to invest in what they know even through etfs as we've seen. liz: pe, etfs. >> that's right. liz: barbara goodstein, tiger 21. [closing bell rings] the markets definitely get an honorable mention. the dow is down eight straight days. s&p tried to claw back. nasdaq sees a positive after being down more than 50. david and melissa. melissa: stocks trying a come back in the final hour of trading. the dow dropping as much as 184 points this morning. ending the day only 46 points down right now. the blue-chips down for the 8th straight day. that is the longest losing streak in more than five years. the nasdaq the only bright spot, david. david: i wouldn't say the only bright spot. look at comeback from triple digits. melissa: i will buy that. david: i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." we have you covered on the big market movers but here is what else we have for you during the hour. the pressure is on for the trump

agenda. after the failed health care bill the white house is moving on to the first tax code overhaul in three decades. will they get enough support behind the plan. attorney general jeff sessions, he just issued a warning to sanctuary cities and states announcing that new actions this afternoon will withdraw federal funding from areas that refuse to comply with federal immigration laws. new developments in the fight against isis. the pentagon sending 200 more u.s. troops to the region. among our guests this hour, wow, look at this, grover norquist, senator john kennedy, texas attorney general ken paxton, lieutenant colonel oliver north and radio talk show host larry elder. melissa: stocks rebounding after a sharp selloff in today's market open. the dow closing only about 45 points now to the downside. let's go straight to lori rothman on the floor of the new york stock exchange. lori, there was great concern we would see a huge selloff after the health care bill failed. not really the case though. what are traders telling you?

>> they're calling it crisis fatigue, melissa. been there, done that sort of attitude. the market came way back. we've seen the dips with other disappointments and other uncertainty, right? there is no follow-through. yes we're about the 600 points off the top of the dow jones industrial average but no signs of panic selling. now, if you unpack this a little bit, look at specific sectors you do see a tie-in into disappointment here on wall street that the president's health care plan did not pass, especially in the financials. so the financials which had been benefiting tremendously, the leaders since trump won the election and replay trade as we call it, trump rally, they were not down by a whole lot. wells fargo, morgan stanley may be the exceptions. considering how far they have come not dramatic or painful turn around there. on the other side of the coin the health care bill failure lifted some hospital and medicaid insurers. they will continue to benefit as

obamacare remains in place. significant goops higher. hca holdings up better than 5%. back to you. melissa: lori, thank you very much. david: teddy weisberg in the background agreeing with everything lori said. we don't look at gold enough. it closed at a one-month high today. dollar fell in all of this is because investor concerns about economic growth in light of the health care reform failure and concerns that tax cuts may undergo the same fate. melissa. melissa: stocks trying to battle back from pessimism from capitol hill to wall street with the dow seeing the 8th day in a road as we said not all bad news. investors start a long-awaited search for stocks. kevin kelly, recon capital partners. former banker carol roth. carol, let me start with you. there is a lot on the agenda now. now we have folks on capitol hill looking at all kinds of things from immigration to tax cuts. a lot ahead. how does it make you feel about

the market? >> melissa, investors always like to pay more for possibilities than realities. melissa: that's you true. >> we always knew as we were getting data in that would probably have an effect on the market. certainly if we get towards tax reform and that doesn't step out anywhere near the market expectations that could be a big issue but i do think we need to look at the big picture to see how much the market is up year-to-date. annualize four to 5% return depending on which indices you're looking at we're doing really, really well. obviously we've been down a bit but i think in the grand scheme of things, looking at valuations certainly nothing to panic about. melissa: but, kevin, when i see all and put different forecasters how much the economy will grow i still think they're low if trump adminstation succeeds in anything they want to do. for example, the average this year is 2.3%. next year, 2.5%. if we get any part of those tax

cuts i think that is at the low end, what do you think? >> it could be at the lowened, but that goes back to the actual policies we'll have to see. that is why the market sold off. they couldn't even rally the troops behind this health care reform. so one of the big issues you need to focus on is financials let us up in this market an financials are expected to increase their earnings 15% this year but there hasn't been one single policy passed to juice those earnings. so we do need to get the tax reform. we do need to get deregulation to get that 15% in growth. otherwise it will fall off and take the whole market and we've seen that in the regionals and their action since last week. they're off over 10%. david: we do have a pipeline but have some deregulation. turning to another key agenda item, president trump looking towards tax reform, following replacement of the tax plan for obamacare. peter barnes is latest in the white house after this. peter. reporter: the president is trying to hit the reset button

after the failure of the health care bill on friday. in fact on the deregulation front he signed four bills today that congress approved under the congressional review act which as you recall, allows congress to go back and cancel regulations within the last six months or so from anything. in this case these were obama administration regulations, not big once. nonetheless white house shows progress here getting right on the horse. obviously big one, next big lift for the white house is tax reform. white house press secretary sean spicer told reporters today they are not going, they are not going to let that get away from them the way they let it get away with health care reform away from them. listen. >> we're driving the train on this so i don't want -- i mean we'll work with congress on this but i think the president as you heard through multiple, multiple times the president will be very clear, this is a huge priority for him.

something he feels very passionately about. report: t senate docrati leader chuck schumer sayinover the weekend, yes, the democrats will work with the white house and republicans on tax reform but he said i, i think they will repeat the same mistake they made on trumpcare with tax reform. not sounding like he will jump into the fray to help him out, right, david. david: his good friend, president donald trump. we'll see if anything comes of that. peter. thank you very much. with dems smelling blood in the water after what happened last week can the white house get any democrats on board for tax cuts? joining me americans for tax reform president grover norquist. i don't think chuck schumer would ever go with the president on anything these days but there are certain democrats who have been calling for tax cuts for a while. art laffer, your friend and mine, grover, spoke to this point earlier today. i want to get his comment and

get you to respond. play the tape. >> i know a number of democrats there, and it is a large group, stuart, maybe 45, 50 of them who really think the corporate tax rate is way, way way, too high. i know a number of the democrats would be willing to trade a carbon tax for cutting personal income tax rates, static revenue neutral. i would do that deal every day of the week and twice on sunday myself. david: grover, there are two points there i want time pact. corporate tax cuts, do you know of 40 democrats in congress that would join the president to cut the corporate tax rate? >> no. that's, that's absurd. in private conversation with business leaders democrat senators and congressman to raise money have been telling the business community they agree the rate needs to come down for 15 years but in power they never do it. and always they wanted, if they even talked about a teeny cut in the corporate rate, they wanted

a $1.4 trillion net tax hike. david: oh. >> that is what obama and democrats always asked for during his eight years. that is fantasy world. david: they would have to do it without any democrats. they would have to cut tax, correct? >> yes. david: okay. what about the tradeoff? you heard art laffer he would be willing to trade off -- i hate the idea of a carbon tax. even nancy pelosi couldn't pull that one out when she had a full congress and democratic president. is there any talk about trading a carbon tax increase or new carbon tax plan with some kind of cuts in individual rates? >> in the bowels of the most far-left environmental groups they talk about that but not among civilized society. david: oh, gee. art laffer is a very civilized guy but go ahead. >> i think you must have a different guy than art laffer. art laffer would never say anything that foolish.

david: we played the tape. >> look we have the votes for significant tax reduction and reform. to take that opportunity and marry it with a massivetax increase on energy that would kill jobs is one, not something that trump is interested in doing. he ran against the people who wanted to destroy whole sectors of economy with the a carbon tax on energy. two, look there was a real challenge, two dozen republicans for reasons that baffle me decided to double-cross the president and not to vote for a trillion dollars in tax cuts. david: talking about the obamacare bill. >> in spending reform. why anybody would look in the mirror that they're a reagan republican -- david: after that, grover, after we saw what happened is it still conceivable by august the president could get all republicans on board with a tax cut? >> yes, yes. largely because that was such a

mistake, i don't think the people who pulled that stunt had any idea, they thought they were spitting at the president. i don't think they understood they were making it much more difficult to do tax reform. what will probably end up with is temporary tax reform because we needed the lower taxes and less spending of repealing obamacare in order to make the tax plan that the republicanspre permanent. it may only last 10 years now like bush's. david: okay. >> that is the cost of what those guys did. vid: no new carbon tax. it is not necessy? >> never, never, never. that is not happening. david: grover norquist not leaving any room for doubt. grover norquist. good to see you. melissa. melissa: we have breaking news for you right now. authorities responding to a possible bomb threat at a va hospital in dallas forcing precautionary evacuations. you're looking at the scene right there. we'll bring you more news about this as it comes in.

in the meantime, fulfilling key campaign promises running the government like a business. senior advisor to president trump jared kushner, heading up the new american office for innovation, staffed by corporate executives that will report directly to commander-in-chief. kevin and carol are back. this is the holy grail, the ever-evasive government will be more efficient. we'll find a way. it will be less ludicrous and make more sense. i don't know, do you have any hope for this one? >> i actually do have hope for this despite all the bureaucrats are trying to protect their jobs. one reason why the gao came out with a report, that the defense department is using computers from the '70s as well as floppy disk for our nuclear arsenal. melissa: right. >> this post will focus on technology and data. we could use it to the defense department to upgrade the systems. use it for the va as well to reduce waiting lines. this is great. bring a lot of technology leaders. that is where we start making

the government more efficient. i would like us to focus on those type of things. mark ben ioff will be there. melissa: carol, it is all-stars. stephen schwartzman to everyone out of silicon valley. on one hand imagine president trump in there looking at these things, being like how in the world have we been doing things this way? on the other hand there is a reason it is hard to get entrenched government out of the way. there are a lot of people very invested in things staying the way we are. who wins this battle? >> it's a really good question, melissa, and i think there is so much riding on this for people like you and like me who have been advocating for more entrepreneurial approach and more business solutions to government. my concern isn't so much the ideas and the all-stars but it is the execution. melissa: right. >> we've seen this on private company boards before, when you get a bunch of all-stars around

look very sparkly but necessarily get their hands dirty, roll up their sleeves to make something happen. at this point in time i'm cautiously optimistic. i really hope they're the right people in place not to look good but execute on this if they don't execute on this, we'll have a hard time getting another business leader in place again. melissa: you're so smart. that is so right. it is always about the execution. a lot of people have ideas but the execution that really gets it done. guys, thank you. thanks to both of you. david: but they still look good. new developments emerging how or more importantly where house intel committee chairman devin nunes received information related to u.s. intel surveillance. more on this and what is expected at a closed-door hearings tomorrow. melissa: the defeat of isis in iraq. the way the iraqi prime minister making this bold prediion while slamming former president obama's failure to handle the terror group. we have lieutenant colonel oliver north he weighing in coming up.

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melissa: getting tough on sanctuary cities. attorney general jeff sessions said cities who aren't abiding sorry, by the law could see major cuts. >> i'm urging states and local jurisdictions to comply with these federal laws. failure to remedy violation cost result in w holding grants,

termination of grants or disbarment or ineligibility for future grants. melissa: we have chris cities solstice anderson, and joe trippi a campaign consultant and fox news contributor. kristin, sort of doubling down with what what they said before. how is this anything different from what president obama said? he said basically it is the same. we'll actually enforce it. what are your thoughts? >> yeah i think that's right. a lot of what you heard from the trump administration prioritizing of deportation of folks that already committed crimes, that is stuff the obama administration talked about, the trump adminiration is talking about it and talking about really doing it this is right in line with what president trump said he would do all along. it is kind of a popular move. in fact of all the executive actions president trump has taken or talked about taking. polls find this is consistently

at or near the top of things he wants to do as president. melissa: joe, the response from dnc chair tom perez, we put it up at the green. local law law enforcement know r communities best. trump administration is undermining their role taking away critical funds that make our community safe. if they are in law enforcement, shouldn't they enforce the laws? >> the point chairman per rest that local law enforcement has better idea to put resources to lower crime or take on crime. the fact is, sanctuary counties have lower crime rates than non-sanctuary county. so, look, the obama administration did talk very similarly. by the way there are a lot of progress serves that called him the deporter-in-chief because of how many deportations occurred during his term. so a lot of this is similar rhetoric. but it is definitely, you know,

we'll see how this works if they try to enforce this. when they're taking those fund's way, those grants away, that is fewer law enforcement resources on the streets. melissa: but kristen, specific example he was talking about when he was at the podium today, it is ridiculous when you have a criminal in custody, the standard procedure, i worked in law enforcement forever, the standard procedure is that when you are done prosecuting that person, you hand him or her over to other people who have outstanding claims, warrants, whatever against them. and they said in this case they're going out of their way, spending resources to do the opposite, rather than this courtesy and law that has always been in place. to me, in those instances that doesn't make sense. we're not talking about hunting people down. we're talking about criminals in custody for other things, handing them over when you're done to the other authorities. what is crazy about that? >> sure. i mean look, what joe is talking about, there is a piece of that

that is valid which law enforcement officials want to go into communities and talk to folks who maybe their immigration status isn't legal but not committing any other crimes, work with emthis, get information with them to deal with crimes being committed in the community but in the case of the example you just gave, absolutely the federal government should be using the power of the purse to insure that state and local governments are enforcing the laws they're supposed to enforce. that is why polls out of harvard shown 80% of voters say they support the use of with holding funds to get local -- melissa: all depends how you ask the question. joe in that specific example jeff sessions gave today, that is the courtesy, that is what i expect, that's is not happening what do you think about that example. >> you're going to have examples like that. i mean you can always point to the example -- melissa: but in that case should they be forced to hand over those criminals? >> well, forced is the issue here. i mean -- melissa: required. >> required. melissa: they're required by law. >> right, well like i said, a

lot of progress serves went after obama saying same kind of things. melissa: is that yes or no? >> i don't know enough about that particular case butmy point is, this isn't goingis is a local, this is, what is so weird about arguing this with, with republicans is that normally they're the ones who say, let's let the local government decide. federal government shouldn't be involved. melissa: they're not deciding they need to follow law as it stands hand over criminal in custody and who they have a claim on. >> that is it about putting your reforces. local government has a better idea than the federal government. that is usually the republican argument. melissa: we'll leave you there is guys. appreciate your insights. david: it is a law and order matter. taking actions against sanctuary cities. more on that, ken paxton, he is a texas attorney general and if you heard him before you know he has opinions on this. plus not inclined to filibuster.

why one senator senior democrat he probably will not join the party's fight against president trump's supreme court nominee. republican senator john kennedy, a member of the judiciary committee is here to weigh in. >> chuck schumer has been a destructive force, in my opinion, when it comes to the traditions of the senate. if i have to change the rules to put this man on the supreme court i will.

david: senate democrats forcing one week delay on the vote for senate judiciary committee to vote on neil gorsuch. here with ussenator john kennedy. good to see you, senator. democrats think they have political capital after what happened with the health care bill. we had pat leahy, vermont,

dyed-in-the-wool liberal, he was not include, in his words to filibuster judge gorsuch. doesn't that kill senator schumer's efforts at a filibuster. >> well i hope so. we have never had a supreme court nominee in the history of the united states, in the history of the u.s. filibustered to death. now, with the possible exception of justice abe fortis, but that was, that had to do with ethics issues. david: right. >> it wasn't just political partisanship. i appreciate what senator leahy did. he has been around here a long time. david: right. >> he has a lot of wisdom and if he -- david: he is a liberal democrat. >> he is. david: willing to go against a filibuster i don't see who schumer he gets to support him. >> in my opinion if my worthy friends on other side did that they would be doubling down on stupid.

this man, neil gorsuch is a thoroughbred. he is a rock star. david: we've seen that. >> we pounded on him for 20 or 30 hours. i didn't criticize my friends on the other side for asking him tough questions. i asked him hard questions myself. david: yeah. >> this guy, he didn't miss a beat. david: there were terrific point, counterpoints with democratic senators. some of the democratic senators seemed to enjoy his comebacks. it was one of the best displays what is good about government we've seen in a long time. let me move on to another subject because you're also on the budget committee. >> right. david: there was a terrificgton" robert samuelson, he he is not a conservative and he said the following, he seemed to get to the heart how america has changed in our spending habits. we went from limited to open-ended government. any group that garnered the votes to the federal aid. government operated railroad, amtrak, promoted public t have subsidized farmers much more.

spending discipline eroded. we've used government as a massive slush fund for whatever cause or interest seems popular. now, given that is where we are today, can that be turned around and how? >> well, yeah, you can turn it around. you can stop spending. i mean, how many of your listeners families could survive if every month they just charged more and more to the credit card? david: not many. >> i mean we have $19 trillion worth of debt. we're running 500 billion-dollar deficits. david: but what we saw last week, senator, was the morass of washington in some ways, and i'm not throwing blame on one party or the other but you saw all of these special interests coming out of thed would works. >> yeah. david: when it comes to spending our money, the hundreds of billions of dollars that they spend it is even worse. >> well, what president trump did, he suggested we spend about 52, $53 billion more on defense. he's right. probably not enough but he said

i'm not going to do it by borrowing money. i will cut elsewhere in the budget. based on reaction of some people you would have thought civilization was coming to an end. i mean i know this is foreign concept in washington but you can't tax spend regulate yourself into prosperity. david: we have to leave, senator, but you do think we do have the wherewithal right now to really cut what the government does? >> absolutely. i'm going to vote for it. david: senator john kennedy great to see you, senator. thank you. >> appreciate it. melissa: unmasking controversy. new he details surfacing over incidental collection of trump transition team. what he had to say next. david: ted koppel taking on sunhannity telling one of fox's own that he is quote bad for america. sean hannity. ♪

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nunes said he met with unnamed source on white house ground to view classified information that nunes says sho the.s. intelligence community incidentally collected information about u.s. citizens involved in the trump transition. noon necessary was part of the trump transition team. he briefed the president about the documents, something he has yet to do with members of his own committee. the statement from his office monday afternoon said, this is a quote, the chairman is extremely concerned by the possible unproper masking of names of u.s. citizens. he began looking into the issue even before president trump tweeted his assertion that trump tower had been wiretapped. white house press secretary sean spicer distanced administration from chairman nunes during today's briefing. >> obviously all of what i know has been available through public comment. i know that chairman nunes has confirmed that he was on the white house grounds tuesday and frankly any questions regarding who he met with or why he was

here should be referred to him. i'm not going to get into who meet with or why he met with them. that is something he has made very clear. i will let him answer. reporter: nunes's statement said they include executive branch documents not provided to congress. senator chuck schumer weighing in on this, speaking on the floor of the senate, he said that chairman nunes is falling down on the job and seems to be more interested in protecting the president than in seeking the truth. obviously mr. schumer is calling on nunes to step down from his position as chairman of the house intelligence committee. he is even called on paul ryan to remove him. this is still unfolding. >> thank goodness chuck schumer had ti to weigh in because he is very busy these days. i was afraid the story would go by without his condemnations. thanks for that, adam. david: passing the blame. cbs contributor ted koppel slamming fox news's sean hannity

and telling him show is actually harming the country. take a listen. >> you think we're bad for america? you think i'm bad for america? >> yeah. >> you do? >> in the long haul i think you -- >> really? >> all these opinion shows. >> that is sad ted. that is sad, ted. >> you know why? because you're very good what you do? because you have, you have attracted a significantly more -- >> you are -- >> let me finish, let me finish the sentence before you do that. >> i'm listening with all due respect. >> yes. you have attracted people who are determined that ideology is more important than facts. david: hmmm. here now, larry elder, radio talk show host. larry what that show, this was a 10 minute segment on cbs's morning show. sunday. i used to like the show. they had art sy stuff in there. when it comes to something like this, i there was nothing on rachel maddow, nothing on pbs

which i often wake up to hear constant refrain that trump is the moss evil person in the universe, we're paying for that. noto mention cbs itsf which has come out with a lot of fake news so the point is, it was completely one-sided. >> of course it was. nothing about the fact that we learned from wikileaks that "the new york times" doing this extensive article on hillary gave her veto proof over quotes she didn't like. "washington post" doing extensive article on john podesta, her campaign chair. they found out something about some sort of financial conflict of interest. gave him a head's up, don't worry about it we'll bury it. fact of matter, top 20 news sources 18 lean to the right. only lean to the right is fox news with bret baier or "the washington times." david: in it that little clip we showed which did air on the c-b c-b -- cbs, he said opinion shows like u.s., sean. if you look at the whole thing,

they were painting with a broad brush, if you watched fox news you were getting a very distorted view of the way the world works, in fact that same show, the 10-minute clip you had one little brief from shepard smith condemning president trump and suggesting he was a liar. so i mean you clearly get go sides from fox. you don't always get it from the other networks. >> and the point is, sean, does not pretend to be a newsman. he does not call himself a journalist. he is pundit. ted koppel is journalist sat there giving his opinions as pundit. how ironic. david: larry of course the media, the mainstream media got completely wrong over the past ar, the biggest thing they got wrong was e electi itself and i think that is, that smarts so much, that they not only lost the democratic, lost the democratic party and white house, which 90% of journalists support, but the beyond that they were so wrong on that. they misled the american public. >> well, that's right.

david, i think that's what ted koppel meant when he said to sean, you're good at what you do. sean had a role in the lech shen. you was pro-trump. ted koppel feels but for like people like sean trump wouldn't be there. that is falling him more than anything else. david: galling the entire media they got the election so wrong. larry, thank you. melissa: you wake up to pbs? david: i do. melissa: doesn't that make you go to sleep? david: it gets my blood boiling very often. >> learn something new apparently every day. isis ramping up its military presence in the middle east. why 200 troops are headed to mosul next. lieutenant colonel oliver north sound off. >> president obama -- he just that ♪

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melissa: ramping up the fight against isis the u.s. sending 200 more troops to mosul to help our iraqi partners to defeat the terror group according to a defense official. here is lieutenant colonel oliver north, fox news military analyst and host of "war stories." you say there are long term and short-term concerns about this. like what? >> you're absolutely right. 200 is roughly two parachute companies out of fort bragg, north carolina, the 82nd airborne division. this is what president trump said he would do, destroy isis fast. there are two or three how isis jihadis holed up in mosul and half that number in raqqa they are no constrained by the president obama's rules of engagement. it is about one how americans in syria and about six thousand in iraq. they're waging a two-front campaign.

isis in both places, mosul in iraq. the push to get forward air controllers further forward because of what happened last week with an errant airstrike killed more civilians that will put more americans in harm's way. they're prepared for it. they wanted to get more actively engaged to beginwith. unfortunately isis holds 700,000 human beings as human shields in mosul and about the same thing happening in raqqa. not quite the same rules of engagement in raqqa for what got owing right here. when prime minister abadi was hear, i know you have a sot for him. escaping cities in anbar province and he knows once this is over in mosul, it is going to continue to fight a low level insurgency in terrorism, probably we're going to sigh a lot more what we saw last week in london. melissa: let's play the sound bite. we'll react on the other side. let's listen.

>> i see a very powerful determination to defeat daesh. >> more determination with president trump than president obama? >> yes i can see that determination. president obama didn't want to get involved in the first place. melissa: those are tough words. he now says that he thinks that it could be, you know, what was it, he thinks this war is near an end in iraq. >> matter of wks. melissa: matter of weeks, right. >> there are 52 weeks in a yea based on what i've seen out there on all these trips, most recent one back in november, june or july is likely for at least getting rid of most of what is in mosul, some of it in raqqa reality it will be around for a long, long time. the long-term problems, melissa, what happens in syria after isis is gone? you will need some kind of arab or sunni, egypt or jordan, will number two, what if maliki wins the next election and get rid of abadi? he will have to do it with

iranian help and that have us out of there? what will turkey do about the kurds? they will have a big fight if they start war against the kurds. number four what if isis does a deal with al qaeda to reconstitute as a single sunni terror organization. those are four major concerns you hope somebody is looking at. melissa: that is really bleak, colonel. that really paints a picture it is not over anytime soon. i guess what i'm hearing from you over all is, you know, his point was, that president obama didn't want to be there in the first place and you're saying that whoever is involved now has to have a lot of resolve and it will be a long haul? >> it is going to be a long haul. melissa: yeah. >> start a monday that way, melissa, reality it's a good wake-up call. melissa: wake-up call, there you go. colonel oliver north. david: i didn't like number four, isis and al qaeda getting together that would be a toxic combination. fighting sanctuary cities here by with holding billions of dollars.

white house announcing new punishments against sanctuary cities. tes attorney general ken paxton sounding f on the n plan tenfoe immigration laws.

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>> failure to deport aliens who are convicted of criminal offenses puts whole communities at risk. such policies make their cities and states less safe. public safety as well as national security are at stake. and put them at risk of losing federal dollars. david: attorney general jeff sessions today announcing plans with hold federal funding from so-called sanctuary cities and states. here to react, ken paxton, texas attorney general. general paxton, first of all do you approve of the attorney general's order? >> absolutely. i think his statement about national security and public safety are dead on.

so yeah, absolutely, we're trying to do the same thing in texas. david: i was going to ask, will you help to enforce the federal edict in your state? >> we'll do whatever we're allowed to do under federal law. absolutely, if which have the ability to do it we'll do it. david: i'm wondering if there is a political price? as much as you dislike the idea of a sank wear which city, a lot of texans do. there are a lot of cities in texas that could lose federal funding. that could hurt the state's bottom line, right? >> these are local municipalities, they have their own decisions to make whether they want to lose funding. we are talking about federal law here. they have the opportunity to make the decision themselves. ultimately they make the decision whether they want the federal funding bad enough to enforce federal law. david: do you think it will work? >> i think it will work. i don't know that every city will follow through or every my news pallet. it is definitely a carrot to offer the municipalities. david: we talked about it earlier. we had somebody against the

attorney general's order on saying this could actually end up hurting law enforcement because they may take money away from law enforcement which you say what? >> well, so what we struggled with, we have a sheriff in travis county which is austin who will not turn over illegals who are coming out of her jails to the federal officials. i don't know what the upside of that is but we just had a report that came out of the texas department of public safety where it showed since 2011, we had over 200,000 crime committed by illegals. some of those homicides. 1000 homicides. 6,000 sexual assaults. 68,000 assaults. so we're dealing with a serious issue we need to find a way to resolve. david: you know, speaking of the sexual assault part of the equation, the attorney general specifically called out the state of maryland which has an entire state is considering becoming a sanctuary state. now, this light of what happened in rockville, maryland, where two illegal aliens are alleged

to have rapeed a 14-year-old girl in a high school bathroom, to most people, i would think most people in this country would think that is insane. you don't encourage that sort of thing by creating a sanctuary city. in fact one of these two people accused apparently, they refused to turn him over to i.c.e., even though he was wanted by federal authorities. >> yeah. so the question i'd have, obviously not from maryland, i have the question what is the up side to the taxpayers and citizens of that stay, particularly people who have kids in the schools? do they want their kids subjected to this type of risk. as a parent i tell you i would be concerned. david: do most texans want, do you think they would be supportive of jeff sessions and the new order? >> you know what? absolutely this is an issue i hear my voters talk about almost every day. i obviously campaigned in tex schools for years. this is an issue we're concerned b as those statistics i just

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>> an antiestablishment rock 'n' roll icon is defending president trump. >> the left-wing media in america are trying to smear them as racists, and that's not true. there's many, many problems, but he's not that. and there just might be a chance that something goodwill come out of that situation because he terrifies politicians. this is joy. >> right. [laughter] >> he also loves nigel farage. by the way, that is johnny

rotten from the sex pistols, and he is a u.s. citizen. like stuart, he became an american citizen. >> the voice of the rebellion in their day, and they're saying that's what they like. that's what's appealing. that's what the left doesn't get. >> he's for the common man. >> anyway, risk and reward starts now. trump: my contract with the american voter begins with a plan to end government corruption and to take back our country and to take it back swiftly from the special interest, who i know so well. i want the entire corrupt washington establishment to hear the words "we all are about to say. when we win tomorrow, we are going to drain the swamp." . liz: president trump trying to drain the swamp and now the swamp is fighting back. >> i think the president's disappointed in the number of peop