thanks so much for watching "strange inheritance." and remember -- you can't take it with you. with neil cavuto live from washington. ♪ >> this is the fox business coverage of the inauguration of our 45th president. here is neil cavuto. neil: welcome, everybody. when he started for the presidency nobody gave him a chance. he took out the contenders, cream of the gop crop, took down the bush dynasty and took down the hillary clinton an clinton dynasty. donald trump coming up to capitol hill, little more than 40 men's away from becoming the 45th president of the united states.

that oath will be administered in 47 minutes. his vice-presidential choice, mike pence will technically be over him for a while, in terms of the status of the job, if you will. sworn in as vice president ten minutes ahead of the president-elect. so for a while maybe some bragging rights briefly, to have higher position before of course donald trump is sworn in. and as stuart was pointing out, looking at the who's-who crowd assembling there, hillary clinton in the role of the former first lady, coming with her husband bill clinton. all the former presidents are there going back to jimmy carter who was inaugurated 40 years ago this day. if you look at history of sitting there, who will be there, united even as protests are ensuing, not too many blocks from where i am right now. the fact of the matter is, this quadrennial event goes on, largely i would say without incident. there are protests and hard

feelings, that die very hard. they die down eventually. the present occupant of the white house for the next few minutes, barack obama has left the white house for the last time as president of the united states. with the man who will be succeeding him this very hour, donald trump. they met for about 40 minutes. these conversations and wondering what transpired in that room as michelle obama there with melania trump, those two apparently hit it off from reports we her, going over how you handle children in the white house, 10-year-old baron trump, and how that will be weighed and, shuttling between washington and new york. still so many details to be worked out. the obamas themselves will take off for palm springs, california after today's festivities, leaving in the same plane they know as air force one. this time not as president and first lady. they will not have that distinction, but they will take

a needed rest and enjoy some good golfing weather, near and dear to the president of the united states, often talking up the fact he would like michelle to pursue the sport. i don't know if she is that eager. one thing i know the president is. the obamas will not be setting any alarm clocks on tomorrow. the scene on the right, the washington mall, national mall. it is there we have connell mcshane as crowds get ready for the big moment. connell? reporter: neil, we've been watching them file throughout the day as you have been. some dramatic pictures on our television screen of the moment of current president and soon to be president at the capitol which is located behind me. distinctly different scene where i am halfway up the mall between the capitol building and the washington monument. instead of all the pomp and circumstance and pole tish shuns and what -- politicians, what have you filing into the capitol, here we have the people.

covering donald trump rallies during course of the campaign, similar scene here people filing in from all over the country. many small children we saw earlier. instead of suits and overcoats, we have jeans and heavy coats, many in cases the red hats, make america great again hats became so familiar throughout the campaign are very easy to spot here on the mall. now in terms of crowd control, we've seen estimates all over the place for how many people would actually show up today. we'll tell you from where we are, about halfway between the capitol and the washington monument there is still a lot of room to fill to get here. possibly even by here. make of that what you will or, but there is still symptom time. the official program doesn't begin until the bottom of the hour. as i look at my right, another security gate just opened up because a number of other people have just begun to file in. it is slowly but surely filling in. from, my perspective, it reminds me again of the campaign.

we went to so many rallies and saw some people that elected donald trump. many traveled across the country to be with him today. neil: all right, connell. stuart varney, if you're still there my friend, as you and ashley and elizabeth discussing this protocol and how sticklers for he detail we are about it, as families enter and assume their positions and then there is the announcement of the former presidents who assume their seats and of course earlier we had the supreme court justices, and there is some comfort in that protocol, isn't there? >> yes there is, neil. this is how it is supposed to be. yes it is choreographed but alo a friendly and amicable transfer of power. you have to organize it down to most minute detail so it all works like clockwork. nothing must interfere with the swearing-in of the new president and assembly of the country's

dignitaries, both political and military elite. nothing must interfere with the smooth transition from one presidency to another. that's what we've seen unfold today. neil, i'm particularly reminded of the scene on the steps of the white house as president -- president-elect donald trump and wife melania drove up in their limousine, greeted by president obama and first lady michelle, and there was very quickly, a very friendly conversation between the two first ladies, and that, i thought, symbolized the am amicability of this transition of power. we heard so much about boycotts and demonstrations and how this is very tense situation. on the steps of the white house morning it was not. it was gracious hand over the power from one administration to another. i thought that was a fine sight,

neil. neil: very comforting one. let's step back to explain the order of events. as stuart indicated it is clocked to the minute, to the second. pence children announced to the platform. then the trump children. then after this mrs. obama and dr. jill biden, they are announced. then mrs. trump and mrs. pence. president obama and vice president biden are announced. then the vice president-elect. then the president-elect. all are on the platform. it is at that point we have senator roy blount in his capacity as sort of overseeing the administrationtive process of all this, invocation. then the swearing-in a few lines later by just chris clarence roberts to -- justice clarence roberts to the vice president-elect. second to be vice president of the united states, mike pence. shortly there after a rendition of the "america the beautiful" and president himself,

11:47 a.m., we're told, they never. justice roberts gives the oath to donald trump who will then become effectively the 45th president of the united states. the trump children making their way on to the dais there. it is a very, very large family. john kennedy and his extended family was only one larger than this, i'm talking about the extended kennedy family. a president who at his inauguration had larger gathering with teddy roosevelt. he assumed office after the assassination of william mc mcmckinley. meantime at his official inauguration, his children, extended children, that was such an event. stuart, when you're looking at this, what goes through everyone's mind, they all got to be on great behavior, but i always feel, for baron hilton and here he is, 10 years old, i believe 10, that night when donald trump shocked the world,

won the presidential election, was 2:00, 3:00 in the morning, there was baron who was brought out to celebrate his father's election. the poor guy wanted to go to sleep, you know? >> i remember that very well indeed, neil. when you know you're that age, he is a young man, he is tall, and he is handsome, and he looks like his dad, you know you really can't go wrong, can you neil? neil: the world is your oyster. we should point out here, this is this conundrum that the trump family faces right now. melania trump, because conrad still in middle of his school year, i believe in the fourth or fifth grade. she did not want to disturb that. continuing to stay in new york at the trump tower, waiting until he finishes his school year to decide what to do after this. this is the unusual situation where the wife and son might be staying in new york much of the time, as dad begins his

presidency, which is novel of, not unprecedented but novel. >> neil, if i may say, a lot of things are novel. a lot of things have different. neil: you're right about that. you are right about that. >> everything will be truly, truly different for the next four years. neil, forgive me for breaking away for a second, i'm looking at crowd of people there, assembled for the inauguration. i got to say, that the mood right there is very positive and very patriotic, just the way it should be. the demonstrators somewhere no impact on the mood. that is what i'm seeing. neil: barack obama in 2009, we can quibble about this all the time, but i think to your point, this is what unites us. a lot of people say i won't go because i don't like this president or i don't like the president-elect.

the fact of the matter is this day is not so much about the man assuming the white house. the white house, the presidency, not the president. i think, having gone to many of these quadrennial events, that is what you celebrate here. whether you voted for the person who is about to be sworn in or not. stuart: this -- neil: get ready for the introduction of the family members here. i believe that is what's next. i want to focus on one quick second here. one of the things you are hearing very soon is the figures announced to the platform, as you're looking at trump children, young as, of course baron hilton, 10 years old. you will see others announced to platform as well in family order. rollout of principle players as well. mrs. obama and dr. jill biden, they will be formally announced. after that, mrs. trump an mrs. pence.

then after that the president and vice president-elect and then donald trump. the crowds here braving chilly wet weather. not as chilly and not as wet as some people feared certainly in the past. keep in mind this is a far cry from roughly seven or eight degrees it was on ronald reagan's second inauguration in 1985. ronald reagan holds the distinction of also having the warmest inauguration four years prior, when it was about 55 degrees. that was then. this is now. connell mcshane in middle of the mall where all of this is going down. i notice very quickly it is filling up. what are you seeing? reporter: yep, slowly but surely back where we are, we are seeing crowd in visible place where we can get sense coming through the security. quick on the weather, neil, comfortable to stand outside from where you are, it was yesterday as well, with the temperature getting upper 40s,

50 degrees. rain has been a concern. so far at 11:12 in the morning eastern time, it is knock on wood, not raining. that does not mean in a few minutes from now it won't be. forecast is calling for rain to begin right around now, within the next half hour or some mr. trump even joked about his hair. you probably saw that at the event last night, were it to rain what would happen to his hair as we know, he said at event in union station, he has his real hair. the rain would have that type of effect. we'll see it. that is one kind of concern for people coming in, how comfortable for this crowd and shot we're seeing there. west front of the capitol is just spectacular and dramatic. what we see every four years, we're some space removed from that, crowds moving in from both sides where i am to fill in. it will take some time, i don't know before the inauguration if we will be able to get all the way back here to where we are in this media village halfway between the monument and the capitol.

i don't think we i will. maybe, a little early for this, the crowd will be smalle some predicted of past inaugurations a little early for that. some entertainers coming in, pipe and drum bands warming up and one of the police departments filed in. look at that scene, former president and hillary clinton on west front ever capitol, neil. neil: it's a unique club. hillary clinton as capacity for former section of the first lady. that is section for reserved for former presidents. george, sr., and barbara in the hospital. i i am happy to report both are doing better. his doctor warned him given the weather and everything else he might end up six feet under, gallows bush humor there. but nevertheless, trying to honor the dignity of this day, and explain why he couldn't be present this day, but we're told

that the first president burke is doing very, very well. all right, now, we're seeing the arrival of michelle obama, again to this protocol, and jill biden. the two became very fast friend over course of this. the biden and obama families, very, very tight. the president bestowed on his vice president the presidential medal of freedom. highest honor. joe biden was taken aback by that. these are part of well-scripted moment of the day. let's listen in. >> are you okay? neil: be introduced and brought to their seats. again, every seat accounted for. many have been asking about what the 60 some odd seats for those congressmen who are not going,

did someone get those seats? we've been trying to pursue that we don't know. we know the seats are already there. whether they just took them away at the last second, or someone else is filling them in, but those seats are allocated for the 435 u.s. representatives, house representatives, and 100 u.s. senators. and as for the 50 governors. after that, you get to the supreme court, and some other key cabinet be a pointees and outgoing cabinet members, then you're out of seats. then you're up to friends who might have tickets to get you close but not necessarily close enough. part of this pagentry, it really can not be about just the politics here. rick perry, energy secretary, having that great, as he called it, "snl" moment in an exchange, i will leave the details out, just obviously the governor is enjoying the moment, even though he is taking over a department

he couldn't remember the, that he wanted to get rid of. bernie sanders is there, popular still. this is not about fairness in america but about what is doing right in america. very much bitterly opposed against donald trump but recognizes him as president of the united states and along with senator durbin. listen to the introductions. >> escorted by democratic staff by united states committee on rules and regulations, and mr. paul pelosi. [applause] [applause] >> thank you. thank you.

♪ neil: looking at michelle obama, you think how she had to be dragged into this political life she really didn't want. she often said of her husband, i could see him being president of the united states. the country needs him as president of the united states. it is just that it is rather discombobulating for my marriage and family life, thrust into the spotlight. i think most would agree she comported herself with great dignity, great charm as first lady of the united states. as is often the case for first ladies they outrate and outpoll

their husbands. she has 80% approval rating in polls. among the most admired women in the world. six out of the last eight years she has been the most admired woman in the world. no other first lady has attained that in their years in the white house. you could see the crowd filling out very, very quickly here. back at the white house, i believe we have our blake burman where, everything will return later today, after the swearing-in ceremony and a brief lunch and the parade. i think we're ready to go to him if he is there. reporter: i'm here. neil: you can hear me. when they go back there, will donald trump get a chance to go into the white house, or will he wait until after the events? reporter: well, i would put a caveat on that with donald trump as us being, you never know. as far as the plans go from what we've seen, what we believe to happen here is after all of the

festivities take place at the capitol, swearing-in we're about to see, luncheon which will take place here. they come here for the parade. that should last about an hour or some then, neil, it is our understanding that after that he will take the walk right across the north lawn here and through the front doors of the white house, and, that will be his first time we believe entering the white house as president of the united states. we've now seen him here twice. that being just after he won the election, when he first met with the president. earlier, this morning, when he met with president obama along with their wives and several members of congress, high-profile members for tea. so, we do believe, neil, that his first official visit to the white house as president will come after these festivities. one thing i should note, neil, when ever he does make it into the oval office we can tell you that the letter from president obama has been written to mr. trump. this keeps with time honored tradition of the previous

president writing a note, leaving it on the deck of oval office to his successor. what is in the letter? we don't know and might not find out for years to come but it is there, mr. trump will receive it when he enters the white house later today, neil. neil: all right. connell mcshane, we're watching melania trump arriving. only the second foreign-born first lady. abigail adams more than 240 years ago, the last, so there is that historical precedent here, that is not without notice. it is, it's a remarkable development when you think of the fact that how far, not only this country has come but what we now recognize, don't bat an eyelash over. reporter: you're right about that. as the vice president-elect and his wife are just set to come on to the platform there at the

capitol as well. mrs. trump is getting a lot of attention this morning herself for the choice of her outfit, light blue dress she has been wearing of course. that has been all over social media, as you would expect and everything else. there is pretty good shot of her being escorted down by members of the military and taking her place. that is interesting, throughout the campaign and covering donald trump since he announced that he would run for president, there has been a lot made about the role of mrs. trump and what her role might be were he to win. when they went over to trump international hotel in washington, d.c., she was brought up and asked to speak, almost reluctantly came to the stage and made those remark remarks neil, her husband said, come up. they love to hear her speak. she usually has to be prodded and asked, point you're making in a different way. to michelle obama being brought into a life in politics she

didn't ask for, right? neil: exactly. you're thrust into the spotlight. the last shy woman thrust into the spotlight didn't exactly welcome it. that was jacqueline kennedy. we're told by the way for those of you who are into this sort of stuff, melania trump is wearing a ralph lauren outfit. powder blue cover is mirroring that jackie kennedy wore in 1961 to her husband's inauguration. a lot of people are telling me you can tell a mile away it is ralph lauren, neil, didn't you know? no i did not. president and vice president no doubt talking about the ralph lauren outfit right now and wanting to confirm the fact it is indeed ralph lauren. i don't know whether they run that by the designer, oh, by the way i'm going to wear your clothes. there is much made of fashionistas they want nothing to do with donald trump or mrs. trump of the fact of the

matter is, long before some of them were giving their snit fit or whatever you want to call it, melania trump had impressive wardrobe of her own right. this outfit proves. people pay attention to that for some reason. our fashion plate, stuart varney is still with me right now. stuart, it is amazing, i guess we see it in britain and elsewhere, people pay attention to that sort of things, don't they? stuart: they do indeed. it actually set as tone. i might add, neil, my daughter works for ralph lauren and proudly told me this morning that, future first lady was indeed going to be wearing a stunning ralph lauren outfit. neil: all right. stuart: there you have it, neil. i have to the a connection to this. neil: that's interesting. so i guess they get the clearance, right? >> the vice president, jost --

joseph r. biden. charles e. schumer and house democratic leader nancy pelosi. [applause] neil: barack obama, eight years ago he electrified this town. he holds the distinction not only as the first african-american president, of course, but the one who garnered the largest crowd, 1.9 million, let's say 2 million who were here to witness that historic event and everything that has transpired since. and now here we are eight years later, and he is minutes away from being a former president. shortly after today's festivities and events, he is heading out to palm springs, california, to enjoy a life of golf and rest, and he promises not answer an alarm clock tomorrow morning. let's continue watching. ♪

♪ neil: barack obama, by the way, has -- depending on the poll, a 57%, 60% approval rating, one of the highest of an outgoing president. and he's been all over the map on these polls in these eight years. he joked about himself being no drama obama, but there was a great deal of drama under his eight years. but on this day, people more focused on the moment, more focused on the historical transition, peaceful transition of power. you might have seen a little earlier a hearty handshake to george bush. those two enjoyed a particularly productive relationship in their transition, and barack obama wanted to maintain that goodwill with donald trump.

and one of the things you see on this day is just that camaraderie that is as much respect for the institution as in addition else. and now the man minutes away from being sworn in the 45th president of the united states, donald trump, who began this journey 18 months ago to considerable controversy. people dismissing him. look at him now. took out the best of the best in the republican party, brought down the bush dynasty, moved on over against hillary clinton to bring down the clinton dynasty against all odds, against all controversy and now realizing a goal that it seemed for a while only he believed he could fulfill. today he has. donald trump with the very house leadership and senate leadership that pooh-poohed his chances and then poo pooh-poohed him. but, stuart varney, as you look at him and the momentous nature of this, it is staggering to

consider and appreciate what he accomplished, you know? stuart: you're right, neil. we have all come a very long way from those days 18 months ago, just 18 months ago when donald trump rode down the elevator in trump tower and announced that he was going to run for the presidency of the united states. that's only 18 months ago. he transformed politics, and now as he's about to take the oath of office, he has a very good shot at being a truly transformational president of the united states. he is going to restore the conservative balance on the supreme court. he has the most conservative cabinet in living memory, and he's going to change the role of government in our lives. neil: this is the announcement of vice president-elect mike pence who will be sworn in before donald trump.

that is historical tradition. a lot of people curious about that, but a lot of vice presidents have fun with this because for a brief ten minutes or so, they have a higher elected office or stature than the guys who picked them. you'll have a brief window there where he will be vice president, donald trump will still be president-elect, and he'll enjoy every minute of it. al gore used to famously joke when he was introducing bill clinton that the presidential seal was already set on the lectern getting ready for president clinton, but al gore would say it feels like it should be there for me. such is the woe of the number two. but mike pence can arguably be considered instrumental in making this day possible for both of these gentlemen. he shored up short as a crucial liaison for the republican establishment and those who were getting nervous in the party

about donald trump. that was then, this is now. he will be the vice president of the united states just in front of melania trump and the trump family. a key figure. and he will be increasingly so and a very activist vice president, donald trump promises, in this administration. something to consider when you remember all the controversies governor pence had to deal with in indiana and when his political career once with looked given up for dead. again, now on the verge of becoming the vice president. joe biden and barack obama chatting. the two had a very productive vice president/president relationship themselves. let's go back. >> inaugural ceremonies, the senate sergeant at arms, frank larkin, the house sergeant at arms, paul irving, the chairman, roy blunt, rules committee ranking member and senate democratic leader charles e. schumer, the speaker of the house of representatives, paul

d. ryan. house majority leader kevin mccarthy and house democratic leader nancy pelosi. [applause] neil: all part of the protocol of this day. next is the introduction of donald trump to be announced to the platform. it was at that moment when another president-elect has spoken of this moment when they see the vast crowds before them. john kennedy famously said i have to give a speech after this, don't i? he was up to that moment, most presidents are when that moment comes, buts it is that time -- but it is that time. they've seen and checked out this landscape, this seating position, the entire dais, the structure. but it is one thing to see it on a day when there are no crowds, quite another when it's like this. >> president-elect of the united states, donald john trump. [cheers and applause]

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[cheers and applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the chairman of the joint congressional committee for inaugural ceremonies, the honorable roy blunt. [cheers and applause] >> thank you all. if you haven't had a seat, you can sit down. mr. president, mr. vice president, mr. president-elect, mr. vice president-elect, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the inauguration of the 45th president of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] today the legislative, the executive, the judicial branches of our constitutional government come together for the 58th

inauguration of the president of the united states. millions of people all over the world will watch and will listen to this event. thirty-six years ago at his first inauguration, it was also the first inauguration on this side of the capitol, president ronald reagan said that what we do here is both common place and miraculous. commonplace every four years since 1789 when president george washington took this exact same oath. miraculous because we've done it every four years since 1789, and the example it sets for democracies everywhere. washington believed the inauguration of the second president would be more important than the inauguration of the first. many people had taken control of

the government up until then, but few people had ever turned that control willingly over to anyone else. and as important as the transfer of, the first transfer of power was, many historians believe that the next election was even more important when in 1801, one group of people -- arguably, for the first time ever in history -- willingly, if not enthusiastically, gave control of the government to people they believed had a dramatically different view of what the government would, should and could do. after that election that that actually discovered a flaw in the constitution itself -- which was remedied by the 12th amendment -- thomas jefferson at that inauguration, beyond the chaos of the election that had just passed, said we are all republicans, we are all federalists.

after four years of civil war, lincoln's second inaugural speech tried to find reason for the continued war when he pointed out that both sides prayed to the same god. he'd earlier written about those fervent prayers that one side must be and both sides may be wrong. but in 1865 he looked to the future, and the memorable moment in that speech was with malice toward none and charity toward all. in the middle of the depression, the country was told that the only thing we had to fear was fear itself. and president kennedy talked about the obligation in democracy to country. the great question that day was ask what you can do for your country. so we come to this place again, commonplace and miraculous, a national moment of celebration but not a sell brace of victory -- celebration of victory, a celebration of

democracy. and as we begin that celebration, i call on his eminence, timothy michael cardinal dolan, reverend dr. samuel rodriguez and pastor paula whitecane to provide readings and the invocation. [applause] the prayer of king solomon from the book of wisdom. let us pray. god of our ancestors and lord of mercy, you have made all things. and in your providence, have charged us to rule the creatures produced by you, to govern the world in holiness and righteousness and to render judgment with integrity of heart. give us wisdom, for we are your

servants, weak and short-lived, lacking in comprehension of judgment and of laws. indeed, though one might be perfect among mortals, if wisdom which comes from you be lacking, we count for nothing. now with you is wisdom who knows your will and was this when you made the world, who understands what is pleasing in your eyes, what is conformable with your commands. send her forth from your holy heavens. from your glorious throne, dispatch her that she may be with us and work with us, that we may grasp what is pleasing to you. for she knows and understands all things and will guide us pru dentally in our affairs -- prudently in our affairs and safeguard us by her glory.

amen. >> from the gospel of matthew, the fifth chapter. god blesses those who are poor and realize their need for him, for the kingdom of heaven is theirs. god blesses those who mourn, for they will be comforted. god blesses those who are humble, for they will inherit the earth. god blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice, for they will be satisfied. god blesses those who are merciful, for they will be shown mercy. he blesses those who are pure in heart, for they will be called children of god. god blesses those who are persecuted for doing right, for the kingdom of heaven is theirs. and god blesses you when people mock you and persecute you and lie about you and say all sorts of evil things against you because you are my followers.

for you are -- you are the light on the world like a city on a hilltop that cannot be hidden. no one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. instead, a lamp is placed on its stand where it gives light to everyone in the house. in the same way, let your good deeds shine out for all to see, that everyone will praise your heavenly father respectfully. in jesus' name. [applause] >> we come to you, heavenly father, in the name of jesus with grateful hearts, thank you for this great country that you have decreed to your people. we acknowledge we are a blessed nation with a rich history of faith and fortitude, with a future that is filled with promise and purpose. we recognize that every good and every perfect gift comes from

you, and the united states of america is your with -- your gift for which we probe claim our gratitude. as a nation, we now pray for our president, donald john trump; vice president michael richard pence and their families. we ask that you would bestow upon our president the wisdom necessary to lead this great nation, the grace to unify us and the strength to stand for what is honorable and right in your sight. in proverbs 21:1, you instruct us that our leader's heart is in your hands. gracious god, reveal unto our president the ability to know the will, your will, the confidence to lead us in justice and righteousness and the compassion to yield to our better angels. while we know there are many challenges before us, in every

generation you have provided the strength and power to become that blessed nation. guide us in discernment, lord, and give us that strength to persevere and thrive. now bind and heal our wounds and division cans and join our nation -- divisions and join our nation to your purpose. thy kingdom come, thy will be done the. the psalmist declared, let your favor be upon this one nation under god. let these united states of america be that beacon of hope to all people and nations under your dominion, a true hope for humankind. glory to the father, the son and the holy spirit, we pray this in the name of jesus christ, amen. [cheers and applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the missouri state university corral.

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>> well, the missouri state university chorale practices about two blocks from my home in missouri, so it was easy to find them, and we're pleased they're here. [applause] it's also a great opportunity for me to introduce my colleague, the senator from new york, chuck schumer. [applause] >> my fellow americans, we live in a challenging and tumultuous time, a quickly-evolving, ever more interconnected world, a rapidly changing economy that benefits too few while leaving too many behind; a fractured media; a politics frequently

consumed by rancor. we face threats, foreign and domestic. in such times faith in our government, our institutions and even our country can erode. despite these challenges, i stand here today confident in this great country for one reason -- you, the american people. [applause] we americans have always been a forward-looking, problem-solving, optimistic, patriotic and decent people. whatever our race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, whether we are immigrant or native born, whether wily with disability -- we live with disabilities or do not, in wealth or in poverty, we are all exceptional in our

commonly-held, yet fierce devotion to our country and in your willingness to sacrifice -- in our willingness to sacrifice our time, energy and even our lives to making it a more perfect union. today we celebrate one of them them -- democracy's core attributes, the peaceful transfer of power. and every day we stand up for core democratic principles enshrined in the constitution; the rule of law, equal protection for all under law, the freedom of speech, press, religion. the things that make america america. and we can gain strength from reading our history and listening to the voices of average americans. they always save us in times of strife. one such american was major sullivan blue.

on july 14, 1861, when the north and south were lining up for their first battle, a time when our country was bitterly divided and faith in the future of our country was at a nader, major blue of the second rhode island volunteers penned a letter to his wife, sarah. it is one of the greatest letters in american history. it shows the strength and courage of the average american. allow me to read some ofrds whie ages. my very dear sarah, he wrote, the indications are very strong that we shall move in a few days, perhaps tomorrow. if it is necessary that i should fallen the battlefield for my country, i am ready. i have no misgivings about or lack of confidence in the cause in which i am engaged, and my courage does not halt or falter.

i know how strongly american civilization now leans upon the triumph of the government and how great a debt we owe to those who went before us through the blood and suffering of the revolution. and i am willing, perfectly willing, to lay down i all my joy -- to lay down all my joys in this life to help maintain this government and to pay that debt. sarah, my love for you is depthless, it seems to bind me to you with the mighty cables that nothing but omnipotence can break. and yet my love of country comes over me like a strong wind and bears me irresistibly on with all these chains to the battlefield. sullivan blue gave his life on the battlefield a week later at the first battle of bull run.

it is because sullivan blue and countless others believed in something bigger than themselves and were willing to sacrifice for it that we stand today in the full blessings of liberty, in the the greatest country on earth. and that spirit lives on in each of us, americans whose families have been here for generations and those who have just arrived. and i know our best days are yet to come. i urge all americans to read blue's full letter. [cheers and applause] his words give me solace, strength. i hope they will give you the same. now, please stand while the associate justice of the supreme court, clarence thomas, administers the oath of office to the vice president of the united states. [cheers and applause]

>> mr. vice president-elect, would you raise your right hand and repeat after me. i, michael richard pence, do solemnly swear -- >> i, michael richard pence, do solemnly swear -- >> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. >> that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. >> that i take this obligation

freely -- >> that i take this obligation freely -- >> without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. >> without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. >> and that i will well and faithfully discharge -- >> and that i will well and faithfully discharge -- >> the duties of the office on which i'm about to enter. >> the duties of the office on which i am about to enter. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause]

♪ ♪ [background sounds] [cheers and applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the mormon tabernacle choir, accompanied by the president's own united states marine band. ♪ ♪ oh beautiful for spacious

skies, for amber waves of grain -- ♪ for purple mountains majesty above the fruited plain -- ♪ america, america, god shed his grace on thee. ♪ and crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea. ♪ oh beautiful for pilgrims --

♪ america, america, god mend thine every flaw. ♪ confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law! ♪ o beautiful for heroes proved in liberating strife. ♪ who more than self, their country loved and mercy more than life! ♪ america, america, may god thy gold refine. ♪ til all success be nobleness and every gain divine! ♪ o beautiful for patriot dream

that sees beyond the years -- ♪ thine alabaster cities gleam, undimmed by human tears! ♪ america, america, god shed his grace on thee. ♪ and crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea. ♪ and crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea. ♪ from sea to shining sea

[cheers and applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, it's an honor to introduce the chief justice of the united states, john g. roberts jr., who'll administer the presidential oath of office. everyone please stand. [cheers and applause] >> please raise your right hand and repeat after me. i, donald john trump, do solemnly swear -- >> i, donald john trump, do solemnly swear -- >> that i will faithfully

execute -- >> that i will faithfully execute -- >> the office of president of the united states. >> the office of president of the united states. >> and will, to the best of my ability -- >> and will are, to the best of my ability -- >> preserve, protect and defend -- >> preserve, protect and defend -- >> the constitution of the united states. >> the constitution of the united states. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪

[applause] ♪ ♪ [applause] >> what a great honor to be able to introduce for the first time ever anywhere the 45th president of the united states of america, donald j. trump. [cheers and applause]

>> chief justice roberts, president carter, president clinton, president bush, president obama, fellow americans and people of the world, thank you. [cheers and applause] we, the citizens of america, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and restore its promise for all of our people. together, we will determine the course of america and the world for many, many years to come. we will face challenges, we will

confront hardships, but we will get the job done. every four years we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to president obama and first lady michelle obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. they have been magnificent. thank you. [applause] today's ceremony, however, has very special meaning because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another or from one party to another, but we are transferring power from washington, d.c. and giving it back to you, the people. [cheers and applause]

for too long, a small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. politicians prospered, but the jobs left, and the factories closed. the establishment protected itself. but not the citizens of our country. their victories have not been your victories. their triumphs have not been your triumphs. and while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

[cheers and applause] that all changes starting right here and right now because this moment is your moment, it belongs to you. [cheers and applause] it belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across america. this is your day, this is your celebration, and this -- the united states of america -- is your country. [cheers and applause] what truly matters is not which party controls are government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. [applause] january 20th, 2017, will be

rememberedded as the day -- remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. [cheers and applause] the forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. [cheers and applause] everyone is listening to you now. you came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement the likes of which the world has never seen before. [cheers and applause] at the center of this movement is a crucial conviction that a nation exists to serve its citizens. americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families and good jobs for themselves.

these are just and reasonable demands of righteous people and a righteous public. but for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists. mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation, an education system flush with cash but which leaves our young and beautiful students deproved of all knowledge -- deprived of all knowledge. and the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now.

[cheers and applause] we are one nation, and their pain is our pain; their dreams are our dreams and their success will be our success. we share one heart, one home and one glorious destiny. the oath of office i take today is an oath of allegiance to all americans. [applause] for many decades we've enrichede of american industry, subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military. we've defended other nations'

borders while refusing to defend our own. [cheers and applause] and spent trillions and trillions of dollars overseas while america's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay. we've made other countries rich while the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has dissipated over the horizon. one by one the factories shuttered and left our shores with not even a thought about the millions and millions of american workers that were left behind. the wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed all across the world.

but that is the past, and now we are looking only to the future. [applause] we assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital and in every hall of power. from this day forward, a new vision will govern our land. from this day forward, it's going to be only america first. america first. [cheers and applause] every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs will be made to benefit american workers and

american families. we must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies and destroying our jobs. [cheers and applause] protection will lead to great prosperity and strength. i will fight for you with every breath in my body, and i will never, ever let you down. [cheers and applause] america will start winning again, winning like never before. [cheers and applause] we will bring back our jobs, we will bring back our borders, we will bring back our wealth, and we will bring back our dreams.

[cheers and applause] we will build new roads and highways and bridges and airports and tunnels and railways all across our wonderful nation. we will get our people off of welfare and back to work, rebuilding our country with american hands and american labor. [applause] we will follow two simple rules: buy american and hire american. [cheers and applause] we will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world, but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first. we do not seek to impose our way

of life on anyone; but, rather, to let it shine as an example. we will shine for everyone to follow. [applause] we will reinforce old alliances and form new ones and unite the civilized world against radical islamic terrorism which we will eradicate completely from the face of the earth. [cheers and applause] at the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the united states of america, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other. when you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

[applause] the bible tells us how good and pleasant it is when god's people live together in unity. we must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly but always pursue solidarity. when america is united, america is totally unstoppable. [applause] there should be no fear. we are protected, and we will always be protected. we will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement. [applause] and most importantly, we will be protected by god. [cheers and applause]

finally, we must think big and dream even bigger. in america we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving. we will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action constantly complaining but never doing anything about it. [cheers and applause] the time for empty talk is over. now a arrives the hour -- now arrives the hour of action. [applause] do not allow anyone to tell you that it cannot be done. no challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of america. we will not fail. our country will thrive and

prosper again. we stand at the birth of a new millenium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the earth from the miseries of disease and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow. a new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights and heal our divisions. it's time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget, that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots. [cheers and applause] we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and is we all salute the same great american flag. [applause]

and whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of detroit or the wind-swept plains of nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty creator. [cheers and applause] so to all americans in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, from ocean to ocean, hear these words: you will never be ignored again. [cheers and applause] your voice, your hopes and your dreams will define our american destiny. and your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us

along the way. together we will make america strong again, we will make america wealthy again, we will america proud again, we will make america safe again and, yes, together, we will make america great again. thank you, god bless you and god bless america. [cheers and applause] thank you. god bless america. [cheers and applause] neil: donald trump saying, essentially, a new vision will govern our land. maybe scant on details, big on goals, to make america great

again, to put america first, to think of the big things that we can do and the bigger things that are attainable as crowds react to the 45th president of the united states. true to form, keeping to a script that was unconventional but very hopeful. andy card joins us right now, chief of staff under president bush. one second here. >> the reverend franklin graham and bishop wayne t. jackson to provide readings and the benediction. >> yes. -- eternal god, bless president donald j. trump and america, our great nation. guide us to remember the words

of the psalmist who may dwell on your holy mountain, one who does what is right and speaks the truth, who knows that when you eat the labor of your hands, you are praiseworthy, that he who sows this tears shall reap in joy because the freedoms we enjoy are not granted in perpetuity, but must be reclaimed by each generation. as our ancestors have planted for us, so we must plant for others. while it is not for us to the complete the task, neither are we free to desist from them. dispense justice for the needy and the orphaned, for they have no one but their fellow

citizens. and because a nation's wealth is measured by her values and not by her vaults. bless all of our allies around the world who share our beliefs. by the rivers of babylon, we wept as we remembered zion. in my right hand forget it still. the doer of all these shall never falter. may the days come soon when justice will dwell in the wilderness and righteousness will abide in the fertile fields. and the work of righteousness will be peace, quietness and confidence forever, amen.

>> mr. president, in the bible rain is a sign of god's blessing. and it standarded to rain, mr. president -- started to rain, mr. president, when you came to the platform. [applause] and it's my prayer that god will bless you, your family, your administration, and may he bless america. the passage of scripture comes from first timothy chapter two. i urge then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people; for kings, for all those in authority that we may live peacefully quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. this is good. and it pleases god, our savior,

who wants all people to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. for there is one god and one mediator between god and mankind, the man, christ jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. now to the king eternal, immortal, invisible, the only god, be honor and glory forever and ever in jesus' name, amen. [applause] >> we thank you, father, for letting us share this great moment together. let us not take for granted the air we breathe or the life you've given us. we were all created by you with one blood, all nations to dwell upon this land together. we are not enemies, we're

brothers and sisters. we're not adversaries, but we're allies. we are not foes, but we're friends. let us be healed by the power of your love and united by the bond of your spirit. today we pray for our 45th president, the vice president and their families and give them the wisdom to guide this great nation, the strength to protect it and the hands to heal it. we bless president donald j. trump. we ask that you give him the wisdom of solomon, the vision of joseph and the meekness of christ. solomon who kept peace among many nations; joseph who dreamt better for the people and christ who accepted us all. o lord, mend our hearts and stitch together the fabric of this great country in the spirit of the legendary gospel songwriter mahalia jackson, oh, deep in my heart i do believe the lord will see us through, i do believe. we are on our way to victory, i do believe.

we will walk hand in hand, i do believe. we shall live in peace, i do believe. oh, deep in my heart i do believe, america we shall overcome. and may the lord bless and keep america and make his face shine upon us and be gracious unto us and give us peace in the mighty name of jesus, amen. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome jackie ivanko accompanied by the president's own united states marine band. please stand for the singing of the national anthem. ♪ ♪ oh, say can you see, by the

dawn's early light -- ♪ what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight -- ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched, where so gallantly streaming. ♪ and the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air --

♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. ♪ oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave -- ♪ for the land of the free and the home of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, please remain standing while the president and official party depart the platform. you'll be released by sections

shortly. ♪ ♪ neil: all right. now they're going to formally depart from the platform. this is when the new president and vice president formally say good-bye and show off the former president and vice president. donald trump will escort the obamas to a helicopter, marine one, waiting outside the capitol. you see bob dole there, of course, the former senate republican leader, former senate majority leader. he turned around and an early critic of donald trump's, endorsed donald trump. barack obama also paying a visit to mr. dole and his wife, elizabeth, herself a former presidential candidate.

the obamas, we're told, are headed off to palm springs, california, but in a rite that is due presidents after leaving office, he'll get one last aerial tour of the capital and then on to a much-needed vacation. presidents like to talk about the day after they leave not answering an alarm clock. this president no different. he will leave on the jet known as air force one, but since it will not house an active president of the united states, it will just be a plane back for he will return by other means on a government jet but not the distinction of air force one. hillary clinton visiting as wife of bill clinton. not as she had hoped as the 45th president of the united states. she kept her composure. and she kept her calm. and with great dignity, and

message to those that might have skipped out of today's events, we must honor donald trump as the duly elected president of the united states. andy card, we always talk about these things and their pomp and ceremony but there is something comforting? it, isn't there? >> it is critically important for the rest of the world to see how our great democracy can transfer power without using weapons. i think this is remarkable ceremony. i was so pleased at former presidents could be there and our hearts and prayers with president george h.w. bush. it was a wonderful display what it means to have a peaceful transfer of power, even though there may be significant policy differences and philosophical differences and partisanship. today is celebration of our great democracy, how we as people pick a leader and respected by those who serve in government no matter what

particular ideas they have on things that should or should not happen. a great day for the world to witness and for america to experience. neil: you know it, you think about it too, and i did, there are snapshots in time. one snap the image is shot, it's done, we have no idea what will happen next. i was thinking when your boss, president bush was sworn in, now leaving with hillary clinton there, the clintons and the bushes have maintained very tight relations, very close families. that, it was only about nine months after then president bush's remarks talking about america, and similar themes to it america first, and that we were not going to be into nation-building. we had 9/11. obviously everything that ensued after that. you know, i was thinking of you as well, when the new president said this day, talking to the crowds, belongs to you, and will

be remembered the day people became rulers of this nation, forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer, how do you think that will sit well, for lack of a better term elites in that audience. >> well, donald trump got elected by people who said they want change. the election may have not produced a mandate for donald trump but it did produce a mandate for policies that would be different than the past. it was tremendous russ republican victory, and republicans elected over 1000 new state legislators and control the governorships in most states, like a phenomenal victory for the republican party. it was the worst defeat for the democratic party since the 1920s. this was a dramatic election. but donald trump ends up personifying the answer to the frustration that so many people in america had. he has come to washington, d.c. to present a change and he will

present a big change. neil: he didn't really specify the change nor are inaugural addresses meant to do that. they talk in broad platitudes and goals but i did notice that surrounded by the various establishment he railed against, arguably, andrew, in both parties, we will no longer accept politicians all talk and no action, constantly complaining and never doing anything b the time for empty talk is over. now arises the hour of action. we know he played an instrumental role as president-elect on the priorities for the new republican congress, telling them what to push and what not to, even on the repeal of the health care you law, that they better have an alternative fast. how do you think that is going to go, let's say within the so-called elites or power brokers of his own party? >> i think the president will have a tough time and the power brokers will have a tough time. having said that, i do believe

president trump has issued a challenge to those people who serve in government that will have to pay attention to his leadership, hopefully follow it, but at least, he is inviting them to be part of the governing solution to the problems that america has to solve. i think that is optimistic view. i'm not sure it is resonating with people in congress stuck in yesterday. donald trump said yesterday didn't work and we're not going to repeat it. he put the challenge out there. i do think it is interesting that he has, his inaugural address started off kind of dire, didn't paint a pretty picture of america but unfortunately he was painting a picture that many americans know is real. he was saying there is a better way. we've got to do it. i would like everyone in washington, d.c., to a partner that change. the gauntlet is out there, he laid it down. join me in the journey and we'll make things better. neil: this is part of that

journey. one of the historical protocols to which we attach great comfort and for good reason. the outgoing democratic president and incoming republican one. the new, always sends off the old, wishes him well. these two let's say, that would be putting it mildly, did not see eye-to-eye in number of issues. obama obama was very concerned about his legacy. it is a legacy that could be dismantled within the next few hours. talk that donald trump could issue a number of executive orders to undo some regulations that the president obama had put in place, some as recently as two weeks ago. that is the power of the presidency for you. it allows you to undo orders you found offensive from your predecessor. no doubt, whoever donald trump's successor may be, democrat, the same thing would happen. but i'm also wondering, as barack obama is about ready to

take off and leave washington, how he will be as, now an ex-president, andy, wondering what his role will be in the dismantling of that legacy? i'm sure he won't quietly let it happen. he spoken about things near and dear to him, not allowing it to happen. versus your old boss, how do you think he will be in that role? >> i don't think we know. i'm disappointed they're going to stay in washington, d.c., but i understand why they are. they want their daughter to finish high school that she is at. neil: right. >> i appreciate that and understand it. but i think its awkward to have a former president just blocks away from the white house and literally, a house or two away from where their daughter and son-in-law will be living. , their son and daughter-in-law will be living. i think that is a little weird. neil: right. >> but i do hope former president barack obama will be reflective and right.

he has a lot to write about he will write his biography what he did as president. it should be a great story to tell because he is a remarkable person who really changed america by being the first african-american to be elevated to the position of president of the united states. so it is an important story to write. i hope he does more writing than opining what donald trump should be doing. i hope that president obama gives donald trump the opportunity to put his stamp on what he thinks america should be. and, he doesn't have to like it. but i don't think that he should be out there leading the charge against a president-elect donald trump. he should be reflective and relatively disengaged with the political climate in washington, d.c. that's what i'm hoping for. neil: as are owl of us, because you always like to see things

amicably remain so. of course history teaches us otherwise. barack obama will leave on second activity one on en route to joint base andrews. he will tell staff members, final good-bye to them and all their help in the last eight years. no time given how long he will be in palm springs, california. bidens are leaving by motorcade presumably back to delaware although i have not heard that confirmed but donald trump has had very good personal relations, certainly with the obamas. the heat of the campaign not withstanding as you hear the -- see the pences say good-bye to the bidens. one thing i was struck by, connell mack shin, if you're -- mcshane, you're joining me out on the maul, the procedure as

smooth as it is and there were dust-ups and violence in d.c. proper today and maybe rumblings by you all i know, not as much as some feared, there will be a number of rallies and a big march tomorrow. for today, how was it by where you were? reporter: well, as i can tell you the crowd streams out to both sides to the left and to the right, one thing about the crowd, may have been lower in number than some had projected, weather forecast may have had something to do that, almost on cue as donald trump sworn in as president, delivered his inaugural address, it started raining. the rain didn't last that long. everybody heard so long coming in quite possibly some stayed away, you can appreciate that from where we are in the middle of the mall, there was a lot of open space between us and capitol steps where the swearing-in took place. that being said, neil, we said about this before, they were

here to see someone they had come so far with and overcame terrific odds to become president. for all the talk going, would it be like john kennedy or like ronald reagan, it was vintage donald trump, many themes put forth in the campaign were repeated here, with lines like you will never be ignored again, your hopes and dreams will define our destiny. speaking over and over about america first. with the line he ended so many campaign rallies he ended with, we'll make america great again. as we watch the limousine pull away, we were told this would be a short speech by relative standards, 16 minutes and 4 seconds. by no means, president bush 43, president carter, president kennedy, spoke over 14 minutes. both president eisenhower and president clinton just shy of 14. shortest on record, 1945, when president roosevelt spoke for under five 1/2 minutes. it was short and themes were

ones we heard some times before. it was, very much the donald trump that we'd seen during the campaign. so, the rain has all but stopped now. maybe just a very, very slight drizzle on the crowd on the mall, again both left and right heading out maybe some trying to look at parade route as we await that on the way back to the white house. neil: all right. the obamas making their final aerial swirl around the capitol. one last chance to say say good-bye and give them a chance the city they had been the principle players last eight years. historic by any stretch of the imagination. donald trump thanking barack obama for his role and helpful role of that in the transition. a lot of this kind of started back with jimmy carter who thanked gerald ford for all he had done to heal our land. and heal our country. other presidents similarly commended their predecessors. there has always been tension.

franklin roosevelt of course did not thank his predecessor herbert hoover. those two were barely civil or talking to one another in the transfer of power back in 1933. barack obama, waving good-bye to the washington that he took by storm as a young man, with virtually no deep political background. ran what some thought would be a fruitless race against an entrenched clinton juggernaut. she was heavily favored to win. bookies at one team put her odds getting elected president at little more than 1 1/2 to one. barack obama beating her at 300 to one. yet he did. and he got reelected. that is something that will go down in history as one of the more ununusual, unprecedented and stunning developments in history. ample testament to his ample political skills. when i remember that, and i

remember what this president just said in his inaugural address a few minutes ago, andy, i'm reminded of that that much of that is about to be undone by this guy. how do you think that is oiling to got? >> every president who comes into office during their transition, issued executive orders, many undo other executive orders. this is not unusual. the volume may be unusual. that is because president obama obama issued more executive orders than any other president in history i believe. so is there a lot to review. i'm not a big fan of executive orders. i do believe in a strong article ii, strong president of the united states but i want article i to do its jobe, i want laws instead of executive orders. the president will be number one asked to do something by fiat, by executive order, they had a right to do so in certain

circumstances. they should exercise that authority but be restrained how they do it. it is right for president trump, to have reviewed all the executive orders, thinks those not appropriate issue an executive order to change or eliminate them. president george w. bush did the same thing. i certainty a memo out, one of the first things i did as chief of staff. put all executive orders issued by president clinton that hadn't yet be published in the register. so they hadn't taken effect. , i put those on hold. that is pretty normal experience to go through coming in as a brand new team. neil: but, andy, do you know automatically or statement, we focus on first one one days of a new administration, i like to think in our attention deficit disorder world we live in, maybe first 100 minutes, you knew either by executive or by executive fiat you were going to do things to catch people's attention in those first 7200 hours, whatever you want to call

them? >> no, i don't think i had that insight. but, but, look it, the plan for the first 100 days plan but they should not be so dedicated to it that they fail to see what is happening in the rest of the world. so you need peripheral vision you march down the path of tunnel vision. that is critically important. george w. bush his priority in office, leaving no child behind in education and restoring our economic health. he was focused more on domestic policy than foreign policy. then september 11th 2001, happened. it changed the nature of his presidency. he lived up to his responsibility. he kept his oath which is the toughest thing to do and he did his job. there will be a lot of things that happen first 100 days were not part of the plan. i remember with george w. bush, we had a submarine come underneath a japanese fishing

boat. first 20 days. milosevic getting captured in europe. chinese hit one of ourments in the sky and lance ad huanan island. we had floods and hurricanes not part of the plan but you have to deal with them. in addition to meeting with president of mexico and saddam hussein violates the no-fly zone and our team has to respond. all those things happen outside of the 100 day plan. neil: absolutely. >> there are lots of things reince priebus has to pay attention to as he helps the president do his job. neil: the way events changes things for you. we're watching michelle and barack obama get a final sort of swing over the capitol, that, they kind of ruled for the last eight years. he is a young man leaving office. all of 55 years old. the man who just replaced him is

70 years old. and, there are many here, just as we hear the helicopter move overhead he will get one last view of his old home. >> this opportunity for barack obama to say good-bye is remarkable too. and that is part of the tradition. and it's a great celebration, if you will of the experience that he had. and he will greet a lot of people that helped him in office when he gets to joint base andrews. it will be a wonderful sendoff, and we wish him well and know he wishes president trump well, i really do believe that. neil: we talk again, andy, how young he is, leaving office at 55. he has got a full life ahead of him. takes very good care of them. he is in excellent health. and other presidents have gone on to other things. you know he talked about causes

he wants to pursue, not necessarily elected office. other presidents leaving office. adams comes to mind, did just that, serving in had his case coming back to the house of representatives, for 20 years. we think of president taft who went on to become a supreme court justice later on, swearing in a successor. so there is some historical precedent to presidents that leave office at relatively young age surprising you. can you envision anything like that for this one? >> i don't expect him to be like john quincy adams and go back to congress. you can see him number one, being interested in something else. others suggest it should be. i hope it doesn't happen right away. i do believe, in a funny way, presidents since we changed our constitution and said you can only serve two terms, a maximum of two terms, they're one of the

few individuals whose constitutional rights have been taken away. they can no longer be president. other people can run for president. neil: you're right about that. >> they can't do that. so they, yet they're great public servants and they recognize the noble call of public service. i would think he would look to contribute again, but i'm not sure he should have the expectation that it will happen over the next four years. neil: you're probably right about that some of the more pagentry we're watching now, it is president trump will be participating in a signing ceremony in the president's room. there is a luncheon with some of his colleagues, some of whom swear by him. others have been known to swear at him but they recognize what is the process that we call our duly-elected president and this is our 45th one. it is interesting to note the

congratulatory calls and missives coming in from the japanese prime minister, the very first foreign leader to meet with then president-elect trump, shinzo abe, i would like to express my heartfelt congratulations to you as your inauguration of president of the united states of america. it was pleasure to me. it was to have a candid exchanges of views at your home in new york in november. to insure the peace and prosperity of the asia-pacific region and to address various challenges the international community faces. much has been made of those challenges and what will be ahead for donald trump. i find it interesting to get a quick read of this relatively short address, a little more than 15 minutes on the part of donald trump, how the media has been covering it. "the washington post" with a headline. trump sworn in marking a transformative shift in the country's leadership. "l.a. times," trump sworn in as president, divisive singular figure assuming power.

op-ed again, i stress, an op-ed in the daily news today. today is one of the dumbest days in american history. we're free to say what we will and say what we will. peter barnes is with us taking a look at all of this. you know, peter, we'll be watching very closely what this president does in these next few hours because he took washington by storm, some think in these next few days he will do the same. obviously he could issue a lot of executive orders to undo the executive orders of his predecessor, but are you hearing anything, what his plans might be? reporter: you're right, neil. in fact when he gets over to the white house after the parade, and he has some time, he is going to be signing some executive orders. some of those are routine ones new president signs regarding security, including for his family and others, but there's also some speculation, some

reporting that he might actually sign some significant executive orders that would undo a handful of things today, that president obama executedded through an executive order. his staff has vetted about 200 executive orders that president, now president trump could sign in these early days, on all matter of things from, from energy policy and health care and immigration right down the line. so we do expect that he could be getting right to work as his press secretary sean spicer told us the other day. neil: peter, maybe you would know this, we're looking at the vice president, looks to be at union station in washington. is he going to take a train back to delaware, what is he going to do? reporter: yeah. joe biden taking train back to delaware. he always took the train. neil: you're right.

it faces and convenient. without joe biden, amtrak wouldn't be around. >> true, true. that is one of the things that made him, a very well-liked person here in washington was the fact that he was, he just would jump on the train to go home. neil: it's convenient. andy card, you've been very patient with us for a while. there are changes that the obamas have to get used to as well. when you're no longer president, they don't clear traffic for you anymore, right? it was your boss who said, also you just can't wake up and walk on to a golf course and start playing, right? so some of that goes. you miss air force one, miss the convenience of a job that takes like a minute to walk down the staircase to get to work but what was that like for former president bush? >> the life of a former president is pretty good.

still have secret service driving them around. neil: absolutely. >> they don't have to stand in the tsa line to get on a plane. life -- neil: could you imagine, could you imagine how that would go? >> but i will say there is a recognition that you're no longer president that there is a little bit of sadness and you're depressed. here you were the leader of the free world. literally at the stroke of noon, you stop being the leader of the free world. so you can't so you can't impose on others opportunities you think are best for america. you can opine on them but can't really imposed anything. there is a transition. but it is also a chance to say, thank you for relieving some of the burden that i was carrying when i was in office. but there is one burden they never get rid of, and that's the burden there are young men and

women that made sacrifices they would never invite on anyone because the president needed help keeping his oath of office. and so every president, especially the former presidents, are forever grateful to those military men and women and those in the intelligence services that made sacrifices to help the president keep their oath of office. that is a burden that never goes away. neil: thank you, my friend. very much, and for your service to this country, particularly during 9/11 and everything else. you maintained your calm as well. by the way we're getting reports, "usa today.," amongst others, among the first acts president trump will do action reversing the president's climate action plan. no details how we will do that, either by executive order some other means. that is not unusual. some other regulations put in place, some as recently as two weeks ago have to do with climate change. some have to do as add-ons to affordable care act, better

known as obamacare could be in the offing this is the president's prerogative. president's entering office make statements bold and quick like that one assuming office. donald trump is tweeting now as president of the united states. he is saying today, we're not merely transferring power of one administration to another or from one party to another, but we're transferring power from washington, d.c., and giving it back to you the american people. he added after that tweet, see, i'm still tweeting. he didn't say that, but it is remarkable. but again, much has been made about his tweeting. barack obama tweeted as well and thanked american people as well for the opportunity they gave him. arriving to address his own staff members getting a chance to thank them at joint base

andrews. if he us did that we'll go to him. trish regan is with me right now. we think of the p.m. and circumstance of these days. it is remarkable, whatever our differences, whatever our agitations, this peaceful transsuggestion of power. >> neil, it gives me goosebumps, it's a day that makes you so proud of this country. how fortunate we all are to be here. this transfer of power is very much a reason for that. neil: indeed. >> so it was, i thought he gave a wonderful speech. it was a speech that was very true to his ideals and themes he promoted on the campaign trail. one of the things that is important about what he's doing, he is trying to restore this

hope that i think some people had lost in recent years. he mentioned we'll bring back our wealth and bring back importantly, he said, our dreams. and we need that. we need that optimistic outlook for where things can be better. we, as a country, have lost some of that i think that will be one of his important contributions, this ability to sort of get people excited. certainly he got his base excited in order to do with the other side. neil: yeah. as we see, again, this is a little bit of the pomp and circumstance as they get ready for this luncheon. it will include some cabinet member choices that the president has made, including some of the questioners who were only yesterday grilling those choices. earlier on we had a view of retired general john mattis who looks likely to be confirmed among the first cabinet picks who will be confirmed.

separately we've gotten reports or news that rex tillerson, the choice for secretary of state, that a vote could come as early as next monday. this president looks likely to have about two to three, maybe, four of those cabinet choices in place. that seems very, very low, trish, but apparently that is in keeping with historical norms. i don't know if you're the president you want to get going and get your cabinet departments going you really can't. but are other things you can do to make statements. >> he wants to hit the ground running. we saw throughout last several weeks as president-elect he was taking meetings. in some way the left started getting a little bit of annoyed. look, you can only have one president at once. he is not about the guy to let any dust settle underneath him. he took a lot of meetings. he put a lot of things in place. as far as the cabinet goes, look, rex tillerson, i agree

with you that he probably will get confirmed, and he's someone that, you know, as you know, ran a massive company. it is almost like running a small country when you think about it. neil: exxonmobil is just that. the ex-president is at joint base andrews, this is his next step. his former of staff are already there, would love to hear from him. he is off to palm springs, california. up with of the things i understand, trish, on right-hand side of the screen the prominent of the prominent were here to praise barack obama eight years ago and his successor and some questioning quite heatedly, donald trump's cabinet choices. in the case of what barack obama does now, we talk about the fact he is relatively young man at

55, trust me trish that is a young age, what's ahead for him and what he will do. he tried to get michelle golfing. apparently she has zero interest in it? >> i don't blame her. neil: he might have had dibs on the vacation venue, a big golfing paradise? where do you see these two going? >> they will be living right down the street from the white house. one can understand as andy card was saying their daughter is in high school and want consistency for her. it will be a little tricky, interesting how much he wants to stay in politics. michelle obama will be interesting to watch. she is an extraordinary speaker. she in some ways already started to, somewhat carve out a platform for herself, for example, going on oprah saying there is really no hope left, et cetera. it seems as though she is trying to galvanize, if you would, members of her base which makes me wonder if there could be

potential political future for her. they are very young and i can't imagine they will go away quietly. they have enormous potential what they could accomplish still. the clintons of course, started the foundation. made millions of dollars in speaking fees. certainly barack and michelle -- neil: that might be in trouble now. >> a little tough. there are a few layoffs going on at the foundation because of donations -- neil: looking, jimmy carter. 40 years ago today he was sworn in as president. 40 years ago today. many have argued he is probably been the most successful of our ex-presidents. others who remember what he did for human rights and some of the crises he was dealt, one much our better presidents when it came to those issues. that's always subjective call. leave it to the historians to weigh in on that, but we are getting donald trump weighing in on the magnitude of today's events via, surprise, twitter.

he says the forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer, echoing a theme from his speech. from this moment on it is going to be america first. we will bring back our jobs. we will bring back our borders. we will bring back our wealth. and we will bring back our dreams. i mention that because i don't want to attach it to words in an address to affect the what happened on the dow jones industrials but after address, it was about 70 points lower than it was going into his address. whether the two are attached i don't know, but, it is interesting to note. scott brown, who joins us, former senator, from the wonderful state of massachusetts. scott brown, much is made of the got donald trump to this moment. if people thought he would hold back he proved people wrong but he might have rattled markets against with a theme that sounded protection it, even though that was not much different what he said on the

stump and campaigned on but they read into it at least initially he might be upping the protectionist ante. does that worry you? do you agree with that? >> no. first i don't agree with it. i don't care what the stock market does. i care what the president and his new team do, as a result of putting things going forward, lowering taxes repatriating offshore money, resecuring our borders, re-establishing our relations with our allies and fear in our foes, that will do wonderfully for the stock market and every person individually and every business is trying to provide for their families and employees. that is what i'm concerned about. it is a good message. there is a new sheriff in town and he will go for the jugular each and every time. he will hold everybody responsible, so-called washington insiders, elite, elected officials to do their jobs f not he will try to do do

it himself. neil: scott, which shouldn't be surprised to your point that he would hold back he was surrounded by the elites on the dais, including bill clinton and hillary clinton. obviously the woman he beat, surprisingly so for this post. but he made it very, very clear, i'm here to sort of shatter things. shatter it away he did. some are interpreting that speech, short as it was, as a clarion call to like an andrew jacksonian rebellion. do you buy that? >> no. before i answer that, i want, i think what the clintons did was very class system i thought they held themselves with great dignity and purpose and really, i think showed all the people outside protesting how it should be done. so i want to thank them as a citizen of america. with regard to the, jacksonian rebellion, listen, america rebelled. they reject ad third president obama term as hillary clinton representing that term. they want to go in a different

direction. they're tired of interference with government in their every day lives. tired of always in our faces with everything. they want to go in a different direction. hopefully this creates opportunity not only for for folks here in washington. but as the president said, everybody throughout the country. so they have a choice, get on board or keep complaining. neil: you know, the, the trump challenge now, scott, is going to be to fulfill those promises to try to get a lot through and argue that, i was elected and duly elected, around this mandate for change. democrats come back and say you don't have such a mandate. how does he play that especially when it comes to undoing the president's health care law that majority of americans like, warts and all? does he have to sell it on the notion that, i'm going to come up with something better, and does that explain his position, when we repeal this thing we

have a replacement right way way? >> with regard to the polling that people all of sudden imagine he cannily love obamacare, neil, with all do that i think they're a little bit nervous. the devil you know versus the devil you don't know. neil: right. >> once proposals are put forward people care about, you know what they are, preexisting conditions, catastrophic care and coverages, covering your kids 26 years old, those are all great. they will be in there. how about lowering co-pays? how about lowering deductibles? how about providing more in the plan that costs two or three or four times more than it used to cost? that is what we're talking about, putting a plan back in the states to develop their own plans and do quite frankly much better than the federal government. that is what is exciting about the whole opportunity. there of course is a little bit of nervousness reflected in the polls. i can tell you folks i'm speaking with, and thank god, get it out of there. let us go back to 40,-50 hour

work week. pay people overtime in proper manner. stop taking wet blanket off businesses and individuals and kick some butt, create jobs. that's what it says. neil: you know, we're just getting word the pope has sent out, i don't know if it is a tweet, how does the pope get the word out. >> the pope tweets and prays, neil. neil: the pope urges trump to show concern for the poor and out cast. be guided by ethical values. not too surprising, pope is very concerned about the plight of hundreds of thousands of syria's migrants, and that they are in a sort of a twilight zone. that all of the good peoples of the earth as he said, have obligation to these people. we all breathe the same air and share the same goals. sort of a play off john f. kennedy. what do you make of that, the fact this pope seems to be sending ainging a signal to

donald trump, i'm going to be watching you? >> people who are brown, white and black all bleed red. this is same theory, of course we care about people that aredown trodden. america is one of the most philanthropic countries in entire world. i appreciate the pope reminding us of that but we know it. but not for missteps in syria drawing red line and doing nothing. appreciate what the pope's doing and hopefully he will continue to move forward in that regard. neil: thank you very much. barack obama in his final comments now before leaves washington, thanking the folks, well, who got him there. >> you know, i said before, and i will say again that when we started on this journey we did so with an abiding faith in the

american people and their ability, our ability, to join together and change the country in ways that would make life better for our kids and our grandkids. that change didn't happen from the top down but it happened from the bottom up. it was met sometimes with skepticism and doubt. some folks didn't think we could pull it off. there were those who felt that the institutions of power and privilege in this country were too deeply entrenched and yet, all of you came together in

small towns and big cities, a whole bunch of you really young, and you decided to believe. and you knocked on doors and you made phone calls and you talked to your parents, who didn't know how to pronounce barack obama, and you got to know each other and you went into communities that maybe you'd never even thought about visiting, and met people that on the surface seemed completely different than you, didn't look like you or talk like you or watch the same tv programs as you, and yet once you started talking to them it turned out you had something in common and it grew and it built and people took notice and throughout it was infused with a sense of hope.

and as i said in 2004 it wasn't blind optimism that drove you to do all this work. it wasn't naivete, it wasn't willful ignorance to all of the challenges that america faces. it was hope in the face of difficulty. hope in the face of uncertainty. you proved the power of hope and throughout this process michelle and i we've just been your front men and women. we have been the face, sometimes the voice, out front on the tv screen or in front of the microphone but this has never been about us it's always been about you. and all the amazing things that

happened over these last 10 years are really just a testament to you. in same way we talk about our amazing military and men and women in uniform. the military is not a thing. it's a group of committed patriots, will towing sacrifice everything on our behalf. it works only because -- [applause] of the people in it. as cool as the hardware is and we got cool hardware, as cool as machines and weapons weapons and satellites are, ultimately comes down to remarkable people. some manyof them a lot closer to

malia's age than mine or michelle's. the same is true about our democracy. it is not the buildings and it is not the monuments. it is you being willing to work to make things better and listen to each other and argue with each other and come together, to knock on doors and make phone calls and treat people with respect and that doesn't end. neil: i do want to switch to donald trump right now. he is the president, chief executive of the united states. i know this looks like a scene out of "the apprentice," trust me it is not. it's a formal signing ceremony here. he has been talking to colleagues and who's who of washington behind him that makes that presidency official. he was sworn in little more than an hour and 20 minutes ago, that makes it official. he is signing a variety of documents i'm told make it really, really official, like

closing on a house. in this case a closing on the white house, let's listen into that. if we go there full. there are a number of kids, his own included there and some kids of representatives including paul ryan's children. let's listen to donald trump. [inaudible]. neil: all right, we're listening, if donald trump says anything, melania trump in the background. trish is up on this, knows all these children and who's who. can you update me? >> that is his little

granddaughter there, next to her grand father. that is really -- neil: baron trump behind, right? >> that is his son as well. of course his daughter, ivanka, next to his wife. mike pence, his wife. paul ryan, big crowd for the signing. neil: all right, all right. let me ask you, did you know melania trump, this is kind of a big deal, you know me that i'm a fashionista, that that is a ralh lauren outfit. >> i had heard that. neil: that is similar to the color jackie kennedy wore for her husband's inauguration. >> with a hat. neil: no hat here. >> for the inauguration. trish: there was controversy with designers and who would design for the ball tonight. tom ford said i would not design

anything for her to wear. ralph lauren, who interestingly designed hillary clinton's pantsuits, that is what i call a bipartisan designer. he custom-made this for her today. neil: i'm getting word, among the things that donald trump is signing is, a form that essentially allows john mattis to serve as defense secretary, even if he is still not been officially approved by the senate. these are foreign policy positions. they have to be filled by the foreign policy team. it has to be in there. among the paperwork, it is quite a very large signature here. it is very distinct signature. no denying that is donald trump. among the documents establishing those foreign policy positions. nigel farage joining us. who got all of this populace going as we're watching all of this, with "brexit" and your

instrumental role getting britain out of a european union. you always stressed it wasn't leaving europe. it was just leaving, i think you put it, god-awful union that started this god-awful protest against establishments everywhere, this is all your doing. nigel, welcome. >> thank you. i would love to think that. i would like to think i played a small part. normally what happens the uk follows american trends. i would like to think "brexit" kind of set the path, and gave a bit of inspiration to team trump. and to ordinary voters because the message from "brexit" was, if the ordinary folks go out and vote, we can topple the establishment. we did it in the united kingdom. you've done it here. i have to say listening to trump's speech today, this is a political revolution and it is very exciting. neil: all right. i just want to listen if i can, donald trump is commenting,

sending a few zingers chuck schumer's way. let's give a listen. [inaudible] >> this is what -- [inaudible]. >> chuck, you're growing to get the cap on it and -- >> [inaudible]. >> john kelly. reince, you should get something. come on, reince. >> [inaudible]. >> getting some more pens back there? who is -- >> equal number for the cabinet. >> i think dan should get that, right? neil: there are a number of documents that he is signing. you might notice looks like two

bins ever pens. what have you, but there is a reason for that, as well, every time a president sign as document, uses a pen, gives that pen to ones instrumental in the things he is signing, that it is just carries more cachet. those pens, he gives them back out to the crowd behind him, they invariably frame the pen, save the pen, has some historical significance even though it was about 400 used on that day. i exaggerate to make the point that this is part of political theater. this is part of the process of being the president of the united states. signing stuff, especially stuff that will, as the day insures will change a lot of stuff his predecessor is. on the wires, theresa may, prime minister won't last and donald trump is would-be dictator. what do you think of that? >> soros had big victories

economically in his life, politically, last year he was a big loser. he does not accept the fundamental changes that occurred. he thinks "brexit" and trump are merely blips, and that we'll go back to this idea, that we are nation states don't control our borders and give away the ability to make our laws. soros is wrong. i think 2016 marks absolute pivot point in global history. i expect this revolution to continue through 2017. neil: you know, much like what happened in your country, he is already getting blasted by t mainstream media for his remarks being divisive. i don't know why that should surprise a lot of folks, he promised to be essentially a bull in china shop. ran as that during the election and will govern that way. talk that he is going to undo a lot of executive orders on the part of president obama. the establishment is already reeling at that.

what do you make of that, nigel? >> he will be true to his word, neil. he have campaigned as a radical. he campaigned for change, and there is going to be change. yeah, just look at faces of the people on the stage, the political class and former presidents. when he was speaking they all looked like they were sucking a lemon. so, yeah, the establishment here in washington is in for a very major shock. what trump will do, he will hold true to his voters. you know something? that is called democracy. the point of democracy is we can vote every few years to change direction. this country just changed direction in a very big way. neil: all right. as we watch this, i want to, if we can, to donald trump. he is saying some interesting things to democrats there and republicans his preference signing certain documents in a certain order. let's listen in. >> -- renewable fuel standard.

>> i'll tell you, he is a terrific guy. longest serving governor, longest serving governor, in history. here is one, not at all controversial, david -- who you must know. [inaudible] said that about me. david will do a great job. back there. proclamation. okay. >> this is -- [inaudible] >> all right. [applause]

neil: all right. signed a lot of documents there. it would be funny if one of them was sort of renovation loan at the white house. but it is all done. and now, this is kind of formalized there. trish regan, as you and i are watching this here, can't help but note melania trump, pushed into this very public role. she was not active during the campaign. eschewed much of that, focus on young baron trump. she is thrust into this position of being first lady. largely in the beginning out of new york. so conrad can stay uninterrupted in school. trish: they will still stay in new york. he has a few months left in the school year. he will complete that, in manhattan, neil, presumably at that-point move to the white house full-time and theoretically settle into a new school here in d.c., in

september. keep in mind, this has to be, in some ways, she probably knew her husband had these aspirations. it has to be a bit of a shock and surprise. i don't know she came across as political herself, but being thrust into this, some political wives, when you look at hillary clinton, who had her sights set on the same goal as her husband from day one, many political wives are really working alongside their husbands to achieve those goals, and are very much a part of the political machine. melania trump, on the other hand, seemed to be quite resistant to that, and got thrust into this position. i think she will do a phenomenal job. i can tell you everyone who has come across her, i say this on personal level, people i've interacted with her, say she is extraordinary person. they can't say one bad thing about her. she is kind and nice. people that met her socially

long before any of all this started. i think she is up for the challenge but it is a challenge. it's a job. neil: did you know right away that was a ralph lauren she had on? trish: no, i didn't, but in my defense, it was custom, which means it is not out there for anybody else to buy. neil: i gotcha. i gotcha. we're looking at a who's who of the elite if you will. the very same group that collectively donald trump was essentially bashing in his inaugural address. i'm interested in a lot of the media reaction to that address where you know, he was, going after the very folks who were up there with him to send a message there is a new sheriff in town, things are going to change. i do have good news to pass along concerning president bush who remains stable in icu in houston methodist hospital. he is breathing very well on his own right now with minimal supplemental oxygen. continues to rest comfortably.

he was watching the inaugural coverage together with mrs. bush who was also doing well. so that's very, very good news there. connell mcshane out in the chill of this day, here in washington, d.c. as we're watching this inaugural luncheon kick off. donald trump is enroute. he has signed all necessary documents. i don't even know what they are but he signed a lot of stuff. so i think he just bought the capitol but he doesn't know it but the fact of the matter some of the documents that he signed, as you look at retired general john mattis, there was allowance made for him to go ahead and assume his position as defense secretary right away, so that we are covered in a key foreign policy post is manned and ready for the new president who is already been sworn in as the 45th president of the united states. but, connell, what do you see where you are? reporter: we're just monitoring

reaction from all sorts of places here as the crowd files out of the mall where we are, in the middle of washington, d.c. you see more of the trump family members including young baron making their way in through the capitol right now. the twitter accounts of various members of congress putting out messages of congratulations. one notable congratulatory note came out after trump's inaugural address from senator tim kaine saying he was congratulating mr. trump and vice president pence as they take on as he put it this monumental duty and it will be successful for all americans. tim kaine sworn in himself as vice president. . .

that opened up to -- well, i guess it's fairly sweet during the inaugural address, and it was the new @potus account, which is the official account of the president of the united states. and just like that, that new account, even though it has no tweets and who knows if it ever will because this new president has promised he will communicate via his own twitter account. it already has 4 million followers. so that was pretty quick. and even though at these has said a word yet or tweeted the word. so it's, you know, just watching these various reactions and these pictures from the capitol, there's eric trump and his wife making their way back as well. and to do that as we are now in split screen with the

former president leaving, it's been quite a day; right? neil: it has been quite a day. and i guess you didn't know that melania was wearing ralph lauren; right? >> oh, i was all over that this morning, neil. i was the first one to report it, as you might suspect. we were all over that. . neil: i'm wearing -- i'm wearing early macy's. >> who are you wearing, neil? . neil: exactly. who -- and who really cares? no one really cares what linda and i are wearing. but one of the things that's interesting in the speech, it was on the part of donald trump was that this notion that it's going to be america first. now, there were a number of other mentions trying to

project america jobs, trying to look at the american worker. nothing different than what he hasn't said on the stump before and what he hasn't complained on for the last 18 months. yet, maybe the reality of that in his inaugural address led to a, you know, a bit of a drop off in the dow, down about 70 points during the course of the speech. i'm not blaming it exclusively on the speech, of course, but it's soft like the good cop, bad cop reminders that wall street will have with donald trump. they like the idea of fewer regulations. they like the idea of lower taxes. they don't like some of the facts that he might aggressively go after u.s. multinational concerns that have a lot of stuff outside our nation. how do you think that's all going to go down? >> well, a couple of things. i think number one on the day of as you know and the minute to minute tick by tick of the stock market, it's always difficult to assign, you know, reasoning for why things are

moving in one direction or another. as an example of that, donald trump in his inaugural address pumped up the fact that there would be more infrastructure spending. something he had talked about in the past. but stocks as a group did not go up after that, they went down. so, you know, who knows on a minute by minute. now, one of the things in terms of expectations versus reality is that in a inaugural address, i think many times people, and this is a day of tradition, think that a traditional republican president will be talking in ways that we are accustomed to republicans speaking. but instead, in many ways what we have today is vintage donald trump. and vintage donald trump is popular. we saw it on the campaign, and we saw it today in this speech. that's the way it has been. it shouldn't be surprising, hey, january 20th, 2017 will be remembered as the day the people became rulers. and that's the theme of the speech. returning power to the people. telling people you will never be ignored again. even in his speech out at the republican convention, those

are many of the themes that he hit on and many of the rallies that he attended. those are the themes that he hit on, and he did it again today. it's not so much donald trump new republican president as donald trump populous. that's what he's been, and that's what he was today. i don't know how that plays into the stock market reaction but, you know, that's what struck me as he was speaking. neil: very much so. joined right now by congresswoman, beautiful state of utah. and you've probably heard much of the establishment press on donald trump's remarks and that they were divisive. set the wrong tone. on and on about something that shouldn't strike too many as surprising. he just echoed what he said before. but he entered this race as a bull in a china shop, and he seems to be eager to rule that way. what do you make of that? >> i think that his speech was right for the right time and the right place with the right people. i mean, this crowd wasn't a wine and cheese crowd.

these are people who have been frustrated who felt that the country has ignored them and, you know, i was actually pretty impressed, and i was heartened to hear him talk about bringing power back to the people. because that's why i came here. so i'm really excited to see how we actually get that to happen, and i'm just really excited about it. neil: you know, congresswoman, on the left of your screen, you're looking at barack and michelle obama boarding what used to be considered air force one. it's not considered that when it's the present president of the united states in that plane. but he gets to use it going back to palm springs, california, we're told for a nice golfing vacation. don't know if his wife michelle was able to rule in on that. but beautiful weather there. 72 degrees as we speak for those who just want to get out of the washington chill and cold. i don't know how he's going to return to washington because he will be living in the

district, as his daughter wraps up high school. but i can't picture him in a jetblue flight. but you never know. you never know, congresswoman. but how do you think the obama's will be remembered? president obama will be remembered? certainly historic and yet the legacy that he left is one of the big reasons why this man and his wife are now the new power couple in washington. what do you think? >> i guess that depends on who you and how he's going to be remembered. you know, there are -- the american people have been really frustrated. i mean, especially when it comes to health care, it comes to education in utah. when it comes to land. i mean, i don't know if you remembered this, but just weeks ago, he declared monument, taking quite a bit of land from the state of utah. and it was without any of our support. you know, these are the types of things that we remember. the executive action. and all of the decisions being

made in one administration and taking the decision-making out of the hands of the american people. the other thing i want to make sure that we bring up is the fact that we, i believe, are more divided today than we were eight years ago. there's a lot of healing to be done. i mean, ping people up against each other based on income level, social status, race, and gender. you know, there -- we have got to find a way so that we are all on the same team and that we're helping every american go from the lowest common denominator up. and giving people as many opportunities as possible. . neil: all right, congresswoman, i want to thank you very much. what you're watching right now, hail to the chief for the first time he has fully heard that. donald trump the 45th president of the united states. with me now is larry as we're watching this inaugural luncheon. professor, educate me what happens at this luncheon. >> well, at the luncheon, it's really an opportunity for the new president to greet a wider group of members of congress

and other dignitaries and perhaps he has fire to this. and of course he's a new president. this is a high status thing, neil. they never had you or me at it. neither one of us has ever gotten in there. neil: it has to be hard when i look at hillary clinton, i know she's doing all of this noticeabl noble. it has to be tough. >> when i saw her on that platform, i thought of that famous picture of kennedy's famous. this was a close election, and they're thinking about 1,000 ways they might have won but didn't. neil: indeed. let's listen into this for a second.

>> mr. vice president, honored guests, welcome to this inaugural luncheon. the joint congressional committee on inaugural ceremonies has been pleased to host this lunch at least since 1953 with president eisenhower. in 1981, president reagan's first inauguration, the lunch took its current form and moved to this grand hall, the national statuary hall, which served until 1857 as the chamber of the house of representatives. the statues that line the walls of this room are placed throughout the capitol, and they recognize important figures in our national history. the collection and statuary hall doesn't change very often. but actually, since this lunch was held the last time, it has had several additions. rosa parks is now in statuary hall, and she is of course seated rather than standing,

as she should be. [applause] when ms. parks died in 2005, one of the few people who never held any public office or served in the military to lay and honor in the capitol rotunda and several of us were there that day. another addition, norman, the leader of the green revolution. though, this green revolution was about his great efforts to feed people the demands and food production, and he was really a leader in that area and talking to governor purdue last night about what's going to happen as world food demand doubles in 35 or 40 years and the great opportunity we have barry goldwater, a real inspiration to a generation of conservatives was added to statuary hall over the last

few years. and thomas edison of ohio who discovered more than 10,000 ways not to make a lightbulb, until he discovered the one way to make that lightbulb. the painting in the middle of the room is from a great missouri artist george caleb bingum. he did three election series. the painting here. three painting series. one was stump speaking. one was the county election, and this one is verdict of the people. in the 1850s when this was painted, often it was several days after the election before the results were announced, and all kinds of people are in this painting. people from all walks of life. people who are excited. people who are confused. people who wonder what's happened, and people who wonder what's going to happen are all there. actually, he painted this painting about the same time that in this

very room some of the least successful debates in the history of our country were being held. and of course that we paid the price for not being able to find solutions. and one of them favorite statues in the building is in the room that i have here in the capitol right now. i had it in the whips office when i was the whip in the house. and it's one of my favorites because nobody knows who it is. and i don't mean nobody here can guess who it is, i mean, nobody knows who it is. and nobody has known who it was since about 1930. couldn't have been in the capitol building more than 100 years before people began to wonder who is this person? and i think it's a great reminder that what we do here is a lot more important than who we are. so we have worked in front of us. it's a wonderful opportunity. it is a great day, and i'm asking barry black, the chaplin of the senate to come

and give us our opening prayer. >> let us pray. internal lord god, our refuge and strength, we praise you that we have nothing to fear. we can stand fearlessly during this season of peaceful transition because we know your province will prevail. lord, we're grateful for this inaugural luncheon and for your providence that has brought president donald j. trump to this milestone moment. you have admonished us to pray for leaders and governments,

so we pray for our new president. lord, crowned his labors with success. leading him to the destination you have chosen. surround him, his family, and the members of his cabinet with the shield of your divine protection and favor. may president trump seek your wisdom, justice, and grace. leading with your strength, which reaches out to those on life's margins, the lost, lonely, last, least, and left out. may he remember that those who would leave a legacy of greatness must strive to

become servants of all. lord, inspire our president to perform his god-appointed duties with such referenced for you that his tenure will be like the sun shining forth on a cloudless morning. like a rainbow after a storm, and like the singing of the birds at dawn. bless our food and fellowship, we pray. in your sovereign name. amen. >> lunch will be served. . neil: all right. i believe

the cameras have to go at this point. i don't know what they're serving for lunch. i do know melania trump is wearing ralph lauren. so if you have any questions on that, i'm here with my good friend and political historian extraordinaire also a fashionista like me in his own right. he is wearing early j.c. penney. >> it's a good store. it's a good store. neil: very nice to see you. let me get a take on the order events today. i know where we are and if we can widen it out today, we are on pennsylvania avenue directly in front of the white house. is obviously it's blocked by a reviewing stand. every four years, they construct for the new president of the united states. so donald trump will be there shortly to review a parade. this one we're told is going to be about 90 minutes in duration. >> right. neil: where does that stack up with other parades? >> it's shorter. neil: it is. >> and thank goodness for that.

although, it hasn't been as cold as pastimes. neil: i remember. four years ago, eight years ago. ronald reagan holds the record of extremes. '85. >> it was so cold, they had to cancel the parade and simply held it in a room at the capitol and hardly anybody got in. and that was even more high status than the capitol luncheon we're looking at right now. so we weren't therezine, yeah, we're not there for the one -- like anyone can go to that. we're not allowed. of course we'll never see anything like barack obama saw eight years ago. but it was a fairly large crowd. it was his base that was out there. his base he was addressing just monitoring various media reaction, and they think it was a divisive speech. i didn't see anything in that that wasn't very different from his campaign, but you tell me. >> well, first of all, on the crowds, i predicted in advance that would be the first

argument of the new administration. how big was the crowd? and my answer is who cares. neil: yeah. >> loads and loads and loads of people were there. second, as far as the speech, i recognize a lot of the things. i know you did. they were more eloquent as the inaugural address. but this is what the guy ran on. naturally he's going to focus on that, as he's addressing his supporters for the first time as president. . neil: the very elites he was railing against who were sitting up there with him. are presidents cognizant of that as doing their speech? i think of john kennedy referring to the torch being passed to a new generation, knowing eisenhower was there. and, hey, are you ripping me for being the old guy? play that out for me. >> well, i think they do, and they probably enjoy it, and what they most enjoy doing is sticking it ever so gently to those who maybe didn't support them. as you looked at the former

presidents up there on the platform, not one supported or voted for donald trump. neil: yeah, you're right. >> see, i mean, good -- all things come around; right? what's that say? . neil: well, let me ask you. if you're the president -- >> what goes around, comes around. neil: i was just trying to move on. >> right. neil: but let me get your take. i thought of the way john kennedy shook hands and had a few words, i guess, of the inauguration with richard nixon. >> yeah. neil: obviously there was that moment there where donald trump shook hands and had a brief hug for hillary clinton. but you're aware in this case as we've seen of late the victor and the vanquish usually up there together. it has got to be weird. >> well, it's awkward for the one who lost. it really isn't that awkward for the winner. . neil: but what about the 60 some odd who opted out not to be here? what message did hillary clinton send by being there?

>> well, she said -- and so did nancy pelosi and senator schumer and the other prominent democrats who showed up, this is what you should do. this is the appropriate conduct. i totally disagree with the boycotting. neil: john lewis as well? this all started with civil rights icon, atlanta congressman saying "donald trump is not a legitimate president" and of course trump tweeted. but be that as it may, the pylon built up. >> let me just mention historically we saw this once before. january 20th, 1983 about 80 congressman boycotted president nixon's inaugural. i know you remember that. that was a peak period. neil: what was the beef at the time? >> well, it was the war in vietnam. watergate. so there's a precedent for this. but look -- neil: lewis did the same with

george w. bush. >> he did. let me put it this way. this democratic party doesn't have the presidency anymore. doesn't have the senate. doesn't have the house. doesn't have a large majority of the governships in the state legislative positions. don't you think maybe she should save their bullets for something that's actually important, rather than something symbolic like this? it's frankly rude. neil: a lot of the bullet districts or two-thirds come from california where hillary clinton ran the popular vote. but wonderful congresswoman from beautiful state of utah still with us, and i wonder what message they send, congresswoman, by not going. and whether, you know, bygones can be bygones, next monday when everybody gets to work and earnest. how do you think that's going to go? >> i think there are people that are missing the point here. this house does not belong to a particular person. the white house, the u.s. house, the senate.

it belongs to the people. it doesn't belong to barack obama. it doesn't belong to donald trump. it belongs to us, the people. and by not being there, not showing up is saying that you are absent from representing the people that deserve to be there. so, again, i think, you know, there are -- i'm not going to criticize -- i mean, you can do whatever you want to. but i think that showing up is part of the battle. it's part of getting there, getting involved, and making sure that the people that you represent aren't victimized. that they're empowered. . neil: that's very well put. and, congresswoman, i know you want to know this, and i know my colleague want to know it, but we're always trying to break news that you can't routinely find elsewhere, as of today the 2017 luncheon. we already broke the news here that of course melania trump was wearing ralph lauren. now we can say on very good authority that the first course today is main lobster and shrimp with saffron sauce

and peanut crumble. >> what am i doing here? . neil: i don't know i was i'm going to ask you the same thing. and all are considered heart friendly, unless you get to the second course. grilled steak with dark chocolate. now we're calling artery-closing affair. what do you think of that? >> it's a great celebration. have a good time and get back to work. that's what i say. neil: says she who is as fit as a fiddle. that's fine. congresswoman, thank you very, very much. now, these are interesting. i always wonder when those doors closed, does it ever get nasty? you know in cases in that venue, you have a lot of big egos and very easily damaged egos who might let it slide. >> well, it might have, but it's ever leaked out. but if i can make a serious point in the midst of this trivia that you have -- neil: the main lobster is trivial to you?

that's your tax dollars to work. >> it could be a private fund. this i think is significant. if you noticed when the waiters were serving liquor, they skipped over the new president because he does not drink. neil: he does not drink. >> he does not drink. and he hasn't maybe ever but certainly for decades. neil: that's right. >> and that sends a little message too. i would like some of my students to hear that message neil: he likes fast food. >> well, when you have a virtue, you get a vice. neil: story of my life. now, let's get down to some tax here because this president has a lot of things he wants to do. and a lot of them involve undoing what his predecessor did. now, presumably he's going to do a lot and initially the executive order. so the other side is going to come back. unlike all of these executive orders, we don't let go of your executive orders. but it is a quick way to make a statement, isn't it? >> it is.

and, look, let's remember with our system, indicted powers, three branches, not to mention the state, it's difficult to get anything done. what a president wants to do right from the beginning is to project the image of action, of leadership, things are changing right away, which is what was in the speech. from this day forward, this is a great way to do it. i mean, if he was submitting legislation, if he were lucky, it would be six or eight months; right? mother's day resolution that would take him a while. neil: but do you think we flave age now. i joke with people that it's no longer 100 days. you have to make a statement in 100 minutes, 100 hours, you know? that we -- that kind of expectation. >> well, that's why he uses twitter. . neil: and apparently was tweeting out today. he was tweeting out today. so he's obviously going to continue doing so. he feels he can bypass the press. now, we're told in that white house behind us pass the

parade, he's going to keep the white house briefing room the way it is. but there are no guarantees it will permanent be that way. what do you think the message he's sending? >> well, it's the story hanging over the press court. if you're not good, we may cut that final thread in the sort of -- neil: when they got that briefing room, larry. >> nixon. neil: it was nixon; right? had 49 suites. >> right. neil: but there are more than 200 recorded white house reporters. so are those 49 seats all -- >> as i understand it, you do have some that aral owe indicated to the big media organizations. fox, fox business, various fox. neil: gotcha. >> and then, you know, the networks. all the networks get them and so on. the other ones, whatever they are. but what's interesting is the other ones ones are up for

grab. if there's a reason why a particular reporter for a particular outlet should be there, they'll reserve a seat. neil: yeah, but -- >> they found instantly that he was really good at it. they knew they had found something that worked. neil: it was ratings gold. >> the bigger the deal, the better for the president because he has wider latitude in picking people. neil: very good point. stay here. you're not going to go anywhere; right? >> i'm going to stay here. neil: just work with me all right. all right. so we broke news on what they're eating, what melania is wearing, you're probably wondering how stocks are doing. achoo! (snap) achoo! (snap) achoo! achoo!

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>> we will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action, constantly complaining but never doing anything about it. the time for empty talk is over. now arrives the hour of action. . neil: well, no one up there was applauding that because everyone up there was saying, hey, is he talking about me? welcome back, everybody. donald trump is now the 45th president of the united states. and a rocket address. i think it's fair to say it was fairly rockets, keeps to his campaign theme that

proverbial bull in the china shop. and that approach, i'm very glad to have a historian and friend. >> it was very populous. in fact, i went back and read, knowing you were going to ask me that, i read both of andrew jackson's inaugurals last night. neil: see, that's where i screwed up. i read fillmore's, and i said no. jackson. >> so you should have tweeted at me. neil: and what did you discover? >> what i discovered was surprisingly andrew jackson was very short. that was very short. i wonder if maybe some of that came from his reference to andrew jackson. and some people on his staff said he was very interested in how jackson presented his material. and jackson was a true populous. he had also defeated the elites. he had overthrown the virginia, massachusetts action

that the monopolized the presidency. so jackson was also sending a message to his inaugural, your days are over. your history. write a memoir. that's what trump was saying. this is his day. and tomorrow's his day and the day after tomorrow. neil: you know, i'm wondering too the message he's sending to even fellow republicans because they were wincing a little bit, even in the last couple of weeks with this new 115th congress talking about your priorities, they seem a little upside down to me. your repeal of the health care law, it's okay, but you better have a replacement, rather. he was calling out audibles, like, during the week. >> yeah. and believe me. they're nervous. they're nervous because the only place 90% of them can be beaten is in a primary. now the primaries in many cases will be dominated by supporters of donald trump. if donald trump tweets out something about congressman x has not been helpful, bye-bye, congressman x. . neil: so do you think he'll do that? do you think he'll -- he's

done it already. yeah, you're right. >> we've watched it for two years. of course he'll do it. neil: so let me ask you how this town is going to get used to him. i think it's safe to say, love the obama's. maybe not just in the political approach but even in their style. i have not seen the same response reading the washington post of late to mr. trump. to president trump. >> that's absolutely true. but remember, in office, just as you got there by running against washington, you can continue to run against washington while you're in office if you're president. you know, it's only going to benefit him. because do you think the people in iowa and ohio and nebraska and wisconsin care what the people in washington think? no. they do not. that's why you and i live elsewhere. . neil: well, you know, you're not too far away from here. so let me ask you about -- >> two hours. neil: okay. that's a lot. maybe made a big deal about how this cabinet, which will be the richest cabinet ever

assembled, if approved, will get stuff done. when the rap against them is they're holding the banking industry. at least four of them have ties to goldman sachs. and that are they really the ones to go after the elite, if they even sell to the elite? >> well, first of all, people are going to care about what the president says. not what cabinet officers say. second, who are three most popular presidents of the 20th century? theodore roosevelt, franklin roosevelt, and john f kennedy. what do they all have in common? they were very, very wealthy. okay? and people don't care if you're producing. if you're actually producing for people. neil: i don't think the media cares if you're a rich democrat. they care if you're a rich republican. >> don't be partisan. this is a unifying day. neil: okay. you're right. i don't know what i was thinking. >> that's what i'm here for. neil: i know. i've got to think of that. all right. we're going to have more of the professor in a bit. in the meantime, connell mcshane and how -- hey, donald trump's relatively short

address is going down. i don't have it clocked as one of the shortest on record but someone was saying it is the fifth shortest on record. i don't know if that's reliable, so take me not at my word. but, connell, how was it received around the people you were with? >> well, 16: 40, neil, i think you're right. it was a short address. and there were some shorter than that. some in the 15-minute range, even president roosevelt back at five and a half minutes in 1945. we're at the national mall in washington with the capitol in the background and now most of the crowd that was here has filed out. but it is worth pointing out that in comparison to inaugurals past, the crowd was indeed smaller, as it was expected to be when you want to compare it to barack obama's first inauguration in 2009 or even the second one four years ago and that the crowd the first time around had not only come

up to where i was standing for president obama but past us and gone way back to the washington monument. nothing close to that today. however, the crowd that was here and come from all over the country to brave the elements, such as they are. not called weather but rain just as the new president was speaking during his inauguration. they saw what they should have expected to see. and as you guys were just talking about, this was a popular scene the inaugural address. the new president donald trump, and he has reiterated a lot of that on his own twitter account. the @realdonaldtrump twitter account moments after the speech put out passages from that speech or what is very close to passages from that speech, and they're all popular. they're all talking about doing things like taking power out of washington d.c. and returning it to the people. what truly matters is not which party controls our government but that our government is controlled by the people. that's what we heard at the campaign trail, and that's what we heard here at the inaugural address.

now, i will add, neil, as i go back to you across the action here will be shifting here from where i am close to the capitol, as we look at the new president once again that the luncheon that is underway. and shifting over in your direction, pennsylvania avenue to the white house, that in your reporting about the -- what they're serving at the inaugural luncheon, and i think -- i'm not sure about this. but you may have broken the story about the maine lobster and the grilled angus beef, and i admired your reporting. but i may point out you left one key detail. and that was the dessert. the chocolate su souffle was also being served. neil: i didn't point it out because i was after people's health. but you're skinny and fit. skinny guys never worry. i'm just telling you. looking for the wheat turn, and there was no. huge calorie meal.

don't wonder too far. we are getting reaction that the chinese prime minister was very, very impressed. one of the first to have a chance to meet with the president-elect in his new york office while he was in town. but the german vice chancellor not so impressed. remember, it was the vice chancellor who went after donald trump for criticizing in an interview with german newspaper group that donald trump was too interested in u.s. cars and faulting the germans for selling too many mercedes abroad. when the prime minister heard that he said maybe if you made better chevys, we would. and he went into a lot of curse words. and said high tones, furthermore the inauguration and the election of donald trump indicates a bad

radicalization going on in the united states. reaction to all of this with pat buchanan and of course this couple with protests we've seen in the nation's capitol, pat. there is some ill will. that's not unusual. but also with this particular annual nothing rated president, a great deal of controversy. what do you make of all of this? are you there? >> i'm here. i'm sorry. i didn't know that was sent to me. neil: yeah, well, when i say pat buchanan, that's you. i'm joking, pat. i'm joking. you're a busy guy. that's, neil. a,yeah, how are you doing? >> i'm sitting in my driveway in a mobile studio, but i did hear the speech, and i'm inclined to agree. very much speech rooted and it was remarkable. neil: now, german government,

at least seen through the eyes of the minister, they're not impressed. and then some of these groups in washington protesting not too far from us, they're not impressed. they think that he's going to radicalize things, that he's going to kick people out of the country. this is far from prevailing thought. i want to stress that. these demonstrations have been up until now fairly calm, uneventful. it's kind of revving up a little bit here, but what do you think of all of this? >> well, the demonstrations have been prepared. it was an us or them election. it was real clarity in this election between what trump represented and what was rejected of the obama administration. and if hillary clinton. so i understand that. look, there really is the so-called new-world order has passed on here. in europe, it's understandable why merkel in germany would be upset and the government over there because trump in effect

identified with these movements of national identity and nationalism over there, all of which are rising and are competitive. and in this great struggle, i think the coming struggle for western civilization, trump has identified with these new and rising forces and basically a rejection of the transnational liberalism that created a lot of the institutions like the european union and the wto and things like that. . neil: all right. now, some of these protests that are going on in the capitol not too far from where i sit talking to you, reporting right now that they've been hearing pressure grenades, protesters throwing rocks. so it has gotten a little messy. now, you of course the 1968 riots far, far worse than anything going on here. and i certainly want to stress nothing like that going on here. but there is anger here. >> well, there is. let me tell you in 1968, the

very first thing that the president of the united states richard nixon said to me going into the reviewing stand was buchanan, was that your throwing the eggs? his limousine had been hit with firecrackers, eggs, and debris as it crossed 12th street. of course that was the year of 1968 of assassinations and riots, the democratic convention, the murder of martin luther king, of bobby kennedy. it was a far more violent and divisive year than this one is this year. quite candidly, we got through this, fortunately, i think there were some disorders and some and demonstrations at many of the rallies and real division in the country. but it wasn't as violent of year as '68, the most divisive since the civil war. neil: and what's a little odd about the planned demonstrations now, pat, is that they're going to continue into the weekend there's going to be a million women march and others lik like it throughot

the weekend to protest this new administration coming in. that when you were there and with richard nixon in 1968 after his inauguration, there was a great deal of division in society and the vietnam war still raging. but can you see anything like that that just cast over what democrats and republicans tried to get done? >> well, i can. let me say for this reason. despite the fact that richard nixon was under attack and he and vice president when they related the country against the demonstrators, he went up to 70% and eventually nixon won a 49-state landslide. the country was divided then. but middle america was basically the majority behind nixon and against george montgomery, who was the candidate in the culture. it's much more evenly divided now. the cultural war.

you have states like california that went for reagan four times and nixon six times is now a democratic strong hold. i think the country is more polarized and divided now, neil. but it is not quite -- it is not -- excuse me, it is not as violent as it was in 1968, '69, and '70. you had routine bombings. up there villagebombings, they blew up the building up there in wisconsin on the university campus, and there was a tremendous amount of violence. the weathermen and all of that. we don't have that yet. but undeniably, we are deeply divided, probably more deeply divided than i think really because it's about culture and politics and ideology and history and holidays and everything. more divided as people than we really have been before in my lifetime. neil: you know, if you think about it, the message of donald trump seems to be in keeping with the message a lot of these young protesters might have. that is, the elite have failed you, and i won't fail you,

saying we are transferring power from washington d.c. and giving it back to you, the people. for too long, he said, a small group in our nation's capitol while the people do not share in its wealth. politicians prosper. the job left and the factories close. the establishment protected itself but not the citizens of our country. which seems to be the message of a lot of these protests. >> well, you know, exactly. trump -- the speech of trump's today was in defiance of an establishment which had been abandoned the people of the country, just let their factories be exported, their jobs lost, gang violence in the cities and all the rest of it while the elites were doing well, and he represents the folks out of power. there are some of the -- some of nixon in those days of course -- you mention andrew jackson earlier. that was it. it is we have been forgotten,

and we are -- we are coming to power now, and i am the political instrument of this particular movement. but you're right. in the 1960s, there's no doubt that on the left, say, at the chicago convention, the rioters in grand park, i was out there watching. the rioters were rioting against the democratic party establishment, which had controlled the country since jack kennedy took the oath of office. you know, both houses of congress and the presidency. this is new but there are aspects of it that are clearly if you will in a nonviolent sense revolutionary. this is a new movement in america. neil: i want to thank you very much. what you're watching is the dustup that has taken on some momentum of its own. on 13th and 12th streets northwest. so as the crow flies, a little more than two in other words of a mile. we're right in front of the white house where we are.

1,600 pennsylvania avenue where a parade is expected to start very shortly in honor of the 45th president of the united states. what we do have is word from the dc metro police chief peter that they've made about 90 arrests tied to these protests and riots going around the capitol. there have been three noted injuries. none life-threatening. but the chief is saying that he's pleased with the response thus far and hope people protest but do so with peaceful protesting in mind. obviously, not everyone is doing that or acting that way. but, again, this is calmer than it was a little more than a few minutes ago. we're monitoring it. i want to stress this is the typical behavior we've seen today, most even those opposed to donald trump have been saying that donald trump is the newly elected president of the united states. some of them don't like that he's the duly elected

president of the united states. but they're honoring that and recognizing that and the overwhelming majority peacefully protesting that. but as much as we see some of these world trade organizations protest, this is something that becomes a cause. and charlie gasparino joins me right now. and there are these things in the past where they're in seattle, foreign locale, but great tension; right? >> yeah. and the media -- the medium is the message in many ways marshall says there's a self-fulfilling prophecy of us showing it, people wanting to do it. so remember, the media does play a role. neil: we have to be aware of it here only because we can hear it. so that usually gets our attention. and then when they bring out the forces, they have to address it, it gets attention. it was not affected, by the way, i'm told the timing of the parade or the parade itself or those who will be involved we're told the presidential inauguration

parades will go, we're told this one will be shorter. 90 minutes tops. president obama was three and a half, four hours. kennedy three hours, nixon two and a half hours. so a timetable here, it would be among the shorter parades ever and maybe given what's going on here, probably a good thing. but, again, most what i saw, charlie, there was some that got a little bit off, but not all that awful. >> there were some broken windows as i was walking to the studio here. neil: maybe that's reaction to you. >> windows break when i walk by. neil: of course. >> it's interesting. i went to one of the dinners last night. the candle light dinner where president trump was at, most of his cabinet was there, and most of the people around him. you're going to get stuff like this because the transfer of power from obama -- obama's clan that was around him, the people that surrounded him, to the people that are surrounding trump. it's pretty stark. i mean, you really do have

a -- i know donald -- president trump just gave a speech that sounded like there are parts of that speech that sounded like bernie sanders could have given it on protection issues. neil: it was too protectionist. too territorial? >> yeah. but i tell you the people surrounding trump for better or worse are capitalist republicans. and, you know, it is a stark contrast when you're in one of those dinners. it's more you get to talk to people and what they want to do with the country. and i didn't hear much about protectionism. maybe, you know, he's the president. he calls the shots. but the people in those -- in that dinner last night, it was paul ryan or steve mnuchin, and they're talking about tax cuts, they're talking about freeing up the capitalist system, they're talking about something different than i heard in that speech today. it was quite a contrast to what the economic policies of his rank and file.

i guess the bureaucracy that's going to run government. what they're talking about and what donald trump said in the speech today. so, you know, it's confusing. i don't know what's going to happen. and i think the markets are reflecting all of that confusion. neil: you know, the markets had run-up very far, very fast post the election and obviously some get back in order. but like you said, be careful what you wish. and i get it because part of that package, you like. the tax cuts, the lower regulations is also the guy talking about tariffs on countries and punishing multinationals that hire too many abroad. that's the flip side of it. >> yeah. the notion of these huge -- these huge trinationalist organizations that take away power from the people. the eu took away power from the average brit. took away power from the average person in france, and that's why you have a reaction to that. those aren't good things. it's one thing to say we're going to restore power back to the people. it's another thing to say, listen, we're going to, you

know, wall off our country and not do business anywhere in the world, or we're going to engage in a trade war with china. and i think the markets are trying to figure that out right now. investors are trying to figure that out. and when we say the markets, let's be real clear for the average viewers. i'm not saying we should just bow to a stock going up or down, markets are sophisticated investments betting about the future economy. whether you're going to work or not. whether you're going to make more money. and some of this protection stuff, they clearly don't like. but i will tell you this, neil. maybe it's just speaking loud and proud and scaring the crap out of the world, and he's going to be a different person. because his bureaucracy, the people who are running things, they are not protectionist. these are free-market guys. and women. neil: and they don't like it. and these in particular are protesters don't like it either. this all started about -- we picked up about 25 minutes ago these are protesters who gathered outside the trump

international hotel. two-thirds of a mile up here and then proceeded up the street. not too far where we are but this area is locked as tight as a drum. but we should stress a lot of the people who are protesting are protesting globalization and how they've been at the shortened of that. many have been arguing as well as, once the protest began that donald trump would separate the world into racist and creed and kick muslims out and be bad for the african-american community and on and on and on. and this is sort of conflated into a cause that goes -- it would look like well beyond donald trump. >> and i should point out for all their talk about the african-american community, listen, i haven't seen all the protests. i've seen very few african-americans out there. these are anarchist white people out there. this is a movement that has

been going on for a while. this is -- we saw it in seattle years ago. we saw it in new york city at wall street. this is a very, very organized. left this movement in this country. i don't believe in total numbers, a lot of them. but they do know how to cause havoc, and they're funded by -- listen, i don't know who they're funded by. there's also rumored that they're funded by people like george soros. occupy wall street was occupied by the teacher association. so there is union involvement in this anarchist movement, which i think is really bad. i don't know why they're trying to delegitimatize. neil: one thing that i found interesting early on is george soros, who has shown support for protests like these in the past, one of the things i've heard him say today is that teresa, the british prime minister won't last. he went on to say donald trump, he's a would-be dictator.

now, soros has been very quickly of trump and said that he sold the election and all of that. but one thing soros and his sympathies for the popular-type protest. believe me, i'm not saying any of this. about her has very critical of donald trump saying that he will divide us. and using donald trump as sort of like a galvanizing tool when i don't think there's much there to indicate that he's going to be a dictator. >> right. neil: but, again, it unites many. >> right. listen, we don't know if he supports them. it's always been that out there. i should correct myself. the new york city teachers union. neil: well, he did say i hear their pain. >> yeah. and the money and the sort of aided shelter for occupied wall street was given by the new york city teacher unions. i did some reporting on this. but, you know, let's not be clear here. this is an anarchist movement, and it's wel believe it's well funded. they turn out in mass whenever they want.

they do this all the time and, you know, here's the thing. donald trump won. and i hate to break this to george soros. learn a little bit about the constitution. if donald trump in his deepest, darkest heart wants to become a dictator, there's something called -- which i don't believe is the case, by the way. there's something called the u.s. constitution which puts about 20 breaks on him before he gets to anywhere near a dictator status. that's the beauty of our country. you're going to hear a lot about liberals embracing the u.s. constitution, the separation of powers, the fact that the executive branch is now finally checked by congress, even though they didn't care about it when the executive branch was going crazy with president obama was president. you're going to hear about that now. george soros might sound a little bit like anthony scalia by the time this four years is over. they will find appreciation in the constitution. because there's even if he wanted to, donald trump can't. and believe me, i don't believe he wants to.

neil: we are monitoring this here. and just to bring you up to speed what you're watching as charlie and i are chatting here, this is a localized event, again, now the 13th and 14th street area here in this city. and it was starting at the international hotel to protest his inauguration. but more on the views of working with the local community and setting up racial. so the chaos really began to erupt when rocks were thrown, police in riot gear assembled ran in. at this point we're at 90 arrested and now that the police are outfitted in much heavier riot gear. they have a no nonsense approach to this. one of the things that they are dealing with is trying to keep the peace because this is inauguration day here, and they do plan a parade. and of course donald trump after that lunch on capitol hill, which is about wrapping

up, he drives back. not through this, i might point out. but not too far from this, either. so, you know, you have to think, charlie, when he's doing that, of course it's a ride back from pennsylvania avenue to where we're sitting behind us the white house and the parade reviewing stand. and that's typically an area filled with people wanting to see the annual nothin president. and they're not going to get anywhere close to where he's going to be, but they're already close to where he's going to be. >> yeah. this has the potential to be kind of crazy. i will say this, though. the police seem pretty aggressive. neil: very. >> they are locked and loaded. they are ready to make this happen and occur in the most peaceful way without incident. . neil: and that's with, again, the chief indicated peter said

that they were prepared for these but will not tolerate unlawful disruptions. some started throwing things and then all bets were off. again, -- for the most part -- and, again, there are a lot of protesters scattered around the city. i saw some very, very early this morning that were minor, where protesters gather, i should say. no incident, no problem, nothing to take note of. this just escalated. and whether it turns out to be appointment, wt o-type protest we've seen around the globe, and this becomes the cause as any one's guess. but it is just a little ruckus. and this as the crow flies will be less than about a quarter of a mile from the parade route where donald trump will be coming with his wife and family as they make their way to the reviewing stand here.

and a ritual we like. as democrats and republicans, this could make -- >> it's a celebration of our country and the left doesn't want it. listen, the far right doesn't like it either. i will say one thing. i don't know i have mixed feelings on it. but one of the high points clearly talked about ending racial -- neil: saying we're not in private and what he has tone in public will tell you this is not a guy that wants to divide by race. he ran a rough campaign, immigration was clearly on top of his list and he said things that i didn't like about mexicans, i will grant you that.

in his heart of heart and in his actions, in that speech he's much more of a unifier, i mean, he is a unifier. neil: well, it is. a lot of the protestors do not seem as unifier. one story that's running on washington post online that a number of the protesters are wearing shirts with the word resist. we the people when donald trump took oath of office, usa, usa, one woman said, we are for an america for all of us. someone in the crowd began with chants, no, no, good-bye, referring to donald trump which was still on big monitors giving inaugural address. that's when the protestors arrived at the franklin square area, started clashing and started throwing rocks and anything they could to divert attention.

this is happening as well as along not too far from the parade route. an officer was slightly injured when struck by an object not too far away, that's where a lot of the big influences known, money interest and try to get their word across on capitol hill. objects thrown along there. the only one injury reported there. another biker was knocked off his bicycle but turns out that was a protestor on the bike. he and the bike were dragged in and on it goes. >> isn't there an irony about donald trump being fascist while they are burning stuff. who did that the last time we remember? nazi germany. neil: can we hear anything? no, we cannot.

we will be monitoring it, you guys. the police are trying to contain themselves because they are very well aware that there is an inauguration going on. hundreds of thousands to watch something that's in americana here, whether you like this stuff or don't like this stuff, the police, security forces want to make sure they're free to do that because the people are free to protest, of course, but those folks are free to go to inauguration, the kind of stuff that they want. one of the things i'm also trying to get a guadalajara on -- gauge is if the crowd advances beyond this area. you have to wonder about that. who do we have with us? all right.

former nypd police expert, security expert. pat, how do you contain a crowd like this, a couple of blocks away from the inaugural parade route? >> well, it starts with the proactive enforcement which is washington, d.c. police are using now. they are using tear gas and making arrests as well as they should because two police officers injured already and numerous act of vandalism and alluding and it's the time story time and again and it's ironic because trump is fascist and they are burning down their own property. very sad. neil: charlie gasparino raised that point. it's only a couple of blocks

away from the parade route and obviously when you hear this go off, people hear them as well. out of your screen the capital here you pretty soon donald trump will be departing and a drive down to pennsylvania avenue to the other, the white house which will be his new home and we are told that he will drive that route or he will be in the car in that route but a number of presidents in the past have gotten out of their vehicles and just to get out and see the people. of course, jimmy carter 40 years ago this day walked the entire route, that's not an option, i think i can safe i will say today, at least the entire route. a big picture frame of where that is and where the parade crowd will be, you will have to mark my words that it is not too far from the parade route and they want to make sure it stays away from the actual route itself. how do you control that?

what do you do? >> begins, niel, by making arrest and sending a message that's it's not going to be overlooked, it's not going to be regarded as it has been in prior administration, as an act of civil disobedience. serious felonies, arson, destruction of property, coordinated attempt to disrupt ceremony and prevent spect at a ators. the washington, d.c. police, niel, will make the arrest, they'll use pepper spray and other tools to disperse the crowds. neil: yeah, this is very unusual. a small percentage of the protestors, most have been quiet and uneventful but if you were advising the trump folks and the new president and the detail

around them, normally the new president drives from one end to pennsylvania avenue to the other, do you think you risk anything getting out of the vehicle even momentarily. >> i think a hundred percent. i was involved in that detail, i would advise president trump not to get out of the vehicle like jimmy carter or not even get out for one minute. a lot of the individuals as you well know, niel, really upset taking over presidency. it goes far beyond the pail. we haven't seen this type of vitriol and overwhelming hatred of the president in a long, long time. this is serious stuff. and this is a serious felony. these are deliberate flagrant felony violation. you light up a building, it's arson. these individuals should be

arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. neil: we always talk about, charlie gaparino were talking about this, it could be a world-trade organization, summit, you know, the kind of event that obviously gets much of the world's attention as it is and the protestors will seize on it. the protestors making their case against and in this case donald trump? >> niel, if the police are highly skilled and very knowledgeable about how to civil disobedience and they can identify willful activity, they know how to separate them out and it start with handcuffs, niel.

that's the only way it's going to send the message. fire spread and as a result of fire spreading, people stop breathing, this is no joke. if i was trump and advising him, president trump, i would advise him to stay in the vehicle and off that route. neil: all right, thank you very much. transition team member. you're obviously aware of what's going on and well, not immediately on the parade route, it isn't too far and you just heard what pat was saying, security expert that he would feel better if mr. and mrs. trump stayed in the car and didn't get out. do you know what donald trump wants to do? do you know whether the president has made any changes and plans as a result --

>> that's a decision being made above my pay rate, i am fully confident that those who understand the importance of ceremony and want to provide americans the opportunity to celebrate american exceptionalism and the peaceful transfer of power will make a decision that's in the interest of public safety and the safety of our -- of our president. you and charry and pat have gotten it right. what we are witnessing now is this lawlessness, criminal activity. this is not civil disobedience, this is activity by some paid anarchist and some other volunteer crazy anarchist, but this is not, this is not within the compounds of acceptable disobedience and a direct attack on what has made us an exceptional nation. donald trump understood that by

listening to people and giving the fact that he got 306 electoral college votes, that he actually comes to washington to disrupt the status quo, but the difference is he comes to do it in a lawful manner, he is not embracing the status quo, he is telling people as he did in his visionary words today, i heard you and i'm going to act and all of my strength on making sure that we change the status quo, which includes a drop in household incomes, which includes a drop in the labor participation in our country, something that we haven't realized in decades. he's basically saying, we are going to protect our borders as nation state in a reasonable and rational world would do and so he won an election in a flying fashion and what he said today was that those people who have

been working for five months as part of my transition team, they have put together a game plan that will allow us to usher in meaningful and substantial change, we are not tinkering at the edges. we gave him a play book that was inspired by his vision and commitment to the american people but, he, in fact, he's the quarterback that can call the audible. it can be a constant roll of meaningful change that will culminate in a substantial change in direction in our economy, in economic growth and job creation and putting americans back to work. neil: if you can just stay there. i want to bring people up to speed. these protests continue that, you know, they're not too far from the parade route that's minutes away from kicking off, that you know, what exactly

president and mrs. trump are doing right now, that we don't know for sure. we do know that there was to be a review of the troops with major general becker on the east front of the capitol. i don't know the status. at that point they were going to move into the vehicles which will be part of the inaugural parade down pennsylvania avenue. in other words, if you look at pennsylvania avenue it's just about a 2-mile long strip that will connect the capitol there on one end and the white house on the other. i stress here that that is not in the way of where these protests are going on. if you go to the sort of right of your screen is where some of the protests are going on and they started about two blocks to the left of your screen on the left. so again, it gives you an idea where this started, not too far from the capitol. this is the inaugural parade

route that will end up, well, charlie and gasparino are seated right now, the white house, of course. you are looking at the north side and, of course, reviewing stand behind. if we could break away where charlie gasparino and i are, things are still overwhelmingly by in large peaceful where charlie are right in front of the white house and, of course, reviewing stance which block it is white house, which is blocked by this parade review, this comes down and goes up every four years, it was up and then comes down every four years but that, behind there donald trump will be reviewing what is about a 90-minute parade and no indications are that he's not going to do that and no indications that this parade is going to be delayed or stop nor should it be. >> i wouldn't be surprised knowing donald that he gets out of the car. neil: right.

>> screw you, i'm the president and i'm going to take a chance for the american people. we should point out that there's been a lot of column inches devoted to the alt-right, the alt-right says a lot of stuff mainly on social media, but i don't see them doing violence like what's going on now from the radical left and it's about time that the mainstream media start, you know, investigating this radical left of our country who are willing to take a day, which is about unity, which both republicans and democrats, liberals and conservatives agree on and basically turn it into a fascist demonstration, they are burping stuff to attack a dually elected president that's bound by constitutional powers. there's no better system in the world but the lunatics want to disturb it. neil: no, you're right. to the left you're looking at

the capitol where the newly inaugurated president and wife and family are, they leave that capitol, they come to the other end, they move 7 -- not even 7 miles. much slower than that. and then they proceed along pennsylvania avenue and then to the other and here at the white house, so where they get set in reviewing and watch a parade. a 90-minute one. much of the violence right now is 12th street, that would be about four or five blocks south of where i'm sitting, southwest of where we are sitting. not all that far and what the police are trying to do -- who is with us, guy? dan, i forgot. dan, former secret service agent.

i hear you. i'm hearing voices in my head, folks, and that's always dangerous. you protected the very latest barack obama, you know what this -- like the back of your hand. how do you contain this so that the first family is protected, that everyone along the parade route is protected and that he can go ahead and proceed here to watch a parade in his honor? >> it's a good question, niel, it's a really delicate balance right now because it's viewers all know it is your constitutional right to protest. you can scream and yell whatever you want as long as you don't verbalize a threat. doubling down on making this difficult for the secret service is for obvious reasons, you're not allow to segregate protestors in the general public, wherever the general public can go, legal constitutionally abiding protestor can go.

i wish there were an easy answer, but there's not. neil: when you know a lot of the activity has occurred depending on where along the route you are, three blocks or so from where the parade is happening, how do you advise what's done next, give me your insight? >> yeah, what you don't want to do niel, you want to triage your problem. that may make for really loud flaming pile of garbage and may look intimidating, the secret service tries not to get too excited about these things or anybody else involved in the operation. you don't want to flood the zone with 50 or 60 cops and then all of a sudden god forbid you see some kind of gas attack or

assault in parade route. you want to monitor it and keep police officers there and key that you don't overreact. these can be destruction. i know that sounds like hollywood-movie type. that's what they are concerned right now. don't overreact. neil: all right, i don't know if any of this permeated inside the capitol right where they are having inaugural luncheon, nancy pelosi is addressing members and other leaders, let's listen in. >> house republican leader mr. mccarthy, yes n this room this was the original chamber, lincoln sat there and here we are gathered today in the old house chamber where lincoln heard the same clock. mr. president, right above the

door, for almost two centuries, cleo and the clock have reminded the men and women that we are part of history, that our words and actions will face the judgment of history and that we are part of the long and honorable heritage of our democracy. that is cleo's advice, we come to the sacred inauguration day, united, respect for our democracy and determine today make a difference in the lives of hard-working americans. i have the privilege of presenting a flag to vice president of the united states mike pence. one of the house of representatives owned, right, mr. speaker. [laughter] [applause] >> we know that vice president pence is strengthened by family and foundation of experience he built here in these halls. i told him, mr. president, he knows the territory, he knows the territory.

it is now my honor to present one of the flag that is flew above the capitol today to the vice president of the united states mike pence. we pray for you, for your beloved wife karen, michael, charlotte and audrey, all of your family, god bless you, mr. vice president and remembering that this flag that we pledge to for liberty and justice for all is our calling and for it to working with you. now it's my honor to present you with this flag. [applause] neil: this is part of the -- flag presentations, art work gifts, a number of gift that is barack obama joked years ago that if he knew he was going to receive so many gifts he would

have brought a wheel barrel. it's hrd to say whether any of the folks know what's going on outside the capitol here. fact that they are continuing with it, i think that's a good idea. so let's listen into that. >> we watch our older daughter jessica marry the boy of her dreams, we are so happy. that's when i learned though it's nothing official until there's a photo of it, so mr. president, now it's official, i present to you the photograph of your inauguration. [applause]

neil: i don't know. they've never been able to get something done that quickly. again, a picture of donald trump's inauguration, a little more than two hours ago. let's continue listening in as this bipartisan continues. how long it lasts, anyone's guess. let's go back there. >> this is the eighth inauguration where the lenux company has made a special presentation of a gift made uniquely for each of you and uniquely for this event. this year the company proposed and the committee determine that had the bowl they had in mind was something that you would value for a long time. the one that the president has and the first lady has is an the white house looking directly across the jefferson memorial and the one that -- the pences will be presented with and have

at their home would be the capitol looking down at the lincoln memorial. the artist who was with us the other day talked about capturing the city as well as how the city came together, timothy carter was the designer, the glass master peter made these. they also have a compass in the bottom of them and remembering mr. president, the vice president already knows that the center of washington is not at the white house but it's actually right here in the center of the capitol building. the city is then layed out northwest, northeast, southwest, southeast from that place. the other -- the other unique thing, the other unique thing for the first lady and her

parents that would never have been such an important thing before the glass came from slovania. [applause] >> the designer thought that the best glass in the world for this particular design which he began to work on last summer was glass from slovania. maybe he knew something that none of us quite know at the time. now i would like to have the toast to the vice president and the president and the speaker and i both served with mike pence so it was a challenge for me to give up this moment, but mike pence, the man of the house, the speaker of the house will bring that toast and then the majority leader will come and toast to the president and, mr. president, if you have anything to say at the end of those remarks, i would also like

to say so i don't forget to do it, thanks so much to the staff that made all of this effort happen today. [applause] >> stacy, staff director of rules committee, staff director for the joint committee on the inauguration, maria who came on board to do this, her last event was the pope's visit so that just got her ready, mr. president, for your visit, the great work of the capitol police, the sergeant at arms of the house and the senate, the cooperative effort of the dc police, our goal today was for this event to be an event where people came and when they left the event outside that they felt like they had all the freedom that you could possibly have and still have all of the security you needed. i hope people left a feeling that way and if they did it was the great work of so many people, mr. speaker.

[applause] >> thank you, roy. this is a great honor and privilege to toast my dear friend and former colleague, vice president mike pence. [cheers and applause] >> i just really enjoy saying that. i think about the times that we've walked back and forth just down this hall on the way to a vote, but if memory serves, more often than not we walked that way because we were being hauled into the speaker's office for being admonished for being rebel rogers in the study. we had so many great memories here. i know this job makes you an officer of the senate but you mike pence will always be a part of the people's house. [applause]

>> we talk about our two bodies quite a bit and if i had to use a sports analogy, they play rugby and we play golf. just saying. [laughter] >> i'm reminded of something, though, that's pretty profound that makes me think of mike pence. a reminder of the words of mike's favorite author mark helprin, as long as you have life and breath, believe. as long as you have life and breath believe. ladies and gentlemen, there was no one that i have served with who brings more belief to his work than mike pence. no one believes more deeply in our country and people, no one believes more deeply in capacity to do great things. he is a happy warrior.

the president could not have chosen a better partner for this work than mike pence. so mr. president, mr. vice president, we raise our glasses to you, to karen and to your beautiful family, may you have every blessing and success as the 48th vice president of the united states of america. >> well, the theme of today's inauguration is uniquely america. there are some words that come to mind when you hear that phrase, big, bold, energetic,

enterprising and resilient, always looking to the next horizon, sure sounds like our country and it sure sounds like donald trump. [applause] >> our president has surmounted formeddable challenges, getting to this moment, he's been underestimated often but he never let it stop him from succeeding. we are wishing him similar success as he turns to the charge of governing. we face many challenges but we have been challenged before and we live in changing times, yes, but some things endure and we

celebrate one of them today. this inauguration is a reminder of our common story as americans and on this most uniquely american of occasions, i ask you to stand and join me in raising a glass, mr. president, may you find every success in the years ahead, may unit our country behind a common vision and renew the promise that makes our country so great. here, here. >> mr. president.

>> thank you very much, mitch and paul our great vice president. i don't think anybody wants to hear me speak anymore today, right, so we will cut it short. we have so many of cabinet members here. i see generals, general that is are going to keep us safe, theyf problems on the other side and they are going to look at a couple of these, casting of doing a movie, i pick you general, general mattis who is doing well, even chuck likes general mattis and general kelly and we had an interesting talk. kiddingly he thinks we are doing great at the cabinet level but we are going to do just fine. [laughter] >> we are going to do just fine. you know, i will tell you, there's something that i wanted to say because i was very honored, very honored when i heard that president bill clinton and secretary hillary

clinton was coming today and i think it's appropriate to say and i would like you to stand up. i would like you to stand up. [applause] >> and honestly there's nothing more i can say because i have a a lot of respect for those two people. we are going to have four good years hopefully peace and prosperity. our cabinets are lined up and ready, i know eventually chuck is going to approve them, i'm sure. i really believe that and we are all dealing together, we all want the same thing and we are all good people and whether

you're a republican or democrat, doesn't make a difference, we are going to get along. again, thank you very much, it's an honor and, roy, you have done a spectacular job, you and tom and i want to thank you and your wife. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, everybody, thank you, thank you very much. neil: all right, you might notice a moment to recognize bill and hillary clinton, particularly hillary clinton, in the class for being there on the inaugural luncheon that wrapped up. you might have known a few zingers the president threw chuck schumer's way, only two trump nominees or cabinet positions will be approved by the time he is back in the white

house here, a little more than a few hours from now. more problematic has been represented mike pompeo, the cia director. that apparently is going to take a bit more debate and a bit more time and that some democrats have said that no cia director in history has ever been confirmed on inauguration day anyway so it's not a big deal. having said that, key foreign policy positions will be in place and one of the pieces of paper that you might have seen at ceremony prior being signed, a series of papers signed by president trump, paper that would allow security team to take hold and to take office. let's listen to this moment of prayer. >> for those who work hard to prepare and deliver it to us. may we be always grateful for the kindnesses we receive.

we thank you as well for the celebration of this day when our nation once again models for the world, the greatness of peaceful transition of power. we ask a special blessing upon our new president donald trump. give him an understanding heart to discern between good and evil, may he be strengthened in his work and grow in understanding as he proves ever attentive to the american people. we pray that he might become his best self. bless as well as those in place to exercise power in our nation, save them from seeking those things as chewed by soloman, long, life, riches for self and life of enemies and impel them

to keep so to understand justice. lord, may the people of this nation stand with our president and all our leaders to face any challenge, learn how to accept every success and every failure with grace and support our president and leaders with encouragement and prayer. now, as we move forward this day and through all days, may all that is done be for your grater honor and glory, amen. >> ladies and gentlemen, please remain at your seats as president trump, vice president pence, the joint congressional committee on inaugural ceremonies and the official party depart, national statuary hall. neil: all right, we will be monitoring this right now.

they seem to be running my math 20 to 25 minutes behind schedule. i don't think it has anything to do with outside protests and events here but a lot of politicians crowded in a single room and limited to about seven minutes each to speak and that's what happens. but doris, obviously the next thing we wait for after they leave the room is the formal parade to begin. there have been some protests outside but inside that room it was all nice and obviously a gesture on mr. trump's part, the president to the woman he defeated, hillary clinton, there are many moments like those at these types of events, what do you think of all that? >> a heartening moment to see the republicans and democrats together to know they're in statuary hall, talk about hillary lincoln and what went before and see the graciousness

with which he talked about hillary and bill clinton and in some ways he did that on election night as well. it was a real classy graciousness and i was hoping today in addition to fighting for the people and represented his supporters incredibly well, better than he did on the campaign, he wasn't talking about i, he was talking about we as part of a movement. he only used i when he said i will fight for you in every breath. the other tone could have been what he did on election eve where he talked about his opponent and he did it here at this lunch, i wish he had done nit the speech itself because more people would have been able to hear that. neil: now in the speech, a lot of people -- he campaigned as i was saying earlier on this broadcast and he gave a speech as such but he put the word out and the markets, some of them were the protection spent, the american worker, you, he was

speaking to the base, but does that worry you? >> well, i think the most important thing that has to be concerning is that when -- that's why again seeing them at this lunch makes it feel better at this point. human relations may be able to develop. i remember when eisenhower -- i don't remember, i remember hearing about it. ceo's have a better chance of giving orders to people, they can fire people, they can provide bonuses but he needs that congress, he needs that political class that he claims was responsible for what was happening to the problems of america and not dealing with them. that tone, i think, he's going to have to soften or get characters to go along with them. >> we are looking at the woman he defeated, hillary clinton,

the popular vote winner, a lot of supporters like to point out. what do you see for her? what does the future look like for her? >> you know, it's so impossible to imagine, somebody was saying today, i heard earlier, is she over the hurt, you never get over the hurt. one of the presidential candidates who lost someone else asked him, how long did it take you to get over, tell me, it's not over yet. it's a huge loss obviously and the question is does she mobilize her energies and talk about her running for something else or does she go into private life and i think it's just going to take a while for her to absorb that. you can imagine sitting there today, that's why again this is such a great moment, peaceful transitions of power, we can't take it for granted. she thought she would have been there, she's sitting there because she should be there as the other presidents are. that's what america has to remember. it's a great time of renewal and continuity at the same time. neil: i'm probably getting the

words wrong but i got the jest of the remarks when barack obama had inaugural luncheon, those were the days when we could talk and have fun together and share great stories and whether it was his fault or the other side's fault or a little bit of both, you never quite match that same commodore but do you think that they'll be spill-over, this was a particularly nasty fight, what do you think? >> i think it's going to be very important for president trump to be able to bring those congressmen to the white house, use the white house as the people's house just like lyndon johnson did, they would be there for breakfast and lunch and sometimes i wish the congressmen themselves would spend more time with each other in an informal time like this. they use today play pocker together and didn't have to run home for the weekend.

neil: unfortunately donald trump doesn't drink. that could be a problem. >> he can have cranberry juice. neil: i think it looks like we will have two cabinet appointees approved by when the president sits down in the white house for his first formal meeting. is that more or less what we see typically president going into office, what? >> well, i think it's maybe a little bit less than we think but i don't think it's a huge problem. i think he knows who they are, the chances are in a republican majority and the senate that they will get approved the bureaucracy is waiting there, whether it's the bureaucracy they want or not. neil: indeed. >> i think we can't rush everything like this and it's not as if the country is going -- well, you can never tell, at least the foreign policy people are there and that's really important.

that's where something could happen. neil: right, you need that right away. general mattis three years out of serving to be in this post to take over defense department. i would be remiss if i didn't mention protests going on in washington. it got pretty nasty for a while. it has since calmed down. they're not too far the parade route and it's not going to affect the parade or, for example, you know, the trump, the trump family from the capital to the white house, no one is rerouteing this, no one is making any other changes and plans, i talk today secret service folks, former secret service folks who don't think it's a good idea that the couple get out of the car. i guess what i'm asking you is, when we've had disruptions, of course, you know most famously,

abraham lincoln when states were leaving the union as he was taking over, how was that sort of thing handled? >> i think the important thing is i hope he would be able to get out of the car because it's an important moment that the two people are seeing them walking down on the street. that's become a tradition since carter. the question about the protestors is if there's something protesting -- i think the women's march is tomorrow. neil: right. >> planned parenthood. you've got a goal. they finally got their goal reached. women got the right to vote, antiwar protestors at nixon's inauguration and they were fighting for something. random protest against a person means less than having something that you're really fighting for and keeps the goals going forward.

neil: again, we are knowing nothing is going to be disrupted outside the fact that it's running behind schedule but that, i guess, isn't a shock either. was carter's 40 years ago, i can't believe that, was that the first where the president walked th entire route? >> i think it was. old jefferson walked from the boarding house to the capital so that was probably his protest in a way against the presidency becoming too much like a kingship so he decided to walk, but then getting out and walking that distance, carter did that and once somebody does it, it almost becomes a tradition and everybody else feels they should follow it and it's a good tradition if it can be met. neil: they don't walk the whole thing. >> they can walk a block. just the idea that they are out there for a certain period and the cameras can capture them. and that's what they did. neil: all right, now, much of

the pump and ceremony and just seeing events like this when you enter the president elect and you leave the most powerful person on the planet, you know, donald trump has had the most incredible journey here and one that you saw coming when he announced 18 months ago, he likes apparently andrew jackson biographies, he relates to him in a very way, very populist, in your face. the only thing that i found perplexing is that donald trump is a billionaire, he is an elite. that would have been like me doing fitness regiment classes at bally's. it worked and effective for him,

how will he be governing that way? >> the people who supported him felt he was on the side and that's what you want from a leader and that group of people but that's not the whole country so i think the importance of governing is he's going to have to use empathy and reach out to them as well not just on policy basis but human basis. that's what a leader has to do. teddy roosevelt square deal, he was fighting a spirit as is donald trump and is andrew jackson but he had a square deal which was for the wage worker and the capitalist and the rich and the poor and he was worried about class division. i think it's really important for president trump to somehow reach out and do what he wants to do for the people who have been feeling left behind but make it part of the country as a whole. neil: doris, i know you have to go, a republican shared this with me saying that donald trump will have more problems potentially with republicans,

with the establishment within his own party than he will with democrats and he was referring specifically to dealing with mitch mcconnell who is not to keen on that infrastructure plan that the president is keen on and a number of others who aren't too keen on a very huge tax cut given the nation's deficit and piling debt. what do you make of that? >> well, i think it's critical for president trump to focus on the economy, that's what won him the election, that's his major message and he's really going to have to use persuasion and power on the infrastructure and tax cut. neil: absolutely. >> as soon as he did that i thought, he's thinking about the future. i heard mitch mcconnell say earlier that he wasn't such a big fan of the infrastructure thing. hopefully he will be made a fan if president trump can do.

neil: only you can cynically tie those two together. >> you never thought of that. neil: no, i most certainly did. a real honor on this historic day of the nation's greatest historian. thank you, great seeing you. i was mentioning the deficit and the debt, david walker, you've heard some of the big plans that president trump has and the big tax cuts and the big infrastructure, what do you think?act of the matter is he ran on growth and jobs and so therefore i think we need comprehensive tax reform, progrowth, simplifying. we need a major infrastructure. our infrastructure is the 28th in the world which used to be one of the leading countries and we need to deregulate in order to be able to provide breathing

room. >> by the way on the infrastructure, a vast majority of the money is not going to be public sector money. a vast is private sector money. tax credits, you might see loan guaranties, private capital. neil: tax forgiveness for money held abroad, right? >> we need comprehensive tax reform so we are not doing the temporary repatriation deals. the problem is that those aren't sustainable over time. we want to be able to make this an attractive place to invest and be able to build and be able to grow jobs. now, what i am concerned about is that 70% of the budget is on auto pilot and ultimately while we need to be able to grow the economy, we have to be able to look at the welfare state and i think he's going to try to return more power to the states to block grants, we need reform social security, medicare and medicaid. they are going to run out of

money. neil: almost every president comes in with the circumstances of this first day has goals to do just what you're talking about, maybe some more than others, but to get a control over this, the washington spending, and they never do, even under ronald reagan the government grew. the government who wasn't the solution of the problem, was the problem. even under him we got something bigger. >> we got something for it. we bankrupted the soviet union. we won the cold war and after that, we were able to declare peace dividend. neil: goals are big on days like this. we are now 20 times the amount, 20 trillion. >> 20 trillion within 30 days. here is the key. what we need to focus on is not

annual deficits, we need to have a comprehensive and integrated plan to get down to 60%. we can have progrowth policies but we have to be able to transform government and we've got to be able to get control of the 70% of mandatory spending. it can be done, and i believe that donald trump will use the bully puppet and get the deals done. neil: if you don't go along with him, he can tweet something nasty about you and that might sort of work? >> i don't think he's going to get off of a twitter. he's going to have two twitter now, president of the united states and the real donald trump. neil: how do you think he will do, david? you studied presidents closely of all types of all parties, you know what got him here. his old approach something we

have never seen. how do you think he will govern? >> the first thing is he's going to issue a number of executive orders this afternoon. he's going to look quickly to look at some of the last-minute regulations that came out and try to provide regulatory relief. he is going to try to govern like reagan. he will use the power of the presidencies and go straight to the people, try to get the people to put pressure on congress to do the right thing and he's going to cut deals and, you know what, that makes the far left or the far right nervous. neil: you're right about that. thank you very much. >> always a pleasure, niel. neil: great service to this country. outside the capitol. you will see the trump family and then the pence family, they'll be a military review, a very brief military review because they are running significantly behind schedule, at least half an hour or maybe more. they might tighten things up but the parade is scheduled to go on and it starts at the capitol and

goes to the other end of pennsylvania avenue, the white house, outside which i am now sitting with my frozen crew, we are all getting a little cold right now. that's coming shortly. we are told that the protests, they are still going on. it's out there. a lot of the heat has been taken off and the nastiness has eased up a little bit but they are not going to affect the parade route or what they are planning to do. again, the only thing that would be in question, dan, former secret service agent was saying, he wouldn't have the first couple get out of the car, they would describe from one end to another, only jimmy carter who started this 40 years ago today at his inauguration walked the entire route. other presidents have gotten out for a little while and, of course, the obamas did the same twice on the first inauguration

that drew the largest crowd, almost 2 million and did so again, walked part of the route again but no president since jimmy carter has walked the entire route since. no indication as to what donald trump is planning or whether there's redone things or rethought things. obviously everyone in his group has been appraised of the protests going on. blake berman at the white house, not too far from me. what the parade looks like because that's not been affected by any of this, right, blake? blake: not, not affected at all, niel. this is where everything is going to end in the next couple of hours. the parade route ends to the north here of the north lawn. there's heavy, heavy security as you might imagine when we got here at 4:00 something in the morning. it was tight and been so ever since. we haven't seen or heard the protestors here. the rioters and that's certainly a good thing because the president is going to be here and this is where everything ends, niel. we are here at the white house

starting to get a sense and a feel of how things are turning over. i will give you one quick story over at the press briefing room a little while ago i heard a loud noise and popped my head to see what was going on and i realized that it was the housekeeping crew cleaning the carpets and made a whole lot of sense because here in the west wing there really is nobody here, lit toll no one as the obama administration officials left and trump administration officials to come in so good time to clean the carpets. that's exactly what they were doing. we have been keeping an eye here for top officials to roll in. we expect to happen in the upcoming hours. you were talking about to see what executive actions the president might roll out in the first initial hours of his presidency here, niel. neil: all right, blake, thank you very much. a lot of people fanning out of the inaugural luncheon right now to get this parade started. you heard a lot about the

protections and security measures that have been put in place for the new president including the vehicle he will be driving in the beast as its own, the first limo, it's sort of going transformation, it's suppose to be a brand-new limousine costing a million and a half million dollars, it was supposed to be ready for president trump's inauguration, it was not. i don't know what the problems were but the vehicle is not, so the vehicle you will see the new president get into is the same that barack obama used but auto week magazine is saying that cadillac which makes the vehicle, the same folks behind the escalade. they couldn't get it out in time for the inauguration.

.. always been this way, this exact routed by every president since the first eisenhower, general eisenhower, first, 1953, his first inauguration. let's look what is going on here, the first couple now, vice president and mrs. pence prepared to get ready for the celebration taken from the capitol to the new home. as we've been hearing in the interim leaving the white house with barack obama this morning and returning to the white house in about maybe a half hour or so, they have moved the rest of the obama family stuff out of the personal residence and put

any trump belongings into the personal residence. they repaint the oval office and everything is fresh and new, exactly to the new president's liking in the span of about five hours. i don't know what contractors you use but those are not my contractors. imagine you are moving entirely out and someone moving entirely in on redoing your office in same said house, not too many people have an office like the president of the united states. all in a matter of hours. let's watch. ♪

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[background noises] [background noises] neil: motorcade, is dotted, ts crossed. beginning with the president. united states and his wife and governor pence and his wife, other dignitaries will follow. normally works like clock walk,

not unusual for the inauguration to go behind schedule. this is one that is half hour behind or some after the military reviewing proceed very slowly, i might want to point out, a lot of folks want to see the new leader of the free world and the president. this is their opportunity to do so. it's a cold, chilly, rainy dehere in our next's capitol but not nearly as cold as it has been on other recent inaugurations. the coldest being ronald reagan's, back in 1985. so cold they had to move things indoors. there was no parade that particular year. we have not had the misfortune at least folks who come a long way to get this moment. you are seeing some of the key staff members, family members and others who have already arrived at the parade reviewing stand here.

and cabinet officials, appointed cabinet officials and their family, senior staff, confidantes of the new administration to come who will fill out the room, that large reviewing stand behind me. it gets a great deal of attention. a who's who in there, who is seated close to the president, who he is talking to, who he is not talking to. we sometimes overobsess about these things. one of the things that we also focus on the reaction crowds give to people they recognize. for example, a short while ago, jeff sessions arrived here, the choice for attorney general in this administration. he was treated like a rock star. oh, my god, that's jeff sessions. obviously a big moment t was a big moment, you know? it mightnking of kids, who they be a rock band or whatever but this town among this crowd, trump devotes when they see

somebody like that that is a big deal, attorney general of the united states, don't get me long, something commanding attention on a day protests were going on. seem to contain it. everything looks good. rudy giuliani just arrived here. are we able to see this, guys? look what is behind me here. otherwise, no, you can't, but trust me that is what we have, rudy giuliani. they have to come in a bus i guess, right? ralph, are they coming in a bus? well, there we go. rick perry. oh, i wish you guys could see this, because it is so exciting and i -- you know let's go back to the president of the united states. so you will be hearing a lot of noise behind me because they're going en route ultimately this reviewing stand behind me here which is right in front of the white house, 1600 pennsylvania avenue. they construct this thing and tear it down every four years. you're getting a large view from the u.s. capitol.

then all along this route where thousands are crowded just to get a chance to see the new president of the united states. charlie gasparino is with me right now. much has been made of the president's inaugural address and sort of in your face position he took, which shouldn't surprise a lot of folks, charlie, if you think about it. he campaigned on that but as doris kearns good win, these are same elites that you will have to be doing business with but maybe they know this is the way he'll operate. maybe they know this is also the way hopes to get business done, often times going over their head, tweeting over their head? >> he has the washington establishment scared to death from what i understand. neil: he riley does. >> i talk to people in congress, they don't want want to be targf one of his tweets. neil: right. >> you know, significant portion of the republican base loves

him, like die-hard, you know, die-hard fans, like a die-hard fan like as rock band, loves donald trump. so the only thing i can tell you is that, they're playing with fire now, messing with him. so he could give any speech he wants. we'll see how long that lasts. one thing i will tell you, neil, a bad economy, if the economy trades off, you look at the markets, i don't think you should make policy on every swing of the stock, markets say he is giving us contradictory, i don't know how the economy will react to his policies. if he doesn't get the economy going nobody will care what he tweets about. neil: it will be moot. the process, i do and know there are protests ongoing. the most violent of them resulted in a hundred arrests,

six injuries. nothing serious i want to point out, it isn't too far from the parade route. dan bongino, former secret service agent, looked at every president from ford up to barack obama, had thought it would be a bad idea for the first couple to step out to walk any portion of this. you mentioned something interesting, gaspo, knowing donald trump he probably would despite that. but these protests are off the beaten track. we got to stress the overwhelming crowd and response has been big and favorable. obviously you're competing with bad weather, but, what do you think happens here? >> you know, i, i just have something in my gut he is -- he defied tradition already, right? he gave the most non-inaugural speech in a long time. most inaugural speeches are not

campaign speeches. they're different. they lay out a vision and all but -- neil: doris kearns goodwin sounded disappointed. she didn't like it. i don't think i'm putting political views in her mouth but she tends to lean left. >> right. neil: big fan of john f. kennedy prose didn't sound like necessarily here donald trump prose. >> this is what got him here. i can tell you that, i for one, never thought he would become president of the night. he used to rip me when he was, right after he actually filed and after the first debate, we showed him in the lead and came on fox business ripped me, you didn't even think i would file my disclosure forms to run. neil: he actually hates you, truth be told, right? >> i heard not. i heard he likes me [laughter]. he is mad at me because i call him out on his you know what, which i will keep doing by the way. neil: this limo, the presidential limo, nicknamed the

beast, costs about 1 1/2 million dollars, about what charlie's vehicles cost but this thing is one of the most incredible vehicles on the planet. it is a gm vehicle, wouldn't it be funny made in mexico. >> parts on that vehicle come from another country, i guarranty you. neil: this is reviewing stand behind us, steve mnuchin and his fiance i believe. behind him, you can see rudy giuliani. what these are all close confidants and friends, senior staff members. those who got donald trump here on the right of your screen. that is in the building directly behind us. so you will see it fill up, again, with largely cabinet picks, senior staff pick, friends. a lot of times in barack obama's case, could be old friends from chicago, people he grew up with, michelle obama, the kids, same thing. they are allowed to bring their friends as well. i don't know how many it seats there. i do know they, they get a primo

location to watch a parade as does donald trump. the question is, charlie, maybe you can hazard a guess here, given it is only 90 minutes, i would expect donald trump to watch the whole thing. barack obama sat through and watched his entire parade. some presidents come and go because these things can go on a while. but this one given the fact that it's preordained at 90 minutes not like the first eisenhower one which was over four hours he might stick around the thing. >> i know donald. he is a guy perpetually in motion. he might jump out at 60 minutes, you never know. neil: you never know. they have a walkway they build from the reviewing stand to go from the reviewing stand to the white house. john kennedy did. richard nixon did. richard nixon did not stay for the entire parade. he would come back and forth to be seen or see, or given a heads

up or if a famous group was going but as, this parade really begins to it take off in ernest right now, protesters are far away, and fans and trump loyalists are close at hand. one thing, charlie, we forget as we watch this, people who come to watch an inauguration, we talk about all these protests with so many opting out not to go, it is as much for the presidency as the president. we forget that. that a lot of these people, maybe they didn't vote for donald trump. >> this sort of crystallizes, in the abstract, transfer of you power, a constitution delineates power, we have institutions last more than three months and three years like they have in other countries. we have an institution lasted a

long time, centuries now, right? you know, and that's something to celebrate. i think most people, whether they voted for donald trump or not, understand that that is a great thing. and you know the protesters aside, these are anarchists. i think something that the media should delve into more. i told you this before, we hear a lot about the alt-right, bad people i get it, but they're not burning stuff an doing this sort of stuff and this is bad. neil: they have not able to identify all the protesters who were part of that. they were not sort of like normal run of the mill protesters. many of them charlie and i bumped into, perfectly peaceable, didn't agree with the guy inaugurated, that is their free and their right but when it gets to be excessively violent that is another thing. this is along the parade route now, the question, given some of

the dust-ups around town, whether the first couple walks part of it. 40 years ago when jimmy carter was sworn in president, that was 40 years ago today, right? he walked the entire route. no one knew that would happen. that was not telegraphed. i was told at the time even secret service agents he decided to hop out. >> is a risk. neil: it's a big risk. these are very scary times. former senator bob kerrey is with us. i hope he is. senator, i'm sorry i was not aware you are here. >> i have to shave before you interview me. i kid. neil: man, oh, man, you have every right to be upset. i know you're not too into that one thing or another. but how do you think this day is going, peaceful transfer of power? whether you like donald trump or not, as you know there are 60 plus congressman who ultimately

decided not to go to this protesting at this moment, what do you think of that? >> well you said it right, it's their right. they can make that gesture on behalf of their people. they get elected, and they will stand by that decision. so, they did it peacefully. they did it honestly and straightforward. i don't have a problem with that. neil: could it telegraph any trouble that a trump administration is going to have working with democrats, working with these same folks who decided not to show up for his inauguration. how will that go do you think? >> every president discovers in a hurry they don't have any votes up on the hill. the president is created in article ii in constitution, not article i. the president doesn't have any authority or votes. he needs democrats and republicans. i love pagentry and peaceful transition of power. one more reason to thank george washington and others to enable to have this sort of

system. it is spectacular. i wasn't crazy about the speech. i would imagine if i'm sitting there with democrat or republican, some of the things we were saying about trade may make it more difficult for republicans and democrats. neil: such as, such as? >> be clear i'm not a economic or political populist. i don't like blaming our problems on somebody else. my own view is we have a lost freedom. we hang together as families, go to church on sunday, we tell the truth, work hard and that is who we are, make us exceptional. no reason to be pessimistic blaming about our future. we have lots of challenges and problems. many of the solutions will not be popular. it will have to democrats and pub pucks coming together to explain why these things have to be done. i didn't hear that appeal in the speech. that said i don't want to make my comments about why i didn't like the speech. i love this process. he is my president today.

you know, there is no question about that. and now he has got the task of governing. now he has the task of per situating congress to do things he wants to do. i completely accept his top priority creating more jobs and more growth. that won't be easy to do. he will need republicans and democrats to get that done. neil: as we're speaking here, senator, you might hear a dust-up or a crowd and i'm at the presidential reviewing stand outside the white house. occasionally you will hear a roar of applause when cabinet members come in. ben carson was latest to come in. jeff sessions, attorney general he got a big response. do you see any problems with any cabinet picks being approved? we're told most likely two later on today will be formally approved, that is mattis over at defense. we might see national security, i guess what i'm asking, are you

surprised we're not seeing more, and is that a problem? >> no. i think, my guess is most of them will get, if not all of them will get confirmed by the senate. i just don't know. i don't have any granular washington what is going on in washington, neil. neil: the reason why i asked this, there have been some concern that democrats felt that this process was being rushed so they're going to, maybe, keep up the questioning, ask for more hearings or more debate. >> yeah. neil: i don't know how that goes with how the rules here, but, it could drag on. >> these things never become precedent. the fact of the matter is it is in the nation's interest to hurry, particularly the national security side. the great vulnerability for the country is during these transitions. donald trump is now president. he needs his team in place as quickly as he possibly can on national security and domestic side.

there is case to go quickly as possible there. are all kinds of ethical issues around president and some of his appointees. i don't want to dismiss those ethical challenges but i say there is compelling need to expedite the process of confirmation. neil: how do you think this mt. is going to do? we have all opinions. no more promising than the next. any gut call? >> the tax cut and infrastructure bill, repatriation legislation and those three by themselves, deregulation he is proposing they could produce more growth. i almost bet they will. but i don't know. i don't understand macroeconomics as well as i should i suppose, but if they do, if you get more growth and creating 300,000 jobs and unemployment goes down the president will have his wind at his back. on the other hand unemployment goes up and doesn't produce any

jobs, and deficit goes up and a causal relationship between our borrowing and government, he could be in trouble. neil: senator, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. neil: thank you for waiting too, i appreciate that. all right, i want to bring david asman and liz claman as well into this. what the congressman and senator was pointing out, guys, this could be a presidency, that obviously has its priorities right. sort of goosing the economy, getting better growth, all that, selling that, getting what you want, well here comes the governing part. david, how tough will that be? >> right. neil: he went over washington's head today in his remarks. >> he did. neil: so what do you make of that? >> as we all know donald trump is a fighter. he is the last person to say uncle. in fact i have never heard him say uncle. he is not a compromiser. he is the first elected president who comes neither from

politics nor the military. so he is totally from outside of the system, and i think he is going to play rough. he will not take no for an answer. he, obviously, at some point he will have to compromise but there were two, senator kerrey, brought up two concerns, not just liberals but a lot of conservatives have questions about his america first policy, whether that will involve protectionism but i focus more on the power to the people line, to me what that meant, was less government in our lives, whether that's concerning education, vis-a-vis betsy devos and what she is going to do giving power back to parents so they can control the education of their children or pruitt, getting sense back into our health care system where individual care, where individual patients have more control than insurance

companies do. while it down like populism, maybe it is, not bad populism. protectionism a lot of us think is bad populism. power to the people is nothing but good and what we need right now. neil: liz claman, we're a few minutes away from the markets closing. what do you think the markets are thinking of trump inauguration, of the trump remarks earlier today, some protectionist bent in that, what do you think? liz: neil, we've been watching i would say fascination the behavior of markets today, particularly i took note precisely 2007:06 p.m. eastern, when justice roberts ministered the oath of office to donald trump, the dow was up 96, zap was up 10. the gains were cut in half. we're coming back at the moment. the dow is up 86. the president spent his life looking at untapped potential

and prospects. he says this had too much untapped potential. his site is live and on it he is committed to developing a state of the art missile defense system. i immediately checked a lot of defense stocks like lockheed martin, raytheon, northrop grumman, general dynamics they were moving slightly higher. he pressed his buy american, hire american, clarion call. know, neil, he has been attacking some of the automakers. automakers have been down for much the session. see if hire american, make it in america theory helps or make costs go up for consumers. listen the american consumer likes his or her cheap goods. we should also mention it is looking like a myth that you buy on the election, you sell on the inauguration. post-inauguration stock performances three months later have on balance been up for president kennedy president johnson, presidents reagan,

obama, both terms up 5%. the selloff came from eisenhower, nixon, it will be very interesting, neil, to see donald trump's instinctive and distinctive ability to take a different route to success for this country will work for or against the markets. at the moment, it is working for the markets. neil: we're at the high point of the day on the dow. if we could show that, guys, let people know what is going on here. also melissa francis joins us right now. melissa, some of that protectionist sentiment was not growthed favorably by a number of foreign governments. german dries chancellor saying trump's inauguration speech had national listtic tones. this is the same guy few days ago said that donald trump was blasting germans and favoring mercedes you can find those everywhere in the united states, hard to find a chevy in germany, he more or less said, make better chevys. i'm paraphrasing here.

that is not a great way to kick things off between two friendly countries otherwise. there is the new sheriff in town to liz's point, huh? melissa: that is interesting. how you hear the speech. i was way, way in the back as a civilian. i came here to sort of enjoy it as a regular person, you know, it was very quiet as he was speaking. and you try to take the words in their context and think about how other people around the world will be hearing them, people around me were silent and listening and cheered on a lost notes you were talking about. it doesn't sound as forceful and nationalistic in person as i heard the reaction afterwards. neil: that is very good point. that is an excellent point, yeah. way it gets replayed. melissa: yeah, points people pick out. the way it is written up afterwards and sound bites taken out. in person, felt like i don't

want to say a regular inaugural address because what does that sound. it didn't sound particularly national alicetic, but people out in the crowd, and being a person on foot they have kept very tight control. i watched scenes on television and protesters, i walked around hire on foot. you see them but there are very small pockets. everywhere else, there are mountains and mountains of people who are hear peacefully watching the president and ushering a new administration. it is very different on the ground here. people are texting me, gosh are you okay? are you being careful? we did run into one roadblock where one group sat down in the street and doing everything they could to stop people exiting from the speech, from the swearing-in, they succeeded in that. we were stuck together in a big group. it was quiet and relatively peaceful. so much security everywhere. it isn't the chaos that it looked like television when

you're here, i have to tell you, neil. neil: that's interesting. we're watching this to the right of your screen, dow finishes up 92 points on the day. but it was a roller coast other ride. charlie gasparino is still with me. we're seeing if any possibility that donald and melania trump get out of the vehicle to walk any part of the route. this is icky day here. that is high-tech term for it is an icky day. it is cold and rainy t has affected turnout because it is not a nice day. whether donald trump comes out and follow a tradition since jimmy carter started 40 years ago, but what doou make, charlie, of melissa's point here, that maybe the speech the way it sounded versus the way it has been played? >> well, we should point out, reaction is to the choir, to a certain extent. and so people liked the speech there are republicans and people here that supported his agenda

and that are glad a republican is becoming president. i disagree with her notion it wasn't an in your face speech. i'm not saying it was bad that it was in your face. i listened to inauguration speeches. there has not been a in your face inauguration speech in my lifetime. i don't remember it. the markets thought so as well. the markets sold off forcefully a little bit but, because of the protectionism stuff which was incredibly stark. it wasn't like you had to parse the words. he said it. we are going to close the borders. we're -- he actually said i think, close the, buy within our borders. we'll make america first. he talked in very strident tones. not saying it is bad. saying that is what he did. neil: definitely was a very different kind of inaugural address. >> absolutely. neil: it was not polite or business as usual. one of the things we're focusing on still, david asman if you're

with me, how well he can work with the leadership on the hill and we heard variations of this story, he will have problems with both parties. republican might not necessarily buy his large infrastructure plans. others might balk what he wants to do with these tax cuts. how big of a deal is that going to be within his own party, handicap it for me, dave? >> remember i said before he is not a compromiser but he is appointed, or nominated i should say. of course they still need to be approved i about the senate but he nominated people who are classic compromises and deal-makers and people, we saw that in steve mnuchin's hearing i think, even though they threw everything at him they could, he emerged from that pretty clean i thought. he did so by saying without any irony in his voice that he would work with both sides. everybody seemed to believe that was true.

i think you will have a very tough-talking president who when push comes to shove, has deal-makers working underneath him who will get the job done. yes, he will have a lot of opposition. as far as republicans go, frankly where he can jawbone the leadership much stronger than they can jawbone. as bob kerrey was saying it is true the president in the a way is under congress because congress has to actually propose the laws. the president has just a chance to it sign him but the president has the bully pulpit. that bully pulpit in the form of donald trump will be unlike anything we've ever seen before. i don't think there has ever been in a president in my lifetime who knows -- maybe teddy roosevelt was last president who knew how to use the bully pulpit that came from teddy roosevelt. they may call it the trump pulpit. the fact he will get things done. i think he will roll over any republican opposition to what he wants to do.

neil: he already indicated right now that he will continue tweeting out. liz claman, you could say, those that don't go along with him or congressman or woman who doesn't necessarily go along with him, he could, he could tweet them out, right? liz: the twitter steamroller. too bad twitter can't make money off of it. it is unbelievable that twitter can not become profitable under this president who has 20 million followers. yes, that will be his electronic bully pulpit. if he is talking the talk we'll see if he walks the walk. he took aim at the washington establishment, many of the who he really needs, neil. you understand that is the way government works. you have to get people on your side. he is that guy, "the art of the deal." he will do it and figure out a way to use carrot and stick, stick and carrot. people got all excited when he started talking about that infrastructure moment people

were waiting to hear from the previous news conference they didn't earlier in january, he said today, we will bring back new roads, bridges, new infrastructure and then he wrapped it up by saying using american labor. we're waiting to see if the deeres and caterpillars and manitiwocs that make big cranes here in america, get to be the beneficiary of that. these are the promises he's made to those states like wisconsin and ohio and pennsylvania, they just want to see it actually come to reality? neil: melissa francis, if you're still with me, that is what agitates some foreign governments, right? melissa: i am. neil: that has germany upset and then having china upset that he comes in with a very suspicious foreign audience, huh? melissa: yeah. i mean my point before was that it is very different to listen to the speech from the cheap seats. i was surrounded by people who had come on foot, who did not have tickets, who were trying to get nearby and listen.

they're listening to the message as it comes across, i believe charlie, what he actually said, we have gone out and secured other country's borders while not securing our own. when he talked about the forgotten man, which was the theme he had at the beginning of the campaign and thread that he seemed to lose somewhere along the way, when he picked it back up again, saw him pick up steam, he said your voice is heard. you will not be forgotten again. he was talking about how finally there is someone here representing you where washington has failed you. that is when the people around me who were wearing sneakers around hoodies and had plastic bags, and they started over them because it was raining, they started clapping and cheering. i know probably what matters most, how it reads and looks on tv because that is how the whole world see is, but how it was heard from the way back where you couldn't hear anything, finally someone has remembered the rest of us are out here in the country. that is how it felt. neil: very interesting.

guys, i want to thank you, very, very much. i want to step back what you are watching if you just tuned in, i don't have to remind you this is the inauguration of donald trump but just in case, this is the inauguration of donald trump. he became the 45th president of the united states today. you're watching a bit of americana, quad drone yield event and when you watch the president make his way what will be his home next four years, the white house. even though he seems to be willing to commute between new york and washington. his wife and his son will be largely in new york in the beginning so young baron trump can finish out his school year and his mom melania will be up there. how do they handle that? like any other couples with this sort of thing, except they are the president and first laid different united states.

as we look at viewing stand behind me, it is filling up very quickly, that is the reviewing stand behind me because this is made up of largely trump confidants and cabinet. we had a shot. you can make out what is going on in there. steve mnuchin is in there. the treasury secretary pick and his fiance. i saw rudy giuliani. that will fill up very fast. primo seats go to the president and mrs. trump to review this. we have former governor jim gilmore of the fine state of virginia. and i'm wondering, we're told, governor, 90-minute parade as this gets ongoing and get on sight. much has been made of its length. i think 90 minutes is just about right. what do you think? >> i think it is fine. everybody is enjoying the day. it's a fine moment. everybody is excited about the inauguration. i remember there was a similar length for the bush one, right

in middle of a rainstorm. people kept on going. neil: they really do. this one is not as cold as others. i'm sure you and i have been through but it it was a very contested contest and election. a lot of hurt feelings. the president trying to throw an olive branch to the other side. singling out hillary clinton at inaugural luncheon earlier today. but these wound will not heal overnight, are they? >> the divisions in the country have been very severe over time. but great thing about america, the people speak every four years. in this particular time this will be a fresh start. neil: what mandate do you think donald trump has to enact what he wants to enact? >> this is serious mandate. four industrial midwest states changed and voted for the republican candidate. i think it is decisive with the rest of the country. i think he will step out there

to be strong and aggressive. that is the kind of person he is and campaign he ran. that is what i look forward to. neil: people said did you forget about the protests? they died down considerably and police got it under control. it got pretty violent, and pretty crazy a few blocks out, west of here. there was even some talk would it disrupt the parade. that does not seem to be happening at all. just a reminder of the noise that is out there? >> exactly. thin you have the democratic congressman which boycotted the inauguration. i disapprove of completely. if you sit in congress swear to uphold the constitution, you have a duty to show up to stand by the constitution as the power is transferred peacefully. neil: we talk about how presidents have to seize the initiative, honeymoon period, how you call it. this president might not have the approval numbers than others

but much talk about, a lot of executive orders to undo president obama's executive orders. what do you think we'll be seeing? >> what i think we'll see, neil, first of all they will address the obamacare matter very, very quickly. i think time has come to really introduce the real argument here. whereas people were forced into a program they didn't want to do. it is not succeeding with a lot of the insurance companies. the premiums have gone up and driven people out of the marketplace. there are good things about it. i think those things can be retained. second of all i think he will be very aggressive growing the economy. if you don't grow the economy, people don't get wage increases and more jobs. i think he will be aggressive about that third on foreign policy, you take looking after america first. that doesn't mean, by the way, neil, in my view that you have to be all american and detrimental to your allies. i don't think it means that at all. i think it means he wants american interests protected.

i'm confident he will do that. neil: we're watching the motorcade as the good governor is speaking here. will the president and first lady get out, indeed looks like they are. to a norm going back to jimmy carter going back 40 years ago today. looks like the president and mrs. trump will leave the vehicle to walk part of the way here. indeed, that is the case. donald trump has left the vehicle, waving to his, not only to his supporters, but these are all americans who are here to see, walking with son baron. that is very tall 10-year-old boy. maybe 11, melania trump. did you know, governor, he is wearing ralph lauren? >> absolutely beautiful. lovely color on the lady. very elegant. neil: what are you wearing? >> i've got a gray suit on myself. you can't see it.

neil: it looks fine. it looks fine. this was the debate and advisors said giving dust-up and violence and protests only a few blocks away, better part of valor, dan bongino recommended if i were donald trump i wouldn't get out of the vehicle. if i were with him i wouldn't allow him to get out of the vehicle. obviously governor, i think charlie was right about this, donald trump, melania trump, ignored that advice. they are now out front. >> americans are not fearful people. this is not fearful first couple. listen to entire theme of campaign and inaugural address which is for the people and to be standing for forgotten person. getting out of the vehicle and watching, presenting himself, to the public along the parade route is perfectly appropriate. i'm glad he is doing it. neil: you're a great historian as well, governor. you know, some presidents come into office with very high approval numbers, great

sentiment behind them. jimmy carter did. that presidency didn't end great. you can't necessarily tell something from strong numbers at the beginning or weak numbers at the beginning. what is your sense how this president will personally connect with the american people? >> i don't think this president is going to be as concerned about the numbers or about the poll numbers. i think he likes to be popular. but i think he will be popular if he leads decisively and speaks decisively. if he gets lost in the poll numbers. neil: he has ability to go over congress's head. to go over republicans and democrats head. he mentioned earlier and will still challenge those who might challenge him by doing that.

, moving -- it works. would it work for him? >> yes. this is a modern day and modern era, social media, twitter, facebook and opportunity for the president to have access to the people directly through those mediums. tweeting is actually in effect going over the heads of the establishment, so-called establishment, speaking directly to the people. you said, well, somebody is afraid they will get tweeted on. why would that be? because he actually does influence the public by speaking directly through them through twitter. neil: as trumps get back into their vehicle here. again walking about the length of the parade route as obamas did eight years ago. i don't know about four years ago. you will have to take my guesswork, i believe its about the same. but we're told, governor, speaking of this only two, three tops of the presidents cabinet will be in place by the end of today.

i'm told that is kind of the historical norm which surprised me but the key defense ones and the key foreign policy ones will be. but does that worry you that he can't really hit the ground running? >> no, i think he is hitting the ground running. by all reports i've seen there is lot of work going on behind the scenes to get people in place. the senate will go ahead and confirm people. i believe the leadership of the country will be in place in plenty of time. key areas of national defense are in place and are moving forward dramatically. i think he will do fine with the cia, once he gets debriefings, understands value intelligence community offers to him. he has strong people in charge of homeland security and department of defense. people of the united states will be well-taken care of. neil: governor gilmore, thank you very much for taking the time. i wish i could figure out your designer but it looks great. it looks great. i always recount that story, no one cares what lyndon and i wear. it is what it is.

governor, thank you, very, very much. john rat zen -- john ratzenberger who pixar films were among the most successful films ever. good to have you. >> neil, good to hear you. can't see you but i can hear you. neil: i can hear you as well. what did you think of the president's address? some termed it in your face. others depending on the mainstream media websites irreverent, not presidential simply because he said what brought him to this moment. >> it is like captain of the ship, it is not a popularity contest. his job is to get the ship and

occupants out and back safely. whether he follows the rules or not, as long as he a good captain with a firm hand on the wheel, i'm happy. neil: do you think that he will be able to get a lot of things done? i'm thinking the way he talks about the american worker, looking out for americans, america first, going over the heads of the elites and up there saying this on a level where there were nothing but elites. how is this all going to go? >> how is the what going to go? neil: how is this going to go for him? >> well so far it has gone very well. he is even ended the drought in california. no one has thanked him yet. neil: [laughter] john, i know you're having difficulty hearing me but do you get a sense that he is going to tick off republicans and democrats? what do you think?

>> i don't get a sense either way. i get a sense he will do exactly what he said he was going to do. you know, this is a guy who has been in business building things, and having been in construction myself, i know that there is, you don't exchange a lot of pleasantries. you get the job done on time and under budget. if that is the way he will run the united states i think he will do a very good job. neil: john ratzenberger thank you very, very much. if you hear the marching bands, it has picked up the pace here, right behind me where the president and first family will be arriving actually any minute going to the reviewing stand. my colleague kennedy, with me now. what safe to say is historic day, i think that is an understatement but this idea

this is the donald trump that ran and donald trump some might thousand would change his posture or ease up a little bit in his rhetoric. he didn't in his speech today. >> he didn't ease up in his passion. and i think, what he talked about, he hit on that very special sweet spot for him, for part of the country that has felt completely marginalized. they have seen their jobs and their finances evaporate. they feel like government has been fighting for everyone but them. that was a speech tailor-made to include them. neil: yeah. do you think when you look at this, much is made, even of silly things, all right this parade will be 90 minutes, i don't know whoever came to that conclusion, but that is too short for a parade? we have to have something longer? >> i don't know i ever said that in my life. neil: i never say that right?

>> diet parades are fine. neil: do you really think people care about that stuff? in other words, or when donald trump goes up against the works, maybe signing a lot of executive orders -- barack obama? >> i'm curious how he does with some of these regulations that might directly affect my business and my family. that is what i'm most interested in. if i'm voting for donald trump and i think the country has been on the wrong track, the length of a parade and number of girl scouts and patriotic trihat fife players is lovely distraction. neil: girl scouts are a key dome mow for us. there goes that demo. >> they have good cookies. neil: they do. neil: if you look at first 100 days, 100 hours, 100 minutes in this attention-starved age, what

he does and what executive orders he signs to undo the other executive orders, do we overobsess about that? do we not sort of let a presidency new president breathe? or is the pressure such in the our media age get cracking like the very second you get in. >> we know exactly how much presidential power can be concentrated in the office. it was expanded during the administration of george w. bush. of course with the help of dick cheney and it was greatly expanded under president obama. for a lot of intellectual progressives that was fine. it was fine having the emperor and his edicts because he was such a noble leader but now somehow if you have someone in office that you abhor, completely disagree with, there is disgust in that amount of power concentrated in the presidency.ns of limited govern, we kind of have been saying all along, doesn't matter who is in power you have to keep all that

in check. neil: you don't like that. peter barnes is in with us. violent protests were going on. 100 people were arrested. we're told that there were about six, maybe 10 injuries. when i last checked none of them very life threatening but it got really, really bad in some parts here. peter, tell us what you saw? reporter: right now, neil, the protesters lit a car on fire and police are now moving in on to that car fire. smoke is now enveloping everything and they set of tear gas, so i'm moving. 1000 protesters decided to amp it up here, as soon as the car caught on fire, police are rushed by protesters, i'm in a mob with them being chased away with tear gas and the smoke. neil: where is this happening? how far from the parade route is this? reporter: just a couple blocks

off the parade rout at 12th and k streets. franklin square it's called. and probably several hundred police officers are on the scene. but now all of these protesters moving away, as they have now tried to close in on this. they appear to be trying to clear the area, so they could get at least fire truck over there, we're not sure. they may decide to let it out. i'm in the mob right now, trying to, trying to stay out and make sure the police can do their work. neil: did the protesters light the car themselves? reporter: yeah, well, they definitely wanted to a.m.p it up with the police. when we arrived at the scene a few minutes ago, everybody was just seemed to be in a standoff. protesters mulling around and talking. the police actually kind of seemed to be in a not in offensive pose, just standing

and kind of watching the whole scene. then all of sudden just within the last two minutes they set this car on fire. now the whole area is full of smoke, and police have moved closer to try to clear the protesters away from the fire so perhaps firefighters can come around and take care of that. neil: peter. be safe yourself. thanks for that update. kennedy, we knew a lot of protests were planned. in fact more tomorrow. a million woman march planned for tomorrow. hosts of other protests. protest weaken ostensibly against donald trump. some of the themes these protests kind of echo some of the themes of donald trump's remarks sadly enough. what do you make of this? how bad this could get and how it could affect the rest of this inauguration? >> it could. it could certainly affect how the city functions rest of the day or the night for many inaugural events.

i saw several protesters, i think it is really important, i saw them at the dnc and at the rnc. even at some of the protests, rather the debates there were protests that were taking place at the presidential debates we attended. and, there is a big difference between the people who make signs and organize an apply for permits as 99 groups have over course of the weekend and anarchists who descend and look to create chaos, destroy property. they put people in harm's way. they agitate the police. and those people are a bunch of jerks. those people have nothing to do with democracy. they actually squash freedom. they're horrible idiots. i don't have a problem with people who are voicing their opinions, making signs, and that's a very american thing to peacefully protests but what the anarchists are doing? i saw several of them. i saw them on bikes. i saw three different bands of them. they have brac bandannas over the faces.

they are total cowards. they try to provoke the police to the point where they do start deploying things like pepper spray soft bullets. neil: that is not happening along the parade route itself. looks of things, looks like they're closing in on lafayette park, which is the park directly across the street from the white house. it is just about our position here. we're in lafayette park across the street from the white house. he is going to turn turn into the white house and go into the north portico entrance. looks like what he is going to do. behind the scaffolding and viewing stand behind me, limo will be out of sight then and enter the viewing stand i think from the rear. as i look at this, that is definitely the plan that they're

going to, they're virtually here and this could take a while and can't empty this thing out right away, but to give you a round view, we're approaching lafayette square, right in front of the white house here. adam shapiro along this parade route you can tell us what he is seeing. adam, big surprise, given all the dust-up protesters are seeing, that the first couple still got out of the car at all? reporter: they got out of car, nee, by trump international hotel. he walked a little bit. you could hear the crowd cheering. what you didn't see down here, there are protesters mixed in with the trump supporters. there were people cheering here. there were protesters who gave the president and first lady as they drove by a certain finger salute, we'll not talk too much about. for the most part there was no kind of violence from what you saw not far from here about six blocks away. vast majority of people you see

along the parade route who are leaving are trump supporters. they cheered very loudly as motorcade made its way by. neil: you don't have the vantage point, donald trump got out of the car. he is very close to the white house now. that is the second time they left their vehicle, the beast, as its known. melania trump, baron trump are out of the vehicle again. they're literally, quite literally walking distance around lafayette park. treasury is u.s. treasury. white house is literally right next door. they might walk right into the reviewing stand itself which is just a few feet in front of them. i can actually physically see them myself from where they are now. so they are very close. kennedy, one of the things that obviously to get out of the vehicle, to walk into the reviewing stand, that itself is unusual. normally they go up in back of it on the north portico.

there is a sidewalk they set up and goes to that and then sits down, this is a little bit different. what do you think they're saying by doing it this way? >> this is the physical manifestation what he does on twitter. he doesn't want to be constrained. he wants to go out and look people in the eye. he is comfortable around crowds, not only during primary season and nominee and postelection, you remember he went to several cities in big swing states where he was victorious on a thank you tour. that is exactly what he is doing here, for people with standing the cold and the looking protesters in the eye and waving at them with his family. his wife looks stunning. neil: entire trump family. all the rest of the kids, besides just baron trump. he is looks like they are walking right to the reviewing

stand. people to right of us it got a little loud when they physically could start seeing president. they got attention. >> all three of their children, including their young baby. neil: indeed. the best laid plans are unplanned again. they will get, that is the benefit of being, just find it a little convenient, just talking into a reviewing stand just feet away. security what it is they seem to be telling the first family this is the way we're going to do it. we'll actually drive you to it. i always get a kick out of even at st. john's episcopal church, is within a stone's throw of blair house are with the trumps are staying before all of this, you can walk to it. you can't walk to it now. >> extraordinary security precautions they are taking. a lot of security is here. interesting day. they have learned so much from 2012 to 2016. certainly at the rnc where you saw law enforcement officers

from all over the country helping out at the rnc. neil: doesn't this remind you of a ride in disney world? you're so close. you can see the rye, right? no, no it is a long, snaking line. >> exactly. neil: and you had, even with your fast pass, you have a way to touch the ride and but not on the ride. >> still an hour 15 minutes. neil: you can be most powerful person on the planet but you still have to wait in line. when you are president of the united states they leave nothing to chance and take all sorts of precautions. so i guess my best guess on this is that now on pennsylvania avenue, it is anyone's guess how they will drive into the facility and drive into this area behind us.

-- of the limo. >> further down lafayette park. he is almost here. keep your eyes peeled. neil: there were some protesters along the way but they were drowned out by the trump supporters. >> during the oath of office when the chief justice of the supreme court administering the oath of office. counterprotest was taking place. i was a guest of kentucky congressman thomas massey. we were sitting close to the proceedings. there were protesters screaming out quite loudly during the oath of office. i was surprised the cameras had not picked them up. i was texting several of my friends and colleagues at fox. they had not heard that. neil: i remember that kind of behavior a lot at 2001 george bush election. that went on for 30 plus days and a lot of protests there.

it was still a little crazy but i think the secret service around local police are handling all this very, very well. i think if the trumps are ruffled they certainly have a funny way of showing it. they know this is the reality today but a sad reality. >> people are complaining that the president doesn't have enough political experience but certainly has experience being a high-profile person. neil: this is nothing new. >> he has been used to crowds for some time now. i think that is an element of the presidency that is most overwhelming for a new president. and that is something that he is used to. starts to swing by our section. neil: now we're getting a pretty good view. i don't know what you can see here. just get a shot here you but we're where we're sitting, i don't think you have to go off sticks here, but if you see the wider shot, you see the limo

passing behind us. difficult to get that view. easier said than done for me but the trumps are here. they will now move into the reviewing stand. sometimes in the past these kind of reviewing stands lasted for hours. this go round we're expecting no more than 0 minutes. a good deal of 90 minutes has been eaten up what we've seen thus far. it could be even shorter than that a lot of people are wondering what are donald trump's plans later on today? there is a little bit of rest after the parade. he has two inaugural balls he wants to go to, maybe a third. but not 10 like the obamas had. >> in 1993 i attended the, one of the inaugural balls for new president named william jefferson clinton. there was quite a bit of excitement in hollywood and the entertainment industry. mtv threw a ball for him. i believe there were 17 balls that night for the clintons.

neil: all right. [cheering] >> there he is, emerging from the vehicle. [cheering] neil: he has arrived here. we can see him. there is the family. they are going nut just a few feet from me now. the entire trump family, the extended family. >> i was taking selfies. neil: this is something they were waiting for. you're doing the selfie thing now. >> you have to. it didn't happen unless you show it on social media. neil: absolutely. got a good view there. we're getting a good view here. he has arrived. third time he left the presidential limousine. i don't know if that is record. maybe not. but they have walked this route a few times.

when i look back in time to think of jimmy carter doing this the entire route, 40 years ago. >> yeah. neil: you couldn't do that today. just couldn't do it. >> no, and jimmy carter desperately trying to get the eyeballs of michelle obama. remind me of a neglected great-uncle at thanksgiving no one wanted to get stuck talking to. neil: that's fine. that's fine. hard to get a gauge -- as i'm talking to you, doesn't look like it normally looks on pennsylvania avenue. with the scaffolding and bleachers and everything else but seems what they're doing here is going up the north portico driveway just as we suspected. they look like they're are going to walk up the driveway when they go, just off of pennsylvania avenue. this is closed to vehicular traffic. i can remember a day when vehicular traffic was allowed.

this strike lar traffic is allowed. they will go up the driveway. walk up the driveway. looks like they will go beyond to the eisenhower executive office building. used to be the old executive office building. they will head in reverse to the white house. probably, do you think they go in the white house check it out see how the paint came in the oval office and all that? maybe read barack obama's note? >> how quick to the transition teams get obamas out and trumps in? neil: five hours. unreal. by the time they left this morning, this is true, always staggers the imagination for those of you work with contractors, not all contractors, just the ones i have had, but what happens here, is it is after he and barack obama left the white house today, for the ride to the capitol, right away, like the santini brothers they

descend on the white house. they move the rest of barack obama's stuff out even though most of it was gone, they move in the trump stuff. run down to the oval office, repaint it. >> no. neil: yes. this is what i hear. are you questioning my sources. >> no. that is incredible. neil: you gave me a look like you didn't believe me. >> not that i didn't believe you. i'm shocked and awe courses through my veins. neil: do you think that, if i told you that they have the whole thing painted redone, carpeted and all, they ask him what kind of color you like and what do you want? it is all set and ready, five hours. >> i believe that i want to hire those people to change up a few of the rooms in my apartment. neil: give you a list. tell you what you like. >> can't do two colors? neil: are you kidding me, are they going back in the car? no way. he is literally 10 feet. >> they have got good snacks. neil: they have very good snacks. >> as when you're president as we all know.

>> there was interesting moment when vice president pence was sworn in, barack obama was still president. neil: yes. >> and they played "america the beautiful." neil: there is the time that the vice president technically is over the guy chosen, for ten minutes, right? >> we had a split party administration for just a few moments. neil: that's right. libertarians dig that kind of stuff. you go nuts. >> what i've been devouring, contentious race, they say this is the most contentious presidential race in history. no, no. got nothing on john quincy adams and andrew jackson. andrew jackson completed very route without the military hery. there was no military escort because john quincy adams wouldn't allow it, after they had various family members accused of pimping and prostitution. neil: what did he do? >> he was surrounded by essentially militiamen and supporters who were screaming, give him bully, old hickory. neil: i see.

by the way no accident that donald trump relates most to andrew jackson. populist, in your face type of leadership that defied the conventional party system at the time. his was born, won popular vote, screwed around in the electoral vote, in the end he avenges it all but it was, it was nasty. >> eventually he became president but a very contentious race they had the four years before and very interesting that, because they had expanded voting right in several big states like new york, more people were able to cast a vote. neil: that is fascinating i wish you would stop. you're so boring me now. >> can we you can talk about snacks in the car again? neil: don't get me going on electoral votes. i will bore you back, i've gotten all this wrong. sounds like they are going to come around and enter the south

lawn. >> yeah. neil: they're not going to got way we thought. i guess gates have to open up the south lawn. they're going a long way to do this. >> the secret service with the jumping and whatnot. neil: i'm not kidding you could walk this entire thing half hour tops, walk it, go right to the white house. but then again what would kennedy and i talk about if we had that? we just did. >> not long enough. neil: we went into jackson. >> no one ever said that. >> there we go. two inaugural balls tonight, maybe a third one. >> are there are three in fact. neil: there were 10 pour barack obama. >> i would say that is about right. and 16 or 17 -- neil: throwing it out there like i know. >> even 10. neil: exactly. how do they do that? if you have 10, you show up for each one, first couple has to have a little chance, bolt out of there. >> first lady is fashionable.

neil: does she wear a different dress? >> she will change out the evening. neil: are you kidding me? >> with only three balls to attend, what melania trump is wearing, they will be outstanding. they won't be tom ford gowns. neil: did you know rainfall ralph lauren did -- >> do you know who his brother is? neil: no. >> hal linden. neil: oh, no, she didn't. david asman, extraordinaire are, another one who we often ask, who is he wearing. david, i couldn't believe it, i got so many emails on that. you know, who is she wearing? looks like outfit similar to the one jackie kennedy wore in 1961

for her husband's inauguration. people pay attention to these sort of things. in fact she will once again be a big issue, even with some fashionistas protesting this new presidency. >> for those protesters are going to die down. eventually they will come over. i remember my father moved to washington, d.c., in 1961 because my father was in television. he worked for david brinkley. david brinkley convinced the nbc news bureau to open a bureau in washington, d.c. if you can believe it, washington was such a small story with eisenhowers, they didn't have a news bureau, nbc, or cbs in washington, d.c. it was the kennedys and jackie kennedy, david brinkley said, it was the prominence of jackie kennedy as a real standout first lady that led nbc to open a news bureau in washington, d.c. the effect of the first lady can have on a presidency could be extraordinary.

it was in the case of jackie o. of course to a less degree with mrs. obama as well but i think what's going to happen with this first lady, is she is going to set a standard, a standard for fashion that is going to draw in all of those people that are now protesting -- maybe there will be some standout, some political folks who just can't get over it but by the end of at least the first term in office, i think fashion designers will die to be clothing this first lady, melania trump. neil: i'm sure. looking at the front of the white house. this is the north side of the white house where the trumps are entering. i'm boring myself again. kennedy don't lecture me because you outbored me. donald trump will walk down this plywood sort of a walkway they have and disassemble. david, donald trump promised to hit the ground running.

a lot of people made a big deal, will he start work monday. will he start work now? effectively you're on the clock as soon as you're sworn in but he has already done as a great deal of president-elect, if you think about it. whether you disagree with moves he made with companies. he has done that all right as the president-elect. >> i can't think of any other president that has done that, has, that has made effective changes in the way the country operates and he has also of course telegraphed the fact as president he will talk about individual companies, not just, not just sectors jfk was the last president to focus on one particular steel company. he already has done half a dozen. he is not even president. neil: david, i want to ask you. we're looking at mike pence here. do you know whether the vice president have office in the white house and have joe biden access to the president he had with

barack obama? obviously he played an instrumental role already. what are you hearing. >> i'm hearing he will play a role. that is the reason why he was chosen as we mentioned so many times as first president who hasn't had a background in politics or the military. he picked as his vice president one of the consummate insiders. a guy who knows both houses of congress. a guy who has been a governor of a state as well. so this guy is going to have an extraordinarily important role to play, as being a middleman between the outsider and all of the insiders that this outsider is going to have to deal with. neil: you know you think about it too, david, say what you will of mike pence and all of this, he smoothed a lot of ruffled feathers and he was very instrumental in getting the establishment not to bolt from donald trump. he was, what did they used to joke, they you called him the explainer, he would take it upon himself to say this is what donald trump meant to say.

now you always hazard in electric territory there, but that's the kind of diplomatic role he has played. i suspect he will continue playing as vice president. >> how soon we forget how much the establishment hailed donald trump. granted they gave him reason because he talked about out how much he hated establishment. he talked about it today. but the establishment was out to get him. he was one person, mike pence, who was a member of the establishment who recognized that donald trump was hitting a chord that no other candidate was hitting back when there were 17 of them. he spotted it early on when a lot of us -- it is hard to remember, it was a few months ago donald trump was considered the enemy by members, most members of his own party. of course he talked ill of people that, like john mccain. you never talked ill of john mccain and other people who were heroes both in capitol hill

and outside. john mccain, of course a war hero. but when you went after the people that donald trump went after, they wanted blood. yet, this guy pence, stuck with him you through thick and thin. did behind the scenes work to twist arms. paul ryan came eventually kick and screaming into the trump camp. never officially so. i think without the help of pence. neil: you're right about that. there was a lost kicking and screaming. you're right about that kennedy, we forget how acrimonious and tense the relationship was with donald trump and establishment. a lot of it papered over right now. i always think that i could have more problems. the democrats it is a given maybe with the powers that be in the republican partys especially if they have a different vision. mitch mcconnell has different

vision on tax cuts. mcconnell has a different vision on infrastructure spending. so does paul ryan. how do you think that is going to go? >> it is very interesting, whenever donald trump says something incendiary on twitter or in an interview, mike pence comes out to soften it with a bit of lodgic. he says with a calm tone, this is what he meant to say and i that is what he meant about that he will act as liaison between paul ryan and mitch mcconnell and president. there was so much acrimony and people didn't want to get on the losing side. they thought donald trump was political kryptonite. if they endorsed him they would lose future political capital and people didn't want to hurt their campaign. a lot of people said he made a

big gamble joining the ticket but -- neil: the other fellow considered for this post, david asman, still with me, chris christie. >> yes. neil: whether donald trump could have won with chris christie the way he did with mike pence? >> well, talk about a good move by donald trump. remember, he kind of began to jettison, jettison christie as this whole "bridgegate" thing came back again to haunt christie. donald trump remembers a new yorker, new york and new jersey are kind of joined at the hip literally geographically and politically to a certain extent. port authority joint owned by both state. trump must have been getting word that christie's troubles have not ended. i think it was trump himself who cut that tie before it dragged him down whereas mike pence is mr. clean. he has been so many campaigns in some different arenas, from the

senate to a local gubernatorial race, that if there was any mud to be thrown at him it, would have been thrown by now. i guess he figured mr. pence was as crystal clean you could possibly get in the world of politics. therefore go with the clean guy who will be the right liaison for me. >> just to add to that very quickly. i think it also shows donald trump's intuitive skills when he hires someone. meets with people and likes them. he likes them on paper but he has to have a few interviews, a few one-on-one sit-downses. mike pence and his family the way he felt about him at that changed his mind and put him over the top. neil: maybe i'm old spice. i don't want someone quite as spicy. that is not a slap at governor pence but maybe more solid and vanilla. >> yeah. neil: that proved to be the stability he needed, and got him through a lot of rough patches. and i don't know what your

thoughts are, i can see into david's point being very active vice president. that has gotten to more the case with recent administration, going back to walter mondale and jimmy carter, we've seen recently very active vice president, haven't we. >> absolutely. you're talking about a president who speaks very warmly about the art of delegation. there are certain things he doesn't like to do. there are certain responsibilities that he likes to farm out. he feels that is what a good ceo does. neil: gone are the days when vice presidents went to funerals or openings, you know? >> that is why they put teddy roosevelt in the vp role because they thought it would be the end of his political career. neil: they didn't factor in what would happen to the president. >> as number two guy. neil: i could see a pence being that liaison to the sell programs, and maybe close votes too in the senate, because with the 52-48 majority for

republicans there isn't a whole lot of wig ghoul room if couple peel off, right? >> you're absolutely right. talk about things like trade and health care, some contentious issues even like the tax policy you discussed you have shorts with presidential aspirations. neil: absolutely. >> very strong feelings, and constituencies have high expect stations of them. neil: david, we'll look what will be now less than a 90-minute parade. might be truncated somewhat. much has been made of that. it is much shorter than typical parades. believe me, i'm already hearing from marching band spokesmen and rest who are saying awful things about us. and i, there is marching band union, i blame kennedy for that. so i will leave it at that. >> is that because of her mtv connections, are you blaming her? neil: i don't know. she said hard things about -- i'm gingerly trying to throw

that one in dobbs lap when he starts in a few minutes. >> i see. neil: what do you make about that, much a do about shorter parade, shorter we've seen in decades. >> fits into a little bit trump way of doing business. talk about the contrast. president obama would answer simply, he was never given any simple questions, but woe answer a question much longer than many people thought was necessary. i think donald trump is going to be very different in being more curt, more to the point. think of how short his inaugural speech was, compared to some other inaugural speeches that have gone on. i think he is going to get to the, i think we'll have much more efficient presidency. he is that kind of a person. he likes to do things before schedule. he likes to wrap things up quickly. his speech at the luncheon was short. neil: short and sweet. >> i think that will be the style of the presidency.

neil: i think you're right. blake burman at white house, what is going on there? the president has arrived, right? what is next? reporter: they're here in general area in front of the white house. the standard as you listen to a lot of supporters, many have been waiting quite some time here, waiting for president and vice president to come through here. should last an hour or so, we should expect donald trump, current president, 45th president of the night to come here to the white house for the first time as president, neil. neil: does he sort of, what is the rule of thumb? the new guy sorts of assesses the landscape? , now his house? obviously moved all his stuff in, whatever stuff was there? maybe redone the oval office or painted it? he whiffs out, is that the drill? >> it is interesting because they were cutting the grass out here yesterday. they were trimming up the hedges.

they were doing the carpets in here earlier. the trump team actually posted a picture on his official twitter account showing him looking out the window today when he was meeting here with then president obama, taking a lay of the land. he has been here twice. this will be all of his here a short time when he gets here, neil. neil: blake burman, thank you very, very much. seen at the white house, as kennedy was pointing out here, always the peaceful transfer of power. can not stress this enough, as you travel as kennedy and i have, you see what happens when it doesn't go down like that. we're very fortunate, i don't mean to hype them but we have a way getting through this, don't we? >> very important example that these go men are setting for go men in the country.

some who were very upset as we see by the foment of protests going on surrounding us here at lafayette park. i felt like the swearing was very subdued. a lot of people different from 2012 at president obama's second inauguration. and then when the president was sworn in and announced, people cheered. . >> inaugural address that was short and sweet, the shortest on record. a small group in our nation's capitol reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the costs. politicians posperked and the jobs left, the establishment protected itself but not the citizens of our country. today with pomp and ceremony and much attention, donald

trump told the world that ends. that ends now. our coverage, though, does not. we continue on fox business. more after this. . lou: i'm lou dobbs, we're continuing our coverage of the inaugural parade for president donald j. trump. we're coming to you live from the roof of the chamber of commerce building in washington, d.c. on what is an extraordinary, historic day in america. and joining me today, former senior adviser to the newt gingrich presidential campaign, randy evans. attorney and political analyst, gayle trotter. good to have you both with us. and gayle, this is quite something. i want to start with the fact the president and the first lady have been out o