>> worth every minute of it. stuart: to summarize. we had all kinds of meetings in the white house and capitol hill. we have a stock market that turned just a little bit lower. it's trending down as we speak. we had a statement from speaker ryan. we'll get a tax cut proposal before august. we have president trump pounding the table on trade, not tax cuts. neil cavuto, it's yours. neil: you are right on the money on this. i think what happened is this collective shrug from official washington outside of the white house saying this is not going to happen anytime soon. i know what dan is saying to you about this border tax and how that was somehow baked into -- you needed that to pay for the tax hikes. but that was a weird one. you are saying you need a tax hike to pay for a tax cut. i understand that, but it was crazy. stuart: who made the decision

way back when that job one would be the repeal and reform of obamacare? who made that decision? i don't know and i would like to know. neil: it might have been a worthy goal. president-elect trump was advocating repeal and replace. and they might want to wait for that. with the understanding that tax cuts front and center as they were for ronald reagan. if you are making this an august or fall event or trying to find a way to pay for it by introducing a bored tax that might raise a lot of money. the idea of paying for a tax cut with a tax hike, the whole thing seems a little weird it was a great discussion. we'll try to pick up on that theme. this whole tax talk has turned

into double into. i want to you pay close attention to what they were focused on minutes ago at the white house on the issue of trade. >> it's been a catastrophe for our country, our workers and their jobs. i want to change it. maybe we do it. free and fair trade. not just free trade. free and fair trade. neil: what did you notice was front and center in that discussion. trade, nafta, the north american free trade agreement. some of course read into that, well, priorities have changed. maybe they have. sometimes in washington all you need is the appearance that that is the case. but i want to focus -- nor am i

making big deals out of little movements. but look what happened to the dow. i'm not trying to equate that that was the reason for the dip. but i'm waiting to see. congressman on all of this. congressman, where do we stand? the house freedom caucus of which you're a prominent member making sure everything is paid for, making sure you don't make deficits worse and apparently that is, was the thinking with the border tax would presumably pay for some of these tax cuts. are you insistent or among those insistent making sure those tax cuts are fully paid for?

>> well, the tax cuts are broad-based and you hope that that improves the economy. neil: right. >> now if you have selective tax cuts, yeah, you should make sure that tax cuts are paid for if they're selective and targeted. that is not the goal of tax reform though. the goal of tax reform is to do broad based tax cuts which you hope you boost the entire economy and improve things. at the same time the president suggest ad lot of things like his infrastructure plan and a number of other things. we're talking about more defense spending and more codomestic spending has to be paid for. of course we have to find cuts elsewhere. neil: do you equate, sir, i just want to be clear, tax cuts also have to be paid for so this idea of a border tax, a lot of yur colleagues, i don't know about you, sir, a lot of your colleagues are keen on because it could raise a good deal of money over many years, that was going to be important in this argument. as soon as president trump

indicated he wasn't a fan of it, a lot of you, your colleagues, all right we'll have to push this back again because we're not on the same page s that what is happening now? >> i haven't reviewed the tax reform package so what i would say, i distinguish between broad based tax cuts and selective tax cuts. a lot of times here in congress, congress gives out selective tax breaks, that are cronyism. in those cases you have to make sure you pay for it. you're giving a benefit to someone and making everyone else pay for it. you're changing the whole tax structure to help a few companies or an industry. if you have broad based tax cuts, broadly applicable to all businesses and all the american people, no, you don't have to have some kind of offset in the law. the point of lowering taxes is to reduce the size of government and reduce spending. neil: i understand that much, sir, if you indulge my rather ignorant line of questioning

here because i'm trying to wrap substantial skull around this. there seems to be a little bit of a battle within your party about how to go forward here. there is a camp that is very worried about deficits and debt and making sure everything's paid for. a camp that says, a big tax cut is what got us here, and big tax cuts will really improve growth. let's go with the big tax cuts. let's not get so bogged down in short-term deficits. as big as they are, debt as big as it is that is stepn the right direction. that seems to be the battle here. the party i in agreement. is that safe to say? >> it is safe to say that is a battle. i want to be clear, i'm for broad based tax cuts and i'm for balancing the budget. neil: balancing the budget immediately? >> well, the proposal i have would phase in a balance over 10 years. so i don't think you can balance

it in one year. neil: would you live, sir with the prospect, sy we get big tax cuts, you're a student of economic history, deficits, because money comes out of people's paychecks not to washington, then the money comes in as you get the economy, you know picks up based on those taxes, more money comes into washington. could you live in the interim with deficits that maybe get worse before they get better? >> only if there is a plan to improve deficits over time. neil: i see. >> you can't just have a big tax cut and then decide you're going to continue with all of our large social programs the way they work, continue with all the defense spending on trajectory forever. neil: you will accept that, even know it is not immediate, in your ideal you would like to offset whatever you're doing with one end or other programs on the other, but something like that? >> so i look at a 10-year window at least, are we bringing the

deficit down over 10 years? if you look at any one year or two years you could have deficits. there is no way to avoid. that will happen whether we have tax cuts or no tax cuts. neil: you're right. let me ask you, i know you must be offended, i don't mean to be. >> no, that okay. neil: i want to get and ha he will then on these time figures that i've been given. the speaker indicating this might be a late spring, summer, then maybe august event before we get this tax-cut package. president trump and white house moments ago tlking about trade, seemingly signaling that while the party wrestleses with this he is going to continue to follow up on making trade agreements that are freer and fairer including the north american free-trade agreement and that is just the way it's going to be. those who were hoping for an immediate tax cut it is still in the offing but pushed further back this year than you guys

originally hoped. is that true. >> i don't know what is true at this point. i mean the president says a lot of things and i don't know what is going to come to fruition or what's not. i don't know what our leadership is going to do. they make a lot of promises. we haven't had those promises fulfilled over the past several years. neil: interesting. >> i'm a little bit skeptical of everyone in washington frankly. neil: you're one of those guys. one thing, congressman, i don't know the house freedom caucus kind of view of this. do you think those tax cut, if and when they do come, be retroactive to the beginning of this year? >> should they be retroactive? neil: yeah? >> sure, they should be retroactive but again the issue is what are we doing over the long term, not just over one year or two years. you can have tax cuts and maybe there is impact on the deficit just like you might have social security or medicare reform might impact the deficit

in the short run but you don't really get the long-term savings unless you look out 10 years. you have to change the whole program over a long period of time. neil: congressman. you've been a great sport explaining a lot of this to me and our viewers. we very much appreciate it. justin amash, thanks for having you on. >> neil, appreciate it. neil: there has been a shift going on among republica. there is not abig fight, i don't want to get the impression. they're just not all on the same page. rather than bicker in public, they're saying in subtle language differences how they're approaching this, but the markets by and large which were hoping to see tax cuts front and center, regulatory reform front and center, realizing a lot of this other stuff is getting in the way. maybe legitimatety, maybe not. it is disappointing, waking up christmas morning that bike you wanted, you didn't get.

that is how wall street is reacting. they didn't get their bite or they didn't get their tax cuts. might get it easter or arbor day but not getting it now. you know, something delayed is not something necessarily celebrated. i only pass that along saying drama unfolding we want to keep a close eye on, involves the speaker who said tax cuts are still on the table. not just immediately on the table. no less than the president of the united states telegraphing that he has got lots of things he wants to do, including trade agreements and well, nasty exchanges with prime ministers from countries like australia. i digress but to make a point, this is a very busy and hectic time. they have got a lot on their plate. who knows that better than our blake burman who right now is at the white house, sort of taking a read of all of these developments at the same time. blake, what are you hearing? reporter: speaking of a busy and hectic time, neil, all of

sudden, foreign policy popping up from two countries completely different parts of the world. iran, a problem for years but out of know where, australia. widely reported a phone call between president trump and australian prime minister sent south fast. that phone call ending after the prime minister asked to president to honor apparently a refugee agreement with the prior administration. president trump tweeted out last night the following, quote. says you, you do you believe it the obama administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants. why? i will study this dumb deal. that in australia past 24 hours. there is iran the administration says it has iran on notice over provocative measures. senior white house officials saying that iran will quote, be held to account. there is possible financial and economic measures. house speaker paul ryan who you were just talking about, spoke on both these issues moments

ago, he doesn't think australia should not worry about united states and australia relations. he said he would be in favor of additional sanctions on iran. speaking of capitol hill, neil, paul ryan's counselor part in the nancy pelosi, she gave some comments some would say are incredibly charged. listen from nancy pelosi moments ago. >> what is america less safe to have a white supremacist named to the national security council as a permanentment member while the chairman of the joint chiefs and the director of national intelligence are told, don't call us, we'll call you. the public outcry toward the president's dangerous ban over the weekend was massive. and the president is clearly eager to shift attention away. you notice that every time something gets hot he changes the subject. he changes the subject. he is an illusionist. reporter: probably heard it off the top there, neil.

pelosi, alluding to steve bannon as quote, a white sue supremaci. so far no reaction from the white house, neil. neil: on this australia call obviously someone leaked it out. australia said it wasn't them. that directed attention to same group rex tillerson was addressing today at the state department. whether someone there released it to embarass the administration or put them on the spot. what do you think? reporter: keep in mind here, i don't know, what are we day 10 of the new administration. there is lots of holdovers. not just at the state department but pick an agency out of a hat, chances are you have dozens if not hundreds of holdovers. some career politicians. some folks who need a monday to friday job. you have to wonder about the intentions. i believe the white house said none of this come from here. so you got to guess, you might be right on this one, this could be coming from the state

department, neil. neil: not over yet, right? so you can't quite say. thanks, buddy. i appreciate it. great insight. we're following that. we're following this tax stuff. again i do not want to posit that this is the stuff of which market selloffs begin. the markets are gone up fast and furious since the election of donald trump. they have also gone up ahead of that on the notion we're going to see tax cuts and it uld be ronald reagan-like. that was his first priority when he became president. he stuck to that. not to say the other priorities are not important. we thought the markets collectively thought leading the charge would be these tax cuts and a complete revamping not only corporate tax code, but for individuals. and individual rate slashes across the board. that still could happen, with the markets are saying right now. gosh darn it, they don't look like they're going to happen now. after this. ♪

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>> put an extra f in the term naafa. you know what th is for, right? fr and fair trade. not just free trade. free and fair trade. because it is very unfair. all the statutory guidelines we're adhering to i would like to speed i had up if possible. you're the folks that can do it. we will make great trade deals and we will have something, i don't care if it is a ren -- renovation of nafta or a brand new nafta. neil: you were scared for a minute when he said, you know what the f stands for? you were thinking what i was thinking. don't go there.

charlie gasparino is here. charlie indulged me because, stuart was touching on this in his fine show, tax cuts might still be coming. but i think one of the big catalysts for the market run up were those tax cuts, regulations coming down. they might still happen, but, but, i think the latest signals are very clear now that they're going to be delayed. now they might be retroactive. i have no idea. i talked to the key leaders. that seems to be case. >> delayed until next year. the market was initially pricing in these things happen sooner rather than later. neil: maybe august phenomenon. >> if i'm thinking buying the market i'm going oh. i mentioned it in your show hundred times. neil: mentioned it 97. >> you keep track of everything. how many pumpkin lattes. neil: try the pepper mint.

but i digress. go ahead. >> if the thing is being put off, you talk to market people, steve who is very good on the market. he will tell you the market way overbought. neil: that is china's fault. >> we won't mention china. neil: give me one china thing. >> china! neil: very good. >> kind of combination between lieberman and trump. neil: yes it is. >> that is the problem, investors initially with welcomed trumpism because he had a republican congress and those tax cuts were right there, ready to happen with regulation cuts. now they're put off. now the market has to correct for that. here is something else very interesting, if you think about it, free market pies never made it into the administration, larry kudlow, steve moore, arthur laffer helped write the plan. neil: not big keen on big tax cuts. >> not keen on any tax cuts. we talked yesterday about

anthony scaramucci not getting public relations job with the administration. neil: he could get another job. >> that was a good business-related job. neil: larry kudlow doesn't get it. people big avocats of big tax cuts. what about wilbur ross? i thought he was. >> wilbur ross isn't like that. well burr ross wants tariffs on chinese goods. i am not saying. wilbur is not in the there because of wilbur ross. larry kudlow was verge of getting on council of economic advisors and was nixed. neil: he talked throughout everyone needs a break. he pushed that a lot on stump. >> i know. the president has never had a formulaic economic vision. he has never been -- i covered donald as businessman president donald trump. neil: you know my crackpot theory.

he destroyed it. i don't mean to bee suring him, whether he called into questions republicans calling for bo tax. paying for a tax cut i even advisable he came out said this is stupid. whether he outright rejected it or not, republicans responded, all right we'll push that one back. >> that's true. remember what he came out first, his first 100 day economic stuff was really about obamacare and building the wall. neil: you're right. >> republicans said, we can't really build the wall and do infrastructure and tax cut. we'll have to modify both. you can't have both. neil: it was then the president came out to say, wait a minute on this repeal thing. >> right. neil: when i said repeal and replace. i didn't mean they were years apart. i want them like rand paul wants, as close to simultaneous as you can get. that started i think speaker ryan and other. >> that screws up every administration. bill clinton tried health care

first term. put off a lot of good stuff he did later on. hillary clinton -- barack obama, couldn't get to the economic policies. neil: is there audio with this, ralph? this is the president greetings sop of the harley-davidson folks. they kicked this back and forth they would meet with the harley-davidson folks in wisconsin and have them come to the office. they opted for the latter. it would be funny if he and pence rode in with a motorcycle and sidecar together. >> he collects snakes. neil: harley-davidson of course is big on making free and open trade a reality. which of course pegs back to what the president was talking about with nafta and, look at all these trade deals. something i would imagine harley-davidson folks are embracing. maybe we catch a little audio here. see if we can. [inaudible].

neil: that is the president of the night meeting with some harley-davidson officials. he he has been meeting with representatives from all types of industries. tomorrow the white house with financial titans. tomorrow will be a little eclectic. it will feature not only jamie dimon of jpmorgan, always screw that up. contemplate my morgans. also iger of disney. the head of ibm, on and on. he has been very big as well meeting with big manufacturers because he obviously wants to keep those jobs here and harley-davidson, very enthusiastically embraced his efforts to sort of get that to happen as well as unions and at that's where the pragmatism of his comes into play. >> we'll see if he follows

through. jamie dimon will advocate regulation cuts on dodd-frank as soon as possible. neil: do we know jamie's views on big tax cuts? >> jamie is essentially a democrat. neil: big time. >> would want a corporate tax cut. he would advocate for that. he would also advocate for regulation cut. what is interesting about this, i think, that if mnuchin doesn't get the job as treasury secretary, something happens, i know they're trying to push him through -- neil: they got him through committee and democrats opted not to sit on the committee meeting. so they went through a vote without them. but there are concerns that a full senate vote, what is that about? >> there are republicans that are nervous because of lack of disclosure for some off-shore account he had in hedge fund. forgot about that. put it on his form. apparently, like that is an issue, okay. if that doesn't happen, maybe jamie dimon, this is jamie dimon. neil: i'm sorry. what is he saying?

>> we're proud of you. we're proud of you. neil: like a hogan's heroes moment where he drives off with pence in a sidecar but i guess -- >> do you have a chopper? i tell him you have a chopper. neil: how is this going? i mean he has had a lot of meetings. he has had a busy first couple of weeks. he is not letting up. >> yeah, people are still trying to digest his conflicting economic signals. markets are trading off from 20. they're not getting crushed. neil: they're not getting crushed. >> at some point the markets have to say what are his plans? how will they affect earnings? if he is putting off tax cuts and regulatory relief until later on the market has to go down. it is not valued. it is valued too high right now based on current economic climate. neil: do you make they're fighting like crazy? i don't see the republicans fighting like crazy. i feel they're not on the same page but being played out very

publicly in the media, on repeal andplace health car not in sync on that one. on trade deals how to reconstruct them if you do at all. on certainly tax cuts. so they have to iron out these differences. >> you know i think the republicans know he is the president. he has an agenda. i think they want him to succeed. i think they will give him a lot. paul ryan, had his druthers he would forget about infrastructure and do tax reform. neil: i think you're right about that. paul ryan gets a bum rap but he wants to do that. on the other side of the white house, north portico, north lawn if you will, orrin hatch and some of these others are discussing the idea of trade and all that is important to them. so they want that to be the case. we're monitoring that. another indication, sorry to interrupt you, my friend. they're not in sync on this stuff and go with low-hanging fruit. >> it is messy.

every administration the politics of the agenda is messy. here is one thing i think people will look back. should he have pushed through immediately tax cuts and regulatory reform to get economy going even more. neil: that is what ron ron did. >> yes. neil: if you want to try to do the ronald reagan thing, that would have been the advice. >> he did it in the face of a very difficult recession, very high interest rates. in two years the economy was growing pretty fast. neil: stay there, buddy, real quick. i want to go to nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange. watches made of the fact the market started dipping again on comments of president's comments on nafta as if it was a signal the administration, nicole, maybe acknowledging the fact that tax cuts might not be front and center, might be pushed back. what do you think? >> exactly. we're hearing them talking about everything from repealing obamacare, nafta and the like. that pushes off the idea that tax cuts will be a little later than sooner, rather than sooner. when you talk about companies, companies want clarity.

in ord to move forward they want to know what their costs are going to be, what their taxes are going to be and how can they hire and the like. big picture we saw selling happening on wall street. we saw the biggest selloff before the inauguration, before the election in fact, but as to charlie's point, it is not a huge selloff. we're at 19,860. this is arrangely a huge selloff. it was the biggest selloff before the election. you have to have this happen sooner than later but here's the concern. the concern everybody talks about is the deficit. you have got to do one and see what happens with the other. the idea behind trump's plan, taxes are cut, booming economy. everybody has jobs. then it won't raise that deficit too much because the economy will be booming. maybe that is one reason why he is not in a rush to throw that one through. neil: that is excellent -- nicole, an excellent point. what you're gettingting to the t of, house f caucus member told me earlier, if i had my

druthers, i would rather get a big tax cut and deal with the short term complications of a deficit that is worse with the hope of a long-term, you know revenue surge in washington. >> right. neil: that's what they're looking at. >> that is also what they face. he can get really criticized for that if right away he starts to give out these tax cuts to companies and could also appear like he is really helping the higher society folks as he posed to the regular folks. might not hit them as much. helping businesses too much. neil: bingo. >> he might succeed, he already has a perception problem. he is doing his best for all americans. i definitely think that is in his heart. i truly believe that but it is one step at a time. i don't think he has slept. do you think he has slept since he has been in office? neil: someone told me doesn't sleep much. >> one executive order after another. meeting with some important people.

neil: i like to get 22 hours. if i get less than 22 hours, just these two hours -- >> beauty sleep. neil: nicole, thank you very much. always cheerful, up bright and early on "fbn:am." we're waiting for sean spicer. we always follow these behind the scenes developments and what's happening and is everything rolling out as planned but to be fair to the president, there are a lot of things happening concurrently. you also have a state department i suspect that leaked out this australian prime minister nasty call. >> sure. neil: he is working with very bureaucracies might not be too impressed. >> you and i get a little guff, i see it on twitter playing it fair. for the most part the press hates this guy. they want to take him apart and all his people. neil: they will seize on things. >> here is another interesting thing about trump. trump didn't run on sort of a lineal agenda. it was agenda all over the place in a sense he was looking for infrastructure, like an obama --

neil: why union guys love him. >> he was also looking for tax cuts. neil: populist. >> when you do that populist mix with all the other stuff hard to do all at once. neil: very tough today. sean spicer addressing the media. >> six more weeks of winter, luckily for those joining the president down in florida you get time to get glimpse summer at winter white house at mar-a-lago. president starts meeting at 1:00 sharp. you saw b-roll of folks coming in literally. i will keep this quick. president signed a proclamation ushering plaque history month. he looks forward to engage in formative months honoring enormous contributions that african-americans made in our histoy. president was honored to host t swearing-in of the next secretary of state rex tillerson in the oval office. as the president said last night, secretary tillerson is a man who is already respected all over the world for the

tremendous life he led. he will bring his years of experience to the critical task of making our nation more safer, more prosperous and more secure. it is time to bring a clear-eyed focus to our foreign affairs. with secretary tillerson at the helm of the state department we'll do just that we'll strengthen our alliances, form new ones and enhance america's interests throughout the world. speaking of the president's excellent nominees, praise is pouring in from around the country. first pick for the supreme court. "detroit news" said judge gorsuch is quote a legal superstar. outstanding choice "the new hampshire union leader." richmond dispatch says the initial reaction was to cheer. "south florida sun-sentinel" touted as quote, excellent qualifications. yesterday judge gorsuch had his first round of meetings on the hill. unfortunately senate offices are not in the habit of releasing editorials from what everything we heard the judge knocked it out of the park on the senate as well. the senate looks forward to fair and speedy confirmation process

for this exceedingly qualified nominee and jurist. in my last briefing i read out list of senators judge gorsuch met with in addition to the meeting with majority leader connell, ma "whip cornyn, judiciary chair grassley and senators hatch and gardner. he met with senator joe manchin of west virginia. senator manchin expressed belief that judge gorsuch could get enough democrats to reach 60 vote. i agree. we have to have a few trump state democrats want to win re-election. so-called 60-vote standard is simply not accurate. democrats are grasping at straus to block the confirmmation of an unquestionably qualify nominee. i will repeat neither of the two supreme court justices that president obama put forward were subject to the 60 vote threshold. i agree with senator manchin judge gorsuch will probably get, enough democrats to get to 60, just simply not ever been a requirement. now on to events of today the president started his day by end

at thatting the national prayer breakfast. it tradition that continued over six decades going back to president eisenhower. the president thanked the american people for their faith and prayers that sustained an inspired him. noting that the five words that he heard more than any others as he traveled throughout the country are, i'm praying for you. he spoke at length about the isis genocide against christians and the edepression of peace-loving muslims and threats of extermination against the jewish people. he made it clear he believes the night has a moral obligation to speak out against such violence. he encouraged americans to remain a tolerant society where all faiths are respect and all our citizens can feel safe and secure. with that bowl if mind the president remarked he has taken action insure the united states will not allow a beachhead of intolerance to spread throughout the nation n coming stays we'll develop a system to help insure those admitted into our country fully embrace our values of religious and personal liberty

and reject any form of oppression and discrimination. the president committed to get rid of the johnson amendment, allowing our representatives of faith to speak freely and without retribution. in particular, in a particular pointed moment during his remarks president recalled yesterday his visit to dover air force base to join the family of chief ryan owens as america's fallen hero was returned home. after honoring chief owen for giving his life to the defense of american people, account quoted john 15:13 greater love than no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. after returning to the white house this morning the president held a legislative affairs staff meeting in the oval office with his team. the team continues to work closely with congress to enact the president's agenda with the nomination of judge gorsuch to the supreme court, extensive outreaches underway on capitol hill. we look forward to the judge receiving a swift and fair hearing. between his meetings the president was pleased to see the epa administrator designate

pruitt voted out of environment and public works committee. unfortunately become the president, the democrats boycotted the hearing requiring suspension of the rules in order to advance his nomination. following the strategy session met with senators hatch, wide ben, congressman braidly and neil. the president met with the ranks members of the finance committee and the house ways and men's committee to help chart the future of u.s. trade policy the president has put together a all-star trade team working closely with the u.s. trade representative and the committee led by these members to craft new trade deals. the president has expressed concern time and again with nafta which he believes is an out of dategreement. the ultimate goal the best and fairest treatment of u.s. workers and businesses and president believes those interests are best secured by biheart ral rather than multilateral trade deals. he looks forward to working with ustr and congress issues of trade. you guys saw the harleys roll

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they carry the secret service as they protect our president and they bring joy to millions of americans throughout the world and others throughout the world. the president is looking forward to host leaders from one of america's truly great entrepreneurial success stories. the american worker built this country and the president is to build a government that puts their interests first. national security advisor mike flynn announced additions to nsc senior staff. john eisenburg, deputy assistant to the president and nsc legal visor and counsel to the president for national security affrs. kevin harrington, deputy assistant to the president for strategic plning an kenneth just err deputy assistant to the president for national economic affairs. lastly we had a great reaction to our skype introduction seats. i know we had tremendous amount of requests pouring in from around the country. contact the press office if you know of anyone has an interest joining us in the future. in terms of the schedule for

tomorrow president hosts a strategic and policy forum. president has lunch with general flynn before departing down to mar-a-lago later in the day. with that, i take questions. katie pavlich. >> sean, thanks for the question. president trump talks about the genocide at the national prayer brake fast and last year the obama state department officially declared genocide by isis against christians and other minorities in the another east and africa. now that rex tillerson is sworn in as the secretary what specifically is the administration planning to do to comply with the legal obligation of protecting groups under u.n. 1948 treaty? >> that is great question. secretary tillerson learning his way around the building, gave a great speech talking about the goal for the state department. further guidance coming out on that, katie. right now his job is to get in get settled, talk to the employees. make sure they understood.

back to the issue. obviously it is important to the president. it was during throughout the campaign. something he addressed this morning and something he committed to, talked about, in terms of the executive orders and allowing christian minorities in key countries to seek asylum in the united states. he recognizes that in so many nations these are oppressed groups. in accordance with how the u.n. defines refugees. i think you will see further guidance. jennifer. >> thanks, sean. two questions actually. today the president renewed his promise to protect religious libertyhh he says is under threat. some americans see religious liberty as code for discrimination. can you give us a sense how the president views this? >> that is an interesting question because i do, you know, this ising comes up quite a bit. i think there is a line. people should, we have freedom religion in this country. i think people should be able to practice their religion, express their religion. express areas of their faith without reprisal.

i think that pendulum sometimes swings the other way in the name of political correctness. i think the president and the vice president both understand that one ever the things that makes our country and this democracy so freight is our ability to express our religion, to believe in faith, to express it, and to live by it. that is where i think the important part is. whether it's a small business owner or an employee, he wants to have some degree of expression of faith with the company. too often those voices get, you know, pushed out in the name of political correctness. he will continue to make sure we speak up for it and find ways to keep the line a little less blurred and make sure the pendulum doesn't swing against people -- we shouldn't impose religion on anybody. we're free to express our religion or be, you know not have one. that is under our in our country and equally valid way of living your life. but at the same time, i think people who want to express their

faith, shouldn't be ostracized because they want to live that. major? >> give us an example, if you could, of a pendulum swinging in the direction of political correctness and how is that going to inform the president with his executive order? a draft is circulating around town. many wonder if that is going to be away to either silence those on the left or be a threat to lgbt community. talk us through both those. >> i think if you you look back little sisters case, if you look back to other usinesses that were under obama -- >> would you put hobby lobby in that category? >> i would. several businesses and several institutions. catholic institutions and others that have been mandated or apparently attempted to mandate certain things that they may or may not do or how they have to treat their employees. those are instances where clearly the pendulum is swinging a different way, where you're not carving out institutions or the ability much privately-held

businesses to conduct themselves to live according to their faith or their moral compass. so, there is clearly a lot of evidence in the last couple years of the government coming in with regulations and policies that have frankly denied people the ability to live according to their faith. >> president's point of view that is discriminatory itself? >> i think there is like i said, there is a pendulum. the president wants to make sure you don't penalize someone for wanting to express their faith. to the extent we keep the line a little less blurred and people who don't believe in faith or have opposing faith they are equally comfortable in the work place. we shouldn't penalize people or mandate them to abide certain policies or regulations direct contribution shun to their faith. >> what about the executive order, sean. >> there is right now no executive orders are official or able to read out. we maintain that. there are, there is nothing new on that front. i'm not, until we have, it is not a question, there are a lot of ideas being floated out. i mentioned this the last couple

days but that doesn't mean, part of it as the president does all the time. he asks for input. he asks for ideas. on variety of subjects there are staffing procedures that go on where people have, i thought or an idea it goes through the process. but until the president makes up his mind and gives feedback, decide that is final. there is nothing going out. >> thank you. in light of tragedy that happened in quebec city last week which prime minister trudeau is calling a act of terrorism, what is the president doing, what initiatives is he taking to make sure that that kind of home-grown, he was canadian citizen, homegrown terrorism, home -- doesn't happen within our country? >> there is a lot of things. number one he talked, looking at it from every angle. i think the first thing we make sure look at our borders. you have to protect your own people first. then you look at the cyber threats. there is a holistic approach to both immigration and there is a direct nexus between immigration

an national security and personal security that he has to look at. then it's a multitiered step. you look at the borders. you look who we're letting in. you look what we're doing internally with our intelligence agencies and the fbi to make sure we're looking at whether it is cyber threats that we face or other terrorist activities but making sure we're working with the nsa and the fbi to be ahead of the curve if you will. >> if i may, these are homegrown -- >> right. >> oklahoma city was american kid. >> sure. >> that is what i'm saying but i think part of it is looking at using the assets that we have here, nsa, fbi, looking at using the different agencies to see if we can get ahead of the curve and see things. a lot of times that has been a very big issue, getting made of the curve for telltale signs. reporting systems being up and working with various agencies. this is multieffort process if you will. >> sean, thank you. why is the administration using sanctions against russia.

>> we're not using sanctions. treasury department, i understand, it is a fairly common practice for the treasury department after sanctions are put in place to go back and to look at whether or not there needs to be specific carveouts for different, you know, either industries or productsor services that need to be going back and forth. i would refer you book to the treasury department on that one. >> hold on, sean, the language on the treasury department website suggests that you are in fact easing sanctions, authorizing certain transactions with the federal security service. does that not suggest a shift from -- >> no it doesn't. regular course of action treasury does quite often when there are sanctions imposed. i would refer you back to the treasury department. >> thank you. could i ask you to describe the -- australian prime minister and the president and also outline the president's concerns about the refugees in question.

i asked you earlier but could you clarify whether the deal is on or not because the president tweeted last night, i will study this deal, implying that -- >> right. the president had a very cordial conversation with prime minister how many belt, where they went through an extensive discussion of this deal. the president is unbelievably disappointed in the previous administration's deal that was made and how poorly it was crafted. the threat to national security put the united states in. he has tremendous respect for the prime minister and for the australian people and agreed to continue to review that deal and to insure as part of the deal, which was always part of it, we would go through very, very extreme vetting process to insure that every single person that is being offered up is coming here with peaceful intentions and poses no threat

to the united states. so he is insured that while he has respect for the australian people and respect for prime minister trumbull, we do not pose a threat to the united states of america, that the deal he, was cut by the lasted a administration is something he extremely, extremely upset with. he does not like it. but out of respect for him he is going to allow that process to continue to study it and, under the conditions had been set that there will be extreme vetting on every single one of those individuals. >> just for clarity, the deal itself is still under review so it is not certain to proceed? >> yeah, part of the deal was that, the deal allows for the united states to vet the individuals that are being offered up to be processed. the president's goal is to make sure that every single one of those people in accordance with the deal and is discussed in the telephone conversation with the prime minister is subject to extreme vetting, to insure that

no one -- but i can not underscore how disappointed he was in the deal that was made and how he thought it was just a horrible deal that was offered up by the united states, by this previous administration. sara? >> the president and his national security advisor -- administration wants to put iran on notice but you haven't specified what that is. what options are on the table and are there any options like military action that might be off the table at this point? >> so i think general flynn was really clear yesterday, that iran has, violated the joint resolution. that iran's additional hostile actions it took against our navy vessel are ones we are very clear are not going to sit by and take. i think that we will have further updates for you on those additional actions but clearly wanted to make sure iran understood they are on notice this is not going unresponded to. john? >> thank you very much. >> thank you. yes. >> [inaudible]. >> right. that's right.

>> john, sorry. >> thank you, sean. on january 27th at the republican can retreat in philadelphia vice president pence had a closed-door meeting with house republicans where several of them brought up the case of irs commissioner john koskinen. there was an attempt to impeach him last year which some of the leadership in the house felt was unfair to the commissioner and they urged him to tell the president that given his entire record he should fire him or ask for his resignation soon. my sources said the vice president said, i can hear you. is there any pending action on the fate of commissioner koskinen? >> i have nothing to update you on. hallly. >> yemen, initially described raid over the weekend as successful raid by the administration. there are questions about the possibility of additional civilian casualties. i have a couple of questions for you on this one. would you still stand by your characterization the raid is

successful? was the president given multiple options about this raid or just one? and were there consultations with prior administration's national security officials, military officials about the raid moving forward. >> actually, i would like to walk through that. i appreciate you bringing this up. there is, let's go you the ticktock on that raid. on november 7th, centcom submitted the plan to dod. clearly that was under the lasted a administration. legal terms were involved immediately when it was submitted to dod. on december 19 thisthe plan was approved by department of defense and moved ahead. it was sent to the national security council staff in the white house. again this all happened under the previous administration. on january 6th, there was inner agency deputy's meeting. the deputies recommended at that time they go ahead. it was so easily approved it was sent straight up. the conclusion to halt, hold for a moonless night. which by calendar wouldn't occur until then president-elect trump

was president trump. on january 24th, shortly after taking office secretary of defense then mattis read the memo. resent it back up to the white house conveying his support. on the 25th of january. the president was briefed by general flynn on secretary mattis's recommendation. the status of the operation or potential operation. president asked to see secretary mattis and joint chiefs of staff dunford. he then on that evening had a dinner meeting which include the president, the vice president, secretary mattis, chairman dunford, chief of staff priebus, jared kushner, chief strategist bannon, general kellogg, general flynn and cia director pompeo. where the operation was laid out, in great extent. the indication at that time was to go ahead on friday the 2th in the morning the deputy's committee met again. it was not a necessary step because they previously recommended. also reapfirmed their support for that.

the on january 26th the president signed the memo authorizing the action. it was very, not only very, very thought-out process by this administration it, started back in november 7th, in terms, clearly well before that, but it was move forward by centcom on november 7th. this was a very, very well--thought out and executed effort. >> where was the p the united of the raid? how did he learn about chief owens' death and do you stand by your characterization it was successful. >> the president was here in the residence. kept in touch with national security staff and secretary mattis and others kept him updated on the raid and death of chief owens and four other individuals injured. he was kept aprizeed the situation throughout the evening. and, again, i think, i would go back to what i said yesterday. it is hard to ever call something a complete success when you have the loss of life or people injured. but i think when you look at the totality of what was gained to

prevent the future loss of life here in america, and against our people and our institutions and probably throughout the world in terms of what some of these individuals could have done, i think it is, it is, it's a successful operation by all standards. it is and again i want to reiterate. it is tough to ever use the word success when you know that somebody has lost their life but when you go back and look at an individual, that dedicated their life to serving this country and went over and over and over again, knowing this was risk he wanted to take and knew the threat these individuals posed to our country and to our people, you know, that while not a success you lost him you know he died in sacrifice for someone else here in nation. hunter walker. >> thank you, sean. i have seen some criticism of the president's remarks at the prayer breakfast this morning. can you shed any light why he

tho that was a good venue to mock "the apprentice" for its ratings? >> mark burnett, creator of "the apprentice" a long time supporter of prayer breakfast has a personal relationship was there. he meant it at lighthearted moment. if you look at totality of his remarks they were absolutely beautiful. and i think to hone in on that, it was a lighthearted moment he was trying to have with a big supporter of the national prayer breakfast and personal friend. guys i will be out tomorrow. i want to make sure we all get to see the president now. thank you, guys. bye-bye. >> why pick a fight with australia. neil: all right. that was short and, not always sweet here, one of the things that came up, a revelation we were getting wind of, some sanctions against russia have been eased up a little bit. the white house is sying it is not easing sanctions against russia. no shift in policy started with the treasury. but what we are finding out from

the treasury some sanctions against russia, specifically licensing cybersecurity sales to so-called russian federal security service, successor, i guess their kgb, have gone through. now whether they were affected by, or stopped prior by president obama when he slapped sanctions on russia and then upped the ante by removing 45 russian diplomats in response to hacking our election, the last presidential election back in november, that we don't know. but we do know that, this white house does not see this as a roll-back of sanctions, simply because the new president's in town, new administration is in town, they found the tough approach wasn't warranted. this is different matter. eye of the beholder here. connell mcshane on this. fox news radio show host tom sullivan on this. connell, one thing came through

loud and clear, there are still concerns here about how this administration is communicating, and how the word is getting out on australia, for example and did he hang up, the phone on the australian prime minister over this hostage deal which he was not familiar. notice how quickly the price news briefing ended when they shifted the arnold schwarzenegger remarks at the program is today.

these things serve as distractions whether they come because the administration has brought them up and are self-inflicted or the administration would of media coverage. instead of talking about the earlier conversation, tax reform, we love to see discussed more things like this. obviously, this really a situation is one that is somewhat serious at the back alley of united states and what the relationship will be like going forward. i don't know. >> on that australian refugee deal, whatever you want to call it, we are told that president trump is still going to allow that deal over the refugees to continue. australia wanted to kick them out, sent them off to different locales outside of australia. we apparently agreed to accept th. but he is ging and demanding extreme vetting of those

refugees, which you assume would've been the case prior. apparently not. if the president getting a fair break on this because if that was new to him at startling to him, take were getting. why would you not want extreme dieting in our country? >> that is the communication team and that trump administration has a tough job on their hands. where, when, how, all of that we don't know. we don't know from what country they are from. we don't know where they are going to be vetted off of australia or brought some place in the united states. it goes back to what you been talking about, the whole show which is the communication gaps and updates to the market even though we send back to basically break even. uncertainty is absolutely detested. i don't care what you come up with, just give us the rules and

figure out how to work with them. >> of course uncertainty up until very recently if we were going to get big tax can. at the very least, its immediacy isn't so sure, pushed back likely this summer, late summer. and that is not going down well, is that? >> the way paul ryan talked about it at the time in a budget does push it out, and it was happening even earlier today and talking about trade again. they may be a trade deal that needs to be redone. when priorities are there opposed to tax cuts, you have at least a message acrs. sean spicer said himself that quote, unquote extreme vetting within the original deal.

that goes back to communication. maybe this is the definition of what extreme vetting and extreme vetting as it may want to take another look at this. neil: i heard that, too. what isn't clear maybe this gets back to communication, which is your point as well. he clearly didn't know about it. maybe that was one of these intelligence briefings he skipped out on as president-elect. i think one thing the media source did. but he was unaware and now he's saying wait a minute, you didn't want these guys, so now we have been and not sons -- sounds. more it interested me was how it leaked out and it leaked out through someone at the state and that is the case then you have said the pilot immediately folks at the state department. he could be taken over by christmas to people who weren't too happy to see him or his administration. >> i'll tell you, rex tillerson

talk with the state department personnel today absolutely had it perfect, right out of the ballpark. was very calm, reassuring purity address field and in the room of people at the state department were not for president trump. the idea without a leader they are making the things that the state department did not get passed on. because they were last-minute in the above administration, a couple hundred million dollars being sent to the palestinians. who did that? it was on the last day of the above administration. in transition has got to give some great area in there, but also the fact with the delays in the cabinet officers. you have a gap in later shape. the >> we've been discussing it nowhere to go with their runoff attack after president trump's election.

maybe this is an excuse to style, whatever. i do find it interesting, you know, connell mcshane, that we have donald trump talking about trade deals. paul ryan talking about logistics in the house and how the budget process as such we have to finish our immediate before we think about some other issues. if the republicans themselves have some sorting out to do, they've got messes they appeared >> for one thing -- >> that was the means by which you pay for it. >> is that a trillion dollars? whatever it is over 10 years. if you are paying for the tax cuts, and a different way than not, how are you doing it if that's not popular with corporate america, many kind of republicans in the congress. you have to come up with a different way to do that.

if you have to work out, pushes out the timing more appeared not to go crazy, as you were saying, it's not like they're crashing here. but that is maybe where the level of concern comes from but i think that's legitimate. >> you know, this whole thing about people talking about chump time and commerce is running on congress time, two different speeds. it could be some speculate the fact maybe donald trump is basically doing this to keep his political adversaries off balance. he is moving fast. or is that just the way business people work as fast? regaless you've got these in the air. wall street sitting there scratching their head going we can't keep up with all the different things he is not going which one will take a tax hike? which one will take a tax cut? neil: we don't know. thank you very much. in the meantime, talked about the harley-davidson event at the

white house. there was a back and forth as to whether he would go out to harley-davidson where they came to him. the idea of being ceos representatives from the u.s. manufacturers and many gathering with the who's who of the technology world thank you world. this is what happens in the tennessean for the last roughly two weeks for the administration. someone else has had an opportunity to meet with the president. the national federation of independent. she met with the president yesterday and i guess i'll just ask you what i ask others, how did the meeting go for stuff. so you tell me. >> well, thank you for having me. i was deeply honored the president was at the white house

yesterday to talk about support for his supreme court nominee, judge gorsuch. the president has an intimate understanding of the nominations process. i was very impressed. this is a great nominee for small business. neil: you brought up some aspects of the judge that i didn't realize. why is he something that would be perfect for your industry? >> for one thing, he is a record of sticking to the law. he does not have a record of bush in the law for different or impose his own views 36 of the law. we think that's important from the regulatory stance. nfib with the organization that tried to overturn obamacare if the supreme court. we know how important when judges. we think he has the proper days. he is very skeptical of something called the chevron doctrine. the chevron doctrine was adopted by the court and its deference to the agencies to interpret the

law. this has led to an avalanche of radiation that we believe way beyond the statutory limit. this has been a horrible problem for small business. judge gorsuch is very skeptical of the chevron doctrine. i can't overestimate. neil: up in a little bit further. you go beyond what was necessary. agencies off and try to expand their own authority by stretching beyond the congress wrote. going beyond what congress wanted. currently fighting against multiple regulatory agencies, which are facing oftentimes outdoing each other are often duplicates is. what makes you think when supreme court justice could or would change that. >> we know the difference one judge can make based on our

experience has been named plaintiff in the obamacare case. we think it's very important for judges to be appointed and not just as judge, but future judges who are skeptical of the chevron doctrine. we know it only takes one judge. neil: a few -- it looks like tax cuts might be delayed if they come to pass here at all. i don't want to be cynical. more likely regulatory action uld not be delayed. >> the president has already started an aggressive assault on overregulation. this executive order from last week, we applaud. neil: which is more important to you? >> i don't think you can say one is more important than the other. when we issue our problems and priorities report, taxes, regulation and health care are the three top problems for business. we would like to have both. we will take either one. the president is living by himself on regulatory reform.

congress passes on mechanisms that needs to follow. i always thought it was too ambitious to get a tax bill out by march or april. i'm not surprised. i don't feel defeated at all. i think they will get tax reform plan. the president is smart and using his own authority. as so many things he can do aloud without congress to deregulate. i'm pleased to see is not wasting any time. neil: will watch very closely. very good having you on. >> thanks for having me. neil: a couple quick news developments. the white house on iran and the ballistic missile test that got a lot of can earn. between that and the actions iran has taken against the navy vessels. it will not go, and i quote, i'm responded to. that issue of coors they have been put on notice. we still don't know what that means orbit action the

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asked why we did this refugee deal. the president didn't know anything about it and wondered how it entertained such a deal that this would require heavy petting and will be heavily padded, but he doesn't want that in the way of a constructive relationship. he's also indicating he will honor all such deals and in honoring the previous administration, you want to step back and look at what was put together. he is looking at still betting that in trying to understand the refugees and those rejected by australia would be scooped up by us. it was sort of like a cuban people deal and that got a lot of folks angry because the cuban government was dumping there were settlements on us and early

critics included an arkansas governor named bill clinton. donald trump wants to make sure. also, getting word that whenever i ran dead, the administration on the ballistic missile test and said that ballistic missile test does not violate our nuclear agreement or for that matter any of the u.n. resolutions and obviously president trump feels otherwise. their actions against navy vessels do not go on responded to. it will not go on responded to. that is the white house. there is a new sheriff in town, the ballot also mean mean it's going to be a new way to respond to this. what do you think it is?

>> iran and the supreme leader. they've all said we are going to answer to any threats. this is a country where they have state-sponsored streets were they claim death to america. this is a country that 50% of the population doesn't even use toilet paper. do you think they care about litigation or contracts? neil: i think you're right about that. just not out another update. obviously that means something of the military major is off the table, too. >> it should. make all the threats are not, but iran will not take it seriously until we do something. i do want to jump to military action, we should wipe one of those missile test site that test site up with a test site up with a severe than they might get the message. and we do that, they want take it seriously. neil: sometimes this could be the red line in the sand barack obama hot.

they might revisit sanctions. that may be a first step. but then what? would we risk shall they not only entire deal or what? would you think we should do? >> is set to make from the general fund is far more intelligent than me and i think if you put something on notice, i think that what i would do if i was in charge here, i would immediately reimpose the sanctions are not start militarily targeting those missile sites, the ones they said were not going to do this and did it anyway. they can't be trusted. they proved that time and time again. we would have to destroy something to send the message we are not here to play around. neil: i would think the iranians are deliberately provocative. under multiple administrations.

they'll try something with one of ourhips in the straitf hormuz arousedy her, onef our military, you know, if we don't respond to that in a military way, the feeling seems to be the sanctions don't measure up to the adequate response. >> what we need to do especially the strait of her most than stuff like that, we need to let soldiers know that there's no and vessels and establishments know how far they can go. we need to start that i never need to deliver on it. if the next time those bows to pressure shifts of aggressive posture, we need to blow them out of the water and tell them this is not the barack obama administration. if they don't like it, they can get on the horse and get out of the way. neil: dairies that, karl. thank you very much. you'd be clear as president i have a feeling. thank you very much.

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neil: you know, a lot of cases of intolerance of the left. we've just been adding about you think of what we have seen just the last couple of days. democrats boycotting the cabinet hearing, promising to filibuster. the supreme court tag that

writing at berkeley over a speech by bright art editor, i cannot thought the even being done. 70 democrats who sat out the inaugurations. thousands more protest and that same inoculation. on and on and on. again, if this were the other way around, maybe it wouldn't have been, but it would've been expected. politics contributor in july latest medications director under president obama, corey e. lines. do you think that this is now just childish.ts go back and say republicans do this to us at rock obama supreme court. too much or now? >> first of all, thanks for having me on. it is unfortunate we are in the place we are now, but it's very easy to connect the dots and understand how we got here. neil: we are not leaving you. just to the white house right now and donald trump's became

about some of these issues. >> thank you furled the vote you gave me. i thought we were going to win it from the beginning. the american servicemembers in the water and the worse they take your police officers i see so often, whenever there's a motorcycle group, oftentimes it's a harley and the sound of that is a little different. so thank you, harley davidson for building things in america. i think you even expand. your business is now doing very well. there's a lot of spirit right now in the country that you are having so much in the last number of that you have right now. you see what is happening. i'm especially honored to welcome steelworkers and machinist to the white house. who is this steelworker?

you are all steelworkers? you folks have been terrific to me. a lot of your top people didn't support me. they are all coming around. but the workers supported us big-league. we want to make it easier to create more jobs in the united states and europe great example. that means they have to make america the best country on earth to do -- we do not do. we are doing a lot of our trade deals and we are negotiating with countries, even countries take advantage of that. a lot of countries take advantage of the government really terribly taken advantage of as. one instance in australia, i love the strata as a country, but a problem where for whatever reason, president obama had they were going to take probably well

over 1000 illegal immigrant in prison when they were going to bring them and take them into this country. i can ask that question why. 1250, could be 2000. could be more than not. i said why are we doing this? what is the purpose? so we'll see what happens. previous administration does something. you have to respect that. you can also say, why are we doing this? that is why we are in the jams we are in. you guys especially, the steelworkers -- [inaudible] we have some wonder for allies and we are going to keep it that way. we have to be treated fairly also. we have to be treated fairly. and this administration, our allegiance will be to the american workers and american businesses like then and we are very strong.

in the 1980s, you are the dems a big trading abuse, where they were dumping all sorts of competitors all over the place and ronald reagan stepped in and he put out large terrace and you wouldn't be talking about harley davidson probably right now if he didn't do that. but we are going to help you and make a really great for business. not just you, but for everybody. we will be competitive with anybody in the world. very soon it will be coming out. i know health care is a big problem for every company. every company is now suffering because of this tremendous cause. that is one of the things we're working on hardest. back in tax policy and tariffs and trade. i think he will be very happy. it's an honor to have you at lunch. i appreciate your support. you've given me tremendous support. you workers in particular have given tremendous support. i want to thank the people of

wisconsin in particular it's been amazing what happened up there. that was a big shocker that evening. i'll never forget wisconsin, especially that guy right there. what is going on, wisconsin must for trump and michigan went for trump and so just great people. these are amazing people and they get it. again, to all of you at the table, thank you very much. we really appreciate it. thank you. [inaudible] [inaudible] neil: that was interesting.

this is the opportunity to meet with harley davidson team that came to the white house in their fancy-schmancy motorcycles and all, that he wants to look out for them and companies like them and keep jobs in the united states. he did refer to this tit-for-tat with the australians, but doesn't let this agreement the prior administration apparently made to take a break of 1500, some say 1700, some more than 2000 refugees and that we would take them here. so you want that thoroughly vetted and plans are being thoroughly vetted. you might've heard him make a brief reference to iran and keeping our options open. we don't know what they are, but is considering anything and everything to respond to the missile test. back with angela barbie dell and corey e. lines. are you good? i rudely interrupted you before. that may go back to you, that

what the president is trying to do here is all about jobs. everything comes back, he says, with harley davidson or other ceos in the pharmaceutical industry and a host of industries. union leaders as well. jobs, jobs, jobs. how does that resonate? >> anything this president wants to do to continue the record job growth 10 to 15 million jobs created through his administration. private sector job growth, longest in american history. i'm all for that. neil: is a fairly weak recovery. a lot of those are part-time jobs are lower paying jobs. better than we were, you are quite right. you want to do better than that. >> the consistent message veered from the obama administration of the course of those figures is here we are come but you got to do better. 750,000 jobs a month were losing when president obama came to office. it took time for policies to get

into place. once in place and locked into the foundation, we saw job growth takeoff. we need to do better and we are going to do better. let's take a moment quickly to look at what just happened. we had one of the iconic american companies in our country having to come to donald trump, president donald trump at the white house because this president is sequestered in the white house because they don't want him to come to their company in wisconsin because of fear of protests. this is the commission the president has set up himself. neil: i think you're being a little bit petty. i know where you're coming from. i know it you're saying about it could've gone there. >> we are talking -- neil: angela, what i'm wondering is what will come regardless of the news. they appeared more hired here

and not lose jobs to foreign countries. how affect will he be at that? it's one thing to talk about that. >> so far has been extremely affect it. if you look what's happening with harley davidson but also at amazon and several other very large companies choosing to keep jobs in the united states because it's a new day, new administration in this one has pledged to be very business friendly. what is interesting here is president trump might have great job growth, but that is not what will make him a two-term president. what will make this man a two-term president is that we saw at the you see berkeley campus last night, which was a riot. it is a complete left-wing freak out that the rest of the country is completely turned off by it. they called it a violent protests. at the time i come it's not a protest. at that point it's a riot. if you go to stand united.org, you can sign a petition to take away federal funding from you

see berk way. there's a petition by the sanctuary campus. neil: that might be going a little far. i want to get your thought on those protests this is a position, this is a area where the president did this to himself. you heard him just there in that conversation with harley-davidson. he is still talking about the campaign, and combative tone of the campaign has carried into the white house. he is making war and losing friends and that is bipartisan notion. neil: nothing thing to say that kind of stuff and another thing

we saw the protest where they're lighting fires. in the case of berkeley where it gets pretty violent. there is a difference right? >> there is a difference, but -- neil: you have to be offended by that right? >> that is the national, this is representation of the national concern about what president trump has done thus far. right? neil: no. i like to think this is the exception to the rule but i think a few people who don't like the election, whatever reason, maybe popular vote thing versus electoral vote, this is, ridiculous. i think you would agree this is overstated. >> can't bring those things to the side. these folks are executing first amendment right to free speech. neil: this is not free speech. this is isn't free speech. angela, what message are you worried this is sending? >> sure, the signal is, when this section of the left-wing doesn't get what they want, they get violent. if you're on a college campus and you are so threatened and feel so threatened by an opposing viewpoint you start

launching fireworks at library, you do not belong on a college campus that should be free marketplace of thought. that message sent bit riots is not concern. concern is thinking, you know, maybe we ought to do something about that. i never have been so concerned that i light something on fire. >> trump administration we had record numbers about protests against this president because people are offended by -- neil: they haven't given it a chance. wouldn't you want to save it until he has done stf to get you ticked off, righ >> i'm sorry. neil. i couldn't hear you what was that? neil: he hasn't even done anything yet he has gone nuts. >> that is not fair. the man signed record numbers about executive orders since he has been in office to be sure. i understand that is notion came from the campaign. neil: compared to barack obama signing executive orders. >> say again, i'm sorry. neil: what if conservatives acted up and had these kind of protests these kind of

responses, skipped out on meetings and event in barack obama signing some executive orders? >> neil, we had this level of obstruction in the previous administration. neil: we had nothing like that. we had nothing like this. >> show me a tea party riot? the you can't. there isn't one. >> unprecedented, record numbers of protests against this president. we're less than two weeks into the administration. neil. neil: tea party. martha washington and george washington and outside -- >> merrick garland. didn't even get a hearing. he didn't get a hearing. prosecuted oklahoma city case. neil: that is the tit-for-tat. i see where this is going. thank you both, very, very much. the read on this fallout on this from a former attorney general says, mr. president, you might want to go slow, advocating some of these deals after this. me those shares, you know? he ran that company. i get it. but you know i think you own too much.

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neil: welcome back, everybody. white house, we're getting word, the president and that phone call with the australian prime minister we're told did not end well. some say the president hung up with the prime minister over a deal with the refugees that the australians didn't want and unloaded on us or planned to unload on us. president trump says he knew nothing about it. it was concocted under the predecessor, it was horrible, horrible deal. will he honor the deal just the same? it will be vetted fully, the same with the iranian nuclear deal he is calling into question right now. it is a big deal if you try to undo deals in the international community. who knows that better than the former attorney general under bush 41 bill barr. let me ask you about that. let's say the president assesses agreement with the australians, that we would accept this 1500,

2,000 refugees they didn't want to and take them this is stupid, i can't do this. what does he risk in doing that? >> well, there is no legal risk because this is not a treaty. neil: right. >> but obviously he risks the credibility of the united states in trying to arrive at future deals with other countries. now i thi he what he is really driving at here this, is a situation, we take our share of refugees as a country, and that has been expanding under president obama. this is a group of people who have been rejected by australia, and obama stepped in and said okay, we'll take them. and, if that, does that mean from now on, countries that don't take refugees the united states will step in and take those refugees?s just a one-shol that we negotiated with australia? i think what the president is

trying to do, lay down a marker. this is not our modus operandi. we'll not step in and take up all the refugees that other countries are not wanting to take. neil: he apparently claims he didn't know about this deal. i'm hearing from other sources that he did or administration was apprised it and is sick project in the phone call -- subject of the phone call. is this the i can iranian nuclear deal, what is the danger no, i can't honor this, this is crazy? >> i think the danger is our bilateral relations with australia and our credibility with other countries. australia along with the united kingdom is our closest ally. they have always stood conflict with -- neil: he should keep it, though he hates it he should keep it? >> i think he definitely should keep it. but also do what he is doing which is, just as his executive

order does, require vetting of these people to make sure that terrorists are not insinuated into the united states through this channel. neil: let's switch to iran then. now that was an agreement between our countries and even the most conservative senators have been telling me there is a danger with just nullifying that. what would be the danger? >> well the danger would be that you know, we would lose the support of our allies and the international community in our efforts to block the iranians from developing nuclear weapons. neil: so, if we find there are a lot of kinks in this deal it looks like -- we say the iranians violated the deal with the missile test. they say they didn't can. it wasn't nuclear. i don't want to get caught in the weeds, sir, if the feeling is that would be justification to make it null and void, you're argument there is still the same danger in doing, in doing that,

right, in quitting that? >> there is substantial risk and in backing out of the deal at this point but by the same token, i don't have the intelligence the president has what is actually going on, degree of compliance and other areas where you know, they're acting in a hostile manner to the united states. neil: lastly, on these executive orders, you know, this president is undoing a lot of his predecessor's executive orders with his own executive orders. what legal standing do they have over time? what is the shelf life on some of this stuff? >> well the shelf life on an executive order is simply the life that it has until someone changes the executive order. neil: or a court could call it into question. >> a court could strike down an executive order that ordered something that was unconstitutional. now i hasten to say that is not

the case with the immigration executive order which i think was a reasonable order and, to me, clearly legal. neil: so, this back and forth, and i'm, whether the is going beyond his legal authority, what do you think? >> the law couldn't be clearer and it's always been the case that the president can suspend immigration from any country or group of countries or group of aliens or all aliens if he felt it posed a threat to the united states. that his constitutional duty and it is explicit in the statute. so i think he clearly was on safe ground doing this. the critics are coming along saying this is an anti-muslim band, to me that is a frivolous argument on its face. it applies to only seven of 49 arab-muslim countries. less than 12% of the world's muslim population.

those countries -- what were the selection criteria to target those cotries? it is clear. these are six of the countries are countries where these extreme terrorist organizations actually control territory and are beyond the reach of the security services of those governments that are combating those groups. the other, iran, is a sponsor of terrorism. the rest of the world, we have intelligence service, police services, egyptians, saudis, so forth we can work with. but those seven countries pose the greatest risk and he has suspended immigration from those countries until we can set up a program, a vetting program to insure that people who are not terrorists are coming into the united states. this is done in the face of specific intelligence that that is exactly the objective the terrorists organizations, to insinuate terrorists in the united states, so our streets become like belgium and germany

under domestic siege. he is trying to prevent that. i think it's a reasonable step. neil: and which you mentioned there, if you were going to have a muslim ban, you include all 49 countries with all majority muslim populations. he did not do that. good having you, bill barr. >> yep. neil: the president also wants to change nafta, the north american free-trade agreement. he wants to completely visit. it is done trade law we're told. apparently not. he wants a complete revamp after this. hey nicole. hey! i just wanted to thank your support team for walking me through my first options trade. we only do it for everyone gary. well, i feel pretty smart. well, we're all about educating people on options strategies. well, don't worry, i won't let this accomplishment go to my head. i'm still the same old gary. wait, you forgot your french dictionary. , mucho gracias.

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>> elimination of nafta or a brand new nafta but we do have to make it fair. it is very unfair to the american worker and very, very

unfair to companies that do business in this country. neil: maybe it was just confluence of events, timing of this, but as soon as we heard the president of the united states talking about revisiting nafta, shortly after hearing from speaker paul ryan about repeal and replace the health care law and how that is cumbersome, sort of a cumbersome act and not really talking about tax cuts until late summer, maybe if then, the markets started dipping. not dramatically so. but is their favorite thing they are looking forward to being delayed to gerri willis who is crunch those possibilities. gerri,onder wall stree looking for something they have been looking for since the election might not pan out. what do you think? >> i'm reminded of that '70s commercial, where's the beef?

where is my tax cuts, where is my regulatory reform? what are you going to do with me. they want it now. i have been in touch with ways and means committee. they continue the that nothing is derailing this. kevin brady will speak on the very topic again. because they insist on it doesn't mean it is coming today or tomorrow or next week or certainly not even in the first 100 days. that is what we've learned over the last few days talking to sources on this very topic. let me tell you, what i hear, what you're hearing, of course obamacare coming first. but when you peel back the covers on that, neil, what you find is that obamacare is nowhere. the committee that is dealing with obamacare doesn't even want to put anything forward because they're afraid of the reaction they're going to get from the president. so everything seems to be in stasis you but i have to tell you report you the facts here. what i'm being told about it ways and means committee they're working on the legislation for tax reform at this very moment. the chairman of the committee

will address this tomorrow. neil: hope springs eternal like you say but a lot of this has to do, to me at least, with them not communicating properly with each other. this happens in washington all the time. this happens in life all the time. what are we talking about? they were not aware, republicans are not aware that the president was very keen when it came to obamacare, repealing and replacing it, almost simultaneously, so they were caught off-guard there. they were caught off-guard with this thing on ethics committee. that was a nonstarter. so i think now, when it came to tax cuts and one of the ways they would pay for them with this border tax and they thought they had would raise a trillion dollar10 years what was, they thought they had a way to go along here. then they come to find out the president wasn't keen on it, a lot of this might have been as simple as poorly communicated on both sides, right? >> you know there is this thing these days called the cell phone, right? picking it up and talking to people is good way to go.

everybody is guilty of this. we're all guilty. there is not a lot of great communication. neil: not with speaker ryan or mitch mcconnell. >> happens all the time. neil: ronald reagan, that was summer event and retroactive, but it was laser like focus throughout the process. >> it could happen. we're talking about no, no, but it absolutely could happen. let me tell you what is going on in the markets. optimism we've seen from ceos and others, that dissipates. that goes away, if we don't think we're getting something. neil: all right. >> asking the questions, neil, for you. neil: you always do. appreciate it, gerri. >> you're welcome. neil: gerri willis on that. the process might still be on. maybe comes up with a big pow-wow at the white house tomorrow, yeah, another one. after this.

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goes at the corner of wall and broad. this one featuring jamie dimon. other business execs include robert iger from disney to ashley webster in for trish. >> i am indeed. here we go. what a crazy, busy day, like that every day, neil, it's how we love it. the new normal i think. thank you very much, neil. president trump saying he is not easing sanctions on russia, and, oh,y the way, he says nothing is off the table when it comes to iran. those comments after the president met with execs of harley-davidson at the white house. it has been a packed day of action, i'm ashley webster in this afternoon for trish regan. welcome everyone, to "the intelligence report". president trump's tough talk comes as he voices serious concerns about nafta. saying the current trade agreement is not fair and says it's time for change. president trump vowing since the start of his campaign, we