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arkansas. tomorrow night congressman doug collins,en greg abbott among ts. -- congressman greg abbott thanks for joining us tonight from new york. kennedy: the president's pick for the supreme court on capitol hill for his first day of senatorial grilling. how did he do? president trump warning republicans against voting no on his healthcare plan. tall as massie here to explain why he's still oppose. who is in charge of the democratic party? anyone? a nepoll has some startling suggestions. grab a lawn chair. time to soak in the sun. that cold supreme court seat is warming up after judge gorsuch
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was able to withstand the questions from the democrats. patrick leahy tried to pin him down on the executive order making its way to the court. >> senator, he has no idea how i would rule in that case. senator, i'm not going to say anything here that would give anybody any idea how i would rule in any case like that that could come before the spreem supreme court or my court of the tenths circuit it would be grossly improper of a judge to do that. kennedy: republicans engaged in partisan foot rubs and hand holding. >> i'm pleads the american people are about to learn why president trump choice as his nominee for the supreme court. i look forward to hearing from judge gorsuch and i encourage my colleagues to consider the nominee on the merits and nothing else. >> i think you are a man of the
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law, and i really want to congratulate the president to pick you. president trump could not have done better in choosing you. kennedy: senator dick durbin tried to make some illinois by doing this. >> will you stand up to this president or anywhere president if he fails to protect fundamental human rights. kennedy: he's been forthcoming of the role of the judiciary and cautioned against quote judge-knead doctrine for the abdication of the judicial duty. judges shouldn't defer to other branches. they should maintain judicial balance. another day to go. the panel will get to the first
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right now on kennedy. it's hard to question th qualifications of judge gorsuch, but will he satisfy a conservative desire to swing the court to the right, or is he a trojan horse moderate. joining me, it's my party panel of the ages. rhonreason magazine editor matt welch is here. let's take apart his performance. how did conservatives grade judge gorsuch as he had several interesting back and forths. >> i think they gave him an a plus plus plus to close the christmas story. he doesn't like hype threat kals as we heard in yesterday's
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testimony. the democrats were trying to give up these made up fictional scenarios and asking him to rule. he said no, i ruled in over 2,000 cases. go read them and get a sense of how i ruled. i thought he did a great job. like you said, the questioning was leaked on the part of the dem -- was weak on the part of the democrats. kennedy: did they ask the right estions? instead of worry being their own politics and how they see th world through their political lens which is all about self-preservation and raising money, did they ask questions a jurist would have to ponder for decades? >> dick durbin asked questions about the dissertation of his advisor from 30 years ago. you have 30 minutes to talk
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about all kinds of things, do you think the 14th amendment aflies this way or this way. he instead was trying to tar him as some kinds of possible racist by the transtough property of dissertation based on some craft someone he once knew wrote. kennedy: it was a line or two of homophobia in a deposition that his advisor gave decades ago. as i was watching that i thought gorsuch hand himself well. on a scale of harriet miers to judge thomas. >> he's done fine. he's going to pass, and it's clear by the democrats' questioning that they know that. so instead of trying to do anything substantively, they are trying to position themselves as the ones who nobly stood up to him and said he was against
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women or the little guy. >> where were they when he was unanimous live confirmed for his circuit court position. kennedy: how do you think he did in terms of having -- being the first nominein this ne administration at a ti when we'll see at least one other appointment. now do you think he did? >> i he played it straight. he came across as differential, and respectful and he came across as being truthful and honest. and he avoided stepping into anything that would have gone the him into trouble. there are a frost places where he could have -- there are a lot of places where he could have been a little bit more clear. he fell back on catch phrase it started to sound disingenuous
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after the third or fourth time he said it. but he did not step in any lands mines. it was a long day for him. and i think it's the best you can do. kennedy: we still have another day to see how he holds up. two days to go until that all-important house vote on the healthcare plan. 17 conservatives said on the record that they will vote no. by our count i count counts 22 s will sink the whole ship. president trump went to capitol hill to warn hesitant republicans that their seats to be in jeopardy if they don't help pass the bill. let me welcome back thomas massie. joining me now. getting sassy with massie. welcome back, congressman. i want to read you one of your
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tweets from today. you wrote, president at real donald trump visits this a.m. is the more charge than media would like you to believe. but i'm still no. he's worried about our elections in 2018. i'm worried about his election on 2020 if he puts his name on this and this becomes trumpcare instead of ryancare. it replaces subjects does, mandates and penalties with subsidies, mandates and penalties. the fda says lite beer has 67% of the calories of a real beer. and this bill has 67% of the subsidies of obamacare.
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kennedy: what is the most troubling aspect of the legislation. there is something the speaker can do to amended that trouble to bring you on board? >> the amendments they offered don't change much. the most troubling thing this bill are the subjects does. they are called advanced refundable tax credits. gnats money ghosts of straight to the insurance companies. it's welfare. instead of a refundable tax credit, i'm waiting for the day we call food stamps refundable monthly x credits. if they would replace that euphemism with tax deductions where people who go on the individual market deduct the cost of their plan just like the employers get to do, then i could be okay with that. that's a good compromise position for me.
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kennedy: that seems like a pretty straightforward exchange. taking the cost of your healthcare and putting it against your income on the tax return. i don't think that's going happen anytime soon. i don't think moderate senate republicans would accept that. between the unholy trinity of you, senator lamasse and senator paul, this any way this passes? >> there are four conservative senators against this and they can only afford to lose two. in the thousands, there are only 30 nos. so if this vote for today, they could only aforward to lose 21 of us on the floor. 30 conservatives are against this bill.
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they bert not have the vote tonight. and there are moderate against this bill that they are not talking about that much in the news. kennedy: they are discounting that. i spoke with congressman duffy on "outnumbered" and he was trying to make the big sell that there is enough free market influence in this legislation that you and other libertarian leaning or conservate republicans in congress should get on board with that. what do you say to his claim that there is enough free market sway here. >> there is no free market on this bill. we need to legalize cheap insurance. you used to be able to buy cheap insurance. they called it junk insurance. obama did. then he replaced it by something called a bronze plan which is junk for people who can't even use the plan. i say bring back the free market solution.
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there is nothing this bill that does that. kennedy: the only way to get less expensive insurance is opening up stated lines and allowing insurance company to the sell across the -- across the borders. >> the first basket is obamacare light, the second basket is tom price doing the regulatory stuff at hhs, and the third basket is the easter basket because the easter bunny is going to bring it it's not going to than unless we do it now. they are saying there are a lot of things we can't do because of the birdbath over in the senate. i think the birdbath is hogwash frankly. there are things they are doing in this bill like changing certain regulations but they say we can't change others. i say let's try. kennedy: i agree with you.
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deregulate. what grade would you give judge neil gorsuch today on the hill? >> that happened over in the senate and i haven't watched it. but without having watched it, i'll give him an a plus. kennedy: well done. uninformed and still optimistic. >> thank you, kennedy. i'm not sure that was a compliment. kennedy: it was, for you, always. that was a lawmaker's take on the healthcare debate. how will the plan affect your wallet and access to healthcare. brian brenberg joins me next. this is the silverado special edition. this is one gorgeous truck. oh, did i say there's only one special edition?
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kennedy: before the break we heard from thomas massie about the healthcare plan, i'm getting so choked up thinking about legislation. how will the gop plan affect you, your family, and your wallet? here to break it down is brian brenberg, associate professor of economics at king's college in new york city.
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we have to pick some winners and losers. i know congressman massie said he and several of his counterparts were going to vote no. let's say it pass, who are the winners and losers. >> the winners are people who are healthy and wealthy. they will get more tax credits under this plan than they will get under obamacare. kennedy: that seems counter intuitive that a socialized medical plan would help the healthy and wealthy. it seemed from the few books i read, that socialized medicine is supposed to help sickly people who can't afford it. >> that's the good tension piece. but the republican plan spreads tax credits around more broadly than obamacare did. you will get more of a tax credit than you did under obamacare.
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if you are an older individual with a lower income you will be 20% to 5% worse off. kennedy: that's so cruel. if you are going to help people, it should be the people who are least capable of getting help for themselves. and people who are poor and sick but who don'qualify for immediate care, it seems like that's a bad group of people to punish. >> the republicans will say we have an emergency fund we are going to grant to states to plug some of the hole here and we think we'll get more innovation in the market to create more competition and drive crown costs. but you still are giving more money to wealthy and healthy individuals. that's why congressman massie is looking at this and saying this isn't going to run long term. people aren't going to be interested in a program that cuts the benefits they have,
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even if there is possibilities for long-term benefits, people aren't going to like it. kennedy: he has to go back to his constituents in kentucky. saying those of you who are older and sick, we are dialing back medicaid, so you are not going to get help there. >> in the amendments last night, we are going to extend benefits. so they understand it's a problem and they are putting more subjects does on that. they want to get a buy-in from senate republicans. but at the end of the day it's a step one and step one means healthier, wealthier individuals will get more under obamacare. kennedy: it's weird when jim jordan and nancy pelosi sounds like they are having the same argument. >> the other critique is it's not a free market plan. that's what representative
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massie is saying. it moves slightly in that direction to say you can use the tax credits to buy any insurance plan. but it's not opening up the market. the phase two and three changes would do that. but nobody believes it will happen. if you can't get phase one done how will you get phase three done when you need 60 votes. kennedy: i understand amending and rolling back some of the regulations with tom price who knows healthcare inside and out. phase three which is the most critical is getle totally discarded and that's what would lower costs and improve care. >> you talked about rolling that into the reconciliation bill. why don't we try to put more of the regulatory changes into this bill now and see what happens. that's the kind of thing that
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can get some of the conservative republicans on board. kennedy: that's the type of obstruction i'm resentful of. there is a way to get some of the phase three into the reconciliation phrase. always breaking it down, making everybody smartr smarter. he's so good. north korea keeps trying to pick a fight. the latest jab, a propaganda video.
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kennedy: north korea threatened to attack u.s. aircraft carriers and planes, while they are coinuing to enrich uranium to build kes. there are self plans on the table, a single strike to halt a launch. a strike to disable their
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weapons. and war. the host of "the dark secret place," brian suits. when does kim jong-un's trolling cross the line? he released a propaganda video showing north korea blowing up u.s. navy ships and blowing planes out of the sky. >> just a few hours ago in geneva a north korean official flat out said we are accelerating our nuclear and missile program to include a first strike capability. there is a very liberal arms control expert who said let's face the facts.
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they are not testing anything. they are practicing for a nuclear war. they are practicing for a first strike. kennedy: do they go for the u.s. or go forjapan. >> the least amount of warning would be to south korea. they made specific threats that you see in that slick video against united states aircraft carriers, they specifically mention our facility in oak that what and japan -- okinawa and japan. we deployed the air defense system. hopefully the line going from the guy with the button to actually shooting it is very short. the north koreans announced we
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are not going to give you any warning. we are preparing for a strike. kennedy: he has suffered his people to death. he actively murdered his people and thrown them in concentration camps. more of them dies because of a war with us sound absolutely inhumane and unjust. >> he could not care less about your morality. he only suffered them so he can have three-stage missiles that can hit washington or south korea. he developed nuclear weapons instead of feeding this people and his people agree with him. hopefully this works and this nuke guess into the sea of japan or maybe it doesn't get off the pad.
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because the better option is hitting it off the pad. this is foreign policy damage control at this point. kennedy: how capable is north korea able to respond. >> there are so many conventional artillery systems on the dmz, there is nothing like it in the world. in single day in a spasm of suicide they could wipe out seoul. kennedy: they suck. i ink you are smart but i don't like the ones you presented. thank you for your time. kennedy: democrats champing at the bit, eagerly awaiting the
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party. at the top of the list, 40%. nobody. 40% said no one is in charge of one of the two major parties in this country. in second place former president obama with 1%. then bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and hillary clinton all the way at the bottom with 10%. the rest said anybody else including your mom. do democrats have a prayer in 2018 or 2020? glenn, where do you go from here? you have to look at this as nancy pelosi or i don't know, even rosie perez, and say we are in quite a pickle. and how do you have reinvent the party in a year and a half. >> if you are talking about the mid-terms you have got a lot of work to do.
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when you have both houses of congress and the presidency, it's easier to swing the party back in your direction. >> you don't have any new fresh phase on the sidelines ready to get in the game. they have a bench problem. kennedy: we talked about warren-sanders. kennedy: matt, you are a registered independents. around philosophical libertarian. you are a s characteristics on of philosophical crafting when it comes to the political realm. as an independent observer, what do you say to the democrats? >> they are screwed right now. they are so screwed that they only have 16 governorships. so the pends lum is going to
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swing because that's what pendulums do in a three-party system. trump is going to irritate people and have failures so people will vote for the other guy. but they are not doing so out of love or interest. if you don't have it at a state or lower level, you don't have it. the last two democratic conventions, the hot speaker tends to be antonio villarigossa. kennedy: does this give the republicans a false sense of security? does this make republicans complacent to see numbers like this?
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use it sams dangerous thing. i call it the dead cat bounce. they don't get there. that was an economic term. mayway, it's an economic term mass when stocks fall sometimes they have a little bounce. and the republican party this trouble and the millennials are majority non-white. when you look at 8% of black voters, a third of latino voters voted for republicans. they have to have a message that is universal and not this crappy identity politics. enemy loeven hurricanes lo saidt say identity politics the way the left does. i think the democrats will put
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forward cory booker and today strip newsome. but the republicans have an opportunity to give senator tim scott, congresswoman from utah, the first frism, it's just time to give way to new genation of conservatives of all colors. kennedy: we shall see how mainstream'has actually gone. speaking of smoking weed, mainstream pot is so mainstream that it could put a dent in booze profits. according to -- and this always very reliable source. source, 20% of american beer drinkers said if weed were legal in their states, they would purchase marijuana over:beer. and the american beer industry makes $100 billion a year in
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retail sales. so should bud and miller be worried about the bud being bought by a guy named miller? glenn, how mainstream is marijuana now? >> we are all beer drinkers. i think you have seen a lot of states decriminalize or make medical marijuana flel their states. i think that changes the dynamic quite a bit. the stigma and possibility of a criminal prosecution probably kept a lot of people thinking i'll go with the beer. but given the choice what this is about. we are seeing in the numbers, not just survey you cite. you are seeing in the numbers the people are take up for medicinal purposes and others. cern how worried is the alcohol industry and how much money are they putting into these
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anti-legalization campaign? >> they have as much in the anti-legalization as police people do. but it's not a high priority for them right now. i just said high pry sort talking about pot. jeff sessions is an old-style drug warrior. he doesn't have enough cops to do anything. but it's interesting to see how legal weed has changed consumption patterns. you feel like you are. >> kennedy is a health nut. kennedy: i do not ingest, smoke, bathe. you go to a store and it's like going to a craft brew market. kennedy: we are going to take a quick break and we'll be back
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kennedy: if you walked into a classroom and saw students working on arts and crafts and clawngs and par be and collages and partaking. that's a safe space at the university of arizona. the new faculty hand book is allowing teachers to establish safe spaces for sensitive kids. a student should say ouch if upset. they can create a collage of intergroup relations.
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share story time or, i'm not making this up. take a time out. yeah. that's in college. who is to blame here. the coddling schools. the super soft students other parents who cause all of this. matt, i will start with you. these young people, they are kids. they are emotional infants if they have to say oops and ouch. >> ouch. kennedy: these two ground rules to help students peel comfortable being honest. these people need to abdicate running anything. because they will run society into the ground. >> we both have daughters who are young i shall, not in high school. what do you do to them when they interrupt you at the dinner
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table with an ouch or change the subject. you tell them to shut up. you say you are interrupting. kennedy: sometimes your children aren't being very nice, they have to know they violated your safe space, too. in a public university people are talking. >> this is a waste of taxpayer money. thank god for peter still. they said the four-year university b.a. is a total scam. most people go to college right now to find them selves while they should be going to college to study something that will be useful and be used in the marketplace. and now they are graduating with $100,000 in debt. do i want to sit in a room and
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pay $60,000 so i can say oops? kennedy: i think we need dangerous spaces in college. >> you can't have a discussion and disagree with each other and have to go to our safe space. it goes beyond college. we are seeing that lack of civility in all ki of spaces. so some millennials who are particularly sensitive, there are a lot of surveys that show that. but this is part of the problem we have as a society, discussing thing we don't necessarily agree on. kennedy: they are hastening the apocalypse because they have been called their entire lives, and all the people who participate in this behavior, they won't survive in the wild. >> the generation after millennials is called generation z. what's half z.
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kennedy: nax? thank you so much. coming up, have fish begun sprouting human heads with plans to become land-dwelling mammals?
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