and going affect affect because t everything. she is lying again because she said, what she did with the every 8 minutes emails was fine. the red cross responds to a disaster and makes this promise. you think it was fine to delete 33,000 emails? help us keep it. i don't think so. she said 33,000 emails had to do minutes away. with our daughter's wedding number one and yoga class. maybe we'll give three or four ♪ or five something. announcer: this is fox business 33,000 emails deleted and now network coverage of the second she is saying there wasn't presidential debate. anything wrong. and more importantly that was live from washington university after getting a subpoena. that wasn't before. in st. louis, here is that was after. neil cavuto. she got it from the united states congress. . neil: all right, bill clinton i'll be honest i am so and chelsea clinton, they've disappointed in congressmen. been briefed on the fact that trump: including republicans for donald trump upped the ante, if you were going to talk about donald trump and what he said allowing this to happen. 11 years ago here, was going to our justice department where her husband goes on to the back of bring out accusers who charged an airplane for 39 minutes talks far worse than bill clinton to the attorney general days years ago as well. before a ruling will be made on her case. and it is added mightily to but for you to say that there what will be going on the stage was nothing wrong with you three minutes from now. kennedy with me, lou dobbs with deleting 39,000 emails, again you should be ashamed of yourself. me, trish regan with me. what you did and this is after

getting a subpoena from the as you get ready to talk to united states congress. folks in the room and the ground rules, which has changed moderator: we have to move on. everything. secretary clinton we want to move on. >> in a race that is as dynamic as everything we've seen in moderator: we want audience a chance. modern politics, changes trump: let alone getting minutes before the debate kicks off. and you have to wonder, you and subpoena from the united states con. i talked about this in the moderator: secretary clinton, you can move on. break whether or not the participants, the undecided clinton: it is not true. voters have no idea about the trump: you did not he delete trump press conference with the them. clinton: they were personal four accusers. emails not official -- trump: no. neil: they are already locked clinton: we turned over 35,000. down in there, they might hear trump: what about the other 15,000? word of mouth but trish regan, moderator: please allow her to it's got to come up in respond. questioning now and change the she didn't talk when you talked. tone and question. clinton: i didn't. trump: because you have nothing trish: absolutely. to say. the onus is on the moderators clinton: i will try not to do this debate. i like to get questions to to make sure it does come up. people that brought here one would anticipate it would tonight. trump: then get off this and should and does change the question. story somewhat., it's more clinton: okay. donald. difficult for the moderators to i know you're into big diversion sweep under the rug what tonight. anything to avoid talking about happened years ago with bill your campaign and the way it is clinton and the fact that exploding and way republicans hillary clinton stood by his are leaving you. side, not just stood by his trump: let's see what happens. side, neil, was willing to moderator: allow her to respond. clinton: issues that people care trash and destroy any woman who about tonight.

accused her husband of these get to their questions. acts, and so this will come up moderator: we have question from tonight. kin. these are questions she is he has a question about health care. ken. going to have to answer. trump: i like to know, anderson, he has threatened to do so and why aren't you bringing up here we are. emails. neil: all right, you know, you moderator: we brought up emails. think about this, lou dobbs and trump: it hasn't and not finished at all. you're bill clinton looking at moderator: ken has question. trump: this, his wife could come off a sympathetic figure or cut the trump: nice one on three. other way, right? >> affordable care act, known as obama care it is not affordable. lou: i think what we have here is an opportunity for the premiums have gone up. deductibles have gone up. co-pays have gone up. national liberal media to prescriptions have gone up and mature a bit. coverage has gone down. we have seen and heard words what will you do to bring the over the course of the last 48 hours that is the audience of cost down and make coverage better. this country and mainstream moderator: that first one goes media using words that would have been banned in classrooms to secretary clinton because you or libraries, 40, 50 years ago, started out last one to the audience. clinton: he wants to start, he can start. trump: go ahead, hillary. clinton: go ahead, donald. but this is a time to look at trump: i'm a gentleman. what the greater offense is to the interest of the nation, go ahead. [laughter]. which is the greater offense moderator: secretary clinton. clinton: i think donald was against morality. about to say he will solve it by is it lying and private or public, take your choice. repealing it and getting rid of is it the awful words and the affordable care act.

and i'm going to fix it. language, the vulgarity that i agree with you, premiums have donald trump spoke of 11 years gotten too high, co-pays, deductibles. prescription drug costs. ago, not new news in point of i have laid out a series of fact, and just about the same actions we can take to get the costs down. here is what i don't want people to forget. age as many of the charges of when we're talking about raining sexual assault or harassment against bill clinton. in the costs, which has to be, make no mistake about it, both highest priority of the next president. when the affordable care act candidates are in combat and so is the mainstream liberal passed, it wasn't just that 20 million people got insurance who didn't have it before. media, it has to answer now but that in of itself is good thing. i meet the people all the time. that donald trump's engaged them. they tell me what a difference neil: it certainly has, martha having that insurance meant to them and their families. raddatz and anderson cooper are going through the ground rules, they'll ask half the questions but everybody else, 170 million divided evenly between them, of us who get health insurance through our employers got big and the studio audience will be benefits. allowed to ask the remainder. i have a feeling there are number one, insurance companies changes, now to the debate. can't deny you coverage because now to the debate. moderator: food evening i'm of a preexisting condition. number two, no lifetime limits, martha raddatz from abc news. moderator: i'm anderson cooper. which is a big deal if you have we want to welcome you to serious health problems. number three, women can't be

charged more than men for our health insurance which is the washington university in st. louis. way it used to be, before the affordable care act. tonight's debate is town hall format which gives voters number four, if you're under 26 directly a chance to ask the candidates question. and your parents have a policy, martha and i will ask follow-up you can be on that policy until questions. the age of 26, something that the night belongs to people in this room and people across the didn't happen before. country that submitted questions online. moderator: the people on stage so i want very much to save what works and is good about the affordable care act. were chosen by the gallup organization. but we've got to get costs down. they told gallup they have not we have to provide some committed to a a candidate. additional help to small businesses so they can afford to provide health insurance. we saw those questions first time this morning. but if we repeal it as donald anderson and i and our team from has proposed, and start over abc and cnn are the only ones again, all of those benefits i who have seen them. just mentioned are lost to both candidates will have two minutes to answer each audience everybody, not just people who and online question. get their health insurance on the exchange. we hope to get to as many and then we would have to start questions as we can. all over again. so we asked the audience here right now we are at 90% health insurance coverage. not to slow things down with any applause. except for now. that is highest we've ever been ladies and gentlemen. in our country. moderator: secretary clinton, the republican nominee for time up. president, donald j. trump, and clinton: i want 100%, get costs

the democratic nominee for down, keep quality up. moderator: mr. trump, you have president hillary clinton. two minutes. trump: it is such a great question. [applause] maybe the question i get almost more than anything else outside of defense. obamacare is a disaster, you know it, we all know it. it is going up at numbers that nobody has ever seen worldwide. nobody has ever seen numbers like this for health care. it is only getting worse. in '17 it implodes by itself. their method of fixing it to go moderator: thank you very much for being here. back and ask congress for more we're going to begin with a question from one of the members money, more and more money. in our town hall. we have almost $20 trillion in each of you will have two debt. minutes to respond to this obamacare will never work. question. secretary clinton, you won the coin toss. it is very bad, very bad health so you will go first. insurance. our first question comes from far too expensive and not only expensive for the person that patrice brock. patrice. has it, unbelievably expensive >> thank you and good evening. for our country. it is going to be one of the the last presidential debate biggest line items very shortly. could have been rated as ma, we have to repeal it and replace mature audiences per tv parental guidelines. it with something absolutely knowing educatorasgned to viewing the presidential debates much less expensive and as student's homework do you something that works where your

feel you're modeling appropriate plan can actually be tailored. and positive behavior for today's youth. we have to get rid of the lines clinton: thank you. around the state, artificial are you a teacher? yes. lines where we stop insurance i think that is a very good question because i have heard companies coming in and competing because they wanted, from lots of teachers and president obama and whoever was parents about some of their concerns about some of the working on it, they want to leave those lines because that i things that are being said and was got insurance companies done in this campaign. essentially monopolies. and i think it is very important we want competition. you will have the finest health for us to make clear to our care plan there is. she wants to go to single-payer children that our country really plan which would be disaster, somewhat similar to canada. is great because we're good, and if you ever notice, canadians when they need a big operation, we are going to respect one when something happens they come another, lift each other up. into the united states in many cases. we are going to be looking for because their system is so slow ways to celebrate our diversity. it is, it is catastrophic in certain ways. and we are going to try to reach but she wants to go to out to every boy and girl as single-payer which means the well as every adult to bring government basically rules everything. them in to working on behalf of hillary clinton has been after our country. this for years. i have a very positive and obamacare was the first step. optimistic view about what we can do together. obamacare is a total disaster. that's why the slogan of my and not only are your rates campaign is, stronger together. going up by numbers that nobody because i think if we work

has ever believed, but your together, if we overcome the deductibles are going up. so that unless you get hit by a divisiveness that sometimes sets truck, you're never going to be americans against one another, able to use it. moderator: mr. trump, time. and instead we make some big goals and i have set forth some trump: disasterous plan and has big goals, getting the economy to be repealed and replaced. to work for everyone, not just moderator: secretary clinton, followed follow up with, your those at the top, making sure husband called obamacare craziest thing in the world. that we have the best education small business owners are system from pre-school through getting killed, premiums double, coverage cut in half. college and making it affordable and so much else, we set those was he mistaken or is his mistake telling truth? goals and we go together to try to achieve them. clinton: no he clarified what he meant. there is nothing in my opinion, that america can't do. look, we're in a situation in our country where we were to so that is why i hope that we start all over again we might come up with a different system will come together in this campaign. but we have employer-based system. obviously i'm hoping to earn your vote. that is where the vast majority i'm hoping to be elected in of people get their health care november. and i can promise you i will and the affordable care act was work with every american. meant to try to fill the gap i want to be the president for all americans. between people who were too poor regardless of your political beliefs, where you come from, and couldn't put together any what you look like, your resources to afford health care, religion, i want us to heal our namely people on medicaid. country and bring it together. obviously medicare, which is a because that is i think the best single-payer system which takes way for us to get the future care of our elderly and does a that our children and our

grandchildren deserve. great job doing it, by the way, moderator: secretary clinton. then all the people who were employed but people who were thank you. working but didn't have the mr. trump, you have two minutes. trump: i agree with that. money to afford insurance and i agree with everything she didn't have anybody, an said. i began this campaign because i employer, anybody else to help them. was so tired of seeing such that was swath the obamacare foolish things happen to our country. this is a great country, this is approach was to take. a great land, i have gotten to 20 million people now have health insurance. know the people of the country so if we just rip it up and over the last year-and-a-half throw it away, what donald is that i have been been doing this not telling you we turn it back as a politician. to the insurance companies the i can not believe i'm saying way it used to be. that about myself because i insurance companies get to do guess i have been a politician. pretty much whatever they want, my whole concept was to make america great defend. including i'm sorry, you have when i watch the deals being diabetes, you had cancer, your made, when i watch what's child has asthma. happening some horrible things moderator: your time is up. like obamacare where your health clinton: you might not have insurance and health care is insurance and you can't afford it. going up by numbers that are fix what is broken bit and not throw it all away to give back to the insurance companies. astronomical, 68%, 59%, 71%. that is not going to work. moderator: mr. trump on this -- when i look at the iran deal and trump: just one thing. how bad a deal it is for us. hillary everything is broken about it. it is one-sided transaction number two, bernie sanders said where we're giving back that hillary clinton has very bad judgment.

$150 billion to a terrorist state. this is a perfect example of it. trying to save obamacare which really number one terrorist state. is -- moderator: you said you want to we made them a strong country end obamacare. from a very weak country three you said you want to end years ago. obamacare and make coverage when i look at all of the things accessible for people with preexisting conditions. that i see and potential our how do you force insurance country has, we have such companies to do that if you're tremendous potential whether it no longer mandating -- is in business and trade, where we're doing so badly. trump: you will be able to. moderator: what does that mean? trump: i'll tell you what that last year we had an almost means. 800 billion-dollar trade you will have plans that are so deficit. in other words, trading with good, because you have so much competition in the insurance other countries. industry, once we break out the we had an $800 billion deficit. lines and allow competition to come. that is hard to believe. moderator: are you going to have inconceivable. mandate that americans have to have health insurance? you say who is making these deals? trump: excuse me. we'll make great trade deals. president obama, by keeping we'll have a strong border. those lines, the boundary lines we'll bring back law and order. around each state, it was almost gone until just very toward the just today policeman was shot, two killed and this is happening end of passage of obamacare. on a weekly basis. which by the way was a fraud. you know that. we have to bring back respect to because jonathan gruber, the law enforcement. architect of obamacare, was at same time we have to take said, he said it was a great lie. care of people on all sides. it was a big lie. we need justice. president obama said you keep your doctor, keep your plan. but i want to do things that haven't been done including the whole thing was a fraud and it doesn't work. fixing and making our when we get rid of those lines

you will have competition and we inner-cities better for the african-american citizens that will be able to keep preexisting. are so great and for the latinos we'll be able to help people and hispanics. that can't get, don't have money moderator: mr. trump. because we are going to have trump: i look forward to doing people protected. it, it is called make america great again. and republicans feel this way. moderator: thank you, mr. trump. believe it or not and strongly the question from patrice are this way. you both modeling positive and we'll block grant into the appropriate behaviors for states, we'll block grant into today's youth. medicaid, and into the states so we received a lot of question that we will be able to take online, mr. trump about the tape released on friday. care of people without the necessary funds to take care of you called what you said locker themselves. room banter. moderator: thank you, mr. trump. talked about kissing women moderator: we go to gorba ahmed without their consent. grabbing genitals. that is sex all assault. with a question for both candidates. >> hi. you bragged you sexually there are 3.3 million muslims in assaulted women? the united states and i am one of them. you mentioned working with trump: i didn't say that at all. i don't think what you said. muslim nations but with islamophobia on the rise, how this is locker room talked. will you help people like me i am not proud of it. deal with the consequences of i apologized to my family and i being labeled as a threat to the apologized to the american people. country after the election is i am not proud of it. over? moderator: mr. trump, you're this is locker room talk. first. when you have a world where isis trump: well, you're right about is chopping off heads. islam maybe yaw, that is a -- frankly drowning people in steel islamophobia, that is a shame. cages, where you have wars and

horrible, horrible sights all one thing we have to do is make over, where you have so many bad sure, because there is a problem. things happening this is like i mean whether we like it or medieval times. we haven't seen anything like this. not, we can be very politically correct but whether we like ito. the carnage you will over the world, and look and see, can you we have to be sure that muslims imagine the people that are come in and report when they see frankly doing so well against something going on, when they us, with isis, and they look at see hatred going on have to report it. our country and they see what is as for example, in going on. yes i'm very embarrassed by it, san bernanadino many people saw bombs all over the apartment of i hate it, it is locker room two people that killed 14 and talk. it is one of those things. wounded manying many, people, i will knock the hell out of horribly wounded they will never isis. be the same. we'll defeat isis. isis happened a number of years muslims have to report the problems when they see them. ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. and you know, there is always a and i will tell you, i will take reason for everything. care of isis. if they don't do that, it is very difficult situation for our get on too much more important country. things and much bigger things. moderator: just for the record because you look at orlando, and are you saying what you said on you look at san bernanadino and you look at world trade center. the bus 11 years ago, you did go outside, you look at paris, not actually kiss women without look at that horrible -- these consent or grope women without consent. trump: i have great respect for are radical islamic terrorists women. nobody has more respect for and she won't even mention the women than i do. word, nor will president obama. moderator: for record you never did that? he won't use the term, radical

trump: you hear these things are islamic terrorism. said. and i was embarrassed by it. now to solve a problem you have but i have tremendous respect to be able to state what the for women. moderator: have you ever done problem is or at least say the those things? name. trump: no i have not. she won't say the name and and i will tell you that i'm president obama won't say the going to make our country safe. name but the name is there. we're going to have borders in it is radical islamic terror. our country which we don't have now. people are pouring into our and before you solve it you have country and coming in from the to say the name. middle east and other places. moderator: secretary clinton. we're going to make america safe clinton: thank you for asking again. we'll make america great again your question and i have heard but make america safe again and this question from a lot of we're going to make america wealthy again. muslim-americans across our if you don't do that, it just, country. it sound harsh to say but we have to build up the well of our because unfortunately there has nation right now other nations been a lot of very divisive dark are taking our jobs and they're taking our wealth. things said about muslims. moderator: thank you, mr. trump. trump: that is what i want to talk about. moderator: secretary clinton, do someone like captain khan, the you want to respond? young man sacrificed himself clinton: like everyone else i defending our country in the spent a lot of time thinking united states army has been subject to attack by donald. over last 48 hours about what we i want to say just a couple of heard and saw. things. first, we had muslims in america you know with prior republican since george washington and we nominees for president, i have had many successful disagreed with them on politics, muslims.

we just lost a particularly policies, politics, principles well-known one with mohammed but i never questioned their fitness to serve. ali. donald trump is different. my vision of america is an i said starting back in june america where everyone has a place, if you're willing to work that he was not fit to be president and hard, you do your part, you commander-in-chief. and many republicans and contribute to the community. independents have said the same that is what america is. thing. that is what we want america to be for our children and our grandchildren. what we all saw and heard on it is also very short-sighted and even dangerous to be friday was donald talking about engaging in the kind of demagogic rhetoric that donald women, what he thinks about has about muslims. women, what he does to women, we need american-muslims to be and he has said that the video part of our eyes and ears on our front lines. doesn't represent who he is. i have worked with a lot of different muslim groups around but, i think it's clear to america. i have met with a lot of them anyone who heard it that it and i have heard how important represents exactly who he is. it is for them to feel that they because we've seen this throughout the campaign. are wanted and included and part we have seen him insult women. of our country, part of our homeland security. and that's what i want to see. we've seen him rate women on it is also important, i intend their appearance, ranking them from one to 10. to defeat isis, to do so in a

coalition with majority muslim we've seen him embarass women on nations. tv and on twitter. right now a lot of those nations we saw him after the first are hearing what donald says and debate spend nearly a week wondering, why should we cooperate with the americans? denigrating a former miss and this is a gift to isis and universe in the harshest, most the terrorists. personal terms. violent jihadist terrorists. we are not at war with islam. so yes, this is who donald trump is. but it is not only women and it and it is a mistake and it plays is not only this video that into the hands of the terrorists raises questions about his to act as though we are. fitness to be our president. so i want a country where citizens like you, and your because he has also targeted family, are just as welcome as anyone else. immigrants, african-americans, moderator: thank you, secretary clinton. latinos, people with mr. trump in december you said this, donald j. trump is calling disabilities, p.o.w.s, for a total and complete muslims, and so many others. shut-down of muslims entering so this is who donald trump is. the united states until our country's representatives can the question for us, the figure out what the hell is question our country must going on. we have no choice. we have no choice. answer, is that this is not who your running mate said this week we are. the muslim ban is no longer your that's why to go back to your position. is that correct? question, i want to send a message. and if it is was it a mistake to we all should, to every boy and have a religious test?

girl and indeed to the entire world, that america already is trump: first of all captain khan great but we are great because we are good. is an american hero, if i were president at that time he would and we will respect one another and we will work with one be alive today, but unlike her who voted for the war knowing another, and we will celebrate what she was doing i would not our diversity. have had our people in iraq. these are very important values iraq was a disaster. to me because this is the so you woe have been alive today. america that i know and love. the muslim ban is something that and i can pledge to you tonight that this is the america that i in some form has morphed into a will serve if i'm so fortunate extreme vetting from certain enough to become your president. areas of the world. moderator: we want to get to hillary clinton wants to some questions. allow -- trump: am i allowed to respond to that? moderator: why did it morph into that? i assume i am? no, answer the question. do you still believe. moderator: you can respond to that. trump: why do you interrupt her. trump: it is just words, folks. those words i've been hearing you interresult me all the time? them for many words. moderator: explain whether or not the muslim ban still stands? i heard them when they were running for the senate in new york where hillary was going trump: it calls extreme vetting, to bring back jobs to upstate we're going to areas like syria, new york and she failed. where they're coming in by the i have heard them where hillary is constantly talking about the tens of thousands because of inner cities of our country barack obama and hillary clinton wants to allow a 550% increase which are a disaster

over obama. educationwise, jobwise, safetywise, in every way possible. people are coming into our i'm going to help the african-americans. country like we have no idea who they are, where they're from, i'm going to help the latinos, hispanics. what their feelings about our i am going to help the inner cities. country is, and she wants 550% she has done a terrible job for more. the african-americans. this is going to be the great she wants their vote and she trojan horse of all time. does nothing and then she comes we have enough problems in this country. back four years later. we saw that first-hand when she i believe in building safe zones. i believe in having other people was united states senator. she campaigned where the -- pay for them as an example, gulf states who are not carrying their weight but they have nothing but money. moderator: mr. trump. and take care of people. mr. trump, i want to get to audience online questions. but i don't want to have with all the problems this country trump: she is allowed to do that has, and all the of the problems but i'm not allowed to respond. that you see going on, hundreds moderator: you will get a chance of thousands of people coming in to respond now. from syria when we know nothing this tape is generating intense about them. interest. we know nothing about their values. in 48 hours it has become the we know nothing about their love single most-talked about story for our country. of the entire 2016 election on moderator: secretary clinton, facebook, with millions and let me ask you about that. millions of people discussing it on the social network. because you have asked for an increase from 10 to 65,000 as we said moment ago we do want to bring in questions from syrian refugees. voters around the country via we know you want tougher social media and our first stays vetting.

on this topic, just be yes from that is not a perfect system. so why take the risk of having those refugees come into the ohio, asks on facebook, trump country? clinton: well, first of all i says campaigned changed him. will not let anyone into our when did that happen? country i think poses a risk to us but there are a lot of when you walked off that bus at refugees, women and children, age 59, were awe different man or did that behavior continue think of that picture we all saw until just recently? that 4-year-old boy with the and you have two minutes. blood on his forehead because he trump: i told you that was locker room talk. had been bombed by the russian i am not proud of it. and syrian air forces. i am a person who has great respect for people, for my there are children suffering in family, for the people of this country, and certainly i'm not this catastrophic war, largely i proud of it but that was believe because of russian aggression. something that happened. and we need to do our part. if you look at bill clinton, far we by no means are carrying worse, mine are words and his anywhere near the load that was action. what he has done to women. europe and others are. there has never been anybody in the history of politics in this but we will have vetting that is nation that has been so abusive as tough as it needs to be from to women. our professionals, from our so, you can say anyway you want intelligence experts and others. to say it but bill clinton was abusive to women. but it is important for us as a hillary clinton attacked those

same women and attacked them policy, you know, not to say as viciously. four of them here tonight. donald has said, we're going to ban people based on a religion. one of the women who is a how do you do that? wonderful woman at 12 years old we are a country founded on religious freedom and liberty. was raped at 12. her client, she represented got how do we do what he has him off and she is seen laughing on two separate occasions advocated without causing great laughing at the girl who was raped. distress within our own country? cathy shelton, that young woman are we going to have religious is here with us tonight. tests when people fly into our country? so, don't tell me about words. and how do we expect to be able i am absolutely, i apologized implement those? for those words. so i thought that what he said was extremely unwise, and even but it is things that people say. but what president clinton did, dangerous. he was impeached. and indeed you can look at the he lost his license to practice law. he had to pay an 850,000-dollar propaganda on a lot of the terrorist sites and what fine to one of the women. donald trump says about muslims paula jones, who is also here is used to recruit fighters tonight. and i will tell you that, when because they want to create a hillary brings up a point like that, and she talks about words war between us. that i said 11 years ago, i and the final thing i would say, this is 10th or 12th think it is disgraceful and i time he denied being for the war

think she should be ashamed of in iraq. we have it on tape. herself if you want to know the truth. the entire press corps has [applause] looked at it. moderator: please hold the applause. it has been debunked him from secretary clinton, you have two saying. minutes. clinton: first, let me start by trump: has not been debunked. saying that so much of what he >> go to hillaryclinton.com you can see it. just said is not right but he trump: i was against the war in gets to run his campaign anyway he chooses. iraq and it has not been he gets to decide what he wants debunked. you voted for it and shouldn't to talk about, instead of answering people's questions, have. moderator: i want to get online talking about our agenda, laying question. trump: she went 25 seconds out plans that we have we think overtime. can i respond. can make a better life and a better country. moderator: she did not. that is his choice. trump: can i respond? moderator: please. when i hear something like that trump: we have many criminal illegal aliens. i am reminded of what my friend when we want to send them back to their country, their country michelle obama advised us all. says we don't want them. some cases murderers, drug when they go low, you go high. lords, drug problems. [applause] they don't want them. hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. that is okay. we can't force it into their country. and, look, if this were just i will force them right back into their country. about one video, maybe what he and there are murderers and very isbe bad people. i will tell you very strongly understandable. when bernie sanders said she had bad judgment.

she has really bad judgment. but everyone can draw their own conclusions at this point about we are letting people into this whether or not the man in the country that are going to cause video or the man on the stage problems and crime like you have never seen. respects women. we're also letting drugs pour through our southern border at a record clip. but he never apologized for anything to anyone. at a record clip. and it shouldn't be allowed to he never apologized to mr. and mrs. khan, the gold star family, happen. i.c.e. just endorsed me. they have never endorsed a presidential candidate. whose son, captain khan died in border patrol agents, 16,500 the line of duty in iraq and recently endorsed me. donald insulted and attacked they endorsed me because i understand the border. she doesn't. them for weeks over their religion. she wants amnesty for everybody, he never apologized to the come right in, come right over. distinguished federal judge who it is a horrible thing she is doing. was born in indiana, but donald she has got bad judgment and honestly. so bad that she should never be said he couldn't be trusted to president of the united states. that i can tell you. be a judge because his parents moderator: thank you, mr. trump. i want to move on. were quote, mexican. this next question comes from he never apologized to the the public through the bipartisan open debate reporter that he mimicked and coalition's online forum where mocked on national television americans submitted questions and our children were watching. that generated millions of votes. this question involves wikileaks and he never apologized for the

racist lie that president obama was not born in the united releases purported excerpts of states of america. secretary clinton's paid he owes e esident an speeches she refused to release apology. and one line in particular, you, he owes our country an apology secretary clinton, purportedly and he needs to take responsibility for his actions say you need both a public and and his words. private position on certain trump: well you owe the issues. so too, from virginia asks, is president an apology, as you it okay for politicians to be two-faced? know, your own campaign, sidney is it anticipatable for a blumenthal he is another real politician to have private winner you have that got this stance on issues? started along with your campaign secretary clinton, your two minutes. manager and they were on television just two weeks ago, clinton: right, as i recall, she was saying exactly that. so you really owe him an that was something i said about apology. you're the one that sent pictures around your campaign. abraham lincoln after having sent pictures around with seen the wonderful president obama in a certain garb. steven spielberg movie called lincoln. that was long before i ever involved. so you actually owe an apology. it was a master class watching number two, michelle obama, i president lincoln get the have gotten to see the congress to approve the 13th amendment. commercials that they did on you. and i got to sigh some of the it was principled and it was strategic. most vicious commercials i have ever seen of michelle obama and i was making the point that talking about you, hillary. it is hard sometimes to get the

congress to do what you want to so, you talk about friend, go do and you have to keep working at it. back and take a look at those commercials. and yes, president lincoln was a race where you lost. trying to convince some people, fair and square unlike the he used some arguments, corn bernie sanders race where you vinceing other people he used other arguments. won but not fair and square in my opinion. that is was a great, i thought a and all you have to do is take a look at wikileaks see what they great display of presidential said about bernie sanders and leadership. but you know, let's talk about see what debbie what is really going on here, wasserman schultz had in mind martha, because, our because bernie sanders between superdelegates and debbie intelligence community just came wasserman schultz, he never had a chance. out and said in the last few i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil. days that the kremlin, meaning but when you talk about apology, putin and russian government, i think the one that you should be apologizing for and the thing are directing the attacks, the that you should be apologizing hacking on american accounts to for are the 33,000 emails that influence our election, and you deleted and that you acid wikileaks is part of that as are washed and then the two boxes of other sites where the russians emails and other things last hack information. week, that were taken from an we don't even know if it is accurate information and than office and are now missing. and i'll tell you what. they put it out. i didn't think i would say this we have never in the history of but i'm going to say it. and i hate to say it. our country been in a situation where an adversary, a foreign

but if i win, i am going to instruct my attorney general to power, is working so hard to influence the outcome of the get a special prosecutor, to election, and believe me, look into your situation. they're not doing it to get me elected. because there has never been so they're doing it to try to influence the election for many lies, so much deception, donald trump. there has never been anything like this are it. now maybe because he has praised putin. and we're going to have a special prosecutor. maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what putin wants when i speak i go out and speak, to do, maybe because he wants to the people of this country are furious. do business in moscow, i don't know the reasons but we deserve in my opinion, the people that have been long-term workers at answers and we should demand fbi are furious. that donald release all of his there has never been anything tax returns so that people can like this where emails and you get a subpoena, you get a see what are the entanglements subpoena and after getting the and financial relationships -- subpoena, you delete 33,000 moderator: we'll get to that later. emails. secretary clinton, you're out of time. and then you acid wash them or trump: i think i should respond bleach them as you would say, so ridiculous. very expensive process. so we're going to get a special look, now she is blaming, she prosecutor and we're going to look into it, because you know got caught in a total lie. what? her papers went out to all her people have been, their lives friends at banks, goldman sachs, have been destroyed for doing everybody else and she said 1/5 of with what you have done. things through wikileaks just came out and she lied. it is disgrace. honestly you awed to be ashamed of yourself. now she is blaming the lie on the late great, abraham lincoln.

moderator: i will let you follow up. clinton: everything he just said is absolutely false. that is one that i -- okay. trump: really? honest abe, never lied. that is the big difference between abraham lincoln and you. moderator: audience needs -- that is a big, big difference. clinton: i was told it would be impossible to fact-checking we're talking about some donald all the time. difference. i would never get talking about anything i want to do and how we but, as far as other elements of what she was saying. really make lives bitter for people. i don't know putin. once againo so hillary i think great we get along with hillaryclinton.com. russia fight isis as exam we have trump and fact check him in real time. last time at the first debate we had millions of people fact-checking. so i expect we'll have millions example. she doesn't know if the russians more fact-checking because you is doing hacking. the reason they blame russia know, it is, it is just awfully because they think they're good that someone with the trying to tarnish me with russia. temperment of donald trump is i know nothing about russia. i know about russia but i know not in charge of the law. trump: because you would be in nothing about the inner works of russia. i have no businesses. jail. [shouting] i have no loans from russia. i have a very grat balance sheet, so great when i did the moderator: secretary clinton -- moderator: we want to remind the old post office on pennsylvania avenue the united states government, because of audience please not talk out loud.

please not applaud. balance sheet they know very you're wasting time. well to do the old post office moderator: secretary clinton i want to follow up on emails. between the white house and congress. you said handling of e-mails was a mistake. chose me to do the old post offices. you disagreed with fbi director one of the primary things, perhaps the primary thing was balance sheet. james comey calling your handling of classified but i have no loans with russia. information quote, extremely careless. you could go to the united states government and they would the fbi said there were 110 probably tell you that. classified emails exchanged. because they know my sheet very eight of which were top secret well in order to get that development. and possible hostile actors i had to v now the taxes are gained access to those emails. very simple thing. you don't call that extremely careless? as soon as, first of all i pay clinton: martha, first let me hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. say, i said it before, but i many of her friends took bigger will repeat it because i want everyone to hear it. deductions. that was a mistake and i take warren buffett took a massive responsibility for using a deduction. soros who is friend of hers, personal email account. took a massive deduction. obviously if i were to do it over again i would not. many of people giving her all i'm not making any excuses. this money she can do many more it was a mistake. commercials than me take massive and i am very sorry about that deductions. i pay hundreds of millions of but i think it is also important dollars in taxes but, but, soon as my routine audit finished i to point out where there are will release my returns. some misleading accusations from i will be very proud to. critics and others. moderator: turn to topic of taxes. after a year-long investigation, question from spencer moss.

there is no evidence that anyone spencer? hacked the server i was using, >> good evening. my question is, what specific and there is no evidence that tax provisions will you change to insure the wealthiest americans pay their fair share anyone can point to at all, in taxes? anyone who says otherwise has no moderator: mr. trump, you have basis, that any classified two minutes. material ended up in the wrong hands. trump: first thing i do is get rid of carried interest, one of i take classified material very seriously. the greatest provisions for d, always have when i was on the senate armed services people like me, to be honest committee. with you, i give up a lot when i i was privy to a lot of classified material. run, i knock out the tax code. she could have done this years ago. obviously as secretary of state. she was a united states senator. she complains donald trump took i had some of the most important advantage of the tax code. secrets that we possess such as why didn't she change it? going after bin laden. why didn't you change it as a senator? the reason you didn't because so i am very committed to taking classified information seriously all your friends take same advantage i do. and as i said. you have provisions in the tax code we could frankly change. there is no evidence that any you couldn't change it because classified information ended up all of these people give you in the wrong hands. moderator: we'll move on. money so you can take negative trump: and yet she didn't know ads on donald trump. but and i say that about a lot of things. the word, the letter "c" on a i have heard hillary complaining document, right. about so many different things she didn't even know what that over the years, i wish you had word, what that letter meant. done that she has been there for 30 years.

you know it is amazing i'm she has been doing this stuff. watching hillary go over facts she never changed and she never will change. we're getting rid of carried interest provisions. i'm lowering taxes actually because i think it is so important for corporations because we have corporations leaving, massive corporations, and little ones, little ones can't form. we're getting rid of regulations which goes hand in hand with lowering of taxes but we're bringing tax rate down from 35% to 15%. we're cutting taxes for the middle class. i will tell you, we are cutting them big league for the middle class. and i wi tell you hillary clinton is raising your taxes folks. you can look at me. she is raising your taxes. really high. and what that is going to do is a disaster for the country. but she is raising your taxes and i'm lowering your taxes. that in itself the big difference. we're going to be thriving again. we have no growth in this country. there is no growth. if china has gdp of 7%, it is like national catastrophe, we're down to 1% and that is like no

growth. we're going lower in my opinion. and a lot of it has to do with the fact that our taxes are so high. just about the highest in the world. and i'm bringing them down to one of lower in the world. and i think it is so important. one of the most important things we can do. but she is raising everybody's taxes massive live. moderator: secretary clinton you have two minutes. question what specific tax provisions to change to insure wealthiest americans pay fair share of taxes? clinton: everything you heard from donald is not true. i'm sorry i have to keep saying this. he lives in alternative reality. and it is sort of amusing to hear somebody who hasn't paid federal income taxes in maybe 20 years talking about what he is boeing to do. i tell you what he is going to do. his plan will give the wealthy and corporations the biggest tax cuts they have ever had. more than the bush tax cuts by at least a factor of two. donald always takes care of

donald and people like donald and this would be a massive gift. and indeed, the way that he talks about his tax cuts would end up raising taxes on middle class families, millions of middle class families. here is what i want to do. i have said nobody who makes less than $250,000 a year, and that is the vast majority of e their taxes raised because i think we've got to go where the money is. the money is with people who have taken advantage of every single break in the tax code. yes, when i was a senator i did vote to close corporate loopholes. i voted to close, i think one of the loopholes he took advantage of when he claim ad billion dollar loss that enabled him to avoid paying taxes. i want to have a tax on people who are making a million dollars. it is called the "buffett rule." yes, warren buffett is one who has gone out somebody like him should not pay a lower tax rate than his secretary.

i want to have a surcharge on incomes above 5 million. we have to make up for lost time because i want to invest in you. i want to invest in hard-working families. and i think it's been unfortunate but it's happened since the great recession the gains have gone all to the top. and we need to rever that. people like donald who paid zero in taxes, zero for our vets, zero for our military, zero for health and education, that is wrong. moderator: thank you. >> we'll make sure maybe, no corporation and no individual can get away without paying his fair share for our country. moderator: mr. trump, give you a chance to respond. tell viewers what she is riverring to, taxes were number one on issue in facebook first time in the campaign. "new york times" published three pages of your 1995 tax returns. they showed you claim ad $965 million loss, you could have avoided paying personal federal income taxes for years. you pay state taxes employee

taxes, property taxes, you have nod answered simple question. did you lose 965 million-dollar loss to avoid paying personal income taxes. trump: of course i do. so do her donors. her donors did a lot of writeoffs. miriest office are personal depreciation they allowed. i understand the tax code better than anybody ever run for president. hillary clinton and extremely complex, hillary clinton has friends that want all of these provisions including, they want carried interest provision which is very important to wall street people. they really want the carried interest provision which i believe hillary is leaving. very interesting why she is leaving carried interest. number one i pay tremendous numbers about taxes. i absolutely used it. so did warren buffett and so did

george soros and so did many of the other people that hillary is getting money from. now, i won't mention their names, because they're rich but they're not famous. so we won't make them famous. moderator: can you say how many years you have avoided paying personal federal income taxes. trump: no, but i pay federal tax too. i have a lot of writeoff. a writeoff of depreciation. that is wonderful charge. she has given it to us. if she had a problem for 30 years she has been doing this anderson, i say it all the time. talks about health care. why didn't she do something about it? she talks about taxes why didn't she do something about it? she doesn't do anything about anything other than talk. with her it is all talk and no action. and again, bernie sanders, it is really bad judgment. she has made bad judgment and not only on taxes, she has made bad judgments on libya, syria, iraq. her and obama, whether you like it or not, the way they got out of iraq, the vacuum they have

left that is why isis formed in the first place. they started from that little area and now they're in 32 different nations hillary. congratulations. great job. . moderator: want you to be able to respond, secretary clinton. clinton: well, here we go again, i've been in favor of getting rid of carried interest for years, starting when i was a senator from new york. but that's not the point here. trump: why didn't you do that? moderator: let her respond. clinton: because i was a senator with a republican president. trump: really? you could have done it. if you were an effective senator, you could have done it. if you were an effective senator, you could have done it. moderator: she's allowed to respond, she didn't interrupt you. clinton: under our constitution, presidents have something called veto power. look, he has said repeatedly 30 years this, 30 years that. let me talk about my 30 years in public service. i'm very glad to do so. 8 million kids, every year,

have health insurance because when i was first lady, i worked with democrats and republicans to create the children's health insurance program. hundreds of thousands of kids now have a chance to be adopted because i worked to change our adoption and foster care system. after 9/11, i went to work with republican mayor, governor and president to rebuild new york and to get health care for our first responders who are suffering because they had run toward danger and gotten sickened by it. hundreds of thousands of national guard and reserve members have health care because of work they did, and children have safer medicines because i was able to pass a law required to have dosing more carefully done. when i was secretary of state, i went around the world, advocating for our country, but also advocating for women's rights, to make sure that women had a decent chance to have a better life, and negotiated a treaty with russia to lower

nuclear weapons. 400 pieces of legislation have my name on it, as a sponsor or cosponsor when i was a senator for eight years. i worked very hard and was very proud to be re-elected in new york by an even bigger margin than elected the first time, and as president, i will take that work, that bipartisan work, that finding common ground because you have to be able to get along with people to get things done in washington. moderator: thank you, secretary. clinton: and i've proven they can. and for 30 years, i produced results for people. moderator: we're going to move onto syria. both of you mentioned that -- trump: she said a lot of things, i think we need to peel it out. it's a disaster. moderator: we are going to move on. the heart-breaking video of a five-year-old boy after being pulled from the rubble after airstrike in aleppo focused the world's attention on the horrors of the war in syria.

with 136 million views on facebook alone. but there are much worse images coming out of aleppo every day now where in the past few weeks alone, 400 people have been killed, at least 100 of them children. just days ago, the state department called for a war crimes investigation of the syrian regime of bashar al-assad, and its ally, russia. for bombardment of aleppo. so this next question comes from social media through facebook. diane from pennsylvania asks, if you were president, what would you do about syria, and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo? isn't it a lot like the holocaust when the u.s. waited too long before we helped? secretary clinton, we will begin with your two minutes. clinton: well, the situation in syria is catastrophic, and every day that goes by, we see the results of the regime by assad in partnership with the

iranians on the ground, the russians in the air. bombarding places, in particular, aleppo, where there are hundreds of thousands of people probably about 250,000 still left, and there is a determined effort by the russian air force to destroy aleppo, in order to eliminate the last of the syrian rebels who are really holding out against the assad regime. russia hasn't paid any attention to isis. they're interested in keeping assad in power. so i, when i was secretary of state, advocated and i advocate today a no-fly zone and safe zones. we need some leverage with the russians because they're not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution unless there is some leverage over them. and we have to work more closely with our partners and

allies on the ground. but i want to emphasize that what is at stake here is the ambitions and the aggressiveness of russia. russia has decided that it's all-in, in syria, and they've also decided who they want to see become the president of the united states, and it's not me. i've stood up to russia, i've taken on putin and others, i would do that as president. i think wherever we can cooperate with russia, that's fine, and i did as secretary of state. that's how we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons, it's how we got the sanctions on iran that put a lid on the iranian nuclear program without firing a single shot. so i would go to the negotiating table with more leverage than we have now. but i do support the effort to investigate for crimes, war crimes committed by the syrians and the russians and try to hold them accountable. moderator: thank you, secretary clinton. mr. trump.

trump: first of all as secretary of state with the line in the sand. clinton: no, i wasn't, i was gone, i hate to interrupt you. trump: excuse me. excuse me, you were in total contact with the white house, and perhaps sadly obama probably still listened to you, i don't think i would listen to you very much anymore. obama draws the line in the sand. it was laughed at all over the world what happened. with that being said. she talks tough against russia, but our nuclear program has fallen way behind, and they've gone wild with their nuclear program, not good. our government shouldn't have allowed that to happen. russia is new in terms of nuclear. we're old, tired, exhausted in terms of nuclear. a very bad thing. she talk tough, she talks really tough against putin, and against assad. she talks in favor of the rebels. she doesn't even know who the rebels are. every time we take rebels, whether it's in iraq or

anywhere else, we're arming people. and you know what happens? they end up being worse than the people. look at what she did in libya with gadhafi. gadhafi is out, it's a mess, by the way, isis has a good chunk of their oil, i'm sure you heard that. it was a disaster. the fact is almost everything she's done in foreign policy has been a mistake and a disaster. if luke at russia, just take a look at russia and look at what she did this week where, i agree she wasn't there but possibly consulted. we signed a peace treaty, everyone is excited. what russia did with assad, and iran who you made powerful with the dumbest deal, the iran deal with $150 billion, with the 1.7 billion in cash which is enough cash to fill up this room, but look at that deal, iran now and russia are now against us. so she wants to fight, she wants to fight for rebels. there's only one problem, you

don't know who the rebels are. moderator: mr. trump, your two minutes is up. trump: i don't like assad at all, but assad is killing isis. russia is killing isis, and iran is killing isis, and those three have lined up because of our weak foreign policy. moderator: mr. trump, let me repeat the question. if you were president -- [laughter]. moderator: what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo and i want to remind you what your running mate said. he said provocations by russia need to be met with american strength and that if russia continues to be involved in airstrikes along with the syrian government forces of assad, the united states of america should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the assad regime. trump: okay, he and i haven't spoken, and i disagree. moderator: you disagree with your running mate. trump: i would knock out isis. right now syria is fighting

isis. we have people that want to fight both at the same time. syria is no longer syria, it's russia and iran who she made strong and kerry and obama, made into a powerful and rich nation, very, very quickly, very, very quickly. i believe we have to get isis. we have to worry about isis before we can get too much more involved. she had a chance to do something with syria. they had a chance. and that was the line. moderator: what do you think will happen if aleppo falls? trump: i think aleppo is a disaster. moderator: what will you do if it falls? >> it basically has fallen. look at mosul. basic thing i have with the stupidity of mosul, we have announcements coming out of washington and iraq, we'll be attacking mosul in three or four week. all of the bad leaders from isis are leaving mosul. why can't they do it quietly?

why can't they do the attack, make it a sneak attack and after the attack is made, informed american public that we've knocked out the leaders. we've had a tremendous success. people leave. why do they have to say we're going to be attacking mosul within the next four to six weeks, which is what they're saying. how stupid is our country? moderator: there are sometimes reason the military does that. trump: i can't think of any. i can't think of any. we had general flynn and we had -- look, i had 200 generals and admirals who endorsed me. i have 21 congressional medal of honor recipients who endorse me. we talk about it all the time. they understand. why can't they do something secretively? where they go in and they knock out the leadership? why would these people stay there? i've been reading there -- trump: tell me what your strategy is. trump: mosul is the harbor of where between raqaa and mosul, this is where they think the

isis leaders are. why would they be staying? they're not staying there anymore, they're gone. because everybody is talking about how iraq, which is us with our leadership, goes into fight mosul. now, with the 200 admirals and generals, they can't believe it. all i say is this. general george patton, general douglas macarthur are spinning in their grave at the stupidity of the middle east. moderator: i'm going to go to secretary clinton. secretary clinton, you want assad to go, you advocated arming rebels but looks like it's too late for aleppo, you talk about diplomatic efforts, those have failed, cease-fires have failed. would you introduce the threat of u.s. military force beyond a no-fly zone against the assad regime to back up diplomacy? clinton: i would not use american ground forces in syria. i think that would be a very serious mistake. i don't think american troops

should be holding territory which is what they would have to do as an occupying force. i don't think that is a smart strategy. i do the think the use of special forces, the use of enablers and trainers in iraq which has had some positive effect are very much in our interest. so i do support what is happening. moderator: what would you do differently than president obama is doing? clinton: martha, i hope that by the time -- trump: everything. clinton: i hope by the time i am president that we will have pushed isis out of iraq. i do think that there is a good chance that we can take mosul, and, you know, donald says he knows more about isis than the generals. no, he doesn't. there are a lot of very important planning going on, and some of it is to signal to the sunnis in the area as well as kurdish peshmerga fighters that we all need to be in this,

that takes a lot of planning and preparation. i would go after baghdadi, i would specifically target baghdadi, i think our targeting of al qaeda leaders, and i was involved in a lot of those operations, highly classified ones, made a difference. so i think that could help. i would also consider arming the kurds. the kurds have been our best partners in syria as well as iraq, and i know there's a lot of concern about that in some circles, but i think they should have the equipment they need so kurdish and arab fighters on the ground are the principal way that we take raqaa after pushing isis out of iraq. moderator: thank you very much, we're going to move on. trump: she went over a minute over and you don't stop her. when i go over -- moderator: you had many answers. a question from james carter. mr. carter?

>> my question is, do you believe you can be a devoted president to all the people in the united states? moderator: that question begins for mr. trump. trump: absolutely. i mean, she calls our people deplorable. a large group, and irredeemable. i will be a president for all of our people, and i will be a president that will turn our inner cities nd, and will give strength to people, and will give economics to people, and will bring jobs back because nafta, signed by her husband is the greatest disaster, trade deal in the history of the world. not of this country. it stripped us of manufacturing jobs. we lost our jobs, we lost our money, we lost our plants. it is a disaster. now she wants to sign tpp, now she says she's for it, she

called it the gold standard. at last debate she lied, turns out she did say the gold standard, and she said she didn't say it. they actually said she lied, and she lied, she's lied about a lot of things. i would be a president for all of the people, african-americans, the inner cities, devastating what's happening to our inner cities. she's been talking about it for years, as usual, she talks about, it nothing happens. she doesn't get it done. same with the latino-americans. the hispanic-americans, the same exact thing, they talks, they don't get it done. you go into the inner cities 45% poverty. african-americans now 45% poverty in the inner cities. the education is a disaster. jobs are essentially nonexistent. i mean, it's -- you know, and i've been saying big speeches where i have 20,000 and 30,000 people, what do you have to lose?

it can't get any worse. and she's been talking about the inner cities for 25 years. nothing is going to ever happen. let me tell you, if she's president of the united states, nothing is going to happen, it's going to be talk. and all of herfriends, the taxes we are talking about. i would get it by osmosis, she's not doing me favors, by doing all the others favors, she's doing me favors. i will tell you she's all talk, it doesn't get done. take a look at her senate run, take a look at upstate new york. moderator: two minutes are up. secretary clinton, you have two minutes, secretary clinton. clinton: well, 67% of the people voted to re-elect me for my second term and i was proud and humbled by that. mr. carter, i have tried my entire life to do what i can to support children and families. you know, right out of law school, i went to work for the children's defense fund. and donald talks about the 30

years i've been in public service. i'm proud of that. i started off as a young lawyer, working against discrimination against african-american children and schools and in the criminal justice system. i worked to make sure that kids with disabilities could get a public education. something they care very much about. i have worked with latinos, one of my first jobs in politics was down in south texas, registering latino citizens to be able to vote. so i have a deep devotion to use your absolutely correct word, to making sure that every american feels like he or she has a place in our country, and i think when you look at the letters that i get, a lot of people are worried that maybe they wouldn't have a place in donald trump's america. they write me, and one woman wrote me about her son felix, she adopted him from ethiopia when he was a toddler.

he's 10 years old now, the only country he's ever known, and listening to donald on tv and said to his mother, will he send me back to ethiopia when he's elected? children listen to what's being said, to go back to the very, very first question, and there's a lot of fear. in fact teachers and parents are calling it the trump effect. bullying is up, a lot of people are feeling uneasy. a lot of kids are expressing their concerns, so first and foremost, i will do everything i can to reach out to everybody, democrats, republicans, independents, people across our country. if you don't vote for me, i still want to be your president. moderator: your two minutes is up. clinton: the best president i can be for every american. moderator: two minutes is up. something donald trump said to you, a comment you made last month. you said half of donald trump's supporters are deplorables, racist, islamophobic, you didn't express regret for using

the term deplorables, to mr. carter's question, how can you unite a country if you've written off tens of millions of americans? clinton: within half hour, i said i was sorry i talked about that, my argument is not with supporters, it's with him, and the hateful and divisive campaign he has run and the inciting of violence at his rallies, and the very brutal kinds of comments about not just women, but all americans, all kinds of americans. and what he has said about african-americans and latinos, about muslims, about p.o.w.'s, about immigrants, about people with disabilities, he's never apologized for. and so i do think that a lot of the tone and tenor that he has set, i'm proud of the campaign bernie sanders and i ran. we ran a campaign based on issues not insults, he is supporting me 100%, we talked

about what we wanted to, do we might have had differences and h a lot of debate, but we believed we could make the country better, and i was proud of that. moderator: give you a minute. trump: we have a divided nation, we have a very divided nation, you look at charlotte, you look at baltimore, you look at violence taking place in the inner cities, chicago. you take a look at washington, d.c. we have an increase in murder with inner cities, the biggest in 45 years. we have a divided nation because people like her, and believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart, and when she said deplorables, she meant it, and when she said irredeemable, they're irredeemable, you didn't mention that. when she said irredeemable, that might have been worse. moderator: she said some of them are irredeemable. trump: tremendous hatred, this country cannot take another four years of barack obama,

that's what you're getting with her. moderator: mr. trump, follow up with you. you wrote in one of your books, the most important characteristic of a good leader is discipline, if a leader doesn't have it, quote, he or she won't be one very long. you sent out a series of tweets from 3:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. including one that told people to check out a sex tape. trump: no, it was looking at person she built up to be this wonderful girl scout, who was no girl scout. just so you understand, when she said 3:00 in the morning, take a look at benghazi, she said who's going to answer the call at 3:00 in the morning. she didn't answer because when ambassador stevens, 600 times, she said she was awake at 3:00 in the morning. she sent a tweet out at 3:00 in the morning, i won't mention that. guess what happened? ambassador stevens, ambassador stevens sent 600 requests for

help, and the only one she talked to was sidney blumenthal, who's her friend, and not a good guy, by the way. so she shouldn't be talking about that. now, tweeting happens to be a modern-day form of communication. i mean you can like it or not like it. i have between facebook and twitter, i have almost 25 million people, it's a very effective way of communication, so you can put it down but it is a very effective form of communication. i'm not unproud of it, to be honest with you. moderator: secretary clinton, does mr. trump have the discipline to be a good leader? clinton: no. trump: i'm shocked to hear that. [ laughter ] >> it's not only my opinion, it's the opinion of many others. national security experts, republicans, former republican members of congress, but it's in part because those of us who have had the great privilege of seeing this job upclose and know how difficult it is, and

it's not difficult because i watched my husband take a $300 billion deficit and turn it into a $200 billion surplus, and 23 million new jobs were created and incomes went up for everybody. everybody. african-american incomes went up 33%. and it's not just because i worked with george w. bush after 9/11, and i was very proud that when i told him what the city needed, what we needed to recover, he said you got it, and never waivered. he stuck with me, and i have worked and i admire president obama. he inherited the worst financial crisis since the great depression. that was a terrible time for our country. moderator: we have novalong. secretary clinton, we have to -- clinton: $13 trillion in family wealth was wiped out. we are back on the right track. he would send us back into recession with his tax plans. moderator: secretary clinton, we are moving to an audience

question. trump: we have the slowest growth -- moderator: mr. trump, moving to an audience question. trump: since 1929. moderator: we are moving to an audience question and want to get to the audience. thank you very much, both of you. [ laughter ] >> another audience question, beth miller has a question for both candidates. >> good evening. perhaps the most important aspect of this election is the supreme court justice. what would you prioritize as the most important aspect of selecting a supreme court justice? moderator: we begin with your two minutes, secretary clinton. clinton: thank you, you're right, this is one of the most important issues in this election. i want to appoint supreme court justices who understand the way the world really works, who have real life experience, who have not just been in a big law firm and maybe clerked for a judge and gotten on the bench, but maybe they tried some more cases. they actually understand what people are up against because i

think the current court has gone in the wrong direction, and so i would want to see the supreme court reverse citizens united, and get dark unaccountable money out of our politics. donald trump doesn't agree with that. voting rights are a big problem in many parts of our country, that we don't always do everything we can to make it possible for people of color and older people and young people to be able to exercise their franchise. i want a supreme court that will stick with roe v. wade and a woman's right to choose, and a supreme court that will stick with marriage equality. now donald has put forth the names of some people he would consider. and among the ones that he has suggested are people who would reverse roe v. wade and reverse marriage equality. that would be a terrible mistake and take us backwards. i want a supreme court that doesn't always side with

corporate interests. i want a supreme court that understands because you're wealthy and can you give more money to something, doesn't mean you have any more rights or should have any more rights than anybody else. i have very clear views about what i want to see to change the balance on the supreme court, and i regret deeply that the senate has not done its job, and they have not permitted a vote on the person president obama, a highly qualified person, they've not given him a vote to be able to have the full complement of nine supreme court justices, that was a dereliction of duty. i hope that they will see their way to doing it, but if i am so fortunate as to be president, i will immediately move to make sure that we fill that. we have nine justices -- moderator: thank you, secretary clinton. clinton: work on behalf of the people. moderator: thank you, mr. trump. trump: justice scalia, great judge, died recently, and we have a vacancy.

i am looking to appoint judges very much in the mold of justice scalia. i'm looking for judges, and i've actually picked 20 of them. so that people would see. highly respected. highly thought of and actually very beautifully reviewed by just about everybody, but people that will respect the constitution of the united states, and i think that this is so important. also the 2nd amendment which is totally under siege by people like hillary clinton, they'll respect the 2nd amendment and what it stands for and represents. so important to me. hillary mentioned something about contributions, just so you understand. i will have in my race, more than $100 million put of my money. meaning i'm not taking all of this big money from all of the different corporations like she's doing. i'm putting in more so by the

time it's finished i'll have more than $100 million invested. pretty much self-funding mine, raising money for the republican party and doing tremendously on the small donations, $61 average or so. i ask hillary, why doesn't she make $250 million by being in office? she used the power of her office to make a lot of money. why isn't she funding not 100 million? or put 10 or 20 or 25 or $30 million into your campaign. it's $30 million less for special interest that will tell you exactly what to do, and be a nice sign to the american public. why aren't you putting money in. you've made a lot of it because of the fact that you've been in office. you made a lot of it while you were secretary of state, actually. so why aren't you putting money into your own campaign. just curious? moderator: thank you very much, we're going to get onto one more question. clinton: the question is about the supreme court, and i want to say, i respect the 2nd amendment but i believe there

should be comprehensive background checks and we should close the gun show loophole and close the online loophole. moderator: we have one more question, mrs. clinton. clinton: as we possibly can. moderator: one more question from ken bone about energy policy. ken? >> what steps will your energy policy make to meet our energy needs while statement remaining environmentally friendly and eliminating job loss for fossil fuel workers? trump: such a great question, energy surround siege by the obama administration, under absolute siege. the epa, environmental protection agency is killing these energy companies, and foreign companies are now coming in buying our -- buying so many of our different plants and rejiggering the plant so they can take care of their oil. we are killing, absolutely killing our energy business in this country. now i'm all for alternative forms of energy, including

wind, including solar, et cetera, but we need much more than wind and sole aand you look at our miners. hillary clinton wants to put all the miners out of business. there is a thing called clean coal. coal will last for a thousand years in this country. now we have natural gas and so many other things because of technology, we have unbelievable -- we have found over the last seven years, we have found tremendous wealth under our feet. so good. especially when have you 20 trillion in debt. i will bring our energy companies back. they'll be able to compete. they'll make money, they'll pay off our national debt. they'll pay off our tremendous budget deficits, which are tremendous, but we are putting our energy companies out of business. we have to bring back our workers. you take a look what's happening to steel and the cost of steel and china dumping vast amounts of steel all over the united states, which

essentially is killing our steel workers and our steel companies. we have to guard our energy companies. we have to make it possible. the epa is so restrictive that they're putting our energy companies out of business, and all you have to do is go to a great place like west virginia or places like ohio which is phenomenal or places like pennsylvania and you see what they're doing to the people, miners and others in the energy business, it's a disgrace. moderator: time is up. secretary clinton, two minutes? >> well, that was very interesting. first of all, china is illegally dumping steel in the united states and donald trump is buying it to build his buildings. putting steelworkers and american steel plants out of business. that's something they fought against as a senator, and i would have a trade prosecutor to make sure that we don't get

taken advantage of by china, on steel or anything else. you know because it sounds like you're in the business or you're aware of people in the business. you know that we are now for the first time ever energy independent. we are not dependent upon the middle east, but the middle east still controls a lot of the prices, so the price of oil has been way down, and that has had a damaging effect on a lot of the oil companies, right? we are, however, producing a lot of natural gas which serves as a bridge to more renewable fuels, and i think that's an important transition. we've got to remain energy independent. it gives us much more power and freedom than to be worried about what goes on in the middle east. we have enough worries over t worry about that. so i have a comprehensive energy policy but it really does include fighting climate change because i think that is a serious problem, and i support moving toward more

clean renewable energy as quickly as we can, because i think we can be the 21st century clean energy superpower and create millions of new jobs and businesses. but i also want to be sure that we don't leave people behind. that's why i'm the only candidate from the very beginning of this campaign who had a plan to help us revitalize coal country, because the coal miners, fathers and grandfathers, lost their lives, they were injured, turned the lights off because they powered the factories. the price of coal is down worldwide. we have to look at this comprehensively and that's what i have proposed. i hope you will go to hillary clinton.com and look at my entire policy. moderator: one more audience question. we've sneaked in one more question, and it comes from carl becker. >> good evening. my question to both of you is,

regardless of the current rhetoric, would either of you name one positive thing that you respect in one another? [applause] . moderator: mr. trump, would you like to go first? clinton: well, i certainly will, because i think it's a very fair and important question. look, i respect his children. his children are incredibly able and devoted and i think that says a lot about donald. i don't agree with nearly anything else he says or does, but i do respect, that and i think that is something that as a mother and a grandmother is very important to me. so i believe that this election

has become in part so conflict oriented, so intense because there's a lot at stake. this is not an ordinary time and this is not an ordinary election. we are going to be choosing a president who will set policy for not just four or eight years but because of some of the important decisions we have to make here at home but around the world, from the supreme court, to energy and so much else, and so there is a lot at stake, it's one of the most consequential elections that we've had. and that's why i tried to put forth specific policies and plans, trying to get it off of the personal and put it onto what it is i want to do as president. and that's why i hope people will check on that for themselves so they can see that, yes, i've spent 30 years, actually a little more, working to help kids and families, and want to take all that

experience to the white house and do that every single day. moderator: mr. trump? trump: well, i consider her statement about my children to be a very nice compliment. i don't know if it was meant to be a compliment. but i'm very proud of my children, and they've done a wonderful job and they've been wonderful, wonderful kids. so i consider that a compliment. i will say this about hillary, she doesn't quit, she doesn't give up. i respect that. i tell it like it is. she's a fighter, i disagree with much of what she's fighting for. i do disagree with her judgment in many cases, but she does fight hard and she doesn't quit and she doesn't give up, and i consider that to be a very good trait. moderator: thanks to both of you. [applause] . moderator:ment to thank both the candidates, thank the university. this concludes the town hall meeting, to the university and

everybody who watched. >> tune in on october 19th for the final presidential debate that will take place at the university of nevada las vegas. good night, everyone. [applause] >> all right, well, that went well. man, oh, man, about a 97-minute battle that started with neither shake hands. they're doing so at ending, but they didn't waste a nanosecond going right at each other. the drama builds before they got to the stage tonight, when donald trump decided to invite four of bill clinton and hillary clinton's accusers from juanita broaddrick to paula jones during the clinton years, those who claim that the president physically abused them. of course, this in response to donald trump and the release of that tape more than 11 years old which he made some harassing comments and he said, well, i might have said some bad stuff. shi he did a lot of bad stuff. clinton children did not seem

too impressed from the comment from hillary clinton and hillary clinton with her husband bill. but for the first time in the same room, those accusers. so bill clinton there looked a little uncomfortable as he went into the evening, knowing what they were in store for, but again with, my colleague lou dobbs right now. i don't think i've ever seen a debate quite like this. >> no, and i suspect there will never be one quite like it. >> but for donald trump, i think a much better evening than his first. >> i think it's much better than much better. he won the debate. he took control of it. took control of it before it began with the news event as it was filed with the four victims of bill clinton who had been ignored by the mainstream media. he's clearly the winner. there are a number of losers here as well, and among them the left, the left wing of the mainstream media, which is nearly all of it, having to account for coverage, having to

account for the fact they pretended in this event, there was only one candidate who had a problem as a result of that video last friday, when, in fact, there are two with the document dump of wikileaks. and i think the debate commission has a lot to answer for because these two moderators were absolutely biased. >> well, they interrupted him four times, almost five times as much as they interrupted her. they argued, martha raddatz said because you kept going over. i clocked her responses, she was going over as well. we leave that to people as to why this is happeninger. >> it was suggested in the first two previous debates, martha raddatz was a participant in the debate. she's going to be roundly criticized for it. the two moderators, neither of

them looked happy to be asked to moderate this debate. >> that's right, that's right. >> they were in the uncomfortable position too, they were as surprised as anyone by donald trump's move to have the women there. but to my surprise, lou, this did not generate into a he said/she said, 90 plus minutes of horrible things you have said or done to women. he got it out there right away, apologized for it right after her, and it escalated to a point but then onto the other issues. >> and on those issue, trump was as focused as we expected him to be in the first debate. he was as energetic as we expected him to be. this was -- this reminded me so much and barack obama in his second debate with mitt romney. >> i think your impression and my impression may both be wrong, he evened it up at one

apiece, being more direct and countering. that the scrum in all of this, as they like to call in the spin room where lou and i are sitting is kennedy. they set up barricades which seems to intimate we're going to see at least mr. trump come into the room as well as some of the old clinton accusers, they are invited, they're in the audience as one of the only two ways you leave the auditorium, so they would all come out through there. kennedy, your quick thoughts of the people deluging out of there? >> reporter: yes, we are in the pennedoff scrum, that happened at hofstra, the barricades went up immediately. the secret service sweeping, donald trump came through and spoke to members of the media and hoping and anticipating he does the same thing this time, and he had a markedly different performance, and i could not be surprised if he wants to make a lap to talk about the changes, evolutions and improvements he made in his game, specifically

the predebate press conference and how that might have rattled secretary clinton and changed her tenor. >> all right, i know you're going to wait there. some of them are going to make their way. not nearly as big as the other venues, possibly quickly you will hear from donald trump talking to our kennedy, or anyone else. everyone will go through the same doors here. bill clinton talks to folks there. he was noticeably ashen going in no doubt about hearing some of the people he accused of raping and worse were going to be in the auditorium. trish regan, you are with me in new york. one of the things about the sites, you and i were surfing, a lot of people making a big deal of donald trump never sitting down, almost as one woman put itoy think the hill.com site, almost stalking her. that was not my impression of a man, he was just preferring to stand and moved the stage a lot.

as a woman, a lot of the women were e-mailing that. trish? >> i didn't pick up on that at all. some people like to stand, some like to sit. i stood up a couple of times as i was watching just because it was a long 90 minutes. i don't know if you can infer much from. that what i would say, neil, is this was a much better performance. this is what he needed to do. this is what people anticipated they would see from him at the last go-around. he was much more prepared. he came ready with a pointed argument to be able to fire at her on many different topics. there were some areas that he probably could have used a little more prep when he was talking, for example, about syria and aleppo. when he talked about islamophobia in this country, his answers started to meander. i would say over all, a really strong performance from him,

and he did unsettle her enough to really start to change the sort of tenor of how everything unfolded there. i think that people will walk away from this with a much better impression of him and his dedication to prepping for these debates. >> he was certainly more on his game and brought up the key points lou and i were mentioning that he didn't in the first debate. the deplorables and the stuff he had forgotten to that governor pence did in his debate. some of the headlines from politico, ugliest debate ever, "washington post" trump promises special prosecutor to investigate clinton. the hill, trump swings at clinton on e-mails. you'd be in jail. it's interesting that trump is the ugly guy. she's not. but what do you make of this and how the media could score it one way, folks at home score

it another way. he did hit on the points he had forgotten to or lost focus on in the last debate? >> he's been requestioned on her abhorrence to his candidacy, and i understand that. a couple of things. one, the issue that you raised about standing throughout the debate. the only inference that can be drawn from that is that he is a man of greater energy than some who could not stand through an hour and a half of that. secondly, the idea that martha raddatz would cut him off, interrupt him four times as much as, and anderson cooper four times as much. this was a debate in which you see, in these follow-up reports, i mean, the mainstream liberal media is validating the very charges that were validated in the debate. they're biased. >> what do you think that

donald trump wouldn't have any of it? he would go back to the questioners, you didn't interrupt her, you repeated me, as if to illustrate the point. clock me on this. i hope you are seeing i have been interrupted four, five times more. >> by the way, we were watching. >> clocking it. secondly, the business people would infer he was stalking the -- that's a sexist view, that's absolutely sexist and those people admonished for being so. i hope somebody does. that straightaway. >> it was interesting, the site devoted to e-mails on that thing. we have a lot coming up here, unlike the vice presidential debate where they hung out and sort of like were guests that wouldn't leave a party, both candidates have left. remember with kaine and pence, they stayed until the next morning. they had like a denny's breakfast there. >> and you could watch the

entourages. >> we want to go to the spin room, the scrum where both sides get the word out if their candidate won. for donald trump, it is safe to say the revelation of tapes from 11 years ago and further more talked about the fact it would be more tapes or this will document the full 90 minutes. it's not going to be the case. he is leaving, that is donald trump with his family, we did not get any statement from governor pence his running mate watching in indianapolis. but senator tim kaine indicated he's quite satisfied with that. again, from washington university, the second debate now history. donald trump got through this, he threw a couple of hail mary passes, and it would seem, i stress, seem it worked. more after this.

. >> okay, donald, i know you're into big aversion tonight, anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it's exploding and everyone is leaving you. >> let's see what happens. >> people care about tonight. >> i'd like to know, anderson, why aren't you bringing up the e-mails. >> you brought up the e-mails. >> it hasn't, and it hasn't been finished at all. >> kim has a question. >> nice, one on three. neil: all right, that was just one of the feisty exchanges here in st. louis, and as the second presidential debate wraps up here, they were both going toe-to-toe, there was a

great deal it drama before the debate started and drama during the debate, and i understand with antics behind me, continued drama. you moi when they came onto the stage, they never shook hands, they shook hands afterwards. richard trumka, big hillary clinton supporter, president of the afl-cio. how do you think it went? >> interesting. i think donald trump tried to come in and unnerve hillary clinton. he failed at doing that. if he was trying to rescue his campaign, i don't think he did a very good job tonight, because he hasn't rehabilitated himself with women. neil: why didn't he rehabilitate himself with women? one camp is saying he might have neutralized it by bringing the clinton accusers into the room and the tape released from 11 years ago. >> i think it failed miserably and backfired on him.

what it didn't do is acknowledge he was wrong. neil: he apologized. >> that wasn't an apology. he read a statement, you and i know there wasn't an apology. neil: you wanted more in this debate, and ironically it wasn't, were you surprised? >> i wanted to hear more about policy. >> you think she was off her game? people of saying he kind of spooked her. >> i don't think he spooked her at all. i think she was steady. neil: on the health care, what's been going on there, the pace of this economy? >> he was almost incoherent at times. neil: i had one site saying she was also robotic. so incoherent for him, robotic for her? >> no, i don't think -- i think she was speaking to the issues. the moderators kept saying to him, time and time again, donald you're not answering the question. neil: you know they interrupted him five times more than they did her? >> that's because he

interrupted her ten times more than she interrupted him. and he kept interrupting and going on and on. neil: what if it's one and one, somewhere instantly judging, you know how it goes, and if it looks like he brought more than the first debate and it's one and one, and that puts all the marbles on the table? >> first of all, i don't think he won this, and having him do better this time than the last time is a low bar. terrible the first time. neil: you don't like donald trump, i guess? >> i don't know him personally. in his policies, he's anti-union. he is unfit to be president. he is making it harder to have people make ends meet, and he will tear our country apart. neil: your sense and what hillary clinton has got to do here. in a debate, people are making the sense that her base is not rabidly for her. whatever support she gets tends to come from people who are

appalled by donald trump, not necessarily in love with her, can she close the deal and win with that? >> she's doing a great job with members. donald trump is lower than mitt romney was at this point in the election. she's doing much better with our members than he was. neil: aren't they chagrinned by her back and forth on trade deals? i know you don't like a lot of the trade deals. >> but wait a second, wait a second. let's talk about that, neil. what she voted against cafta when she was a senator. she's against tpp, now you seem -- neil: she once called tpp, richard, the gold standard. >> she said it could be, it could be. when it wasn't -- >> the e-mails that have come to life. >> she's showing vacillated. neil: what she's showing in the e-mails that came to light, not

what she appears on the sum, she's for open access trade. >> donald trump is the master at that. look, he talks about trade. neil: no, on her, do you think she switches? >> hear me out on this. you talked about hypocrisy, he makes all of his rukts overseas, has a chance to put steal workers to work, and buys chinese steel and chinese aluminum that's being dumped in this country. he's been for trade agreements for ten years. neil: you trust her? >> i trust her implicitly over him. there's a reason why, i've known her 30 years, she's never, ever lied to me. neil: how would you know? >> how would i know? because i would see it. neil: oh, okay. you got to look at some of the e-mails, they're doozies. >> fact checker says he tells a whopper every five minutes.

neil: you're being a little mean. richard trumka, always a great interview. a lot more in the scrum behind a lot more in the scrum behind me where anyone and ever upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage.com/business

minutes away. ♪ announcer: this is fox business network coverage of the second presidential debate. live from washington university in st. louis, here is neil cavuto. 1999 all right, bill cnton and chelsea clinton were briefed donald trump upped ante. if you were going to talk about what donald trump said 11 years ago he would bring out accusers said far worse about bill clinton. it added mightily what will go down on the stage three minutes from now. kennedy with me. lou dobbs with me. trish regan with me.