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loan growth is picking up. these are all very positive indicators. [closing bell rings] liz: the balloons are rising up. we are releasing the balloons. all five averages end the day in record territory. we want to thank brent speak fell. neuberger berman. great job. david, melissa, what an hour. neil: the dow surging to end at another brand new high for the third day in row. happy monday, i'm david asman. melissa: i'm melissa francis this is "after the bell." we have you covered on the big market movers. here what we have for you this next hour. the fight for president trump's temporary travel ban. there is an appeal to last week east decision. we'll have more on the developing story. when trudeau meets trump.
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the president around canadian prime minister the together. trump called the north american free trade deal a catastrophe. we'll tell you what he has to say about it. backlash of another strom dropping ivanka trump's brand. he says he is not shopping at nordstrom ever again. david: he is coming here. we look forward to that. markets continue to soar up more than 140 points. the dow is up more than 2,000 points since donald trump was he elected. >> wow. david: paul krugman. take that. straight to adam shapiro on floor of new york stock exchange. adam, apple pushing the dow a lot higher, closing at a new record as well today. >> that is correct. it just settled. first new record in two years. you see the closing price. tell how the markets performed since the election. the dow is up actually%.
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nasdaq is up 11 1/2%. apple got a big boost when it was leaked that iphone 8 would have wireless charging capabilities an augmented reality. that is the fancy viewers. perhaps 3d imaging on its viewer. not only apple get boost but suppliers. taiwan semiconductor, qualcomm, all up things in part to the boost from apple. some financials getting a big boost today. jpmorgan chase up 1.4%. pnc up 1.17. hasbro, the toy-maker last week boeing gangbusters with great earnings report. they were up a little over a half of a percent. verizon dealing with competition from t-mobile and sprint which have unlimited data. as of today, verizon offering unlimited data plan. first time since 2011. that stock was up almost 1% today, david. david: thanks very much. adam shapiro.
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melissa. melissa: president trump meeting today with canadian prime minister justin trudeau emphasizing although the trade relationship with our northern neighbor is better than mexico there is still a lot of work to be done. fox business's blake burman is in d.c. with the latest this one. they looked very cordial, very warm, very friendly, yes? reporter: this was like a ho-hum news conference a little bit. both of them playing nice with each other. justin trudeau, prime minister of canada, president trump. all of sudden news made at end when president trump started talking about nafta. as you mentioned, the president has, the candidate with president railed against it for better portion of 18 months. he was asked whether or not the impact, some sort of renegotiation or starting all together would be major or minimal for canada. he made it appear, the president did that the consequences of a renegotiation would be much more significant for mexico than it would for canada.
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take a listen to the president this afternoon. we have very outstanding trade relationship with canada. we'll be tweaking it. we'll be doing certain things that will benefit both of our countries. it's a much less severe situation than what is taking place on the southern border. on the southern border for many, many years, the transaction was not fair to the united states. it is extremely unfair transaction. we're going to work with mexico. we'll make it a fair deal for both parties. reporter: you heard it there. a tweak for canada. much more severe on the southern border for mexico. interesting to pass along, melissa, justin trudeau was here. mexico's president, enrique pena nieto was supposed to be here during the second week of the trump administration. that blew up overpayment of the border wall which could complicate everything or a lot of it for a nafta redo. melissa: complicated it any further is what we need. thank you very much.
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david: i would say. multicomly indicated. we have steve cortes, and list peek of fiscal -- liz peek from the "fiscal times." canada is reeling from the low energy prices that hurt the economy tremendously. they will be try to be kind as possible with canada, basically president trump can get about anything he wants in a new trade deal, no? >> it is different situation than mexico. we're not exporting jobs to canada. they have wages similar to ours. it is different arrangement. united states run as trade surplus from canada if you look at goods and services. goods alone about $15 billion annual deficit is. it is much more complicated relationship. it is not the same as mexico. but we have a lot of things we want to accomplish together. obviously the keystone pipeline, working with canada on other energy projections. by the way there is an infrastructure project waiting
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to happen, so-called international bridge obama had money set aside for but never put it to work because i think they had republican governor in michigan perhaps. david: interesting. >> there is a lot we could do with canada. david: let me get steve in. steve, the fact that trudeau alluded to his differences with donald trump. they're different guys. trudeau is a solid liberal. trump is basically conservative. but when it comes to things like the pipeline, for example, canada really is behind the eight ball. they need, even though it goes perhaps against his green policy, trudeau needs the keystone pipeline, does he not? >> he absolutely does. sometimes in life where you sit is where you stand. seems like because he sits in canada, you're right he may not love it personally the keystone pipe line but they need it. i thought this was fantastic of president trump, the last four days what he has shown us is real statesmanship, incredible
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for somebody to be honest a novice politician. his meetings with both prime minister abe and prime minister trudeau showed that he is reasonable negotiator. he is always going to negotiate for america first strategy with you we know we have a common future together particularly when it comes to our neighbor canada. melissa: meantime the showdown over president trump's cabinet continues on capitol hill. we're awaiting the senate confirmation vote for steve mnuchin for treasury secretary. fox business's peter barnes with the latest on this one. peter, what is it looking like? reporter: senate is on track to finally confirm steve mnuchin treasury secretary at 7:00 hour eastern. mnuchin spent 17 years as executive at goldman sachs. that caught him heat throughout the process. they said he profited from foreclose sure who his company
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later sold to cit. republicans are holding up confirmation. that is going to happen. >> today we will be asked to vote for our treasury nominee whose questionable business practices earned him the title of for closure king. >> it has been really disappointing to see the historic level of obstruction by senate democrats. i would like to remind our colleagues across the aisle of the very real consequences their actions have on our country. reporter: mnuchin denies he and his bank did anything wrong at the time on mortgage foreclosures, and followed the rules properly. also tonight, after voting on mnuchin, the senate plans to vote on the president's veteran affairs secretary nominee, david shulkin. both gentlemen are expected to be confirmed along party lines. melissa. melissa: peter, thank you for that. steve and liz are back.
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liz, i have to tell you, over the weekend i was at the lego batman movie, the credits roll, right out of the gate, producer steve mnuchin. something a little odd having my treasury secretary producing the movie i'm seeing over the weekend. i mean he has a diverse background, to say the very least. how do you feel about it. >> he has a diverse background. we can talk about why you were at movie. melissa: i have little kids. i will bring them next time i swear. >> he has had an unusual background. what he has first and foremost has been a long track record of being a trump loyalist. let's face it, trump has rewarded people with him and stuck with him through the campaign. that said i think this whole misrepresentation of how his bank handled mortgages really is sort of obscene. clearly they worked very hard, as he said in his nomination, confirmation hearings, anyone that knows anything about
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banking knows you never want a mortgage to go into default. it is wildly expensive. foreclosure is the last option but the truth of the matter we know what happened during the crisis. all kinds of people were never going to make good on those mortgages. they gave him a hard time. they made their point. now he will be treasury secretary. boy, it is really time. we need to get this cabinet up and running. the work of the people being done. too much. melissa: flip side of that, i always feel like it is very rich when you have congressman and senators out there talking about the financial crisis and home loans when they're the ones that helped pump up the market through hud and everybody has to buy a house and through government-backed loans. there was enough blame to go around for them to be sitting there pointing their fingers at bankers, no? >> melissa, you're absolutely right, the hypocrisy level on the hill is maddening at times. here is the good news. we'll have a treasury secretary.
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one is wildly successful on both coasts in two unrelated businesses. i view that as massive positive he is wall street titan and movie mogul. that is exactly private sector expertise we need with a deal maker in chief as president. don't take my word for it. look at the stock markets. every single indices closed at record highs today. if you owned stocks today i think you should send a valentine card immediately to 1600 pennsylvania avenue and probably to steve mnuchin for that matter. investors are believing we can grow again. melissa: maybe. it may have something to it do with rolling back of regulation here as well, what we're hearing, in hope of maybe some tax cuts. thanks guys, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. david: opec making good in part on its deal to cut production so why is oil down significantly today? phil flynn is standing by at the cme in chicago. phil. >> good morning. oil was down big because this number, high compliance number
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was leaked out by private forecasters and individuals and we had a very strong dollar. we have to get you there the short-term of u.s. oversupply. there is expectation we'll sell an additional 10 million barrels of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. that is going to add to u.s. inventories over the short run. there is increase in u.s. rig counts to highest level since november of 2015. that will raise oil production but not right away. but today we didn't have a lot of action today, so it was down today. we'll see turn around tomorrow, tuesday back to you. david: you know how i can tell you had a tough day, phil, 4:00 in the afternoon and you say good morning. melissa: he is there around the clock. david: that is true. melissa: hop shopping at nordstrom no more. facing backlash after dropping ivanka trump brand. actor scott baio will never shop there. wait until you hear what he spent there last year alone. coming up.
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david: he could close the shop. german chancellor angela merkel making about face after her open door policy jeopardized the safety of her nation. her bizarre new plan to bribe migrants to leave germany. melissa: trump administration filing paperwork to appeal last week's decision in the ninth circuit court. we have more on developing story coming up. >> we're getting such praise for our stance. it's a stance of common sense. maybe a certain toughness. it is more than toughness but it's a stance of common sense. [ alarm clock beeping ]
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decision to a larger panel. that was only three judges this is larger group. peter barnes in d.c. with more details. go ahead, peter. reporter: david, not exactly clear the trump administration is appealing this. turns out stuff happened on friday that we want to clarify. at the ninth circuit if any one judge wants to anonymously ask that this, that a ruling be reviewed en banc by a larger group of judges in this case, 11 judges, on the court, rather than instead of three that made this ruling that can go forward. turns out today at the district court level judge james row barreds court in seattle, the administration filed paperwork a motion to judge robart, to ask him hold off any proceedings at district court level so they can try to figure out within the next few days can, there is a
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deadline later this week, whether the, on how they want to proceed on this en banc, this broader review of this decision by the three-judge panel at the circuit level last week to block the stay on president trump's executive order. and this from the filing. it says accordingly at this time defendants, that is the trump administration, believe the appropriate course is postpone any further proceedings in the district court while all this unfolds some it is not 100% certain yet this will be heard by the larger panel, and we're trying to sort through all of it. we'll obviously keep you posted. there is activity that will happen. david: sounds like too many lawyers and judges involved. peter, thank you very much. melissa: here for reaction, we have barbara smith, an attorney and former u.s. supreme court clerk. thanks for joining us. what do you make of what you just heard? what is really going on here as we try to decode it? >> sure. it is not unusual for a single
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judge on the ninth circuit call for rehearing en banc, what happened in this case. both parties will file briefs on thursday explaining whether or not they believe the case should be heard en banc, active judges on court, 29, will vote whether or not to rehear the case. if majority votes yes, a panel of 11 judges will rehear the case. melissa: wow, we have a long way to go? we don't know for sure this will happen at this point? >> keep in mind the questions, en banc court would be answering is simply whether to stay issuance of the tro pending appeal. it is not even the merits of the case. melissa: wow, a lot of effort in order to just, you know rule on the stay. what you do think is the best course of action if you were advising them for the trump administration right now? a lot of people said it would be easier to pull back and rewrite it and start over. what do you think? >> well, sure. so is there are a couple of things the administration can do. obviously they can continue to pursue the merits appeal, file
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en banc papers see if larger panel rehear the case and overturn the panel decision and simultaneously pursue issuing new executive order that takes into account that panel included in the opinion to try to insulate the new executive order from this type of stay going forward. they can do both strategies at once if they choose to. melissa: interesting. according to what we heard before, what you just said, one of the judges should go back and whether or not we listen to this in the larger group and this panel. is that right? why would one of the judges have done that. >> the nurse reports i said a judge on the ninth circuit called for en banc vote. that happens 50 times a year in the ninth circuit. any judge sitting in the ninth circuit can review decision issued by panel and ask his or her colleagues whether a full panoply of 11 judges should do that. happens about 50 times a year a judge will call full en banc review. happens 1500 times the parties
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ask for en banc review. melissa: why would they do that? are they feeling second-guessed? do they disagree with what some other judges did? what is the motivation? >> there is no way to know which calls for the review. maybe the judge thought the panel got it wrong. the judge got it right for maybe wrong legal reason. no wray to be heard whether the decision will be affirmed or reversed. there is no way to know. melissa: barbara smith. thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. david: meanwhile on the other side of the border german chancellor angela merkel reportedly paying migrants to leave germany. she is facing intense criticism over germany's open door policy which has seen more than a million migrants flood into the country. her 16-point plan would speed up removal of rejected asylum-seekers. here is the controversial part. offer migrants $95 million of cash incentives to withdraw the asylum applications and leave.
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merkel is up for re-election in september. no telling whether this will help or hurt. a bribe to leave. a bribe to leave. >> amazing. the happiest place on earth just got even more expensive. details on the disney price hike, what it means for your wallet. plus avoiding possible deportation. one group's advice to illegal immigrants how to dodge the raids. pete hegseth, u.s. army veteran, sounds off on that coming up. >> the biggest question what is the argument? are they saying people who are here, illegal aliens with felony records have moral right to stay here? okay. because why?
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my next guest says we can get our economy back on track. starts with tax reform. republican congressman mike bishop joins us now. congressman, good to see you. our economy, despite the fact market through the roof because of expectations from the future, right now our economy is very slow. we are growing once again under 2%. our economy came down in the last quarter. would a tax cut, when we talk about tax reform, specifically, we're talking about cutting tax rates, would a tax reform plan turn that around? >> that would given it would turn dramatically. it is high time to get that done. david: why the delay, congressman? back in the reagan administration they delayed their tax cuts by 18 months. we can put up a gdp figure for the reagan administration and for the first two years they had a very slow economy. in fact in '82 they were in a recession. it wasn't until the tax cuts
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kicked in in 1983 we you saw gdp go up to 4.6. the next year, 7.3%. it was never less than 3 1/2%? >> well, i'm, we have been stuck in, under the obama administration for eight years of no growth at all, it is because we had the cuffs on this economy. you take the cuffs off the economy and let it grow at the rate it is inclined to do so. there is a lot of pent-up demand and a lot of pent-up business spending would like to come out to invest and they're looking for a reason, the way to do that to bring investment back to our country and give businesses the opportunity to fet out there and real invest in their company and in their -- david: but, congressman, outside of the beltway, particularly in the wall street area, people are looking at the politicians, even republicans, saying you guys are too timid. you should go at it right now, really, really go at it full speed, which you say what? >> i agree with you 100%.
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chairman brady agrees with you 100%. speaker ryan agrees with you 100%. that is exactly what we're doing. we're already beginning the wheels moving as we speak and should have something going and done about it end of the summer. david: will it be retroactive? will it cover all of the tax year of 2017? >> well that is the goal to find a plan we can make applicable to 2017 so that we can, bring back that confidence to this economy. you see today, what the stock market has done. we think that that can go up, up and away. we're very confident about that. this idea of changing the way in which we tax our businesses, will change the way this economy operates. i think it is going to be exceptional. david: the goal for retroactivity, that means folks filing forms in april may count on a tax cut by then? >> 2017 should be the tax year. so the tax year which we're operating now. david: yeah. >> right. david: okay, congressman, thank you very much. let's hop you're right.
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i appreciate it. melissa. melissa: it is the happiest place on earth until you see the bill. disney theme parks raising ticket prices once again. a single day at the magic kingdom will cost you 107, 115 or $124 depending on season. david: just one ticket. melissa: one ticket for a person. two to five dollars for off speak. annual pass is going up $30 from 749 to 779. david: whoa. melissa: disney finishing the day higher, about $110 a share which wouldn't get you into the park. bad-dum. david: high prices i don't know how they afford it. >> is still packed. david: it is a miracle. north korea's latest threat. meanwhile the country test firing a ballistic missile farther than any before and
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employing new technology. how the president plans to respond. lieutenant colonel ralph peters here to weigh in. melissa: evacuations underway in northern california. why hundreds of thousands of resident are forced to leave their homes. >> everyone is panicking. >> i'm scared. i've never been in anything like this before. >> people are stepping up and doing what they need to be doing. there is a lot of praying going on. the guy says, "you picked the wrong insurance plan." no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. liberty mutual insurance. i use what's already inside me to reach my goals. so i liked when my doctor told me that i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what's within me with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it's supposed to do
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melissa: another record day on wall street as trump rally rolls on. all major averages, dow, s&p 500, nasdaq, russell, all closing at brand new highs. look at that. >> we're getting spoiled. melissa: yep. david: national security advisor general michael flynn is under fire over what he did or didn't tell the white house regarding communication with russian officials. democratic house minority leader nancy pelosi calling for him to be let go. pelosi tweeting, quote, it is time for potus to break out his old catchphrase, of course you're fired, fire flynn. #flierflynn. lieutenant colonel ralph peters, fox strategic analyst. colonel peters you knew mike flynn going back 30 years. you guys were captains together in training. describe what kind of military guy, and whether it is possible he could make a mistake like this? >> i first met mike flynn in
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1985, immediately he was high speed, l drag guy. just a stellar officer. looked the part. very fit, veryough. very capable. everybody respected him. as he went on up through the ranks, mike earned his way. he wasn't equal opportunity baby. earn ad promotion through sheer heart work and excellence in iraq and afghanistan. was in the dia. things went wrong. tried to institute reforms bureaucrats went against. obama administration didn't want to hear about it. and mike was driven slightly ahead of schedule retirement. that is where the problem started. mystifying but for whatever reason, mike bobbed in moscow at a banquet table with vladmir putin funded by putin's propaganda arm, rt, formerly russian television.
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that cast a pal, shadow, later phone calls with the am bass do here, the russian ambassador in washington and, a lot needs to be cleared up. i also have to say this i always have great respect for mike. when he went on putin's dime to moscow that really alarmed me. i'm old-fashioned under no circumstances should any retired officers take favor or funding from a hostile power, especially not if you're high-ranking intelligence officer. david: we have to move on. one final question. he has apologized to vice president pence for any misleading remark what he might have said to the russian ambassador. do you think that is enough. >> well, for me the issue, primary issue, salient issue isn't really mike pence. rather it is calls with the russian ambassador. we all got furious. we conservatives were furious when obama got caught on hot mic
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promising medvedev giving a strategic ice cream cone for putin after the election. we can't be hypocrites. mike went behind back of incumbent president without authorization, promised sanctions relief or suggest sanctions relief was on the way to russia. just plain wrong. david: colonel, we have to move on because there was some very important news over the weekend. north korea test firing a ballistic missile, escalating tensions once again. the missile traveled about 300 miles before it crashed in the sea of japan. the president addressed the issue in his press conference. listen. >> obviously north korea is a big, big problem. we will deal with that very strongly. david: the question is how, colonel? >> well, first of all i give the president credit getting off to good start on this one. he has taken a lot of media criticism today and over the weaken for remaining at dinner
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table with prime minister abe in japan and not going into a panic. that was actually the right thing to do. he, he had aides, he was working his phone. he had aides giving him his information but he didn't give kim jong-un seeing him and abe run off in panic to deal with the situation. david: yeah. >> that was good. so far president trump has been measured and restrained on issue. that is important because it is very complex. david: by the way we have only time for one more question. i have to just ask and cut to the chase, do the chinese hold all the cards with north korea or have they gone rogue? >> north korea has gone rogue. china thought they could control them. they are worried about collapse of regime. refugees flying across the border. korea reunification. unfortunately north korea, hold as whip hand, seoul, capital of south korea, was rebuilt right on the border of dmz.
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it is within artillery range. the capital of south korea is military hostage to north korea conventional forces. real tough problem, david. david: colonel ralph peters, always great to talk to you. melissa. melissa: on the virg of collapse, hundreds of thousands ordered to evacuate as part of the tallest dam in the country threatens to buckle. emergency crews preparing to seal the oroville dam with bags of rocks to ease the threat of water spilling over. >> it is very much a fluid and dynamic operation going on there. when you're deal with mother nature hard to look into a crystal ball to predict how that will evolve. melissa: amazing. officials insisting that the structural integrity of the dam itself remains sound but a broken spillway has the potential to release a cascade of water three stories tall into
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the river downstream. david: protesters south of the border protesting 18 mexican cities today protesting policies and comments of president trump. 20,000 people marched waving mexican flags and posters with various anti-trump sentiments. one thanked mr. trump for uniting mexico. and containing expletives in spanish and english. melissa: just another day. no longer dishing out the dough. nordstrom dropping ivanka trump's brand. scott baio says those days are over. >> that is absolutely ridiculous. ivanka trump is good roll model for young girls, she is successful entrepreneur, so bad they're making the decision based upon politics. it's not something you do now and then.
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melissa: nordstrom facing major backlash after dropping ivanka trump's brand. actor scott baio is sending a bold message to retailers saying never again to the company after spending a whopping $30,000 last year there. scott joins me now. scott, did you spend all of that yourself? what exactly did you get? that is a lot of fine clothing. >> last year was a light year. my wife likes to shop there. i buy some stuff there. just one of the stores we shop at. i've been working a long time. and enjoy, i enjoy buying stuff like every good american do. i buy under armour too. melissa: you did enjoy it until now. now you're saying no to nordstrom. they make the case in all fairness, sales dropped off. other people not coming in to buy the brand. that is why they decided to drop the brand. you don't buy that? >> i just read before i came over here, tamara maro, said
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they don't give any date to anybody about anything about their sales. so to me it seems more political than anything. i think what happened was, the bosses over ad nordstrom listening to .0001 percent with the little resist signs and started getting afraid. they don't realize people like me who spend money in their store have had it with people a bunch of chickens -- i almost said that. melissa: that was very close. my heart skip ad beat. >> sorry. melissa: one of the ironies in this fight, ivan call trump is female entrepreneur -- can ivanka trump. she is within the administration standing up for maternity leave and child care. she was criticized at beginning of this campaign, that she is democrat and wasn't registered to vote republican in new york.
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folks on left is penalizing someone who largely agrees with them and represents their values. do you see irony in that? >> they have been hypocrites, they have always been hypocrites in my opinion. that is one of the other reasons why i won't shop at that store, forget it that it is ivanka trump, it's a woman. you liberals so so pro-woman. she is woman doing it out there. why would you you try to hurt her? their logic, which is zilch, they don't have any. they came at me, melissa, saying you know, i said something about nordstrom, what do you know? you're a has-been. you can't afford to stop at nordstrom. melissa: no they didn't, really? >> i put my statement out there. how dare you spend that much money at nordstrom. you should be helping the homeless. melissa: you can't win. >> can't win with these people. so, they can hold their little resist signs and they're such an insignificant portion of the population, but the news media
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plays to them. so that is unfortunate. melissa: there is pile-on effect. many stores said they will not stock it, mainly because they want to avoid controversy. whether they agree or not, one of those things they don't want to get picketed. do you think they are creating more controversy not doing it? are there other people out there would boycott or for average person, i can't be bothered? >> well, i'll tell you what, my twitter, there are a ton of people will not shop there anymore. so i think it will have double backlash on. liberals who don't want to shop because they were selling ivanka stuff. guys like me, i'm not calling for boycott. you do what you want to do. i don't like people playing politics. if you have a good product, out there, selling it. don't sell me sales are down when you won't release your numbers. just insulting. i have sort of had it.
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you know what i mean? got to the point i sucked up obama and his crap for eight years. melissa: my goodness. >> i wasn't a crybaby. stop crying. take "the pacifier" out of your mouth, live your life. stop waking upset every day the world is ending. live your life. melissa: you shouldn't be meek and mild and hold back what you think. tell people how you feel. don't worry about it. >> can't help it. thanks, melissa. >> see you soon i hope. >> absolutely, you got it. >> just like trump. he will not hold back. i tell you how i feel. david: i -- melissa: i tried out for "charles in charge" for a bunch of times as a kid. they never cast me. one of those things. they have weekly shows. david: which have to move on. when immigration officers calls, how one group is offering free advice to illegal aliens, giving tips how to efade government agents. time for a change the department of veterans affairs. senate next to confirm next secretary of va.
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david: that is one million more than gw bush deported. we're hearing all of this about a california raid that deported 161 people? it is a little disproportionate, is it not? >> of course it is. the word raid sets people off, especially on the left, feel like the jack boot thugs of trump administration coming to round up everybody. that is the narrative they want. reality isis doing their job based on laws on the books. trump said we'll focus on criminals first, many already targeted under the obama administration. in l.a. alone of 160, only five are people who would not have been rounded up about by obama! this is a very straightforward policy that is existed for a long time. trump saying we're going to obey the rule of law. david: yeah. >> that is what he is doing. left is going nuts. they never went nuts under obama. david: no signs of qualitative fashion that raids are harsher than the raids conducted under obama? >> no.
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raids, call them what you want. you find some one where they are because they're here illegally. and they're due for deportation because they have committed crimes in our country. that has nothing to do with a raid whatever you want to call it. we're enforcing rules of law on our books. left is going nuts because they want to impugn trump. i talked to i.c.e. agents. they want to do their job. they're happy to be able to enforce laws on the books. david: all right. a lot of folks when they heard who was going to be nominated to head the veterans administration were concerned it is david shulkin because david shulkin in fact is an insider. they will be voting on him very soon from now. he was part. veterans administration. did that concern you? does it worry you perhaps that an insider couldn't clean house? >> well a little bit. he was inside the va for some of the bob mcdonald, barack obama era. i trust donald trump.
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he says he wants, has a 10-point plan how he will reform the va. david shulkin will be judged by extent he implement what president trump wants to do, hold people accountable, give veterans choice, drain the va swamp. that will take tough calls. if you've been there va, pull out of it and be va secretary and make tough calls. i'm hopeful he will do the right thing. he should get the opportunity. we'll see. he is health care expert. va needs health care overhaul. david: vouchers, will veterans have how muchers that vouchers o receive medical care they want. >> call it voucher, choice, veterans should have the choice to go outside of the va if they can't be seen inside. that is the center point of trump's plan. if he can do that, he will reform big parts. va. he can't, a lot of things stay the same.
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melissa: a statement on the red carpet. shocking hollywood. but mainstream america is onboard. music sales skyrocketing after a singer wore a trump-themed dress to the grammy awards. the red, white, and blue dress was colored with make america again slogan on the front and with trump on the back. mermaid dress. david: was not nominated for a t she's doing pretty well for herself. her album, i make the static hitting number one on both itunes and amazon today. it went up to 16 -- almost immediately last night and had been trailing down by something like 100,000.
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so it went immediately up. so it's not always bad news. but you read the letters and the tweets about her. melissa: people think she just did it for this publicity because everybody else was antitrump saying things during the -- who knows. all right. here's risk and reward. >> right now we are considering and pursuing all options. those options include emergency phase in the supreme court, continuing the appeal with the panel, having an emergency hearing, or going to the trial court in the district level and a trial on the merits. they also include, as you have mentioned, the possibility of new executive action designed to prevent terrorist infiltration of our country. . liz: we're watching the white house this hour. new executive orders could come down this moment. and this just in, the white house asking seattle judge james to put any temporary
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