the rest of the story. >> his middle name is payback. [laughter] stuart: whose line is it anyway. i like that. our time is up. we hope we entertained you at least, little bit last part of the show. neil cavuto. it is yours. neil: thank you very, very much donald trump just landed in philadelphia. probably got word that the mexicans gone ahead and canceled that january 31st meeting. the mexican president pena nieto said it was a waste of time. it would probably be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. the meeting is off. the peso feeling the pinch. it started falling as soon as we got the news. the mexican stock market was not doing much prior to this down about a percent. whether this comes up and the degree it could be a source of contention between our

countries, that is obvious but no doubt part of a theme in philadelphia for this republican confab the president is set to address. peter barnes with the latest from that retreat. peter? reporter: yeah, that's right, neil and this announcement from the mexican government goes on to say this morning we informed the white house not to attend the business meeting scheduled for next tuesday with potus, president trump, mexico reiterates its willingsso work with the united states to reach agreements on behalf of both nations. president pena last night did give a nationwide address to his people in mexico and hinted he might be doing this. listen. >> translator: i am saddened and i am against the decision by the united states to continue with the construction of a you will with that for years, far from joining us, has divided us. mexico does not believe in walls. i have said time and time again,

mexico will not pay for any wall reporter: so we have diplomatic rift developing here over this issue. not sure if president trump will address it when he speaks to republicans here at lunchtime. but the republicans here, this far north of the border are talking about the wall and how to pay for it. we heard from house speaker paul ryan this morning as well as majority leader mitch mcconnell from the senate. they planned an emergency supplemental spending bill to help pay for this wall which could be billions of dollars. here is speaker ryan. >> we are fiscal conservatives. if we're going to be spending on things like infrastructure we'll find the fiscal space to pay for that in our spring budget. so those -- reporter: so we'll see how they try to work this outgoing forward. we'll see what president trump has to say about it when his remarks begin at, at the lunchtime. neil? neil: peter, thank you very,

very, much. again the cost of this is anywhere from 8 to $14 billion. a lot of those funds were presumably preallocated. the clear impression with mexico they're not going to be forking over any of those funds. we have our first sort of diplomatic cross, and that's probably putting it mildly. former arizona republican senator jon kyl with us on the dust-up at a the border. what do you make of it, senator? this is not shocking this is going to be the big issue with our countries. one country, mexico, not paying for it and the meeting's off. what do you think? >> this is not exactly breaking news. president pena is having problems back home. his poll numbers are very, very low. you would expect the president of mexico to say something like the clip you just paid. donald trump is noisy about

building the wall and having the president of mexico pay for it. the president of mexico can not stand by and let that stand to his constituency. it is good news the meeting is off. diplomats on both sides of the border, get together, calm things down, find areas of agreement, when they do set a meeting it will be based on an agenda with basis for agreements between the two parties. neil: assuming president trump intent on going through with this building the wall, we pay for it initially, hoping mexicans follow through and pay for it themselves, at the very least we're going to start building this thing. so i could see this situation situation going from bad to worse as far as ourcountries respective relations is concerned. what do you think? >> i don't think adding to the wall or fencing already exists is that bilge of a problem. we have a lot of fencings on border. being here in the arizona, when i was in the united states senate i went to the border

many, many times. every time i went, there were new improvements, cameras, sensors, all things aid in detecting passage of illegal drugs as well as illegal immigrants. it is not big news that we have to supplement some areas along the border that aren't adequately protected. obviously that was all along intended to be paid for out of appropriations from the u.s. treasury. now how president trump expects to get money back from mexico is another matter. i have no idea about that. neil: one thing coming up, visas, financial transactions between the two countries, a tax or fee slapped on top of that. it wouldn't come close to raising money that would be necessary for this wall or whatever we want to call it, senator but, the mexicans are more or less saying, this is our stance. you mentioned the leader there is very unpopular for the time-being, under enormous pressure not to follow through

or even acquiesce to this. so where do you think ultimately goes? we build the wall. mexico sort of churns. then what? >> well, first of all, the american people would like to see america protect its borders and determine on our own who comes in and who does not come in. there is nothing inappropriate about that, and there are places along our border that need additional fencing, as well as additional cameras, border patrol agents. i understand the president is going to reinstate the program to build our border patrol numbers back up to where they were i think about a year ago. so all of these things will help us to insure that we can stop illegal immigrants and the big problem is, illegal drugs right now. all of that i think is what the american people expect. what happens after that will depend upon the goodwill of both the mexicans and americans working out trade agreements, working out other issues between the two countries but when president pena and then candidate i should say trump met

the first time, they had a very cordial meeting and i don't have any doubt can once the diplomats meet together, work together on an agenda, figure out how both sides can come out winners when the meeting finally occurs that a meeting will happen and because we are such close neighbors, it will have to be a constructive proposition in my view. neil: senator, i'm wondering with this gop annual retreat in philadelphia, now this issue that will no doubt become part of the theme here, you how do you think it's going thus far here? it will be a week tomorrow. donald trump has been president. how do you think it's going? >> well, i just spoke to the senator who replaced me from arizona yesterday. he said they were having great meetings. there was a great spirit of being able to get things done. they were excited about the president coming. they are excited about the prime minister of great britain coming to address the, the group of republicans there, which would be a first. so i think there's a great sense

of optimism this president is reaching out to them. when president obama first came into office he reached out but he didn't really follow that up. i think that was one of the reasons he wasn't able to get as many things done with the u.s. congress. if president trump can keep this up. i think it will portend very well for there to be a lot of success working with the members of the congress. neil: you know, senator, we've already got indications that, you know republicans, not surprisingly want to move swiftly but there are some differences as to house whips and how they go about some of those priorities including repealing, ultimately replacing the affordle ce act, obamacare. when we heard paul ryan earlier today with his senate counterpart mitch mcconnell, seemed like they were kind of reminding the president that, well, a, that they're out there, there is a house and a senate, and that republicans have a sort of a rollout in which they seem to be putting emphasis on the first 200 days, not necessarily

the first 100 days. what do you make of that? >> i think it is appropriate. having been part of the republican leadership in the senate, i can tell you how hard it is to get things done, when you got two different body, legislative bodies and rights of the minority in the senate are substantial. i think president trump will come to appreciate the timetable, the need for collaboration, and the somewhat difficulty that the republican leadership has, in trying to get things done. as he appreciates their difficulties, i think they will be able to come together on a schedule of things. i've been struck actually by the degree of collaboration so far. it seems to me that they are melding two agendas together quite well. i know as you mentioned there are some rubs still. neil: right. >> but, you know, president obama tried to do a lot on his own.

i think president trump is doing that right now with his executive orders but he will soon realize in terms of legislation, it's kind of a hard slog. he has to get used to slower pace than he has been used to. neil: i think jimmy carter found that out the hard way dealing with fellow democrats, tip o'neill included, he was never able to it curry much of a relationship. senator, good seeing you again. >> thank you. neil: for those watching at home on the left, you see air force one of the this is the first trip on air force one by the new president six days into office here of the he is going to a republican retreat here in which they will sort of talk about their common themes and issues that join them here including obamacare and how to dispense of it, replace it. the tax reform package and a rollout of a simpler corporate tax code and cuts in marginal rates. extending this out over 200-day period, not necessarily 100-day period.

the gop retreat in philadelphia itself. there is a lot going on there. at the same time we're getting word things are off to a tense start with our friends south of the border. donald trump had already said when he started hearing that the mexicans were not too keen on paying for this wall, something they made clear repeatedly, if mexico is unwilling to pay for badly-needed wall might be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. so president pena nieto has. the meeting is office. nicole on the floor of the new york stock exchange, how did they take all of this? wasn't exactly surprising on the mexico thing. it is another example how president trump wants to make good on a promise whether the mexicans will be part of that or not. >> it is like whether you like it or not. what is interesting about president trump, we know he is a man who wants to make deals. that is the idea behind the

stock rally we've seen as well. everybody knows he has pro-growth policies and he is willing to work with one country at a time, one group at a time, one side of the aisle at a time. this all to make his deals and make them work and be beneficial to the united states of america. so at this point now, we know there has been tension between the two of them. there is president trump coming out of air force one, neil. the idea we've had optimism and that pretty much continues on wall street. neil: connell, this is sort of his first big task with fellow republicans. he has been a bull in the china shop he enjoys. he is populist by nature. don't hoe do that every line and talking about infrastructure as a reminder of that. how will that sell with fellow gopers at the retreat? one concern if there is one to pick up on nicole's point about pro-growth policies, if you get into a back and forth with mexico as he appears to be doing now, that is something doesn't necessarily fall into the category of a pro-growth policy

if it leads to a trade war and back and forth on trade. we know the unraveling of nafta is all about inevitability. with obamacare you repeal nafta you have to have something to replace it maybe a bilateral one-on-one with mexico. optimistic as investors and republicans about pro-growth policies and lower taxes and fewer regulation this president seems to be moving forward, if there is area of concern this mexico story speaks to interest a little bit. we'll see. neil: gerri, how will this watch out here? whatever you think of the president he is doing everything he promised. and some people thought after the election, oh he not really going to build a wall. not really pushing this thing. sure enough he has and he does and he is. what do you think? >> that is just completely different from every other president, in my lifetime. what you see is a backing off, a

slow down, a sit-down and wait, right? but here's the thing that is so interesting today in my view. he is meeting with republicans. don't underestimate the degree to which this president is out of step with people in his own party on major, major issues. whether you're talking about taxes. whether you're talking about repealing obamacare. there are lots of big differences how they want to go about doing this. so it is not just the democrats who might have big questions, who want to stop some initiatives. it is also some of the republicans. there are big differences between the white house and both parties now. and can trump bring this all together? that is a very good question. but i have to tell you the way this guy wields twitter account like a weapon, is one of the things that really benefits him because he is completely unpredictable. neil: you know, it is interesting too, nicole petallides, at the floor of the new york stock exchange, rare as

it is to see union guys singing the praises of a republican president. sure enough after meeting with him, celebrating the fact that he too you know, want to bring back keystone pipeline, fossil fuels, oil industry, all those jobs, say nothing of fracking and the rest, they like that. james hoffa the head of the teamsters telling me as much yesterday. we like this guy. we can really work with this guy. how is that going down? >> they're surprised, not surprised. first we know union guys are not necessarily so hot on the republicans. and he really has taken a newtht wasn't just national union leaders but also some local union leaders. so he, he is certainly has his work cut out for him. he certainly seems to be winning people over one by one, one group at a time. i don't know when the man sleeps but seems to be his way, his mo of how he does his business. as far as what he is going goino

going forward, i continue this by about tax cuts, to gerri's point he will hit some backlash from both sides of the aisle. they don't want to increase the deficit of course, but someone like steve forbes, who you frequently have on your program adamant trump supporter says great tax cutters like reagan and kennedy weren't worried about if i'm cutting taxes where will i have spending cuts? will it be contingent upon that? no, you put together great ideas. you boost economy. that will boost revenue into the treasury. that is the idea behind it. coming in like a big snowball. you know, i'm pretty sure that donald trump will change things as things go. neil: connell, we talk about this many, many times. think about it, donald trump is going to be addressing some of those same big establishment figures in his own party who are very happy they're in charge and very happy ostensibly of republicans in the white house even though he might not echo everyone of their goals or the pace they want to work but

they're also to a man and woman reminding him about tax cuts that have to be revenue neutral and all this. >> right. neil: how is that going to correct itself? because they have very different visions when it comes to what's going to goose the economy? >> we have to remind ourselves over and over, they remind themselves this is populist president, certainly not traditional republican president. we talked about this on inauguration day. we'll talk about it for the next four years, better part of that because he has taken pieces of the democratic platform that are popular with working people and that is why he has been able to get some union support, whether keeping jobs in the united states. certainly probably the best example that. anhe has taken pieces from the republican platform, probably more a few of that side of the platform because he is republican president. he has taken pieces that are popular. we had the conversation yesterday on tax side of things, you will see a movement to cut not only individual taxes but corporate taxes. maybe we see it to the point you

made last week, one of your interviews, we may see it in two different bills. maybe that makes it a little bit easier to move it forward and get things passed but i don't hear much conversation at all how we're going to pay for that. almost all of the conversation is centered now on an earlier point that was made on growth. that we're going to be have more growth. these are pro-growth policies. the economy will grow at higher rate. we'll put infrastructure spending on top it. next thing you know we'll grow our way out of it. that is definitely the bet of it. you don't hear much on fiscal hawk side of it at all. neil: on the ongoing mexico rift, i will pass it along to you, gerri willis, get your thoughts, sean spicer was asked about the mexican president canceling his visit, we'll look for a date to schedule something in the future. we will keep the lines of communication open. hope springs eternal i guess, right? >> keep the phone line open but

we don't know what when the call is going to be answered. no surprise there. ultimately they will have to talk. i thought your earlier guest in the hour said something very interesting, that the mexican president isn't very popular at home. you don't sit down with the american president, if the american president that hasn't been saying things that make your resident happy, that is exactly where they are right now. so, listen, i want to say one thing though. this market is still up. we are a business network after all. i just want to say there are interesting things going on inside of this. you would think that with everything the president wants to do on infrastructure, construction and engineering would be higher. it's not. it's down today. one company, vulcan materials, a gravel-maker, right at the center of rebuilding roads and bridges, a little off today. interesting how this is all playing out in the markets which definitely wants to get ahead of the news cycle. neil: a lot of that u.s. home

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neil: all right. i'm looking at this republican confab, this retreat that's going on in philadelphia. president trump is expected to address fellow republicans there very shortly. on the same day british prime minister theresa may will be doing the same. of course she is scheduled to meet, the first foreign leader scheduled to meet the new president since he has become president. one foreign leader who will not be meeting and soon thereafter, is the president of the mexico

who is apparently said because of this dust-up over the wall, look at that, i just can't do this right now. so that powwow is off. read from president trump is if mexico is not willing to pay for badly-needed wall, it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. the mexican president agrees with that so that meeting is off. the read from all of this, john hannah, former national security advisor to dick cheney. john, i wanted to at first pick your brain on that, whether it is a big deal or whether it's a sign of tensions to come. obviously president trump is keeping to this wall thing. it was a promise he made. a promise he expects to deliver, even if we have to initially foot the bill. what do you think? >> well, i would underscore that last point you made, neil, tt there is a real importance and value to the fact that you hav now got an american president who made promises to the american people and he is actually carrying those out.

that does begin to attack dangerous cynicism that exists amongst a large part of the american people about the washington establishment. they never do what they say they are going to do. he is doing it. having said that i would say that the president is taking an awful lot of actions now, like the wall, like nafta, on immigration, talking about black sites for the cia, getting out of tpp in asia that are creating a residue of tensions and diplomatic issues that i just hope people in the white house have thoroughly thought through, the second and third order diplomatic and foreign policy consequences of things they're doing right now. so people at the state department and elsewhere can take the kind of mitigating measures that we ought to be taking. neil: i always think that there are always, the bad cops and the good cops in every administration. i know there was john kennedy and robert kennedy, changing those roles intermittently in

the cuban missile crisis to deal with the russians or even now in the case of donald trump saying to the mexicans, all right, we'll skip out on it. i don't want to have a meeting and sean spicer saying, clarifying with reporters moments ago, the lines of communication are always open. so, if you will indulge my curiosity, what do you think is going on behind the scenes? >> no, i think, listen, this is the president who made "the art of the deal." i think an awful lot of this is transactional, is positioning. our opening positions of what the president understands is going to be a drawn-out and perhaps lengthy and even contentious process at times, as he tries to reset all of these relationships around the world. that he really doesn't believe are working on behalf of the american people. so i think a lot of this is going, going on and we just need to strap in and be ready for it. neil: when you talk about strap

in and be ready for it, he is talking about extending, other issues where he is looking at an immigration plan that could ruffle the feathers of those countries, saying he is a bit too abrupt and a bit too stern, a bit too in your face. how is, how is it best to handle that? we get support from brittish and populist movement within germany, not everyone feels that way, and especially those that come from countries where there has been terror, they don't like being branded terrorists, what do you think? >> no, i think these are all real live diplomatic issues, that again somebody at the white house as they issues these orders has got to be thinking about. it doesn't mean you don't do it. just means have you reached out to the french already? have you spoken and prepared with the germans, with any of our arab and islamic allies, this is coming down the pike, this is what it means. this is what it doesn't mean, here is what we're trying to

achieve, just mitigate the inevitable bumps that will rise out of this. it can be better or it could be worse and the diplomacy to all of domestic actions we're taking to protect the american people really needs to be thought about especially at a time where you still don't have a secretary of state in place at the state department, with his own team that's loyal to the president actually carrying out and conducting the for rip policy of the united states. neil: the only thing i could see maybe is a little different here, johnand you can educate me here, he is doing everything he said he is going to d some countries might express surprise, you might say cynically in this world we find that hard to believe when a politician comes into policy and even acting on his more controversial promises and everyone seems stunned. it is not as if he didn't telegraph this? >> yeah, i agree entirely, both at home and abroad, people shouldn't be surprised that the

is actually beginning to do some of the things he said he was going to do. again, i don't think, this is grounds for him not doing it but there are ways to make this easier and there is ways to make it harder and as long as you're doing the basic a, b, cs, nuts and bolts of diplomacy as you do all these things and thinking how they affect the rest of the world and how our allies will, how hard this is going to go down with our allies, i think you are going to be okay. you can mitigate the effects and make this happen in a way that both serves the american people and actually will begin to advance some of these relationships abroad. neil: john hannah, thank you for your patience. breaking news. we were talking about and this popped up along the way. former national security advisor for dick cheney. marcia blackburn, congresswoman from tennessee is with us now. congresswoman, let me get your sense of this dust-up with

mexico because i believe it is rare for a planned head of state meeting to be canceled days before said meeting. the closest i can compare it to is the chill of, with barack obama and benjamin netanyahu when he had agreed to speak to a joint session of congress. he was invited by then speaker john boehner but this is almost in that camp because this guy not coming at all! >> you're exactly right. it is something that is unfortunate neil, and i think that the president would have been well-served to go ahead and come in and meet with president trump and meet with con aggressional leaders and start a dialogue. the american people and mexican people would like to see some definition on that southern border and put an end to the trafficking, the coyotes working through that area. that has to be disruptive to

them and their families. so this is a problem that needs to be solved. i think he would have been well-served, let me be part of the solution. let's work this out. now, we might not get everything we want from them on doing this but i have to tell you anytime i've given the opportunity to be at the table i will try to fine a way to extend a hand and say we may disagree but work together for a solution. neil: the old line, you don't want to back the other guy into a corner you want it to be mutual. >> right. neil: tensions the way they are, both presidents backed themselves in into a corner. no surprise donald trump took the position he did. he repeated manies many times mexico will pay for the wall. no surprise when pinned into the corner the mexican president will say no, you're out of your mind. what i'm wondering about, we have a close relationship between our respective people. a lot of americans go to mexico,

visit, vacation, there are a lot of mexicans do the same, a good many of them stay, my question where you see that going and whether this could accelerate beyond what both presidents thought or intended? >> i thinksident trump has been remarkably successful in reaching out to those who have previously opposed him. and we saw that with the union leaders coming in. we saw it with some of the tech industry, with big business, and neil, i think you're going to see him continue to do this type of outreach. i have no doubt he is going to do his best to make certain that there are good relationships with mexico, with canada, and with other countries around the globe. it is important that our allies know where we stand. it is important that our enemies know that we are going to be forceful, and i think we have president in president trump who

will not shy away from making those positions known. neil: i think as you indicated the last time we chatted, it won't be business as usual with this president. >> that's right. neil: let me get your sense, i'm sure you've been watching these pow-wows in the white house, congresswoman. one intrigued me was the union leaders who were singing the president's praises. >> sure. neil: singing the praises of a republican president, this is unprecedented including the teamsters president james hoffa who was saying i like this guy i can work this guy better than last guy. that is something you don't hear said of republicans. >> that is very true and president trump chosen to show respect for individuals and respect for opinions they hold even though he differs with them. you and i know the basis of any relationship has to be mutual respect, and that has to be recognized.

that is essential for sitting down and working out issues. to the president's credit, invited them, took them into the oval office and listened to them. president trump is big on relationships. he is one of those wonderful americans that has a curious mind. i have lots of constituents have that curious mind and knowing what we do and how the process works. i think you will see the president continue that outreach and ask people about how they approach solving their problems. how they approach working with their groups. the teamsters, how they approach dealing with their wage negotiations, with their membership. what are the goals that they seek to achieve. how do they see themselves in five years, 10 years? that's how they bring people to the table. then you agree where you can. you disagree where you don't, and you look for consensus.

neil: real quickly, a number of these sanctuary city mayors have said, they're not going to toe his line on this and they will defy the immigration orders he has been rifling with signatures here. what do you make of that? >> right. i think that the sanctuary city mayors need to pay attention to the fact that they are working outside of the federal code, and federal law. and you can not encourage breaking the law. just as sanctuary cities, for those in the country illegally, what happens if you have individuals that don't want to pay taxes or don't want to abide by certain regulations from the epa, or department of energy or osha? there are, all of these other issues that crop up. it is a slippery slope. we need to nip this in the bud, and they need to come into compliance with federal law.

is it proper for the president to say yes, you have to apply with the entire code, not bits and pieceshat you like but the law? we are a nation of laws. we abide by the rule of law. that applies to everything, not just the ones that you like and picking and choosing and circumventing the law through executive orders, those days are over. we will abide by the rule of law. we will follow an orderly process. we'll get our work done and deliver a product for the american people. i think people respect that. neil: congresswoman, thanks for taking the time. on the left-hand side of the screen we're waiting for president trump. this is a gathering of republicans in philadelphia, a republican retreat and there are all kind of sort of checking their to-do list. how aggressive they will go what and when. much more talk not about the first 100 days. more like the first 94 days but

the first 200 days, something that speaker ryan was mentioning early on. you key in the right corner, market is in record territory again after pouncing right through that 20,000 level yesterday. now in and out of 2100. a lot of big news today in the corporate world. johnson & johnson's move to scoop up actilon, a $30 billion deal there. we've seeing verizon weighing a bit bid for charter communications. the deals are on, the optimism is there. connell mcshane, it is one of the things kind of like the wind at then president-elect trump's back and now as he is president of the united states. you always wonder whether the markets are getting ahead of themselves or they keep liking what they see? >> i think we had that little bit of a pause. one of the questions investors seem to have, would the president follow through on many of the campaign promises he made. we have our aner thiseek.

following through on so many of them and doing them at once with executive action after executive action this propels higher on the 20,000 mark on the dow. forget politics. there could be questions about valuation. there could be questions about hey, we've come a long way since early time in november. we're going to pull back a little bit just because it is healthy to do so and you start to bring politics back into it, neil, as we mentioned last time around there are still questions about trade we hear from the wall street types. if the president goes down the protectionist road, maybe the rally doesn't last as long. right now focus for investors are on the pro-growth policies the president has put in place. neil: to connell's point. neil: gerri willis, good for us, not in this case good for mexico. the talk is that the meeting is off and we're off to a rocky start between the presidents of our two countries. it has the peso falling and mexican market falling.

that is not a big surprise. it does remind you we're leading the world. if anyone is adversarial with us or disagreeing with the new president, there might be a financial penalty for that, huh? >> well, and absolutely. consider what happened already this week. executive orders on immigration. cuts to sanctuary cities, he wants to construct the wall, all of these headlines hitting countries like mexico very, very hard and trump is expected this week to move to restrict refugees. you put that all together, that is not something the president of the mexico wants to hear. it's a negative and negative in the markets and there is penalty to pay in the marketplace when policies go against one country or several countries. look at the end of the day this will have to be debated out beyond the first five or six days in office, right? this could take some time to

happen but you know, basically you see the president leveraging what he can, executive orders. he is not congress. he doesn't pass legislation. he has limited powers. for those people out there who get anxious and nervous and worried, he is not superman. he is a president. neil: that's what you say. that's not what i say. all right. just, through that right at me. >> i had too. neil: connell, see if you can do better than that. we're waiting for president of the united states donald trump. i have my buddy ashley webster, theresa may, the meeting is still on. she has not canceled or not disinvited. >> no war between the u.s. neil: no war, right. much has been said, i was catching a little bit on "varney"'s show, will this be like a reagan, maggie thatcher relationship? it doesn't quite fall into sync that way. >> different players, but i think people from both parties

would like that to be case. theresa may was just asked about donald trump. she said i like to think opposites attract. she is the first world leader to come in and meet face-to-face with donald trump. a huge coup for theresa may. she has to deal with an unorthodox and unpredictable president who announced about an hour ago, hey we'll have a news conference. that would be news to theresa may. neil: she originally opposed the whole "brexit" thing? >> she did. there was hard "brexit," soft "brexit," all of that. she would have rather stayed in the eu. but quite happy -- neil: now they're saying out, out. >> out, out. neil: she is a populist now. >> she is populist, go figure. maybe she and donald trump would have more in common than you think. itill interti. she is speaking to republicans by the way. she will land inhiladelphia in the next 20 minutes or so. she will talk to the republicans which really -- neil: they formally meet tomorrow. >> yes they do. the question was will they meet

today as they pass each other? probably not. the democrats are furious she is not going down to chat with them in their little retreat in west virginia. she is conservative. she is talking to the republicans. neil: you read, you're a worldly man, when you read the foreign press, what i read of any country, english version of german papers, they don't have much respect for donald trump. again they had very little for ronald reagan when he came in, i don't know what it is they just can't figure him out. >> you're absolutely right, neil, even in the uk, their big headlines today, i've been following sky, the bbc, a few other newspapers, their big issue theresa may coming here is about torture. donald trump says he believes waterboarding can be effective torture technique. absolute outrage across the uk. theresa may you have to go there and say you will not support him. forget trade and other things that is what they're

concentrating on. neil: that is dominating their coverage. they don't, i was mentioning earlier, you got into this, ashley, he is not surprising anyone. he is doing everything he said he would do. >> that is the surprise. neil: but proverbial bull in global diplomatic china shop. there could be many virtues in that too. >> it could. someone said to theresa may, appears to the uk, the uk needs the u.s. a lot more than vice versa, is it worth of risk of cozying up to a person who is not afraid of offending someone if you get a lot of benefits out of it, i.e., trade, commercial ties with the united states and intelligence sharing it probably is all wore it. he is not a politician. he will say things other world leaders frankly speechless i have a feeling at some of these news conferences which as a member of media i can't wait to see the two podiums and see what he is going to do and say.

theresa may is the first up. neil: we're hearing more what the british prime minister can do and when she is doing it. gerri, what are you hearing it. >> theresa may, from conversations she had with trump he has shown a commitment to nato. this is may come as a surprise to his many followers because he has been critical of nato. from conversations with donald trump he has shown a real commitment to nato, which is interesting given his statements on the stump, how he campaigned. a little gap here between what he says privately, possibly and what he is saying publicly. this is something new. we expect him to have a consistent message because that is what he has done all along. neil: we should be clear, many people lept on his remarks, connell mcshane, if you're still with me, that he wanted to pack up nato and have it go away. it started out who are paying nations and we're conducting and leading defense for the world, some of them are getting a free

ride. sure enough during the campaign a lot of those companies in arrears were paying up and forking over more dough. i don't know where that stands now. not that he was anti-nato but maybe i misinterpreted that. >> the language gets inflammatory, and we you draw conclusions what he means. that cast the was the case with japanese military basis. neil: what he meant to say. >> i couldn't agree more. trade also, other thing. he talks about trade all the time. it is he antitrade and protectionist, and-minded about that in an interview he is careful to say he isor fair trade. so that type of thing it is alst like a could be a similar misunderstanding but i think gerri's right, if he goes back on something that would be uncharacteristic of what we've seen this week. so many things happened this week. if there is any overriding theme it has been that the president followed through what he said he would do in the campaign. neil: ashley, i'm wondering on the mexico thing, donald trump

might have put himself and the mexican president in a corner maybe didn't intend what he said. tweeted out mexico unwilling to pay for the badly-needed wall then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. i think that was in response to mexican government not wanting to build the wall. >> absolutely. it's a mexican standoff. neil: why wouldn't you say it then to avoid a situation like this? >> they're pushing each other's buttons. trump, you hit him, he hits back twice as hard. 10 times as hard. -- president to come here right now anyway so i think he made the right decision. neil: he has very low approval rating, mexican president. >> yes. neil: he was under pressure if this is how this guy will treat you, don't go, don't go. >> he made the right decision. neil: connell, you were saying? >> this is completely lighter note. we were waiting for the president to come out, i apologize interrupting the conversation you were having but

we've been watching this television shot we have of the philadelphia event. do you guys think the pool photographer had few drinks for lunch? in and out like crazy. neil: i'm beginning to wonder that. wouldn't that be a killer if it was fox guy. what connell meant to say -- >> does connell have a brother? is this his brother? >> sorry to interrupt. neil: that was very valuable insight. >> thank you for that. >> you're welcome. neil: blake bu, is he traveling with president or at the white house right now? blake, i mean, you know, it was interesting when i caught mitch mcconnell and speaker ryan talking about their shared goals here, more than a few times they pointed out, you know, there is a house and there is a senate and we're all on the same team but we all have different jobs. i'm kind of cutting to the chase here, to sort of say, did i read into that this isn't just the trump show?

>> look, this is a republican house, a republican senate, a republican president. so you think they would be able to get republican ideals through but, as we have consistently seen here from mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, it appears there will be a little bit of give-and-take here with certain issues, especially potentially dealing with the budget. as you know, there are some fiscal hawks in the house and throughout the republican corridors, and you've got a president here that talks about a big infrastructure bill, a major tax cut bill. building up the military and all of that, as you know, neil, costs money. so that could be potentially one of the battles. and kind of the give-and-take, the pull between the two, if you will, between what the president want to do here at the white house and what republicans over there on the hill not too far away, a mile to our east say listen, we got things we want to do as well. we've got ideals we stand for too.

neil: you're looking out a at a republican leadership, there must havbeen a cference call, wear the tie, not wear the tie, wear the jacket. >> is this republicans looking casual. neil: it looks so forced. neil: we're here with the president shortly here. they are in complete control of washington. with that comes even enormous pressure, ashley, if you think about it. when the democrats they had this, rammed a lot of stuff through. you might not like it. you enjoy that have it. >> but you're name is attached to it. neil: absolutely. the president was very keen on sayings, i would like to get bipartisan support for some of this stuff. maybe i use infrastructure as a way to leak democrat votes. he is big on that. >> if anyone can schmooze a room donald trump. the point, how many democrats can he win over? we'll see. democrats have to win over party

members who may be very much anti-donald trump. neil: interesting, connell, we're looking at this, this is the same guy who didn't even think there was a chance that donald trump would be here but because of his victory, he solidified the house and the senate and they owe a lot to him. and so, whatever their tenseness of their relationship prior, they're all there now, and the more they get done, the better for all involved but donald trump has a different vision, especially when it comes to infrastructure than many in that room. how is that going to go down? >> i think that is politics. it is funny to watch republican members of congress to do it, become big fans of positions maybe a few months ago they would be in direct opposition to. spending is one of them. there is a teleprompter set up in the room. i assume the president's remarks will be fairly scripting. in this type of setting, ashy

was makinghis point a minute ago, this isn the wheelhouse of donald trump even in the past. kind of like one of these after dinner speeches where you see a lot of off-the-cuff jokes especially when he thinks he is in friendly territory and part of a charm offensive to bet as much support for his own party they need to get through. they know in the republican party, this is the time earlier when the democrats in the early part of the obama administration were able to get things done. they know this is a similar opportunity. obviously different agenda items, but similar opportunity. they don't want to let it go by. this is the start on a lot of those things you would think. >> interesting, connell, republicans say for the love of god, let's not bring up voter fraud. he has a bee in his bonnet and not talk about crowds. talk about unity and policy, getting it moved through. neil: ryan made a brief joking reference to that, well this guy will do what he does. >> yeah. neil: but you're quite right. they want to see the eye on the prize here.

they have very different viewsol different things to get them passed. the president seems a big believer that infrastructure is not only needed but can buy democratic votes and pave the way for corporate tax reform, big marginal tax cuts. >> those budget hawks in the republicans, at the very top of the leadership, have a very hard time. paul ryan saying w to fi space to make up for spending. we'll not spend like drunken sailor. neil: i touched on in the past, he will have more problems, the president with his own party on these issues. that where he will face, notice chuck schumer had no problem with trillion dollar price tag on infrastructure, right? >> that is the democrats for you, yes. republicans have to come to terms with their own leader. that is not easy. people ask is he republican, democrat, what is he? neil: finding a sort of a third way here. blake burman, much has been made

too of the president's executive orders and memoranda. i was really unaware until you started reporting there is a big difference between some of those pieces of paper he signed but his message is, he is sprinting along with these at a record pace, but that is as much to send a message, right? >> they are coming out pretty much daily or you know, the other day it was five at one point. the feeling that we're really getting here, neil, around the white house, and white house press secretary sean spicer talked about this before they even got in here was the sequencing, how they put these out, what order and rhyme and reason behind it is still very much in the works when you talk to foles around the white house -- folks here at white house. it could be a, b and c coming down the pipe. all three are different things and ends up being one of those or something completely different. neil: blake, can i ask you about that? normally when presidents sign executive orders or memoranda, whatever, you hear about it,

they signed an executive order, snapshot, photo, president signing something is. he explains it like story book time which i find quite useful. i have never seen that. >> holds it up with picture frame. neil: that is very different but very useful but why does he do it that way? >> he is great at marketing i guess? i don't know. normally you're right they do, they take the pen and they will take 10 pens so everyone gets one around the table. neil: right. >> he sits down and signs it, reads about it, story time, holds it up for the cameras. his way of going about things i guess. neil: i don't know, connell, i was watching once upon a time evil democratic president who foisted this on you -- >> good night, moon. neil: good night, moon. [laughter] >> good night, sean spicer. neil: but i have never seen that ever. >> he is a salesman, right? at the end of the day he is so

used to doing that, almost like everyone much these executive orders is rib upon cutting ceremony. that is thbackground he comes. neil back to your point how these come out, we're expecting today. expecting voter registration, something to deal with voter registration investigation, sometime in 4:00 hour, step back last week, white house press secretary asked into the voter registration? it is possible but nothing is coming down the line. fast forward the day president tweets about it. go another day we've got the voter registration, executive order coming. neil: who is doing that investigation? three to five million illegals were voting and cost me the popular vote, when, i don't know, you're closer to this than i am, blake, who is going to

launch that investigation? >> good potentially be an agency thing. i would also note that on the gaggle, which is our little fancy term for when the white house press secretary talks with members of the media on air force one as they headed over to philadelphia, they said details on this were still being worked out and that was around the 11 or 12:0 hour. it is supposed to happen at 4:30. the other day it was like, no investigation, anything is possible. thursday afternoon and we're waiting for an executive order for voter registration. neil: gets you sidetracked. whatever you think of the subject. >> neil he won. he won. move on. what is interesting with donald trump, number of people who say they sat down with him, he will continually change topics, he will ask you a question about what do you think about this border wall. so, what do you think about illegal voting? do you think i should pursue this? he you will start answering

that, go on to something else. neil: don't you think "snl" sucks? i have no idea. we are going to take a quick break here. get back to the president. remarks at it republican summit in you philadelphia. stick around. you are watching fox business.

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neil: albright. philadelphia republican retreat right now we have noted most, at least the men in that room are not wearing ties. and tomorrow that wearing ties. i have no idea about that. but now, the laid-back republican crowd they want to hear from the president who is the reason why they are there today and the members they are in the house and the senate. all run at the table in the town of washington and they are happy bunch. they just sort of want to go over their priorities here. i had the president we have real clear politics amy stoddard everywhere talking about the odd confluence of events going into

this. the mexican president suddenly can't than the january 31st meeting with president trump and all these union leaders, and loving and praising donald trump for unthinkable, unimaginable for a republican president. these are different times i guess what you think about this? >> the outcome in senate majority leader and house vicar were prepared for questions about how different the times are when they took to the microphone this morning because they came at the ready line that this was an unconventional president he an unconventional things will happen and they chuckled because there's so much news stirring about and so much drama and actually so many unanswered question as you know as republicans await the president in philadelphia. they're really uncertain about as confident and has assured us they found a lot of fun notes

about the way forward in terms of replacement for obamacare and these pressing issues. they haven't seen executive orders and don't understand how they work. there's a lot to be sorted out today. neil: maybe you can help me with this, but how are they just stay in to their priorities and how they will rule them out. i'm asking because when i was listening to speaker ryan, mitch mcconnell talking to the press earlier today, they sounded like they had a different version of what constitutes a big tax cut, about how you roll out the repeal of obamacare and roll and prumably replacent, which doesn't seem to be as rapidly as the president would like to see. i don't want to leap int differences there that might not be that severe, but they are notable. what do you think? >> they are there. it's interesting even the estimates of the border wall were higher coming from the leadership of the congress today

12 to 15 billion. they are going to try to use the exist in law in 2006 as we know for a supplemental spending will not come into this year's budget and created a firestorm. neil: how can they do that? >> they are scrambling to find a way. obviously as mexico, and its relationships with mexico had a with mexico had a bit of a stumbling block or a wall to use a pardon, it is going to make it harder to fulfill a pledge that they will definitely pay for it. trump said in an interview this week that a.b. said it will be very complicated but it's going to happen. nebulous, smirky. and the congressman can answer how it's going to get paid for. their fiscal conservative. paul ryan trying to compete that today. the first path out to economic growth and more hiring is through high health care costs. the first priority is fixing obamacare and replacing it.

he did not mention the biggest drivers of data, which are entitlement spending. we know trump doesn't want to overhaul medicare rate in our social security. those are the biggest drivers as paul ryan is the best. he avoided talking about that. he doesn't want to pick a fight with the president. it's true they don't have a consensus plan to replace health care and trump is right. you have to replace it the day you repeal it for the wiki repeal it. there's too much uncertainty and confusion sown from operating repeal and you know people are calling the hotline. they have no idea what's going on with existing contis and new sign-ups. the deadline is next tuesday. they have to get their act together to offer a plan b simultaneously. they haven't arrived at that decision yet. neil: if you can stick around, something we raised and of course now this incredible union support the president is

getting. take a look. >> this seems like upside down world right now. this is a republican president after a meeting with union leaders, one on ones with guys like you. that not to say he's not doing the same with corporate leaders. he is. but again, he's not getting typecast. >> it's important what he did the trade. those are issues that the transpacific partnership. he's going to renegotiate nafta. we have been talking about this 10 years and finally it's getting done. it's amazing a republican is doing what we've been talking about all this time. neil: that is james hoffa talking about good relations with republican president. the presidential candidate dennis kucinich. what do you make of that? >> when i ran for president in 2004, one of the things i said if elected i would cancel nafta.

this is not a republican thing. it's a theme that resonates when they passed another trade agreements have been a catastrophe for the midwest. i can see where president who has been one of the most powerful leaders attacking trade agreements, whether supported by democrats or republicans, i can see why he would be excited about a new direction. >> republicans are among the very forces working with president obama and they are the same folks now who have to maybe do a little bit of went in as president trump is saying this is a disaster. let's revisit nafta, all of that. >> of course there's going to be some whiplash in the political class, which has advocated these trade agreements and their connected to wall street as well because these trade agreements have benefited a few at the

expense of the many. the president gave his inaugural speech, he talked about -- he presented this tableau of destruction that's occurred in communities because of job loss due to trade agreements. people have suffered. the american people have been cheated. but you have a president, democrat or republican finally stepped up cannot just say something, that is going to do thing about it. i can understand why someone like president hoffa would say there is agreement here and be quite pleased. we have to see how the details unpack. certainly on trade, i think he's going to find agreement with not just labor, but other circles within the democratic party who have raised questions about trade policies. true to what you of him continuing to tweet with re-badge in tweeting.

it's no shock that president trump says that they are unlike to pay for the badly needed while it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. i can be amusing not to relaunch it congressman and senators who are blocking or opposing key legislation are members that he has. how upset do you think that could be, would be? >> it's very. good. we are in a new time and electronic communications have the ability to reach individuals. i would say some point somebody has to talk to the president and urge him to take a more disciplined approach towards using twitter and other social media because it becomes overwhelming. you put too much information out people can't absorb it. they may not be the best way to govern. quite likely to create a lot of

momentum that collides with other key things he's trying to get done. congress has to adjust to this not just politically, but in terms of policies. we are in a new era and the president has not held a public office before. for some people they think that's a great thing. there's another side of it, which makes them vulnerable to using the power of the presidency in ways that could end up stepping on his message. neil: thank you, congressman. always great having you. amy stoddard still with us. connell mcshane. jeannine riley, conservative thinker, very smart in all these things. a conundrum for conservatives because we're told the president is still keen on an infrastructure plan, a pricey infrastructure plan because not only is this something we need to do, but he doesn't shout this

they could be a way of winning over democrat on corporate tax reform. another means to an end. would he make of that? >> this is something that needs to be looked into and actually handled very carefully because of the amount of debt and deficit our country is currently facing. i look forward to seeing what the details will play out in terms of infrastructure spending. if i could just comment quickly on your interview with james hoffa, i thought that was a great interview. the visual of you interviewing him and the union leaders meeting with donald trump is the lefts worst night air. this is about jobs, what the election was all about. the democrat politicians have always wanted their followers, their voters to be and not look at the facts, look at how the policies are harming them and their family. i think what we are witnessing this first week with donald

trump working to get people employed by rolling back regulations and cutting taxes. this is what americans want. they want job growth, job creation a donald trump has had a busy week. neil: very good point. we are getting a lot of e-mails from people standing up, pointing out all the guys in ties. one pointed out, caputo icu and webster are wearing ties. that's a very good point. we are going to get ready for the president of the united states here. one of the things that was said that gets repeated again and again and again is the pressure on republicans to stay united when you have a president who's going to take them to places they don't particularly want to go, but could be in the long-term interest. >> absolutely. we saw absolutely. this officer of the campaign could republican leaders who would not jump on board with donald trump.

what's interesting is he's not a politician because he is doing exactly he promised to do on the campaign trail. the proof of the pudding is how we get the infrastructure spending, how do we account for? how do we avoid adding more hundreds of millions of dollars to the debt authority at 20 trillion. i don't know donald trump has a finance to do it, but maybe his team does. neil: he can just say do it. amy, this is a raging debate about tax cuts and whether they can live with deficits that get worse in the near term and hope for the revenue to calm. so it doesn't have to be revenue neutral to them. there's another crowd that says well, i think much of it, as in that crowd. they most certainly have to be paid for ahead of time. i can just picture they are doing, clashing on that.

>> they're trying to keep it quiet, but you are right its region. donald trump is a big spender. the wallace and expenditure. the infrastructure is an expenditure. the tax cut is and expenditure. increased military spending is in expenditure. they have run on fiscal purity for a really long time. you heard paul ryan used that language today. they don't want a fight with donald trump, but this is going to be a very difficult battle for them within the party. for conservatives, fiscal hawks selling out to donald trump in the short-term will not be worth it in the long-term that will be a big battle between those who want to just pass an agenda that looks great and sounds great, even if it's deficit heavy and get on with it and those who say this is not what we promised all these years. neil: talk about whether it's worth it or not. paul ryan thought long and hard

about the type thing. he thought the tie was a good idea. vice president mike pence. but he think of that? >> and thomas like chicago bulls. when it's a fog machine and the music as they come out. neil,, looking at this, mike pence of course where we went on to indiana governor, served as one of those republicans back in the day. these guys were younger congressman. but they are ready for revolution. they are not all of the same page, are they? >> we talked about this a little bit during the campaign and he wondered whether it is coming to fruition outcome of the redefining of alliances whereas more about globalism versus nationalism, populism. neil: mitch mcconnell is talking right now. is hwearing a tie? he is not. let's go to match.

>> from 40 years from washington down to john quincy adams and then andrew jackson came along. he was the voice of the people and regular people sent this new president to the oval office, to the white house and he made history by serving two terms in changing america. my first visit to her new president in the oval office the other day, i looked behind his desk and there is a sculpture of andrew jackson. how appropriate. join me in welcoming the next president who's going to make history and turn america around, donald trump. [applause]

[applause] >> thank you very much, mitch. so nice, thank you. [cheers and applause] thank you very much. thank you. thank you. so nice. nice to win, do we agree? it's been a while. it's been a while since we had this position. i want to thank everybody in the room. so many friends. thank you very much. sit down, everybody. let's enjoy ourselves. it's great to be in philadelphia. i went to school in philadelphia. a very special place in our nation's history. it is a place where we launched our american independent -- independence. the state of pennsylvania is important to me even a couple

months ago. pennsylvania cannot be won. remember? pennsylvania cannot be won. right, congressman? there is no path to victory for trump in pennsylvania, except we won. now it has been a long time since you guys did this, but it is just a great big tree. a great evening. i will tell you. but it sort of started in pennsylvania. they all said pennsylvania was the bride that got away, the date up with the state that everybody from the republican party that ran in pennsylvania for 38 years thought they want, except they never won. i thought i won, but i was afraid to say it because it just seemed that it wasn't working out. i think we agree, let's see what happens. good things happen. we love this state and we'll see it many times again.

now is the dawn of a new era of american independence, a rededication to the idea that people are in charge of their own destiny. i want to thank majority leader mcconnell. great guy. and speaker, paul ryan, very, very special. and he is writing his heart out. and we are actually going to sign the stuff that you are writing. you are not wasting your time. [applause] he would write and send it out then nothing would happen. but now it's going to happen. for their leadership and for inviting me here today, thank you very much. and thank you, later mccarthy, senator korn and, congressman scully is, congresswoman cathy mcmorris rogers for your leadership as well. it's been terrific. this congress is going to be the

busiest congress we've had in decades, and maybe other. maybe other. in combat. and think of everything we can achieve and remember who we must achieve that for. we are here now because tens of millions of americans have placed their hopes in us to transfer power from washington d.c. and give it back to the people. [applause] so important. now we have to deliver enough all talk no action. we have to deliver. this is our chance to achieve great and lasting change for our beloved nation. since taking office, i have taken major contractual steps to restore the rule of law and to

return power to everyday americans. claude mauch -- [applause] even though it's a few days, we've done in record numbers. we have issued executive orders to build the keystone and dakota pipelines. [applause] and issued a new requirement for american pipelines to be made with american steel and fabricated in the united states. [applause] and i was sitting at my desk and i'm getting ready to sign keystone and dakota. i said where is the pipe coming from? i won't tell you where. you wouldn't be happy. why is that we build pipelines and we are not using pipe that is made in our country? i said let's put that little clause in like a one sentence cause, but that is going to attract a lot of people and we

are going to make that pipe right here in america, okay? [applause] if people want to build pipelines in our land, we want the pipe to be manufactured. not only that, manufactured here, but you will see a level of quality that you are not going to see when they bring pipe from far distans, have to bring it in small chunks and fabricated on the land. give me a break. we can do much better than not we are going to do a much better and it will end up costing less money, believe me. we've reinstated the mexico city policy, a long-standing policy -- [applause] [cheers and applause]

by the way, on friday, a lot of people are going to be showing up to washington, right, mike? a lot of people. the press never gives them the credit that they deserve. they will have 30400, 500, 600,000 people, you won't even read about it. when other people show up, you read that time about it. so it's not fair, but nothing fair about the media. [laughter] nothing. a long-standing policy to ensure taxpayer dollars do not fund abortion services overseas. we've issued executive orders to remove wasteful regulation that slow down commerce and delay infrastructure which we desperately need. the very beginning of a massive

expert to reduce the crushing regulations on our economy and we are going to reduce regulations big-time. [applause] was also withdrawn from the transpacific partnership, paving the way for a new one on one trade deals that protect and defend the american worker. believe me, we'll have a lot of trade deals. mitch, don't worry about it. but they will be one-on-one. the won't be a whole baked mashed pot. there will be one-on-one deals and if that particular country doesn't treat us fairly, we send them a 30 day notice of termination and then they will comment they please don't do that and will negotiate a better deal. the other we can't get out of it. if i quicksand. plus we are going to have very, very strong controls over monetary manipulation and evaluation, which they didn't

have an tpp this would be so much better and we're already on it. i would like my congress secretary wilbur approved because i hear he did fantastically well, but they are not quick depend on signing these people because we would like to have had approved as soon as possible. mitch says it will be done and it will be. they could move faster on the other side i will say that. [applause] i mean, a meeting with the prime minister tomorrow as you know in great britain. so i meeting tomorrow. by commerce secretary want to talk trade so have to handle it myself. last night which is okay. we pledge in place the first steps of our immigration plan, ordering the immediate construction of the border wall, putting an end to catch and release, expediting the removal

of criminal air -- this is so important to me. from day one at saturday and i mean the immediate removal of criminal aliens are going to be gone fast. and finally, at long last, cracking down on sanctuary cities. [applause] it is time to restore the civil rights of americans, to protect their jobs, their hopes and their dreams for a much better future. congress passed these laws to serve our citizens and it is about time those laws were properly enforced. they are not enforced. [applause] the hour of justice for the american worker has arrived. border security is a serious, serious national issue and

problem. our lack of security poses a substantial threat to the sovereignty and safety of the united states of america and its citizens. most illegal immigration is coming from our southern border. i have said many times that the american people will not pay for the wall. and i have made that clear to the government of mexico. nafta has been a terrible deal, a total disaster for the united states from its inception, costing us as much as $60 billion a year with mexico allowed in trade deficits. you say who negotiates these deals? not to mention, millions of jobs in dozens and dozens of factories and plants closing down all over our country. on top of that i do trillions of

dollars the u.s. taxpayers have spent to pay the cost of illegal immigration in. much of it has then been sent back and much of it goes back to other countries and often times because they don't respect us, the otr countries wi not accept the criminals that we send back to don that are illegally and our country. i promise you they will start accepting them again quickly. we are not going to happen any longer. i will not allow the taxpayers are the citizens that the united states to pay the cost of this defective transaction, nafta. one that should have been renegotiated many years ago, except that the politicians were too preoccupied to do so. these people are not in that category, you understand. this is a different route. i think. last night to that end, the president of mexico and myself

have agreed to cancel our planned meeting scheduled for next week. unless mexico is going to treat the united states fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless and i want to go a different route. we have no choice. paul ryan and other leaders in congress and i and mike pence, who by the way, how good a choice was vice president mike pence? [cheers and applause] everybody loves him. [applause] in fact anytime i got myself into a jam early, you know, i haven't been doing this stuff real long, every time i got myself into a jam, they would say on television, look, he picked mike pence. so he has to have something

going? mike really helped me a lot. we're working on a tax reform bill that will reduce our trade deficits, increase american exports and will generate revenue from mexico that will pay for the wall if we decide to go that route. it is time that the american people had a president fighting as hard for its citizens as other countries do for theirs. and that's exactly what i am going to do for you. [applause] believe me. thank you. thank you. it's time that somebody fought for our country and didn't let anyone take advantage of us anymore. the world has taken advantage of us for many years. not going to happen anymore. we will have ambitious legislative agenda as well. our legislative work starts with repealing and replacing obamacare.

[applause] and saving families from the catastrophic rise in premiums and debilitating loss of choice and just about everything else. and remember this, for this room in particular, obamacare is a disaster. the democrats are up, saying they're putting up signs like it is wonderful. it's a disaster. i actually talked with paul and the group about just doing nothing for two years, and the dems would come begging to do something because '17 is going to be catastrophic price increases. your deductibles are through the roof, you can't use it, you can't use it, they would come to us. except we have one problem. we have to take care of the american people immediately. [applause] so we can't wait. every time they tell you about obamacare, we're taking them out of a big jam, big jam. we're putting ourselves at risk

to a certain extent because we're taking it off their platter but i think congressman, i think we have no choice. i think we have no choice. we have get it going. i'm serious. if we waited two years it will explode like you have never seen an explosion. nobody will be able to afford it. it is a disaster and, that's politically what we should do but we don't want to do that. that we want to get something done and get it done right. by the way, tom price will do a phenomenal job. i don't know if he is here but he will do a phenomenal job. my first day in office i signed an executive order to roll back the burdens of obamacare and pave the way for real reform like health savings accounts that empower individuals to choose a customized plan that is truly right for them, and have some choices. tom price will soon be leading health and human services. he is a true advocate for

patients. he is going to do a phenomenal job. we have no doubt about that. he joins an all-star roster that includes many of your colleagues. ryan zinke, mick mulvaney, these guys had a pretty tough time in congress too, in the senate, but actually came out very well. mike pompeo, is mike here? mike pompeo, phenomenal guy, and jeff sessions. jeff is a fine person. jeff was one of my earliest endorsers. [applause] he never endorsed a presidential candidate before and he was one of my earliest endorsers, respected by everybody and did unbelievably in front of committee, unbelievable. in addition to fixing our health care we're going to pursue new trade deals that create higher wages and more opportunities for ameran worker bringing back those magnificent words, made the usa. we used to have that.

we don't have it anymore. [applause] it's going to be a america first again. we will create millions of good-paying jobs by removing the economic burdens that cripple our ability to compete. at the center of that agenda is bold tax reform that massively lowers taxes for our middle class and for all american businesses. [applause] we will also pursue financial reform that will help striving americans get the credit they need to realize their dreams. republicans have always been the party of american industry and the american worker. we must embrace that heritage, rebuilding this country with american goods and american labor, and we've started, believe me, over the last couple of months. i don't know, i'd like to say i did about as much as anybody or more in terms of getting

industry to start coming back to our country before i took office but we have a lot of great news with ford and general motors and fiat chrysler and so many others. we have a lot of great news. lockheed is adding a lot of additional people, a lot of different people, boeing, we have a lot of positive things happening. it will really start bursting out. you will see it very soon. we want to get our people off of welfare and back to work. so important. [applause] it is out of control. it is out of control. and we believe that the world's best country ought to have the world's best infrastructure. it's what our people deserve and it's what we will insure the get. our infrastructure is in serious trouble. we will build new roads, and highways and tunnels and airports and railways across the nation. we will fix our existing product before we build anything brand new, however. we have to fix what we have.

it is a mess. so we're going to fix it first. the thing i do best in life is build. we will fix it first because we have a lot of things in bad shape. we will rebuild our military and take care of our great veterans. [applause] thank you. we're working hard with the veterans. we'll do something very special with the veterans. it's time. at the same time we will unleash the full power of american energy, ending the job-killing restrictions on shale, oil, natural gas, and clean, beautiful coal. and we'll put our coal miners back to work. [applause] thank you.

and we will protect our farmers, our ranchers, our hunters, our anglers, and all who enjoy the outdoors. but to be a rich country we must also be a safe country. right now too many families don't feel secure. just look at the 30 largest cities. in the last year alone the murder rate has increased by an estimated 14%. here in philadelphia, the murder rate has been steady, i mean just, terribly increasing. and then you look at chicago. what's going on in chicago? i said the other day, what the hell is going on? >> democrats. [laughter] >> [inaudible] that is why we will continue to stand with the incredible men and women of law enforcement.

[applause] yesterday i had the honor of swearing in general john kelly as our secretary of homeland security. he is going to be amazing. [applause] tomorrow i will swear in general james mattis as our new secretary of defense. [applause] these men have devoted their lives to defending america and now i look forward to working with them along with our great new head of the csa. we have so many different people we are putting in office, i think it is a group of all-stars like really nobody has seen before, right?

where is pompeo? where the hell is he? did he ever come here? >> he is working. >> oh, he is working? he is so, he is going to be another one of the big stars. i have to mention him every single time. he is going to be great. one of you have. [applause] and with you in congress to keep our country safe from the many threats we face today, that includes protecting americans from radical islamic terrorism. [applause] we also need to keep the ballot box safe from illegal voting. [applause] and believe me, you take a look what's registering, folks. we like to say, oh, trump, trump, take a look what is registering. we're going to protect the integrity of the ballot box and we're going to defend the votes of the american citizens. so important. all of us here today for the

same reason, to serve the citizens of our country. we are not here for ourselves. we are here for them. we are here for the people. we are blessed by divinity and honored by history with the task of preserving this great republic and expanding its blessings to every single american. [applause] thank you. thank you. all of us are joined in this effort. all of us are bound by duty, and bound by god to give our full devotion to this country and its people. that obligation forms the moral foundation of our agenda. that agenda includes a lean, efficient government.

appointing supreme court justices, so important. [applause] who will uphold and defend our constitution. re introducing taxcation -- reintroducing taxation and regulation. fostering respect for our country and its flag. we are now only at the beginning of this incredible journey together. i am honored to be your partner in this amazing quest. i am privileged to stand with you, shoulder to shoulder as we work every single day to make america great again. thankthank you, god bless you ad bless america. it's a great honor to be here, thank you very much. [applause] neil: you've been listening to president trump. this is his meeting with republicans at their retreat in philadelphia. we echoed things we've been hearing throughout the day. one confirming that meeting with

the mexican president is off after it appeared mexicans with not budge on paying for the wall. they have no intention of doing so. if that is going to be your position, don't come. mexican president said, i'm not coming. he looks forward, that is president trump to do trade deals that will include a 30ay notice of termination. also said that he will not allow .s. taxpayers to pay for the cost of a defective nafta, or in the end, for that wall, that we'll pay it in the beginning but we're not going to be dealing with the final bill. a lot of what he was saying the red meat stuff a lot of folks in that room want to hear. excuse me, to the federation for immigration reform president dan stein. dan, what do you make of what your -- >> first off, you have to spend money to save money. whether the u.s. pays for the wall or mexico pays for the wall, it will save taxpayers money because it costs us 1113, $115 billion a year on illegal

immigration. 15, $20 billion for the wall would be cheap. first time, breaking news, donald trump used term, if we decide to go that route, if we, the u.s., decides to pay for the wall, he would find savings in u.s. tax reform. i don't think we heard him say that before. donald trump has many, many tools in his arsenal if he wants to have mexico pay for the wall. neil: tell me what some of them are. i heard about visa fees all this sort of stuff but 8 to 14, $15 billion, that is a lot of money. how do you come up with, if it comes to us footing the bill. >> bearing whale, sim all day with their mouths open living on plankton. whether $2 border crossing fee. if you amend nafta, you do that. talking about taxing remittances. surcharges for transactions, import duties clearly. can charge more for non-immigrant visa fees for mexico. he has a lot of levers to force

mexico to could have up money. he could reprogram foreign aid and suspend the issuance of non-immigrant visas to mexico on condition of them paying. he has national emergency powers the president dealing with the national borders and national security and reach into resources that could be done from the u.s. budget. therefore try to assess it somehow for mexico. but he has this vast tool box, very you powerful president, presidential powers because it deals with international borders. neil: you know what is interesting, when you look at his options you laid out a few very well, the premise being, i think his premise is the mexicans need us a heck of a lot more than we need them. the proof is the fact they're going nuts over the building of this wall. leaving that aside, do you think that the two leaders will meet anytime soon? because the mexican president probably pressured by polls in his country show him losing

support rapidly, it would hurt him to come to the united states, to even hint of paying for this? where is the middle ground here? i mean could it get really ugly between our two countries where americans think twice vacationing or going to mexico or mexicans to the united states, not the ones who stay here but visit here? how bad could this get? >> well, remember that there is an important element of respect in the national psyche in mexico but donald trump also understands the concept of respect on our national borders as well and our southern border has not been respected. we're watching the first lesson in watching world class negotiating as donald trump calling mexican's government bluff, waiting for them to move or pivot. he canceled the meeting preemtimly if you will. that is strategic decision. donald trump if he is isn't good at anything is negotiatg. he knows how to negotiate and he says he knows how to build. he is negotiating with mexico and knows how to build a wall. if you want to learn where he is

going to go you have to watch this guy in action. mexican government realizes we have 29,000 mexican nationals in federal prison. mexico needs remittances from billions of dollars from those here illegally every year. they have much more at stake as we do as a country for a whole range of reasons. trump understands intuitively the mexican government will need to look like they achieved a small victory here. we saw trump give a little on who is going to pay preemptively, basically repivot his position in advance what we would assume a negotiating posture. neil: interesting read. i hadn't thought of that. nor did i think when the president was outlining exactly what he meant when he brought the keystone pipeline back on, adding a sentence or hoping to add a sentence saying the pipe itself will be made in america. in other words if i'm opening this up again and renegotiate or redo this, i want that proviso in there. always fine-tuning the deal.

>> yeah. well, just remember, donald trump is beginning to fully explore the full range of presidential power on immigration controlmost americans want the wall built. they're not really concerned about whether we pay or they pay because in the end as i said before, sometimes you have to spend a little money if you want to save money. americans are hemorrhaging the cost of illegal immigration. communities can not afford it. various refugee admissions he will suspend, very expensive for taxpayers. obviously the border area enormously benefited, enormously benefited from the cross bored economy but the consequences are rippling throughout the united states in communities all over. whether it is taxpayers here or whether you skim various transactions, remittances or for time, the goal is to get the money gradually over time from mexico, as i say, the whale eating plankton over time, you get through small transactions you recover the cost. neil: i do like the whale analogy. dan, thank you very, very much.

good seeing you. >> thank you. neil: to dan's point spending a little money to make a little money simplifying that, that is the argument for big tax cuts. spend a little money. risk going into a deficit before you bet gang for the buck. how is that message from the president faring with many in that room today, after this?

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>> it's going to be america first again. we will create millions of new, good-paying jobs, removing the economic burdens that cripple our ability to compete. at the center of that agenda is bold tax reform, that massively lower taxes for our middle class and for all american businesses.

[applause] neil: president trump's saying it's a recovery, you can own it, which is the name of the book, sally krawcheck, former citigroup cfo. >> i like how you did that. that was a segue, right? how will he move from trump to women, business and you just -- neil: let me talk about this we don't want to do things according to gender here but it was considering covering the inauguration, next day, million women march, big, big crowds for at, a lot of, to s the marchers unhappy with the guy in the white house, what do you make of that? >> right. i think at best, professional women, who i can talk more to are doing a bit of this. let's see what happens. but we're going to be -- neil: what are they worried about? what are they worried about? >> anything. they're worried about their bodies, right? the view we're talking about a fourth wave of feminism.

we have to go back and refight older waves of feminism. worry about their bodies. futures of their daughters. neil: do they worry about the economy at all? >> of course, of course they do. they do worry about with what protectionism can mean. potentially roll back of regulations for financial service. that is bias i bring, having, or view coming from the financial services -- neil: a lot of people in your old haunt and company they're happy for this, easing up on regulations. a lot of those stocks are best performers. >> yeah. yeah, you know the problem with that is, remember the last time the banks were allowed to have proprietary trading. it did not end well. interesting to watch what -- neil: you think your old industry has too many rules and regulations? that for the sake of trying to improve things and avoid mother meltdown we set them up for the next one? >> there are wrong rules and regulations. interchange fee, what was that? proprietary trading come on?

you want your bank doing that, the center of the economy. neil: you think those should be separated? >> i think regulations should be thoughtful and not all regulation is bad and not all regulation is good. neil: you know what i was amazed, polled business leaders on this, i don't know what is an accurate read, you probably saw that, if they had their druthers, men and women in the business community and those in the top, like you were and are, would prefer regulatio addressed and taxes cut. is that true? >> hmmm. i haven't heard that as much as you have, i think they prefer both. right? could we have both and fewer regulations, lower taxes, more ease of doing business? get the tax code down to one page would be terrific. neil: that will never happen. do you think it will happen? >> -- my book. neil: if i feel like it,.

>> fair, fair. neil: talk a little bit how people look at this environment right now because there is this vast chasm between how male voters and female voters feel, and i'm wondering what women in this day and age what is happening, do they feel like they're out or feel like they can't own it? they're not part of this or what? >> here is what i say backing up to women in business, which is where i'm centered, the progress of women in business has stalled. for all of the talk -- neil: where, we had -- >> we're going backwards. wall street diversity gone backwards since the downturn. you would think post a downturn like that, let's change things up but it is not unusual for an industry to go through crisis sort of circle the wagons, and business overall, gender pay gap, will take 150, 180 years by some accounts to close, more if you have a woman of color. some of your viewers, some of

your male viewers say, listen i don't think that is or you -- neil: much better than it was, right? >> it is better than it was. neil: what about financial industry? >> worse in financial industry as an average. here is an important point. for any of your viewers if they have women customers or clients, or they're married to woman or are woman, have siers or daughters putting more money into the pockets is good. it puts more money in the economy. neil: is that arbitrary? is that case of male and female broker? you pay them exactly alike or you set pay levels exactly alike? how do you fix that? >> well you know, the way you fix it, look at gender pay gap as mark benioff at sales force saying i won't have this anymore. a lot of folks say it doesn't matter. we'll pay people what they pay people and they won't move.

what is different, i to through this in the book, technology is enabling us to understand how much others are earning. back in the day when i go in for a raise. can i have a raise? hough? a lot. neil: women are not as in your face about that. >> today you can go to get raised, you know any of these sites that will triangulate how much you should make. people who don't think gender pay gap doesn't matter to the business, millenial women are leaving their jobs, number one reason is to make more money. neil: interesting. >> the book goes through this transparency now available can help drive more women through the workforce. neil: all right. thank you. had to indulge with breaking news. sallie krawcheck. we have developments by the way on this mexican thing. it's tense. more after this.

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>> all right. well, it is official. these two are not going to be meeting with each other after all. they did meet when he was

running as president, donald trump. but the mexican president and american president are saying tensions are such and who's going to pay for the wall, that's not to happen now. all right. trish regan. trish: well, he's keeping his leverage. we'll see what happens next. neil, thank you so much. president trump wrapping up his remarks at the gop gathering in philadelphia where he blasted mexico saying he and mexico have agreed to cancel their meeting. and he says he's going his own way. any minute from now vice president mike pence is going to be addressing the republican lawmakers, and we'll bring you that just as soon as it happens. i'm trish regan, you're watching "the intelligence report," everyone. so, again, president trump there in philadelphia doubling down his vow to build a wall and to crack down on sanctuary cities. he says mexico's going to pay for that wall. we have a lot to cover here. listen to him. >> from day one, i've said it. and i mean the