movement and throw the bums out. that's what donald trump has done. lou: thank you both. that's it for us tonight. tomorrow congressman marsha black vernon among our guests. please be with us. there's so much to talk about. good night from new york. kennedy: to my present, plans to accept 100,000 more refugees to the u.s. but here's the rub, they would arrive next year when the next president is in charge. dana perino weighs in plus gary johnson could now be the deciding factor in the biggest election of all, ohio. the latest on the polls therein johnson's latest push to get into the debate in rock music icon is here to tell me about his brand-new album and what it's like to work for the donald. it's time to jam. hackery is now a common practice and you are just as likely to get news and information from stolen e-mails as you are from the story in "the new york times."

this time it was sony or the dnc by former secretary of state colin powell whose digital dumpster was made public by wikileaks. he doesn't have a shiny collection of smoking guns or anthony weiner and prescience in his outbox that we know of at least a lack of linkage politics and through these e-mails we have seen many signs of the same or start points the jet setting colin who in one letter described grabbing the dash from being pulled into hillary clinton's private server hell. hrc could have killed his two years ago by merely telling everyone honestly what she had done and not bring into. i told her staff three times not to try to ambit. i had to throw many tantrums to get their attention. then there's mean girls as financier jeff leeds wrote to hillary and she hates the president.

that man is the clintons all him kicked her out in 2008 3g can't believe it for except a gift. no one likes us. powell chimed in with she is working yourself to death. then they agreed hillary could never be one of the classics. >> there is not a colin quote they're going to get the necessary use of e-mails with rules. watch your mouth sir. you are a four-star general i will have you know and who doesn't love pop-culture powell who references whose favorite steve carell movie. i'm told hillary's minions repeatedly they are make you miss a trick to me and yet they still try. she is getting crucified and of course there is torn colin the guy who hates the use of the sacrificial lamb but also despises donald trump. he describes their public and

nominee is racist, national disgrace and an international pariah. what have we learned from all of this? powell is prone to gossip the mic in the other establishment military politicians he's obsessive about his record. he's very much into politics and defines both candidates. there was talk he might endorse hillary at some point but with tracks across his back from being pummeled by -- it's safe to say he will stay out of the presidential race and off e-mail for at least the next few months. something for you and your inboxefrom me. i m. kennedy. that colin powell just spitting nails angry at hillary clinton for scapegoating him on this over scandal. let's ask tonight's panel carla shimkus "fox news" 24/7 on serious xm channel 115 camille foster is here.

he is a partner at -- media and guy benson the political editor and "fox news" contributor. welcome panel to the show. best podcast in the world. i will start with you. what do we know from these e-mails? who looks good and looks bad? >> there's one he didn't bull in a monologue that i would like to read a lot of possible. this is colin powell writing to an associate. i would rather not have to go through her, meaning hillary although she is a friend that i respect. 7-year-old person with a long track record of unbridled ambition and greedy not transformational but the husband still [bleep] bimbos at home. kennedy: wow riyadh there's a reason i didn't use that.

what does that say there? i'm not expecting an endorsement anytime soon and i think when you see the totality of the e-mails he seems really bothered by the fact and just resentful that hillary is part of their wild flailing of the e-mail scandal kept trying to drag him into it and over and over again he was upset about it going so far as to -- of the party at the hamptons. kennedy: you don't do that clearly. camille your art is a contrary and so now we are seeing leaks from somebody different sources and some different accounts and i don't even know if there's any embarrassment in the e-mail leakage like there used to being the good old days. >> one lesson that everyone should extract from this your e-mails are not write it. don't write anything in an e-mail that you would not stand behind on publix -- on television. what i also find interesting though or the other things that

are happening that conservatives are probably none too happy about diminishing the benghazi controversy and saying it was a witchhunt. his correspond with condoleezza rice were he and she both seem to have a lot of contempt for their contemporaries while they were in the white house. i talked them about the pentagon family. the one type of defense i might offer and it's not much of a defense is that sometimes when things go wrong and you have a policy like we are going to rebuild iraq and it's going to go swimmingly it doesn't work out because what you're trying to do is just impossible. no one can do it. no perfect gerson can do it in sometimes that's why government ales. kennedy: is impossible for people like that who have been in power. it's impossible for them to believe that perhaps they were wrong and they spent the rest of their lives and the rest of their careers defending bad choices. >> i did love that bit of gossip

kennedy: you have to feel a little bit bad for colin powell. this is leaked information but i think overall the big losers are hillary clinton and donald trump. it's going to show that hillary clinton was trying to cover her tracks and it goes long with the narrative that she does not tell the whole truth and she's very secretive but at the same time colin powell has been a well-respected politician and donald trump could use them on the side where downey called trump a national disgrace. kennedy: and an international pariah and said his whole birther movement was racist. >> all of that so that really goes to show why he has not endorsed either candidate yet. kennedy: speaking of trump yesterday he unveiled a childcare plan incentives for employers to provide childcare services that work and expansive tax deductions for parents. >> we need working mothers to be fairly compensated for their

work and have access to affordable, quality childcare for their kids. these solutions must update laws passed more than half a century ago where most women were still not in the labor force. kennedy: ivanka is the new chris christie. trump's plan isn't exactly out of the conservative playbook so guy i will start with you because there are some things the government should do in most things government shouldn't. i don't but it makes you a heartless person to save maybe we should take a step back before we think about a grab bag of services and mandates for childcare and doesn't discourage employers from giving their own childcare at work and relying on the government? >> kennedy what you miss if they are going to pay for this by eliminating waste fraud and abuse which is a serious plan that we need to attach a lot of credibility to. not like we can service mock

liberals when they say that would say do all the time. so most is that donald trump is in favor of bigger more expensive more powerful government and more mandates and this is a play to try to appeal to female voters. i remember when ivanka trunk -- trump major speech. is this an actual policy of his sources going on? and mention the pay gap thing without all the necessary context which is why that's not the issue that the left claims that it is. he still makes help with female voters. is it just going to adopt wholesale the left's rhetoric that conservatives have been fighting against for years? it's frustrating. kennedy: not to be cynical but it seems this is a clear play for women where he is behind as much as 20 or send from hillary clinton in some polls. does that make you heartless person to say maybe we should stop and think about this before we drive billions of dollars

into it. >> it doesn't make you heartless and is perfectly reasonable to say we can care about these things in than there other ways to achieve these objectives without social engineering for the tax code. no one should be surprised. donald trump has never been much of a conservative on most issues. during the primaries which makes one wonder what on earth is a conservative saying? certainly we talk about traditional conservatism but today conservative voters out of the entire field don't seem to care about those issues as much as a lot of people thought. >> conservatives don't seem to mind. kennedy: conserving and constricting the size and role of government which a lot of conservatives claim that was the basis of their beliefs. >> we don't care or something. >> i agree with you all but i strangely think that donald trump did himself a service in his plan. he's trying to grab those female voters but he also used a softer

more presidential town. he brought a secret weapon in ivanka trump and in terms of who is going to pay for this plan is far less aggressive than what hillary is suggesting. kennedy: a lot of it has to do with tax credits. a lot of people who need the federal income tax and therefore they don't get the tax credit at all. much more coming up with gary johnson unveiling a new plan to get to the presidential seat. we will tell you what is hoping to pull off and leave your edward snowden appealing directly to president obama for a pardon. i will ask dana perino about it. what powers the digital world. communication.

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kennedy: gary johnson racing the clock to get poll numbers up to that magic 15% threshold in five polls which would allow him to enter the presence of the base. johnson and his running mate bill wells took out a full-page ad in "the new york times" aimed at the commission on presidential debate. the ads suggest letting the governor into the first debate ended the doesn't meet their criteria after that he will accept their decision. meanwhile in the new bloomberg poll johnson has tempers and in that state and that is a make or break state called ohio. not enough to win of course but more than enough for both clinton and trump. camille foster and guides estin.

camile, maybe what -- aleppo was in the worst f having a good week. >> if you have lemons make a monet. he got a lot of coverage and this seemed like the right strategy. unfortunately it may be a little bit too little too late. i don't like his chances of making this happen and i don't see the committee finding the right colonized a emission and letting him get into the debates. kennedy: what's keeping him out of the? 10% is 10%. >> it's a creature of the two major parties. what they get did is they keep their guy relatively safe from this third party person who they can't say would be drawing host away from hillary? >> he has got on the ballot in all 50 states. >> i think mary -- maybe gary johnson is thinking to himself today maybe i should have gaffed

majorly earlier because one of my points on twitter is perhaps reasonable to suspect that all of the coverage of the gaffe cost of a voter's to say holy hell they're someone other than these two awful people? kennedy: he makes a mistake and acknowledge that. >> his cleanup was good. he was human and good to. kennedy: you felt bad for him. >> you are also right the recent is because a lot of people don't like hillary clinton or donald trumps of his popularity is falling but i agree. i think you should be on the debate stage. american people deserve to hear what he has to say and in terms of facebook posts about him, he doubled right now what they normally had at 8 million posts last week. it's usually 4 million some most people are taught about him more than ever before burt reflected on the great poll numbers. >> in it quinnipiac poll that has met 13% nationally.

they are going to use in their polling average formula at the debate commission but still it's a major national poll where he is within shouting distance of the 15 percentage points. time is running out. kennedy: quickly there a lot of libertarians who don't want to see gary johnson on the debate stage because they don't want him to embarrass himself. do you think he could handle that glare of the spotlight? >> i have honestly been surprised and pleased by the energy that kerry seems to have now out there on the campaign trail. he's doing a great job giving speeches. i think compared to the show that we are likely to get from these two candidates. >> he could just show up to the debate is a hi i'm gary johnson, i am neither of these two people. kennedy: coming up president

obama only as a few months left in his term as the president but it appears he saving some of his most controversial decisions for last. dana perino is here to weigh in on the demonstrations planned to accept another 100,000 refugees. will be the next big campaign issue and rapper lil' wayne says there is no racism. does he have a point? that's ahead.

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kennedy: welcome back. edward snowden wants president obama to pardon him seeking, commercial break acknowledged as he broke the letter of the law. he says his disclosures prompted good reform with -- which

justified his actions and that warrants a pardon and critics say he should be locked up forever or worse. dana perino is here former white house press secretary and the host of the brand-new show paris no end firewall. if premiere sunday september 18 at 5:00 p.m. awe "fox news" channel. two of my favorites. that's going to be phenomenal. >> i think it's going to be fun. everybody has to stay tuned so they can find out. it's not how you and i will ever say it. >> you have obviously an insider view into the pardoning process. i'm assuming that you were there as president bush was deciding who to pardon. >> president bush was criticized for quite a few years for being stingy with pardons. it is a great power that is given to a president and you can use it in a way that can help people who are remorseful, people that served their time

and snowdon does not qualify in any of those categories. one of the things that's hard for our president leading up to the administration are her estimate been a future is that you get lobbied file such a people so let's just say you are at a receiving line or a private fund-raiser, hey by the way my uncles nephew the cousin of so-and-so. kennedy: that brings up a good point because imagine the number of people hillary will have to pardon. >> what we remember the most about the last days of the president's administration, mark rich. kennedy: who was the pardon attorney? do you know who? eric holder who eventually became the attorney general and has said snowden deserves some sort of a deal. >> westray predicted obama would be pressured to pardon ed's note in and then four months later

polls are saying maybe you should be. you know why? of the proper thing to do. it's the wrong thing to do. a lot of people deserve spartans and snowdon is not one of them. kennedy: you either one of% want to see him pardoned or not. >> the movie comes out this week hopefully president obama does the right thing and ignores this. i don't think it's going to. january 19, 2017 he will get the pardon. kennedy: very adjusting. >> down on the pardon. if it was a roman emperor in the colosseum. kennedy: a lot of people like to see them fight the tiger. >> tried that, that's fine. kennedy: president obama is planning big changes in the remaining months and the president admitting 110,000 refugees in the year 2017 that

begins october 1. that's up from 70,000 last year. obviously there are a lot of people displaced in war-torn parts of the world. a lot of this because of hillary clinton's bad decisions. i grew up in the lutheran half half -- household than we did a lot of refugee resettlement in denver colorado. that was one of the places that refugees from the war for former soviet union fled my mom and dad took us and we had to figure out , i remember this russian grandmother wanted a particular spice for this chicken dish that she wanted to make and there was no google back in those days. my mom went all over denver and she showed her how to ride the bus or she could get to this russian grocery store. i have a soft spot for refugees but i also think people are refugees for reason. the way you solve this problem is not in the united states produce all that at its source. kennedy: i don't think it's our job to fix those places. do you deal with the neighboring countries like saudi arabia and jordan and say you guys are a

lot closer. >> i would be an interesting thing for hillary clinton to take on because she was secretary of state. you can't just have military support or not or diplomatic support or not. kennedy: we should let them all at the white house. >> i truly believe the condition of the world in countries where you foam at terrorism ultimately will hurt the united states. the neocon view i've had it since i was a kid that i can't shake it but i also think president obama in the remaining months if he wants to bring more refugees fear he will have to deal with that with congress that he should try to solve this problem at its source. asking russia to do this for us in syria i don't biggest going to cut it. kennedy: area good, dana perino. coming up the daredevil survived the plunge off of the side of the hotel. will he get in trouble for swimming without a lifeguard on

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i think i hear whipped cream and i find this. kennedy: look at her go to town on the whipped cream. i know what you and your friend were doing before you scurried away. so classy. it's like huffing sweets. say what you will about shaquille o'neill. i have always been a portland trailblazers fan. the big guy has a delightful

sense of humor and i don't know if he had been taking shots of whipped cream or hillary's robitussin. but he took time out from hand modeling his championship ring to recreate the choreography from ken yes west's save video. [♪] that is not shaq. but that woman had quite a bottom. does superman have the same move? [♪] he's bone drunk and jolly. the red and white striped undy wears put me in the mood for christmas. he would make a terrifying elf.

i think santa was black. topic number 3. supper is coming to an end. and remember don't run and no horse play and try to refrain from jumping off the roof of your hotel. idiots. now, sadly that daredevil didn't wait a half-hour before jumping into the pool. moments later he cramped up and crowned. i saw the same thing happen and he made the most inhuman sound i ever heard. topic number 4. london nerds using the city's under ground found themselves

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kennedy: look at that. there is no more racism according to rapper lil wane. wane. -- lirks l wayne. i never dealt with racism and i see everybody. i don't have a -- this type of crowd or that type. my crowd has always been everybody. thank god. kennedy: did we fix everything or is there still work to be done. kmele, i'll start with you since you are a fan of hip hop. lollipop. >> i'm an expert on the subject. kennedy: is there no racism because --

>> i don't think wayne made that claim. he said i have personally never experience racism, i have been blessed in my life. there are clearly a lot of things going on, i don't know much by the. i examined it closely. i suspects there are problems, but in my own life and my career, it hasn't been an issue. i respect staying in your lane. i respect that. i don't have a lot of interest in what artists and athletes have to say. kennedy: i think people should enjoy the music they want. i thol daryl hall from hall and oats. someone accused them of cultural appropriation. if you are a white person and you have dread locks, you are culturally appropriating something that doesn't belong to

you. >> music belongs to to all of us. >> i thought at least that would merit a fox news alert to announce end of racism. pretty impressive. kennedy: i under sold that. we'll go back with the theme and rethink some things. a bunch of parents are freak out over a video of an under sized young lad. look at this. he's a huge powerhouse. one after another. he likes it. there is a big debate on whether kids sports should be separated

by size and not age. kennedy: i want them to be protected. but he's playing rugby, it's a physical sport. >> if he were my kid, high fives all day. i felt bad for him originally because everybody was making fun of him for his size. and really, if i were his parent i would be so proud because he could go up. >> how would you feel if you had a 9-year-old or 10-year-old playing at that level and they said he had to play with -- with 16-year-olds. shaq comes in and you have to shaq-proof the whole league.

kennedy: the kobe rules said you couldn't leave high school. >> they changed the hockey rules for denver's goalie. i wouldn't be surprised if nick is on an airplane to australia now. kennedy: i think it's sexy and beautiful. i think that level of competition is inspiring. and making other people safer. but i look at it from the view of the parents. if one of my daughters were so good at gymnastics and getting the perfect hands on her, i would fly the double bird. that's what i would do. the jelly beans.

what am i, ronald reagan? don't answer that. have a beautiful night. coming up, should we settle the election with an actual foot race instead of a ballot box? joe biden seems to think so. he challenged the donald to run. meatloaf is the name of a legendary rock star who is here to talk about the election and his new album. stay put. thwow, it's nice.ew 2016 chevy malibu. let's check it out. do any of you have kids? i do yes. this car has a feature built in called teen driver technology, which lets parent's see how their teens are driving. oh, that's smart. it even mutes the radio until the seat belt is fastened. will it keep track of how many boys get it in the car? (laughter) cause that could be useful. this is ahead of what my audi has for sure.

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kennedy: joe biden is swing for hillary clinton as she recuperates from pneumonia. challenging donald trump to release his medical records. >> i would love to jog with him.

i don't think he could keep. kennedy: would uncle joe beat the donald in a foot race? i'll ask greg gutfeld. gregg, welcome back. >> thank you for having me, it's always a pleasure. kennedy: i don't know why democrats are focusing on donald trump's health. i think they should shift their focus. >> i don't know. but can we address this foot race? having two men in the range of 70 jogging, they wear little shorts. every time you see politicians jog they have tiny dolphin shorts. they don't wear the underware. they like the freedom. and you are not supposed to wear underwear. but i think jogging is a bad idea.

ronald reagan chopped wood. kennedy: so did george washington. >> i don't know if that was true. we didn't have iphones so nothing really happened. i don't believe anything before i phones because we don't have anything on record. about these health records. i understand why people are so worried about this. everyone is hiding something. if you are my age and you have nothing to worry about in your medical records then you are boring. there has to be something colorful in your backgrounds. kennedy: you are saying hillary might be the most exciting person in the country. >> or donald. kennedy. there should be a health exam he do independently. trump can't have his own

doctor -- kennedy: he's the healthiest, wisest president ever to run for office. >> he may never die. kennedy: or the first person too reach 1,000. >> i'm not sure he was ever born, but a gift from the heavens. we can't take his cholesterol. it doesn't exist. we tried to take his heartbeat but there were too many hearts.d sick children. that's how healthy he is. kennedy: from afar. >> we just waved his tears. they need an independent -- >> and a psych h eval. >> they only release the stuff that matters. the heart, the lungs.

if there are embarrassing things you put it in a basket of deplorables and you never open that basket. kennedy: i'll watch your show. i'll watch "the five" tomorrow and friday. >> i'll be watching you. kennedy: i'm a little unnerved. those blue eyes, they are something one would dive into if we were vacation. >> if you were a tiny parasite you could burrow your way into my eyes. kind of a protoelectronic grunge outfit. they were terrible. they are on a comeback tour. kennedy: speak of music.

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kennedy: if you had listened to the radio at all in the last 40 or so years you would know that's meatloaf. he sold 80 million albums worldwide. meat loifs also on season 4 of the "celebrity apprentice" where he came in third with the

unknown third party candidate donald trump. legendary rocker has a newal bundle up called "braver than we are." >> when i saw i'm coming on your show, that was the most exciting thing on my schedule. kennedy: you said the "braver and we are" is your last album. >> unless we do a christmas album called the hot holidays. it will be all duets. >> maybe your daughter pearl. and with this new record you wanted to relights as one track. to you it's a symphony. you have written with jim steinman for 44 years. and you wanted to release it as one track but you couldn't on itunes. >> itunes, apple music, its

many all about tracks. and the first song on the record is called "who need to be young." there are three songs jimmy wrote when he was 19 years old. at 19. so jimmy is not a method writer. he doesn't write about anything about his hive. i'm not a method singer, i'm an actor. everything is a character. so on this album, every song was sung by a 19-year-old. ken. kennedy: that exquisite partnership aloud you to inhabit that role. >> if someone asked me, you are 8, how can you possibly think like a 19-year-old. i said it's called back story. you create a back story for the

character, and when you get to be 19, you just stop it. kennedy: you are part of donald trump's back story. that season where john rich won. you came in third, you were considered the real winner. everyone knew those two were going to make it to the top. do you think donald trump could be president? >> i'm going to repeat dolly parton's phrase right now. the american system is very good and i'm sure the people will make the right choice. kennedy: that's a very safe answer from a dangerous rock star. meatloaf, it's nice the see you. >> that was dolly parton. let's give credit where credit is due. kennedy: come back, write more record. i love seeing you.

tomorrow judge andrew napolitano and mike baker all here. you can follow me on instagram @kennedynation and email me atpr kennedyfbn@foxbusiness.com. of george washington." you're a v.i.p. >> [ laughing ] yeah. >> ...and the pride of a modest family. >> my father was a truck driver. we got along, but we were very frugal. >> so how did she end up with washington's wallet? >> are you a descendant of george washington? >> no, i'm not. and it's quite a long story. >> a story about love of country... >> we want these things because we want a connection to these men. >> ...the allure of big bucks... >> i established a value for the wallet. >> it was a lot of money. >> ...and some good old-fashioned intrigue... >> someone took the wallet and disappeared. [ door creaks ] [ wind howls ] [ thunder rumbles ]