to eat in french. they took it out of me during the commercial break. i had to admit doggie diner is my preference. that is a chain on the west coast in california. they have huge dogs as their advertising thing. neil cavuto, sir. all yours, buddy. neil: is lizzie there? liz: yes, sir. neil: lizzie, i thought it was -- predamanga? stuart: very good. neil: there is nothing ever ready to eat in france, period. you're waiting for that food, delicious as it is you will be waiting a while. that's not cutting it. isn't lizzie amazing? liz: no. neil: she knows, she has forgotten know in an hour than i have learned in my life. that is how scary smart she is. liz: no. neil: stuart: what the is name of this show? neil: well i'm just commenting

on the great group that you have with you that sort of propped you up. stuart: "varney & company," okay? neil: right. stuart: now it is "coast to coast". ashley: yes. neil: thank you very much. i learned something every single day. all right. i have learned this because sometimes these things get lost even in english. everyone is commenting on mnuchin, treasury secretary what he said. did anyone catch the explosive line that i think a lot of people, it isn't dawning on them. a tax package by august! by august. that is not a vote, that's something clearing the white house by august. my friends, we just heard from the white house this is being pushed back a little bit, maybe for very good reason. maybe repeal and replace obamacare thing, a legitimate reason. dealing with all the budget vagaries, a valid reason but i'm telling you, that is a big deal

because if we're suddenly now in the month of august. then you have to worry about trying to get approval in the house and the senate, and you go through the budget reconciliation process requires a simple majority to get this thing passed, those are a lot of exact pieces that have to fall, into place. and, that might not be ready for instant consumption. so no -- [speaking french] i love that. we have a lot coming up, including the dow chemical ceo, andrew liveris. he is from australia. early on not a huge fan of this president but pragmatic. taking over the mt. 's advisory council he is keen on protecting jobs here and abroad and expanding those in the united states even though the company had to jettison workers of late. we'll get his read and all these other manufacturing ceos. blake burman keeping up with all

the fast-changing events and those beatings at the white house. blake? reporter: incredible scene here at the white house. two dozen ceos in the manufacturing industry who have been here better part of two, three hours t started this morning over at the executive office building, just behind my camera, adjacent here to the west wing. they broke up into different groups with senior administration officials, discussing among themselves things like tax cuts, things you talked about, regulatory reform and job creation. then you see all them seated around the table together and the president talking about manufacturing and jobs, trying to keep jobs here in the country and there was a few, a few light exchanges i guess you could describe it between the president and some of the ceos. one being the ceo of united technologies who is the parent company of carrier.

you know that story. listen to this here. >> ceo of carrier. >> did you bring back more of those jobs from carrier? one thing you did, i said you were given so much credit for, and i heard two days ago that you're selling far more carrier air conditioners than you thought, just as patriotic move. people are buying carrier because of what you did, bringing jobs back to indiana. >> exactly right. great success. >> i said that. i thought that was going to happen. reporter: hovering over all of this, neil, jobs and taxes an interview with treasury secretary steve mnuchin in the interview with maria bartiromo earlier this morning said the tax package or the tax cut could be pushed toward the end of the year, if not further. here is mnuchin. >> tax reform by august is very aggressive position. we'll get it done.

we were not ready to take on tax reform right away. i don't see why you think people were disappointed in order of that. the markets are speaking in a lot of confidence in the trump administration. reporter: neil, we got to sit in on the initial meetings over at the executive office building, one thing i would add to all of this, one consistent theme we her, the ceos talking about the need for deregulation. neil? neil: you know, blake, i may be caught up in semantics here when mnuchin is saying a package by august, he is not saying a complete overhaul done and complete by august, right? he is saying it well clear the hurdles and we'll have something for a vote then? that then becomes a 2018 event, does it not? reporter: it does. here at the white house they talk about fiscal year 'seven teen versus fiscal year '18. they're saying obama care fiscal '17.

tax cuts, 'fiscal year 18. the question if it is end of year event and gets signed off by the congress and signed off by the president, when does the all go into place? '17 or '18, neil. neil: blake burman. what is getting obsessed over these dates and what they mean? keep in mind the kevin brady the man who runs the house ways and means committee discussing all of this. this went back to a simple notion, you get it done, or at least something out there before summer. then there is a good chance, whatever you come up with, tax policywise, would be retroactive to january 1. the further you push it back, let's say it is now the fall, further push back from there, the chance of it being retroactive, probably not so good. how is that going down on the cpac conference going on?

this guy is rock star when he stops by, senator jim demint, from south carolina. senator, what do you make of that? if this is delayed, mnuchin raised a good point, if the markets were worried about this, i'm paraphrasing senator, they have a funny way to show it, i don't think they weighed magnitude of something that could be in effect in 2018, not 2017. what do you think? >> neil, i'm beginning to worry about the inaction in congress. i know how the senate works, and i know how business works. if we start talking about cutting taxes next year, businesses will hold back, defer profits. we're going to see the economy slow down this year in anticipation of having a better tax system next year. they need to act now, neil. they need to repeal obamacare and begin the process of improving our system. if they wait till summer, it

won't happen. if they wait till later in the fall, there is only about a month or so after the august break for things to get done, and then, congressman will be squeamish about doing something next year because its an election year. so they need to get moving. the senate is out on recess, when they need to be working seven day as week to keep up with the trump agenda. so it is time for congress to move. neil: you know, senator, if it turns out that they can not pay for these tax cuts, i know there is a raging debate, i get it from viewers all the time, neil, it is our money, you don't have to pay for our money, i understand the heat on both sides of this issue, but if the import tax is going nowhere, seems, senator, for the time-being, it is going nowhere, that was going to pay for a lot of this, maybe even infrastructure work down the road, but if that is going away, can you as a budget hawk in your own right, were when you served there, can you live where that?

>> yes, i can, neil, because i know if you score as we call it here tax cuts, history shows that it actually increases revenue over a period of time. so getting the economy going is the openly way to deal with our deficit right now. we need to get regulations out of it. we need to lower our tax rate. we need to make it more profitable to produce in the u.s., by taking taxes out of things that we export. there are a lot of things we're doing, and it needs to be a tax cut, neil. this idea, it needs to be neutral is not going to get the economy going. neil: yeah. >> we take too much money out of the economy right now. if we want to deal with the budget deficit, we need to get the rates low and the economy going. neil: i'm reading between the lines here, senator, if you indulge me from the mnuchin interview and other venues he has been on discussing tax thing, he is seems to be dialing back the notion that the rich, net-net, get no big tax cut.

before we'll limit their deductions and writeoffs, going from 40% to a top rate of 33%. they won't see he any meaningful tax cut with that. obviously crunched number, you can take all the deductions away if you're cutting rates that much, they will see something. what do you think of that debate? does it matter. the administration is leery saying the rich will get a disproportionate tax cut because they pay more anyway or what? >> well, as you know the rich pay most of the taxes already. any kind of tax cut is actually going to give them a bigger tax cut in total dollars. neil: right. but you just had mitted you said that you admitted they said that. i don't think it is evil to state the obvious there but they dance around it. >> but, neil, the important point of what you're saying here is that the personal side of the tax reform is going to be much more difficult.

we could probably get some bipartisan support for lowering the business rates, simplifying the code. that is something i think we could get done first that would have the most effect on our economy in creating jobs. then we can have a longer fight of how we actually simplify the personal tax system. neil: senator, thank you for taking the time. always appreciated. jim demint. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right, meantime the stocks are in record territory. so to the treasury secretary's point here, the markets don't seem to be worried about the timing of this. i only mention it because it does get pushed back further and further. we're now past the half year point. this is not a holy grail or did i -- dividing line whether the markets are factoring that they would be as big as they want them to be or they will be paid for with import tax that doesn't

look it is going to happen. a lot of things put into place and timing was sort of etched into stone, not so much now. yet to mr. mnuchin's point, look at stocks. they don't care. i just point it out because i kind of do. more after this. the

south of border of mexico. we're keeping eye on rex tillerson, secretary of state. he is meeting with top mexican officials. he will align the mexican. they insist they will not pay for any wall. that is what they say. furthermore they think that the administration's approach to dealing with illegals is bigoted and something they want to bypass the united states and appeal all the way to united nations. cheddar ceo, john steinberg, on all these crosscurrents. john, first of all on the ceos, some supported hillary clinton in the election, had

doubts about donald trump but everyone is pragmatic in the end, he is the president, working with this president. they're optimistic what he is talking about, tax cuts, regulatory relief, is perfect for what they need. but, how doable is it when the date gets pushed back constantly on these tax cuts? what do you think? >> i mean i took august as a sign this morning from mnuchin as a positive. look, the market is obviously viewing it as a positive today as well too. if you told me we would be at 20,800 standing here towards the end of february, just having broke 20,000, i don't think anybody would have guessed that. neil: you're right about that. >> most people are happy the wheels are in motion. neil: i eye free -- agree, you follow this stuff closer than i. if this gets pushed back much past the half of the year,

markets to your point don't seem to mind. i'm reading from our white house correspondent that is when a package is out, not necessarily voted on, this is really a 2018 event. that is a midterm election year. i do not mean to dismiss this, disparage this, but i wonder if this gets caught up in midterm election hoopla and gets watered down, stymied, what do you think? >> neil the i think the fact anything is happening, what candidate trump said now as president trump is in motion the market is taking postively. whether 17 or 18, gets held up, we would have no tax cuts under the other administration this is exciting. i saw the president over the weekend at the golf club.

they want to be on the president's good side. keep in mind they weren't all big backers of him. andrew liveris, said of mr. trump, candidate trump about a year ago, that he was the kardashian candidate. he couldn't envision him becoming president of the night. well he has. and pragmatic fellow that he is and a lot of the other fellows are, they work with him. mr. liveris made the line, rallied around a lot of ceo's like what he is saying about cutting regulations and cutting taxes. being supportive of u.s. manufacturers. that is was particularly for a lot of folks in that room, heavily, heavily regulated. mr. liveris was not very complimentary of barack obama about a year ago saying that twas the most regulation-prone administration he could ever remember.

so i guess he just is a fair and balanced basher of those in that office but again all trying to work with the latest occupant of the white house. read from all this of the manufacturing perspective, jay timmons, president of the association of national manufacturers. his team was represented. he is a big cheese and could walk into the white house anytime he please. but he is in new york. >> he i am. neil: we're honored. this -- with manufacturers, so much depends on keeping true to his word, cut regulation, cut taxes, hints today that both are still on the docket, some could be pushed back. does that bother you or your members? >> look, this president has proven everything he can to do exactly what he can during the campaign and i have to say the today' meeting at white house was meeting of nam board of directors.

almost every member of that group is very active in the nam, and these are issues we've been talking about and i was particularly pleased our chair, david farr, with emerson, the ceo of emerson had a chance to lay out the nam platform and agenda. our former chairman was there. mario longy was on our executive committee. they talked about as you mentioned regulatory reform, tax reform, infrastructure investment. these are things that will help drive economic growth and make us more competitive as manufacturing sector here in the united states. neil: but again a good many of them have been forced to lay off workers, not to the degree that many thought months ago but still, you know, in the case of dow chemical, you total up about 4,000, maybe 5000, indicating an expansion that it wants to still see in this country, but these have not been easy times. now you have a president who has been saying don't let the jobs leave america. it's a double edged sword. >> here is what he he said,

which is so great, why i actually, i watched coverage at beginning of this meeting. neil: a requirement they all golf? is that understood? >> probably why i wasn't there. what was so great about that discussion was an understanding, if we're able to do these things, if we're able to completely reform our tax code, if we're able to significantly get our arms around regulations -- neil: you might not have to lay off people. >> not only that. you create investment and create more jobs here in the united states. you can compete in the global economy. on regulations this is what dave farr told the president, 297,696 regulations directly impact manufacturers. almost 300,000 regulations. that is costing small and medium-sized businesses $35,000 per year per employee for compliance cost. neil: he said he wants to cut

regulations down substantially, big league as he put it, 75% s that doable? >> you know what? i was chief of staff for governor george allen in virginia. we had the exact same focus making sure regulatory burden was fair and balanced and over the course of his four years in office we ended up reducing or eliminating 75% of the regulations in the state. it is absolutely doable if there is a focus from the top. the president clearly indicated he has that focus. neil: are you worried about the delay in the tax cut thing? that it could be an august event, maybe a fall event? >> i never heard it would be august. neil: really? >> anybody how the this would happen immediately is not a student of congress. congress will deliberate this. neil: what about 2018 event, how do you feel about that? >> whatever we do, especially when you have, when you have reform that is so significant, you're going to want some sort of a a transition period anyway. it makes sense.

that is what happened in the 1980s. i'm sure -- neil: not chagrined or bummed out? >> no, we're very optimistic. we're in the middle of our state of manufacturing tour and we're going all over the country and what we're hearing from manufacturers they're optimistic about the future because for the first time they feel like the administration, this president is listening to them. they haven't had somebody listening to them for a long time. they think congress is aligned with their objectives. this is our moment, manufacture manufacturing's moments. neil: thank you very much. we should point out to jay's point, this pow with you with ceos, this president in a little more than 30 days, had 11 of them. 12, if you count a smaller group. barack obama throughout his eight years in office had 19. some perspective right there. we have alltech dio. you heard him outside of white house. he joins us right now. great to have you.

>> great to be here. neil: you sounded very encouraged about that meeting. i'm wondering was there an extra spring in your step? looks like this import isn't going to happen. i'm not saying that that wouldn't be beneficial to your industry. it is not going to happen now and the great debate would seem to be over. what do you think? >> let me start first and foremost telling how positive what is happening here with the administration and his team is for american business and most importantly the american people. because he's focused on creating jobs throughout this country and, the team that was put together and the enthusiasm and the outreach was really unprecedented. in fact there has been more outreach by this administration in the last, in the first 30 days, than during the past eight years of the previous administration. neil: in your case, you make

telecommunications business is far-flung conglomerate you run there obviously. i'm wondering if you have given or the president had asked you to give him time? in other words if you're thinking about laying off workers i don't know what your own plans are, sir, but the message that i hear he gives at these meetings is, give me time. don't do anything rash. don't start jettisoning workers. is that a message that comes up? >> it's a definitely a message. it is about growing jobs. it is the opposite of that. this is very positive and encouraging. let me give you a little background. we broke out into individual workout groups. the vice president was involved. the secretary of treasury, the secretary of transportation, all of, the president, all the top leadership, jared, ivanka, all the top leadership in the administration was there helping facilitate saying we want to work together with business to

create jobs throughout america. it is one of the most uplifting experiences i've been associated with. neil: obviously a lot of your colleagues have been waiting on this regulatory relief. it's a big problem for you. you have addressed it, i know many times in the past. also tax cuts. they are still coming. they might be bushed back a little bit, when all said and done fiscal year '18 event, '17, who knows, but if the rates didn't come down as quickly as you want, didn't come down as much as let's say even the president wants, how would you feel about that? in other words he wants a top rate or low rate for corporations of 15%. it might be 20%. might be even higher than that, but still substantially lower than what it is now. do you have a sweet spot? >> i think clearly the, you have to begin with where are business taxes in the u.s. relative to

our global competitors and it's a clear disadvantage to american business. obviously lower is better, in terms of freeing up capital to reinvest in america but we're most focused on the fact, look, it has been 30 years since there has been substantial changes to the tax code. and this is a unique opportunity to put american competitiveness back on a global front. neil: you are saying that a 20% rate is still a lot better than a nearly 40% rate, and you'd be okay with >> well, you know, clearly, you're talking about major, major dollars, but the most important is the fact that we're addressing business taxes across the board, and saying how do we help make the u.s. more competitive. ultimately, how can the president and his team create more jobs. neil: have you changed any financial plan based on what the president has been indicating and promising?

do you change your posture with the big cuts in taxes that the president is setting goals for or do you hold off? >> this administration is committed to making these changes. there is clear momentum within the country to address the overregulation of government. if you look at just regulatory pullback, pulling back overreach of regulation, you're looking back at 100 basis point potential impact on gdp. you can't, the economic impact. look at impact of the stock market. look at consumer confidence. right now, there is a lot of incredible enthusiasm because, it is okay to be in business today, whereas it used to be almost, a bad word. and so. that kind of change and culture

created incredible momentum within this country. fantastic most importantly for the american worker and those that are had part-time jobs, opportunity to have full-time employment through initiatives, in terms of workforce participation and workforce education. we talked about most importantly, four main areas, workforce of future, deregulation, infrastructure and tax and raids. those were four main breakout groups. impact of economic regulation, huge, huge impact, conservatively 100 basis points of gdp annualized growth. neil: all right. >> if you look at infrastructure, you say infrastructure spend, if you do three to one, every dollar you spend in infrastructure, you get a three-time positive impact in terms of gdp growth. it is just -- neil: that is if you get the infrastructure thing. we'll see.

lee thank you very, very much. very good having you. >> thank you. neil: looking at lee speaking here, maybe he added to bullish sentiment, look what is going on with the dow jones industrial average, looking at, its 10th straight gain, and 10th straight march into record territory here. the you dow around 20,831. we're 169 points from 21,000. that would be the fastest, one you thousand point leap we've seen in, could happen today, tomorrow, no way of knowing. similarly watching very muchments south of border right now, trying to get calm down there. mexicans are furious with president trump, saying he will not pay for the wall he keeps pushing, for that matter, his

immigration policy which will be officially unveiled today or tomorrow at latest is bigot and not fair. so they do not plan to comply. they plan to protest all the way to the united nations. back to washington and another visitor there, you saw him coming out with ceo, dow chemical's ceo, andrew liveris, he met with the president today at this big manufacturing pow-wow. andrew, you were encouraged, i know you said about a lot of things you heard out of this president. i guess things have come a long way from the views you had of him about a year ago when i know you were commenting, in the aggregate about the american election cycle saying that at the time about a year ago, knee deep in these primaries it was bringing us the kardashian presidency. you weren't referring to donald trump by name but you were saying that the process itself was kind of crazy. here we are the winner of that craziness. how do you get along with him now, how do you find what he is doing now?

>> well, getting along absolutely, very, very well. when i was asked to do this clearly what the president has is this ability to move forward. he doesn't look back. he looks at what's possible and obviously he's got this amazing opportunity to get many of us engaged whether we were friend or foe, for or against, doesn't matter. that is all in the rear view mirror. the front windshield of this is the growth economy. he has his priorities. obviously one of them is jobs and jobs in the manufacturing sector. that is a sweet spot for me personally, our company, dow, many of manufacturers in this country who just spent another couple hours with he and his cabinet, really talking through what sorts of policies need to be put in place to encourage us to invest here, to reverse the decline of manufacturing. and frankly, very constructive, very engaged, very business oriented, very open it new ideas. and he spends the time. he doesn't delegate it. he is there in the room. two meetings we've had now.

he has given us substantial time. he is listening to us carefully. today was very structured session that was very, very positive, with lots of actions to come out of it. neil: if you just indulge my political curiosity, sir, i know you served on a council that advised president obama. you're friends with bill and hillary clinton, but you are also a very pragmatic businessman and worked very closely with both parties. weighing this president and doubt you may have had and others that might have shared together doubts particularly back in your native australia where relations came off to chilly start with that famous phone call, do you think things are better now? are you reassured what you've seen. >> dow in the last several years has been on a growth tear. we've been investors. $6 billion in the u.s. alone. we did that under president obama.

we're veryngaged with governments everywhere in the world. we understand red carpet economies versus red tape economies. president obama heard from me and other ceos how this is red tape economy. this is one of the greatest economies if ever the greatest in the world. the opportunity to grow it even more than the 2% rate is there. and what i have noticed about this president is that is what he want to do. he is very reaganesque with the commentary around growth will forgive a lot of other things. the economic policies we work on at dow regulation, tax, trade, infrastructure energy, workforce for the future, that is the agenda. i will tell you, this president, whatever anyone ever thought of him before, he wants that conversation, and i will tell you i'm very pragmatic to your point. i'm neither red nor blue. i'm purple, if that is a term politically.

i am very engaged with the political process because governments can help or hurt business and our company is in 160 countries. i travel everywhere in the world and engage with governments. to the extent i get asked questions on the geopolitical side i have my personal opinions, but for dow, what we're doing here, in terms much making dow a great company in this country and around the world, i like what i'm hearing and i want to work on that. neil: we understand you've been waiting for official word from european regulators on your merger with dupont. i assume that is still looking like a go? >> look, you saw the report the other day out of the commission. we've been engaged, dow and dupont for a fair while. the last month or so has seen significant progress. we have very, very much in the thinking that this will close in the first half and sometime in the late second quarter, but we are definitely encouraged what is going on in our conversations with the ec. neil: separately, sir, you've

been on a tear earnings wise. 17th executive quarter of improving operating earnings per shares. your sales -- you've been cognizant of the bottom line and over the summer, in back-to-back months you announced four thousand layoffs. you committed to some u.s. expand here and you haven't delineated that and hough much. i wonder when you meet with the president and discuss with the president does he bend you to say, cool it on those layoffs, to mitigate that, what? >> the last you referred to our integration after we acquired dow corning. we have very simple explanations, back office, shared services, those sorts of jobs are disappearing but the jobs reappearing are the ones we're investing in and growing. i haven't had that conversation with the president you but if asked pretty simple i'm putting

in place stem jobs, r&d jobs. we announced a new r&d center in michigan. neil: i guess i'm confused, sir, these are new jobs, whatever is saved and done, the losses with overlap with dow corning you have net more people than you did before? >> look, i've been ceo a dozen years. we're almost three times our market cap and we are almost, you know, 1/3 again on our workforce. we've been a growing company in this country, and obviously some done through acquisition. some amount of downsizing but the now it is organic growth. our r&d engine is most innovative. we won 700 r&d awards, number of one out of the any technology company in the country. neil: real quick and i know you have to go, president is planning big tax cuts. they might be pushed back a little bit. always in the eye of the beholder, the markets don't care if they're delayed as long as they happen. i imagine you subscribe to that same view, i wonder whether it

makes a difference to you whether the corporate tax rate being bandied about, 20% on the hill, the president we're told wants 15% but you could live with 20%? >> look, we would love 20%. we would love 15% even more. we are proactive investors because we're a energy value adder, so the natural gas prices here help us a lot but we could do a lot more in the downstream if there were a lower corporate tax rate. so we're very, very keen seeing that corporate tax rate come down from its high heights today. neil: finally on regulations, this president has been very keen on that. you've been very keen on that. this couples with the import tax thing we've been discussing or hearing bandied about the hill, that might not happen now, how do you think that is going to fall out here now? retailers were and still are against it. but it was going to pay for a lot of stuff the administration has wanted to do. any thoughts on that? >> yeah, look, we're proborder adjustment tax.

every country in the world pretty much has some vat of some sort that plays like a border adjustment tax. it is totally not fair we pay something going into one country as importer, where they don't pay coming into this country. i think some pay-for like that is in offing and president and cabinet secretaries involved. whether exactly the way the house plan is or not, we don't know. we are pro the house plan. we'll certainly keep lobbying for it, we do believe, net-net it will make us more competitive as exporters from this country. neil: mr. liveris, pleasure having you. thank you for your time. dow chemical ceo andrew liveris, very key player in the whole manufacturing turn about in this country and he is helping this president lead that effort. all right, so you heard of who's who of manufacturing corporate america. they have been on this show. they have been on my colleague and friend trish regan's show. they joins me right now.

to a man or woman, trish, good to see you, whether 15%, whether 20%, a heck of a lot lower than it is now and we'll hold back on layoffs if this comes to fruition. what do you think? >> without a doubt anyone in business is not going to look a gift horse in the mouth when it comes to tax cuts. whether it is 20% or 15%, sign me up. neil: yeah. >> in reality we have, when you factor in the state and local level taxes as well the largest corporate tax rate in the world, and if you want to be competitive in today's word, then you have got to recognize the fact that other countries are more competitive than us when it comes to taxes. so from their standpoint they're looking at this saying, look anything is better than where we are. whether it is 15 or 20, but hey, i will also take 20, it is in their interests. as far as layoffs go, if they know they will keep more of their money they will say to themselves, maybe i can pad this out a little bit.

maybe i have a little bit more wiggle room because i will have that much way in the profitability more than i currently have. neil: what do you think happens at white house powwows? you have been to the white house. it can be a intimidating place. all of sudden you're sittings down with the president and you have breakout groups and i can't imagine they don't leave that without a sense of awe, no matter who the president is. this guy seems to have our back, we'll have his what do you think? >> i think in this particular case, for example, they gave empty promise, no -- neil: exactly, i'm. >> exactly i'm not cutting any jobs if you give me tax cut. if the tax cut comes through and then they were to follow through on jobs cuts they promised the p wouldn't do, yes, he would be tweeting about it. so he has got the ability to influence them in a pretty big way. and really call them out. but that also works both ways,

you think about some ceos who have run into trouble by expressing any kind of optimism about these economic policies. think about under armour for example. there have been others at that have been criticized heavily. neil: absolutely. what i like about liveris, very practical, pragmatic guy. a friend of the clintons. liked a lot what barack obama had done but he wants to see his company succeed, his shareholders do well in this country by extension do well. so whose ever running however it can be done to advance the ball he seems to be for which seems to be the pragmatic business approach. >> i will use your phrase that you have coined so well when you describe our network and it is not that we're red, not blue, but we're green. and i think when it comes to ceo's, it is the same kind of thing. in other words they will work with whoever they needwork with to do best for economy. neil: they said a range of stuff, then candidate trump a year ago. i think you're exactly right. it is all about practicality.

are you noticing out of people you talk to real quickly about the tax cuts maybe being pushed into summer fall, maybe not retroactive this year, maybe a 2018 event? everyone i've talked about, we can live with that, deal with that as long as they come? >> the market is always anticipating things, right? neil: right. >> the market is epaing we will get tax cuts. so as long as that is in the cards, some ways i think people are willing to say okay, just get right, as long as we can anticipate it will in fact happen. and so i agree with you, i am hearing a lot. this is challenging stuff to get done, challenging stuff to get through. so long as it happens, that is what is important. neil: i hear you. >> people want something to look forward to. neil: i bet you don't get email like this. quick being a crepe hanger cavuto, you look like you're constipated. do we have to go there? >> no, we don't.

neil: she is friendly base of business. i will be ebenezer scrooge if you keep that up. more after this.

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neil: all right, reince priebus and steve bannon are expected to participate in a q&a there. that is a media moment, friends, which is why we want to bring it to you on basic cable. others will charge cor being, not here. we have your back. we have your back on the latest on tax reform. it's going to happen, it's still on. now i'm hearing it's like, you know, august thing which could make it a fall-voting event, which could make it a 2018 event. nobody seems specially worried about that delay so whom am i to mention that. some people say i look like a nay sayer and constipat, thank

you very much. i'm going to do it with jerry willis on report that is moving which is apparently is a first priority. >> first priority, niel. march 13thish for putting the bill forward. that was all the deadline. they say a bill out of the house, ways and means to the house by march. you can see how things are getting pushed back, pushed back, after that, think about it, it has to go to senate, so there are lots of moving parts to this.

lots of people who have to sign on not to mention the leadership in congress. i want to tell you the other thing that i learned from my sporting, there's con consensus development around some issues dealing with obamacare, eliminating individual and employer mandates, big support for that. people force today buy obamacare or penalized by taxes, the employer being forced to cover their workers if they hire 50 or more people. very controversial. 19 to 20 obama taxes, big support there for losing taxes, getting rid of those taxes, finally, they are talking a lot about positiverrable tax credit that individual americans can use to buy health care in the open market. secondly, the requirements of obamacare go away and you can buy a catastrophic plan if you wanted it or soup to nuts if you

wanted it. we are looking at how long this is going to take. the last word i heard out of the house by the end of march, niel. neil: all right. we will see that maybe marketing pencil in the calendar. [laughter] >> yes. neil: all ceo's have been gathering in washington, have been telling me they still have high hopes that late -- it's certainly never than ever. take a look. >> do you think things are better now or are you reassured by what you have seen? >> one of the greatest economies, forever in the world, the opportunity in this economy grow it even more for 2% rate, it's there. what i have noticed from this president, that's what he wants to do. in a way reaganesque. neil: all right, is that true. all the issue back and forth of

whether you get this immediately or delay, charlie gasparino. liz, what do you make of that, better late than never and this is well worth waiting for? what do you think? >> i think voters should feel frustrated that congress really hasn't done anything yet. at this point in the obama administration they already passed the 1 trillion-dollar stimulus bill, huge piece of legislation. neil: we are knee-deep in the middle of a meltdown, right? >> exactly. democrats should take some blame here too because they have really slowed the confirmation process, treasury secretary steve mnuchin, the slowest-confirmed treasury secretary in u.s. history. that is incredible to think and it's no wonder why tax reform is

getting pushed back and not going to be till august and mnuchin has advisers that need to be confirmed by the senate and will take time as well. there's still a lot of hope because president trump is a businessman. he's meeting with ceo's and he wants to get things done and lots of good climate for getting the corporate tax down. neil: you're right about that. charlie, that comes through one conversation with these guys, we are still going to get it and okay that we are going to get it. >> president trump trump, i call him the orange king. we have to point out there's conflict of interest. dow chemical needs regulatory approval dupont, did i get that right? all right. he does need a sign off from the president so he's not going to say anything bad about him. neil: a year ago he was critical

of the president, kardashian candidate. >> he wasn't president yet. neil: before you were a big deal, no one cared. >> did i care about you when i was at cnbc? no, now i kiss your rear every day. but any event, the -- listen, overall the macro is that it's very good and guys have to kiss up to him to get deals approved. neil: they like what he's saying. >> this is the one thing i will tell you today, mnuchin came out with the statements, you would think it's positive for the market, tax cuts are coming, even though he said august and not now, the markets traded down, marginally up. neil: he's a principle guy? >> mnuchin? that's a great question. i don't know. that's the problem with the

trump administration. neil: i think you know and you're not saying. >> i will come back at 1:30 with a pumpkin latte. neil: why can't you do it? >> it's like a laxative just so you know. neil: i'm looking at this and thinking -- >> i don't know. neil: you're right, it's impossible. >> i don't know where we are going right now. neil: these are the nasty emails i get. i swear they come from people at cnbc. >> i don't think you look constipated. neil: thank you very much, you're coming back. >> thank you. neil: they with live with this being pushed back a little bit, they can live with in this case of corporate tax relief not being as big as they thought. they like what they are hearing

out of this president, the message and even controversies around him, i always say the guys are not red or blue much like our philosophy, they are about making money. the companies can make a lot of money, the shareholders can make a lot of money and that's the great unifier, what do you think? >> it is a great unifier and i think they are putting hope in the fact that this would be good for american businesses, good american workers, put americans back to work. it always concerns, niel, having been in dc for the last in 16 years, having dad in congress, when they keep pushing stuff back and there's delay, there's delays, they are more excuses that start to build up. neil: bingo. that's a brilliant point. >> if we get it after the august recess, guess where they're going to be, they have to think about getting elected in 2018. we don't have all the time in the world and that's a thing of

some concern and people think we have the time in the world. at some point, niel, we have the white house, the senate, house, 33 governors, mansions, 70 of 99 legislators, if we don't do something of real benefit for the american people, we will be judged in the 2018 election. >> he's right. absolutely right. look at the market, the market is at 21,000. again, we made this point yesterday, that equates gdp growing at 3%, not at its current clip of 1.9%. the average. average of 3% and the only way to get that going is through fiscal stimulus. neil: that's the only -- >> we can't lower rates anymore. they are at zero to begin with. the other thing is how much -- this is where it gets tricky, i think the market will like a 20% corporate tax rate. let's say they don't get the 15%, 35 to 15 and go to 20 or 30, suppose they --

neil: it's what you're set on and how fast you get it to the next point. liz, i want you to react steve mnuchin was telling our maria bartiromo on border tax which goes through which looks increasingly like it will. maria: if the border adjustment tax creates uncertainty, you're going to have senators, i don't want border tax, it's too complicated. do you have a plan b? >> that's in the house plan, we are looking at it seriously, there are certain aspects that we are concern about it and certain aspect that is we like, again, when we come with the plan, a combined plan with the leadership of the house and the senate and the administration and something focused on growth and we would have listened to people's concerns and have taken them into account. neil: i read into that, we have no backup plan. >> it doesn't sound like it.

it's interesting because it's controversial, you have people like paul ryan for it and tom cotton who are against it. neil: manufacturing ceo's love it, retail ceo's all hate it. i don't think the votes are there for it regardless. >> right. but, you know, i think when trump comes down on one position one way or the other, i think he has the power to move these people in his direction as we have seen before. i mean, he's really moved the republican party into his camp on a lot of the different issues and if he -- if he really comes down in favor of it, i think he does have the power. he has a real sense of where the voters are. >> i don't think the voters want higher prices. >> they also want stuff made clear. >> when you talk about manufacturers, manufacturers here -- some like the border adjustment tax because they bring stuff from overseas to

compile -- i think thing is not going to pass and sold to the consumers, net, net, it's going to cost you a lot more money. they will have to figure out how to pay for the wall. neil: this has been sold as a tax hike to pay for tax cuts which is a little weird but i will work with it, but not going to happen anyway. so what happens? >> i'm not convinced of that. i'm not convinced of that. it depends on where trump comes down on this issue. neil: if trump pushes it, right? >> yes. yes. absolutely. if trump decides he wants this he will push very hard and the american people have going to have to decide, we are going to have to pay more, it'll cost us more, does it bring us more jobs and the american people are going to have to decide -- neil: i don't know. i respect the heck out of all of you and you as well, i worry because you're making academic argument for someone who is in a wal-mart and see it is price of

a good just surge by 20%. >> do you really think that's going to bring back more jobs? i mean, that's insane. neil: i don't know. >> think about what he's doing. he's thinking about -- neil: the administration is arguing that other countries do this and we don't. >> ryan's argument i believe and i could be wrong, it's basically on a balanced budget issue. he's worried about the deficit going through the roof. neil: all of a sudden this is dead and i could be wrong, the other guys could be right, but let's say that is dead, would republicans still push through big tax cuts at least in the near term unpaid for? >> it depends. this is where the president becomes a major player. he wants infrastructure spending and tax cuts and if he wants both, he's going to have to moderate both. neil: he won't do that. he won't do that. liz, the argument has been, i think, with the tax cuts dynamic scoring on all of this fancy

language that you brilliant reporters who cover this use, it's going to do the job and you might get deficits in the near term that are worst than they are now but they are going to get a lot better a couple of years later, isn't that the argument that the republicans will use going through with these big tax cuts even if you don't get the tax border thing? >> absolutely. coupled with tax reform. just the rules that the obama administration were trying to push through at the last minute just by delaying that, think of the size and scope of what that does to the economy and his executive order to get rid of two regulations for every one. that will drive a lot of growth and -- >> we don't know that, though. how do we know how much economic growth -- neil: well, i think she's talking just looking at the market reaction. >> the market reaction is

pricing in a 15% corporate tax rate and -- and getting rid of dodd-frank, i don't know about the marginal rules on the side. i'm just going to say this, this is a question not for me but paul ryan, would you agree to all tax cuts and all infrastructure spending, that's a albuquerque? neil: ned, you touched on what liz said f the president wants to, yeah, you will. >> no, well, i mean, charlie asked a good question, can we get infrastructure and tax cuts, something is going to give. neil: infrastructure won't happen this year. it's not going to happen this year. [laughter] >> it'll be much reduced. neil: the markets -- all right. ned, this was the genesis for all the horrible emails i have been getting emails about being a nay sayer and constipated.

you seem to be saying not necessarily, right? >> right. yeah. not necessarily. we will see. i mean, they're looking at expectations for the future, we will see what happens. i prefer some of the stuff that take place a lot sooner. the more time you push it back the more excuses they play and more chance of actually passing meaningful reform and getting what you actually want. if we push this back, people can have expectations now but until it becomes reality, i'm nervous. neil: what about it is pushed back, liz, it's not a 2017 event, it's a 2018? what do you think? >> i think it will be pushed back also. [laughter] >> it is a mistake. >> it's a disaster. neil: what's a disaster that is pushed back to 2018? >> yeah, it'll get pushed back, if it gets pushed back to 2018 and election year, these guys lose any ounce of courage that

they might have had. >> market is prices 3% growth. that's the only way to get it through fiscal policy. neil: i don't think they factor growth. they factor what they get in their greedy little paychecks. >> that's growth. their greed is our greed. we are all together. neil: i want to thank you very much, what a good bunch even you, charlie. we have a lot going on here because we are ready to hear from reince priebus and steve bannon. could be big stuff after this

neil: welcome back, they are called the odd couple of this

administration. i don't know who is felix and who is oscar and reince priebus and steve bannon, the chief strategist, i don't think we have ever seen them together at a venue speaking. can they do that without driving each other crazy? a little odd couple reference here. half of my staff is so young. you do, excellent. he does not understand the references to the odd couple either but he is a hill's editor in chief, bob, that's a paper view moment i'm looking forward to it. how do you think in every administration we focus on the intrigue and whose office is there and who has access to the president how often and when, play that out for me, how is it going? >> niel, where there's smoke there's fire but some of the stories have been overblown. we were writing about one of these issues and both bannon and

priebus got on the phone and said it's ridiculous. we are getting along. neil: you were writing a story and they decided -- >> yeah, it was very smart from the white house's perspective because they changed the story, they changed the story, hey, we are getting along and they turned the story around. it's very interesting. so i do think that some of the coverage out there has been a little bit overblown and at the same time they have to be on the same page if the president is going to get his agenda through congress, march and april are very big months as sean spicer noted yet in press conference. this is fascinating. it's going to be -- neil: it says a lot about you bob, modest than that you are. let's talk to him. let's try to slow this down. [laughter] neil: let me ask you about the latest, we had steve mnuchin on

this network and i'm surprised people are making a big deal, maybe for a big reason, maybe i'm the one who is, no guaranties, he didn't say, my interpretation, no guaranties, it's a 2017 event, could take effect 2018 event, the marks as you know are rocketing away and not caring, i guess they figure that even delayed they're not going to be denied, so all good, what do you say? >> as you know, niel, reforming the tax code is so hard. it hasn't been done since 1986. neil: that's right. >> george bush did it in 2002 where people got checks for $300 and that was political again use by karl rove. reforming the entire tax code later this year and even into next year that's a heavy-lifting and the odds are against them.

listen, they are shooting high, no doubt about it. neil: the repeal and replace in obamacare they are going to do in mass before they get to this, if that doesn't go well or looks bumpy, could there be a problem with the tax thing or no? >> no, i think it's the same thing with president obama that if he didn't get health care in his first couple of years -- neil: absolutely. >> people said you're not going to get anything done. it's very important even though they hurt them politically to get it done. if it's a stumble on obamacare and this is a heavy-lift too all of a sudden because people don't want benefits taken away, they promised this to voters, they've got to deliver and i do think it will hamper their tax effort. neil: power broker, my friend. the hill is working on this story and everyone and his uncle calls bob up. [laughter] neil: you have the juice. all right, bob, thank you very much. all right, we are awaiting reince priebus and steve bannon at cpac. the largest gathering of

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neil: we're waiting on multiple events. right now you're looking at cpac where we'll be hearing from reince priebus and steve bannon, the chief of staff and chief white house strategist respectively. also looking south of the border in mexico awaiting rex tillerson and others, prominent mexican officials, who he has been trying to, iron things out, the country is mucho annoyed at this administration, how it will handle the wall. mexicans say they won't pay for it, immigration vetting and targeting of i.c.e. agents they

say directly targets mexicans. they will not let it go unnoticed. we waste our time talking to you about it so we'll go to the united nations. it's a very dicey affair. meanwhile at the white house, you've been seeing who's who of corporate america, big manufacturing ceos, largely manufacturing ceos. we thought we would count the latest p.o.w. woes and all the ceos that this president has met in just the last month or so. a dozen times the president has had these type of gatherings over the last 30 day, right? 11. no, you're wrong, it is not 12. barack obama, i can barely read that, is that 15 or 19? was it 15? young people say, he can't see! anyway, that is over eight years. look at even president bush,

presumably a friend of the big business, a fraction of that. so if donald trump to maintain this pace of meeting ceos, 11 in 30 days, well, he would have and i done the math,748 meetings. i just made that up. blake burman joins me from the white house. that is impressive number a month into this white house, that many big ceo meetings. reporter: i've been here every day, neil. it feels like 1100. these folks come in and out of here, just about every three days now? because we're probably at 30 days or so into the administration. today was latest example. two dozen, 24 ceos. you're talking about some of the most big, powerful companies here today. today on manufacturers that were here and it was interesting, neil, i got a little bit of a

glimpse inside because the folks here allowed us to go into the meetings. you saw a little bit of the president in that roundtable in the west wing. before that there was a gathering with top administration officials and these ceo's. we were allowed to go in. 15 or 20 minutes or so, move around and observe all of this and see how they interact with the administration and how the administration interacts with them. at one point, while we were there, it was the price president, keep in mind he is in a lot of these meetings, he popped his head in to show face and know he is there as well. neil: that you become a big star, that they asked to take a picture with you. reporter: selfie. they say -- neil: i knew it. thank you, my friend, very, very much. in the meantime, one of my producers is reminding me we can't show anything in the camera anymore for popeye he can't see it. i heard that sue.

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neil: all right. you are looking live at mexico's foreign minister. he just wrapped up a meeting with secretary of state rex tillerson and homeland security secretary kelly. he is hopeful that the u.s. and

mexico can bridge their divide and these two gentlemen went a long way doing just that but they're still far apart on the administration's plan to crack down on illegals, coming into our country and we argue, from mexico. let's listen in. >> translator: we mentioned this and we have expressed this to the secretary of state and the secretary of the homeland security. secretary of state, dialogue with the united states must be comprehensive approach. this is to say he has to include all topics. this is why this is really important to have the presence of the secretary of state. the secretary of state has faculties and power to see at a comprehensive approach, the rerelationship between the foreign minister and the department of would be the main

access for articulating this dialogue, a dialogue that will include all topics, migration, security and of course trade. this last topic has been, hasn't been toughed yet but we are -- touched yet but we're planning to start in the future months as we have explained. i would like to focus on the immigration topic. we expressed to both secretaries tillerson and kelly, first of all our concern to respect the rights of mexicans living in the united states, more specifically that human rights and we have listened to concerns on both of behalf of secretaries and very positive situation that we will face this topic with the

mechanics and with dialogue that will continue growing between both of them. we've also talked about the legal impossibility of a government to take decisions that will affect another government unilateral fashion, therefore, there is a need for this type of decisions that undoubtedly affect both countries, it would be the result of an agreement, and a dialogue and this is a fundamental principle that woe have -- [inaudible]. and i would also like to mention a very insignificant coincidence that it, that concerns central america. for all of us the immigration phenomenon, it is completely different.

mexico had to stop at origin of immigration people so to be a transit country. a country that are in the northern triangle of el salvador and the main [inaudible] we have to assume both governments, mexican government and the united states have a shared approach, an approach that will not only, lead to the immigrant migration practice but can cover the different issues and we have a agreed that in the next month we will assemble for a meeting together with mexico and the united states, we will invite other countries in the region such as canada and other countries from central america

to hold a very constructive dialogue and that -- [inaudible] whether we can solve the different causes of migration. it's, it will be a long -- agreements with the united states but today we have a taken a good step. the differences between mexico and the united states are still there and we must work to reach agreements that will serve both interests. to overcome the aggressions to overcome the negative feelings that are prevailing now adays more than words but what would be most important are the facts and today we have traced through

different facts, and actions will consolidate the relationship between mexico and the united states and joined work and, reliable friendship and relationships. thaw very much. and welcome, again to mexico. thank you mr. secretary. now we will invite secretary tillerson. >> thank you very much. , and my good luis. i am delighted to be in mexico city and i'm particularly pleased that secretary kelly traveled with me so we could have very comprehensive discussions of issues of great importance between our two countries. as i shared with others i am a native texan. i was born in texas and spent almost all of my life living in texas, so mexico all of my life has been a very close neighbor and i have a great affection for

the mexican people. so i'm really pleased to be here. we have just concluded very productive meetings last night and this morning with our counterparts, the secretary of government lesorio, secretary of foreign relations, and secretary of defense secretary james mattis, secretary of the navy, admiral sivlerone, secretary of finance and public credit mead. during the course of our meetings we discussed the breadth and challenges and opportunities between the u.s. and mexico relationship the although our two nations share a long history, our visit was forward-looking, focusing on common interests that would advance security and economic well-being. in our meetings we jointly acknowledged that in a relationship filled with vibrant colors, two strong sovereign countries from time to time will have differences.

we listened closely and carefully to each other as we respectfully and patiently, raised our perspective concerns. our conversations covered the full range of bilateral issues. we reaffirmed our close cooperation on economic an commercial issues such as energy, legal migration, security, educational exchanges and people to people ties. we agreed our two countries sized the opportunity to seize on energy relationship. we worked with our commitment of law and order along our shared border and stop the transnationallists moving drugs and people into the united states. similarly we underscored the importance of stopping the illegal firearms and "bull" cash cash -- bulk cash originating into the united states and flowing into mexico.

no mistaking that the rule of law matters along both sides of our border. we recognized the existing u.s.-mexican cooperation to curtail regular migration both by securing mexico's southern border around supporting efforts of guatemala, honduras and el salavador through the alliance through prosperity to reduce violence and stimulate economic opportunity in the region. on this issue we discussed the importance of fair treatment of all of those in this transit. finally which universally agreed on strengthening institutional mechanisms. the meetings were the continuatino purposeful and productive exchange setting our two countries down a pathway to greater security and long term prosperity. we look forward to further meetings, perhaps in washington

d.c. to continue to progress our important discussions on these issues. both secretary kelly and i look forward to and are honored bit opportunity to meet with president pena nieto. >> translator: secretary, kelly, could you please come to the podium so you can address some words. good afternoon, secretary tillerson and secretary kelly, minister, representatives of the media. undoubtedly this is a very significant meeting as mr. kelly mentioned and. this is true, because as we mentioned, in the last years, mexico and the united states have shared the purpose of building up more prosperous and

safe region for all the people. the understanding, the stability and mutual respect has been the foundations which, and cooperation relationship has been filled. that has proven to be successful for both countries, from the point of view of the security and the immigration flows. this relationship has been strategic. this is why today we have expressed to the counterparts of the administration the need for building up dialogue, building up a dialogue to have -- from working. we already stated we did not agree on the different members instituted by the government of the united states that have immediate, that will affect mexico.

we have expressed our concern on the increase of deportations and, an before, the possibility of citizens of other countries that could be returned, or sent back to our country so they can out wait legal. all the actions that countries decide in their region and security and safety of migrations have, they go "beyond borders.." therefore we have to get to a consensus as soon as possible. the means much coordination and different mechanisms of cooperation that we have need that will set the needs of both countries. in this regard we insist maintaining -- schemes in a

orderly fashion so protect the human rights of all mexicans in your country. likewise we highlight the importance to continue a close relationship with other countries of central america. central america. to build up cooperation that can help us to have a good, regional development strategy. under this vision and this approach we also reviewed the mechanisms that have that help organized, terrorism, and drug trafficking. we already expressed the need to strengthen the exchange of intelligence as well as continues stop flow of weapons and money coming from the united states to hinder the of these indiscriminate groups causing great harm to our population.

expressing the needs of mexicans regarding safety in immigration, we found -- cooperation between both nations. for this cooperation to be possible and for both countries to benefit from this, it is necessary to create a better understanding with both nations. mexico needs the united states and the flights needs mexico. our nations will always be neighbors, therefore, it is the most -- [inaudible] equally and based on respect. both countries deserve and history has already shown that is the way to go. thank you very much. mr. secretary. we will invite mr. kelly.

neil: we are monitoring this event in mexico but we would be remiss if we didn't catch what is a big event in this country and washington and that is reince priebus and steve bannon on stage together addressing the cpac conference going on. let's dip into that. [shouting] [laughter] >> all right. cpac is known for having important moments and i think it's safe to say by a full room, just a couple of cameras, that this is one of those moments. [cheering] and i, i think the first thing that would be appropriate, after 30 days of running a continue all sprint is to thank these two guys for what they have been doing. [cheering] >> thank you. thank you.

[applause] >> hey, on that front, on that front, i also think it's a perfect moment to thank all of you for helping us elect when will be one of the greatest presidents that ever served this country. [cheering] because of your work, that he made it happen. >> i want to thank you for finally inviting me to cpac. [laughter] there is no, what was the name of the -- >> uninvited. >> the uninvited. >> many alumni out here in the audience. >> i didn't like the uninvited. >> here is what we decided to do at cpac with the uninvited. we decided to say everybody is a part of our conservative family. that is what donald trump has done to so many of us around the country politically. you guys have put together an amazing operation. you know, i know you all know this, but the last time a president came to cpac in his first year, it was

ronald reagan, st. ronald. in 1981. you put together, the president put together the most conservative cabinet we've ever seen according to our cpac rating. a few of us are pretty happy what looks like will happen on the supreme court too. so it is -- [cheering] let me ask you two, i'm looking in the back of the room as well, but let me ask you too -- >> is that the opposition party? [laughter] >> let me ask you two, we read a lot about you two. >> it is all good. >> i bet not all of it is accurate? i bet there are some things that don't get written correctly. let me ask each one of you. what is the biggest misconception what is going on in the donald trump white house? >> well, in regard to us two, i think the biggest misconception

is everything that you're reading. we share an office suite together. we're basically together from 6:30 in the morning until about 11:00 at night. >> i have a little thing called the war room. he has a fireplace, nice sofas. >> and it's, it is actually something that you all have helped build, which bring together and what this election showed, an what president trump showed, and let's not kid ourselves, i mean i can talk about data and ground game and steve can talk about big ideas but the truth of the matter is, donald trump, president trump brought together the party, and the conservative movement. i've got to tell you, if the party and the conservative movement are together, similar to steve and i, it can't be stopped. and president trump was the one guy. [applause]

he was the one person, and i can say it after overseeing 16 people kill each other. it was donald trump that was able to bring this party and this movement together. and steve and i know that, and we live it every day. our job is to get the agenda of president trump through the door and on pen and paper. >> we've known it since august 15th. if you look at the opposition party and how they portrayed the campaign, how they portrayed the transition, now they're portraying administration, it is always wrong. on the very first day kellyanne and i started, we reached out to reince, sean spicer, katie, it is the same team that every day was grinding away on the campaign, the same team that did the transition f you remember, the campaign was the most chaotic by the medias description, most chaotic, most disorganized, most unprofessional and no idea what they were doing and saw them

crying and weeping that night on -- [cheers and applause] and the reason it worked, the reason it worked is president trump. i mean trump had those ideas. had that energy. had that vision, that could galvanize a team around him of disparate -- look, the word coalition. a lot of people think, have strong beliefs about different things but we understand that you can come together to win. we understood that from august 15th. we never had a doubt, and donald trump never had a doubt that he was going to win. i think that is the power of this movement. >> on top of that, first of all, president trump laid out his vision, four or five years ago here at cpac. >> that's right. >> it was that vision, there is nothing different. if you go back and watch the tape of president trump four or five years ago, that was the trump agenda. one of the things i used to say all the time, governor walker, everyone gets sick of me saying it, i think president trump found it, which is what this

country, what all of us were starving for, the whole time because we're so sick of politics and politicians, in spite of the fact we love being here we hate politics but what we were starving for is somebody real, somebody again genuine. somebody who said he actually was. the media attacked us on the campaign. remember attacked me, you can't spend money on trump, give it to the senate. attract attacked us on the transition. president trump put in the best cabinet in the history of cabinets. feed ridiculous stories and all we do every day and a all president trump every day is hit his agenda, every single day. whether it is tpp, whether it's deregulation, whether it's neil gorsuch, whatever it is his promise is coming through every day. >> he is even leaving bathrooms alone. that is refreshing thing for a lot of people as well. >> happen to think it's a state issue. >> of course.

>> let's go back to the point reince made for a second. president trump when he was running, he made, this is the other thing that the mainstream media or opposition party never caught, if you want to see the trump agenda, it is very simple. it was all in the speeches. he went around to these rallies where those speeches had a tremendous amount of content in them. i happen to believe, many people do, probably greatest public speaker in large arenas since william jennings bryan. remember we didn't have any money. hillary clinton ad $2 billion. it was those rallies and speeches. all he did was lay out agenda with those speeches from the promises he made. our job is to execute on that. simply get a path how those get executed. he is manai actually focused. that is one of the powers of transition, many people try to come in convince president trump, you won on this, this is what you want to do.

no, i promised the american people this, this is the plan we'll execute on. and reince, by the way that is what you've seen, executive orders, supreme court, the way he has gone through the supreme court. by the way the other 102 judges that we're eventually going to pick, that is methodical, that is what mainstream media won't report. they were dead wrong on chaos of the campaign, they were dead wrong on chaos of the transition, they are absolutely dead wrong what is going on today. we have a team griping it through on president donald trump promised the american people. and mainstream media better understand something. all of those promise will be implemented. >> that is awesome. [cheers and applause] you know, steve, you're really likeable guy. you should do this more often. >> that is so bad. >> most of the time. >> so, what a 30 days of action, and you guys touched on some of that action. each one of you tell me the one or two things that happened in

the last 30 days that you think are the most critical? what is the one thing that you just, you said, steve that has to happen in the administration to turn the country around? start the first 30 days and what will happen after that? >> a lot happened in the first 30 days. >> a lot. >> when you look at the world order and some of the things that are going on that i think will be dealt with soon. the first thing i think is neil gorsuch, for a couple of things. number one, we're not talking about a change over a four-year about a change over a four-year period. more important than that it established trust, that president trump is a man of his word. 20 names on a piece of paper.

and and neil gorsuch represents the type of judge that has the vision and the promise he made to all americans across the country. second thing, deregulation, what hasn't been talked about is president trump signed an order that put in place a constant deregulatory form in the federal government and it says for every regulation presented for passage, the secretary identifies that person would eliminate and that is a big deal. lastly immigration. immigration. protecting the sovereignty of the united states. putting a wall on the southern