it devolves into a shouting match, hope that is not the case. stuart: she is winning at this point, to step back and let him lose. liz: single digit double-digit lead, go after it. stuart: this time tomorrow we will find out what transpired, neil cavuto, it is yours. neil: we are 9 hours from the big debate, the pressure is on donald trump as the guy who got to overcome, that does not look good. there is a great deal of wiggle room in these numbers, we found out there are a lot of people undecided in this race, among some groups it is soft, that could mean a possible turn, means almost a perfect turn of eventss, like donald trump every step of the way, that at this stage, it is possible but pivotal. blake berman, the one crisis

finally getting belated media attention does not look good for hillary clinton, wikileaks and what is coming out now, some newspapers, front-page attention. >> the wikileaks drip drip drip for hillary clinton continues on this day. another batch of emails, some of them are still going through and the clinton campaign was specifically asked about this leading into the debate, how prepared is hillary clinton to take on whatever comes out of wikileaks and whatever she asked about, not only prepared for that but to talk about the quid pro quo allegations in the state department and the fbi, that is part of the reason she is off to the sidelines doing this debate prep, talking how hillary

clinton might combat wikileaks. >> we assume wikileaks will come up, we will provide context for that if the debate should focus on extraordinary and unprecedented, trying to influence -- >> you just look a little to the east of us in arizona and there is a brand-new poll out that has hillary clinton up 5 points, arizona is a state republicans won 9 of the last 10 presidential elections, by 8 points, there were 39, trump 34. there was one number within that poll raising eyebrows, 21% of those polled in arizona say they are still undecided. that brings up two potential issues, that much in that state,

we see half of that nationwide, and and questions to be asked and so much to be solved on this night going forward. neil: blake berman, much will be decided, attaching a lot of wikileaks protections, arguments he made that she lied, can't be trusted, says one thing, behind closed doors, her own folks are working in place with president obama's administration to say nothing of back and forth with the state department and fbi, you know the drill, cochairman supporting donald trump, it is

almost a perfect stream of eventss that has to go your candidate's way. when we look at these polls and show 20% undecided in arizona that seems like a very high number of undecided voters. we have seen numbers not quite as high in a variety of states. the traditional view is a lot of undecided voters -- they are not saying it. >> i believe there is a low propensity voter. he is bringing new voters into this process. you have voters that haven't voted in the last we for elections, they voted at one time and asked for elections or none. there will be a higher turnout for donald trump and hillary clinton. hillary clinton is not a candidate of enthusiasm, donald trump is. you will see that november 8th. neil: what if he branches out into personal attacks?

much the same, denigrated something like that, what do you make of that and what he has to do to keep the focus on these issues? >> he is with the american people, and have yet to see what her plans are on illegal immigration and wikileaks a her plans are open borders which i have yet to see her jobs plan. we know her tax plan and that is a contract between herself and donald trump and created wealth for the country and national defense and security. i would like to see him contrast his main issues against hers. stuart: i am not aware -- your group is putting out, we don't see a great many donald trump ads, we have seen a lot of hillary clinton ads. that is where money has come in handy. it might account for a lot of swing states. are you worried your candidate's message is not getting out

there, it is not nearly as much money. >> i can tell you from our standpoint, rudy giuliani, and benghazi, there is no greater contrast between donald trump and hillary clinton, national security and creating jobs so we focused on that. one of them being in nevada, if he could turn out the vote. stuart: neil: even in nevada, down 7 points. it seems to be a recent trend. in nevada, texas, georgia, north carolina down across the board, mid-single digits in florida and on and on, that wasn't supposed

to go, arizona, safe republican state, what is going on? >> two things, there were a bad couple weeks, he's rebounding nicely and will reshape his message. the major issues cited between now and november 8th, turn out these new voters, that is what the campaign is all about. bernie sanders was doing that on the primary side. new voters were never part of the process in the polls. neil: thank you, we should -- there is some truth to that and the polling methods out there, a lot of these new trump voters figured into that and that -- the possibility this will be another brexit, the agreement

that the president of colombia scored, it didn't. looked like it was going to win by 35 points. you know what happened with brexit, looked like it was down to defeat, 5 or 6 points. the fact of the matter is, there is a populist pattern, when the polls get outside, to compensate mightily for that. and from the polls say allowing for a trump surge it isn't reflected in our data. we probably won't know until election day. look at the corner of wall and broad, holding off here so things could get worse or have a

contagion, the 29th anniversary of the stock market crash, triggered financial concerns in europe. the same catalysts and play with worries about deutsche bank, nicole pedallides on the floor of the stock exchange. nicole: you are bringing some history into this. and marginally good news from the banks today from morgan stanley came in with a good quarter profit on the rise, up 1/2%, bank of america and jpmorgan, bond trading in particular has improved and they are benefiting am a we heard from morgan stanley that they are benefiting from the british exit news and are doing well, how does this tie into the

elections? the clinton campaign tried to say they are anti-wall street and at the same time accepted millions of dollars for her speeches, goldman sachs for example, less regulation, and these things come into play, financial looking pretty good today and as i noted for the week with arrows. neil: i cannot believe in 29 years, it wasn't -- we are in las vegas, the site of the third and final presidential debate, you heard a lot of talk -- each candidate won the debate but this is the deciding one. a far bigger development is wikileaks, getting media attention is going to come up

tonight. what we don't know is whether people will talk about the cozy relationship hillary clinton has with many media members that are reporting on her. not only cozy, kind of icky.

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neil: looking inside the debate in las vegas there are studies out that say the races -- debate don't move the needle much on collection. they can confirm it trend or slow or reverse a trend lose some that have had a big

difference include ronald reagan and jimmy carter, that was a one and only days before the presidential election that did make a difference. it is in the eye of the beholder how you see things, it can confirm a trend or stop that trend but whether it moves to decide one way or the other, given the fact we have seen so many undecided voters, 20%, seems like an unusually high figure. if there are that many undecided it is a deal closer. hard to say but things that could move it have to do with what is mentioned back and forth, the wikileaks, more to the point, who is exchanging them? many in the establishment media which goes a long way toward explaining why many in the media are reluctant to share the latest batch. peter barnes with more on that. >> reporter: donald trump saying

the media has rigged the election in favor of hillary clinton and inciting some of these wikileaks emails as evidence and there have been a number of them between john harwood and clinton campaign chairman john podesta including one today from the dump today from september 2015 showing harwood marking reporters who pressed hillary clinton on the private email scandal, it reads, quote, amazing is that some people still think it is worth burning so much energy with a person most likely to be next president on her emails. was he trashing her colleague chuck todd some are asking? it turns out the same day, september 27, 2015, chuck todd, the moderator of meet the press was interviewing hillary

clinton. also a note of caution on these emails from marco rubio to his fellow republicans, we assume that also means to donald trump. in a statement today, quote, i will not discuss any issue that has become public on the basis of wikileaks. as our intelligence agencies have said these leaks are an effort by a foreign government to interfere with our electoral process and i will not indulge, and i want to warn my fellow republicans who want to capitalize politically on these leaks, today it is the democrats, tomorrow it could be us. neil: thank you very much, peter barnes. democratic focus chairman, democratic congressman from california, congressman, what do you make of the wikileaks leaks of stuff that is out there and the fact that one after the other seems to show at least the cozy, cozier than we thought relationship between average

media folks and hillary clinton's campaign? >> i am not sure what to think of what wikileaks is doing and not sure what to make of what the russians and vladimir putin are trying to do with our electoral process, it behooves all of us to stick to the facts but we are only three weeks away from a major election and when voters go to the polls, they decision based on facts not on innuendo, and some suspicion of what may have been said or written without proof. neil: you subscribe the same standard. should they be vetted, and i see a double standard there.

>> i am an attorney. when someone said what happened to him or her versus some document leaked electronically, we have no idea what the source is -- neil: why is it different? checking out something for accuracy means a lot. >> you check something for accuracy, if i thought -- i saw you at the bar last night, we could check that for accuracy because you can come to me and say i thought neil late at night. i never said that. neil: i was at the bar. you see what i am saying? you are an honorable man and a decent guy in the patriot but the collect the democratic response is the russians -- >> don't complain. proved to me -- neil: you are ignoring them altogether. >> proved to me what wikileaks

put out, it came out from. wikileaks is not here to prove it but i could prove to you neil cavuto was at the bar last night, i said it, but require real evidence, not hearsay. you start relying on hearsay. neil: you are not getting what i am saying. there is no doubt, on the part of democrats who want to seize on women accusing donald trump of all those things, to check out this story, to go to great lengths to make sure their charges -- fine. if that is where you want to go. great discretion, great reserve. a collusion between establishment media and the hillary campaign. >> i hear your point.

neil: we have definitions of fruit. >> we do because i can bite into this truth, i can say i said that but you can't prove what wikileaks put out is from a real validated source. i hear your point. just because the woman already individual says something recuses someone, donald trump doesn't mean it is true. they -- you can't go back in history to prove what these women are saying. it says -- neil: i will play your logic for a second. america's logic. i am asking you this. >> it is not hearsay. i will ask you this.

point out in these wikileaks. listen to me. if it is proven what hillary clinton says in public is very different than she says to private groups, very different than she tells bankers, different to those concerned about her positions on trade, if -- this is what is coming out in wikileaks documents. if it is true hillary clinton -- because of that, would you say that bears attention, that bears watching. >> i see where you are going and i would say no but i would say this. neil: you would say no. >> if a woman has accused donald trump of sexual assault doesn't mean he committed sexual assault. there is evidence he may have committed sexual assault. he has a right in america -- neil: something in wikileaks,

there might be smoke where there is phony fire. a candidates is one thing, and another behind their back. wouldn't that bear the same attention? >> smoke is different from the fire. you are playing with a lot of smoke. i am dealing with fire. i hear your point. neil: if they are proven real, what would you say? >> you are going a long way but even if they were proven real it doesn't mean she committed a crime. if proven real these women say donald trump committed what he say he committed he committed a crime and that is very different from believing someone may have spoken -- neil: it would be a crime back and forth between the fbi and state department officials.

it is a crime. getting bad stuff on trump is important to you, getting bad stuff on hillary clinton is not important. >> that is your way of interpreting. neil: are you a lawyer? i am not which i don't have to be a lawyer to know you have a double standard. >> i follow the standard american democracy has used for a long time and that is real evidence. neil: that is not my standard. that is not a fair debate. >> we would be in real trouble. neil: we are in real trouble when a high-ranking united states congressman who i greatly respect adoring avenue -- ignoring everything coming out. you ignored everything i raised with you. >> hillary clinton mentioned this whole deal with the email is something she regretted and she apologized but it is not criminal. of donald trump did what he said he did it is criminal.

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they can't be too close to the clintons. and they're frantic about where they can be. it's not quite the same thing. it is my favorite part of these debates. in the meantime we are following what's going on in the sin city. certainly when it comes to donald trump they are giving and they're not getting in the numbers they could have as past charlie, what are you finding out. >> right here in vegas. he pledged hundred million dollars to donald trump's campaign this guy is a very prolific campaign contributor if you looked at the last

numbers it was down. they've spoken to them directly. losing a lot of patients. they sent trump an e-mail to stop attacking they also said to go after clinton. they say what frustrates you the most? he believes that he doesn't listen to anyone. there you have it. if you want a rationale.

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neil: during the break we were discussing the most pertinent economic issues that are affecting the country. do we want bigger government. and do we want more taxes to pay for it or not. the personalities not

outstanding. i came down to something far more basic than that. in this back-and-forth about taxes is the rich should pay their fair share. because all the way up to 65%. what do you think of that. what is the fair share to you how we define fair share. it was paid to the united states government. that would suggest that something unfair when you hear

politicians a fair share your talking about hypocritical, political propaganda. who is in pain taxes. it's a simple subject. this is one of those perfect examples in conversation and i don't say that defensively because i am a high earning person i've paid quite a few taxes since 2000. and i've been very lucky. the minute someone talks about fair share your talking about a thief.

where you cut the taxes across the board. for everybody. the big tax cut was on corporate tax. when the policies you just had the tv stuff at your disposal. in business and in life and in the raising of the children what do we do fundamentally. with all of that money offshore because the taxes in america are excessively high for businesses what is wrong with saying hey, you bring back that two or three trillion and if you can show me the 20 cents on every dollar that goes directly to that that's your tax. bring the money back.

go create jobs. they create taxpayers. they benefit society as a whole. your philosophy seems more in line in trump than clinton. i would be very anxious. more in keeping with donald trump that's the point. i haven't have this conversation. i wouldn't be a bit surprised if hillary clinton didn't agree.

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all of this time if you think about it much of the intention is can be at the rallies that they're inspired by trump knotts i don't see the media trying to correct that story. i think so much has been coming out about her past and present and what she would bring in the future that's overwhelming to them into the press and it is forced then and to report on some of these things. there might be something to this. the first day a couple of the issues have laid it on the front page i'm beginning to think a lot of this with the revelation after revelation

pattern here we really can't ignore this. i think you can have a good showing tonight. the most important thing i think is what is happening with all of these people and entities are coming up in the revealing that's a real sign of desperation. second happen with the reaction of the american

people and shutting him down. it's something that only a desperate group of people would do. >> he is responsible for these it's too late for that. >> i think the people are going to get really upset with that and it was a big risk for them to take for obama to get involved and punish in some way. in some way threaten the government. the reality here is that the polls are off. just with the local polls taken in various areas don't justify what were seen in the national polls. somehow there are skewing them. they did a fairly good job. they came out 42-42. but the other pole is just insane. one of them shows clinton with a ten-point lead.

they're out of sorts because they are not able to pick up the democratic crossover vote. and they don't want too. they don't want to attempt it. and not sinful. the american people are being misled. they're trying to suppress the trump vote. i think the american people have turned that off. would have to reverse a lot of holes. election date will tell. thank you very much. we have to jack up our premiums. they are going beyond but

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certainly has to be the affordable care act. it's not looking nearly as affordable. you are seen premiums go up. and up substantially. >> when you have this. it is a frugal attempt. but yes healthcare in the affordable care act which as you report is not nearly so affordable. they're out with an analysis of 50 states which finds that in eight states in the u.s. local regulators have actually approved an increase higher than the insurers ask for. that's because they are concerned if they don't get a high enough premium will go out of business. in pencil vineyard alone.

the increased an increase of 33 percent. in 12 states they approved it less of an increase by an almost every case premiums are going up and in many cases by as many as 80 to 85% in some cases on the theme here. how it could be insurance companies try to threaten their way into a to a more generous increase. if we don't get what we want her out of these exchanges. it's almost like a bribe. some states there are counties

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all right welcome everybody. they all say the same thing. donald trump has some work cut out for him if he wants to reverse the trend. but when you look in the numbers deep inside the numbers you realize that there are a lot of still undecided voters nevertheless a lot of states it was almost exclusively republican that lock is not sure thing. we told you about arizona.

we told you about a red state like texas now she did pink. they are having a great deal of trouble in utah because of the emergence of a third party. they're giving this race is a real different complexion. could all that be sorted out and reversed absolutely. i hope i got that right. the usa -- the u.s. today reporter. i apologize for that. what is your sense of this. i think we showed one state with 20% or undecided. i can imagine a mini at this stage of the game were excited. there is certainly the potential that there is a trump vote but we don't see a ton of evidence of that across

the entire electoral map. a sense of how all of these boiled down in terms of electoral map. if you include all of the states where hillary clinton leads four points or more which is outside the margin of error that gives her about 304 electoral votes. as you know it's 270 to win. i think that's why what you're hearing right now across the political area. it would take and miracle at this point to turn this around that's where they're coming from. >> has it been turned around many people refer to that with harry truman. pulling it was nothing was nothing like it is today. they also point to ronald reagan and depending on the

pole was running even. is there a precedent for a comeback that would be necessary . >> it's very unusual for them to have it. what i would point you to is that demographic movements. the direction. is he making up ground or losing ground. what you see is for instance white voters. it wasn't enough for him to win. donald trump is taking white voters by ten percentage points a seven-point decrease from 2012. that's important. you look at the republican base. donald trump has about 80% support among the republican

base. this is how all of these numbers translate down to the demographic and human level. in terms of moving in the wrong direction donald trump's base is among male voters. that is taking those numbers down to micro demographic level and looking at the fact that they are moving away from him not towards him and that's why it's troubling for trump at this point. you want to be making up ground at this point not losing it. a great read on how things are going right now. as for right now. a lot of the supporters like two-point out that this would be like another brexit. it would looks like it would be shot down. we know what happened in the polls were wrong.

they were wrong and columbia. it looks like it would pass with voters in columbia. it did not. they rejected it. a lot of them tell that lightning will strike again. they cannot account for worldwide but they will miss the boat in our country. i'm told he was great with the boston red sox but whatever. he is a big donald trump backer. he does see something about it when they will support donald trump. and that has been your feeling. that that support is underrepresented in the polls. you mentioned 48 and 80. the elections. those are very different times and the country. it wasn't a media dead set against one candidate like we have now. and that to me is the overriding factor because the

world that i am out in his not reflective of what the polls are saying. it's as important as anything i don't think lightning has to strike. i think you're gonna see what amounts to a political revolution. i think there's an enormous amount of supporters that are not being pulled or are not coming out as the supporter. the democrats were being over sampled by 15 to 20%. for all intensive purposes i believe they want to get henry clinton elected no matter what. let's say that the case let's say that they understate that. there is a seven to ten-point gap there. that would be a lot of ground to make up. >> i would ask in the last ten

to 12 days what has happened to cause him to lose support. i am agreed what what you're saying. the trump stuff gets a lot of attention. there was a report of the other day. it was on and be -- megabyte nbc. i get it. it is lopsided let me ask you about that. we are seen and that the media has been guilt that it may be because we had been pounding this imbalance to every other story. to at least report more of this and well likely come up in the debate. if your donald trump and you want to look at these two

different hillary's how we do it amanda is very clear. if you're not talking about the horror that she has inflicted in 26 years or specifically what you're gonna going to do to fix it don't talk. i think he should open up tonight by saying i'm in a i ministered off tonight's debate by saying i'm sorry i'm a grown man i've clearly said things i shouldn't have said. there is no place where they are appropriate. but i need to focus on what we're talking about an issue is it's good to be her or me. this woman has been about herself. all the things that they are proving to us not for one second has she ever made a decision that would put country before herself. i think people need to understand that's what we are talking about.

>> lismore and has come out and tweeted about donald trump seen the whole process is max backed against them. what do you think of that. i think that is typical. you talk about a toothless politician she is the epitome of this. she grandstands on tv last week. but she's been lauded for created that financial oversight committee that has the ability to do absolutely nothing. they resigned with a nine figure pay out but she got hurt 30 seconds on tv so i guess that's good. but your definitely challenging her now. what's the deal.

you got me in so much trouble at home. in my mind i want to make the move but it's a family decision. given the last year or two we've come to understand the conservative candidates are targets. there on the table. it have to be without my family been tempered to do it. >> from the last time we chatted i'm sure you have a chance to get back with your family. >> we haven't head that serious conversation. both at home and abroad.

it's a legitimate thing. it's everybody in the same room sit down this is what could happen and what might happen of all people i say a lot and i'm sure there's a lot of things i've said in the past that will surface. there will be things in for me the challenge will be to get away from defending every quote in the and sound bite and send focus on the issues and what massachusetts cares about. it sounds like they dropped the ball. and they're not where there of employment as long as they're not yankees fans they are good. no problem with that. thank you very much.

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>> i don't think they wasted that when it came out with billy bush. we played at that tape we went into the as well. but we also went into this. fair and balanced kind of matters to us. why is there not much coverage and revelation on that tape. to show that they were planning to disrupt the rallies. democrats were even talking about coming in cars instead of buses. why was there a little attention paid to the pay for play among others democrats tried to get up forces to do just that at that trumpet rally. you would think.

tony perkins on what is not very fair and balanced about that. that is a pretty big double standard there. it was very significant because yesterday president obama they were saying that we might have russian actors that would hack into our election system. we know it's not russian actors that we have to be concerned about bad actors here on the political left. 96 percent of them.

it is what it is. people just accept that. midterms locals. going after donald trump and what he has said even if they're 11 years old head at it. it might be embarrassing to democrats is but a fraction of the coverage devoted of the republican candidate. doing what is right and in the best interests of the country has always been difficult. what is easy is to stick with the crowd and the media they favored hillary clinton it's obvious they have to realize

because of the tactics and the suppression of voter turnout among conservative voters they have some votes. they are at the polls watching to make sure that those that are associated with groups i keep hearing from a lot of trumpet supporters for that to be true we would have to have

a big swing of them i do think this. we only had in identical evidence. i also go back about ten years when marriage amendments were unbalanced with the state. they were seven percentage points. they were afraid that they would be labeled some negative name. this is by design by the left. it comes right out of that. you want to marginalized voters. so that they identify. i do believe they are under pulling. maybe five to 7% i do know what is critical is people who had questions about donald trump and his character those two things 01 and other out.

and now comes on the policy, it comes on the party platforms and those two cases the contrast cannot be more clear some people need to go vote the party platforms. thank you very much i stress here i think he hates the show. my point is this if you can a cover the flaws in the problems of one candidate do the same for her. i've to teenage sons.

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the truth to be what they said it put out is actually coming from the people that said it came out from. >> what's your advice. getting the bad stuff on hillary clinton is not important to you. that is your way of interpreting it. with the united states congressman. congressman. they are ignoring everything that's coming out as of what they're releasing. i don't know.

>> welcome back everybody. apples and oranges. the both proof. couple the -- cover the apple cover the oranges. couple -- cover only the apples are cover only the oranges. that's how it's gotten. how astonishing is it that a u.s. congressman is willing to get the dirt on one candidate but not willing to do a little self-examination on another candidate. we are to be fair about this stuff. in the interest of fairness you need to cover all of it and part of that is wikileaks. it's interesting also. this idea that those don't

matter because the convenient excuse to fall back on its the russians who expose them. if you held to that view you would have never covered the pentagon papers because it was leaked out. you would've never gotten a lot of major scandals that come to light because they were dumped or hacked or whatever. you wouldn't even won't even report on the stories. we see a double standard. as you will know you got the mainstream media trying to solve for its own they don't want to report on all of these bad things and frankly a lot of them often. you see some members of the mainstream media effectively kissing up.

you do not send your story to someone like that four actually runs. the media has been reluctant to cover this in the campaign itself they campaign just keep saying it's just russia. if it's russia then she ought to do a better job of securing her server. clearly the russians don't have that. it is a weak excuse. we absolutely need to be covering it. they say hey when i get a good near this. he's not willing to do it because he said luck they could look they could do the same thing to us. i can better believe that the mainstream media in the clinton campaign if they have the group goods on all of the republicans they could they would be using it as well. in checking those eyes and crossing the t's. nvidia's that came out. sometimes decades after the fact.

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>> county down to the final presidential debate. live from las vegas, here is neil cavuto. neil: we're getting closer and closer to the debate which will be happening in that big ol' buildings behind me. every day i do a broadcast we're getting closer and closer. the question, can donald trump turn this thing around? you argue the rubber match and each one a debate can donald trump do enough to send message back to reverse trend in the polls. trump loyalists say, clinton loyalists say, trump loyalists, don't believe numbers, they're not remotely accurate. you have to follow the money to see where that sentiment is going. despite what a number said on this broadcast, a lot of them who control the purse strings are not opening them up for one donald trump. get read, john tatum. big gop donor. john, one of the things we heard, the likes of sheldon adelson and others they're giving money but they're not giving a lot of money and played

out across the country, beyond just, you know, places like las vegas. is that true? is what, potentially driving it, these allegations that have come out, on mr. trump and comments he made about and to women? what is it? >> well, neil, i think mr. adelson definitely has given a lot of money. which my standards for sure it's a lot of money. i don't think everybody is leaving them. everybody will be together in a lunch about an hour i see mr. adelson with mr. trump in las vegas in an hour. neil: whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. who is going to be at that lunch? >> well, just, supporters of mr. trump. so, the -- neil: financial supporters, donors? >> yes. yes. neil: how many, do you know? do you know how many will be there? >> it will be a couple of.

let's say a few dozen. not a lot but a good group. neil: a few dozen from this area, from the casino industry outside? >> all over the country flown in for the debate tonight. neil: okay. okay. >> so i know there has been a lot of reports that people are leaving or not supporting and that is, i don't think that is the accurate. i think tonight everybody is excited about a great debate. mr. trump is going to prosecute the case for, for, his candidacy and i think, that, we're going to have two weeks leaving into the election just like we had two weeks coming out of you know, out of labor day, heading into the first debate. we'll have a great two weeks. and november is going to be the surprise month. neil: all right, we'll see if november is surprise month.

you have only a week in november to make a surprise month. you have a lot of rich people in the room. is donald trump going to try to say, hey, i need you now? she has got a big financial advantage. she will have a blitzkrieg of ads. i need a blitzkrieg of ads. is that how the pitch will go? >> i don't think -- i think he will simply say, welcome to las vegas. thank you for coming out and supporting me. very excited and positive about tonight's debate. he is very prepared. certainly a lot of ammunition with wikileaks to discuss. and, i think that. really just a thank you and friends getting together. not really and ask. like i said, neil. everybody is very supportive. there may be one or two folks that have been fund razers that are backing off a little bit, because of various issues but i think overall, everybody is extremely excited about tonight.

looking forward to a great night for mr. trump. and i think, you know we're going to see what happens on november 8th. but, you know, she does win a lot in the super-pac money. there is a lot of super-pac money where she has an advantage. she definitely has an edge there. and, i think. neil: okay. >> instead of spending money on super-pacs, some donors may be focusing on down ballot races, but for the most part everybody is still supportive of mr. trump. neil: all right. john, thank you for taking time. we very much appreciate it. have fun at that lunch. >> i will. i will tell them you send your regards. neil: send us some food actually. we found out we don't have catering. we'll talk later about that. >> i thought gasparino would be with me. somehow he peeled off in the casino. i haven't found him yet. neil: typical. yeah. so typical of gasparino.

john, appreciate it. thank you for taking time. the latest from pool side from the money guys.you know, you alk about these groups that have been peeling off from donald trump because they're concerned, worried or anxious, that does not apply to small business groups. lion's share are overwhelmingly backing donald trump. they're not peeling away. why is that? after this.

>> i'm gerri willis with your fox business brief. oil is up 2% after hitting highest price per barrel since july 2015. nation's 65 million seniors won't get much of a raise this year. social security administration say it will rewarded paltry, .3 of a cost of living adjustment to checks received by retirees and disability programs. that amounts to five bucks a month for most seniors. barely enough to buy a starbucks frappuccino. small adjustments come at time seniors face higher health care costs. millions of seniors enrolled in medicare part-d subscription program will have increases of 9% on average. social security will be a big topic in tonight's presidential debate. now back to "cavuto."

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serious voter fraud in america i don't think there is a person in this country that wouldn't be really up in arms about it, including myself. neil: all right, steve wynn going on to say hopes that isn't the case. he doesn't think that is the case despite what donald trump is saying. read from real americans, it is hard to say. do most voters feel, do a lot of voters feel this is set up against donald trump? that the system is rigged? let's get a read right now from adam shapiro in miami. adam? reporter: hey, neil. you know it depends who you ask when you're down here in miami. one of the things they like to point out at least right now hillary clinton, take a look at latest "quinnepiac poll," she is leading donald trump in florida by about four points, 49% of those interviewed said they would favor her over mr. trump, 45%. but then there is that issue of the election being rigged. we asked several people, what do you think? we got a whole bunch of answers. take a listen.

do you think the election is rigged? >> no, i don't believe the election is rigged. i believe that we have a fair government system and i think it is ludicrous to think that the election would be rigged. >> nonsense. i mean i just think it is nonsense. i think it is a move of desperation a lot of times when someone speaks like that. >> it is not mechanical failure. it is favors, behind closed doors, talking out of both sides of the mouth. that is where it is rigged at. reporter: when do you think when he says the election is rigged? >> i don't know. i don't know. i guess you never know. hopefully not. reporter: neil, i want to introduce you to people real quick vacationing from north dakota. we were talking earlier, what do you think, when donald trump says the election is rigged, what do you think? >> being from north dakota we're a big trump state so i'm hoping every vote does count. this year with being such a controversial election, that a

lot of people are going to be going out to vote which is good and so if it does come out it is really rigged, you will turn away a lot of people from voting for future years. so hopefully the best candidate wins. and if you don't go out and vote, then it is your own problem for whoever does. reporter: jess, appreciate you talking about it. they're going to a cruise by the way, cozumel and talking to people on the beach. a lot of trump supporters don't like to say that on the phone so maybe there is surprise in store. neil: adam shapiro. interesting read. is the election rigged? in other words is that what the problem is? danny kocher, you know him the czar of counting cars. you hear this a lot, danny, that it is rigged against donald trump. i thought at first he was talking about the way media rigs its coverage.

i think that would be fairly fair argument to make but he is going on to say the system itself would be unfair to him. do you agree with that? >> i think that there is definitely a potential for it. i understand what he is saying as far as the press is concerned. i think there is a whole lot of special interest dollars being dumped into a large portion of the press to lean in the direction that is not his. but, as far as corruption, it seems to run so deep right now, although i hope and pay things like a rigged election is not the truth, frankly it wouldn't surprise me. neil: you know, danny, one thing that came up is worrisome poll numbers for trump backers who are peeling off or worried or getting frustrated of the not across the board. these numbers might be understating trump support, i know that drill you have been arguing that there is a group,

small business types, who stay loyal to donald trump but why? what is it they like about donald trump? what are you hearing? >> in my opinion it's a matter of fixing all the problems that we've had. we've been dealing with an administration that has not done its job for the past seven 1/2 plus years right now. and, in my opinion, as a businessman, i need somebody that is going to help fix that i have got several businesses based out of las vegas here. try to create jobs for real people that have real families and they're paying their real bills. and, as you work harder and as you try to become more and more successful, you seem to get more and more penalized, whether it is with taxes or with regulations. and in my opinion, i believe that a businessman can truly help other businessmen in that respect. and it's the small businesses that in my opinion, that help to stimulate and grow the economy. and, on top of that, there are

so many other issues that are important to my. i mean national security, for pete's sake. everything that is going on in the world right now, if we don't have national security, we have absolutely nothing. and in my opinion, what we've seen over the last seven 1/2 plus years, has certainly not been a positive view towards our national security. and i believe that a clinton administration is merely going to be an extension what we've been seeing for the last seven 1/2 plus years. i'm ready for someone that win help us out. neil: danny, thank you for taking the time, buddy. i appreciate it. >> love you, neil. you rock. neil: i never heard that but i like that. better to rock than not rock i think. we are here in las vegas, only a few feet away from what will be the third and final debate. look at the dow up 85 1/2 points. very early in earnings season. we're getting better than expected numbers. banks also of course doing better. certainly a lot better than 29

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♪ neil: we were just in middle of discussing economic policy here. so i wish you could be here during the break. you don't always get that opportunity. welcome back, everybody, i'm neil cavuto here. we are in vegas getting ready

for the big debate. i want to go to my buddy charlie gasparino. charlie i heard about this trump event. i guess he is meeting with fund-raisers. i don't know where but somewhere on these grounds. and i don't know if it is a pump for cash here but, thank you i'm told from john tatum, would appreciate your support on going but do you think they passed the tin cup around? are they getting that worried trump might not have enough money to finish this with the kind of blitz of ads he would need to close this deal? >> i think what john said is in diplomatic way before is, that people like sheldon adelson are stepping up to the trump campaign. they are giving money to down ballot races. but as we reported earlier, he is not stepping up. in not stepping up, guys like john tatum, bundle money and raise money for donald trump are making another last-ditch effort. it is late in the game. the problem donald has -- neil: what is stepping up? what is stepping up?

if he is not giving as much money. not as if he is not giving anything but not giving enough? >> here is the thing, neil, he promised $100 million and gave 10 to donald. that is not a lot of money. when you're being outspent by three times as clinton campaign with a very good ground operation. they have tons of money for battleground ads, for attack ads in battleground states, including in las vegas. i'm watching them at end of the day. that is problem at end of election. that is it how you win. adelson putting money in other things. unless something changes dramatically, based on my reporting he essentially checked out of the presidential race. he is looking for the down ballot races. we have good reporting here. he wants to be part of the effort to bring raiders to las vegas. i mean adelson is planning, he wants, from we understand, he wants to see more. wants to see full approval of

nfl, approving raiders who are now in oakland to come to vegas. he wants to design a stadium. that is what he is telling people, something along what is in dallas, the at&t stadium that jerry jones built, known affectionately out there as jerry world. john tatum can tell you about that because he is dallas guy. that is amazing place. that he wants amazing place in vegas. he is turning attention away from trump to the down ballot races. he has a florida funk media em-- far-flung media empire. wants to do the stadium thing. nfl needs to approve it. he needs to make sure the specs are right. we should point out about sands, his company, the stock is way down from its 2007 highs. neil, a lot of that was the financial crisis. it has bounced back. neil: that's right. >> his net worth from 60 billion to two. it is back up again. he has capital to do the stadium

deal. he has capital to give to donald but he hasn't. neil: charlie gasparino, thanks for latest on that. i bet they could get a stadium up here fast. there is a lot of money here. a lot of people hanging on to their waeconomy. more after this.

. neil: all right, now about seven hours away from the big debate. one that will close out the rough and nasty exchanges, at least to each other. doing it by way of advertising and the like. the so-called rubber match where the trend has been in the past, the candidate who loses the first debate goes onto win the next two debates. more often than not winning the general election, that would be an uphill climb for donald trump. we shall see. trish regan will take you in the next hour. trish: it's going to be a big hour and big night. we are live from las vegas where, as you said in just

seven hours, donald trump and hillary clinton will face off in their third and final debate. i'm trish regan, welcome everyone to "the intelligence report." before we get to all the politics, though, we got a read on the economy. let's go straight to the fed's report on the overall health of the u.s. economy quickly here with peter barnes. take it away. >> reporter: the latest beige book, trish, and it says the economy continued to expand at a modest or moderate pace in late august, early october in most fed districts. this is the report of economic conditions that the fed will use at its next policy meeting, the first week of november in just a couple of weeks from now, it says the labor market conditions remain tight with modest employment and wage growth, prices, inflation increased slightly on net, and finally the beige book mentions, quote, there were signs of stabilization in oil and natural gas sector. trish, back to you.