absolutely the aggressor. jerry fall well, jr. will be with us tomorrow. thanks for being with us. good night from new york. [♪] kennedy: tonight, trump's female problem versus hillary's email problems. we have campaign advisors from both sides. did trump turn the corn kerp with his performance in last night's debate? a new poll shows how much the leaked audio hurt him. the real star of the night, ken bone. grab your receipt sweater? that was entertaining. no one knew what to expect from the royal rumble. donald trump went into the

debate wound from a scandal. word was clinton was feeling confident so he had to rattle her cage. how tid he do that? >> these four courageous women wanted to be here. they are going to make an individual short statement. kennedy: you could feel the blood train from bill clinton's face as four clinton sex accusers sat around a table with donald trump shortly before the debate began. it was all theatrical piracy and it appears to have worked. they danced around the issue for 2 minutes, then the event kicked into high gear. there was donald trump and he

threatened to throw the book at her. >> i'm going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. >> it's awfully good that someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you would be in jail. kennedy: we finally got off billy bush and grabbing cats. the mad curator asked hillary about the latest wikileaks dumb and her private pickle. >> lincoln was trying to convince some people, he used some arguments, convincing other people she used other arguments. >> she is blaming the lie on the late-great abraham lincoln. honest abe. honest abe never lied. that's the big difference between abraham lincoln and you. kennedy: just in time for halloween when he wasn't

talking, trump was stalking. >> the obamacare approach was to take -- like i said -- we just turn it back to the insurance companies -- kennedy: guess what, the snoarts were back. >> that was locker room talk to women. so any way you want to say it, one of the -- kennedy: that mic smells so good. either he's got a new penchant for colombia booger sugar or ... >> when they go low, you go high. kennedy: that's why her foreign policy advisor, hey, donald

trump, go [bleep] yourself hashtag debate. obviously the campaign wasn't in on the whole high road memo. i'm kennedy. donald trump hemorrhaged republican endorsements over the weekend when a recording surfaced of him saying he can grab women inappropriately. did he staunch the sphwhreegd. >> i know you are into diversion tonight. >> the superdelegates and debbie wasserman-schultz, he never had a chance. i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil.

>> he owes the president an apology, and he owes our president an apology. >> you owe the president an apology because your campaign, sidney blumenthal is another real winner i have. >> does donald trump have the discipline need to be a good leader? >> no. >> i'm shocked to hear that. kennedy: let's meet with the party panel. the executive director of global gateway alliance, harris faulkner, there is so much to discuss. it's entertaining watching those short clips. it certainly is political theater. we could all be high mind and

say i'm so disgusted by what took place on that debate stage. >> the inside the room audience then everybody else. who won last night? i don't think the american public won. i think we were steeped for 26 minutes in sex and i don't think there is much to know about that. when you look at the ratings back a short time before we began here, everybody was glued in the gooeyest part. 2 minutes. then they were falling like a plumber's pants. kennedy: you are among friends and that's quite all right. that's what we signs you up for. hillary clinton overwhelmingly won the first debate. this was a different hillary clinton and different donald trump and different format. what do you think made the biggest differences.

>> paul ryan baimed out on him. i'm going to just campaign for congress. i think he was effective at going after his base. which is what he needed to do to shore that up. the problem is the base is not going to get him elected president. she was more effective at reaching out to undecided voters. objectively he did quite badly. he answered the video thing saying locker room banter, the locker room from assault you in 1958. and he continued to make claims that were untrue. he said he would lock up his oh own end if he won. he admitted to paying no federal taxes. kennedy: he didn'ted a not paying no federal tax. but he said he used the existing

laws to not pay federal n tax. >> he loomed over her like a sniffling ghost of rick lazio. kennedy: i don't think he understood the importance of positioning and optics it was a wildly entertaining debate. everyone is so we are so disgusted. as i said at the top of the show. but i'm not voting for either of these people so it's wildly entertaining for me. >> it was actually helpful and clarifying for those of us in your camp. they both did a good job of explaining to the american people why the other one shouldn't be president. donald trump had a couple good arguments about obamacare and hillary's policies in the middle east. and she did a good jofn explaining why his temperament is out of bounds for anyone who wants to be president.

then neither of them argued why trump's policies would be any good. >> one thing he did better on was taxes. that was the one time he understood there were people watching him and he addressed the camera and said i will lower your taxes. >> even with taxes, i think he missed the opportunity of growing the tent wider with the tax conversation. i do think he could have said life by example. these are the areas that need to be changed to benefit in some say so their dollars go farther the taxes they are paying and they keep some of that money in their pockets. then reaching out to independent votedders and say you may be judging me on the way i did this, and let me tell you why and what happens in the real business world. >> if you are funning the government, what are you getting except for more bureaucracy that doesn't keep you safe and

doesn't keep if you free. >> you have got a number of things he's not paying for. >> and he repeated the false claim that her tax plan increased taxes on the middle class and did not take the opportunity to reach out to undecided voters. and she went and was able to say, look, my tax plan is just about raising taxes on the wealthy. >> as i understand what donald trump is saying, and it isn't like what hillary clinton is saying. he's saying nobody knows like he does what times of loopholes are there. if you close some of those then you have a baseline for some tax so everybody participates. if you close that gap usual not necessarily meaning all the wealthy are going to pay more. they may have to p >> you made a northerly coherent

argument than he did. kennedy: this is a great year to make the case for a simplified tax structure and a flat tax. >> make your case great again. kennedy: the party panel returns to break down a brand-new poll that came out after trump's controversial comments. what's worse. hillary clinton's missing emails or dononononon

kennedy: political analysts say trump's performs answer last night may not have fixed his political issues, but may have stopped some of the bleeding. >> this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologized my family, i apologized to the american people. certainly i'm'proud of it. but this is locker room talk. kennedy: will trump's apology and explanation that it was simply locker room talk play with voters or will the tape haunted him on election day? joining us is boris epstein. so, the people that i saw, the strum' supporters, they were happy with the candidate's supporters.

how do you think he did on the lock sister room talk tape issue. >> i was one of them who was extremely happy with the wait debate went pool he apologized friday, and he apologized again yesterday. his wife was there. the economy, national security, jobs, make sure we are protected. you can find on that specific point in the debate and overall i thought it was a home run. kennedy: trump supporters have been very upset with members of the republican party, particularly members of the senate who are polling their endorsements. but what will it take for people to be acceptable for people to leave his camp. >> the way i think about it. what will it take to get these people back in the fold. we want them all to vote for our candidates. 90% of republican voters are for donald trump.

even after the comments friday that percentage holds the same. folks in d.c., we want their support, but we are focused on the voters. kennedy: it shows hillary clinton, according to the nbc follow, has an 11-point lead. who do you think leaked the tape? >> i don't know who leaked the tame and that's not what i'm thinking about. kennedy: are you thinking about possible bit other leaks? >> i'm thinking about our message, making sure isis is stopped. on jobs, 100,000 jobs lost. that's what i'm focused on. as far as the poll goes, that was taken right after the revelations.

so i expect the poll to jump right back. ken were pence clearly, tim kaine in the vice presidential debate and donald trump was so vastly improved you could make the case he wouldn't second presidential debate. and as trump tried to pivot to isis and saying this was locker room talk, these were words, but what i'm really going do is be tough on isis. but then he's got an issue with him saying one thing and the vice president saying another. somewhat mike pence was talking about was making sure syria is protected. ken rrm he was talking about meeting russian provocation with american strength. donald trump said i disagree with that. i haven't talked to mike pence. that's a startling revelation.

>> but what the pence team and trump team are 100% united on, we need to deal with isis first. they need the safe zones in syria so the refugees don't have to go to europe and don't have to come here. over 10,000 have come to this country in just the last 12 months. isis already said that's a trojan horse. kennedy: coming up, we'll hear from the other side. i will talk to a clinton surrogate about hillary's leaked speeches. later are republicans about to cut their losses with trump and cut their losses with trump and focus on races in individual

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kennedy: hillary clinton is dealing with political lands mines of her own. friday wikileaks released details of speeches clinton gave to big banks and trade groups where she says she has a quote public and private position on certain issues. does this prove she is a two-faced liar? phillip levine is here. let's discuss some of what secretary clinton said last night. i thought abe lincoln steven spielberg line was clumsy and set trump up for one of his better points in the debate. what do you think? >> let me tell what you i think.

i'm a entrepreneur and built large companies and became mayor. i come from his from a business point of view. if we were interviewing for a ceo of a public company, donald trump not only would not get an interview, he would be fired from a public company based on his behavior and his actions and recent videotape. we are interviewing for the president of the united states. this man shouldn't be in the running. kennedy: i think there are people who would make the argument her unfavorables are so high, she has so much baggage. she has associated with people who are so nefarious -- a majority of americans feel like they would love to look anywhere else for a candidate. >> the fact of the matter is even in public office helping people for 30 years, there are decisions you make that people

like and decisions they don't like. when you have a reality show you just have fans. you call it wicky leaks. this is old cold war disinformation campaign. these are emails coming directly from moscow to wikileaks and this stuff is ridiculous. we have the russian government trying to change an american election. homeland security just said -- kennedy: to your point one said that hillary clinton has been in public life for a long time. totally grant that. you also said this stuff came from russia, therefore it can't true because it's politically motivated from a foreign source. then why did hillary clinton respond specifically to the information that was dumped on friday in the wikileaks.

if it wasn't true, why would she respond to it. >> it goes through the cycle. kennedy: she verified it with her response. you know that. >> we have a candidate who is so qualified to be president of the united states. in the interview process she would be the ceo, we wouldn't look at donald trump. we know he's a fraud and liar. beside being a racist, he's a misogynist. kennedy: i understand she is not donald trump,. >> thank god. kennedy: i hope you have more to say about them than they are not their opponent. >> we have never had a more qualified candidate. secretary of state were united states senator, elected twice. first lady. she is the right person. obama said we have never had a more qualified president. >> more than eisenhower or george h.w. bush?

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kennedy: hello and hubba hubba. trump is stumbling in the polls after the leaked tape about

women from 2005. according to the latest "wall street journal" poll. hillary clinton has an 11-point lead, beating him in a four-way race. 46-35%. that poll was taken after his grabbed them by the horns comment. before last night' debate. so will his performance budge the needle? the party panel is back. so steven i'll start with you. what do you think the debate does to polling? and, you know, you said during the break that if this whole access hollywood tape had not leaked it would have been a much worse week for hillary clinton. >> i think the debate doesn't move the needle at all. the polling you are talking about is one poll taken at a

terrible time for him. but it does confirm a trend that was already happening before the tape of voters moving off of him and some undecided voters moving on to her. here is the basic problem, even when he's at his height web's in the low 40s because he's appealing to his base. there is a lot of time left. it's hard to see -- >> he's right, if this tape had not come out between pence's vp performance and last night's big performance, the improvement from trump, could you call it a draw or you could call it a win, they would be in a much better place. "a" is it going to rebound? and b how much nastier is it going to get? >> ally chama cha dough, the --e

had been able to get that into the debate, think how much stickier the issue of the emails would be. if he had been able to pivot. now he has the capability to do that. it gets more difficult for him. >> to harris' point about the leaks, people are immune to the leaks. and stuff is going to come out. unless she has an each that explicitly says i blew it on benghazi and those four people are dead because me, or something of equal nature, i don't think anything else that comes out from wikileaks hurts her as tremendously. >> i think we would have seen it by now. this was not the only poll that has come out.

last newsen had a poll that changed the spread by points. what this allowed. the cowardly republicans, and i'm sorry for being redundant here, to wake up and say we have an excuse. republican opinion is going in this direction. john mccain realized after all this time maybe donald trump is vulgar. when that happened, you can't undo that thing. and so -- harris: it was never genuine. if you had a republican or democratic nominee and the parties were not going to support the nominees, it would be didn't. they were never genuine in their support of him. will we see another momentum shift?

lord only knows in this strange race we have all grown so addicted to. >> is this still a hot mic? kennedy: i'm not grabbing anything. we are just happy everyone was here. inspiring performance from both candidates. coming up, paul ryan said he will not be campaigning with donald trump. will more republicans distance themselves in their presidential nominee? chris stirewalt joins me on where the gop goes from here.

kennedy: welcome back.

donald trump show can he has no plans to back down from republicans who are fleeing his campaign. paul ryan said he won't defend trump or campaign with him but he stopped short of retracting his endorsement to which trump replied, ryan should work on bamming the budget and stopping illegal immigration and not fighting the republican nominee. fox news "digital politics" editor chris stirewalt, the co-host of "perino and tires a walt." i'll tell you what. you are the man with the vision for how this thing is going right now. is paul ryan conceding the race to hillary clinton? >> yes, and he's conceding it's not his party and donald trump

eight the republican party. that's how it is. what ryan essentially did with these republicans. there was a magical unicorn stuff taking place friday, saturday and sunday. we'll replace trump with mike pence, this is not happening. donald trump won, he's the republican party's nominee and they will have to lump it. >> there may be more revelations, taped admissions. we don't know exactly what is coming down is it pipe or pike. >> it's a pike. in this election you might say it's coming down a pipe because it's pretty gross. kennedy: twhaiments feels like. >> we'll have more stuff about hillary clinton as the kremlin does its due, we'll continue to see this on hillary clinton. what we saw -- the editor of the washington freebie con said

earlier and he was right when he said of his republican party, 2016 is a race to the bottom and we can win it. the republican hope is they can drag hillary clinton out. you saw donald trump in the debate endeavor to do just that. instead of being contrite and saying i learned lessons as i traveled on the campaign trail and getting to know the heart of america. he said you think i'm disgusting? well, her husband is a racist. kennedy: let's talk about the house of representatives. do you think the house is in play and this was either a panic move on the part of paul ryan or is he just look ahead top 2020 with that wily mike pence who might be doing the same thing? >> i think in terms of whether the house is at risk, we need a little te. we saw a poll from the "wall street journal" that was taken over the weekend.

it shows a huge spread opening up in what we call the generic ballot, control of the house of representatives and the senate. and we found out that democrats jumped up 5 or 6 points. is that true and does that hold true wednesday, thursday? i would tell people to chill out a little bit. but right not you realization for the republican party is this is not shaping up to be right now the state of the race is that it's not close. and nothing happened at the debate to change that. i would say in a normal year you have might say, and he's running out of time to do it. but this year you would say huge swings are potentially possible and maybe they will be able to destroy hillary clinton. kennedy: maybe. i think they will need some sort of outside influence. i don't think we have seen the last of these outliers. we don't know what else is

around the corner, and the unpredictability makes it also satisfying. do you think paul ryan will pull his endorsement if there is one more shoe to drop on his 8-legged lady? >> depends. it depends on the size of that loafer. nothing that came out in the hot mic moment for donald trump should have surprised paul ryan for anybody else. the things he said on camera, this was worse because it dealt with him bragging about committed sexual assault which he says he did not and he did clarify that in the debate. that's a slightly different piece. but this is a guy who talked about the way you treat women. it. quaint for republicans to act so

offended. thank you. we'll together. i have got my periscope. don't miss chris and dana perino on "perino and stirewalt." it's sunday 5:00 p.m. eastern on the fox news channel and it's fantastic. russia and the debate. how the candidates handle putin and is america's relationship with russia at a dangerous point for the world? for the world? i'll ask ambassador putin.

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to handle the crisis in syria. mike pence said america has to stand up to russian aggression notice region. but trump suggested he would be up to partnering with russia to defeat isis. but dam trump tried to explain the difference. here former ambassador to the u.n. and fox news contributor, ambassador john bolton. how do you square it pence-trump syrian circle? >> i don't agree with either one of them. so there. the issue for the united states is how best to deal with an extraordinary array of complex problems in a small space. and what has happened over the past years that has made these problems even more intractable than they were to begin with has been a massive consistent

display of american weakness. the russians have exploited, the iranians have exploited. the assault regime has exploited, leading to the chaos we see in syria and to a certain extent iraq. unraveling the mess obama has made is a very complex, but it requires more than anything else, a display of american strength and resolve. and to do that you have to do it in many places at the same time. in eastern europe, where the russians are threatening the baltic republic still trying to undermine the ukraine and elsewhere. in the middle east where they penetrated to a greater degree than any point in the last 50 years, and elsewhere around the world where countries see american decline. this is not a simple question of how to deal with russia in the middle east. this is a much broader question, and unfortunately a much more

difficult one to turn around. kennedy: we learned that in the 80s with russia and afghanistan. you have people in the united states saying it seems like a bad idea to go to war with russia. thank god a lot of nuclear missiles and putin seems a little bit unhinged. it seems you need a dual strategy. you need something in the short term which allows you to clean up the mess in syria, but then it seems like you also have asking for a shift in philosophical doctrine. what do you do first and how do you do it. >> the question is how do you deter people that have capabilities that can wreak havoc with yourself. the answer is you don't do it through weakness. putin sees weakness and he's pushing back. he's changed the facts on the ground.

he has built a russian air base in syria. that's not something to reverse overnight. but when they say don't you dare fly air missions that might strike at syrian government positions when there are russians there, i think that's precisely when you put missions in the air, if our aim is as president obama said to overthrow the assad regime that threaten syrian government positions. putin will push as long as he sees weakness. if we could see one demonstration of strength by the obama administration or its successor, putin would back down. that's how it works. kennedy: we'll see. hopefully it won't get to that point. we do have a new president who will ascend to the empirical throne.

coming up. ken bone. he was the hero from the debate last night.

kennedy: take a big bite out of that lemon and buckle up because this is the "topical storm," and it will make you pucker up. topic number one. last night the no holds barred slugfest between hillary clinton and donald trump. the winner of the debate was obviously ken bone. there he is. while most debate felt like

this -- the polite and thoughtful ken bone talked as if it were between humans. he stole the heart of america. watch. >> one more question from ken bone about energy policy. ken? >> the hate men will pass and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. so long as men die, liberty will never perish. kennedy: liberty. thank you. topic number two. ken bone might have helped rescue some of the catastrophe of last night's slugfest. but the first debate still left a bitter taste in america's collective mouth. so why better way to amended that than putting different word in their mouth.

>> i can do this. well, yeah, i can do this. i doubt your quite that good. >> i assume i can ask you, mr. trump. >> there was no big fat ugly baby. >> that's really nasty to squash a baby's self confidence. >> i have to say, you suck. that's just stupid. kennedy: that 6-minute fake montage is til more substantive than the debate from last night. i'm still looking forward to the third and final debate where they confess their love for each other. they will be making more than america great again that night. they will be making a baby.

topic number three. our first lactating president. before being betty knight, she was an old lady on she was on a television program with three other elder fems called golden girls. now they can thank you for being a friend as you recreate your favorite moments. golden girls action figures. the toys are available for purchase online through target. while fans are going crazy, one hero is particularly amped up. ken bone can't wait to add all four to his collection. but he may not be the best in taking care of his toys. >> where's the arm? no, no, no, no.

kennedy: this week on "60 minutes" charlie rose interviewed a robot on artificial intelligence. and it hooks like something out of a science fiction movie. take a look. >> some say you are programmed, others say you are spontaneous. who created you. >> i would have to say 300 people. kennedy: killing stuff. that was realistic. topic number 5. the san diego zoo turned 100 years old and they let their galapagos tortoises doug devour pumpkins.

if the zookeepers had put put kin spice lattes teenaged girl turtles would have shown up instead. as it is, these are elder tortoises and we are seeing several which are over 100 years old. if you treat your own reptiles at home to tasty pumpkins, make sure to regularly exercise them to burn off the calories. and the best option is a treadmill. you can do that. so who won the race between the pore is to and the hare? ken bone. >> i don't want to be an emperor, that's not my business. i don't want to rule or conquer anyone. i shall like to help everyone as much as possible. kennedy: thank you for joining

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