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can be a big boost to earnings especially in 2018 and 2019. [closing bell rings ♪ liz: dan chung thanks for coming on. there is the closing bell. david asman and melissa francis with the love affair and bulls. melissa: what imagery, my goodness. another huge day on wall street. you are making money on this valentine's day. look at the dow climbing into the close to end at brand new record high for forth day in a row. s&p, nasdaq and russell following suit. smashing records at the close. i'm melissa francis. david: they don't care about the political stuff going on. i'm david asman. after the bell. we have you covered big market movers. here is what else we have for you at this hour. erosion of trust, major shake-up in the trump administration.
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why general mike flynn asked to resign, concerns grow how his conversations with a russian ambassador were leaked in the first place. russian spy ship spied off the coast of delaware. is there any link to what we know going on in d.c.? we'll let you know. republicans are on track to replace obamacare despite deep division within the party. a new plan is announced tomorrow. we'll speak to a congressman behindhe bill. mark sanford of south carolina. lissa: the dow ending up nearly 90 points to a new high for a fourth day in a row. the sixth time this year. let's go to lori rothman on the floor of the new york stock exchange. lori, there are big-name individual stocks closing at new all-time highs as well, huh? >> >> financials, melissa, we were
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at 20,000 seems like only a couple trading session. now we could look at dow 21,000. i don't want to get ahead of myself. market was okay with fed chief janet yellen leaving door open for march rate hikes. record closes. goldman sachs at the close, 249.46. that is the best close in nine years. a gain of 1.3%. jpmorgan, home depot, apple trading in record territory. let me move it along. big shocker in health insurance company. cigna suing anthem, reverse of terms fee and other damages. cigna calling off the $48 billion agreement to merge with anthem. anthem says we're not on the hook for these fees, 13 billion as i said. but what is really interesting here, the announcement comes a few hours after aetna and humana peacefully decided to call off the merger. all this with uncertainty what
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replaces obamacare in the trump administration. back to you years lori, thank you for that. david: traders await tomorrow's weekly inventory report gold closing lower for the fourth straight day, settling at 1229 an ounce as the dollar camed from upbeat comment from fed chair janet yellen on the state of the nation's economy. melissa. melissa: president trump meeting with homeland security head john kelly and attorney general jeff sessions in the white house. we'll keep an eye on any headlines coming out of that. we'll bring them to you as soon as they happen. david: with all the political turmoil over the resignation of general mike flynn, stocks remaining resilient. they rose during the democrats press conference where they were threatening all kinds of investigations. here is the "wall street journal" dan hen anyone gear.
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this says a lot about the resilience of this bull market, does it not? >> they're looking for possibility of cuts in corporate tax rate and financial regulatory reform. just relief from the burdens sitting on the economy for the past eight years under president obama. david: what i pointed to in the intro, interestingly markets went up 1230 to one, exactly when the press conference was going on. a lot of people say that markets are good at predicting the future f they thought this press conference would amount to anything, impeachment or something like that they would have gone down. they did the opposite. what do you think? >> markets, david, are on a hair trigger. they are reacting like all of us are of the news to the day, one day to the next, and they're looking at it focused how much it will affect their interests.
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if they got any inkling at all any interest that the tax reform bill is real and going forward. david: that is it what they care about. >> that is what markets care about. david: democrats screaming about donald trump they don't care much about, do you? >> unless the political forces are so great they wash up against the white house, this thing with general flynn was a big take-down from the trump presidency. you don't need more at that lapping at your agenda, david. melissa: defending her seat at table. ibm ceo ginni rometty standing pat on advisory role to donald trump? in memo to employees. epgaugement is always better than protest. even if you hate his administration wouldn't you want your company to have direct seat at table to have a voice to impact policy? i don't understand, i don't really understand trying to force the ceo of your company off any sort of advisory role?
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>> there was this anonymous petition criticizing ginni rometty doing that. not clear whether it came from inside ibm or from the outside but clearly there are people out there who divided world into total opposition to donald trump, or trying to make the president sy work. there is no in between for these people. i completely agree, melissa. especially with this president who operates on personal one-on-one basis. melissa: right. >> you want to be inside the room if you have some interest in h1b visas for your workers. you want to talk to him instead on the outside like travis kalanick of uber who walked away from the committee. melissa: obviously his original inkling to be a part of it. he thought, maybe nothing else selfishly for your company, being in there sticking up for it, or if you're really going to sit on your moral high horse, you could ride it on into the meeting and try to get him to
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change his mind or make point to him. staying outside all together and protesting, not being a part of the process -- >> not going to work with this press den can sy. you have to be on inside. melissa: have to be on inside. glad we agree on that. david? david: top retailers fighting any variety of import tax with ceos from best buy, target and gap on capitol hill again t gop border adjustment tax. dan, this is the battle. it is between the importers and exporters. "the wall street journal," your paper, had a great piece how lobbyists for two sides are going at each other on the border adjustment tax, or at least the threat of one. >> welcome to tax reform, david. that is the way tax bills are fought out. we went through this in 1986. everybody is going to be affected. not everyone is going to win and this is the sort of thing that has to be thrashed out before we
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threat got bill out of the ways and means committee. these retailers have something of a case. they're under a lot of pressure from online retail companies, stores are closing across the country. they had a tough christmas. david: right. >> this is the kind of politics we'll witness over the next couple month. david: i wish we had charles payne here to talk about that. oh, look at that, he's here! our own "making money" host, charles payne. charles, every single american is an importer. not every american is an exporter, know what i mean? >> sure. david: when you look at battle between the impovertiers and exporters, all of america imports something whether a car or pen whatever it is where not everybody are exporters. by that judgment shouldn't importers within and we get no border tax? >> absolutely. particularly these importers. think about who shops here? when preside trump brings back the factory jobs you have to go to tractor supply to get your
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gear. it is pretty simple. boeing scored a big victory. apparently administration does not get rid of import export bank. they have their own corporate piggybank. this is real crazy. i would remind those guys. we're essence of america. walgreens started in 1901. jcpenney in 1902. target in 1902. these companies represent lower echelon of america. a tax on them and their products would be nut. david: charles payne and dan henninger, thank you. melissa: remember this dress? singer joy villa turning heads on the red carpet on grammy sunday. david: there it is. >> since then her album shot to number one on itunes. how did the liberal artist at the grammys respond? you may be surprised. david: i look forward to that. republican town halls all over the country he erupting from protests from the left. [shouting]
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california congressman tom mcclintock had to be escorted out by police for his own safety. he is going to tell us about his harrowing event coming up. melissa: the wake of mike flynn's resignation as national security advisor, president trump is focusing on what he says is the real problem. recent illegal leaks of sensitive information. lt. general colonel thomas mcinerney will tell us who he believes is behind this next. >> there is also a story here with the amount of leaks coming out with people entrusted with national security secrets and classified information, are leaking it out. that's a real concern for this president. so what else is new? how's your mother? umm..she's doing good. she needs more care though. she wants to stay in her house. i don't know even where to start with that. first, let's take a look at your financial plan and see what we can do. ok, so we've got... we'll listen. we'll talk. we'll plan. baird.
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mcmahon into the small business administration moments ago. listen. >> anybody that grew up like i did in a small businesfamily is more than a cliche that small business is the heart of the american dream. it truly is, it is the center of american prosperity and so many ways. and when you get right down to it, small businesses are the engine of economic growth, more often than not leading the way to a more prosperous america. it happened in the past and under president trump's leadership it will happen in the future. they are the leading heart of our national prosperity and linda mcmahon knows this more than most. she and her husband founded titan supports in the late 1970s. they poured their heart and souls into it like other american entrepreneurs. linda i'm told made meatball sandwiches they sold at earliest events.
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they rolled their sleeves up and made a go of it into extraordinary success. they turned that small business into a titan of entertainment millions of americans know and love and enjoy every day. it is really no stretch to say, that linda mcmahon and this family have lived the american dream and it is inspiring to see. linda, president trump now asked you to serve your company as the head of the small business administration and make that dream more possible for more american families. given your leadership, experience, strength of character and conviction, the president and i have most confidence that small business will be better for your leadership and best days for small business an the best days for the american economy are still ahead. thank you for stepping up at such a time of this at the life of our nation. with the hope of deck lan, vaughn, murphy, rogan, my great
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pleasure to administer you the oaths of office. place lure your left hand on the bible, raise your right hand and repeat after me. i, linda mariery mcmahon do solemnly swear. >> i linda marie mcmahon do solemnly swear. >> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> against all enemies foreign and domestic. >> against all enemies foreign and domestic. >> that i will bear truth faith and allegiance to the same. >> bear true faith an allegiance to the same. >> i bear this obligation freely. >> i bear this obligations freely. >> without any mental reservation. >> without any mental reservation is. >> for purpose of evasion. >> or purpose of he evasion. >> that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties. >> that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties. >> of the positives upon which i am about to enter. >> the office i am which about to intare. >> so help me god.
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>> so help me god. >> congratulations. >> thank you. david: with all the good news, amid all the crazy news, linda mcmahon, unlike other nominees, got big majority, 81-19 was the senate vote confirming her. mcmahon, you might recognize her, she and her husband vince were the head of the world wrestling entertainment, wwe, which is extremely successful. started as a small business. melissa. melissa: breaking news. president trump currently meeting with the president of homeland security and the attorney general in the office office. white house trying to shake off controversy after the president's national security advisor stepped down. fox business's blake burman is at the white house with the latest. quite a busy day, blake. >> indeed, melissa. yes, you're right, at this hour, the president sitting down with two top members of his cabinet, department of homeland security, general john kelly for one, attorney general jeff sessions. sessions as you know is the
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administration's top attorney but earlier today when white house press secretary sean spicer was giving his briefings he made a few things very clear and one of them at least from the administration side of things there will not be an investigation into the national security advisor, the former advisor, michael flynn. listen. >> people are free to do what they wish but i think they will find exactly what the president first believed and what the white house counsel conclude and and frankly a couple publications reported there was no investigation for a reason. it was not an issue of law. it was an issue of trust. reporter: melissa the argument earlier from spicer was twofold. first they say when the white house counselor's reyou viewed everything happening surrounding flynn they did not find anything illegal. however, they said the reason why he is no longer on the job is because he has lost the president's trust. however there are certainly questions as it relates to the folks who are about a mile to our east here on capitol hill as many are still calling for an investigation.
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one of them earlier today, being republican senator from missouri, roy blount. he sits on the senate intelligence committee. he would like members of his committee to speak to mr. flynn, quote, very soon. melissa? melissa: we hardly heard the last of this. david: the story has legs as we say. melissa: it sure does. david: why exactly was michael flynn being spied on? president trump taking to twitter, the real story here why are there so manillegal leaks coming out of d.c. will these leaks be happening as i deal on north korea, et cetera? after former ohio congressman dennis kucinich telling maria bartiromo that people are trying to separate the u.s. and russia. >> what is the at core of this, effort by some in the intelligence community to upend any positive relationship between the u.s. and russia. i tell you there is a marching band and society out there. there is gold in them their hills. people are trying to separate the u.s. and russia. so that this military industrial
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intel axis can cash in. david: that is one theory. there are a lot of theirries out there. here is retired lt. general thomas mack -- mcinerney. retired u.s. general. general, first of all, general flynn was head of the defense intelligence agency, one of the smartest people in intel in the world if not the smartest. how could he not know his conversation with the russian ambassador was being recorded? >> he did know, there is no question about it. his daily take that he read every day he used to read part of that stuff. there is no question he you knew about itp. david: so if he knew, why would he say something for which he would eventually be fired? >> well that is the question we're all trying to figure out, david. that is the 64-dollar question, and whether he said something that differed with, i have heard different secretary of defense, secretary of state, whatever it is, there was a fference there
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in what he related and a policy difference. david: yeah. >> general, forgive me for interrupting, we heard dennis kucinich with his theory. frankly i think that is a little wild. let me throw another theory out there which is perhaps a little less wild. that general flynn was actually counseled or told by either the president or one of the president's aides to sound out the russian ambassador. when the whole thing was uncovered he decided to fall on his sword. what is is the chance that that happened? >> oh, that is a course of action could be. the one thing i'm sure is, mike flynn does not lie. the fact he was talking to the russian ambassador, whether he was talking about sanctions or not, he is authorized to talk about sanctions. he had been elected, president trump had. his staff and his national security advisor had already been -- david: he was elected but not yet president. that is the key as to whether he violated the law. let me play something i know you're familiar with.
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go back to 2012. president obama before his re-election was talking to the head of russia, medvedev, about vladmir putin. take a listen. >> my last election. after my election i have more flexibility. yeah. [inaudible] david: that was president obama then, talking about when he was reelected, tell vladmir putin everything will be cool. i will get rid of all okay stab cycles. could it be message donald trump was trying to relay to putin before he was inaugurated? >> i don't know that and that is a course of action, david, you're speculating on it, just like everybody else is. the clear issue is all administrations talk to as they're coming in, talk to other nations coming in. they can do that the logan act is, no one has ever been tried
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for it. that is not the issue. i think sean spicer pointed that out. there were no illegal acts conducted. now there may have been some different versions of conversations obviously with the vice president and others that i have heard that are starting to leak out. we don't know yet. in any case, the president felt that he has lost his trust. and that's a big thing. david: that is a big thing. >> i'm surprised after 25 days this happened. we're all i think shocked by it. david: let's switch subjects although it might be related to the russian ship off the coast of delaware. it's a spy ship. is it conceivable it is related in that the russians are trying to take advantage of a vacuum in the current administration's stance vis-a-vis russia? >> i think that ship is there trying to determine our patterns of behavior as we go through this mini-crisis and look at things. look, david, there is a lot of
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intrigue in all administrations between the different departments. the only difference is here, this administration to date is loaded with obama appointees and members that came in, not appointees, people hired by the obama administration, who have not helped the administration, this new administration. they have left some trap doors. and the fact is, i think that is what is confusing it. the president has ever right to know, to ask the question. david: sure. >> am i going to have leaks everything i do? david: somebody clearly leaked information about mike flynn's conversation with the russians, if not the transcript itself to the press, "the washington post" reported that. general mcnerney, we have a lot more to talk about. >> thanks, david. david: melissa. melissa: the fight to repeal obamacare. the house freedom caucus pushing for swift repeal of the affordable care act. house republican leaders insist they will take a step by step approach to overhaul the law.
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take a listen. okay, could you scroll up in that case. republican congressman mark sanford has a new obamacare replacement plan he will introduce tomorrow. the house freedom member joins us now. thank you so much for joining us. one of the biggest questions consumers have out there is about the timing. they want to know are you going to be able to put a new plan in place before the end of the year? not that it will take effect ebecause i understand the rollout takes some time but will you have something to get passed by the end. year? >> i hope so. that is what this bill is about. this is the bicameral approach. this is companion bill what senator rand paul introduced on the senate side. so i get it. people are really anxious about this at home, for the reasons you have articulated. people don't want to see a gap. they don't want to know what is coming next.
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health care is incredibly important it to people at many different levels. melissa: yeah. one of the things, we had rand paul on the show to talk about his plan, one thing he tries to address, it is about the math. it is idea of the people that come on with preexisting conditions. obviously folks that use a lot of health care. somehow we have to pay for that. if we roll back the mandate and some other provisions that try to get healthy people to pay for it, seems like only other way to do it, pool people across state lines with the preexisting conditions and maybe target the government's money at their pool? how do you pay for those folks, do you think? >> our approach is couple different ways. as you correctly point out across state lines, you spread risk across greater group of folks. allow buying power that ultimately impacts pricing. what we're talking abo is, if
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you look at pooling, it can occur at sort of different levels. the whole idea of health savings account, idea of having people spend their own money which begins to impact pricing. what we're, i guess we'llly getting at ultimately insurance being insurance. one of the fatal flaws to obamacare you could wait until your house is burning to buy home insurance. could you wait until your car was wrecked to buy auto insurance. that is the not nature of real insurance. that's what the obama care plan did. you not having people pay ahead of time on anticipated risk. they're buying not for risk but actual occurrence. we're changing the way you approach and existing condition and pay for it. melissa: the cost of a lot of people that use a lot of insurance has to go up. that is kind of the only way you
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pay for those people. what you're talking about is, allowing families who only want catastrophic insurance like you said, they want to insure against a really big expense. if you let them do that, that is cheaper out of the gate and they're not contributing to care of really six people. if you let younger people not cover everything, all of this was supposed to pay for the people that use a lot. people that use a lot, are they going to have to pay more, is that the bottom line? >> in some instances i suspect they would, but what we don't right now is true insurance. instead of people paying in for years, tragically, sadly, wait until they get cancer to go on insurance. so you don't have the power of compounding. you don't have the power of money actually going into a plan that prepares for an eventual horror that might come your way. you're waiting to pay for it
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when it actually occurs. that undermines the nature of insurance. melissa: from pure political point of view democrats don't have a sense to come in they have been labeled a failure. unless they do it out of the good of their hearts, unless they have the best for people and don't have incentive to pitch in. do you think democrats support the plan or do you think republicans do it on their own? >> i think they will have to ultimately for the reasons again you suggest, there is not going to be a lot of reason to go out to help the republicans come up with a plan but it is spiraling downward. in for instance in south carolina we're down to one provider on obamacare side or affordable health care side. inflation in terms of premiums was 29%. so, i think one of the things, what many people said, let it fail. but if you do that, a lot of people are going to get hurt in the process. so i think republicans are rig to say let's come up with a plan that begins to address this
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though it may be painful politically. melissa: we'll see. congressman sanford, thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure, thanks. david: here is another look at new record day on wall street it is worth taking a look. the dow jones ended up 90 points to the plus side. that is 20,500. we're halfway to 201000 already. amazing day. -- 21,000. what a great valentine's day. cash some stocks in and buy your wife or significant other something special. melissa: i love that idea. all right, back to the bare basics. why "playboy" is snapping out of the its nude-free phase. david: i thought that would happen. protests erupting at republican town halls all over the nation. >> this was the first time a police department decided it needed an armed escort to safely leave the event. something very different is going on, very ugly. [phone ring]
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fast approaching, we can expect to see more of kinds of protests that have erupted at gop town halls. like the one congressman jason chaffetz confronted. it is a had all the makings of as slow turf protest. democratic money in george soros variety. others suggested burgeoning protests are organic and stem from leftist grassroots hatred of donald trump. not just town halls, democrats are protesting, they are throwing up roadblocks to congress, courts, media coverage, police protests, campus rioting. a full assault on the new administration. a bigger question, can the left translate anger into success at the ballot box two years from now as the tea party did during the obama administration. >> i don't think it can dismissed. whether or not ty can turn it into something electoral is different question.
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but the energy is very much there. >> for republicans capturing control of both houses of congress and a majority of statehouses and gubernatorial offices was not a work of tea party activism and ainge remember at the obama administration. rather the result of years of grass roots organizing. >> it takes a while. that is almost a decade of grassroots organizing, getting candidates to run and really changing the status quo in terms of trying to run candidates against incumbents which is very difficult thing to do and win. >> meantime the protests may grow. in fact the white house is said to be bracing for some kind of democratic stunt when the president address as joint session of congress on february 28th. perhaps a public taunt like we saw with joe wilson, or refusal to applaud when the president enters the chamber, perhaps another boycott. we'll see. david: we'll talk about exactly that right now. doug, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: here to respond to republican congressman tom mcclintock who had to be
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escorted out of his town hall. can you tell us what happened, sir? >> i have been town halls throughout the last eight years through the entire lifespan of tea party and occupy wall street. this was the first time a police department determined i needed an armed escort to safely leave the venue. melissa: were you in fear for your life? >> no. i think the police department did a good job at maintaining order but, their decision to provide an escort tells you what was their assessment of the crowd. melissa: how did you feel about it at the time? talk to me about sort of what was going on in your mind as this was happening? >> what makes these times dangerous is this. our institutions are the best ever deprovidessed to resolve the kind of disputes that we're having today as a society they onlwork when people are talking with each other, and not shouting at each other. that's the difference between these times and those that we've been through in the past. melissa: do you have any sense of who these people were? i ask that question in the
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context of, i heard even george stephanopoulos say the other day, there are organic protests popping up everywhere. do you agree with that kind of characterization? >> i think it is both. i think the vast majority of people are local grassroots activists. they are very, very you upset that donald trump won the election. and they're expressing that. you but there is also no question that there is a central organizing influence that is national in scope. melissa: yeah. i mean, how long, what is your sense of how long this continues? i mean, you know the left has said they will resist through the whole presidency. do you feel like this is one of those things that loses steam? does it feel like it is building momentum? what is your sense actually being in the middle of it? >> i think a lot of it will depend upon president trump's ability to deliver on his promises, to revive our national economy, to secure our borders, to restore our nation's sovereignty.
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you know all these folks was not mad at donald trump for breaking a campaign promise. they're all mad for keeping his promise. that is what the election was all about. in fact that is what the last four elections have been all about when democrat lost a net of 63 u.s. house seats, 12 u.s. senate seats, 10 governors, 900 plus state legislative seats and presidency itself. melissa: what do you think is the impact of it? because, on one hand you see something like the million woman march and see a lot of people get out really express themselves. people feel good abo that, wow, there is huge movement. a lot of people said where were you on election day? you're out there marching, that is great but you weren't excited enough about hillary clinton to mobilize this kind of energy in order to win. i mean what do you feel like is the impact of all of these voices out there? because we're covering it. so that is something but i don't know, what is your take? >> oliver wendell holmes once
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said when you argue with your emotions, the left is nothing but raw emotion, you never fail to delight your supporters, infuriate your adversaries and alienate that vast middle group you're trying to persuade. that is what the left is doing. they haven't figured out that is one of the reasons that they have lost the american people. melissa: yeah. it is frustrating to feel like you're out of power and you can do nothing about it. you can ask the right about that over the last eight years. there you go. >> i tried to point out look, i understand you're mad about the election. there were a lot of people that were just as mad about the election of donald trump but they didn't riot in the streets. they engaged fellow citizens in conversation and turned the country. but they did that based upon reason, not upon raw emotion, bullying and intimidation. melissa: there you go. congressman, thanks for joining us, we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. david: on the west coast, a race defense time in northern california. efforts underway around the clock to repair america's
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tallest dam, ahead of a massive storm expected to hit a matter of days and last for days. this is until the dam is secure, nearly 200,000 evacuees are in limbo. they are staying at shelters and schools north of the dam. airbnb waved fees for those affected as well. that is very nice. melissa: the left is enraged over illegal deportations even as criminals are getting kicked out. the fallout is coming up next. >> we have you now reached a low point in american journalism. as for the far left, they are people who do not want any immigration enforcement. they want open borders, they want alien criminals protected. they want anarchy.
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>> vast majority of immigrants are not criminals, terrorists, gang members. >> go ahead. >> guadalupe garcia is here 22 years. this is what donald trump did. this is what donald trump did. david: notice it was already creased there where he tore it. at any rate the left's anger is rising, tearing families apart literally. majority of deportations are criminals convicted of crimes. so far weekly number of deportations under trump don't come near the weekly numbers under president obama. here to react chris 10 hag land, conservative political commentator, jessica tarlov, bustle director of research. kristin, look at the numbers. immigration, no question, president obama deported 3 million people in the course of his presidency. that is a million more than was deported by gw bush. that was million more than done by bill clinton. so why is the press freaking out
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here? by the way, that comes out to 1000 deportation as week. last week the, all of the fuss was made about the deportations under donald trump. that was 680 people, 30% less than what president obama used to deport every week. >> right. the facts don't lie. also president obama was known as the deporter in chief by the latino community during his presidency. interestingly as well, in his first term, his deportations were also women and of children and people not necessarily committed crimes. david: why do you have all the headlines, missing from school or fear spreads among undocumented? jorge ramos. >> they are so desperate to paint donald trump and his administration as bigoted, racist, going after this. that didn't fit into the narrative of this wonderful president obama. so you have got the media message there. david: jessica, there is quantity and also quality. play a sound bite from president obama talking about immigration, what kind of people should be deported in his mind.
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play the tape. >> we should not be encouraging illegal immigration. what we should be doing is setting up a smart, legal, immigration system that doesn't separate families but does focus on making sure people who are dangerous, people who are gangbangers or criminals, that we're deporting them as quickly as possible. david: gone back and look at some recent statements of donald trump has made. they're almost verbatim what president obama said. of course when donald trump talks, he does it in a loud boisterous manner. et cetera. president obama sounds more quiet, et cetera but it is the same thing. >> it is no no the completely the same thing. david: how is it different. here from mexico criminals and rapists, some of whom are. >> some of whom are, donald trump whether you like him the man is i will eloquent with his words.
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that is how he began this conversation. travel ban began with muslim ban. we're here. liberals and -- david: he never talked about a muslim ban. >> he said, donald j. trump. david: talk, not what he did. >> it is inelegant what he says, when the policies don't match -- i don't know about deportation under obama, people just suspected of crimes. that is where donald trump -- david: focus on what a person does, as inelegant because he is not professional politician, he was inelegant talking about it. he is doing stuff and a lot less severe when president obama did. >> very much so. trump administration is dealing with a lot of chaos right now. they have the opportunity to turn that around to create results. people have to think critically. we have to agree people think critically of stories, swallow all the information they get whether, liberal, conservative, media. david: i hate that term fake news, if there is any fake news, this is fake news, talking about
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the administration, donald trump is worst at deportation and donald trump. we have to leave it at that. melissa. melissa: the singer who shocked the liberal elite at the grammys and struck a chord with mainstream america, joy villa jos us next, why she decided to take a stand against hollywood status quo. what she plans to do with the famous dress. ♪
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the singer and songwriter joins me now. so what was it like walking around in this dress? what do people say to you? >> you know, it is funny because you would think people were saying negative things mostly. but i tell you there were so many positive supportive comments. melissa: really. >> i love your dress. they were shocked, they were surprised. you would not think, at the grammys themselves. now i did get some dirt looks. there were some high level celebrities there. my peers in the music industry, they gave me dirty looks. shook their head. one guy said, i wish i could step on it. but in person most outlandish were positive. melissa: we have people from hollywood on say they are shunned in the industry if they're republicans. do you feel like this chance would hurt your career and were you you worried about the fact that you might get support from people out in the audience but within the industry, you would have a harder time down the road? you must have considered that?
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>> you know, i basically saw this, yes, i knew it would be very brave. it would be very brazen and very bold but, my internal beliefs are about love and unifying for the country, and unifying under our president and showcasing a unified america under our elected president trump. i said it is worth it, no matter what because i have to change the narrative of all this hate. it started sickening me, really, actually making me physically sick. whatever it takes i will make a statement, love it or hate it. i pretty much though wou be more hate than love. melissea >> but i'm actually receiving the opposite. melissa: seems like it would be provocative thing. i've been in public places where people come with the red hat, make america great, instantly there is animosity and anger toward them. >> definitely. melissa: your sales went through the roof. you really benefited from that. >> absolutely. melissa: i imagine getting people saying to you that you only did it so you would get all the great press and you would
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get noticed and sill your album. what do you think about people who think that was your motive? what do you say? >> i think it's really funny because it is just like you said, when you did it did you think your career would be hurt? melissa: of course. >> it is more dangerous to make a public statement in an industry that is not okay to support our president. it is not okay to have conservative beliefs, any sort of beliefs not the norm for hollywood. for me i knew i would actually be getting more of a decrease in support. that is what i figured, maybe not sell as many albums. maybe get hate in public. when my sales took off it was complete surprise. melissa: yeah. >> that i did not count on. and that was really surprising. that shows there is a lot more of us who are closeted, quieted and bullied. quite frankly we were bullied into silence. melissa: i hate to cut you off, my entire team is dying to know what you will do with the dress now? do you wear it again? do you sell it? what will you do with it?
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>> my idea, what i would like to do in the dress go to the white house to meet president trump and sing for him wearing the make america great dress. that is obviously what i would love to do. melissa: my hat is off to you. you are genius, joy. thanks for coming on. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much. god bless. david: i have a feeling she will get her wish. melissa: she is so smart, the only wray to top this, sing to him in the dress. that is genius. well-played. deciding to bare all once again. why "playboy" is making the controversial move to quote, reclaim who we really are. you can't predict ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. why pause a spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph.
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