kevin brady. scott pruitt, and greg norman the golfer. you know what he told me, don't play golf anymore, half dozen rounds a year. for a man who was as good as that, he doesn't do it any longer. unbelievable. my time is up. neil cavuto. neil: what about other golf. stuart: had problems with the windmills. neil: all the traveling you did as a young man. stuart: yeah. neil: you were like a rebel, a little james dean in your younger days. >> let's not get carried away. i was on the road for over four years. neil: why? was someone trying to find you? stuart: we'll leave that for another day. neil: very good. i always learn something, mr. varney, thank you very much. we are following along the same things stuart was chasing down here. we'll hear from republicans. they are drafting what he hope

to be a more acceptable health care package. drafting is like put that in eye tall licks and quotes at the same time. there nowhere near to any agreement on this we also get indications they are nowhere near to rush this. this might come up with the white house briefing, with sean spicer. a little earlier today. we'll hear what peter barnes is hearing with all the cross-section shun developments. reporter: like house republicans idea he seemed to try to jump-start obamacare repeal and replace. listen. >> i know we're all going to make a deal on health care. that is such an easy one. i have no doubt that will happen very quickly. i think it will actually, it is going to happen. we've all been promising, democrat, republican, been promising that to the american people. so i think a lot of good things are going to happen there. reporter: some senate republicans sound optimistic moving health care legislation forward.

as one told you yesterday on your show. listen to that. neil: back to this health care measure they want to take up again. is that risky if it depends republicans getting together on this because they didn't last time? >> i don't think we gave it long enough. i think we were gets closer. i know the people in the house freedom caucus pretty well. they are principled men and women. these people honestly want your insurance rates to go down and fix the problem president obama created with obamacare but i think this getting closer. reporter: but senate majority leader mitch mcconnell didn't sound optimistic. that obamacare will stay put. that the opportunity to pass the house bill has passed. neil? neil: we have congressman mike turner joining us from ohio on what the next step for the gop right there. i don't want to digress too much, congressman.

but on the intelligence issue whether the chairman should recuse himself from the russian investigation, some democratic colleagues say he should leave period, where do you stand on this? >> i support devin nunes on this the democrats are going crazy because he got close to the heart of this whole issue. we have fbi director comey saying there were leaks. these leaks are criminal of information that was intelligence community communications that were likely intercepted on the trump transition team. those are criminal actions. but, more so, the chairman has come forward, says this appears to be surveillance occurring of the trump transition team that was shared with perhaps officials of the obama administration. we need to know who those people are. we need to know if it was improper. as we get closer, more and more democrats say we need to stop the investigation and stop devin nunes. i think we need to get to the bottom of this just as more importantly get to the bottom of

russian interference with our elections and how we stop it in the future. were there trump campaign connections and follow the investigation where it needsleads. neil: let's go back to health care. that holds the key. i can tell you this, there is no bill that will come out of here that negotiated with the freedom caucus here in the house will ever pass the senate. you need 51 votes over there. i was not going to vote for the bill because of provisions they put in the bill. first off people in my community will be losing health care coverage. the president said we'll not be taking away health care coverage. the freedom caucus asked us to take out maternity benefits and pediatric care as requirement. those will never fly in the senate. what i think the president will

do and i hope his message is part of that. get a bill 51 senators can get behind. i have a feeling that bill will probably sail through the house. neil: then it is on to taxes or try to do it concurrent with taxes. message i'm getting, might change from sean spicer in the white house, don't rush this. does that also mean the rushing the tax cut thing? >> we can only vote on one thing at a time, but it doesn't mean we have to work on one thing at a time. i think it is absolutely essential we work on all issues, move them forward, get consensus, find out where the senate is. no reason that the house and senate can't be in negotiations with a bill house and senate can agree on to put on president's desk. neil: congressman, do you think tax cuts should be paid for? >> to a great extent but you have to recognize there is dynamic aspect of tax cuts. tax cuts that grow the economy and in turn result in increased revenue to the covers. that has to be taken into consideration as you go through this transition that we're

talking about, growing the economy, more jobs, economic growth, certainly will be better for our country and for all of our communities. neil: to some more conservative members and even those who aren't quite so conservative say, they have to be revenue neutral, what are you saying? >> well you know, they have to be completely revenue neutral you can't create revenue, right? if you say i cut a tax that doesn't result in increased revenue that is neutral also. we need to look at tax cuts targeted growing economy, creating jobs, putting people back to work, moving america forward. neil: your sense how actively the president should involve himself in both, health care rework and the tax cutting, what do you think? >> i think he should be actively involved. obviously the president made promises on the campaign trail, one which was no cuts in medicaid that are going to affect families. we'll have a health care bill that doesn't result in health care benefits being taken away. certainly that happens in the

current bill in my community. i think the white house's hand in getting negotiations through the house and senate would be very helpful. neil: is it your sense that republicans feel the pressure to get the tax cut thing even more than the health care thing done? >> i think there is pressure with all of them and the reason is this needs to be done for our economy, for health care, for our economy, jobs, moving the country forward, including rebuilding the military. that is on the president's agenda. i'm on the armed services committee. we need to push that forward. neil: congressman, thanks. go to connell mcshane before we get to sean spicer. we know about the priorities but how little time they have to pounce on them, right, connell? reporter: continuing resolution of the budget. otherwise you're faced with a government shutdown. we'll see if sean spicer takes podium outline in more detail, in terms of priority what is comes first and what comes

second, what comes third. a lot of that will depend on whether or not you avoid a government shutdown, here looks like coming up here, neil the we'll see if he puts it into perspective for us. neil: all right, con he nell. >> technically afternoon i guess. i, sorry to move it up and screw up with the schedule a little bit but we have couple events this afternoon. so i have to get through this, get some questions and then got to move on but we've got two more on camera briefings rest of the week. this morning the president just wrapped up or continuing to, some of the pool just left but the president is hosting a opioid and drug abuse listening session with senior administration officials, governors, experts in the psychology of drug addiction, recovery awareness, advocates and others who have been affected by opioid crisis. drug abuse crippled communities across the nation. in 2015 more than 52,000 americans, that is 144 people a day died from a drug overdose

with 63% involving an opioid according to the cdc. drug overdoses are now the leading cause of accidental death in our country. as the president discussed with the group this morning they won't be able to discuss this academic, excuse me, epidemic with a single solution. we need struggling americans with help they need. too many families have seen the destruction drug abuse can bring and we must focus on law enforcement. cheap heroin flooding into the communities as drug cartels expand throughout the country as triggering a chain of addiction spreading from person-to-person, and family to family. president trump has taken action to strengthen law enforcement and dismantle criminal cartels. he will talk about how to work on this threat to american communities with drug enforcement experts to stop this spike this is an issue every american regardless of your

political background can and must get behind. we must work together from the leaders and local community support programs all the way to the white house to solve this problem. white house took a big first step this morning in our battle to combat drug addiction and opioid crisis by meeting with individuals which included new jersey governor chris christie who has been a leader on this issue, attorney general sessions, education secretary devos, veterans administration secretary shulkin, homeland security secretary kelly and others were in attendance. a full list of participant has been provided. i will say, you i know the pool was just in there. some of the stories from some individuals involved with this with a family member are unbelievably compelling. their desire to see and to work with administration to get this problem addresses is is plaguing communities. the president places this at highest priority.

there was a mention by the drug, the acting administrator of the dea, that they have a program where twice a year they gather unwanted drugs. last year they gathered over a million pounds of unwanted drugs. there are 5000 sites which people across america can drop off stuff in their medicine cabinet no longer used to get it out of their house. the next drop-off will be on april 29th. i think the dea will put out more information. when you see some of the action taking place in this report it is truly a call to arms for a crisis that is plaguing our country. this afternoon the president will drop by the women's empowerment panel that the white house is hosting led by florida attorney general pam bondi, education secretary betsy devos, small business administrator linda mcmahon, u.s. ambassador to the united nations, nikki haley. senators for medicare & medicaid

services will speak about unique challenges young women and girls face. vice president second lady mrs. pence will be in attendance. to their incredible work doesn't always make headlines but certainly felt across the federal government and across our nation. women's history month is coming to an end but the trump administration is committed to empowering women in the work place. the work we started this month will not end. the end of the month will continue. president made women's empowerment a priority throughout the campaign. speaking out on affordable child care and paid family leave, investing in women's health and barriers faced by female entrepreneurs and business owners. in february he and prime minister trudeau prime minister of canada launched council for advancement of women entrepreneurs this month. they hosted an event for international women's day in the east wing. cms administrator burma hosted a

panel on women in health care. his daughter ivanka held a roundtable with women business owners with sba administrator ackman and other latina business owners. first lady joined undersecretary of state of political affairs tom shannon, 2017 international women's courage award at the state department. the president believes as the first lady said this morning, quote, wherever women are diminished the entire world is diminish with them. however, wherever women are empowered towns, villages schools and economies are empowered together and we're made stronger. trump administration will continue to insure the american economy is a place wn thrive. vice president will participate in swearing in of david friedman. next ambassador to israel. neil: we're still focusing on this. we're getting tape from the white house right now. the president is meeting with this opioid session here that includes governor chris christie, attorney general jeff sessions, betsy devos,

education secretary, many others. let's listen in. >> down 61% at the border right now in terms of people and drugs and we have to deal with the crisis. we're fortunate to have governor chris christie with us, a friend of mine, great friend of mine, a very, very early endorser, in fact an immediate endorser once he got out of the race. he liked himself more than he liked me. >> -- sir, but that is all right. >> other than that he has been great. he he is a very effective guy i will tell you. so have you working on this at a great moment, people remember you talking about your friend. that was probably your greatest moment during the campaign for president. it showed hough much you knew about this issue thanks very much, chris. we'll work directly with representatives from state and local governments law enforcement, medical professionals and victims.

i especially want to thank pam garazo, where is pam? hi, pam, how are you? for being here. pam sadly lost her son, a beautiful boy to drug addiction and pam, we mourn your terrible loss. we honor your strength and the fact that you're here. >> thank you. >> he will not have died in vain, okay? we'll make sure he will not have died in vain. thank you, pam, we appreciate it we're welcome aj solomon, vanessa atola, both who fought addiction and are symbols of hope and recovery, right? great job. we must get our citizens to it help and we need help. everybody has to help. and we will not have to go through what pam has gone through and some other families in this country have gone through. we want to help people like aj and vanessa who struggled through the dark depths of

addiction, not easy, not easy. and they found this bright promise of recovery. we must also focus on prevention and law law enforcement which iy i issued previous executive actions to strengthen law enforcement and dismantle criminal cartels. drug cartels have spread their deadly industry across our nation and the availability of cheap narcotics, i mean cheap narcotics, some comes in cheaper than candy has devastated our communities. it is one of the biggest problems our country has and nobody really wants to talk about. vice president pence mentioned this coming into the room. he said this is a problem like nobody understands and i think they will start to understand it. more importantly we have to solve the problem. our attorney general jeff sessions is working very hard on this problem. takes a lot of his time because this causes so much of the crime that you have to solve, that

problem. so solving the drug crisis will require cooperation across government and society, including early intervention to keep america's youth off this destructive path. we must work together, trust each other and forge a true partnership based on common ground of cherishing human life. so this is a very, very important meeting. maybe we'll go around the room and just say hello to everybody so we all know who we are. then the press will leave and we'll start talking. okay? general sessions, we know who you are. >> thank you. >> keep up the good work. >> betsy he devos, secretary of education. >> david shulkin, secretary of va. >> pam garazzo, parent of carlos. >> aj solomon. thank you -- mr. president. vanessa, thank you to much for

helping me. [inaudible] >> scott pruitt, epa. >> richard townsend acting director of drug control policy. >> harvard medical school. >> pam bondi, attorney general of florida. >> ga rare a, founder of the ga rare a foundation. >> they could use you now. you would make 100 million a year. i watched for many years, mariano. george always felt good when mari rain know went in. he never had to worry. you through heaviest pitch the ball weighed 30 pounds. how about the broken bats. how many broken bats? >> too many. >> those bats used to crack, right? >> like fire word. >> great honor. thanks, mariano. jared and chris. say a few words. >> mr. president and

vice president, thank you so much for focusing on this issue. as you know, mr. vice president, the governor of indiana for four years, this issue causes enormous pain and destruction to everyday families in every state in this country. mr. president, i thought it was important to bring pam, aj and vanessa here today, for you to hear them and directly about their stories. i'm so honored that the president would ask me to take on the task with the group we put together and thrilled to work with the attorney general as well on the issues of prevention and interdiction of drugs so we don't get people hooked into the first place. the most important thing to me, i think the president and i both agree addiction is a disease and it is a disease that can be treated. we need to make sure we let people know, the president talked about how folks don't talk about it. we talk about cancer. we talk about heart disease. we talk about diabetes and we're not afraid to talk about it but people are afraid and ashamed to talk about drug addiction.

while they don't talk about we lose lives, lives of good, good people. in the end the president ended by saying, talking about life, and he and i are both pro-life. the difference with the president and i we're pro-life for the whole life. not just for nine months in the womb but for the whole life. every life is an individual gift from god and no life is irredeemable. people make mistakes. we all have. people make a mistake of drug use, and it is a mistake, we can't throw their life away. president and i believe that every life is an individual gift from god and is pressures. i think that is why it was such an important issue to him in the campaign. why i'm so honored to work with a president who understands the value of life and the value of second chances. that is what this commission i hope is going to be about, to be able to give he and the vice president the best suggestions we possibly can how to have a national fight against this epidemic. mr. president, thank you for

your confidence in all of us and thank you for your support. >> thank you very much, chris. maybe, vanessa, you could tell a little bit of your story and how it has turned out so beautifully. we're so proud of you. >> so, first of all i would like to take this opportunity to thank you so much, to bring this whole platform to a national level. you are literally, everyone at the table is saving lives. there is people dying every single day. it's heartbreaking and governor christie, i need you to know i draw so much strength and courage from you. you standing up for people that have nearly given up completely. extraordinary. i come from a small town in south jersey. my aunt is a teacher. and she taught me the importance of education. my uncle is firefighter. he taught me the importance of law and order. i went to a private high school. i was a cheerleader. i went to college where i joined a sorority.

after i left college, i had an injury and was prescribed painkillers. so quickly it took off from there. i didn't know anything about heroin. i was never warned not it is anybody else's fault, i take full responsibility. >> this all began very innocently with an injury? >> yes. with a prescription of painkillers. >> what was it? what was the drug they gave? >> percocet. from percocet it went to oxy. from oxy it went to heroin. it is definitely like you said more accessible and so much cheaper. very quickly i lost everything. i was homeless. i chose to be homeless. i was living on the streets of atlantic city. i was in and out of jail and i was lucky enough to see some kind of light where i was, became a drug court participant, the drug court system we have in

new jersey saved my life. they sent me to a long-term treatment facility, integrity house in new jersey and they saved my life. >> how hard was that getting off this horrible stuff? how hard was it for you? >> physically? it was so hard. i felt that was the hardest part. but then, a couple of months late every becomes the psychological aspect of it, and you still think you need it, because you're still not as happy when you're happy. you're still, not as sad. it's, you have no feelings. like you're a shell and, and it takes over your whole life, to choose to be homeless instead of live with your parent. to choose not to speak with your family. >> -- during this whole process? i'm looking at you, you're like all-american perfect. okay, you're a perfect person. and i'm saying it is hard to believe you are living on the streets.

>> it was so hard for my family. my mom would drive the streets of atlantic city begging people to find me. she couldn't find me. i was that lost in every aspect of the word. in jail, like i said, i was sent to integrity house. they saved my life. they gave me a second chance at life. from there i went to a halfway house. i got a job where i quickly moved up. i'm now a manager. i have my own apartment. i'm graduating drug court this year. and, it's amazing the opportunity that have been given to me. i'm sitting across from you right now. three years ago, i didn't have a place to live. and today i'm here to represent the light that can be born out of the he defeat of this darkness. it's, there is hope and there is a tomorrow and there is a day after that. you just have to fight for it.

people have to know that there are people fighting for them too, because you give up. there come as point where you feel you have nothing. you already ruined everything. there is no point to get sober, but i'm here to show you there is hope. you can get better. there is a better way and there is a better life. and i wish i could tell you the the heartbreak i feel with the people overdosing every day and dying and families that have to go through that suffering because there is no need. we can help somebody. we can change this. and that's the most amazing thing i have ever been a part of in my whole life. i would like to thank each and everyone of you for giving me this opportunity. it means the world to me. it is my life. i used to think that being an addict was my downfall but look

at me. i'm here today. it is obviously made me stronger and better person. >> incredible. [applause] amazing, amazing. thank you so much, vanessa. i will talk to you a little while. aj, i know how successful your father is and what a great man he is. that also put pressure on you in a different way, right? >> i didn't end up going into politics. >> don't do it, aj. >> so i mean, vanessa really spelled it out but i grew up in a little town in south jersey called haddonfield. a picturesque town, really good schools. my dad is supreme court justice in the state of new jersey. thank you for the appointment, governor. [laughter]. my mom also served in state government and i grew up, i was a good student.

i was an athlete. i found alcohol and other drugs. i was probably well on my way to having an issue but then i found oxycontin. my dad got into an accident and i decided that it would be a good idea to try it and, that's really where my story started. you know, now -- >> [inaudible]. so much about oxycontin. were you immediately hooked? >> yeah. when i did, i did my first one, remember doing this thinking this how i want to live the rest of my life. i was always searching something outside of myself make me feel better. people think the drug is the problem. to some extent accessibility is. addiction was always a disease i always had and had to be unlocked. that is what i feel oxycontin did for me. when that happened, and i'm a brother and son and i own a treatment center. i'm so happy i went that route,

i was on that track of governor's advance teach, not that i love it. i really enjoy what i do helping other alcoholics and addicts. >> do you still have an alcohol problem? >> i don't drink or do any drugs. >> you were going to see you would have that problem but you found this oxycontin. >> you know, i was a he thief and a liar. i ended up homeless. my parents did not want me home. i was living out of my car. i ended up going to a long-term treatment center. i accepted what i was, that i was an addict. i would rather have died than live with that. i left my friend to kill myself. i wasn't able to get home. i surrendered of the a lot of people don't believe this part of a story, whatever someone's conception of god or higher power is, i got on my niece on a shuttle i had independent uses, god, please let me die. i planned to shoot myself. i didn't have a gun. let me die or get this i swear

to you, that obsession vanessa talked about to use was lifted that day. my goal in life is helping otheralcohollics or addicts. i think, back then i would have rather die than have this disease. now a normal person can be miserable and can be angry and resentful. that is how they will live their life. me, if i get angry, resentful, if i'm miserable, i will drink, do dope and heroin and then i will die. so i'm grateful. >> not anymore, right? >> i don't have, i'm not allowed to be miserable. i have to try to get the most out of life. normal people won't have that they won't die if they don't do that i'm grateful i am what i am. that's it. >> amazing stories. how did you get off it? did you go to a senter or something or what happened? >> i did. i went in the mountains in arizona, this place. i was only coming off opiates. and they said, it was this tall guy, never forget his name is

bird, what are you coming off of, opiates. you don't need detox, you will feel like you will die but you won't die. they put me in the center detox cold turkey. >> what was that like? >> it is like 20 times worse than the flu but the anxiety worst part. suicidal ideations. if i had drugs in front i mean i would have done. >> he was right? >> yeah, he was right. >> you got through it? how long did that take. >> two weeks? they used to call it cold turkey, right? do they still do that? >> yeah. >> you went through two weeks of that. it was hell? >> yeah. >> you knew you were going to get better? >> no. the mental obsession came. i wanted to use so badly, but i accepted what i was, but i knew i couldn't. i wanted obsession to stop. i wanted my brain to stop yelling at me to pick up. i didn't want to be that person anymore.

so i figured i would kill myself and it would stop. but i, my dad, you talked about -- he canceled -- my personal credit cards. i still don't know how he did it. i wasn't able to get on a plane to get home what i needed to end my life. i got on my knees and prayed. that was beginning. >> he did a great service when he did that. smart guy. you have done an amazing job. it is so great. not easy, right, aj? >> no. not easy. >> very proud of you. chris? [applause] >> mr. president, pam works in the new jersey state department of education. and, she is come one came to candlelight vigil i held before christmas for addicts in new jersey and families. ut her son carlos. >> first of all, mr. president

and vice president, cabinet and extreme honor. i am here unfortunately because my son is no longer here. as governor christie said, i came to his candlelight vigil celebrating the fact with our education commissioner who is my boss, that my son was 10 month clean. he had been a year-and-a-half clean before that. before he had a relapse. one of many, several, celebrating his life and celebrating the lives of everybody to has, you know, who are in recovery. and, and then, later in december, actually, before that, i just want to. on december 3rd, this is not his normal attire as 3-year-old? on december third he was at church with my husband mike and me. could see behind me and left, walking down the aisle on my wedding day, one of happiest

days of my life. carlos is happy, healthy, thriving working, getting ready for school. had a job, steady girlfriend, everything together. celebrating him at candlelight vigil. been at our wedding december third. three weeks later on december 23rd, two police detectives show up at our door tell me news no parent ever wants to hear. we didn't understand. this is a disease, you don't understand the dynamicses of it. my son od'd after being clean for 10 1/2 months, od'd on a drug laced with fentanyl? >> getting just out of control.

carlos started smoking marijuana 15 1/2 years old. absolutely for him a grate way drug. led to heroin, cocaine, crystal meth. at 18, when he was senor in high with months to graduate he had a cristal meth overdoes and by the time i got to the hospital -- i didn't know he was doing this. by the time i got to the hospital the er said, you need to call your family now, i don't think there's anything we can do for your son. he suffered minor memory loss from that. as an 18-year-old, he said, i'm not going to touch anything again, had him in a program but less than a couple of names later he's back on the streets, not only taking drugs but got caught smoking pot and ended up in jail. i had told him early on, i will

put every penny, every time i have in your recovery and getting you clean and helping you stay clean and supporting you 100% but you end up in trouble with the law, there's nothing i am doing for you because you to figure the way out of that. he was in jail a couple of times. he actually went to cold turkey in jail getting clean. when he was clean for a period of almost a year and a half

they'll be empty seats at the thanksgiving table, christmas presents we won't be able to give. i will miss his laughter and his drive and sense of humor. when i asked him if he would walk my down the aisle, he asked me, what does that entail, what does that mean, but i'm pretty sure, i watched enough tv to know that i have to take my fishing trip to see if he measures up. [laughter] >> i had people coming up to us at the life celebration saying, your son is amazing. your son saved me, your son was one of the people that came and dragged me out of house that i

was living in and took me to his place and gave me money that he really didn't have, brought me to a meeting. this is why i'm here. i'm here because i would like to see nationally what's happening with governor christie has managed to have happen in new jersey but, of course, with the help of legislators there, to make the program for recovery accessible and affordable to all because this is -- i was fortunate enough to have a good insurance plan but where there came a point that carlos needed to be in a program that was covered by the insurance plan. four days in a recovery program and those who haven't had any experience, you guys know, that's nothing. carlos beg today stay in and we scrambled and got the money to stay and we were able to keep him in. i'm here because no parent should have to bury their child, no parent should have to, you know, wonder, i did the drive

looking for carlos day and night. nobody should have to go through this. this is entirely something that can be dealt with and i appreciate what you are willing to do in shedding the light. >> would he have been in better shape? would it have possibly saved him or not really? >> well, i think that he was in a couple of programs for a period of -- are you okay? >> he was in a program 35 days. that was his most successful program. as aj mentioned, carlos had an underlying problem with self-esteem and, you know, feeling good about himself. he just never could quite get there. he had a scholarship to university as a freshman, he was accepted in an engineer program. he had a lot of gift and talents but he never saw that. he was always looking for how

can i escape, how can i -- and like aj, he also thought several times about suicide. so i think it's treating -- treating the whole person, it's not just the disease addiction but what is causing you to go after the drug to stay with it and once you're hooked, you're hooked, but what can you -- how can you work within yourself to feel good about yourself to feel that you're worthy. everybody is loved. everybody should feel loved and governor christie said every life is a precious life and i believe that every life is worthy of being reclaimed and unfortunately carlos couldn't entirely reclaim his life and behind everybody who is trying, suffering with addiction or in recovery, their parents and their family just like me. >> great guy and i know how

tough it is. so many people go through it and we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> do you have anything to say? >> well, i just want to thank you for sharing your story because that's what we are all here about and we are seeing a surge in drug abuse and addiction. new england journal of medicine had a commission pointed out that with regard to heroin we've got more availability, lower price and much higher purity. that creates a more addiction quicker, i think, and it's a very dangerous situation. i do believe, mr. president, we took -- when i became united states attorney in '81 and the president and others led, the education department led and it took 20 years when we reduced drug abuse dramatically. it's beginning now to start back up.

i think if we apply -- >> when did it start again? it's so bad. when did it start over the last how many years where it took the big spike up? >> i think director chuck rosen burg. >> you would know that. >> we have seen spikes in '05, '06, '07. in the five t ten years the trajectory have been awful. there's number of pieces, one is that we consume as americans most of the world supply of oxycodone. once you get hooked on that, heroin is cheaper and more plentyiful and they just make transition. we have to change the culture.

i think we can. one of the things we do at dea and i'm proud of men and women who do law enforcement really well, but ever since i was a brand-new federal prosecutor many, many years ago, i never thought we would enforce or prosecute our way out of this. that's part of it. it's really important part of it but we have always at the dea now turned to education, prevention, we talked about those things all of the time. i want folks to know, if i may, sir, we do a national takeback program twice a year. next one is on april 29th and people can drop off at 5,000 sites around the country courtesy of dea and local partners anything in their medicine cabinet that they don't want. last year we took in 1.6 million pounds of stuff. it includes everything, but we are going to do that relentlessly twice a year and encourage people to turn in

drugs and try to break the cycle. >> so it's been really spiked over the last eight to ten years. would that have anything to do with the weakening of the borders because a lot of it comes from the southern border? >> a lot of it comes through méxico, a lot of it is produced in méxico. i should say this, we have worked closely with the mexican counterparts. a lot brave men and women are trying to help us do what we do. secretary kelly knows that as well as anyone. a lot of it also comes from asia. i was recently in china. i met with our counterparts there. a lot of synthetics is produced in china and our chinese counterparts have added some of those drugs to their ban list precluding it from -- hopefully precluding it from leaving china and coming into north america.

there's a lot work to be done. there's a lot of smart people around the table but i can tell you from the perspective of the dea, sir, law enforcement is crucial, education and prevention and treatment is equally crucial. >> thank you very much. >> yes, sir. >> all right, thank you very much, folks. thank you. yes, we will. big issue. very big issue. thank you. neil: you were just witnessing something remarkable at the federal level. a president committed to assigning a task force to beheaded by new jersey governor chris christie to get to the bottom of the nation's opioid abuse. it became a issue particularly in new jersey when they discovered during the primary that one in four families were affected by those who abuse prescription and nonprescription drugs. suicides are at an all-time

high. it affects wealthy females -- families and not so wealthy families. just the prescription drug abuse has seen death rise seven fold in the last ten years. governor chris christie is assigned to getting to the bottom of it and what we as a nation can do to correct it. all of this stuff cost money, as you know. we hope to go back to sean spicer. i do want to bring you up to date for something that concerns ris christie. two-year prison for role in conspiracy wire fraud and civil rights violation having to do with the shutdown of the george washington bridge at the time to be political payback for a local mayor who did not come out in chris christie. a democratic mayor at that.

another key aide has been innocenced there. we are not getting the details of what bridget anne kelly is getting. all of that happening as republicans reboot to repeal and replace health care. live covered press session in the white house. the washington examiner sarah is joining us now. sarah, what do you think of that? >> it's clear that the administration has a big commitment to this bipartisan popular initiative because there were four cabinet secretaries in that room with president trump and they are indicative of the commitment to come.

you had va secretary shulke, education secretary betsy behaves there to address the problem that the nation's youth with drugs, drug abuse and drug trafficking underpins a lot of push for president trump's stronger borders. this is a law enforcement issue as well. you had sort of a presence of people who were demonstrating the signal the white house wants to send that they want to attack this problem from all sides and that it's worst consuming the time of such high-profile people including the president himself. neil: i don't remember seeing anything from the republican or democratic administration. we came close to jimmy carter. we didn't have the capacity where they were addressing

mental health in particular. but this is sort of akin to that. but it's always about money, right, and whether programs or initiatives undertaken in individual states like new jersey are going to be enough. >> exactly. luckily for the trump administration this is not going to be an issue that's likely going to draw a lot of resistance from democrats. so if they we wanted to get this appropriated at the federal level for programs, they are not going to have that much of a difficult time and this actually might be a smart thing to pursue early on while they are having trouble like you said with the health care situation, they're not getting traction on that front. this is a legislative battle that could be an easy win. that would be popular and tha would do real good for people. it's smart for the administration to pursue this now and once they are drawing more attention to the problem of illegal drugs trafficking over the southern border, that's going to help the president's

argument as he tries to move forward getting appropriation for the construction of the wall. neil: i would imagine on this opioid discussion captured on the white house cameras here that this is part of that in looking at health care, right? >> right. i mean, they want to show that they are -- have a broad portfolio and willing to engage people across the spectrum. you saw very broad variety of people from families who were affected to law enforcement officials down to the state level, i believe, the florida attorney general was there as well. they're willing to bring in people from all sides. the listening sessions have become sort of a unique feature of the trump administration. but that's something that they likely learned from and you might expect to see some of the listening sessions about health care moving forward. neil: all right, sarah westwood. you don't see this very often.

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neil: all right, let me cut to

the chase of what was going on at the spicer press because we were focused on the cabinet room. sean spicer said we are working on everything. everyone, take a chill pill. we will get the tax thing done and the markets seem to be welcoming that. it didn't really move much based on any of the stuff. scott martin, you're looking at that and the dow down 56 and hoping that those tax cuts materialize and still hoping rightly so? >> absolutely, neil. i mean, this market is built on confidence right now and we were delta low last week when we had trouble with health care because that got extrapolated to tax reform to regulatory reform and naturally the s&p pulled back. as paul ryan has come out and said, listen, we are going to get back the faith of some of the house republicans that let the market to get -- neil: wouldn't the markets much preferred to hear another battle on health care, drop that for now and focus on the tax cuts

and go 24/7 on them? >> yeah, you're in my discussion in the last couple of weeks, i don't know why they went to health care. to me health care was rat's nest. that would have been the easy kind of empty nether to put a hawk analogy with the black hawks heading to the playoffs here. i agree, that was the one that you could put in and you could deal with health care later as all the tax cut planned out. neil: the markets have held up remarkably well even though with the nine out of the last ten sessions being down and maybe it'll get to to be 10 in the last 11, but they've held their own and i'm wondering why they've held their own. >> well, i think there's two reasons. there's still a lot of cash on the sidelines, there's still so many investors, neil, i would guess more on the left side than the right side that have said out or got out after trump got into the election -- got in the white house and so forth got to be president elect on

november 9th. some of that cash is starting to come back in. i know being an adviser myself, having a lot of clients, a lot of clients have put cash back to work. as money comes back in markets and avoids bonds, stocks are still the only game in town and that's why you're seeing the s&p supported here. neil: all right, buddy, thank you very much. scott martin. i would be remiss if i didn't mention samsung out with galaxy 8 today. remember 7 where the phones were blowing up on people? it's going and hoping that this type can a critically acclaimed phone, 6.2-inches across, that'll be the charm. we will see. more to this

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halprin said this is not the way they want in the beginning. this kneel, vote on it, yea, nay, be done with it. now they have a another stance. what do you make of it? >> we're seeing totally change in strategy here before our eyes. they're not acknowledging it, but that is what is happening. mike tyson said everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. the administration got punched in their face and now they're trying to punch back. they're throwing against the wall to make sure something will stick to build up on that momentum. they have the opposite of momentum and need something in place in order to get their legislative strategy back on track and it's an uphill he will for sure. neil: dan, on this show we normally guests quoting economists and international number crunchers. i appreciate the fact you went to mike tyson. >> you normally have more sophisticated types. neil: no, you're absolutely right. it raises a question.

i don't know why they're revisiting something so problematic for them? maybe there is a strategy. you want to get the trillion dollars in tax savings and all of that to go ahead launch the tax cuts, whatever but they were so divided on that, i don't know if a little more time will make them more united but what is the thinking on this, let's get this thing right before we go to the next phase? >> well there's two reasons for them to revisit health care. one, primarily there is a big, big promise by republicans over the last six years that this would be repealed an replaced and now the legislation went up and there wasn't even a sing is gel vote on it in -- single vote before it went down. neil: there wasn't for lack of trying. >> there wasn't lack of trying but at this moment there were or the reasons. look how it looks three-years time. if president trump and

republicans campaigning, for some republicans members of the house it will come a lot sooner, they're campaigning in their districts or in their states if they're senators saying, people will ask them, what did you do about obamacare? you promised you would repeal and replace it. look, you didn't even hold a vote. at the moment there looks like a big fight but they tried very hard but over time it looked like they didn't try nearly hard enough. therefore they need to go back and try to find a different way figure out how to come up with their promise. what is interesting, they're talking, you hear this from the white house a lot in last 24 hours. they will reach out to democrats and democrats that will push them over you but if you talk to democrats around town, their strategy is the opposite. they will not work with trump at all. there is nothing trump will do toain their support. neil: isn't in their interest to fix the health care thing? it will come back to them if it is not fixed. they don't like the idea repeal is still on the table.

chuck schumer said take it off the table we might work with them but that will not happen, right? >> i think a smart democratic strategy to introduce bills and legislation they think would help fix some of the problems but i don't think it is necessarily to work with republicans because that only helps republicans. republicans do ultimately want to repeal the bill and strike big blows at the very least to the bill. so, they're, ultimately it will come back to the strategy that they had before, to work with republicans and try to pass something, i think this new strategy is to say, is a signal not to democrats but more to republicans to say if you don't work with us, what will be in place will be a lot worse. the problem is that democrats don't want to work with republicans, and it is kind of, it is kind of not really genuine because i don't think you will have enough support from democrats to really push anything meaningful over the ledge. neil: all right, dan, always

good seeing you, thank you very much, mike tyson reference, brilliant, brilliant! dan halprin. markets sea sawing but holding their own. charlie gasparino, they have to held out for what is right. >> i don't want to make your head bigger than it already is, i was having drinks with investors, they brought up cavuto said why did they start with health care. neil: how many drinks did you have? >> you should ask how many drinks they had. no, they were straight at the time. here is reality. wall street is convinced that the president made strategic error starting with health care as and i pointed out many times. neil: he is doing it again. >> he is probably doing what he should have done at first. let's take the long road here. let's do this over time and build in consensus while we get tax cuts going. neil: here is where i am

confused, charlie, help me with this. i understand build this consensus, try to do this right. does that mean they will work on dual tracks on this, but tax cuts meanwhile are done first? >> that's what they're saying. while this becomes the backburner issue. now here is the sort of interesting thing the logic of the market. i think the market net-net will like that. we've had a selloff but nothing dramatic. neil: 2% at times. >> there are technical reasons why just going forward if you're an investor worried whether this will blow up your portfolio, i would say, take a deep breath. i'm not saying go out and buy everything now, just wait until this pans out a bit but the number of stocks outstanding has dramatically declined over the last several years. it has gone from eight thousand to 4,000 today. neil: in are more mutual fund than stocks. >> yes. there is more money chasing stocks than there are stocks.

just by natural, putting money to work, by pension funds have to put money to work, they're going to be buying stocks. i'm telling you, we're giving you a minute by minute, you know, sort of analysis is here. we're telling you where your portfolio might trade based on tax cuts and things like that, but remember, there is an underlying bid for the stock market just based on supply. neil: propelling it out. retail participation has always been kind of low in the bull market rally. >> almost doesn't matter. people mutt money in index funds. -- put money. if you're average index funds guy, don't lose your marbles over this thing. i think we'll get a selloff at some point. neil: i think the selloff might be triggered, i could be wrong, triggered by tax cuts that we might get but won't be as big as we thought. i think market factors in the top rate goes to 33%. the seven rates go to three rates, which might still happen.

but i think, when they look at, maybe limits in deductions, that sort of thing, start saying wait a minute, this isn't what the doctor ordered. >> i agree with that. remember there is technical aspect here. the technical aspect is simply this. pension funds have to invest in something. they will just not invest in cash and bonds. there is an underlying -- selloffs. we haven't repealed corrections in bear markets. >> the question is will you get violent corrections you got in the past because there aren't that many stocks to buy? neil: that is inresting. >> interesting way of looking at it. it came up with a conversation i had with these guys as they were praising you, i kept trying to tell them, what, are you guys crazy? i know the guy. i actually sit next to the guy. neil: that is kind of hurtful. it felt good you were saying something complimentary but you said but. >> as hard as i tried to dissuade them they were fans. now i tried really hard.

neil: how often do you eat out with your sources? i know you have a pretty social life. >> three nights. neil: three nights a week. >> yes. and we go -- neil: there is never olive garden or tad's steakhouse. >> i can't believe i put money in scaramucci's pocket, but hunt and fish. neil: fish and hunt. very nice. >> tonight i am at campola, used to be at nasdaq. neil: do you order extra apadvertiser? >> i eat very light. grilled fish, grilled shrimp. you eat very light there. i have tomorrow my doctor's appointment, which is always wonderful, where they check that one part, if you're a guy. neil: i know where you're going. we're in the presence of a lady. >> do you want fact or fantasy? neil: right now i don't want either. thank you very much, charlie gasparino, living the good life.

samsung, that whole introduction is over. i don't know if charlie will get one of these phones but you know with very little upgrading here, the top phone, the s8 plus, that could set you back upwards of a thousand dollars. apple later this year with i 10-year anniversary phone, its top end model could touch the thousand dollar figure. they must be confident people out there will buy this but that is a lot of today scenario for a -- deniro for a phone. with all the reviews, not a one, well, how does the phone quality, voice quality sound? it is camera. it is whether you can order pizza on it. can you talk on it? >> can you get porn? neil: can you get porn? lovely. "brexit," after this.

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>> this is an is historic moment from which there can be no turning back. britain is leaving the european union. we are going to make our own decisions and our own laws. neil: british prime minister theresa may making it official. the divorce proceedings are kicking off today with this article 50 rule that essentially

gets the ball rolling and severs ties over next couple years how they will do it with the rest of the european union. we've got a lot of folks looking at this and implications of all of this. nile gardiner, former assistant to maggie thatcher. how is this going to go, do you think. >> great to be here, neil. th is a wonderful day for britain, reall it is celebration over authority and he self-determination. i'm optimistic about the "brexit" process. i firmly believe two years from now britain will once again be a truly he free nation. free from the shackles of the european union. the process so far under leadership of theresa may has been extremely successful. everything is going according to plan. i have a lot of confidence in the british negotiators working with their european counterparts this is time of tremendous optimism in britain.

a time of tremendous opportunity for great britain and i think the outlook will be great for the uk but the special relationship between great britain and the united states. neil: i wonder how it pans out? i guess in scotland the parliament there is looking at a referendum to cancel that, right, to rethink this? i don't know how likely that is but obviously not everyone is in agreement on this and some even have their doubts in great britain bit, right? where does this stand and how likely is it that we're going to see some serious bumps along the way? >> those are very good questions and first i'll tell you with regard to scotland, certainly the scottish parliament voted in favor of a second referendum of scottish membership in the united kingdom. although theresa may the prime minister, strongly resisted that, the opinion polls clearly show that if a referendum were held today in scotland, that the scottish nationalists were

emphatically lose as they did just a couple years ago. i don't think the outcome will be actually any different. if scotland did indeed leave the united kingdom. they would have to apply to join the european union themselves and spain has already said that they would veto scottish application to the eu because of their own separate he activities problems. so i think the -- separatist problems. the road is difficult for scotland if they choose to leave the united kingdom. i don't think the scottish people have the appetite to leave the uk. as you say there will sternly be speed bums because there is strong resistance from "brexit" from politicians across europe and the british government will have to use their full negotiating skills to deliver a good deal for the united kingdom. neil: we'll watch. nile gardiner, good seeing you again. to sir rothschild. he he is a sir, tough call him

sir because he is a big deal, gazillionaire, billionaire, worked in and out media, a great writer. your view of this is what? it is obviously happening, now, rolling out of this european union. what, people think it will go okay. do you? >> the health care? il: no, this "brexit" thing. >> i sorry. neil: the two are very similar in a way. >> i think "brexit" is a very interesting question for the united kingdom. obviously you have to be patient. the biggest deal will be complicated over trade deals. trade deals are much more complicated. and of course every member of the eu might have different opinions. i think germany will be very cooperative. i think some of the lesser countries would be worried if they were going to find they did not have the opportunity to having trade with the united kingdom. i think those are the big things

that might take five years or maybe longer. neil: the european union itself, decide a club for all of them, it is falling apart? >> no, i don't think it is falling apart. i take the view sometimes when you have a situation like this it may be a very good opportunity for the union to be he reorganized in certain cases. i think brussels needs reorganizing. i think a lot happens in brussels we're told a lot of money is spent there but is it spent properly? and i think there are a lot of views by different people about it. neil: but they all wince as brussels as capitol, right? they don't like it, right? >> i think people take the opportunity being in brussels but not necessarily being effective. neil: yeah. >> i think the two things of outside trade which are terribly important, which is of course affects your country as well is immigration. that is a subject high on the

agenda especially over this huge refugee problem and the other he question is security. but i think if nato is strengthened and does as well as it ds, we'll feel more positive. neil: there ardoubts about that, right? president trump has already indicate ad lot of nato members are not -- is that going to be a problem. >> no, he hasn't indicated the exact figures. we pay ours and quite a number do pay. neil: not all. 2% of gdp towards defense. >> i think the question towards the relationship between eastern europe and why britain has sent a small number of troops up to the baltic to be prepared if there is any pressure, we still have to resolve the ukrainian problem, and make sure that crimea is positive not negative. so there is quite a lot of other factors that -- neil: people adjust, right? collectively, although a lot of europeans don't flip over

donald trump but he is the president, they think they can adjust, do you? >> not for me to comment on that. neil: i think everyone knows you were supporting hillary clinton? >> that is not the way to look at politics. i have never, never supported a political party in all my life. i work for my country and -- neil: why did you support hillary clinton? >> why? because i thought she was the right person for the job. neil: did you hear her last night. she is sounding like suiting up -- >> i read the piece she said in san francisco. it is terribly important, there should be much more careful attention to what you're doing. in my lifetime politicians today aren't as scheduled to do good work as they used to. neil: what do you think she did wrong? why do you think she lost? >> i can't comment about that. i'm not knowledgeable about american politics. neil: come on. >> i think it is terribly importt to reali there are miakes min elections.

neil: do you think there is still a political future for her? would you endorse that? >> there always opportunity. we've seen that in the united kingdom. churchill got turned out but he came back, populist wave we're talking about with "brexit," many say that was telegraphing what would happen in this country with donald trump. do you buy that? that the populist wave is gripping the world or easing up? >> i don't know about gripping the world. reflect back from the days when communication changed with the arrival of the computer, facebook, all these new gadgettries and you expect on television, the television world was changed. neil: right. >> if you watch the american election i never known television stations spend so much time on politics. it wouldn't be allowed with united kingdom. neil: you -- your elections --

which is fine ideas. >> we limit the finance goes into the election. that is the difference. you do not limit it. neil: talk about the time it takes, calling elections 60 days. doesn't drag on for years. >> ours is done in six weeks. we have less than $100 million, but it is, each country has the right to do what they want. neil: absolutely, absolutely. you were critical of the way donald trump handled this health care thing but you started on ftp not too long, donald trump is proud n reading would have predictment of health care by consulting history books, in other words, things take time, that is what you are saying, right. >> on health care, tell you why. i was brought up with a health care bill because in 1946, my father was one of the chairman of biggest hospitals in london. the biggest battle for health care then postwar was to get the

doctors to agree to spread the difference between private effort and public effort. that to me is something which has to be done. you have to start with the people that really matter. neil: in other words you can't put it together in weeks or months? >> you can't, that's right. it took eight years of, terrific amount of detail. neil: right. >> but if i may say so, you have wonderful medical people here, wonderful doctors, wonderful hospitals. they are the people who should write the majority of the bill. neil: majority of them are not happy with health care now. >> because they're not allowed to participate. that is why you have to sit down with a committee across the board and look at every angle and help the poor as much as you help the rich. and this is something which i don't think people here who are in charge if i may say realize. neil: right. your wife, lady rothschild was a very big backer as you were of hillary clinton.

even in 2008, didn't flip over barack obama. and i'm wondering whether that tension or she looks back, you look back at the obama years as good, bad, what? >> well i think he did a pretty good job in certain areas. obviously there are certain areas one can always criticize but i think one has -- neil: i think she hated him, your wife. >> i don't think that is fair. neil: strongly disliked. >> not for me to judge. you should ask my wife directly. neil: but you didn't have that, right? in 2008 i assume you like her were supporting hillary clinton. >> absolutely. neil: he ended up winning obviously. >> absolutely. neil: but i think it was felt it was a missed moment, yet hillary clinton misses it again. you touched on it in the end there or in the beginning that she might be looking to try again but parties tend to look to new recruits. do you think she is too old for

that now? >> i don't know enough about the system. you have such a complicated system here in this country. neil: right. >> it is so much complicated. maybe your election system is as complicated as the health care act. neil: you could be right, you know that? you could be right. >> i don't know, i admire america on many counts but i think maybe the federal system needs to be looked at independently and rethought. george washington if he were alive today would be horrified what happened. neil: we don't know. we can't ask him. >> no. neil: very good having you here, sir. my very best to your beautiful wife. we're following these developments, following populist wave and health care passions back and forth in this country. then we're got the tax cuts. if you think it is difficult to put the health thing together, just imagine, imagine finding agreement on tax cuts. holy cow.

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neil: if you're not part of this caucus, are you a part of the tuesday group, the moderate group, what are you? >> i did not want to turn my voting card over to a group that was obstinate on getting things done. got to the point where they were never going to be a yes. they were always going to be a no. neil: all right. so he stepped out of that caucus. reports now that texas republican congressman brian babin could be joining him. house freedom caucus member, congressman warren davidson. congressman what is going on with the caucus here? >> neil, nice to talk with you. neil: same here. what is happening with the caucus? people are leaving or showing their frustration. what is going on? >> it was a tough set of dialogues. certainly a lot of pressure to go to yes on the bill that was before us.

i was a manufacturing guy before i got here back in june. i really look at it, it is very analogous to the product development cycle. at the end of the day we ran up to a deadline that was somewhat arbitrary. driven by the affordable care act's anniversary rather than progress on the bill. but i felt like we were making real good progress. there was good collaboration and i think that will continue. people are committed to solving the problem. neil: i could be wrong, you are closer than i am i like to remind guests that work in the capitol, everyone is piling on you guys, even the president, intimating, that you were the reason, not you specifically sir, the caucus was the reason the whole thing went kablooy. how do you feel about that? >> there were part of the facts. part of the people in the freedom caucus were no. neil: were you art of that no group? >> i was a no until the very end. maybe this is the best thing we

can get. thursday night when the vote had been delayed on thursday, a number of people met with the speaker. i'm sure he met with people across the conference, my encouragement to him even if there is way to get enough votes is this the product we want to launch? if it is important to get the product right or a deadline ask samsung. neil: you're right. separate redo there but this is your chance for a samsung redo here and i'm wondering whether u thk it is wise that the leadership wants to redo this so soon? many said, why don't you concentrate on tax cuts, certainly revisit health care but not now? what do you say? >> i think it is absolutely wise. that is my encouragement. pull the vote, there was process in momentum for collaboration and i think there is a will to get that done today and i think it was also wise to kill the bill.

you didn't kill progress but pulling it, even if it passed you wouldn't heal divisions. people felt angry and bitter. that is where some people are. i'm not there. i feel like there is a path we can continue to do this. a lot of it is explained by be a a -- abilene paradox, there when you look at what is going on here, people and companies are living it. certainly a lot of frustration on everyone's part friday. it didn't feel like a win for anyone on friday. we want to get this done for the american people. what i was encouraged by when i came back in on monday, it wasn't just a few of us, it was the speaker himself, broadly across the conference, look we need to find a way to work together. they're not saying this as a manufacturer, product development guy we have to get the process right. you hear analogies to sports or military. what do those guys do? they spend forever drilling and

training together. we're just now starting it when the speaker mentioned we're learning to govern, we're now starting to get that cohesion. if we cut it short around pretend we did it and don't go through the process it will handicap everything we do. i think it is wise to do it. we'll get it done and end up wi a way better bill than we had earlier on. neil: still earlier to your point, congressman. thank you very much. >> thanks, neil. neil: the good congressman related the old samsung analogy, if at first you don't succeed try again. it is trying again, samsung, with the galaxy s8, its latest phone. connell mcshane with the he details, sir. reporter: pretty good-looking phone as tossing to me. nice sin germany by the congressman -- synergy for the congressman. we know about the note 7 and exploding batteries. not only that controversy in south korea, corruption scandal

went up to the president and samsung was tied up in, unveiling the phone. seeing pictures as i speak on the screen. 5.8-inch screen on regular version. 6.2 on s8 plus. here are some other features in bullet point variety here. the curved infiniti screen they talk about, the whole front of the phone is the screen. there are no buttons on it. that gives you a lot more room to view videos or whatever you might want to do. the home button is under the screen as opposed to visible on the top of the screen. facial-recognition technology, we were watching the presentation the company made earlier, they made a big deal about this. basically since there is nothing on the front of the screen, the facial-recognition technology allows you to pick your phone up and look at it, get into your phone that way. now the they are item is bixby.

this is another thing. bixby is digital assistant or virtual assistant for samsung, their version of siri. it understands context. you pi uthe phone,ake a screen shot ofhis and send that to neil. they know what this is, whatever is on the screen at the time. last thing they were pumping up, they have a thing called dex, take a phone plug it into a dock on your desk and make it into a pc. so, a bunch of new things. we'll see how it goes. it was ironic that the main competitor of samsung, apple, saw its stock hitting all-time high in the middle of all of this. neil: obviously they tested the battery and third party software that will not cause issues like last time. they can't afford anything like that this time. reporter: understatement of the year. i think it is fair you don't want exploding batteries if you go through that issue. if you wipe all that out, there is impressive features, the screen being one of them.

we'll see how the bixby thing goes. they seem optimistic. neil: is bixby a mail or female? reporter: i shouldn't say, you can switch it with all the other ones. i'm not sure with bixby. what is your preference? neil: charlie gasparino. what are you doing. what are you doing? thank you very, very much, connell mcshane. dennis kucinich is coming up. there is a guy, uber liberal i think safe to say, good reaching across the aisle getting bipartisan stuff done. why can't these guys do it on capitol hill? president trump wants to try. what do you think? after this. [vo] quickbooks introduces rodney.

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so i think we're going to have some very good relationships, right, chuck? i see chuck. hello, chuck. [laughter] and i really think that will happen. neil: all right. the chuck to whom the president was referring to none other than chuck schumer, the democratic leader in the senate. about 50, 60 senators were there, many with their spouses, democrats and republicans alike as part of an outreach effort on part of this administration to make things right. dennis kucinich, former u.s. congressman, state of ohio. what do you think of these overtures and do they work? what do you think? >> very important for the president to reach out. iting polarized environment. it is polarized within the parties as well. the american people are polarizing appearances at town hall meetings. there is a lot of division in the country. the president has to seek to unite america. maybe do it on the infrastructure. he certainly has to do it by

april 28th when the government funding bill comes in. it is important to reach out. i know he has problems with schumer right now. senator schumer is a realist. i'm hopeful they will find a way to work together. neil: how hopeful do you think the democrats will respond, especially on the health care thing? they must know they have a short-term victory but they're concerned as anybody, chuck schumer included, the math doesn't favor health care going forward and they have to address them. how will he continue to do that? >> health care is so vexing and we have some different players, insurance companies make money no matter what the democrats or republicans are in charge. i think we have to look at health care being one of those things tha that easily. the bigger questions relate to the budget and united states presence around the world where we're at war. those are things congress will

have to deal with, assuming its power under article i, section 8. president trump needs to keep reaching out. very important to do that. whether or not he will come to agreement with some of these issues very difficult. immigration difficult. the wall, difficult. infrastructure could be a place you find agreement. neil: you're right. a number of democrats support what he is doing. that could be a way to win democratic votes for tax reform. if you don't mind me veering with a little bit of politics in california today. she sure sounded like a candidate for president again. what do you make of that? >> look how hillary clinton lost the election. it wasn't just simply that the democratic base abandoned working, middle-class americans in the midwest. i know about that. but it was also because comey interjected himself in a closing week of the election. so i think that she probably feels there is still an important place for her and there is in the politics of the

country. i would never count her out. neil: so you're not in the camp that says, with or without comey she was spiraling out of control in these, in industrial states that she was taking for granted? >> look, the answer is no, neil. you know, vocom did analysis and owed that once comey made his announcement, there was a real shift away from secretary clinton and towards, now president trump. that announcement that he made, which really was insinuating criminality, had a major impact on the election. had i been president obama at the time i would have fired comey like that. woe have been gone. neil: even though it was rejiggered later, right? he did an about-face? >> that cow was so far out of the barn once he made the announcement it was already walking down pennsylvania avenue in an inaugural address. neil: wow. or an inaugural just dress. >> hello.

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>> we're going to do an investigation with or without them. if they want to participate, that's fine. the facts of the matter are pretty clear, they don't -- we don't know who the witnesses they want to call so. i would encourage you twice to follow them around and figure out who they want to bring in and interview. neil: devin nunes, the man who runs the house intelligence committee saying he is not going anywhere. he will not recuse himself from the russian investigation with ties to team trump but it is getting nasty. kennedy here, anything but nasty. back and forth, back and forth. what is happening with this? >> it is really so strange to see the tennis match.

the players should all have cramps because the stadium is empty. neil: didn't discuss with members of the committee. furthermore he is getting intelligence data at the white house, near the white house, it alseems jame bondish and weird. >> that responsibility falls on the chairman's lap. he needs to do a better job explaining his timeline and also his defense he won't give up sources and methods though he is a member of the press. i'm wondering does the same courtesy extend to elected fishes as it does for members of the media? the media is very protective of sources lately, yet they're going after chairman nunes trying to figure out who his source was for intelligence. neil: you're right, it's a little bit hypocritical. what will happen? you could say anything that distracts from the trump agenda whether you believe all the nunes stuff and saying all the

health care was a debacle, anything to stymie that agenda? >> democrats are being selfish here, we're getting away from the ultimate aim, should be governing, taking care of the american people and getting to the bottom of very important questions and not just creating distracting questions to get a political win. i think both parties should be asking, are these intelligence agencies collecting information and conversations in ways they shouldn't? and of people who shouldn't be targeted? and i think that's a really, really important question we shouldn't lose sight of, regardless of your party. its as though democrats conveniently put all that aside in order to tar and feather one person if they can bring this guy down, if they can michael flynn devin nunes they have a political victory. neil: you're a libertarian. i always like to pick a libertarian's brain on in this

case gorsuch and supreme court. you're not into this byzantine parliament tearian procedure you need 60 votes. would a simple majority -- >> fall over from legislature. i loved roberts rules of order. never met bob. neil: did you really? good to remember now. >> really is. neil: but is it important if gorsuch ultimately is voted on and just by a simple majority he is damaged goods? >> i think the court is damaged goods. i don't think it is just for this administration. and that is why harry reid should have have employed a little foresight when he gave in to the "nuclear option." neil: harry reid's fault, right? >> exercise equipment. once he wrestled with that he was never the same. at some point republicans have to realize the opposition party will have the white house and both houses of congress. if there are multiple vacancies on the supreme court, it is going to change the face of the

court for decades. neil: see them cementing their hard-line positions here. i don't see any ground given. >> not giving ground on either side. lindsey graham made a good point. hey, we voted to confirm people we don't necessarily back, see eye-to-eye with, agree on things philosophically, but it is always up to the president to nominate someone, unless that someone is merrick garland. neil: doesn't lindsey graham -- >> merrick garland you i realize is the jennifer aniston of the supreme court. neil: you know that is brilliant? really. i was just going to do my lindsey graham impression for you. >> please do. does it involve chattering teeth? he is my favorite bachelor. neil: i like the way he says we will vote when we vote. >> that definitely right. neil: we'll have more after this. >> neil.

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. neil: all right. the dow, charlie is reporting this, he's our stock guy, our numbers expert, so never equitable with him on these details. we're looking at potentially for those averages the first monthly drop since october. nasdaq is up, investors are hoping for these tax cuts. but if they don't materialize, there could be a problem. so there you have it. but you know what? even with these losses in the nine out of ten days we've been doing, we haven't about an down a lot. still about 2% from our highs. i want to go to trish regan right now because, trish, you think about that with all the. hand bringing over the

markets are in a free fall, we're doing okay. so i'm not saying that that's a ringing endorsement of donald trump or the republican agenda, i'm just saying it could be a heck of a lot worse. >> you're a glass half full kind of guy. neil: that's the way i roll. >> but you're right. the market is still higher the day prior to him being elected. we're still in good shape and, hey, look at this. we've got a couple of days to go, and we're rallying to the flat line so who knows. neil: who knows. >> the day is still young. thanks so much, neil. here we are just minutes away fr a sene intelligence news briefing. we do get an update on what both parties think about russia and the 2016 election and what may or may not have happened. we are going to take you there live as soon as that begins. so keep an eye on capitol hill and that live picture coming to us right now in the feed. but first, i want to get to the showdown over sanctuary cities, which is intensifying today. you've got big city mayors meeting with dhs secretary john kelly to discuss president trump's new immi