thanks for being with us. tomorrow night we are joined by the formerred a individualsor to prime minister david cameron. peter schweizer among our guests. good night from new york. kennedy: president-elect trump shows he wants to chop up obamacare and throw most of it out the window. liberals love president obama's executive orders. but now that trump may have that same power, they are freak out. should mark zuckerberg get to decide what you can and cannot read? grab your glasses. it's time to see the light. obamacare breathes new life into

president obama's sitting legacy. president-elect trump expressed his compassion for those with preexisting conditions. >> are you going to make sure people with preconditions are still covered? >> yes, because it happens to be one of the strongest he sets, also for the children living with their parents for an extended period. we'll try to keep that. >> this entitlement is so deeply linked with our economy it's impossible to pull out one of the gooey arms. mr. trump wants to keep the preexisting caveat, forcing insurance companies to provide service to the sickly but without forcing people to buy insurance they don't need. it's like forcing someone to sit

down and have a baby when all they want to do is fool around. obamacare got us pregnant and now we are found out we are not just a little bit pregnant. we thought we could be pregnantish and at the end of the day wear our skinny jeans. but now we are stuck with a baby and our new boyfriend just got elected president and he will be too busy and tired to give the baby a midnight bottle. he's got a crying, teething infant. there is no easy fix. some people say leave it to the free market. we wanted to do that on a vegas girls' weekend. just when you were ready to pull out of this horrible entitlement program, you sweet talk us.

well, now we have a baby and we can't gift away. lord knows we can't sell it, can we? and we can't pretend we never got pregnant in the first place. i guess we'll have to buy guaranteed renewable insurance contracts and hope our new baby daddy is more hand on than the deadbeat leaving the oval office. babies are one hell of a preexisting condition. president-elect trump plengd to repeal and replace obamacare. but that's easier said than done. what should we do? i think we should turn to his presidential director. can you possibly do that and

keep the individual mandate? and what does it do to the health insurance market. >> the whole point repealing obamacare is to make coverage more secure for people with expensive medical conditions. the problem is obamacare is not doing that. the provisions president-elect trump wants to keep supposedly ban discrimination against people with preexisting conditions don't end discrimination against people with preexisting conditions. instead they are causing a race to the bottom where coverage is available to continuously degrade year after year. there is a coalition of patient groups that says this ongoing discrimination completely undermines the promise of the aca. in spite of obamacare, and because of obamacare, that's why

we need to get rid of all of obamacare including the supposedly popular conditions supposedly banning discrimination against patients with pretesting conditions. kennedy: if you weed out the bad parts of the aca you don't like, you are left with the status quo. you could argue it was the impending failure of obamacare that got donald trump elected in the first place. let's say you do what you just suggested. let's say you scrap the whole thing. what do you do for the 20 million people who have insurance because of obamacare. and how can you create a system in a short amount of time that fixes the daily healthcare market? >> you stop the bleeding. obamacare and other government leaders are exacerbating this problem of preexisting conditions. you want to put in place reforms

that allow people to have secure access to care when they get sick. what was -- where that was happening was in the individual market that obamacare pretty much abolished. if you allow people to purchase insurance without tax penalties, tell them to buy insurance from an employer, to purchase insurance directly from an insurance company, that insurance is more secure than obamacare, than employer-sponsored insurance. it will do a better job of providing access to care for the sick. there are so many people who are victims of obamacare and other government failures that there will have to be some form of transitional assistance for people currently in the exchanges and won't be able to afford coverage in a market where obamacare has been repealed. it needs to be transitional and only transitional. kennedy: was the law designed so there wouldn't be a transition

so there was no way of take out major parts of the law and dismantling it so you had to keep the entire thing tore scrap it completely. was it designed that way? >> what he were designing is the three legged stool. between the community rating price controls, what we call the ban on discrimination and the individual mandate and the subjects does, you have the three legs of that three-legged stool. donald trump is saying he can knock out two of those legs. which is why you need to get rid of all of obamacare. for the vast majority of people in the exchanges, the premiums will fall. it will be more affordable and more secure. for the people who were the victims of obamacare, you need a high risk pool or giving people

more flexibility with medicaid funds. and that solves that transitional problem and we build a healthcare system that provides secure access. kennedy: we'll see who is going to take care of the baby. michael cannon, thank you so as much. american healthcare may be racing down the drain. but not my party panel. harris faulkner, and we have michael malice. and democratic strategist steven sigmund. it's so nice to have you here. are you going to admit it was obamacare that leveled the fatal blow to hillary clinton's presidential aspirations? >> it didn't help. politically getting rid of obamacare will help democrats in the long run it's been an enormous albatross around them. from a policy perspective.

i disagree the with the notion that throwing 20 million people off of healthcare. kennedy: i don't think he was saying that. he was talking about a transitional program. >> i think you are sort of one cancer diagnosis or traffic accident away from bankruptcy. >> but you bring up the idea of a traffic accident. on some level perhaps every insurance company is not morally obligated to cover every person who comes to them. if you get in feanlder bender and you have insurance, can you call geico? >> maybe you would have been able to under the hillary clinton administration. this was intentional. when f.d.r. had social security passed, he night wasn't something you could repeal. once you pull them out you are left with nothing and it becomes a calamity. so what trump and republicans would have to do is repeel it

and replace it in the exact same moment or you have a boulder of economic problems. this aspect of obamacare is extremely popular. just because something is popular, it's disastrous economically. kennedy: it creates a death spiral where healthcare premiums become cost prohibitive. >> i was taking notes as you were interviewing. as i haired, kennedy, you were wondering whether the system were designed to be tinkered with. i agree with you. that's where hillary clinton was trying to go. her husband said on the campaign trail it was the craziest thing and he had to walk it back. his wife was going to try to fix it the way we may see it fixed.

donald trump may be able to do a move. the irs is tasked with collecting the revenue stream. that's how it's being paid for. you can't rip off the band-aid. >> this is how you rip off the band-aid, having the supreme court do the dirty work for you. >> you have a republican congress who didn't repeal it 60 times for nothing. they don't care about the politics aspect of it. they will vote to repeal. kennedy: we'll see what happens. coming up, leftists are enraged donald trump will make former breitbart ceo steve bannon his breitbart ceo steve bannon his chief

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someone of president-elect's first appointment was naming steve bannon as his chief analyst. he helped trump stay on message during the campaign. by's accused of using breitbart to spread racist, nationalistic

propaganda. so malice, i will start with you. a lot of people on twitter confuse the alt-right and steve bannon is associated with the alt-right base the difference? >> they are next door neighbors. they are part of this new right. i have a lot of friends call me asking if we should be worried about the trump presidency. if bannon is there they should be very worried. he understands the left and he wants to destroy them. he doesn't want bipartisan discourse. he wants these people to be if not in jail, at least driven out of office. first thing he will be gunning for is the universities because that's where the poisoning starts. he's really shopping for blood. kennedy: do you think that's dangerous to have someone with access to the most powerful person in the government.

>> dangerous is best thing ever. these people are the devil. their joins to brainwash young college students to make them into the shock groups for the left's militia. kennedy: steven, you are shaking your head. >> my father was a college professor. >> do you need a safe space? >> i need somebody who is more honest. >> twhawts very honest. >> having them all -- >> it many the truth. >> give me a break. >> steve bannon when your chief clear leaders are the american nazi party and david duke you have a problem. in terms of who reacted positively to his appointment,

those are the people who reacted positively to his appointment and everybody else reacted negatively. i don't think it matters to donald trump supporters. it's been very clear the people who surround him. kennedy: is he dangerous? >> steve bannon? i have no idea. i know his website headlines are pretty gross, and he has no experience to be that close to the president of the united states. but again his supporters, donald trump supporters don't car all they want him to do is deliver on his prom is for jobs and change washington. if he doesn't deliver on bringing back manufacturing jobs that have been gone for 40 years he will have a problem. kennedy: you have got a counter balance with reince priebus.

>> there is no lo lost between paul ryan weren't new speaker of the house as of a few hours before the show tonight -- there is no lo lost between him and steve bannon. so that's our counter balance. i know you are going back emotionally about a lot of things that have been said by steve bannon in places he stepped in and out of and his track record as a conservative. but he's tightly yoked to the military and military families will tell you they longed for and enemy shell obama did some of this, they lodged for somebody who served as a naval officer to speak up big and bold. we have a shrinking military. it's one of the things donald trump ran on. this is a good fit for him in terms of steve bannon. he served as special assistant to the chief of naval operations in the pentagon. that's something about bannon

people don't know. he's not single faceted but he does have a colorful past. kennedy: we'll see what elements of your experience you bring to the white house. google and facebook are working to delete fake news sites. what does this mean for your free speech? first, europeans drawing up defense plans that don't include america. what could a trump administration mean for the

kennedy: donald trump won't be in office another two months, by the looks like he's already flipping the world order on its

head. yesterday he spoke with vladimir putin and they reportedly discussed bringing the two countries closer together diplomatically and militarily it also has leaders in europe on edge who have been worried about putin's aggression. now europe considering building their own military separate from nato. the host of kfi radio show in los angeles. brian also a combat veteran of iraq and bass ania. welcome back. >> thanks for having me, kennedy. kennedy: i'm glad you brought the pipe. what should the u.s. do? >> they should remind the europeans that trump in the first debate said he gets nato.

he will support nato. but they are still reacting to what he said in july when he said i don't know if we'll come to your defense. they are reacting like a mistress who overheard her sugar daddy talking to his old girlfriend. our politicians say why are we sending our boys oversea. the world without the united states involved in europe is a bad world. and the europeans now they know they are incapable of cutting off their addiction to generous social program and actually pay for what would be. >> hundred billion dollar defense. kennedy: that's not the worst thing for fuss they have that self-examination and figure out maybe they need to buy some new kevlar vests up pointy guns. >> they have woken up and they

had their come to pierre moment. they realize we can't afford to do with what the united states does with just one of its 13 battle carrier groups. the newest members of nato, polled and estonia. the french have no room to cater wall when they are spending 12%. and they have maintained these social program for the last 50 years. kennedy: how is this clinton-trump souffle -- the putin-trump souffle? >> i don't like that, but when i

hear the name john bolton being thrown around. that guy is a realist. he knows the cut of putin's jib. kennedy: i'm curious about ambassador bolton's name being floated because of the connection he has with steve bannon. they are close. do you think he has ruffled feathers over russia still keeps him in the running? >> i hope so. i think he's trump's kind of buy. if bannon says so, then he will be trump's guy. steve bannon also is a guy who knows what we are dealing with in the kremlin. if he has trump's ear than a lot of my concerns are assuaged. kennedy: thank you for being here as always.

liberals doubled down on executive orders under obama. kmele foster joins me with his

kennedy: president obama has used executive orders to use controversial decisions from targeting and killing people with drones to committing america to the iran nuclear deal and the paris climate accord without involving congress. now the shoe is on the other foot and the democrats are crying foul. it seems they forgot pendulum swings both ways. kmele foster is here, and he's one of the co-hosts of the fifth column podcast.

let's talk about this. the quon season tracing of presidential power should be unsettling for both sides. but it seems as though democrats and leftists have forgotten when your philosopher king is no longer in power, some of the power you have given him or her remains. >> yes, and in this case barack obama used to talk:these issues a lot. when he was the senator repairing to run for president, one of his minnesota scathing criticisms of the bush administration was their secrecy and use of power. he said that the bush administration was abusing its authority by going to war in all sorts of area and places without consulting congress. he promised he would change things when he got into the white house. in fact he did the exact opposite. he doubled down on what the administration was doing before

him and he went even further if all of those areas you talked about with respect to immigration reform, trade policy. some of those things we might have liked like immigration reform. having a broader more comprehensive immigration policy that gives people peace of mind who happen nobody this country is a good thing. but you have to go about it in the right way. kennedy: knowing what the rules are. i always thought it was foolish for the democrats to pass amacare versus immigration reform. because we are left in a polarizing situation where the incoming president be use those orders those supreme court has pushed back. here is someone running on extending and protecting civil liberties, but he expand the surveillance state and domestic mass spying.

that's something we get -- it was a complete diametric shift. now you have someone coming into office people worry has an her td has anauthoritarian streak. >> if we are holding out hope for anything, because donald trump is who he is, both the left and certain elements of the right aren't going to allow him to get away with some of the things president obama has. president trump, it would be unlikely he could have drone strikes in 7 different countries people don't know about and not have members of the media talk about it constantly. >> because he has enemies within his own party, maybe there is a fracture. it does have enemies on the left. do you think there is going to be more accountability because of that? >> the left seems to have rediscovered the things called executive powers.

they seem to be concerned about people who grab their phone and pen to take actions unilaterally despite the fact they are facing congressional opposition. i am glad they have don't. i wish they had don't sooner. some consistency would have put us in a better situation. kennedy: i hope a part of your legacy going forward is running on the libertarian ticket for president in 2020. i talked about it on the show and people have warmed to the idea. trash tag kmele. how can we explore this as a possibility? >> i don't know, i made no official decision about that. but if people are truly interested, that's flattering. kennedy: i'll speak for them. everyone is absolutely interested. let's continue the discussion. let's keep freedom alive and come back early and often. come back early and often. kmele foster, tras, #kmelefoste.

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kennedy: facebook and twitter catching flack from angry hillary supporters saying the social media giants pushed the news toward trump by allowing fake news in their feeds. who will be in charge of these decisions? will tech giants be the gatekeeper of free speech? are you surprised by the reaction of google and facebook saying they are going to shut down these ads that perhaps these fake news sites violated their sacred algorithms.

>> i think they should do it. not because i think they throughout election. i think it' a mistake to have the equality and social media feeds between news u.s.a., some kid making money out of macedonia and the "wall street journal." they are not the same thing. they do not go through fact check. and to have people have to view them as if they are equally real is problematic and you end up -- kennedy: aren't people responsible -- >> maybe you want to not call it a news feed. maybe you want to call it an information feed per wherever that information is coming from whether real or fake. i agree with kennedy in the fact that people have to grow up and take responsibility. it's part of the reason we still have jobs. people said news anchors are going by the wayside. not as long as vetting is part of the equation.

facebook's algorithm makes me nervous. they put that in charge to make sure their news feeds did not slant against conservatives. so this was just may of this year. now they are going to try to fix a problem that is algorithm based to tell us what is real. >> i think this is a slippery slope. the first step that i agree with is these people shouldn't be getting ad revenue if they are putting out fake content. facebook went through a purge and users were taken out without notice or reason. it will be some people who shunned be on facebook but also some gray areas. kennedy: like milo. i don't have a problem from isis

using twitter. law enforcement will tell you the best way to track toes people is to allow them access. >> not on was he band web was retroactively band. they took away his archives. that should be there for possible pair it. >> what kennedy is saying with regard to isis, they have so many black site capabilities, sometimes you need the archival information to track where they have gone. >> they shouldn't live side by side. >> you can delineate them differently. kennedy: that's up to the company. if you are getting your news from social media, maybe around dumb dumb. there is news that is sacred. >> everyone should subscribe to a newspaper.

kennedy: i get those inky fingers in the morning. the word with fastism came back into vogue -- the wor word fascm came back into vogue during the election. is there something tell being the constant search for the term fascisim in. >> hous mussolini, when you seea saying yes we can, that's the fascist will to power. if we all get together we can overcome any problem. in terms of american socialism it's have much in vogue. and in their defense. fascisim in and of itself is incoherent. kennedy: mussolini inspired

hitler. >> so did lots of other people. >> they are also searching for the meaning of deplorable. so if the basket of deplorables did play a role in the election it's interesting that people need to look it up. >> i think it's like after brexit when the biggest search was, what is the european union? kennedy: how long has it existed. what places in the e.u. kennedy: i'm being a total fascist because i have to shut down the segment. coming up, donald trump says he

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>> sunday donald trump told 0 minutes * he -- old "60 minutes he plans to target criminals from deportation, 2 to 3 million. and that's down from the 11 million he promised to deport on the campaign trail. should president-elect trump told back? let's ask jonathon hoenig.

how are you feeling about the outcome of the election? >> well, i'm horrified by this plan. i think all of donald trump's proposals, this notion of rounding up 3 million people, about 1% of the population, hunting them down and putting them on rail cars and deporting them from this country. forget the police expense. the cost to this economy will be tremendous. that's what has me so worried. immigrants produce and boost the quality and standard of living. if trump comes through on this promise it spells terrible things for this economy. kennedy: you say there are three straw 234e7b employed. that's immigrants steal jobs and drive down wages. you say that's false. another one that people say is

they are just taking welfare. they are only here for the entitlements. >> that's patently false. immigrants come here to pursue the american dream just like all of us did. they are among the most industrious. the problem with welfare is immigrants taking welfare, the problem is welfare. there are a lot of lazy americans taking welfare. it's another trueman against immigrants. these people work innin -- workn agriculture and the arts. we should do anything we can to keep them coming here rather than turn them away as president-elect trump has talked about. kennedy: come here and work hard. we need to curtail the entitlement state. if hillary clinton were president she would be disaster.

we learned she wants open immigration and she wants to expands the entitlement state and give free college to people who were born in this country to immigrants. and you cannot afford to do both it's better for the question as people are here working paying taxes, allowing you more economic freedom when you can hire people to do certain things in your life. >> the most prosperous period in this country's history came during a time of open immigration and no entitlement state, no minimum wage. that's a real aspirational perspective to get back to. the notion we are going to deport productive people to get some kinds of political scalp for the president-elect is horrifying. kennedy: he said illegal aliens, fell any, assaults, rape and murder. i'm one of those people walking

around, i don't want people here legally doing the same thing. so lock them up. >> i agree with that, but a lot of anti-immigrant people consider being undocumented to be a criminal offense. kennedy: . thank you for spending time. coming up. did you know a loophole in the constitution will give 3

kennedy: i say the truth is a bagel. the sesame seed covered gluten-free bailing. topic number one. bicyclists can go overboard in

their sport. but now a new bicyclist is up in the arms race. how about some more beans, mr. taggert. that is innovation. but can america do better? i believe we can. you are welcome. topic number two. i know you are a sucker for celebrity impressions. so suck on this. i give you a giant tortoise doing an impression of the third most talented wilson brother, owen.

all i can say is wow. >> wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow wow, wow, wow, wow. kennedy: such range. tortoise i mean. did you know that joint tortoises can live up to 175 years? that's almost as old as ruth bader ginsburg. tomorrow it will be an all turtle episode of the "topical storm." you are welcome in advance. read it, the open sewer of the internet. look at that. there he is just spinning a pillow. regular harlem globe trotter.

regular meadow lark lemon. god rest his soul. now watch this. he's spinning a laptop computer. i hope he's sitting on a bunch of foam in case he drops it. now the grand finale. you have to understand the big picture. spinning is a vital part of ninja training and you don't want to mess are ninjas. >> you want to see something? lou dobbs looks great in that. topic number 4. step aside. there is a new pair of star crossed lovers in town. a man from taiwan has married his pet cobra.

he believes it's his dead ex-girl friend. they share a beautiful life together. they play board games and strip poker. they change weird tell cal energy drinks and no marriage would be complete without a good workout in the gym. not since tom shillue fell in love with his toaster has there been such a relationship. they recently gave birth to their first child. i celebrate the fact that he is a cue. that's trump's first pick for the supreme court justice when ruth bader ginsburg reaches 200.

wearing costumes is fun and games until you get afraid your dad can't see through your brilliant disguise and may attack you. >> i got it now. >> weirdo, come on. he's human. the kid looks so serious. it's easy to confuse some humans for turtles. >> cow, wow, wow, wow. kennedy: i love that turtle so much. i want to move to taiwan and marry it. thank you for watching the show tonight. you can follow me on twitter and instagram @kennedynation. email me at kennedyfbn@foxbusiness.com. tomorrow tonight on the show it's judge napolitano.

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