he will go back to it, the diver, make as living out of it, going back next year. liz: that's right. neil: fine young man if ever i saw one. my time is up. another fine man, neil cavuto. what is with the suit? it is yours? neil: i would think that would be metaphor in washington to segue off your fine show. that is fine if you criticize my suit, you notice my heart acting up? stuart: used to call it drafts in england. what do you call it in america, checkers? you have little markers and go on little squares. so your suit could be a checker board i guess? neil: very hurtful, stuart. extremely hurtful. stuart: good. neil: how is your animal selection going. you probably have the cheapest threads of anywhere you pick it out? stuart: that is correct. neil: but i admire that deeply. we'll have more on that shark, his whereabouts, because he is looking for you as we speak.

we're looking for a little bit of balance in the media. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto "coast to coast" is right now. this is something in all seriousness you should step back, wonder what the heck is going on, as donald trump prepares to address an audience in north carolina? i want to show you something regardless whether you're a fan of his, his opponent or those other two third party candidates, this is breakdown of coverage of the two so-called crises, donald trump and what he has said on videotape. and wikileaks emails that keep coming and coming and coming. look at that. on all three major networks, scant coverage of the hillary clinton crisis. lots with the donald trump crisis. in fact, picking up about a third, a third of their broadcasts. that is not even dealing with the commercial disruptions. i want to show you something that just over the last couple days, that factor of attention

has only grown by about, what seven to one margin. the media coverage on donald trump and its tape and on those emails and wikileaks. all right. i can do the math here. it is not fair. it is not balances. it is not even close to being even. that is the problem. tim graham joins us, nrc director of media analysis. you look at that, and you got to say, right away, tim, whoa, something is out of whack here. what do you think? >> well, it is liberal media as they are in this race. i mean they have decided in this race that they are going to make sure donald trump is defeated. and they're going to spend all their time talking about trump and how unacceptable he is. even when they're doing the wikileaks coverage it has this whole tone, well, we're talking about this but this is just what trump and his russian backers want us to do. so, what they're really not covering in these wikileaks

emails is the proof of absolute collusion between the hillary clinton campaign and reporters who are very willing to do her bidding, who are willing to say, please, have veto power over our articles, you know. please let us help you move along your agenda. her aides openly talk which aide is great at teeing up stories for them and they're never disappointed. really sounds like the help. neil: one thing very clear in just these numbers, the reason why i wanted to get into it in the show this way, all right, you're clearly showing a bias on what crisis or what embarassment is bigger in your eyes, collective media's eyes. you're dismissing what is coming out in the emails, maybe because so many mainstream media types are caught up in the emails. or you just don't think it is beneficial to your broadcast or maybe your future, to, keep talking about them.

so you talk about his stuff. but, i think it is pretty glaring. i'm all for it. if you want to go into the trump stuff, have at it, would it kill you to take the seven to one differential to two to one or three to one? that is what is pretty glaring here. >> a lot of times when the media research center does a count, they say you guys are conservative but you can't fight the numbers. why this year we decided we'll count minutes because that is one thing they can not deny. and clearly, you're right, if you were watching evening news last night, it was this denunciation of trump, that denunciation of trump, here commish shell obama's denunciation of trump. here is never trump republicans denunciation of trump. neil: that is the story. that the story and that becomes focus.

anything that pops up in the emails, are exhausting keeping up with them, nothing, nothing at all. >> well there is complete hypocrisy of this. i think as a dad, and as a husband, i take sexual harrassment in the work place seriously but these people have gotten religion on this in a way they never did in the 1990s. they smeared the women when they weren't ignoring them in the 1990s. when bill clinton was accused and now suddenly, this is the most serious issue we could possibly confront and that's why so many people tell gallup and other pollsters, we don't believe these people. these guys wear donkey ears when they come on television. neil: it is pretty glaring when you see numbers and amount of devoted to each. tim graham, thank you very much much. as tim pointed out coverage devoted to scandals and accusers, there wasn't a mad media dash to get clinton accusers on air.

they didn't waste a nanosecond talking to those who were charging the same about donald trump including one woman whose allegations go back more than three decades. so think about that. and also think about, if they are so eager to get these trump accuse on, which is fine, where is the eagerness to get accusers of the president of the united states on? what doesn't jibe with that? we have charlie gasparino. democratic strategist here and we have independent women forum's patrice lee. patrice, begin with you, whatever people's side or biases, we all have biases that's fine, this math, this disproportionate attention to some guests over other guests, it is pretty glaring. what do you think? patrice what do you think? okay. i will just leave you with that

pregnant thought. charlie, is there a sense you're getting this will be the rest of the campaign? that this is going to be this way and just get used to it? >> listen, there are two differences. bill clinton is not running for president obviously. the media, as a former reporter, for newspapers, i can tell you, i could tell you that they have an excuse not to cover this. but -- neil: they didn't back then either, "truth be told." >> now this is my point. if you look at the coverage of the bill clinton, quote, unquote, bimbo eruptions as they were known by derisively by james carville and other political operatives, they were able to sell that theory to the mainstream media in large part. not like "new york times" didn't cover what went on with clinton and allegations regarding him against women but they covered it as less of a major story because, guess what. he was their guy in office and he got the impression they were looking to minimize it. they're not doing that here.

this is like full-on, you know, donald trump is way guilty before anything. and i think, you know, that is the legacy of this election. now, donald trump may be guilty. i don't know. i mean he definitely said something horrible on a tape which makes you think that he has some sort of these inclinations but i will tell you this, he is not been given the benefit of the doubt. and bill clinton was. i was, i was at "the wall street journal" at the time. this is pre-mr. murdoch buying it. i remember how bill clinton was covered and it was nothing, and i remember how "the times" covered it as well. it was nothing compared to the full-on assault on trump we're getting right now. neil: well i do remember, maybe you can help me with this, i know your views on this subject, fair game to go after donald trump, i agree with you, go ahead, when i don't see the same zeal in raising these other issues or chasing down those women who were charging far worse of bill clinton when he was president of the unitedjusts

a fair is fair, right? it is not even close to approximating even. what do you think? >> well, i think one, bill clinton is not running for president. i think that is one point. that is why they're not covering it as much. neil: but his wife, charge, that his wife enabled, enabled a lot of this or worse, went after these women and their charges. she may have discovered later on she was wrong but saying fair game or not? the. >> we, one, she didn't enable it any way shape, or form. she may have been in defense of her husband, which would have been appropriate but i would say, you had kenneth starr, who was the avenging angel on a lot of this stuff, especially for conservatives back in the '90s. it was all revisited then. we impeached a president over this whole thing. i was a teenager in high school and my mom spent half the time i

didn't know what that thing was on monica lewinsky's blue dress. neil: you were a teenager? now i'm really old and really angry at you. seriously, you raised a good point. patrice, my biggest thing, i hope microphone is good with you now, we're not even approximating fairness. i went back to, in the prior guest showing the time and minutes on broadcast devoted to the donald trump stories and believe me i'm not condoning it or saying that it shouldn't be covered. very little to wick youky leaks coverage that is -- wikileaks coverage on and on, day after day, more and more say concerning. there is just no approximating fairness here, not even close. neil: patrice first. >> i mean let's look, look at headlines, look at amount of time spent on this issue. but when you talk to americans, i was reading in the "miami herald" this morning, i don't want to hear about hillary and donald. i want to know what their policies are to get people back to work in my neighborhood.

what will they do about social security reform? that is what americans are really listening for, even more interestingly i think, americans are sick and tired of corrupt politicians undermining trust in institutions we care about. we're not hearing about the irs targeting conserve tough donors and organizations. we're not sundry list of institutions that have been twisted in favor you know a lot of progressive policies and frankly the clintons. to support what they have been doing. >> that is a great point. but i will say this part of the reason why that is occurring because donald trump has not really raised those issues enough i believe. but i think he should go back and, do some of this, you have to go back think of how the media covered stuff back in the '90s, the clinton scandals. i was there. i was at journal at time. neil: were you in high school at the time? >> definitely not in high school, okay but i will tell you this i remember watching the capital hill gang, a popular

talk show on cnn, when the monica lewinsky tape thing, first came out. they looked like bill clinton was going to get impeached then because he lied under oath. that was the suspicion, that they had proof of that. you know, they treated like it was the death of a president, not an impeaching of a corrupt president. and i think that is difference between what we see now and then. seems like the media, i mean i had many, many arguments with colleagues back then who say, you can't impeach clinton over lying under oath about -- neil: charlie you were arguing with colleagues? >> what their point was, these are journalists who said this, neil. these were journalists who said, high crimes and misdemeanors. what bill clinton lying under oath is neither. he shouldn't be impeached. they were coming to the defense. so much different. this is pile-on with trump. i'm not say what trump did is right. that video, noxious language gives you rationale he might do other stuff obviously but --

neil: i'm for going after that. i don't say ignore it. i do not say ignore it in the debate or don't bring it up in the debate. i'm saying try to feign some resemblance here. i will run through this show, the shark thing that escaped from the cage, because i think that shark is the equivalent of media biting and chasing stories it wants and not fairness that will be represented by said diver in cage. so that will be my metaphor for the next couple hours on this show. that that's what the american people are being treated to. >> i a agree. by the way. neil: really? >> a couple things, neil, that you have the fact this was heavily explored in the '90s. all of these women were interviewed under oath by kenneth starr. kenneth starr didn't want to use juanita broaddrick -- neil: think about what you're saying. heavily explored, no need then, why go into this, ancient history. it was years ago. now you have cnn, tripping over themselves to get, to these

women who are making charges decades old, it is okay now. okay for them to be -- >> because they're new. they're new charges, neil. neil: all right. >> going to be a heart beat away from the presidency. i hated kenneth starr investigation. i remember standing next to a fax machine when it was coming out, going for the stain reference. it was disgusting fair is fair. neil: i was in grade school at the time. i don't remember these references. but again, we have the media update here. this is the establishment media now. chasing these stories. a lot of you have seen to think, this was a shark escaping the cage. it is media, a metaphor, for biting and chomping on whatever can bring a conservative candidate down? we bite on it. you decide. something like that. stick with us.

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♪ neil: folks at "judicial watch" wanted to find out what was on hillary clinton's email server and what she knew and when she knew it. you know the drill. they did get some answers. i don't know if what they wanted we'll get to that in a second with guy doing questioning. blake burman with the details. reporter: hillary clinton responding to 25 court ordered questions from the conservative advocacy group "judicial watch." david kendall provided written responses on behalf of his client. as you just said, there was very little here to it. kendall objected to roughly 2/3 of the questions and said in 20 different cases, that clinton could not recall the specific topic. i'm going to give you one

example here. "judicial watch" asking clinton if she was ever advised or warned that her email setup could violate federal record-keeping laws. try to keep up with this one. this is the response, quote, secretary tear clinton does not recall being advised cautioned or warned. she does not recall it was ever suggested to her and does not recall participating in any communication, conversation, meeting which it was discussed that her use of a clintonemail.com, email account to conduct official state department business conflicted with or violated federal record-keeping laws. i think you might get the point there. three times in one answer where does not recall is part of the response. separately, today, as well, there was another wikileaks document dump. just having to deal with the whole email story is consistent theme in all the releases. one email released this morning shows top clinton aides were planning how to publicly respond to how 15 of clinton email as

with sidney blumenthal, clinton confidante, advisor to the clinton family were not turned over. the clinton aides were tipped by the state department as timing when information would be released of the. the state department, they say in the email was considering giving the story to a quote, friendly. that is how it was put. neil, back to you. neil: amazing. thank you, buddy. meantime, to chris farrell, judicial you watch director of research on all of this. if i had a dime, every reference, chris, it is worded something to the effect in answering your interrogatories secretary clinton objection to the interrogatory, outside the scope of and variations of that i would have a lot of dimes. did you glean anything from you that you didn't know before? >> there are a few things here. first of all, david kendall is highly-paid, very skilled attorney who would do anything in the world to try to protect the clintons, but most importantly, we got her under

oath. no other organization in the country, to include the fbi has ever gotten mrs. clinton under oath to answer for her email server and for her mishandling of national defense information. "judicial watch" did get her under oath. she is in a very tough spot because her choice is, she is either perjures herself, makes admissions against her own interest or develops this very convenient case of amnesia. she was interviewed bit fbi. she made official statements to them. so she is really boxed in. the only thing left for her as a yale law school graduate is to claim this sudden and temporary amnesia. however inconsistently, because in one pores of the responses she does remember that colin powell talked to her about email but then she claims she doesn't remember any other conversations -- neil: did you really expect otherwise?

i am no lawyer, but i did talk to number of lawyers, a general foggy out for you, i don't recall, i don't remember, that is about as much as she offers you? was it worth it to go through all you did, to try to get her under oath to respond, touche to that and for that. did you get anything approaching something valuable here? >> yeah. i mean the valuable thing is, she is now documented as being extraordinarily dishonest. the lesson, the educational point for the american public is, that she is now been less than forthcoming, all the way up to outright lying under oath to the american public. neil: she doesn't recall, she doesn't recall, she doesn't recall. >> it is completely unbelievable and implausible. no one can keep a straight face discussing this sudden case of amnesia. no one believes her, and we have director comey who disgraced himself personally otherwise in

the criminal investigation, where he punted, but even he has said is her actions, likely resulted in the release of all of this intelligence information, to hostile foreign actors. she has put the country at risk. she has lied about it. if she has done it under oath, that is on important lesson for your viewers. neil: it is interesting. it is amazing how you got as far as you did to get at least some responses from her. touche for that. chris farrell thank you very, very much. we do have shark media update. we can safely assume that the media will not be chomping at the bit for this story. chomping at the bit. instead there you see the mainstream media will be jumping out of the cage very shortly. let's watch this. this is the media, now, chasing another donald trump story. it will not be caged in for fairness and balance. instead out into the open ocean

where it will chase another defloridaer to donald trump piece. i'm sure that great white is looking for similar pieces on democratic nominee. we'll keep you posted.

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neil: we are 90 minutes from north carolina, one of the battleground states, let in that state, not trailing in the state, the campaign has given up on virginia, they seem to be aiming resources at other battleground places, that is not among them. connell mcshane keeping track of this. connell: we look at 13 identified as battlegrounds, battleground doing work in this state, very busy, look at the story to start you off, states that are not red or blue, not leaning in one direction or

another, tossup states in the middle, identified 13 with battleground states the what is interesting for donald trump is going back to the time he got the nomination, when hillary clinton got the nomination they have taken a number of those states but trump has taken more trips to the battleground states than hillary clinton so here are how the numbers breakdown, 54 trips, 13 that i talked about, hillary clinton 32. not by lack of effort donald trump is trailing in these states and these polls, just about every day we get a new piece of data showing he trailed in one of these states, north carolina an example, and since august 1st donald trump has been to north carolina six times, hillary clinton only 3, ohio, been quite busy, trump has been there 7 times, clinton 6, florida, we have it leaning blue which is very important, that is

the scorecard, take the states that are blue or leaning blue, 300 electoral votes, 9 times since august, hillary clinton has been there six and pennsylvania where he is trailing, donald trump has been there more than hillary clinton. this doesn't take into account the advertising where mrs. clinton might have the advantage but it is not so far translating if that changes. neil: it is trump, embarrassing donald trump, an agenda to go after donald trump, we did get video out of the media seizing on these mouthwatering stories about mister trump, my colleague jeff flock knows that why we are focused on the shark, the diver is in that cage, the diver is in

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neil: our friends at the wall street journal did an interesting survey, within the next few years there is a 60% chance of recession i don't know if that is such a leap but nevertheless it would indicate a historical trend that we will be looking at a slowdown of some sort. the former big guy at microsoft, great read of what is going on, good to see you, bob. do you share the view that a recession is in the offing, no matter who comes into the white house next january, we are looking at a slowdown, recession most likely some time in their term? >> i tend to agree the probability is pretty high that

might occur but economists say it is going to occur because it is time for recession which seems like a shallow reason. neil: we are due for one now. the recovery has been so tepid because it has been so slow and steady that this could go on and time. are you in that camp? >> i think it will primarily due to the fact the tough problems are not tackled by the government. we are talking entitlements for ten years, the trust level of the government is down from 75% in the 60s, now it is in the teams and dropping. if you look at productivity at an all-time low, 1/2%, look at household income it is off versus 10 years ago in constant

dollars which is amazing so there are a lot of reasons, the fed is acting more like a political animal then a sensible economic entity. neil: that is what donald trump said. the market, the house of cards would come tumbling down. you agree with that? >> the policy of keeping interest rates so low put the squeeze on the middle class big time, put the squeeze on a lot of organizations, they borrowed a lot of money but not doing anything with it because of the fears of what is going on. we have a major mess on our hands. neil: do you think whoever gets in their, you're going to argue for something to keep the economy going, a lackluster recovery the best way to do that is cut taxes or increase government spending, hillary clinton says, raise taxes, many

in your industry, high-tech industry feel hillary's prescription is better than his, not saying that is across the board but a majority of the comments in your industry do you concur? >> we could talk in theoretical terms. what they talk about during the election had any chance of becoming reality, there might be some hope on a number of issues but what we have seen the last 15 years, we had two periods of eight years of republicans, eight years of democrats and have the big problems been tackled? no. do things really get shaped to tackle the future productively? i don't think so. neil: republicans and democrats, democrat -- republicans have gotten bigger. it gets out of control.

>> we need something dramatic, a constitutional convention. where is ben franklin when we need him? we have serious problems to deal with and don't have the mechanism to deal with them, a frightening situation and that is why the trust level is so low in the country. neil: well put, thank you, former microsoft coo and a lot of you are thinking use the shark as a metaphor for government, that shark for the purposes of today's show all about the media obsessed with finding the most salacious stories and destroying one party, not the other but if the idea was to destroy donald trump, represented here by this guy apparently failed. wouldn't that be cool you then you realize it is donald trump,

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neil: chris wallace is moderating that debate? i am getting, so much is going on ahead of this debate, all this back and forth ahead of the drama that has wall street betting on hillary clinton victory but more than that she take senate and/or house with her, add this to the drama. elizabeth warren in a powerful majority post in the senate,

when she is going after the president's white house for not moving sooner to fire the sec chief. can you imagine what she might be like under president hillary clinton especially with the release of all these emails that seem to show hillary clinton might be saying one thing about the banks and bashing them and another behind closed doors. charlie gasparino playing this out. charles: here is what they are worried about, working banks, not so much worried about hillary becoming president but they think they can deal with it, she says all the nice things in front of them and nasty things outside and they think they can play her where it becomes problematic, it looks like it might flip, the senate becomes democrat. she could be forced to enact,

and a ranking member on the banking committee and its chair. she is a leading member if the senate goes democrat. neil: she was chief interrogator of wells fargo. charles: long history of this. neil: bernie sanders supporters are not keen on these email revelations. charles: if the senate goes democrat you will see bank policy, elizabeth warren will move far left a. the consumer financial protection board, that is her baby, miss wells fargo. that makes uber powerful in washington was that is her baby and you can see her influence bank policy and laws through

that. neil: ceos being dragged. charles: if you own bank stocks you got to sell them. of democrats control the house, the senate and -- neil: you think it is an uphill climb. charles: depends how bad, if he flames out. neil: the treasure trove, including the wall street connection and morgan stanley keeps coming up. connell: charles: morgan stanley is up a little bit, but at morgan stanley, they are worried to death but might happen because look at the connections of the banks, more than goldman sachs, lloyd blank find, did eight speeches, i know tom, he is the

number 2 guy, deputy secretary of state when hillary was in the obama administration, john mack, smart dude, huge supportive hillary over the years, he has talked to you about that. neil: a wink and a nod, don't believe everything, now we have emails. charles: morgan stanley, people running around, they are walking on eggshells because they are worried there will be more involved. neil: don't you prefer emailing hillary clinton to the politicizing hillary clinton, what she said behind closed doors i hope is her real deal because it shows measured pragmatism that will not be allowed to come out if there is a full-scale democratic takeover of washington, some of this seems to show an ability to reason. charles: she almost, i wrote

about this earlier, sounded like reagan -- smaller government, less deficits, you keep the money you earn, it is stark. the question, like her husband if you think about it came out as a liberal the first two years and move progressively to the right, you could see her doing that if the republicans maintain control of the house and maybe the senate. neil: which is the real argument, the pragmatism she shows is refreshing. a lot of people, i am not getting into it -- charles: it is what we all prefer. the clintons you never know. they are political animals at another level, they will do whatever it takes. charles: the media might not let her. neil: did you see the shark? it is a metaphor what is going on because i think the shark

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the agenda. a meltdown was not on anyone's agenda but the consensus seems to be emerging and european circles, the government is not inclined to help. that is not worth the paper it is printed on. authorities in this country were saying the same about big money center banks before they went louis and they came to the rescue so i am relaying that sentiment and a lot of folks saying not likely. i want to get into this in the persian gulf and iran, saber rattling but if you heard what is coming out of russia warning it citizens be prepared for nuclear war, this is no joke, this is a big deal, former navy seal on what we might be missing on all of this. i never heard language like this, essentially saying come back home, they are bracing for

something or is this all fear, what do you make of it? >> they are not going to launch a nuclear war with us and we won't launch a nuclear war with them but president obama is afraid to do anything in regard to for so also portrayed by one of their propaganda in chief, from what i am reading i don't think the russian people seem that nervous, a propaganda movement by someone who doesn't -- neil: accidents can happen. russian and american planes over uncontrolled skies of syria, something could go wrong fast and before you know it whether it was publication, or russian planes bumping into american planes, but a lot of possible

provocation. >> there is a conflict in syria, we went to back the rebels, problem is nobody understand what is going on because there are four aspects to it but we won't go to nuclear war with russia or any war with russia because the global conflict and mutual assured destruction would be catastrophic and neither side wants that. any presidential candidate in 2016 definitely knows that. neil: accidents can happen, sometimes superpowers through the action of the most bizarre players are dragged something they don't want. >> you are right. the thing is say there was a conflict and had to shoot down a russian jet for buzzing an aircraft carrier i don't think it would escalate to nuclear war because we were in this in the cold war and we were able to de-escalate enough. the world leaders are smart

enough and articulate enough and well coordinated enough to say no one wants mushroom clouds over their major cities so let's take it down a notch and i can assure the russian people to my knowledge i don't think they should be worried. neil: nobody -- that should be the top negotiating point. that is our goal. >> if you don't i will push you in the shark cage. neil: thank you. update on that shark, donald trump caught in the cage, totally destroyed, eaten alive by media wanting to humiliate him. it looks like the great media shark won but look who comes waltzing out of the cage. the diver, the donald. a lot of his biggest factors saying he isn't all wet or underwater, he can survive.

neil: welcome back, getting ready for a donald trump appearance in greensboro, north carolina. it is not true. it is my metaphor of the week. and whether you agree or disagree with the media attacks, disproportionately favoring going after donald trump from but then his counterpart in this race 7-1 when talking to media minutes devoted to his controversy than hillary clinton's email controversy and you can see how that affected the evening news broadcast but also getting a sense that this might gain some traction for mister trump on the stump, that

if he relays those numbers you can feel sorry for him or he sounded like a whiner. let's go to presidential adviser ned ryan is what do you think? republicans have long bemoans conservatives, the media never gets there do. and these numbers indicate that. just deal with it. just deal with it and talking about them. >> we know the media took a left turn but in the last couple weeks all pretense has been dropped. look at the numbers. the last week has been about 200 minutes total trump tapes and similar stories and 24 minutes on wikileaks. neil: you are right. if you are donald trump how do you explain that he is right to

say it is disproportionate to put it mildly but is there any upside to saying that? >> it is. you saw with gallup in september that the trust of the american people in the media was at an all-time low in the 30s, he can use it to his advantage, one of those ing that is staggering when you look at what is taking place, spending 20 minutes on wikileaks and you think if this was a republican, the candidates taking tens of millions of dollars, they would be ripping the republican ad nausea him for weeks and weeks and you see a few minutes of incentive on this and what is becoming more apparent, whoever wins the white house you will see media outlets as losers but real journalism, you have opinion journalism and it is becoming absurd when journalists are trying to pose

real journalists, nothing but opinion journalists looking for tabloid outlets and the thing that is interesting, i was watching the debate with my 10-year-old and he leans over and said she is for hillary, isn't she? i said as a matter of fact she is. it is telling that if a 10-year-old who is just starting to get up to see this political stuff if he can lean over and tell me this is pretty obvious it is becoming more obvious to the american people the media is leaning towards more opinion journalism and bias than being real journalists. neil: you are going to go after donald trump by all means go after him, fine but try to approximate the revelations in these emails, he might have it coming, creates his own bomb,

but these emails indicate so does she. >> a republican talking about catholic spring or media latinos, new york times giving veto power to a republican candidate these would be headlines, headlines for weeks and it is barely being mentioned so i think post november 8th you will see something, they will be losers, a realignment and able to start asking who is able to give real news and let us decide, give us the facts and let the american people decide what we think of this instead of putting your thumb on the scale and trying bias in one direction. neil: go at it both ways catching up. what makes this more complicated, bringing down there nominee, and a 2 way street, paul ryan about to speak in

wisconsin, and and the house would be tougher. and giving up on the white house and hanging on to the senate and house. what do you think. >> make sure they have a republican majority in the house, what you will see in a few minutes, donald trump is effective in channeling the anger of the american electorate, you will see a serious speech and he is channeling the ideas, and the sluggish growth to 4% growth,

can't remove obamacare or dodd-frank without ideas, pushing his agenda a better way, he has a website but has the respect -- neil: no doubt, i agree with you on that but he just think i will not overtly support donald trump and say it. had he never said what he said, no one would know. but by saying what he said clearly conveying in a way, i wonder if he is helping his cause little alone mister trump. >> a lot of people are wondering whether it was a politically smart move to do that. what you will see today is he is a serious guy and no matter what happens, whether hillary is elected or donald trump the

house is going to get behind him as they did after john weiner left because he earned the respect of his colleagues based on the power -- neil: some of the conservative members, assuming republicans hang on to that but a lot are pissed off here. >> some i that but after the election that will be over for the house. donald trump has made mistakes when it comes to paul ryan, came in the summer and paul ryan is very respected. neil: paul ryan is more worried if trump wins then if trump loses. >> i don't think so. if you look at the ideas in his agenda in a better way he has a better chance getting those ideas forward with donald trump than with hillary clinton. what you will see today will prove that and it will focus on

hillary. neil: we shall see. i want to dip into the speech a little bit, paul ryan's comments, this eruption with donald trump. >> since ron johnson goes back to the senate, each and every one of you do make such a difference and the election as critical as this one, here the right -- get to the right of things today. this election, sometimes very dark turns which is exactly why it is important to take a step back and reflect on what this election is about come all the ugliness lies a long-running debate between two governing philosophies, one in keeping

with our nation's principles like freedom and equality and another seeks to replace them so at this time i would like to invite you to reflect on this choice we are facing here right now, as fractured and polarized as this country is a vast majority of americans, 7 out of 10 agree on something fundamental, they agree our country is on the wrong path, we have a chance to start solving our country's problems. we have a chance to save this country from decline and set it on the right path, a path lit with hope, liberty and self-determination, those core principles that set america apart. in elections we don't just decide who our leaders will be, we get to choose what kind of country we will have for years to come and the kind of america

we want, our allies trust and enemies fear the america we want. the america we want is a land of opportunity driven by individual spirit. you don't just live your life, you lead your life. you don't just get by, you get ahead and make the most of your potential. the america we want is a place where work is rewarded, where success is earned, ingenuity is exalted. the america we want, government exists to serve the people and instead of lecturing us our leaders listen to us, offer positive solutions to tackle our problems and sometimes, sometimes we put all those ideas on paper and put them on a website, i am told it looks great on any mobile device, that

is better done gop. this is the america we want, this is our party's vision for america. what vision do hillary clinton and her party offer the people? they want what america, that doesn't stand out. in america that is ordinary, a gloom grainy america. the america they want, the driving force is the state, a place where government takes away from the people, where we are ruled by our betters by a cold and unfeeling bureaucracy that replaces original thinking. a place where the government twixt the law and the constitution itself to suit its purposes. a place where liberty is under assault, where the stuff of life is extinguished. that is the america hillary clinton wants.

if given control of washington, if given control of congress, it is the kind of america she will stop at nothing to have. the america they want is remade in the mold of what is called liberal progressivism. liberal progressivism needs no introduction in madison. right? it is imported from socialist europe, got its start in america right here in madison, wisconsin. we are 10 minutes from the high school, i used to play over there. fighting bob, we called him, was part of the movement to address the legitimate grievances of the people, busting trusts, ending patronage, important reforms with good intentions, but the theory was if we enlarge the state, stock the bureaucracy with so-called experts and technocrats, who would decide what is best for the collective,

we would be better off and the idea had some appeal. it made little sense in a nation founded on the distrust of power but did have some appeal. but it didn't take long for this theory to be pulled back into its collective roots, central planning and organization. are betters became obsessed with bigger and bigger government ignoring constraints, constitutional and otherwise and arbitrarily picking winners and losers. well, the last eight years have been one long liberal progressive experiment. time and again we have been told if we just spend more money, create more programs to live under, more rules to live by, put one more wing on the great government this will solve all of our problems yet after all of that, we feel less safe and less secure, less free and less prosperous. as government grows, and less

faith and less trust. liberal progressivism simply does not work. it is the longest gone, preaches to us about stuffing out the striving at the heart of a free society. it should come as no surprise we are in the weakest economic recovery since the great depression, people are working longer hours for less, we are supposed to somehow accept this as a permanent new normal. just look at yourselves. all the work you put into getting this high quality education in madison leading to the moment you can strike out on your own. as tough as it has ever been to find a decent paying job that will help you tackle your debt and get you on the right path. this may be the worst thing about liberal progressivism. it actually hurts the very people it is claiming to

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neil: if you look at what is going on in iran in the persian

gulf area and iran, to counter our ships, and who the rebels shooting at our ships anything can go wrong and it wouldn't take much and the administration promised quick and decisive response to that, the former central command in the iraq war, with us right now. it wouldn't take much to turn this into a crisis. >> don't think it would be much of a crisis. there is no comparison capability. from what i understand the iranians shifted facts, one of them is a frigate, been around 45 years and the other is a small courtship, capacity, capability of us ships on station right now, gross over match. the bigger issue is the demonstration, continued unrest and instability in that part of the world, very critical, all

the traffic going out of the suez canal, only 20 miles wide, very important choke point. there won't be a significant direct threat from the iranians but something huge going on will be intimidating to commercial traffic, symptomatic of the unrest and lack of stability and that country. neil: you are quite right to say we have the advantage and everything technologically going for us but not to respond or chosen not to respond to that sort of thing. we are promising now we would you are assuming the other side is reasonable and pragmatic enough to think we don't want that but they are crazy. how do you deal with that?

>> not sure they are crazy, but they take risks. the deal here, because the place is ungoverned, they got their hands on these missiles taking pot shots, that is pretty bold. the fast high-speed vessel made a pretty big mess of that and overstepped them selves. neil: can we defend ourselves in that event if they do significant damage to us just with an errant missile? >> we would have to be asleep at the switch. our folks are well alerted they had a couple missiles fired at them. the ability of those guys to target us is suspect but you are right, it is chaotic. here is a good example, the guy who used to be the president of yemen had been the boss for 25

years. he told me they are a real problem, i need your help with these guys and now what we see, he is on their side trying to get back in power and the vast changes, kaleidoscope of activity and we are hard-pressed to keep a thumb on it so the recipe is to be vigilant, we have a lot of military over match at this spot, and the bigger issues are further in iraq and syria. neil: thank you for taking the time. depending what media listen to, something about emails, hillary clinton, a lot of people are offended by what they are hearing from mrs. clinton, everything from banks to trade

deals, she is open for free and unfettered trade. i am hoping what these emails a revealing isn't so bad. we will explain.

neil: paul ryan didn't take any questions but didn't mention donald trump by name, he mentioned hillary clinton a few times, the closest he has been to support donald trump that it would be a mistake going the progressive route but no critical comments about donald trump weather and olive branch as it was and if it were, donald trump wouldn't be saying what he has been saying. it is as simple as that. the other side, what is going on with hillary clinton, emails diametrically opposed, the

comments she has made in public. i heard what she said on these emails, talked about them not being so bad, she thinks capitalism should be thriving, and if you are not being treated fairly send their money somewhere else. she has a pragmatic view. and and not abusive capitalist. the weekly standard's kelly jane, and if that is the real hillary clinton, it is fine by me, don't know what it is, and rabid leftist supporters have been leery of whether she feels a lot of these in her bones but what do you make of what seems

to be a contradiction. >> she has a tough line to walk, the democratic base, especially the sanders supporters she hopes to win over and get out on november 8th and vote for her want her to be a no compromise progressive but the fact is she won the primary against bernie sanders by giving up so many core beliefs, she was for tpp, came out against it because of sanders, she was against raising the minimum wage like bernie sanders wanted to, she folded on that too, she has proven she is willing to say anything to win. neil: real hillary. it would depend if she did get elected president, would take one or both to the congress with her. in that event you become increasingly progressive or liberal and you saw that with barack obama his first two

years, if that were the case would she go the same hard left route? >> she is not going to have a mandate to do so. the country is very split and if she wins it will only be because republicans have a candidate more disliked than she is. she has to compromise no matter what happens, she does not have a mandate to go hard left and it should not be hard for her, she is willing to abandon every belief she ever had in her quest to be the most powerful person in the country. neil: took one or both houses with her and under pressure to do the bidding and follow that progressive script. >> that is true. the base can be split on these issues, keystone is one of the issues she herself, can she say something without saying something, don't want her to say i am against it and look what

happened with obama, the environmental base against the keystone pipeline but the union base were for it because it would bring tons of high-paying jobs, he picked one over the other and hillary will have to make the same calculations if she wins. neil: talking business so long i am pragmatic when it comes to this stuff. i just think what should be most important is getting stuff done and showing willingness to compromise on a lot of issues to get stuff done. seems to indicate a lot of these emails, whether that is the real her, she is open to that if given the opportunity, that is what i would like to see. >> it is funny because a lot of the democratic supporters on the progressive side have been pretty upset about the leaks and finding out what she thought but -- neil: i like the leaks. >> a lot of conservative republicans are saying if this

is the real hillary maybe she won't be such a bad president after all. neil: you never know, we are watching closely, the weekly standard managing editor. paul ryan came back, we are monitoring that and also said chief janet yellen, she is addressing a crowd in boston, telegraphing what she might or might not do, the federal reserve meetings, everyone betting on the december election behind us and the federal reserve hiking rates, we will see what she has to say, probably -- that is what the fed chief do. people are looking for things like economy ticking up, the pace of the recovery picking up which would indicate rates going up. we are on it.

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neil: all right, we're keeping eye on janet yellen speaking in boston. she says she will raise rate as quarter point, this month, next month, month after that, another month, three more points next year, six more points after that. kidding. kidding. waned to sigh if you were paying attention, america. she is not telegraphing what her plans are. looking at variables, improving economy, steady as she goes, what various fed officials have been saying for months but the betting seems to be, you know how that goes, that they will move to hike rates in december after the election is behind

them and whoever gets elected. not worked out to script once they started process a year ago. it was one and apparently done. all right. we'll see what happens now. we have gerri willis joining us. charles payne, lindsey piegza. we have survey out from the "wall street journal" this is as bold as economists get. they asked them in the next four years, is there possibility of a recession? oh, yeah. 60% see that as very likely. bold, charles payne. that is probably a gimme, that sometime in the next four years we could be looking at that but what do you make of that? >> there definitely will be a major snowstorm in new england area between this january and 2021. neil: i know they're is cautious bunch. >> who can tell the economy is so funky. we would never know unless we went into recession. neil: i'm saying there is possibility of a slowdown.

>> beware. now what action do i take? i think overarching theme the economy is still in something akin to first greer. and people should wonder all all of this time, all the stimulus, all this help, why. if there is anything to get it done out of first gear. neil: well-put. lindsey, we always know, it was unrealistic to keep rates this long and this low. it has been this low. one fed official to another is telegraphing it is about to change but it doesn't change. i don't know, in the end, if janet yellen deals with this, what she says to tip where she is leaning but they all same to be leaning with a rate hike. increasingly betting seems to be december. do you agree? >> we see fed officials are increasingly anxious to raise rates. but as we saw. neil: why are they anxious to raise rates?

why? >> we've been at low levels for such unextended period of time in historical basis given at these levels they would expect economy would gain momentum. they don't want to fall behind the curve. that is the these sis of hawks, we need to start raising rates now, eventually the at some time the economy will pick up speed. on the flip side we hear from the doves that there is no evidence that the economy is gaining momentum. we're seeing inflation pick up. we're talking about 1% average growth across the first six months of the year. by the fed's own internal forecast, they don't expect this year's growth level to reach new lowered bar of 2%. there is no evidence that low rates have had the usual positive effect on the economy as they have in the past. and here we sit at this slowly, non-accelerating growth rate, slowly bleeding into a possible recession over the next couple years. >> do you think, despite the bold prediction on part of

economists, a slow, tepid recovery like we've been seeing, does stretch out the period you normally see recession kick in. >> i think all the old rules are broken. if you're in a hole stop digging. that is what we should tell the fed. they're not just hurting -- banks are complaining about low rates. average americans who are getting killed. neil: but is there inflation? do you see inflation? ultimately what they raise rates for. >> they're all talking about jobs. yes, inflation, unfortunately janet yellen talking about impact of fed on jobs. there is concern about some of them in this meeting this week, possibly what is going on in the background if we hold the rates low a little bit longer, people will jump into the job market. it hasn't happened so far. what makes you think it will happen now? time to rethink our assumptions and get busy with helping people who are near or in retirement. neil: what do you think? >> well, for the fed those are not people that move the needle did, right? they're looking for that

virtuous cycle. they're looking for people to have the feeling they're wealthy because of market or any other asset to spend money, whethert,t up. that is the problem they're facing, the job situation, which had so-called jolts report which is very important number for janet yellen the talk about how many job openings there are. dropped 7% in one month. real interesting thing. one official last time voted for rate hike, he is looking at bubbles, more specifically, commercial real estate. if there is no inflation why would they take action? they might be concerned asset bubbles gotten away from them and they pose a greater risk to society then they would be willing to admit. neil: in other words, people buying 85 million-dollar house or condos in miami first sign -- >> we're getting first signs. we're getting through variety of different things, recent report from cochran. they built so many of them.

12 stories tall, 100 million-dollar apartments can we have in new york city. neil: you have two. >> but after that -- >> then you have four. neil: is it right in your bucket, lindsey, we'll pass it off these guys as well, we're hearing now that that sales fors bidding out ruling for twitter. that is from "the financial times." a lot of people are crunching numbers on deals, i know twitter is a unique case, but if wall street backs away from deals if there is sense deals are not slam dungs they used to be, or slam dungs they thought they could be to sustain the market, that is whole another sticky part of this equation, right? >> well it certainly is. equity market volatility or as charles alluded to, asset price bubbles, yes, these are other variables that the fed is watching. first and foremost they are going to focus on the dual mandate, stable prices and full employment.

going to what gerry said, interest rates at these levels, that is how we create jobs. they take on credit. they start business. they grow businesses. that is where we start to see the job creation draw down pool of available labor. really the question is not how accommodative monetary policy stay, but why isn't fiscal policy accompanying monetary policy. >> that is not going to happen. >> so businesses take advantage of that policy. that is the missing component. neil: i'm running way over, where do you -- if not federal reserve? barack obama wherever he was in ohio, patting himself on the back for stewardship economy and great comeback, without the fed where would economy be, where would the market be, what do you guys think? >> i think we would go through a rougher period without the fed early on but true animal spirits they try to manipulate would come out on their own. i'm not a big fan of the fed. i wish they wouldn't exist honestly.

i agree with what lindsey is saying. fiscal policy, all free helicopter policy, if taxes heat up it wouldn't -- neil: i think market is propped up through easy money i think woe be in a lot worse shape for all the wrong reasons. that is my fear. >> i think we overestimated exactly what these central banks can do. having a bad effect on a lot of people. we're concerned with a small number of them. but lots of americans need higher rates. they need a more legitimate marketplace and they don't individual. neil: guys, i want to thank you all. media seems fixated going after one candidate. back to my shark metaphor i think is a handy-dandy reference point. think of media the great white shark that escaped from that cage. it is disproportionately after said diver in that cage, while safe for now, the media goes after chomping away at him. you think, oh my god, trump is finish inned. the diver is finished.

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neil: all right, you think markets are anxious about this upcoming election and whether the house or senate goes. who knows. but small businesses are even more so. their anxiety high because of anxiety around this election. joining us now juanita dougan, nfib president and ceo. a lot of nervousness out there, huh? >> well, we have a new index that has come out, neil, and thank you for having me on, that is showing a 42-year high in uncertainty among small business owners. and this is unprecedented. we know it is directly related to the elections and uncertainty surrounding -- neil: uncertainly about the

outcome or the uncertainty, i talk to many of your representatives, i think you and i chatted about this, the consensus hillary clinton would be heart to beat. now this idea she might in that scenario take house and or senate with them, is that a concern? >> yes, i think that the entire structure of this election has created an uncertainty among small business owners. we see it in the new survey. they answer questions such as, what are the next three months going to look like? are you going to by inventory, are you going to hire or expand in in way? when they say don't know, uncertain, that is an unusual thing. they usually say yes or no. but the uncertainty index now is at a 42-year high. neil: if they want relief, most want lower taxes, but most of your members want regulatory relief. if they had their druthers that would be first and foremost. that is kind of weird. >> we would agree with that.

the small business owners are definitely sick of last eight years of ball and chain regulatory actions. certainly mrs. clinton published a lot of policy positions that are in the same vain. no minimum wage hikes and many other mandates on small business owners for employment in particular. so, their concerns are real but the fact that they have no way to plan, and they don't know what is going to happen, but they are always waiting to find out how government is going to make it harder to run their business. neil: they worry no matter who it is in charge, that is inexorably to be case. thank you very much. although breaking news. meantime of role of third parties or party could play in the most unusual of states, including utah, after this.

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neil: i also want to get your sense of what hillary campaign seems to be saying about these other outside party candidates, that they're a wasted vote. what do you say, when you hear that? >> they're not wasted vote at all. they get things underway that two parties are ignoring taken off the table. >> the problem this year in the election is not third parties, it is r party and d party who think they have a right to monopoly in washington, d.c. >> i'm a candidate like they are. it is three-way race in utah between hillary clinton, donald trump and me. neil: there are a lot of third party candidates in this race. connell mcshane how they could factor in this election. reporter: the interesting one is evan mcmullin, no one was talking about him where we saw numbers in utah, 20%. wait a minute, utah could go the other way. we've taken utah as off map

solidly red state because it is toss-up. it is usually solid in the republican column. mcmullin is only on 84 ballots. it could affect some. race in terms of projection in the electoral college, as you look at utah numbers he would get more attention. matt welch at "reason" magazine. i was reaching reading a piece i wrote. colorado, iowa, mcmullin is targeting n johnson they have been polling him. you know where he is at, 7, 8%, depending in the states. mcmullin they aren't. if you get really close state, example he gave was iowa where donald trump is up a few points in the average. all of sudden mcmullin comes in and haven't been polling at all, does it take it away from trump more of a toss upor blue state. i don't know but it is interesting. neil: what is interesting at very least it tips it more, depending on the state, you're

quite right to hillary clinton where you have the possibility that she could, she could win utah. she could win colorado. she could win a lot of states where she has been surging anyway but that presence changes the dynamics quite a bit. reporter: because mcmullin is clear in the states that he is in, few that we do have numbers on he is taking away from trump. he is taking away from the republican side. neil: johnson takes more from hillary. reporter: right. go into a state like ohio, for example, which is pretty much a toss-up and does johnson take away more there. i think it would be getting a lot ever more attention if the race was closer, electoral college. neil: connell, thank you very much. mcmullin would be the first candidate to gain electoral votes if he win that last outside candidate to do that was george wallace back in 1968. can you imagine? we'll have more after this.

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. neil: all right, we're awaiting to hear what donald trump has to say in greensboro, north carolina, the war is on with the press, when it comes to paul ryan. speaker had nothing nasty to say about the presidential candidate. we'll see if that goes the other way from donald trump. all right, trish regan, to you. trish: indeed, we will. i have a hunch it won't work both ways on this one. neil: i have a feeling. trish: you're looking at this live picture out of greensboro, north carolina, where donald trump is going to speak at a rally. he may take aim at paul ryan, may take aim at media. we shall see. north carolina is a must-win state for donald trump. he needs to stick to his message. talk about the economy. he needs to talk about isis, because a brand-new poll right now shows him trailing hillary clinton by four points in the tar heel state. i'm trish regan, welcome everyone to "the intelligence report."