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[applause] john: we are back with their libertarian town hall with governors gary johnson and bill

weld pick the libertarians want limited government that libertarians agree one thing government should do is provide for the common defense. some american sphere libertarians won't do that. >> i'm voting for donald trump because he's going to protect our country and build that wall. what are you guys going to do to protect our their country? >> so we are the only ticket that is not isolationist and this year's race. the two other tickets -- [applause] they have turned their backs on free trade which has been the cornerstone of american supremacy in the world since the second world war and we as a party and as individuals believe that the cornerstone of u.s. foreign and military policy has to be military supremacy, demonstrated supremacy and naval and airpower. people all over the world pay attention to that. john: you want to cut a 20%. >> that's not to say we are not going to have supremacy in the

air and naval power. we may not want to have 40,000 boots on the ground fighting for wars simultaneously a regime change. when it comes to regime change in american blood on foreign soil and boots on the ground in foreign countries, we would be quite a bit more skeptical and restrained than certain other candidates in the race. john: a questioner said trump is going to keep me safe by building a wall. >> a wall is the craziest thing i've ever heard in my entire life. john: why? people are upset with people crossing the border and some of them are committing crimes. >> statistically they are committing less crime than u.s. citizens and they're not taking jobs the u.s. citizens want. we should make it as easy as possible for somebody that wants to come into this country and work and to be able to get it work face and a work visa should entail a background check and a social security card and taxes are being paid. john: on facebook eric christian

says smaller more focused isis style terrorist attacks are becoming more common. how the proposed to defend the u.s. in these types of violence? >> these are isis inspired attacks and look, we involve ourselves in regime change. in my lifetime i cannot think of one single incidents where our supporting regime change has resulted in things being better and not worse. [applause] john: guardians do have questions? go ahead. government doesn't like the competition. [applause] >> i question is will you cut all foreign aid including aid to israel and treat everyone equally and fairly around the world? [applause] >> i think that yes we

philosophically, why are we building roads, schools bridges and hospitals and other parts of the world when we have those same needs here today? [applause] >> having said that you mentioned israel. i have a long record with israel. they are a vibrant democracy and a politically sensitive area of the world so it would be at cold day in july before i would totally freeze them out. [applause] >> so you guys don't agree on this. >> i think that we have come to believe that foreign aid is about food and medicine when foreign aid really for the most part just crops up more in dictatorships and into anything but. [applause] john: next coming here. >> i believe regime change has

worked in germany and it's worked in japan and it worked in iraq and tell obama pulled out. why not support boots on the ground when the u.s. assets are involved? >> in germany and japan we got attacked so boots on the ground there. >> this was us having been attacked. a big difference here. >> think iraq, think syria, think libya. those were not successful regime change operations. >> that's because obama pulled out and we were attacked. john: you don't believe that because we got involved in iraq but that is why we are now dealing with iran and in essence became isis in syria and libya, that was a consequence of a regime change in iraq and getting involved in a regime change in those two countries have also led to the arming of isis? not eventually but it's what has

happened. >> incursions like that can have unforeseen consequences, and as bad as the situations are our interventions have resulted in something that i best is the same and oftentimes is worse. >> a hello governors. you believe in blowback and what would you do as commander-in-chief. >> absolutely believe in blowback and the fact that we are flying these drone strikes and killing thousands of innocent people that have resulted in the situation being worse and not better. do you rule out drones completely? i don't think you do that. not to discount potential use that to actually address the enemy but for the most part i just think this is blowback. john: next is and voting john: next is and voting libertarian wasting your vote? announcer: alvin and the chipmunks want to remind you--

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[applause] john: now more for libertarian town hall.

here's something lots of people ask libertarians. >> and i wasting my vote voting for liberty and candidate by and voting republican or democrat seems like a more sure bet to win? john: it does frankly and donnie would post whare you trying to split the conservative vote knowing it only strengthens hillary? >> let, a wasted vote is voting for someone you don't believe in and that's a wasted vote. [applause] >> if you agree with us we are fiscally responsible, we are socially inclusive and tolerant if you agree with us and you want to waste your vote on trump or clinton, the airgas. we are libertarians. [applause] john: into the clear they say you were going to help elect hillary but in the polls you are pulling roughly equally with the democrats. >> what's going on here's the two parties have a monopoly. they created the commission on debates. they exist for no other

personnel than to try to kill each other and perpetuate their own duopoly in washington washington and they're practically trying to brainwash people into thinking you have to be in r or a d because that's what mommy and daddy always did and it's simply not true. you have two candidates who are going to be running against and are the third ticket and they do not have our set of views for the republican party is not socially inclusive and welcoming quite to the contrary they tried to make a platform unit that was before the convention. the democrats are going to spend money like water so we have a six lane highway right up the middle. we are two term republican governors in blue states and we got stuff done and balance the budget and that's really needed in washington. we are not saying trust us, we are saying we have already done it and that's going to be a winning argument. [applause]

john: who is next year? >> my question is basically all of my friends that are democrats my age are not voting for the nominee and a lot of friends -- friends who are republican or not voting for donald trump eight how do you make young people in america believe in democracy and vote on voting day? >> i think we tell ourselves it's 70% of americans don't even know who we are and i think we are the natural ticket, the natural candidate specifically for young people with the emphasis on freedom and liberty. that doesn't hurt us at all with them but basically know no, you can't go on forever spending money that you don't have and i think this millennial generation is going to turn the country this election cycle. john: tasha moore is his question for you. what can you do to ensure is that you are libertarians because i'm not quite quite believing it's? >> oh tasha, come on.

john: you are just another liberal republican. >> let's not forget that the libertarian party did make us their nominee. it was a contested race. john: pasha seems to believe about you but not your running mate. >> del and i both have self-identified as libertarians iselle going back to 1970. my papers in high school writtes quite well-known. my first press conference as governor i greeted the members of the fourth state by saying fellow libertarians welcome to room 156. there was nervous laughter in the room because they knew i wasn't joking. john: on twitter, stossel wired a parading as progressives? muslim's, pandering to black

lives matter, muslims and so forth. >> the trump folks said all lives matter and the correct answer to the question to black lives matter is not all lives matter, it's yes. [applause] john: what do you say the person who says you are coming out like represses and the republicans who part of my social media fanbase, they are angry at your liberal position. >> there is probably not anything i can say to that reduces him that would change them. >> beating with industry heads if we can be assertive and without spending taxpayer money, trying to improve the lot of citizens and increase the number of good jobs out there, you call that progressive, okay but that's our job and all of this. john: one last one for this block jp finney tweeted this

question. stossel, this gary johnson believe he is able to effectively debate tromping clinton? his stage presence lacks command. >> oh man. [laughter] [applause] john: i think that is what the tweeter means. >> i will take it over bullying and braggadocio and sanctimonious speeches, that's for sure. [applause] john: audience what you think? does the lack command? >> no. john: when we return, glimmers of hope. >> i'm kind of interested in the other candidates for republicans and democrats are kind of roaming me out. what is success?

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[applause] john: my mind is made of. i'm not neutral. i'm going to vote for these guys. they very much better choice than trump or clinton but what chance do you have when you can't get into the debate and to recent polls found most americans haven't even heard of

you. we had your pictures blown up. the producer showed these things to people around new york. >> do you recognize this man? >> no. >> i don't know. >> no, i've never seen that base. john: a few people have a clue. >> that's gary johnson. >> a few people recognized bill weld. >> is the vice presidential nominee for the libertarian party. john: once we told them what the libertarian stance for they were more interested. >> governors howdy possibly compete when people don't know who you are? >> well the first presidenal debate is projected to have more viewership than the super bowl so there is no chance of his winning without being in that

name but we believe that we are going to be in that game. john: why are you so confident? you are five points away. >> 70% of the people the country don't know who gary is. we will be spending money to increase our name recognition. john: 30 days is enough? >> i see it in fund-raising. it has picked up jim matt kuchar kuchar -- geometrically. gary is getting mobbed in airports and he wasn't before. else i read this the day it's announced that we are going to be in the debates were just not going to be until the end of september. it will probably be the first or second week of september on that day we will have saturation of the media coverage for the entire balance of the election season. [applause] >> by the time the debates come around gary is going to have 100% name recognition. the artificial advantage will have disappeared.

john: here's your last chance tonight. what would you say to america to convince people that you are viable competitors, better than the other two? >> i think philosophically we speak for the majority of americans. we are fiscally conservative. we are socially inclusive and we really question these military interventions that have made things worse, not better. we believe in free trade. we believe in diplomacy and if you want to think that anything is going to change with trump or clinton, guess again. how about two former republican governors, not off the street but to republicans former republican governors serving in blue states, reelected. we have been there, we have done that. this is something that we can do and have done. we don't have to prove anything. john: governor weld your last

statement tonight? >> i can improve on that. gary, you are the man. [applause] john: we have more questions. [applause] we had more questions than answers than we had time for tonight. we just posted that on the web site at john stossel.com. you can hear more from the libertarian presidential and vice presidential candidates. thank you governors. gary johnson and sub five i don't agree with everything you say but those of you would make a better president than hillary clinton and donald trump and of course after tonight show more people realize that. you will be allowed in the debates and when america hears your libertarian libertarian ideas and realizes they are much better than repression from hillary and donald you will be elected so president johnson, vice president weld.

>> 17% after tonight. thank you john. [applause] america. we will respect that. now here is lou dobbs. lou: good evening everybody i'm lou dobbs. we begin with breaking news tonight. the united states and russia have just announced a new peace deal for syria. secretary of state john kerry says russia and the united states have agreed to a cessation of hostilities in syria to take effect by monday. also tonight a big selloff on wall street. investors increasingly anxious about our country's leadership weather in the white house, capitol hill or the federal reserve. the dow jones industrials today plunged losing nearly 400 points. that's the worst one-day loss sincere