tv After the Bell FOX Business September 29, 2016 4:00pm-5:01pm EDT
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be affected by this we're eight years into a bull market. we could be headed down. you never know. [closing bell rings] liz: hold the phone, at&t and verizon. we're close to the lows of the session with the dow down 194. deutsche bank last check down 6 and 3/4%. david and melissa francis pick it up for "after the bell." melissa: stocks heading down more than 1%. the s&p and nasdaq not too far behind. i'm melissa francis. david: kind of a ugly day in the markets. i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." we have you covered on the big market movers. but first here is what else we have for you this hour. we follow breaking developments out of hoboken, new jersey, at least one person dead and 100 are injured after a train plows into the station full speed during the busy rush hour morning commute. we're live at the scene with the very latest on that. the congress comes out swinging. house financial services tearing
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into wells fargo ceo over his company's fraudulent accounts. what was his defense and what happens now? melissa: back to the markets. the dow ending the day down nearly 200 points. goldman sachs, merck, nike among the biggest drags. we have you covered from all angles. trader scott shellady standing by at cme. lori rothman on the floor of the new york stock exchange. lori, the dow at one point was down 247 points today. what is driving the selloff? reporter: sell you, melissa, the market crashed at 1:45 eastern when a report came out saying hedge funds that use deutsche bank as a clearinghouse for derivatives trading business were bailing out of concerns we've been following for a couple days, weeks now, that deutch pang was having deutsche bank was having a crash crunch. that the $14 billion fine imposed by u.s. during the mortgage crisis was not being able to be covered. that is started things. the deep fear of contagion rattled all and that's when the
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selling started taking off. we came back. the at low dow was down 24points. it closes down 2700. 195 to be exact. -- 200. it had a knock down effect on u.s. financials and especially on the european financials. bank cosan tan dare, barclays, bake of scotland. look at the. looks like about a 15% jump for the vix, the fear gauge. there is a lot of concern as a trader told me today, melissa, it hasn't really been since the greek debt crisis that u.s. investors are focused on the solvency of u.s. banks. add to it the mess with wells fargo and that deep corruption. just a tough day all around for the financial sector. back to you. david: lori, thank you very much. scott, deutsche bank as lori was saying really spooked the market today. did the fear, the fear about
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derivative trading and deutsche bank, did that spread into the trades where you are at the cme? >> yeah, absolutely did. think about the oil equity ratio we've been seeing trade higher. they both trade higher, they both trade lower. if we didn't have problems with deutsche bank, think how well oil could have done today. i think we'll run into selling at $50. people got caught wrong footed yesterday because we saw all-time record highs and volume highs in wti and brent. there is surprise there. volume yesterday was 36% more than the 100 day average. so a lot of guys rushing for the door. remember we also had bad news here. we beat expectations a little bit with 1.4% gdp. take into consideration 4.9% unemployment rate. what are these people making if we're at full employment, what are they making? david: good question, scott, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: here to react to today's market selloff, scott martin, kings views asset management.
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fox news contributor. veronica daguerre as well of "the wall street journal." veronica, let me start with you. financials really big story obviously. deutsche bank story we talked a lot about that. there is the wells fargo grilling on capitol hill. i mean it is just, a tough time for financials. mae there is an opportunity in there? >> there could be, right? we're in this tumultuous time especially stocks like wells fargo and deutch. this is tough time for banking stocks in general. one of the concerns is regulatory concerns. we're seeing more regulatory concerns. you put someone like elizabeth warren in front of the ceo of wells fargo, grilled him last week. more grilling going on today. this will only empower regulators. the banking sector seems to be their favorite lace place to regulate. that will even put more pressure on banks. that said could be a place for investors to jump in. not sure if it is too soon though. melissa: scott, i heard maxine
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waters vowing to break up wells fargo. thank god politicians never do anything they say they will do or else i would be worried about that. gdp still sluggish. estimates revised up, 1.4%, is that something to celebrate? that's horrible. >> not at all. i mean gdp has been not anything to celebrate for a couple years now, melissa. if you look at things that make up that number, look at things like business confidence, look at things like business formation here in the united states. it is at multiyear lows. so if anybody is hoping that gdp will get much better, i think i have another solution for them. that is that gdp will be stuck here. that is really challenge here as we go into november, what candidate can bring out these business, incentivized ideas so we can actually get gdp growing and get gdp growth at least creating more jobs and get the tock market at least stablized here because the financials are starting to break it down. melissa: veronica, i had to laugh. oil surged on the idea that opec
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would cut. people woke up and said hmmm, i wonder if they're really going to do that or just another opec promise? >> right, exactly. we heard things before. we'll see if it actually happens. i think in general to scott's point there is so much uncertainty in the market and the big overhang, whether people admit it or not is the election. i think we're seeing that in the gdp numbers today. the revised gdp numbers. the business investment, it has gotten better but it is still notify. if you talk to ceos they're holding back, afraid of tax uncertainty and selection. because they don't know what will happen come november 9th. melissa: great point. david? >> more on the grilling of wells fargo's chief on capitol hill. fox business's peter barnes on d.c., with late-breaking details and more ammunition from the bank that just came out. go ahead. reporter: that's right, david. wells fargo facing $24 million in fines for allegations that it
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illegally repossessed cars of military personnel in more than 400 cases, and it appears in some cases when they were away on active duty. so wells fargo's problems getting compounded off capitol hill tonight. john stumpf though, in his appearance today professing his accountability before house lawmakers before getting, after getting blasted in the senate just last week as you recall, forgoing $41 million in stock bonuses, giving up his salary during internal board of directors investigation and won't get bonus this year. from lawmakers from both parties that is not the enough. >> if the buck stops with you, as you came out here and said, i apologize, the buck stops with me, and you also have to admit criminal activity was going on in your bank, then you should be fired because it stops with you? >> again, congressman, the board has that power. that is, my energy right now is to lead the company forward.
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reporter: so the bank's already paid 185 million for these two million or so phony bank accounts. it is refunded 2 1/2 million in customer fees. and it has announced a number of reforms and let go of 5300 employees. but congress is making this clear. wells fargo's troubles are far from over. >> we'll make sure those betrayed by wells fargo are not forgotten. it is on their behalf our committee launched an in depth investigation of mr. stumpf, of your bank's activities. around let me be clear, today's hearing is just the beginning of our investigation. it is not the end. reporter: as you know, david, the bank's board has also clawed back 20, 19 million in stock bonuses for carrie tolstedt, the bank's former head of community banking. back to you. david: repossessing cars of military folks overseas fighting.
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talk about bad apticks on day like today? melissa: terrible. let's bring in our own charlie gasparino watching hearing on capitol hill. charlie, what happens now you think? >> you know i told you couple weeks ago on "wall street week" that mr. stumpf would survive this. that was my belief and prediction at the time. my belief and the prediction at this time he will not. why do i say that? i say it for a couple reasons. every bank analysts i talk to say he didn't do enough today to sort of repair his reputation from the last hearing which he really didn't handle very well. that is number one. number two, is confirmation of a report that we had about two weeks ago that warren buffett was actually ready to basically voice his concerns about what's going on and what we've heard today from mr. stumpf he did that he actually called mr. stumpf. mr. stumpf admitted he called. we understand, our sources are telling us, that buffett's
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comments were not exactly laudatory when he called up mr. stomach. we know from liz claman's reporting, that mr. buffett, who is the largest shareholder, he controls a lost market sway on this thing, he will speak up about this sometime after the election. so my guess is, that you know, take all of this together. take this hearing where even republicans, i spoke to several off the record, they were saying this guy did himself no favors in there. it was very, almost impossible for republicans to come to his defense, minimizing the amount here. we're talking about five million dollars. the very notion that he admitted to, that you're an employee under such pressure that you create fake savings accounts and checking accounts and credit card accounts and you may charge the end user in his name or her name $10 over the course of a year, the fact you do that shows there is massive systemic
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problems inside of the bank. they don't have checks an balances. not even republicans could basically defend that and throw him a lifeline. so the talk is he is out. the real question is, does he keep the ceo job. do they put a chairman in and have two people regulating this? we'll know essentially what they do when buffett makes his announcement. i think buffett's word will be sort of the decisive here. that is after the election i understand. melissa: yeah. >> or do they but him out all together. that is the two choices here i think. we'll know from the buffett. melissa: yeah. >> i think there is a very small chance buffett could say this guy has been very good for my stock, i'm supporting him. you never know, the guy is investor when it comes down to it. melissa: seems so unlikely he would survive this. charlie gasparino, thank you so much. good coverage. david? david: meanwhile while we were talking donald trump was talking. he just wrapped up a rally in bedford, new hampshire.
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we're a little more than a week away from his next debate. dr. ben carson is here to tell us what changes trump is making to make sure he wins the next round. melissa: we want answers. today is the deadline for hillary clinton to respond to key questions about her private email server. has she complied? hmmm. yeah. david: more on the deadly train crash in new jersey. we're live in hoboken with the latest details coming next. >> it wasn't a bomb because i saw it happen but it was just initially just a horrendous, horrendous exploding noise. concrete, dust, electrical wires around the train flying into the depot. there were a lot of people kicking out windows trying to exit the train. don't let dust and allergens
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david: deadly train crash in into jersey. 100 injured an one killed after a train smashed into a trainization in hoboken after a very busy commute. adam shapiro is here with the latest. reporter: david, path service has resumed, the service between hoboken and manhattan and new jersey. that started 3:00 p.m. this afternoon. we show you still photos and video from inside of the train station after that train crashed this morning. of the 108 who were injured, majority of them were taken to a hospital in jersey city, 66 of them, and 56 of them, roughly 56, 53, rather, have been discharged and they are in good health after their very traumatic morning.
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53 remain in the hospital. you mentioned a woman who died unfortunately as a result of this tragedy. part of the ceiling collapse and debris fell on here. that is what believed to have caused her death. nstb is trying to figure out why the train was traveling at a high rate of speed as it came into the station. the conductor and engineer are both alive. they did not die in this accident. the engineer who specifically is critically injured, according to governor chris christie cooperating with investigators. the key question of course, why was the train moving so fast? and that's something that perhaps the engineer will be able to answer. david? david: adam, thank you very much. melissa? melissa: here now a railroad engineer expert. thanks so much for joining us. from what you have heard so far, what do you think happened? >> you know, the question comes down to what were the engineer doing? that's what was just said. why was he going so fast?
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why didn't he stop the train the way he was supposed to? yes, he is alive and that's great and we can ask him, assuming that he is so traumaized that he can't remember like the amtrak engineer in philadelphia in may of 2015. melissa: a lot has been made of the fact that they didn't have positive train controls. that they were depending on this engineer at the back to pull the brake and obviously it didn't happen. nancy pelosi was talking about this a short time ago. these trains were supposed to have it and they don't. listen to what he had to say. >> i don't think we should have extended the deadline if the trains were still running. if you extend the deadline, stop the trains. it is about time and it is about time congress faced its responsiblities. melissa: what do you think about that? >> well, you know, i guess it is okay to say if the trains are not going to have positive train control we stop running trains, and i guess nancy pelosi can answer to all the millions of commuters in new york city area
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and all across the country? let's take a look at positive train control. there was a 2012 report by the congressional research service that described positive train control as sensors in the track that will locate where a train is, not an issue here. movement authority. giving the train permission to move from point a to point b. not an issue here. and speed, overspeed control. the point that might be an issue here. a train overrunning a signal. but there is existing technology out there. it's almost like saying, if your house is on fire, you have to have an iphone 7 in order to call the fire department, and that is a correct statement but not complete statement because there are other ways you can call the fire department and that you don't require all the bells and whistles of something like an iphone 7. and that's what positive train control is. melissa: all right. gus, thank you so much for
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coming on. we appreciate your time. >> sure thing. david: well both hillary clinton and donald trump responding to today's deadly crash. take a listen. >> i just want to send our thoughts and prayers to them because it is a horrible accident that ran into the depot and caused all kinds of damage. so, i want to lift up the people of new jersey and new york today. david: trump took to the web tweeting, quote, my condolences to those involved in today's horrible accident in new jersey. my deepest gratitude to all the amazing first-responders. they were amazing indeed. saved lives. melissa: they were quick. hillary clinton looking to count third party voters but is her approach going to be effective? donald trump launching a new attack on clinton. will it work? we're asking peter navarro, trump economic advisor coming up next.
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melissa: donald trump speaking to a crowd at a rally in new bedford, new hampshire. using the event to slam his election rival hillary clinton as well as bernie sanders whose supporters trump appears to be trying to win over. listen. >> bernie sold out to the devil. you know bernie -- [cheering] if bernie had made his deal and just done something where maybe he did nothing and just went away he would have been legendary character, a legendary political figure but the deal he made with hillary was not the right thing. and it wasn't representative of what he should have done to his people. we'll have a lot of bernie's people supporting us especially
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because of my views on trade. david: donald trump continuing his new attack on hillary clinton at that same rally just moments ago. take a listen. >> everything you need to know about hillary clinton, sometim referred to as "crooked hillary" -- [cheering] can be understood with a simple, but very important phrase: follow the money. if she ever got the chance, she would put the oval office up for sale. david: trump suggesting that clinton cares more about her special interests supporters than she does for most voters. peter navarro, economic advisor for donald trump. he joins us with his take on trump's comments. by the way, wasn't only substance, he seemed to have new vigor going into this. yesterday he seemed a little down. i'm just wondering if this new, sort of attack, if i heard stuff for the first time today, on the clinton foundation, this whole idea of pay for play, and of course clinton foundation is a
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prime example of that, why didn't he bring that up at the debate? so many people were hoping he would? >> he accomplished strategically what he needed to do that night. he acted presidential. he didn't take hillary clinton's bait and he really positioned himself as the candidate of change versus the candidate of the status quo. i think that he was reluctant and i think it was wise not to engage, thinking, somehow that lester holt, the moderator would ask the obvious questions on benghazi, on the clinton corruption scandal. david: which he did not do. so he was waiting for the moderator bring it up which didn't happen. well the reason why it is important in addition to it being concern of a lot of people who are for trump, it might bring other people over to trump. even ralph nader, ralph nader is no trump fan at all, but we had him on to talk about the clinton foundation about a week ago. let's play the tape. >> it is the lethal quadrangle. hillary clinton at state
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department, clinton foundation, bill clinton making $10,000 a minute or whatever his speech is, and corporate mining magnates and other big corporations wanting favor. david: so peter if ralph nader can get it, again he is not a big fan of donald trump, i would imagine a lot of independents get that message? >> no question about it. follow the money is true. i have described what the clintons do as most sophisticated political corruption strategy in modern american history. and what's different about it, you usually have a politician taking money with their hand out and then given a favor. that is the way it usually works. what the clintons have done, do it as a tag-team. like a wrestling team. she is in the state department. bill's out there on the stomach. he is collecting -- stump. he puts it in the global clinton initiative or speaking fees, her campaign. meanwhile she is in the state
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department with a calendar where it is front-loaded to all the people who gave money. david: big decisions at the state department had been made about mining deals, uranium mining deals and money sent abroad. i'm just wondering though, he didn't bring it up, he was waiting for lester hold to bring it up. that didn't happen. will he, donald bring it up next at the debate? >> of course the follow on the money, will be one of the central themes. it has been one of the central themes. i think you're right, this will reach the bernie sanders voter. it will reach independents. it will reach people who are disgusted with what hillary clinton does. because it is pay for play. it is follow the money, it is corruption at the highest level. david: by the way how does she respond? if he brings up, how does she respond? >> what she has been doing, she always takes donald trump down her rabbit hole. oh, your tax returns or this or that or whatever.
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and all that needs to be said is, wait a minute, you're the person sledding emails. i'm not doing anything wrong. you're the person sledding 33,000 emails. you're using state department as conduit. by the way only trickle down going on here is the clinton foundation taking millions of bucks, riding jet planes all around and trickling down a little money to africa. to the poor. david: we'll leave it at that. melissa. melissa: costco out with fourth quarter results. the company beating street on earnings but missing on revenue. shares up 2% after-hours. the company plans to open nine new warehouses before the end of the year. there you go. david? david: top issue in the united states, president obama sparking new controversy over the term radical islamic terrorism. lieutenant colonel ralph peters is here to sound off on that. melissa: second faceoff with hillary clinton. donald trump advisors have new strategy in mind.
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path train out of the station has resumed service. this is how people get back and forth between manhattan. the terminal where the train crashed will remain closed due to structural damage. we'll bring you a live update from the hospital where a lot of the injured are receiving treatment later this hour. melissa? melissa: shift in strategy. less than 10 days to the next presidential debate. they are preparing tough round of questioning this time from the audience. how will donald trump prepare for the you town hall-style event? here is dr. ben carson, a donald trump supporter. thanks for joining us today. you have done both kinds of debates. what makes the town hall strategy different? how does it feel different to the person out there? >> first of all there is certain amount of energy derived from the audience because it is much more interactive. donald trump is really a people person. so this is a format that will really pay, play to his strengths much more so than the relatively quiet debate that was
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seen on monday. and i also don't think that you're going to have a lost -- a lot of "gotcha" questions. you have more informational questions. what are you going do do about the economy? how specifically are you going to work to bring jobs back? what are you going to do about the immigration policies. it won't be the gotcha style. that is going to be good. he recognizes that people were expecting to hear a lot of things during the debate that they didn't hear. so he is going to obviously find a way to insinuate those things if they don't come up in the question. because, you know, you got to talk about some. things left on the table. melissa: right. i mean in one sense he owes her a lost shots because he missed a bunch last time. at the same time, you wonder in that kind of format where you have people out there in the audience asking you real questions about themselves, does it make sense to turn and whack
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your opponent? may not be the right setting for that? what is your opinion? >> well you can do it in an appropriate way. for instance, when you're talking, you know, about the economy, and reviving the economy, you can talk about the role of regulations and how he is going to look at all these regulations and get rid of ones not helping people. and then just bring up an example, like obamacare, and employer mandate and what it does and how she would like to continue that policy. don't have to go into a lot of explanation but you make the contrast. melissa: yeah. what do you think is his reaction in the aftermath of the last debate? what do you think that he wants to do differently this time around? >> well, i think the key thing that he wants to do is to make sure that he controls the answers that he gives rather than have them controlled by someone else.
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and, in the process of trying to be polite and not overreactionary, i think he allowed himself to be lead but at same time, he did a good job. you got to recognize that, and 24 hours after that debate, he got $18 million. i think that is single biggest one-day total. melissa: yeah. >> and the online polls all showed him doing much better than hillary clinton. and look at the kind of crowds, i mean next day, 30,000 people came out on a tuesday night? so, i mean, you can't be swayed by the mainstream media who wants to paint the narrative that hillary clinton completely slaughtered him. melissa: from start to finish. he definitely, i don't think the problem at end was him being too polite. seemed like he got off message and she got under his skin. if they're not going as much head-to-head, more about answering to the audience. the way you explain he may have a better shot staying on message at the end than he was at beginning, no? >> absolutely. >> dr. carson, thank you. >> and he realizes that.
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thank you, melissa. melissa: thank for coming on. we appreciate it. david? david: hillary clinton has that millenial problem. as wild as many millenials were for bernie sanders that is not translating into support for hillary. in fact, a lot of former bernie voters are turning to third party candidates, taking more votes away from hillary. but now she is fighting back. here now is jessica tarlov, schoen consulting senior political strategist, mercedes schlapp, former george w. bush spokesperson and a fox news contributor. good to see you both. mercedes, they have a new ad out, the hillary clinton campaign. i think we can show it, but i will talk over it. an attack on gary johnson'ss his questions about global warming and climate change. he is a skeptic. she is hoping millen equals will care more about climate change than jobs and support for free market. do you think that strategy will work for her? >> biggest challenge with the
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millenial voter they don't necessarily focus on one issue, for example, climate change. in fact they don't even try to register that much with a particular party. and their feeling, there is a sense, obviously a number of millenials feeling a sense that two-party system is, it is not working for them. so that's why since they don't like hillary clinton, since they don't have inspirational figure of a barack obama, they feel they can't connect with her, guess what? they're saying protest vote. don't like either candidate at this point. and either i will stay home or vote for a third party. david: but there is a shift here, jessica, which can be noted by david plouffe, who used to work for president obama. now he is working for hillary clinton. i'm going to quote him. you have some people who are dancing with a third party. you've got to go out and fight. we know from history that they can make a difference. it looks like before they were just kind of sitting back and allowing these two third party candidates to go along. now they're taking them on. i think they're concerned that
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might be 2000 where you have independent candidate who takes away from the democrats. >> yeah. well, the studies show that gary johnson is pulling more votes from hillary clinton than from donald trump. david: by the way, jessicas, does that surprise you? >> it doesn't, actually. i think a lot of younger voters, i'm a member of millenial generation look at donald trump lot of confusion. he is idealogically all over the place. he doesn't connect as well with people my age. hillary has policies they might be into, universal health care, protect same-sex marriage, et cetera, generally speaking mercedes is right, they're not gaga for hillary clinton the same way for bernie sanders. tpp poll for battle ground states, huge lead, fantastic hillary clinton. david: by the way, we don't really follow that one for various reasons. we can go into the details of it. it is just a scientific reason we don't go for that. mercedes the bottom line --
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>> "l.a. times poll." david: okay. >> i want to say, quickly, quickly. >> millenial voters prefer hillary clinton over donald trump. gary johnson is the challenge here for virginia, he is in second place. david: mercedes, the bottom line is, the enthusiasm for bernie did not carry over to hillary clinton. enthusiasm is not commodity you can switch easily from one person to the other. it just depends on the person. and they don't like the person. >> and i agree with you, john. at this point it really is about trying to be able to connect with voters. i think where hillary clinton just personally is failing to connect with the millenials. i think enthusiasm gap is real. really can not compare herself to barack obama, that brought in 60% of the millenial vote. she is earning maybe 30% at this point. >> she is earning more than that. she has 13 point edge nationally. that is not just ppp with donald trump over millenial vote. she can speak to people gary
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johnson -- last night he couldn't name another world leader that he admired. david: thank you both. whatever is happening she is not getting same support than bernie did. we thank you, ladies. appreciate it. melissa. melissa: as terror remains a key issue this election, president obama asked why he still won't use the words islamic terror. here is the explanation. >> if you had a organization that was going around killing blowing people up, we're on the vanguard of christianity, i'm not, as a christian i'm not going to let them claim my religion and say you're killing for christ. i would say, that is ridiculous. that is not what my rereligion stands for. call these folks what they are, killers an terrorists. melissa: lieutenant colonel peters is fox news military analyst and joins me now. what is wrong with you just heard or do you agree with that? >> well, first of all you don't have a lot of baptist suicide bombers and don't have a lot of presbyterians killing for
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christ. the argument is vacuous. there is a deep crisis within islam today. melissa, while not all muslims are terrorists, virtually all terrorists today or muslims. and you have to deal with the problem in front of you, you have to deal with it honestly. it is not insult to islam to recognize that terrorists are killing muslims as well. but president obama has a pattern. he can never, will never admit he is wrong about anything. can't admit he is wrong about gitmo. can't admit he was wrong about isis. can't admit he was wrong about pulling troops out of iraq. and he won't admit he is wrong about islam, islamist terrorism, having something to do with islam for two reasons. one, president obama, he just, he is inculcated in the hard-left doctrine that whatever your story, you stick to the story and sooner or later the story sticks. two, he romanticizes islam, goes back to his childhood in indonesia where islam is at its
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absolutely most benign. melissa: what does it mean going forward? if he won't call it radical islamic terror. a lot of people like the conversation has gotten old and distracts from the real problem which is terror? >> well, but you have to get at nature of terror. and words matter. the language guest and host use on this show matter, very, very much. words can be very, very powerful. by denying that islamist terror has anything to do with religion of islam is simply foolish and counterproductive. it is a religion that has great structural problems in the 20 first century. melissa: we have got to go. colonel ralph peters. thank you so much for joining us. wish we had more. david: we'll get back to the tragedy in new jersey. commuters on edge following a deadly train crash in the garden state. we'll bring you details from hoboken live, next. because, healthier doesn't happen all by itself.
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melissa: deadly crash this morning in hoboken, new jersey, as a train went off the rails, plowing through a station platform killing at least one person, injuring at least 108 others. fox news's bryan llenas is standing by in hoboken with the latest on tragic event. tough times. what is the latest? >> good afternoon. tough times indeed, this could have been much worse, given the images that we're seeing. 108 people are injured. one person is killed. i'm at the jersey city medical center where it was the main hospital, where 66 of those injured came here just in the moments after that crash this morning. 13 remain hospitalize in guarded condition. other 53 were let go with bruises or lacerations with twisted ankles and those things. authorities believe we can expect no more fatalities.
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engineer of the train is in critical condition. majority of those injured were actually on the train but unfortunately one person who was killed, while they were on the platform, when debris from the train crashed, from the train crash hit emat about 8:45 this morning, new jersey trsit train arriving at hoe hoe hoboken crashed through barriers at high rate of speed, stopped by train terminal wall. authorities concerned about the structural integrity of that station. look at pictures given to us who was traveling on the way to work in first car of that train. he was standing when the train crashed and roof of the train car in front of him literally crashed right in front of him, escaped from there. listen to one other witness we spoke to in the last car of that train. >> i had to get out. >> somebody else kicked it out? >> people are trying like stampede out. everybody calmed down.
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>> did you help anybody get out of the train? were people trying -- >> yeah, we tried to clear the way for people bleeding more. >> it was surreal. when it first shimmied, my first thought was, this is going to be a life changer, and then the impact came in, and it is a life changer for everybody. >> now the question is, why did this happen. was an operator error. mechanical error. we'll find out. melissa? melissa: brian, thank you for that report. david? david: deleted but recovered, 3,000 more pages of hillary clinton emails set for release just before election day. catherine herridge with details next.
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temperment and qualifications to be president and commander-in-chief. also, really continue stonewall the american voters who deserve to know this information before they cast their votes on november 8th. we will continue to highlight differences and talk about what we want to do that will make life better the families of america. >> secretary clinton -- >> right here. >> i'm sorry, guys. i'm working on a feature. >> so you talk a lot about the middle class. you have throughout the campaign. i'm hoping that you can help define it for me. i'm thinking numerically. where is the policy, tax policy, where do you put the middle class? also philosophically? what is the middle class to you? what does it mean? >> the middle class is the social and economic engine of our country. it is in some ways a reflection
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of the success of the united states from the very beginning, to create greater economic opportunity for people willing to work for it. and it has been one of the premier historic come accomplishments of our country going back decades if not longer. and the middle class is a, hard to define economic target. the way i talk about it, median income in america is. but if you're living in high-cost areas, it if you have, kids you're trying to educate and send to college, if you face health care costs that are beyond the average, staying in and progressing up in the middle class takes more money in some parts of america than it does in others. so my pledge has been that i will not raise taxes on middle class.
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i have defined it as i will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000. because in high-cost places in america, that is a, many in ways a cutoff that makes sense. it is something that president obama had adhered to. something my husband adhered to. when you look at information, across the country. housing is so much more expensive and in lots of places than other places and you understand why we set it at that so middle class is both real and aspirational. and i want to make sure that it remains strong and it gives people a sense of security and confidence and optimism about their futures. >> secretary clinton. >> madam secretary, how worried are you about third party candidates in general, gary johnson in particular? can he be a spoiler and would he be qualified in your view to be president at all?
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>> look, i'm going to keep running my campaign and do everything i can to encourage people to actually get out and vote. i think either donald trump or i will be the president of the united states. and so people have to look carefully in making their decision about who to vote for because it will be either him or me. and i am going to do everything i can to make sure it is me. >> you got a number of republican endorsements but polls show republican voters are solid on trump, solidly behind trump as democrats are behind you. are you disappointed you gotten not as much republican voter support. >> i'm thrilled at amount of republican voter support i've got enand really am, from people who understand stakes at this election and really thought leaders with a lot of experience. so the 50 national security professionals who came out and said they could not support donald trump, some months ago, i
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think spoke volumes about his lack of fitness and qualifications for the job. business leaders from mike bloomberg and meg whitman who some others understand what it will take to have a competitive economy that works for everybody, not just those at top, have been on front lines. we have one who has been a republican officeholders, one current one you know, congressman hanna from new york. former senator warner from virginia who i had great honor of working with when he chaired the armed services committee. i'm really honored and proud to have the level of support and the message that it sends by people who understand what's the next president is going to be facing and have said donald trump should not be anywhere near the oval office. >> secretary clinton -- >> inaugural flight? >> this is your first flight? >> this is my first flight. >> welcome aboard.
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>> thank you very much, happy to be here. trump campaign says they are poised to get personal about your husband's past, your past. how will you respond at debates and what is your response today? >> he can run his campaign however he chooses. that is, that is up to him. i'm going to keep talking about the stakes in this election. i'm going to keep talking about by agenda, that will, i believe, increase growth, make it fairer, have it be lasting, deal with the real problems that families are could confronting. what i want to do to keep america safe, to provide the kind of steady, strong leadership that the country needs which is going to be one of the highest priorities that i will have when i'm fortunate enough to be elected president. that's what turns out. you know, i'm not going to comment on how he runs his campaign. you'll be able to see. we have two more debates. what he says, and what i say.
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reporter: [inaudible]. >> well, you know, look -- [laughter] we have laws in our country and the efforts that trump was making to get into the cuban markets with his business interests ahead of the laws of the united states, and the requirements that his businesses were operating under because of the sanction, shows he put his personal and business interests ahead of the laws and the values and the policies of the united states of america. now, i was a strong
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