children, but i just told paul, "i don't think i can leave that child here." >> a year later, sarah and paul are finally able to bring leyeyo to the u.s. and then adopt him. why'd you feel you had to do more? >> because i could do more. >> the couple opts for private schooling so their son can get the individualized attention he needs. but that takes some serious cash. >> the amount we paid for private school was nothing that we ever had in our plans. >> it was a ridiculous amount of money. >> it probably averaged out for $15,000 a year. >> the couple uses money sarah had inherited after her father had passed away to fund leyeyo's education. but it only goes so far, and as their son reaches the end of high school, with college on the horizon, sarah and paul find themselves running out of money and answers. what do you think that college education is gonna cost you?

>> well, you know, it could be about $50,000 times 4. it's a lot of money to put a kid through college these days. >> like millions of other american parents, paul and sarah start scrambling. they'll need, somehow, to raise more cash. mortgage the b&b? maybe. but what about those puzzling chinese pieces? >> i thought, "well, you know, if they are worth $10,000, that would be a chunk of change for college." >> in 2014, they track down lark mason, the man who appraised the items all those years ago. he's no longer at sotheby's but running his own auction house. >> i sent him pictures in an e-mail, and he was very excited. >> excited because, lark says, a lot's changed since the '90s, when he appraised the screen for that's appropriate to the time frame? >> for that time frame, yes, absolutely. china's economy has grown dramatically from the '90s up to

the present days. there's a lot more people with money, with ability to buy things. >> seems the swelling ranks of 21st century chinese millionaires have shifted the market for chinese art into overdrive. two weeks later, sarah drives down from vermont and brings the artwork to lark's manhattan office. >> he said the headdress might go for a few thousand, and then the little carved piece of jade -- that might get a couple of thousand. >> and that might cover leyeyo's textbooks. but then there's the table screen. as before, lark is most intrigued by it. >> the quality struck me. the workmanship, the design -- all of it was just exactly what you would want to see in an object that would be coming up for sale. >> and now that paul and sarah are serious about selling, it's time lark zeroes in on the screen's past.

exactly when was it made? where? by whom? for whom? the first clue -- its exotic materials, gold, turquoise, coral, white jade. >> all that is something that not a normal person would have. >> so, it comes together, and you know it's special. >> exactly. >> another clue is how many different kinds of craftsmanship it displays. >> the people that were doing the bronze work -- you had the guilders. you had the individuals that were coming up with the different-sized stones here. you're looking at least 7, 8, 9, 10 different individuals involved in this. >> but who would have that kind of money to put materials even for this? >> a very important person. >> a very important person whose identity, lark believes, lies hidden in its cryptic imagery and symbols. the mission -- to crack the

screen's code. that's next. >> here's another quiz question for you. the answer when we return. remember here at ally,

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>> it's "c." the cookies were made famous by a japanese-american immigrant who was the landscape designer of golden gate park's famed japanese tea garden. >> in the fall of 2014, auctioneer lark mason thinks that if he can decipher the imagery and writing on this antique chinese table screen, he can unlock the value of

paul weber's strange inheritance. and now the appraiser suspects it's directly linked to some important figure in chinese history. what's on this side? >> this side depicts the eight horses of wang mu. wang mu was the fifth emperor of the zhou dynasty, who boarded a chariot in search of the peaches of immortality in heaven. >> according to the myth, each of his magical chargers had a special talent. one galloped without touching the ground, while another ran as fast as the sun's shadow. now, wang mu ruled about 1,000 years before christ. lark knows the screen is not that old. but the myth becomes a popular subject for chinese poets and artists and a symbol for the later emperors. but which one? lark hopes the inscription on

the other side holds the answer. his crack research staff soon has a translation of the ancient chinese. what does it say? >> well, the inscription's really interesting, because it specifically mentions qianlong. >> emperor qianlong reigned during most of the 18th century, which is why lark is so excited by his next discovery. >> there's a date mentioned -- "30 years earlier, in 1743, when i commissioned a painting about horses." so that takes us up to 1773 or so. >> smack-dab in the middle of qianlong's reign. >> and so all that ties together here in this one screen. >> it's museum-quality? >> oh, no question. >> really? >> absolutely. no question. >> that hardly surprises the curator of asian art at the metropolitan museum of art in new york city, which has, on display, a number of works commissioned by qianlong.

was he a proponent of the arts? >> he was absolutely a patron of the arts, someone who was very involved in using art as a means of self-expression, as well as to legitimize and maintain his rule. >> like this hand-carved piece of ivory used to hold paintbrushes. they're pretty fancy for putting in paintbrushes. >> it's a pretty fancy one, yes. >> like most pieces commissioned by qianlong, the brush holder tells a story. >> this is about a young scholar who was so gorgeous that, when he went by, women pelted him with flowers. >> the detail is amazing. the number of people that look like they're on a balcony. >> isn't that wonderful? >> qianlong is revered in china today. he is the emperor to whom people look up as an example of the best of good government. >> so anything from this particular dynasty is considered very valuable? >> very valuable. the equivalent for us, as

americans, of owning something that would have been there with george washington. >> wow. >> "wow" is right. >> betting that wealthy chinese buyers will bid high for something that could have sat on qianlong's desk, lark jacks up his price a bit above his 15-grand appraisal in 1995. >> the table screen was now valued at between $60,000 and $90,000. >> six to seven times more than 20 years ago? >> that's right. >> it was more than we make in a year for sure... [ laughs ] ...which, to me, was more than i could ever dream about. >> 90 grand. an elated paul and sarah know that will go a long way to pay their son's college bill. but lark advises them to test the market by first selling one of the other pieces paul's dad received from that long-ago client. the result is positive. >> that jade piece that we

thought would sell for about $1,000 ended up selling for $12,000. >> what?! >> and we were really stunned. >> tough to come up with the estimates in a very strong, upward-trending market. >> so, then it became clear that we got to put this table screen in an auction. >> and then, just like that, the buyers vanish. >> it was listed on the featured items, but nobody bid on it. >> will a family's hopes be dashed... >> nothing happened. >> nothing? no bids? >> there were no bids. "what's going on here?" >> ...or will their prayers be answered? find out next. what's your strange inheritance story? we'd love to tell it. send me an e-mail or go to our website, strangeinheritance.com. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose.

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of chinese artwork to help fund his son's college education. >> it was a question of, you know, how are we gonna come up with the money for him to go to college? >> his rare table screen, once appraised for $15,000, is now valued at up to $90,000, after the appraiser confirms its connection to the revered chinese emperor qianlong. >> he is the emperor of emperors. he's exactly the one one wanted to have commission this object. >> in april 2015, the table screen is offered for sale in a two-week online auction. but despite being a featured piece, the screen is not an instant hit with bidders. >> it was at the top of the list, and nothing happened. >> nothing? no bids? >> there were no bids. i mean, two weeks, anyway, were gone, and we called and said, "you know, what's going on here?" >> on the final day of the auction, with just 30 minutes left on the clock, there is

still no action on the table screen. >> it looked like nobody was gonna bid on it at all. >> they were nervous. >> auctions are horribly nerve-racking, because you're thinking, "my gosh. nobody's interested in this. this is terrible. oh, it's all out the window." >> finally, with just minutes to go, a flurry of bidding. >> there were two bidders, that i saw, that were going back and forth, and it just started climbing and climbing. >> the price jumps from zero to $60,000 in about 5 seconds, well into the appraisal range, then surpasses lark's high estimate. he sends the auction into overtime. it passes 200k. the final bid? $250,000 to a taiwanese collector. >> "you've got to be kidding me." i mean, it was like "monopoly" money. >> what kind of difference will that money make for you, for sarah, and for your son? >> it'll make a big difference. >> i'm really grateful that i'm gonna be able to go to college

and, like, feel very grateful for what my future holds. >> talk about a strange inheritance that ripples around the world. a piece of art crafted in a chinese emperor's workshop somehow ends up in a small vermont town two centuries later. it then travels all the way back to asia, changing the life of a young man from africa along the way. >> my father never knew leyeyo, and that's a little bit of a bittersweet thing. he would have thought there would have been nothing better to spend the money on than to give him an opportunity to extend his education. >> his grandson. >> that's right. i think, for my father, it would have been the most meaningful fee that he ever received. >> the buyer of paul's strange inheritance is a wealthy taiwanese businessman on a mission to track down chinese

artworks around the world, buy them, and bring them home. he says he's thrilled about his newest purchase, both for its immense beauty and its great historical value. i'm jamie colby for "strange inheritance." thanks so much for watching. and remember, you can't take it with you. >> it's one of the largest armies of its kind. >> would you say it was a hobby? or was he obsessed? >> i think that he was obsessed. >> soldiers of fortune -- and a fortune in soldiers. >> do you have any idea what it's worth? >> yes, we know what it's worth. >> can i know what it's worth? >> the man who raised this army was on a mission... >> he was a true historian. he wanted to bring these battles to life. >> but is it a bridge too far for his heirs? >> he left you with a huge responsibility, didn't he? >> it's just too difficult. >> it's kind of interesting that toy soldiers would get their own trust. >> i don't have my own trust,

but they got theirs. [ theme music plays ] ♪ >> i'm jamie colby, and today i'm in new york on the south fork of long island on my way to the beach community of southampton. a viewer wrote to me about her father, whose childhood hobby became his lifelong obsession. he wanted to share his strange collection with the world after he died. his heirs want to honor his wishes, but is the world even interested? ♪ >> my name is linda munn. in 2011, my father, my father, orson, passed away, leaving the family one of the largest collections of its kind, along with the monumental challenge of carrying on his legacy. >> linda has invited me to her

parents' country home. hi, linda. i'm jamie. >> jamie, it is such a pleasure to meet you. >> so great of you to invite me here. you wrote me. you said you had something really strange. >> i have something very special to show you. >> all right. i'm ready. shall we go in? >> come on in. >> yeah. in here? >> yeah, just walk straight ahead. >> what? linda takes me into her dad's war room... >> it's amazing. >> ...where orson spent countless hours over the years on his unique hobby. the room is filled from floor to ceiling with nothing but toy soldiers. thousands strong, the tiny troops stand frozen in time, their miniature faces stoic with expressions of war. this is a lifetime of work, linda. amazing. there's the charge of the light brigade... the battle of cambrai...

napoleon's defeat at waterloo... clashes from the boer war all the way up through world war ii. stare at them long enough, and you can imagine them coming to life. [ gunfire, men yelling ] toy soldiers become a passion for orson munn when he moves from manhattan to long island as a little boy, says his widow, pat. >> he came out here because he has ill health. the doctors felt that he should be in the country. >> orson's chronic ear ailment often keeps him confined in his room. >> that's when he started playing with soldiers on a tray in his bed. >> were they substitutes for friends? >> i think that they were. >> orson iii says his dad kept building his armies through prep school, princeton, and law school. then orson decides, rather than collecting troops, he'll become one. >> he was in the navy during the second world war, and he

actually lied to get in because he was stone deaf in one ear. but he felt it was his obligation. >> after the war, orson returns home, marries pat, starts a family, and launches his career. >> father said, whatever you do, don't go on wall street, but he did anyway, and he was very, very successful. >> the family lives in new york city but spends weekends here in southampton. it's around this time that orson's toy-soldier recruitment begins to ramp up. >> he bought and traded them constantly. >> we had correspondence -- i say "we" -- it's not we -- he -- from all over the world. >> he would go to europe. he'd stop by a soldier store in london that was his favorite, and he would buy them. >> we stayed in a wonderful little hotel in vienna, and naturally, the back door of the hotel was a soldier shop. >> i think he picked it on purpose. >> [ laughs ] on purpose. >> just as he did when he was a

boy, orson plays with his soldiers, painstakingly re-creating the world's most famous battles. >> i think that he could have easily have been a general. he knew more about military history than anyone i ever met. >> orson hand-paints many of the miniature figures himself, spending hours on end adding even more historical detail to his military dioramas. >> he would come home, read his stack of analyst papers, and then go into his painting room. >> every single braid on the uniform, every button is clearly detailed for you. >> right down to the color of the eyeballs of napoleon. >> it's painstaking work. it's so accurate you can see the pain on the faces of some of the soldiers on their way to the ground. it's just incredible to me. >> he was a true historian -- he wanted to bring these battles to life. >> with sand on some shelves

and artificial snow on others, no detail is too small for his handcrafted battle scenes. >> would you say it was a hobby? or was he obsessed? >> i think that he was... obsessed. >> he even makes home videos of his collection. >> we have the battle of bastogne. the snow is talcum powder and they'd been fighting it out. the 101st airborne was not going to surrender. >> over the years, the battle scenes grow to include the charging scottish highlanders, the british fighting the zulus, and much more. >> the allies fighting the germans outside of berlin, the french foreign legion fighting the english in the desert. i mean, there are soldiers that are probably 80 years old. >> orson's is eventually one of -- if not the -- largest toy soldier collection in the country, with over 10,000

figurines. and as orson enters his golden years, he begins to worry about the fate of his beloved troops once he's gone. he has the will, but can his heirs find the way? >> he left you with a huge responsibility, didn't he? >> it's just too difficult. >> coming up...rolling the dice with their strange and valuable inheritance. >> i'm busting your morale by killing all your flag holders. >> and i'm a guest in your home. >> you're the enemy. >> i do need to blow something up on your side. that's next. >> but first, our "strange inheritance" quiz question. in 1645, britain adopted its famous redcoat military uniform. what led to the color choice? is it that red uniforms did not show bloodstains? red dye was cheap? or that red made regiments appear larger? the answer when we return. sic p]

>> so... it's b -- the red dye was cheap. there is no basis for the popular myth that red was favored to hide bloodstains. ♪ >> orson munn spent over 80 years collecting more than 10,000 toy soldiers, miniature figures he uses to meticulously

re-create some of history's famous battles. >> the next group of figures that i have -- i painted them all myself. >> and as orson reaches his 80s, the toy-soldier general hatches a plan to create a permanent base for his troops. >> what he would have liked more than anything is a museum in southampton. he gave 19 years of his life as a village trustee here. >> and his collection is well known in toy-soldier circles. but nobody in town seems interested in erecting a museum to display all this. but in the fall of 2010, a curator from several states away does come knocking. a museum did approach your father, but it wasn't in southampton. >> correct. >> orson receives a visit from the frazier history museum in louisville, kentucky, which offers to take the entire collection and put it on display. orson isn't ready to give up his

men, but he does agree to a lesser donation -- 2,600 so-called flats -- two-dimensional soldiers he has in formation at his manhattan apartment. so, why didn't dad turn over the collection to a museum that showed such enthusiasm? >> because we still had hope that we were gonna be able to get a building here in southampton. >> so, in august 2011, when orson passes away at the age of 86, his family inherits not only his toy soldiers, but the tall order of creating a museum to house them. did he specify in his will what he hoped the family would do with the soldiers that meant so much to him? >> what we did is we actually put them in a trust so they could be given away tax free to a museum. >> it's kind of interesting that toy soldiers would get their own trust. >> [ laughs ] yeah. exactly. right. i don't have my own trust, but they got theirs.

>> these figures were, in their time, 50 cents for a cavalryman. these figures now sell at $250 and infantry at $100. >> with that kind of appreciation, the 10,000 soldiers orson left behind may be worth a small fortune. >> after all, many are not so much toys as tiny sculptures, delicately handcrafted by talented artists. in 1893, an englishman named william britain revolutionized the production of toy soldiers through the method of hollow casting. after the military men are shaped, they are sent to sculptors and painters. >> build up on the metal base buttons, lapels, epaulets, which were then painted to the exact historical regiment. so, extreme detail. >> tara finley is an antique-toy

specialist. the munns call her in to tell them what their strange inheritance is worth. >> i walked into the room on a cold december day, and here before me was an army of thousands, displayed in very realistic dioramas. it was truly amazing. >> and a daunting task to photograph and appraise every last figure. >> there were 37 dioramas and 59 groupings of lead soldiers. it took a good five days. >> in addition to the soldiers orson painted himself, tara identifies thousands of highly sought-after classics, such as these by premier toy-soldier artist roger berdou, pegged at $500 apiece.

so all those little soldiers add up to some big-time value. do you have any idea what it's worth? >> yes, we know what it's worth. >> can i know what it's worth? >> if it were auctioned off in pieces, it's probably worth about $300,000 or $400,000. >> $400,000. but only if they break up the collection and sell it off to hundreds of younger orsons just starting off the hobby, hunting down their own missing pieces, constructing their own dioramas, fighting their own wars. that's the catch. why didn't he sell it during his lifetime? >> i think that if something gives you that much joy, the last thing that ever crossed his mind would be to sell it. >> but given the high appraisal, surely it crosses his heirs' minds, right? are you absolutely opposed to separating this collection and selling it? that's next.

>> here's another quiz question for you. napoleon's infamous defeat during his 1812 invasion of russia was due in part to what stroke of bad luck? the answer when we return.

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figure is different, and it was very difficult to get this set. >> orson munn spent his entire life building a toy army of more than 10,000 soldiers. >> i've shown a zulu warrior wearing a red coat. >> his collection may be worth $400,000, but that never stops him from toying around with what would become their strange inheritance, say his kids, linda and orson iii. >> we used to take the soldiers out and set them up like a real war game. >> a thousand lead soldiers would be lined up on one side against a thousand lead soldiers on the other side. >> i was the only one that ever beat him in a battle. i surprised him with bringing up a cannon to the top of a church and blowing down the main street where he was approaching. >> you're scaring me now. >> [ laughs ] okay, these guys are going to shoot. both barrels. >> today, linda's challenged me to combat on the miniature war

gaming battlefield. who's this guy? >> that's your general. and you got another general here. >> we use dice to determine how many steps the soldiers may take... >> [ laughs ] >> i'm supposed to measure. ...and rulers to measure strides. got it. >> i'm busting your morale by killing all your flag holders. >> and i'm a guest in your home. >> [ laughs ] you're the enemy, not a guest. >> we were getting along so swimmingly. i do need to blow something up on your side. no guts, no glory. >> ready, aim, fire! boom! >> oh, my flags. >> sorry. >> let's get double something. all right! then we're gonna take the other three and shoot... >> in the end, though, i'm no match for the daughter of a mini commander in chief. i can't watch. >> [ laughs ] >> linda's father, orson, dreamed of a museum here in southampton, long island, for

his troops. it's now up to his heirs to make it real. did he leave funds behind for you to accomplish that? or has that been left to your family's responsibility? >> it's actually been left to the family to figure out how to do that. >> linda is dismayed to learn how much it will take to open and maintain a permanent display locally -- $10 million. did you try to raise any money? >> oh, yeah, we did. >> how much did you raise, do you think? >> we raised about $5,000 or $6,000. >> this is a pretty moneyed town. if you can't raise the interest and the money in southampton, where can you? >> i think it's not gonna happen, which is a shame. >> so what about donating the collection to an existing museum here in town? the family tries that, too, but none is interested in displaying 10,000 antique toys. have you gotten a no at every turn? >> pretty much. >> is that upsetting? >> it was and is very upsetting.

>> so, it seems like southampton has spoken. >> it does seem that way, doesn't it? >> are you at a crossroads right now that maybe nobody is as interested in the collection as your family is? will orson's heirs complete their mission? that's next. what's your strange inheritance story? we'd love to hear it. send me an e-mail, or go to our website, strangeinheritance.com. it's a very specific moment, the launch window. we have to be very precise. if we're not ready when the planets are perfectly aligned, that's it. we need really tight temperature controls. engineering, aerodynamics- a split second too long could mean scrapping it all and starting over. propulsion, structural analysis- maple bourbon caramel.

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one, two, - wait, wait. wait - where's tina? doing the hand thing? yep! we are all in for our customers. ally. do it right. [ theme music plays ] >> now back to "strange inheritance." >> the heirs of orson munn can't seem to fulfill his dying wish, a permanent local home for his massive toy-soldier collection. >> but some of orson's troops do receive their marching orders. remember those 2,600 flats orson donated to that museum in louisville, kentucky? the frazier uses these men to carefully re-create the battle of borodino -- the bloodiest clash during napoleon's failed

invasion of russia in 1812. >> they assembled a team of like-minded individuals to himself, and they created this beautiful diorama. >> the team spends months making sure every soldier is in place, and in november 2012, the display debuts to the public. >> we went out for the opening, and we couldn't believe it. >> you have the russian soldiers on horseback, you have wounded french that are trying to retreat off the battlefield. i mean, the wolves are attacking wounded soldiers. even showing that kind of level of detail. >> the family is impressed. in fact, they return to southampton even more resolved to find a nearby museum to house their father's collection. >> until i hear from a museum in this southampton village, we're probably not gonna make any moves quickly to disseminate the collection outside of southampton.

>> i get it, but i have to say, when i think of the munns' strange inheritance story, from the sickly child enthralled with his first toy soldiers to the young man hooked on a collecting to the wealthy money manager's escape into his war room, would it really be so tragic to split all this up piece by piece? i'd let history go ahead and repeat itself. a present once again inspires a young boy. another middle-aged guy indulges his hobby. and a lifelong collector finally gets the piece that completes his world war i diorama. there's a collector out there who has the entire setup except that one toy soldier they're missing. why not split it up and help a ton of other toy-soldier collectors get as much pleasure as your dad did? >> i believe that it would be in the best hands kept as a collection. you can read about a battle, but

when you actually see it played out, you can see in a much more clear way what happened at that battle. when you see it, you have that awed feeling, and it's the mass of them that is awesome. >> what happens if it doesn't work out at all? what happens if no museum is interested? would your dad be looking down on you and your sister and say, "i'm disappointed"? >> i don't think so. i think that he would be very pleased. we certainly have tried. and had it been so easy, i'm sure he could have done it. >> so, for now, the soldiers remain frozen in time, and the battle for orson munn's legacy at a stalemate. we mentioned orson painted most soldiers himself, but actually got some help from his granddaughter caroline. every tuesday afternoon during the school year, they would paint until bedtime.

caroline remembers being as sloppy as a little girl can be with a brush, yet somehow, the next morning, every soldier looked impeccable. go figure. i'm jamie colby for "strange inheritance." thanks so much for watching, and remember, you can't take it with you. [ airplane engine buzzing ] ♪ time steve. here's the man himself, lou dobbs. lou: good evening everybody. i'm lou dobbs. donald trump today calling for an increase in military spending in a speech in philadelphia. the republican nominee warning that america's enemies are now capitalizing on perceptions of american weakness and trump says he is the man to turn it all around. trump also blasted hillary clinton's record as secretary of state saying she and president obama put america in grave danger.

>> sometimes it seems like there wasn't a country in the middle east that hillary clinton didn't want to invade come into being in or tackle. she is trigger-happy and very unstable. whether we like it or not, that's what's going on. lou: i'll be taking on trump's foreign policy with former u.n. ambassador john bolton here tonight and also among my guests house oversight committee member congressman nick mulvaney. we have a lot to talk about including new revelations that the obama administration actually forked over $1.7 billion in foreign currencies to iran around the time that more americans held hostage were released in january. we told the last month that the administration paid iran for that million dollars in cash in foreign currencies but it turns out that was just a down payment.

two other cash payment of accrued interest as the administration called the amount brings the total to $1.7 billion. and the race for president getting even tighter tonight. a brand-new george washington university poll shows clinton in a virtual tie with donald trump, for 18-2440 and trunk closing in on hillary clinton despite being outspent of a margin of 6-1. former medical director at ed roland's pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the "new york post" michael goodwin join me in moments to discuss all of that. our top story tonight tonight, donald trump in a national security speech in philadelphia laid out his proposal for strengthening our military and defeating the nations declared enemies. trump says on becoming commander-in-chief his urgent priority will be to ask congress to lift military spending caps to raise defense spending and seek a plan from his generals to counter the islamic state and

defeat it within his first 30 days in office. trump also blasted hillary clinton and her memory lapses during her fbi interview. >> if she can remember such crucial events and information honestly she is totally unfit to be our commander-in-chief but i have a feeling she did remember and she does know and that also makes her unfit. her conduct is simply disqualifying. she talks about her experience that hillary clinton's only foreign-policy experience ended up in absolute failure. lou: trumps the message resonating with veterans and our military. and on line survey by monkey poll shows trump leading clinton by 19 points. 55%-36% among voters who are currently serving or who have served in the u.s. military.

military support for trump also reflected on the "fox news poll" earlier this month. trump besting clinton among veterans and uphold 53-39%. joining us now former reagan white house political director great america pac strategist ed roland's pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the "new york post" michael goodwin vote "fox news" contributors. it's great to have you both here. michael this is now a two-point race according to the three most recent polls. i mean this is a famous newsman once said tighter than eight --. >> what's remarkable lou is how quickly trumpeted close the gap that was as much as six, eight or 13 in one poll. here we are right after labor day and it looks to be a tied race. there is one analysis out there that says trump hasn't really

gained anything. it's just that she has lost but i think that misses the point. lou: that's a negative narrative being spun by democrats. >> that's right that trumps behavior on the campaign trail has improved remarkably in the last two weeks and i think that is what is causing her to decline. that stories are no longer about trump saying things off the cuff that draw a lot of negative attention. it's about the news flow damaging her. lou: do you agree? in anyway it's not distracting from his own message. >> he's very much on message and it looks very presidential. this is a guy who's used to being a big player in a big television personality and he got distracted by his little tweaks and what have you. he was not an experienced candidate. he's not getting much better. he is a smart team around him. i think this next six-day weeks is going to be very good.

lou: just as an example in listing two donald trump just now in that video and audio that we brought you, he had the tech needs to lower his voice and talk about the fact that she probably did know and that also makes her unfit. he would never have dropped his voice in that way. he is really talking to the american people now and obviously with impact. >> he is providing content. i believe the immigration speech which got a lot of negative attention that i think was actually quite good. he had a 10-point plan which is something all candidates do but when he does it it's not typical for him so i think he has come a long way in terms of substance and it's making a difference. lou: honestly he has come a long way. she has i think very demonstrably fallen a long way. i mean these coughing fits,

trying to dismiss them as absolutely relevant and the mainstream medium -- media won't even hold her accountable for her own health records. the american people are not buying into this nonsense that the clinton cartel is. >> around mrs. clinton. >> i have to tell you she's the worst candidate i've seen on the democratic side in a long time since dukakis and dukakis had a big lead regular member bush got them at the at the conventions of my senses she is not performing well and if you listen to what she is saying it's not meaningful. i think to a certain extent she is not exciting anybody and he basically is. lou: what's interesting about this bringing the press supporter new larger aircraft to accommodate the media, the questions are how is everything and love loveland? i mean how do you deal with the conspiracy discussion about what's causing you to go into a

form in a coughing fit quite this is the national media right now that's embarrassing itself. >> you know before she started doing this there was a clock as to how long she had a press conference, 272 days. this is now being counted. lou: by the way the count goes on. >> the mainstream media was not pushing her to have a press conference so much as others because they have this access. lou: everyone is tired of being lied to don't you think wax. >> they get their questions answered by somebody off the record. lou: they get their questions answered? there is no answer. at every turn. you write a column, three days a week which by the way i read and i love the column but i have to tell you other folks writing

right now about her are acting as if she's a serious candidate giving serious answers to serious questions for the american people. it's nonsense. we don't know anything about what's going on that candidate. do you agree? >> two years ago she was a knighted by the mainstream media and obviously every day since then every single day she has stumbled to move forward and they are now looking into the abyss and are very concerned and very worried. they have run a great campaign. she's a lousy candidate. lou: while i would only argue about the campaign part. i will defer to you on the running of the campaign but i mean to have all of this, i mean she is carrying every piece of baggage behind her automobile. smoke is pouring out of the thing and you know it's about to run out of gas and you don't know where it's headed. >> it goes over by -- all the way back to 2008.

it was clear she had no real rationale. here we are in 2016. she is inevitable again in here we are after labor day and she still does not have a rationale. she still doesn't have a reason why she should be president. lou: and that's showing up in the polls. what do you think, is that clear as daylight? >> every day the state polls follow the national polls by a week to 10 days. lou: we didn't even get to the battleground states but things are tightening up there as well and dramatically so. michael michael goodwin, good to see land at rollins thank you very much. we are coming right back to much more to take up here. stay with us. donald trump ups the pressure on clinton as she continues to stonewall congress and the american people. >> these e-mail records were destroyed after she received a subpoena. remember that word. after, after she received a

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lou: fbi director james comey today defended his decision not to prosecute or recommend prosecution of hillary clinton over her e-mail scandals. comey sent a letter to employees where he said in part quote at the end of the day the case itself was not a cliffhanger despite all the chest beating by people no longer in government. there really wasn't a prosecutable case. comey also said more documents from the agency's investigation of clinton will be forthcoming. joining me now congressman nick mulvaney a member of the house oversight and government reform committee as well as the financial services committee to congressman, great to have you with us and it looks to me like the chest beating is being done by james comey trying to defend the decision that is unpopular

and many say utterly wrong. >> that is just bizarre. keep in mind would come he did. he took a law which especially you have to do four things to be guilty of breaking the law. you actually have to have specific intent and it's not written in the law but it's hard to imagine how congress could change the law to actually get at what hillary clinton did and it ripped away -- i'm very disappointed in fbi director comey. lou: to me i would love to hear an explanation of the difference between gross negligence which is in the law and which would have been chargeable and his invention, his concoction is extremely careless. what would be the intellectual divide there? >> in the first year of law school there wasn't any and every more being taught that extreme carelessness was

disregard. again, very strange. it does leave everyone at the distinct impression that certain people get treated differently under the law. if you are rich and powerful and the secretary of state to get treated one way and if you are some guy or gal on the street you get treated another way. no reasonable prosecutor would bring the case. i know a lot of reasonable prosecutors. trey gowdy is one of them and their many in congress. again just a sad history. lou: the contrast between servicemembers and the way they have been treated by this administration and the specific issue is in stark contrast to the way they put their warm loving arms around mrs. clinton in her moment. do you believe james comey is crooked? >> absolutely not. that's what's so frustrating to me as someone who has spent a lot of time in the hearing.

seems like a very honest upright and straightforward guy. that is his reputation. there are men and women in congress who have worked with him and this guy is a straight shooter. that's why the end result here is so confounding. it doesn't seem to match what the facts. lou: congressman how do we explain the director of the fbi turns to the state department and throws it at them and says okay you guys decide whether you want us to prosecute or not. i don't see anywhere in my reading of the potential charges and the basis for it. >> fast-forward to what's going to happen tomorrow. we are going to have a hearing here tomorrow with the folks that maintained that e-mail server and wiped it clean after balloting they got a subpoena and it works to preserve evidence. they then got a phonecall from hillary clinton's lawyers and miraculous way a couple of days later wiped the server claim. we are going to have this hearing tomorrow but in the back

of our minds we are wonding what could we possibly show that would get somebody charge of something in this world where director comey starts making it up on his own. that's what's so frustrating to us. we will have the hearing tomorrow and we will continue to shine light on it but we are concerned as everybody else that the law is not being legally applied here. lou: i want to touch on this because so much is being made now in discussing the integrity of our electoral system and particularly their number of democrats who seem to be far more concerned about the russians carrying out a cyber attack against our electoral system than they are in the integrity of the vote itself, that is making certain that everyone is indeed a registered and qualified voter. what in the world is going on with the idea that the office of personnel management, what was that 30 million former and

present federal employees names and files breached that could have been prevented? >> the answer to your question what is going on is politics. many democrats seem more concerned about the russians possibly getting involved in election process than they are concerned about hackers actually getting our information on the office of verse no management rated to go deeper than that there are risks that all sorts of federal agencies right now. the department of education keeps hundreds of millions of records. that's not an exaggeration. they include bank records and they are using technology from 1980s. where's the outrage from my democratic colleagues on that material that they get so on up and politics that they can't focus on anything else could. lou: congressman nick mulvaney thanks for being with us. breaking news ryan lochte and three other american swimmers olympic swimmers have reportedly been suspended for lying about being held at gunpoint in rio de

janeiro. according to "usa today" lochte's suspension will be 10 months long. it's expected to be longer than the other three swimmers penalties and while we are on sports tiger woods announcing he's returning to competition. the golfer today saying he will be participating in the safeway tournaments in napa california next month. and that's sports to the moment. but sure to vote in our poll, do you trust the fbi is more or less after the document dump and decision not to charge hillary clinton. we would like to hear from you. cast your vote on twitter @lou dobbs follow me on twitter @lou dobbs and like me on facebook follow me on instagram. there it is "lou dobbs tonight." links to everything found @lou dobbs.com. please roll the video. three lucky fishermen treated to an amazing sight off the coast of brazil. a pod of dolphins swimming alongside them below the boat. some 30 dolphins swimming with

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lou: we have never had a presidential election quite like this one. a few thoughts now on this presidential race is getting closer by the day. the race between trump and clinton has narrowed dramatically over the past month mrs. clinton held a double-digit lead into national polls at the beginning of last month. she now holds a three-point lead over trump in a head-to-head

race, shrinking to point lead in a four-way race according to realclearpolitics average. the latest "cnn" poll were see poll shows a nominee should have solid support from their bases now and about 90% each. remember when that was not going to be possible for donald trump? well things have changed and they keep changing. trum winning among white voters, men and older voters and those without college degrees and has a 20-point advantage among independents. this is clinton meanwhile leads among women, nonwhite voters, college grads and younger voters that their race is tightening by the day despite her barrage of attacks against him. a new analysis shows mrs. clinton dominating on attack ad spending by a 6-1 margin over trump. 6-1. clinton has now spent more than $81 million on those ads in the general election compared to trump's 13 million and when you factor in spending from super pacs, clinton and her supporters outspending trump by

a 5-1 margin. to what effect though? despite vicious attack ads the sheer power of her ad spending there has been almost no impact on trump at all. in fact he has managed to pull within three points of her, to point in the three most recent polls. trump was impervious to attack at when battling as many as 16 opponents in the primary campaign season. some political "capitol update" stop the result would be different in his head-to-head general election race. they are wrong again. clinton's attack ads have been changed trumps trajectory at all that she will keep trying, you can count on that. she has lots of money to spend and she headlines 37 fund-raisers last month. we are sure that she has plenty of ammunition for what is now an all-out battle that will be fought out over the next two months. we have a large number of voters still undecided in some states.

that number is as high as 20%. trump has in my opinion significant at bandages. trump outperformed by his significant margin, is polling in the second half of the primary election season so there is that while hillary may argue she is running for a third obama term she obama term she is in the minds of many democratic voters doing just that and a campaign should be deeply troubled that her poll performance to this point doesn't validate voter support for them, third term. while clinton and trump have their detractors certainly and obstacles, trump has some momentum and poll direction and should act three. independents are breaking for trump by a huge margin, as much as 20%. at least anecdotally he is making a persuasive case for himself among for the first-time minority voters and finally it appears the republican establishment and republican elites are beginning to come to their senses. trump's final advantage would be

an energized organize focus republican party network turning out voters in favor of their nominee on november 8. with that, trump the republican party in this country in my opinion would be the big winners. our quotation of the evening, this one from author and columnist william bond who said, a citizen of america will cross the ocean to fight for democracy but won't cross the street to vote in a national election. maybe this year we will all be a little different at maybe it's time we tried to cross the streets instead of oceans. we are coming right back. stay with us. donald trump today exposing clinton's failures as president obama secretary of state. >> unlike my opponent my foreign policy will emphasize diplomacy, not destruction. hillary clinton's legacy in iraq , libya, syria has produced only turmoil and suffering and

death. lou: how will a president trump picks it? will discuss that with matt slap and tammy bruce here next an have you ever wanted to go cliff diving? tonight you get your chance. next, at least the fear part and

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lou: wikileaks founder julian assange accusing hillary clinton of lying when she told the f.b.i. she didn't know what the classified markings on her email means. he says every one rsh in government knows it and for classified confidential. he promises there will be a september surprise of damaging clinton emails. >> it will be reasonably soon. we might put out some teasers. i don't want to prop is anything because we have to see how the formatting goes. but we could put out teasers next week or the week after. matt schlapp, and tammy bruce, that's the next week or two, tammy.

teases from assange. is hoik -- well, i know one thing. nancy pelosi thinks the republicans shouldn't be using any of that material, what do you think? >> of course not. the fact that she is afraid of it means it' important stuff. wikileaks, they deliver, they don't make things up. they are careful to when they say what they have and when they will deliver what they have. we have seen they have delivered some important things. this comment from him is an indication -- lou: do you think he will back it up? >> he will. and the clinton team knows they are probably in even bigger trouble. lou: julian assange, the republicans are boosting him and the democrats are fearful of him right now. can we embrace the idea that the public has a right to know and

the devil take the hind most? i don't care who it's on. if it needs to be out there for the public i'm delighted it's happening. >> what does she have to hide. she deleted thousands and thousands of emails. shy stonewalled. it took five congressional investigation before we found out she had the server in her home. what they lied and object few ad every inch of the way. what do she do? she attacks the man overseas doing the disclosures for hillary. i don't condone everything he does. but why shouldn't the american voter see these things? >> there is no reason. and the idea that pelosi as she implores paul ryan not to use document that are the result of

cyber attacks, that to me is laughable. she has been part of this cartel of corruption i call the clintons for decades. and it's just utter nonsense. tammy, your thought right now. this race tightened to a degree that hope springs for most republicans. what do you make of it? >> everybody should who is a republican and cares about the future of the country should be excited about this. hillary clinton has spent over $100 million on ads for herself and against donald trump. the media and the establishment machines are for her and she can't get away from donald trump, even with some of his own unforced error. it shows how baked in the attitude of the american people is when they look at a chance for something different and a complete rejection of the establishment as it stands. it's finally the indictment of hillary clinton that we have

been waiting for, and i think we'll see this continue. we have 60 days? it will be very exciting. lou: let's get to that issue. the issue is this. the republican establishment, matt, there are signs and reports that some of the never trumpers are starting to realize he might win this damn thing and they might ought to shovel money on the table toward him and his candidacy. is paul ryan on board? is mitch mcconnell on board or are they still playing the pools? >> my approach on ryan and senator mcconnell and others is their constituency or republican members in their conferences, i talked to the people looking and tracking polls in the contests house races, and they look very good. the house is in very good shape, and they are starting to feel

confident they will hold on to majority in the house which eases their concerns. lou: i realize these are states men and not interested in politics. but the reality is they are starting to understand that as if they can carry the label in a hypothetical discussion like this, they are going to have to follow their constituents toward donald trump even though they don't have the guts or the sense to do so. >> i think they are hearing from grassroots regular old americans across the country who are saying to them, we voted for him in the republican primaries. we want an outsider. the things you don't like about him are the things we like about him. when elected officials in washington on the republican side have trouble with trump it's because trump is taking on what they have done, and it will be good for the country. lou: that should be the priority. unfortunately, it isn't for everyone.

matt, great to have you here. matt schlapp, tammy, right here in studio. roll the video, pretty please. watch as this thrill seeker -- we are talking about jumping off -- jumping off the cliff -- who tax! he misses that -- whoa! he misses that october 1 inches, 2 inches. that's in laguna beach, california. he let out a scream when he realized he was falling toward the jagged rocked. afterwards he said he would not try that anytime soon. donald trump says there is one positive outcome from hillary clinton's email scandal.

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lou: the u.k. taking a page from donald trump. the british minister of state for immigration announcing plans to build a big new wall in a border port in france, calais to prevent immigrants in nearby camps from sneaking through the tunnel. it's not quite as big as trump's 35-foot wall. at least the minimum, if you will, the floor on at wall is 35 feet high. joining me now john bolton,

former united nations ambassador. the british after being so rude to donald trump, now are stealing his ideas. >> well, they face -- it's ironic, this cal air, s entry -- this calais entry point has attracted thousands of people who want to get through the channel. they have had riots and terrorist threats it's something happening all over europe. they see the impact of these people coming in. it's amazing the political effect it's had. lou: for the british to be emulating donald trump, this looks like the resumption of a special relationship if he's elected. let's turn to russia. current problems we face as a nation. a russian fighter taking on one of our p.s. surveillance and spy

planes over the black sea within 10 feet. and what happened? nothing. how long can this nonsense go on without a mistake? >> we are right at the point of mistake. 10 feet away with those kinds of bleans that kind of speed is see row feet away it calls to minds the sort of things they did to our ships in the baltic sea a few months ago and resuming flights of strategic bombers near our coast. putin will continue to do this as long as he thinks he can get away with it. he certainly got a free pass until january 20 of next year. it's not just the russian problem. it's around the world. everybody saw what china did to obama to make him come out of the belly of the plane instead

of the main entrance with it other leaders did. lou: as a national security expert, former member of the state department, ambassador to the united nations, what leader in his right mind or her right mind takes an insult like that and just tramples on down out of the belly of air force one? why would you put up with this? >> this is no drama, obama. he did stands up to the president of the philippines who called him an s.o.b. and agreed not to have a meeting with him. the real problem is not the insult and lack of response. the real problem is china, russia and, and o on on the of d others will already perceived the weakness and taken advantage of it. he has a bull's-eye sign on his

back and "kick me" sign and they are willing to oblige. lou report russians have crimea. the chinese continue to build their islands in the south china sea. they continue to build out their missile capabilities. this is happening and it's without effect. it's a lot more than just an insult with having him trundle down the steps of the aircraft. >> the positions of strength we created over decades, political and economic strength are eroding, and the struck tiewrts of deterrence that stopped the russians and chinese from thinking about this kind of thing are disappearing. you don't hear anything about this from hillary clinton. she'll be barack obama's third term and i think these leaders

know that already. lou: on wall street stocks were mixed. the nasdaq closing at a new record high on those 8 points. a reminds tore listen to my reports three times a day on the salem radio network. apple unveiled the iphone 7 featuring no ear phone jack. apple as a result unveiling new wireless earbuds. the water resistant phone features a two-camera system. apple begins taking orders starting this friday and also a new second i watch. you have next. pastor jarrell scott says it's a

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poll we asked you, is it irresponsible of the national liberal media to ignore hillary clinton's obvious hailtd l health issues. 93% say yes, it's irresponsible. senior pastor of the new spirit revival center, pastor darrell scott. great to have you with us. lot of people are reacting to donald trump's trip to detroit. the democrats are having a hissy fit. they are upset. it's like there is a fence you don't cross if you are a republican candidate for president, and he has mightily upset democrats, especially one hillary clinton. what do you make of it? >> they are upset about it because they are making inroads in the african-american community. he went to my friend wayne t. jackson's church. we had a wonderful time. so hillary wants to reach back

into the past and pull the birther issue out so they can play it. they are trying to make birther issue a racial issue. and it was never a racial issue, it was political. they are trying to ply on the emotions of black people. but we had a great time in detroit and there are a lot of people who changed their mind about donald trump just off that one meeting. they say he's not the way i thought he was, the way the media depicts him to be. lou: it's a terrible to see when people are shoulder to shoulder that people aren't cartoon cutouts of one another. looking at the reading i do every day. one reporter was having a fit about a black pastor who he claimed was opening his church

to a quote-unquote bigot, referring to trump. this is nasty stuff. you know, what do you think? >> they play the race card on trump all the time because that's all they have. trump communicates and connects with african-americans. we can relate to his realness, his plain spokenness. i like this swag. he's cool. they play that race card. one thing about the race card, when you play it. they played the race card as a trump card because when you refute the racial allegations they can accuse you of being a racist for revealing it. but there are a lot of supporters of donald trump, there is an under grounds trump support movement by blacks that fear the backlash from our constituents and our families. but i know of a ton of leaders and people who will support him. i coined the term i want to continue produce on the lou

dobbs show to america. there is a term for the black supporters of trump who don't want to let everybody know. the term is right now they are incognegro. they prefer to remain incognegro. they will support trump.ting booth all by themselves with nobody look over their shoulder to critique or judge them for the choice they make, they are going to vote for donald trump a lot. lou: i feel about the vote, the african-american vote, the black vote in this country that's taken for granted by the republican party, working men and women who are union members. their management is going one direction supporting illegal immigration.

and they are going to be voting for trump. just as they voted for reagan. i think it's a wonderful thing to see. >> i do, too. lou: pastor, it's great to see you. >> thanks for having me. i'm looking forward to coming back again and again. i'm trying to invite myself back. time steve. here's the man himself, lou dobbs. lou: good evening everybody. i'm lou dobbs. donald trump today calling for an increase in military spending in a speech in philadelphia. the republican nominee warning that america's enemies are now capitalizing on perceptions of american weakness and trump says he is the man to turn it all around. trump also blasted hillary clinton's record as secretary of state saying she and president obama put america in grave danger.

>> sometimes it seems like there sn't a country in the middle east that hillary clinton didn't want to invade come into being in or tackle. she is trigger-happy and very unstable. whether we like it or not, that's what's going on. lou: i'll be taking on trump's foreign policy with former u.n. ambassador john bolton here tonight and also among my guests house oversight committee member congressman nick mulvaney. we have a lot to talk about including new revelations that the obama administration actually forked over $1.7 billion in foreign currencies to iran around the time that more americans held hostage were released in january. we told the last month that the administration paid iran for that million dollars in cash in foreign currencies but it turns out that was just a down payment.

two other cash payment of accrued interest as the administration called the amount brings the total to $1.7 billion. and the race for president getting even tighteronight. a brand-new george washington university poll shows clinton in a virtual tie with donald trump, for 18-2440 and trunk closing in on hillary clinton despite being outspent of a margin of 6-1. former medical director at ed roland's pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the "new york post" michael goodwin join me in moments to discuss all of that. our top story tonight tonight, donald trump in a national security speech in philadelphia laid out his proposal for strengthening our military and defeating the nations declared enemies. trump says on becoming commander-in-chief his urgent priority will be to ask congress to lift military spending caps to raise defense spending and seek a plan from his generals to counter the islamic state and

defeat it within his first 30 days in office. trump also blasted hillary clinton and her memory lapses during her fbi interview. >> if she can remember such crucial events and information honestly she is totally unfit to be our commander-in-chief but i have a feeling she did remember and she does know and that also makes her unfit. her conduct is simply disqualifying. she talks about her experience that hillary clinton's only foreign-policy experience ended up in absolute failure. lou: trumps the message resonating with veterans and our military. and on line survey by monkey poll shows trump leading clinton by 19 points. 55%-36% among voters who are currently serving or who have served in the u.s. military.

military support for trump also reflected on the "fox news poll" earlier this month. trump besting clinton among veterans and uphold 53-39%. joining us now former reagan white house political director great america pac strategist ed roland's pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the "new york post" michael goodwin vote "fox news" contributors. it's great to have you both here. michael this is now a two-point race according to the three most recent polls. i mean this is a famous newsman once said tighter than eight --. >> what's remarkable lou is how quickly trumpeted close the gap that was as much as six, eight or 13 in one poll. here we are right after labor day and it looks to be a tied race. there is one analysis out there that says trump hasn't really

gained anything. it's just that she has lost but i think that misses the point. lou: that's a negative narrative being spun by democrats. >> that's right that trumps behavior on the campaign trail has improved remarkably in the last two weeks and i think that is what is causing her to decline. that stories are no longer about trump saying things off the cuff that draw a lot of negative attention. it's about the news flow damaging her. lou: do you agree? in anyway it's not distracting from his own message. >> he's very much on message and it looks very presidential. this is a guy who's used to being a big player in a big television personality and he got distracted by his little tweaks and what have you. he was not an experienced candidate. he's not getting much better. he is a smart team around him. i think this next six-day weeks is going to be very good.

lou: just as an example in listing two donald trump just now in that video and audio that we brought you, he had the tech needs to lower his voice and talk about the fact that she probably did know and that also makes her unfit. he would never have dropped his voice in that way. he is really talking to the american people now and obviously with impact. >> he is providing content. i believe the immigration speech which got a lot of negative attention that i think was actually quite good. he had a 10-point plan which is something all candidates do but when he does it it's not typical for him so i think he has come a long way in terms of substance and it's making a difference. lou: honestly he has come a long way. she has i think very demonstrably fallen a long way. i mean these coughing fits,

trying to dismiss them as absolutely relevant and the mainstream medium -- media won't even hold her accountable for her own health records. the american people are not buying into this nonsense that the clinton cartel is. >> around mrs. clinton. >> i have to tell you she's the worst candidate i've seen on the democratic side in a long time since dukakis and dukakis had a big lead regular member bush got them at the at the conventions of my senses she is not performing well and if you listen to what she is saying it's not meaningful. i think to a certain extent she is not exciting anybody and he basically is. lou: what's interesting about this bringing the press supporter new larger aircraft to accommodate the media, the questions are how is everything and love loveland? i mean how do you deal with the conspiracy discussion about what's causing you to go into a

form in a coughing fit quite this is the national media right now that's embarrassing itself. >> you know before she started doing this there was a clock as to how long she had a press conference, 272 days. this is now being counted. lou: by the way the count goes on. >> the mainstream media was not pushing her to have a press conference so much as others because they have this access. lou: everyone is tired of being lied to don't you think wax. >> they get their questions answered by somebody off the record. lou: they get their questions answered? there is no answer. at every turn. you write a column, three days a week which by the way i read and i love the column but i have to tell you other folks writing

right now about her are acting as if she's a serious candidate giving serious answers to serious questions for the american people. it's nonsense. we don't know anything about what's going on that candidate. do you agree? >> two years ago she was a knighted by the mainstream media and obviously every day since then every single day she has stumbled to move forward and they are now looking into the abyss and are very concerned and very worried. they have run a great campaign. she's a lousy candidate. lou: while i would only argue about the campaign part. i will defer to you on the running of the campaign but i mean to have all of this, i mean she is carrying every piece of baggage behind her automobile. smoke is pouring out of the thing and you know it's about to run out of gas and you don't know where it's headed. >> it goes over by -- all the way back to 2008.

it was clear she had no real rationale. here we are in 2016. she is inevitable again in here we are after labor day and she still does not have a rationale. she still doesn't have a reason why she should be president. lou: and that's showing up in the polls. what do you think, is that clear as daylight? >> every day the state polls follow the national polls by a week to 10 days. lou: we didn't even get to the battleground states but things are tightening up there as well and dramatically so. michael michael goodwin, good to see land at rollins thank you very much. we are coming right back to much more to take up here. stay with us. donald trump ups the pressure on clinton as she continues to stonewall congress and the american people. >> these e-mail records were destroyed after she received a subpoena. remember that word. after, after she received a

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lou: fbi director james comey today defended his decision not to prosecute or recommend prosecution of hillary clinton over her e-mail scandals. comey sent a letter to employees where he said in part quote at the end of the day the case itself was not a cliffhanger despite all the chest beating by people no longer in government. there really wasn't a prosecutable case. comey also said more documents from the agency's investigation of clinton will be forthcoming. joining me now congressman nick mulvaney a member of the house oversight and government reform committee as well as the financial services committee to congressman, great to have you with us and it looks to me like the chest beating is being done by james comey trying to defend the decision that is unpopular

and many say utterly wrong. >> that is just bizarre. keep in mind would come he did. he took a law which especially you have to do four things to be guilty of breaking the law. you actually have to have specific intent and it's not written in the law but it's hard to imagine how congress could change the law to actually get at what hillary clinton did and it ripped away -- i'm very disappointed in fbi director comey. lou: to me i would love to hear an explanation of the difference between gross negligence which is in the law and which would have been chargeable and his invention, his concoction is extremely careless. what would be the intellectual divide there? >> in the first year of law school there wasn't any and every more being taught that extreme carelessness was

disregard. again, very strange. it does leave everyone at the distinct impression that certain people get treated differently under the law. if you are rich and powerful and the secretary of state to get treated one way and if you are some guy or gal on the street you get treated another way. no reasonable prosecutor would bring the case. i know a lot of reasonable prosecutors. trey gowdy is one of them and their many in congress. again just a sad history. lou: the contrast between servicemembers and the way they have been treated by this administration and the specific issue is in stark contrast to the way they put their warm loving arms around mrs. clinton in her moment. do you believe james comey is crooked? >> absolutely not. that's what's so frustrating to me as someone who has spent a lot of time in the hearing.

seems like a very honest upright and straightforward guy. that is his reputation. there are men and women in congress who have worked with him and this guy is a straight shooter. that's why the end result here is so confounding. it doesn't seem to match what the facts. lou: congressman how do we explain the director of the fbi turns to the state department and throws it at them and says okay you guys decide whether you want us to prosecute or not. i don't see anywhere in my reading of the potential charges and the basis for it. >> fast-forward to what's going to happen tomorrow. we are going to have a hearing here tomorrow with the folks that maintained that e-mail server and wiped it clean after balloting they got a subpoena and it works to preserve evidence. they then got a phonecall from hillary clinton's lawyers and miraculous way a couple of days later wiped the server claim. we are going to have this hearing tomorrow but in the back

of our minds we are wondering what could we possibly show that would get somebody charge of something in this world where director comey starts making it up on his own. that's what's so frustrating to us. we will have the hearing tomorrow and we will continue to shine light on it but we are concerned as everybody else that the law is not being legally applied here. lou: i want to touch on this because so much is being made now in discussing the integrity of our electoral system and particularly their number of democrats who seem to be far more concerned about the russians carrying out a cyber attack against our electoral system than they are in the integrity of the vote itself, that is making certain that everyone is indeed a registered and qualified voter. what in the world is going on with the idea that the office of personnel management, what was that 30 million former and

present federal employees names and files breached that could have been prevented? >> the answer to your question what is going on is politics. many democrats seem more concerned about the russians possibly getting involved in election process than they are concerned about hackers actually getting our information on the office of verse no management rated to go deeper than that there are risks that all sorts of federal agencies right now. the department of education keeps hundreds of millions of records. that's not an exaggeration. they include bank records and they are using technology from 1980s. where's the outrage from my democratic colleagues on that material that they get so on up and politics that they can't focus on anything else could. lou: congressman nick mulvaney thanks for being with us. breaking news ryan lochte and three other american swimmers olympic swimmers have reportedly been suspended for lying about being held at gunpoint in rio de

janeiro. according to "usa today" lochte's suspension will be 10 months long. it's expected to be longer than the other three swimmers penalties and while we are on sports tiger woods announcing he's returning to competition. the golfer today saying he will be participating in the safeway tournaments in napa california next month. and that's sports to the moment. but sure to vote in our poll, do you trust the fbi is more or less after the document dump and decision not to charge hillary clinton. we would like to hear from you. cast your vote on twitter @lou dobbs follow me on twitter @lou dobbs and like me on facebook follow me on instagram. there it is "lou dobbs tonight." links to everything found @lou dobbs.com. please roll the video. three lucky fishermen treated to an amazing sight off the coast of brazil. a pod of dolphins swimming alongside them below the boat. some 30 dolphins swimming with

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lou: we have never had a presidential election quite like this one. a few thoughts now on this presidential race is getting closer by the day. the race between trump and clinton has narrowed dramatically over the past month mrs. clinton held a double-digit lead into national polls at the beginning of last month. she now holds a three-point lead over trump in a head-to-head

race, shrinking to point lead in a four-way race according to realclearpolitics average. the latest "cnn" poll were see poll shows a nominee should have solid support from their bases now and about 90% each. remember when that was not going to be possible for donald trump? well things have changed and they keep changing. trump winning among white voters, men and older voters and those without college degrees and has a 20-point advantage among independents. this is clinton meanwhile leads among women, nonwhite voters, college grads and younger voters that their race is tightening by the day despite her barrage of attacks against him. a new analysis shows mrs. clinton dominating on attack ad spending by a 6-1 margin over trump. 6-1. clinton has now spent more than $81 million on those ads in the general election compared to trump's 13 million and when you factor in spending from super pacs, clinton and her supporters outspending trump by

a 5-1 margin. to what effect though? despite vicious attack ads the sheer power of her ad spending there has been almost no impact on trump at all. in fact he has managed to pull within three points of her, to point in the three most recent polls. trump was impervious to attack at when battling as many as 16 opponents in the primary campaign season. some political "capitol update" stop the result would be different in his head-to-head general election race. they are wrong again. clinton's attack ads have been changed trumps trajectory at all that she will keep trying, you can count on that. she has lots of money to spend and she headlines 37 fund-raisers last month. we are sure that she has plenty of ammunition for what is now an all-out battle that will be fought out over the next two months. we have a large number of voters still undecided in some states.

that number is as high as 20%. trump has in my opinion significant at bandages. trump outperformed by his significant margin, is polling in the second half of the primary election season so there is that while hillary may argue she is running for a third obama term she obama term she is in the minds of many democratic voters doing just that and a campaign should be deeply troubled that her poll performance to this point doesn't validate voter support for them, third term. while clinton and trump have their detractors certainly and obstacles, trump has some momentum and poll direction and should act three. independents are breaking for trump by a huge margin, as much as 20%. at least anecdotally he is making a persuasive case for himself among for the first-time minority voters and finally it appears the republican establishment and republican elites are beginning to come to their senses. trump's final advantage would be

an energized organize focus republican party network turning out voters in favor of their nominee on november 8. with that, trump the republican party in this country in my opinion would be the big winners. our quotation of the evening, this one from author and columnist william bond who said, a citizen of america will cross the ocean to fight for democracy but won't cross the street to vote in a national election. maybe this year we will all be a little different at maybe it's time we tried to cross the streets instead of oceans. we are coming right back. stay with us. donald trump today exposing clinton's failures as president obama secretary of state. >> unlike my opponent my foreign policy will emphasize diplomacy, not destruction. hillary clinton's legacy in iraq , libya, syria has produced only turmoil and suffering and

death. lou: how will a president trump picks it? will discuss that with matt slap and tammy bruce here next an have you ever wanted to go cliff diving? tonight you get your chance. tonight you get your chance. next, at least the fear part and

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lou: wikileaks founder julian assange accusing hillary clinton of lying when she told the f.b.i. she didn't know what the classified markings on her email means. he says every one rsh in government knows it and for classified confidential. he promises there will be a september surprise of damaging clinton emails. >> it will be reasonably soon. we might put out some teasers. i don't want to prop is anything because we have to see how the formatting goes. but we could put out teasers next week or the week after. matt schlapp, and tammy bruce, that's the next week or two, tammy. teases from assange.

is hoik -- well, i know one thing. nancy pelosi thinks the republicans shouldn't be using any of that material, what do you think? >> of course not. the fact that she is afraid of it means it' important stuff. wikileaks, they deliver, they don't make things up. they are careful to when they say what they have and when they will deliver what they have. we have seen they have delivered some important things. this comment from him is an indication -- lou: do you think he will back it up? >> he will. and the clinton team knows they are probably in even bigger trouble. lou: julian assange, the republicans are boosting him and the democrats are fearful of him right now. can we embrace the idea that the public has a right to know and the devil take the hind most?

i don't care who it's on. if it needs to be out there for the public i'm delighted it's happening. >> what does she have to hide. she deleted thousands and thousands of emails. shy stonewalled. it took five congressional investigation before we found out she had the server in her home. what they lied and object few ad every inch of the way. what do she do? she attacks the man overseas doing the disclosures for hillary. i don't condone everything he does. but why shouldn't the american voter see these things? >> there is no reason. and the idea that pelosi as she implores paul ryan not to use document that are the result of cyber attacks, that to me is laughable.

she has been part of this cartel of corruption i call the clintons for decades. and it's just utter nonsense. tammy, your thought right now. this race tightened to a degree that hope springs for most republicans. what do you make of it? >> everybody should who is a republican and cares about the future of the country should be excited about this. hillary clinton has spent over $100 million on ads for herself and against donald trump. the media and the establishment machines are for her and she can't get away from donald trump, even with some of his own unforced error. it shows how baked in the attitude of the american people is when they look at a chance for something different and a complete rejection of the establishment as it stands. it's finally the indictment of hillary clinton that we have been waiting for, and i think

we'll see this continue. we have 60 days? it will be very exciting. lou: let's get to that issue. the issue is this. the republican establishment, matt, there are signs and reports that some of the never trumpers are starting to realize he might win this damn thing and they might ought to shovel money on the table toward him and his candidacy. is paul ryan on board? is mitch mcconnell on board or are they still playing the pools? >> my approach on ryan and senator mcconnell and others is their constituency or republican members in their conferences, i talked to the people looking and tracking polls in the contests house races, and they look very good. the house is in very good shape, and they are starting to feel confident they will hold on to majority in the house which

eases their concerns. lou: i realize these are states men and not interested in politics. but the reality is they are starting to understand that as if they can carry the label in a hypothetical discussion like this, they are going to have to follow their constituents toward donald trump even though they don't have the guts or the sense to do so. >> i think they are hearing from grassroots regular old americans across the country who are saying to them, we voted for him in the republican primaries. we want an outsider. the things you don't like about him are the things we like about him. when elected officials in washington on the republican side have trouble with trump it's because trump is taking on what they have done, and it will be good for the country. lou: that should be the priority. unfortunately, it isn't for everyone. matt, great to have you here.

matt schlapp, tammy, right here in studio. roll the video, pretty please. watch as this thrill seeker -- we are talking about jumping off -- jumping off the cliff -- who tax! he misses that -- whoa! he misses that october 1 inches, 2 inches. that's in laguna beach, california. he let out a scream when he realized he was falling toward the jagged rocked. afterwards he said he would not try that anytime soon. donald trump says there is one positive outcome from hillary clinton's email scandal. >> hillary clinton has taught us

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lou: the u.k. taking a page from donald trump. the british minister of state for immigration announcing plans to build a big new wall in a border port in france, calais to prevent immigrants in nearby camps from sneaking through the tunnel. it's not quite as big as trump's 35-foot wall. at least the minimum, if you will, the floor on at wall is 35 feet high. joining me now john bolton, former united nations

ambassador. the british after being so rude to donald trump, now are stealing his ideas. >> well, they face -- it's ironic, this cal air, s entry -- this calais entry point has attracted thousands of people who want to get through the channel. they have had riots and terrorist threats it's something happening all over europe. they see the impact of these people coming in. it's amazing the political effect it's had. lou: for the british to be emulating donald trump, this looks like the resumption of a special relationship if he's elected. let's turn to russia. current problems we face as a nation. a russian fighter taking on one of our p.s. surveillance and spy

planes over the black sea within 10 feet. and what happened? nothing. how long can this nonsense go on without a mistake? >> we are right at the point of mistake. 10 feet away with those kinds of bleans that kind of speed is see row feet away it calls to minds the sort of things they did to our ships in the baltic sea a few months ago and resuming flights of strategic bombers near our coast. putin will continue to do this as long as he thinks he can get away with it. he certainly got a free pass until january 20 of next year. it's not just the russian problem. it's around the world. everybody saw what china did to obama to make him come out of the belly of the plane instead

of the main entrance with it other leaders did. lou: as a national security expert, former member of the state department, ambassador to the united nations, what leader in his right mind or her right mind takes an insult like that and just tramples on down out of the belly of air force one? why would you put up with this? >> this is no drama, obama. he did stands up to the president of the philippines who called him an s.o.b. and agreed not to have a meeting with him. the real problem is not the insult and lack of response. the real problem is china, russia and, and o on on the of d others will already perceived the weakness and taken advantage of it. he has a bull's-eye sign on his back and "kick me" sign and they

are willing to oblige. lou report russians have crimea. the chinese continue to build their islands in the south china sea. they continue to build out their missile capabilities. this is happening and it's without effect. it's a lot more than just an insult with having him trundle down the steps of the aircraft. >> the positions of strength we created over decades, political and economic strength are eroding, and the struck tiewrts of deterrence that stopped the russians and chinese from thinking about this kind of thing are disappearing. you don't hear anything about this from hillary clinton. she'll be barack obama's third term and i think these leaders know that already.

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irresponsible of the national liberal media to ignore hillary clinton's obvious hailtd l health issues. 93% say yes, it's irresponsible. senior pastor of the new spirit revival center, pastor darrell scott. great to have you with us. lot of people are reacting to donald trump's trip to detroit. the democrats are having a hissy fit. they are upset. it's like there is a fence you don't cross if you are a republican candidate for president, and he has mightily upset democrats, especially one hillary clinton. what do you make of it? >> they are upset about it because they are making inroads in the african-american community. he went to my friend wayne t. jackson's church. we had a wonderful time. so hillary wants to reach back into the past and pull the

birther issue out so they can play it. they are trying to make birther issue a racial issue. and it was never a racial issue, it was political. they are trying to ply on the emotions of black people. but we had a great time in detroit and there are a lot of people who changed their mind about donald trump just off that one meeting. they say he's not the way i thought he was, the way the media depicts him to be. lou: it's a terrible to see when people are shoulder to shoulder that people aren't cartoon cutouts of one another. looking at the reading i do every day. one reporter was having a fit about a black pastor who he claimed was opening his church to a quote-unquote bigot, referring to trump.

this is nasty stuff. you know, what do you think? >> they play the race card on trump all the time because that's all they have. trump communicates and connects with african-americans. we can relate to his realness, his plain spokenness. i like this swag. he's cool. they play that race card. one thing about the race card, when you play it. they played the race card as a trump card because when you refute the racial allegations they can accuse you of being a racist for revealing it. but there are a lot of supporters of donald trump, there is an under grounds trump support movement by blacks that fear the backlash from our constituents and our families. but i know of a ton of leaders and people who will support him. i coined the term i want to continue produce on the lou dobbs show to america.

there is a term for the black supporters of trump who don't want to let everybody know. the term is right now they are incognegro. they prefer to remain incognegro. they will support trump. when they are in that voting booth all by themselves with nobody look over their shoulder to critique or judge them for the choice they make, they are going to vote for donald trump a lot. lou: i feel about the vote, the african-american vote, the black vote in this country that's taken for granted by the republican party, working men and women who are union members. their management is going one direction supporting illegal immigration. and they are going to be voting for trump.

just as they voted for reagan. i think it's a wonderful thing to see. >> i do, too. lou: pastor, it's great to see you. >> thanks for having me. i'm looking forward to coming back again and again. i'm trying to invite myself eciate that. pastor darrell scott. we thank you for being with us. kennedy: tonight donald trump says he has a plan to rebuild the u.s. military and rebuild isis. but will it work? damaging new details on hillary clinton's seem scandal. is there evidence she tried to manipulate the benghazi hearing? one well-known coach tells his players if you pull a capper nick you are never -- pull a kaepernick, you are never getting off the bench.

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