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the point of brexit. steve hilton, thanks for being with us. that's it for us tonight. we thank you for being with us. interior secretary ryan zinke join us. kennedy: another government shutdown on the horizon. can lawmakers reach a deal in all eyes have been on president trump when it comes to allegations about russia. but ford has a big plan to create jobs. what's the best way to resurrect the manufacturing industry? dirty jobs host mike rowe is here. grab a shovel be time to dig in. after paul ryan hit too many whammies in the healthcare version, it's time for the shutdown showdown. we have two teams ready to play,
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the obstructionists versus the ideologues. with the government shutdown looming one mow from today assistant senate needing 60 votes to pass an emergency budget. the obstructionists vow to block any plan that's involves a great wall. >> i'll build a great wall on the mexican border and mexico will play for that wall. mark my words. >> it's not best way to protect the border, everyone agrees on that. and it's very expensive. republicans on the border states are objecting. there is eminent domain. kennedy: now in know it all the has developed scepticism.
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where was that in 2006 when you voted for the secure defense act of '06. the president needs 8 senate democrats to jump on the trump train. the problem is, democrats will never agree to a u.s. paid wall because their parents, pelosi and schumer tell them how to vote. democrats are statists who live to increase the size and scope of government and they want to invade every orfice in the body politic. senate republicans are happy to tear count wall to further fund
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the richest, biggest military in if the world. can i just have some of my money back any never wanted to spend so much of it and on stuff i never wanted. and i never wanted to be a pawn in a congressional game show where so far everybody loses. the deadline to make a deal to avoid the shutdown is april 28. last week's healthcare mess has thrown an enormous monkey wrench into the budget. joining me is kat timpf and andrew levy and rich lowry.
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welcome, everyone. in this big looming budget crisis, who holds the cards? >> lls republicans are united the democrats do. the border wall, mexico is note going to pay for it, mexico is not going to pay for it and that's a problem. kennedy: lindsey graham would rather take the $40 to $50 billion it will take to build the wall and funnel it toward the military. rich: i support the wall and the military. kennedy: that's when republicans sounds like statist big government democrats. let's increase military spend and have a tax cut. >> military and the borders are core responsibilities of our government. the other things are relative luxuries.
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>> the wall won't solve this. he's selling it to secure or border which isn't going to happen. the whole point was mexico was going to pay for it. kennedy: he said mark my words. i'm the best budget talk in the world. how do we consciously uncouple the wall from the april 28 deadline? and can that be done? can a budget be passed if you take out what cluck schumer is calling a poison pill? and now that you need 8 democrats, they will have a say here. >> the only way i might be wrong about a government shoulddown, the democrats need a victory they can call their own. trump care, gorsuch will get confirmed. stopping construction of the wall would give democrats something to go home to their constituents and say this is what i did.
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i think they can find a way to do that without a shutdown because a lot of republicans aren't crazy about the wall either. kennedy: i think there are enough republicans who don't want the wall now. they may say they will defer it. how important is the victory for this administration. rich: they will get one on gorsuch. that's an enduring victory. he will probably be there for 30 years. a government shutdown would be very bad. and as those things happen the first year the looks like a legislative nullity or worse. >> what's happening with the republicans is when you argue with someone about where you are going to eat, by the time you are done the on thing that's left is toothless waitresses. kennedy: president trump signed
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a new sweeping executive order to roll back energy regulations he claims will bring back energy sector jobs in places like coal country. but critics say those jobs are never coming back and the order will lead to more pollution and accelerate climate change. are they bringing back the coal miner jobs? >> it may bring jobs back tell fairly. but the coal industry is dying due to regulations. more and more coal jobs have become mechanized. so you won't bring back that's jobs. this is one of those feel-good things. the president can say got your jobs back. kennedy: the coal market has shrunk, automation has madethos. and it forced the whole thing to an early grave.
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so why does the administration hate coal so much? >> they think it' dirty and represents the past. they think it's contributing to the destruction of the planet. on a cost benefit analysis even if you think global warming is man made, it makes some no sense to lose one job. why would you do that on some far off bet of getting .1% off the global temperature 100 years from now. kennedy: that's the argument a lot of people on the left don't want to have. if you grant them yes climate change is man made, how much of gdp are you willing to sacrifice on a bet that may not pay off. >> if you do win, it's even better for the economy. kennedy: in west virginia we'll have a bunch of wind farms? >> this is what hillary clinton
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said we are going to put a lot of coal miners out of business. kennedy: i know someone who's very upset about this, and that person's name is leonardo leonardo dicaprio. watering the arid land with his after-tears. >> i hate it when people say it's going to destroy the environment and everyone is going to die. but i agree with andy, you can't help the way the world is going, and it's not going in terms of a lot of coal miners keeping their jock because of automation. kennedy: there is a lot of
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automation in manufacturing. some of the second towards which employed a big percentage of people for 100-plus years, there are not a lot of butter churners anymore. jobs do go away. >> you brought up with hillary clinton did. that was one of the few times in the campaign she was actually honest and it hurt her. and she was honest and actually correct. kennedy: what do you do? >> she wanted to do everything she could to put a take through this industry. how does our economy grow? you make it more productive. you lose jobs in certain second towards and pick them up in others. that's bent history for 200 years or more. kennedy: it appears the white house is looking to bounce back in a big way from last week's
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healthcare fiasco. according to a new report the president wants to push for structure now instead of next year because it could be an area where he can grab some support from big government democrats. white house press secretary sean spicer said the combo deal is possible. >> each of them will have different constituencies. we'll work with members from both sides of the aisle to see where we can find agreement and move forward. but i don't want to prejudge the outcome at this point. kennedy: let's prejudge always. another failure to further derail the president's agenda. is it wise to double up or should the white house do one thing at a time? this seems like a big risky
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gamble unless there is certain victory combining infrastructure and tax reform. >> one of the challenges with the health reform was the size of it and all the different issues even twined in that that they couldn't unravel. if you combine infrastructure and tax reform. it's a huge issue equal to the health reforms. kennedy: it seems contradictory. if you are talking about cutting taxes and growing the economy, that makes perfect sense. people will have more money in their pocket and the perception they have more economic flexibility and freedom. therefore they will spend money and create jobs. but then if you have a trillion dollars in struck were spending, you are spending money you don't have. >> so that's where you have to look at how trump during the campaign cycle was talking about infrastructure spending. he was talking about stimulating the private sector to do the
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spending by tax credits. kennedy: which are subjects does and you have to look for tax revenue elsewhere. but you lowered the corporate tax rate, lowered the middle class income tax and lowered taxes also on the top 1%. how did that math work out? >> the reason to possibly combine that with tax reform and infrastructure, if you lower the corporate tax rate and get them to repatriate all the dollars from overseas -- kennedy: which is not a guarantee. >> that's right. trump talked about putting a sweetener inth, if they were to invest that money in the united states on infrastructure, they might get a better deal from the government. does that translate into growth. the other big debate is the democrats will call this corporate welfare. that's how they responded to it. and they won't necessarily be on board.
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even though donald trump thinks he can reach across the aisle on this issue. kennedy: you talk about private roads and toll road, and a lot of taxpayers say i'm paying for it twice then. i'm paying for it with offset tax credit or the taxes that come from the general budget and go to infrastructure spending, then i have to pay $9 a day whenever i have to pay on one these toll roads. >> in place whereas they had tolls there have been challenges on the legal front and the financial front of were they profitable? they can work. but they tend to take a long type to get off the ground. kennedy: they are better maintained than the public roads we see. it sounds like socialist utopia, i'm dubious of it, but i love the tax reform. i think they should separate them.
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i will defer to you. >> i think it lesson from the healthcare reform that didn't pass is you have got to take these things in smaller slices you can have the support for. kennedy: i love slices because that means pie. ford is investing a billion dollars to have more plants in michigan. mike rowe joins me after the break. is donald trump the first punk rock president? one legendary punk singer thinks so. who is the punk singer? he walked out on me on two interviews. why pause a spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines,
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manufacturing jobs? there could be. it begins with pushing vocational schools. mike rowe is the host of "dirty jobs." and he's the ceo of the mike rowe works foundation. you my rowed right into my studio. kennedy: exploring it. it's a logical progression. mike rowe, you have a generation of people that other generations, baby boomers and gerks n-xers think baby boomers are entitled to go to college. but that's not the most fruitful path because you end up with a
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lot of debt and few employment opportunities. you have been pushing vocational school because you make more money. >> it was porgy who said "it ain't necessarily so." there is a ton of opportunity in the country. in my humble view the big divide is between the people who are convinced opportunity is dead and those who do not. i think 75% of the skills jobs don't require 4-year degrees. and i would say the student loan debt. kennedy: it keeps sucking more money from government and family.
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these are not stem jobs or engineering jobs. how do we make it sexy. >> stem gets a lot of press. why not put stems, skills on the end of it. or steams. when you take it art out of vocational art you have left with vocation. you say to people, there is a whole category of consolation prizes we call these types of jobs. which ironically are tied to the same kinds of education we call alternative education. from a very, very early age parents and guidance counselors make it clear there is a path for people who aren't cut out for that which is most desired. kennedy: the desired path is real joint one, that most kids are forced into who aren't ready for college. >> if you are running for
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office, you have to deliver a macro message. you have to say something that makes the most possible sense to the largest group of people. but the problem is a microproblem. a cookie cutter approach to education is killing us. kennedy: not only on the primary and secondary level, it's outdated, that's why parent want school choice. >> essentially in higher education. how did tuition get more expensive than energy, food, real tells state and healthcare? the answer is because we told all generations the best path for you is the most expensive path, then we freed up endless money. kennedy: it feels lining endless money, you have a half million dollars and you are telling kids come. take my money, please. >> you know how hard it is to give away work ethic scholarships?
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every year we get a modest pile, half a million. and they are not big allotments. it could be between $2 and $15 grand depending on the applicant. but we want to focus training money on jobs that currently exist. half the welders who went through our program are making six figures. kennedy: my necessity nice one of these kids who was not cut out for school. he's in vocational school where he's learning carpentry over 2 1/2 years and he's a year in the program and he's building houses and getting on the job training. this kid will have skills and a job and a future. >> and no debt, or very, very little. every time i have this conversation what comes back over the net is your anti-college or anti-education. if i could look into the camera and say for a moment there is no
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hope without education, you have to have some sort of useful skill. but this idea that the only place to get the best education is the most expensive place it's killing us. kennedy: it's a bunch of hot malarkey. kennedy: it's so nice to see you in person. >> please go to my website and apply for a scholarship. go to mike rowe works and you will find it. kennedy: as allegations swirl around the president with his ties to russia. he's launched his own allegations. buck is here and he will break down the drama next. what if technology gave us the power to turn this enemy into an ally? microsoft and its partners are
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devin nunes secretly visited the white house a day before announcing the trump team was secretly scres investigated. where should the feds be shining that light? let me ask buck sexton. his radio show "america now" is legendary. if you had a comprehensive list there would be just as many republicans as democrats. >> when you look at the connections they are so flimsy to be laughable. but there is so much coverage of
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russia. if there is a russian bank that did a deal with somebody else. you are talking about people involved in international business or government employees, international relations for a long time. somehow devin nunes says some jaw-dropping stuff and we have seen days of media coverage not whether it was true or not -- kennedy: which should be the real question for those people interested in protecting civil liberties. >> the chairman of the committee said he had reason to believe that improper spying was done on a president-elect and his top aides. that would seem to be a wall-to-wall coverage story. nunes did say seems like. so he wasn't saying definitively. but that seems to be the story you would track down. but instead, anyone's was on the
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white house grounds. kennedy: it drives me crazy when people get hysterical about one party but don't apply it same outrage to another party. did the president of the united states or anyone at the white house brief a democrat? >> according to nun else this is a regular occurrence for both parties to meet with the white house. but even if there was the passage of classified information which is what we have been reporting, fit is true, however it came from, it doesn't really matter unless we are going to suggest there is fabricated classified making its way across the top echelon. >> i don't understand the white house is saying here is information, then they seem surprised.
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the white house gives nun else the information. the white house grounds are different than being in the white house. it includes the sold executive office building. >> that's a really important point. >> you have got a bunch of journalists all about source protection. they will never reveal their sources even under pain of imprisonment, but they keep saying to anyone's, who is your whistleblower. all after sudden source protection means nothing. kennedy: i want to know were there spy agencies gathering information illegally on trump operatives. nunes has to clear that up. the other thing is the fact that he's not saying enough to clarify his information, he doesn't have to say who got it from, do you agree with john mccain he has become a big distraction? >> no.
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i think the press is making nunes a distraction. you have people are an r. or d by their name investigating. is anyone going to pretend schiff isn't the partisan that nunes is? so people acting like you have open partisans, of course there are allegations much partisanship that can be leveled at any point in time. nunes handled this in a strange fashion. it's not a well -- kennedy: he's not doing enough to make it seem like he's not protecting the president. >> if this was a cloak and dagger meeting, they are not doing a very good job of putting this information out there. but you have the narrative now. i saw a gal of reporters following him into the bowels of the capitol. kennedy: that's his failure. if he has the cluster cuts
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everywhere he goes then has somehow failed. >> they keep asking the same questions, will you recuse yourself in who is your source in they can't point to any activity that indicates he should recuse himself. no he's not going to disclose his sources. kennedy: buck sexton thank you for being here. donald trump rose to the top of the political pile by torching the status quo. but does that make him a punk rock president? johnny rock says yes. i tried hard to quit smoking. but when we brought our daughter home, that was it. now i have nicoderm cq.
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attention-seeking blowhard. he's a brand at this point. punk is an arctic. trump is authoritarian. there is nothing punk rock about donald trump. i love when donald trump supporters call themselves the new punk rockers. there was a time a year or two or three or four ago when people started saying i'm a libertarian. you ask what they believe, and they are not a libertarian. kennedy: you never compromised yourself on immigration. rich: i understand the phenomenon. they thrive on controversy and outrage. that was a huge element of how
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donald trump got where he is now. kennedy: the easiest way to upset people, a writer for the new york post walked around with a "make america great again" hat. and he documented the outrage he saw throughout the day. there is no way to make people more angry. if i were on a college campus i would do that. if you like trump. your friend. everyone else is very, very cool with it. but i agree. just because trump is different. there is a libertarians for trump movement. the idea is they like to see the two-party system crash and burn, even though he did run as a republican. he's the anti-libertarian.
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kennedy: those are the narco cab tallists. >> you could walk down to the middle of times square wearing a clown hood and robe. and it just makes you a jerk. rich: in my neighborhood one piece of trump paraphernalia was on a child. i thought that's brave. i thought, no, it's ironic. kennedy: coming up. one of the stars of discovery channel's "ucon "yukon man" is .
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it will have a devastating effect on me. kennedy: that's from the hit show "yukon man." their struggles to preserve their hardscrabble way of life. defending their hunting ground to survive in harsh terrain are almost impossible. here to discuss life in the alaskan wild, the star of discovery's "yukon man." >> we are visiting family and here i am. kennedy: do you miss alaska when you are gone? >> not for this short period of time. kennedy: you are from massachusetts. how did you make that transition? >> long process. many different stops along the
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way. but i ended up in northern canada, then northern alaska. kennedy: you were trying to outrun your problems or the ultimate wilderness was a magnet for you like the book "into the wild." >> i always say i was running toward something rather than running away from something. kennedy: when do you know you found it? >> it wasn't until i got into the north woods of canada and british columbia. i thought this is the life. i could live this life it wasn't my country so i had no legal status there. so i said i'll go to alaska, it's my country. kennedy: how did you discover trapping? >> that's what everybody does up there. at least anybody that lives up there that want to live a subsistence lifestyle.
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there are school teachers in our village that come in from outside and never do that kind of thing. but all the young guys that are up there, they trap, they fish, they haul wood for money and stuff like that. the lifestyle. kennedy: you said you have a 5-gal jug of water that you heat on a wood stove that you use for a shower. have you ever burned yourself? do you ever get the water too hot? >> oh, yeah, yeah. kennedy: what happens if you have a medical emergency? do you know how to perform surgery on neighbor? >> like the time i got called out of a tree by a grizzly bear and once i got into the hospital they stabilized me and flew me
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into fairbanks. kennedy: show me your bear claw really quick. >> this is just something i happen to have in my pocket. kennedy: did you cut that off a bear? >> this is the last joint. it's a small black bear. it's something i carry around. kennedy: good luck with the show. >> when you are in the village we don't feel the fame. i always say everybody has my number up in the village. they know who i am and we hardly ever talk about. kennedy: thanks for stopping by. continued success in the future, and may many animals fall into your house. coming up, are secret growth
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we never stop working to keep them out. terminix. defenders of home. that $100k is not exactly a fortune. well, a 103 how long did it take you two to save that? a long time. then it's a fortune. i told you we had a fortune. get closer to your investment goals with a conversation. kennedy: we come to the point in the show where i prove to my bosses that i'm not too inebriated to count to 5. there was an incident at the christmas party. this is the "topical storm."
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topic number one. if you like food it might kill you but you are tired of going to white castle. head to the food cart in new delhi. after lighting it on fire, it smiles at you and shoiflts in your mouth. the street carts have a similar thing in new york where it goes in normal and comes out flaming. topic number two. the hedgehog inspired one of the most successful games of all times. look at that little guy.
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that prickly little critter reaches for food then falls on his face. never mind a drink problem, i have got an easing problem. he already land his first evengoersment deal. >> i have fallen and i can't get up. i'm surprised they replaced that woman with a hedge hodge. hopefully i will get my viagra from canada. topic number 3. olivia newton john and john travolta, imagine if they married he would be john-john. they are considering a reunion
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to celebrate the film's 40th anniversary. this one takes place in the modern world where he left the t-birds to join a rival gang called the scientologists. but instead of a hatch yinlding, this end up with sandy moving back to australia and danny dying in an alley after a knife fight with a scorpion. kennedy: why did this life end. topic number 4. this beard bro set out for internet glory with a death-defying pushup stunt. but instead of breaking the internet, he was upstaged by the old man behind him who was
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breaking the tbree throw record at the same time as the shirtless man was reminding the world his parents didn't give him enough attention. i know, five free throws doesn't sounds like a big deal. but there are a lot of knicks fans out there. i should also mention the video was sent to us by tom mclachlan. now back to the storm. topic number five. told you i could count. have you ever gone the so
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plastered that you passed out cold and your friends drew all over your face? so far as i know, this baby hasn't. i hope not. but his dad is no better than your drunken pals. that's so cute. that's not snapchat. a south the african man said he put the makeup on his son to make feeding time more fun. nothing screams fun like transforming your kid into a weightlifter. all he needs are a couple protest signs and a couple hundred thousand in debt. the future, it sucks. thank you for watching the show tonight. email kennedyfbn@foxbusiness.com. tomorrow night on the show, chris stirewalt, dr. ron paul,
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