is all about. lou: tomorrow night newt gingrich and jim dement among our guests. good night from new york. kennedy: should america get involved in syria? republican lawmakers at home facing angry constituent after failing to repeal and replace obamacare. chris stirewalt is here with more. what can we learn from florida's embrace of school choice. is there a chance it will ever go national? grab a notebook. once again a show of force in syria is turning into regime change which leads to nation building after pro tacted conflicts, civilian casualties

and unacceptable levels of death by an administration who won't tackle the problems in this country. in 2013 president trump questioned the cost in blood and easure but also e constitutional authority of single branch action in. >> the crowded theater. russia still backs bashar al-assad and opposing him won't happen with russia riding in our war-happy side car. it remains to be seen how keen tillerson's diplomatic powers are as he visits russia. other than provoking a nuclear

power, the youth has to consider what a syria policy is and if anyone is rationally bending the president's ear. the tomahawk shower was widely praised. but there are too many looming questions before we further weigh into the middle east mire. when assad is deposed, who is his why i his overthrow and the defeat of isis considered the say thing? i'm no foreign policy expert. but overthrowing strongmen has not ended well so far for us or their countries, and groups like isis blossom in the vacuums. all i ask is for a few simple questions be answered before we go down the complex road to

nowhere of death and death that only lead to making america bad again. what is the white house plan for syria? defeat isis? remove assad? according to h.r. mcmaster -- >> there has to be a degree of simultaneous activity as well as sequencing of the defeat of isis first. what you have in syria is a destructive cycle of violence perpetuated by isis obviously, but also by this regime and their iranian and russian sponsors. kennedy: the white house says the airstrikes are to prevent the spread of chemical weapons. russia and iran say they will retaliate. are we getting in over our head here? dr. ron paul joins me.

he's the host of the ron paul liberty report. obviously someone who gases their own people and kills babies is a bad person. i think we can universally agree on that. but the question is when and how does the u.s. get involved. >> certainly not under fake news. i think fake news is floating around because nobody has proven anything about who gassed whom. in 2013 they were claiming assad gassed his own people. the u.n. said it was the rebels that had the gas. so i haven't bought into this. intervention is intervention. intervention is bad if it's not done for our national defense. the president said our vital national security interests prompted him to do this and this was very necessary. i think it only interest here is to prop up the province of the

military industrial complex. that's what they think national security interests are all about. but no, we don't need to be in there. it's a mess. just remember, isis and al qaeda were basically out of there until we defined our policy that assad has to go under obama. but they never mention that. they just mention assad does this and that. kennedy: i think i disagree with the idea that assad wouldn't gas his own people. he's a horrible person and he hates freedom. he would kill and murder his own people to further his grasp on power. but i also agree with you getting further into the middle east -- there is no end game. when people try to give us these pat, oversimplified statement of comfort, that this is the only thing we are going to do, then

we are going to get out. then the next business day you hear we are going to get rid of assad and get raid of isis. those are massive undertakings that a some point require congressional consent and a new aumf. if you were still in congress what would you say to the president. >> i would say get out and bring them home as soon as possible because we don't have any business being there. what about the 500,000 kids that were supposed to have been killed in bombing. it has to do with war propaganda. neoconservatives politically are winning but i believe the american people are still with us who believe this war is unnecessary. they say he's a monster, maybe so.

but i don't think he's exactly what they portray him to be. saddam hussein was a monster, too, but he didn't have weapons of mass destruction. kennedy: i will agree with you that deposing these people leaves vacuums that tend to be much worse instead of getting resolved and certainly not for the benefit of our country or the region as a whole. regardless of how you physically make the case, it's impossible to make a strong argument that we should continue any incursions in the east in whether it be syria, afghanistan, iraq or libya. dr. paul, thank you for your time, i appreciate it. >> you are right. and i approach it constitutionally and morally. we shouldn't be involved. you mention for practical reasons we shouldn't be involved because it doesn't accomplish anything.

what have we accomplished in 15 years of constant war in the middle east. and adding another war doesn't help us at all. so we ought not to be there. the sooner we wake up the better the whole world will be. let me fact it crisis in syria to in the combat ready party panel. it's catherine mangu-ward joined by michael malice. and glenn ham is also here. welcome, everyone. foreign policy is dominating the news cycle. and this presidency. do you think there is something to what dr. paul was saying about maybe not having all the facts in but being a more convenient narrative for this

administration? >> one of the things that got donald trump elected was his tough talk about isis. i think people live in a certain amount of fear in the united states about what kind of domestic terrorism is brought over. i think that ties into that. whether it's about regime change, i don't think that's the rye other. i think that is the priority the american people by and large would support. >> the president has a number of people around him who are strongly making that case. i don't know how more people don't see this as being disastrous and having bad outcome. >> they couldn't repeal or replace obamacare correctly, now they are going to repeal or re-place someone in a country where most americans can't find a map. this is madness.

and every single person from the corporate press cheering his attack can't wait to turn their backs on president trump and humiliate him when it becomes a quagmire. it takes a lot for me to get livid because i'm an anarchist in general. but the idea that war is the best thing we can do is difficuld isdemented. kennedy: you make the point about the corporate press. what have they said about collusion with moscow, and now they are deriding the administration tore getting into a hot war with russia. >> they are desperate for another f.d.r., woodrow wilson. when thatcher and reagan end the

cold war without a shot being fired, they are dismissed into the dust of history. kennedy: aside from isis -- >> donald trump almost exactly a year ago described the administration's current policy as idiocy and madness. that we should be fighting isis and affect regimchange in syrihe was right first time. it takes a lot for me to find myself saying donald trump is right. but old donald trump was right, new donald trump is wrong. michael is right that this weird moment where everyone says welcome to the club, you are a real president now. congratulations on the bombing. it's like a hallmark card sentiment.

>> what happens next? it could be a different dynamic and we send a signal and now we move on. >> there are four throng years ahead. it's a repeat play. this is something that he can't -- >> it's like a slate stage alcoholic having a sip of vodka and being expected to drive a busful of kids home later in the night. a number of military analysts are claiming the miss isle attack on syria was intended to be a warning to north korea. a navy strike group with an aircraft carrier is moving towards the core treian peninsula. send something nuclear weapons to south korea as a deterrent and plans to asssite kim jong un. will this get worse before it gets better center in you spent time in north korea.

how does this play out. >> the administration has been far more bellicose towards north korea than syria. the fact that we bombed syria. there are people in concentration camps in north korea who are told if the americans attack we'll kill you all. there is no question in my mind that the regime would enact nuclear retribution. dim jon -- kim jong il showed fe of the attack and said if this happened, you will be killed. they have been waiting for this for decades. kennedy: people talk about economic sanctions on north korea -- >> all the north korean news hide yeah are showing the

footage of us sphwhawrming and coming in to finish the job they we started in the 50s. >> in both cases we are starting a proxy initiative against another major soup per power. in sirrate's targeted upgain russia. with north korea they are backed by the chinese. another difficult arrangement for to us engage in. but this is a very, very treacherous move here in terms of what might provocation of north korea result in. kennedy: there is still a diplomatic relationship with russia, a nuclear power. is there not one with north korea. >> i love that this is potentially going to hinge on which anniversary north korea chooses to celebrate. maybe they will use that as the

occasion to like make a bold move in honor -- the extent to with it is a sort of culture personality, it's dependent on a single decision maker. and we don't know exactly what the provocation will be. but something like this could surely be it. kennedy: the fact that it's tied to an anniversary shows they are oddly sentimental. but it's guaranteed to end badly. it's heartbreak. the president talks about being moved by the images of syrian kids being killed by sarin gas. >> he got picked to be supreme commander by his dad. his father said, they revel in

the idea of disproportionate retaliation. kennedy: and take the world down with them. the party panel returns later. republicans are back in their home districts where they are getting a tongue slapping from their constituents on healthcare. will they be closer to repealing obamacare when they return? i just want to find a used car without getting ripped off. start at the new carfax.com show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. [laughs] ah... ahem... show me the carfax. start your used car search at the all-new carfax.com.

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kennedy: republican lawmakers probably thought repeal and replace of obamacare would be a cakewalk because they control both houses of congress. instead of basking in victory over the easter recess, they are facing their constituents. let me bring in chris stirewalt. we have the healthcare debacle. it was a big loss for the house speaker and the president. you have lawmakers on a two-week break. and you have a government shutdown looming. what is congress supposed to do in this arena?

chris: party. no. the secret is they probably should stop trying to repeal and replace obamacare. it was -- they misunderstood their mandate. obamacare has never been more popular than when republicans were trying to repeal it. they found out they never bothered to look at the why it was unpopular. the why it was unpopular is a quarter of the opposition to the law was from people who thought it wasn't liberal enough. now the ground fell out from underneath them. they were in broad disagreement among themselves on whether to go bold or put a patch on obamacare. so they are going to have to go home and take a beating. kennedy: this is one failing program for which nicorette will

not work. you have a president who basically ignored more conservative members of congress, and it seems like if they can get the freedom caucus on board, then to other republicans who may have questioned it, it will seem like a full replace or do they go with the more moderate tuesday group and try and get some democrats on board. mathematically where is the most benefit for speaker ryan and president trump. chris: when the congress comes back from recess they will find the a white house with a different attitude than when they left. i don't want to say the president has gone washington. but he found outhere are a lot of affirmations and od poll numbers by ordering airstrikes on syria and not repealing

obamacare. i suspect the president will have some tax plant offing. as far as repealing and replacing obamacare. you take this to the bank until it doesn't happen, at which point forget i ever said this. as they get into september and october, they will start doing a lot of midnight massacres. they will use democratic votes to pass measures. obamacare needs between 7 to 8 billion dollars. they will find some ugly way in a midnight voice vote to open the so-called risk corridors, patch obamacare and get into mid-term and survive. ken are that's corporate welfare for the insurance lobby. that's unacceptable. for the 75% fed up with obamacare for the right reasons, that's the worst outcome. so hopefully instead of trying to rush something through they

can think about it more methodically. because the government giving understand companies billions of dollars is the opposite of the free market and it will only make things worse. what do they know about the looming government shutdown? >> kick the can, i assume. i don't think anybody has the appetite for forcing a government shutdown right now. they can say, we are going to just roll this forward, then when they get to the end, they can do all kinds of funny business because the secret. you said it was unacceptable what they were talking about doing with obamacare. the secret is this. as long as i don't have to vote for it. let's say i was a republican. long i don't have to vote for it. everything passes and everybody is mad, i can go back to my constituents.

i tried so hard to get what we want. kennedy: i wanted to, i just couldn't get anything done. my hand were tied. it's so kinky in washington. very good. coming up. neil gorsuch sworn into the supreme court. we'll talk about how he can impact the few stewart highest court in the land and whether libertarians should be optimistic about him.

kennedy: after weeks of lobbying and severe anger from the left, neil gorsuch was sworn in and becomes associate justice. at the white house ceremony he said he would do his best to live up to the responsibility of his position. >> i promise i will do all my powers permit to be a faithful servant of the constitution and laws of this great nation. kennedy: he was sworn in just in time as the court will meet to decide cases for the next term. he will likely be a deciding vote in many of the new cases, but will he be a champion for liberty? let's talk about justice

gorsuch. he considered justice kennedy to be one of his mentors. kennedy is a big swing voter on the court. will gorsuch become a secret liberal and do the kennedyesque swing? >> i think the people who helped shepherd his nomination think not. i think gorsuch is a strong originalist and kennedy is not. i think gorsuch will be more conservative and consistent with the original meaning of the constitution. justice kennedy is socially liberal and fiscally conservative. kennedy: he had a more subjective approach to some of these issues. >> i think libertarians like the outcomes of the decisions he wrote but not necessarily the reasoning that led him there. kennedy: including some of the

most recent on religious liberty. you say justice gorsuch could join the fourth amendment protective wing of the court. explain that. >> over the 10 years he was on the tenth circuit. he dissented or wrote a number of majority opinions that should give civil libertarians some hope. there are cases where aggressive overreaching police tactics, prosecutors, and he stood up for the fourth amendment rights in those cases. and justice sotomayois the best fourth amendment advocate on the court and i think gorsuch will join her on that. kennedy: how do you think the nuclear option will change the cosmetic of the supreme court? how will it change the overall tone for the next few generations?

>> that's a great question. justice gorsuch had the shiniest credentials. because of the super majority requirements having unimpeachable yes dengs was important. now that it's a majority, we may see the republicans bringing in judges, maybe state supreme court judges who don't necessarily have the academic credentials but are very strong voices for conservatism, originalism and libertarianism. we may see judges that are a little more radical, but some of us might like that. kennedy: on both side. i have seen progressives decry the use of the nuclear option. but when you have a democratic president and congress. the exact same thing will happen. do you think it delegitimizes the supreme court? >> the whole process has been quite politicized for some time.

there is blood on the hand of both side. democrats attempt to block and filibuster. the intense politicization of it is on going. i think it's the court's decisions continue to deserve respect and be worthy of respect. kennedy: hopefully you will rejoin to us outline some of ese things andhat they mean. now that gorsuch has tipped the court to where it appears to be a 5-4 balance. damon root. get his book. the party panel returns next. the and is going to return to t' discuss the controversy over tomahawk missiles. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake,

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kennedy: was donald trump's attack on a syrian air base all so an attack on native americans. a tweet that the missiles are called tomahawks must enrage a lot of native americans. the party panel is back.

katherine. i will start with you. i was just waiting for someone to make this case as i was watching the reports come in thursday night. is this the ultimate cultural appropriation? >> i'm reliably assured wearing a feathered headdress at coachella is the ultimate appropriation. i hesitate to denounce her fully as a human being for one dumb tweet. but this was a dumb tweet. kennedy: of all the things you n il against in defense of use of war materials --inst the >> the pentagon when they name

things they always do it things like they are young boys. the founder of rhode island was scalped. we shouldn't name american missiles over people who don't believe in private property it's un-american. >> we are talking about sarin gas on children. we are talking about big problems out there. this out of context. there is a time and place for this discussion. this felt like it wrong time. kennedy: move over rolex. sleep is the new status symbol. getting enough sleep has not

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kennedy: please get the government out of the classroom. politico reporting that education secretary betsy devos says it's a 30s built school -- it's a possibility school choice may go national using tax

credits to pay private school tuition. the administration seize it as a model for the whole country. advocates y vouchers give parents more funding. critics saitakes money away from public schools. jonathon hoenig, it drives me crazy people who say this is immoral and bad because parents who opt out of the public school system using their tax money to find a different alternative for their kids' education, they are going to leave faming schools. should failing schools be left in place? >> something has to change here. it's not working. the last 40 years the government spent 300% more on education. it's been $80 billion on no child left behind.

test scores are going down. and parents are going towards these private market based alternatives where test scores are across the board higher and costs lower. often religious, but private. ultimately fully privatization and vouchers would be a productive step for parents, and especially for students. kennedy: the school districts that get most money like l. a u.s. c. and new york city and washington, d.c., there is no accountability. there is anyone season tough to improve schools because there is no natural force acting on them to make their schools better like there is with private schools and charter schools which close if they do badly, and parents revolt and pull their kids out of those schools.

parents who have taken their kids to charter schools and oftentimes to private schools, they are exercising a choice sometimes out of the total frustration and they are not afraid to use that flexibility. that's why these schools and these programs have to be better. >> choice. choice is the word. it's amazing to me. parents who would never use the u.s. postal service would go around the corn and drop their kids off at a public school. they say it's terrellably mismanaged and terribly expensive. this goes back to the progressive ideas understood john dewey started coming into the culture. we need to he neans pay the higher -- we need to emancipate the higher education system. we should want to see government

schools close and walmart and microsoft and amazon open a school. kennedy: not all public schools are bad. they go, they research and try to find the best public schools so their kids can thrive and all parents should have that option. jonathon hoenig, thank you very much. coming up. flying commercial has always been a drag. but united airlines, now they are really dragging people off planes. it's just... we were going to ask about it but we weren't sure when. so thanks. being upfront is how edward jones makes sense of investing.

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kennedy: serrcia may have won the masters of golf, but the following five stories are the masters of the internet. this is the "topical storm." topic number of one. many airlines will bump their overbooked passengers from a flight. but united airlines is dragging them off the plane. airline in needed to make room for their standby crew. but after no one volunteered to give their seat, the computer randomly selected people to be kicked off. that's a man who said he was a doctor who needed to see passengers in louisville. he refused to get up sow the airlines knocked the guy out and

dragged him off the plane. oh, my gosh. holy underwear. i would fly united. what in the wide wide world are of sports is going on over there. good they can wasn't flying spirit airlines. they would have charged him a $75 dragging fee. but it isn't the worst thing you could hear on an airplane. >> is there anything on board who knows how to fly a plane? thankfully order was restored and the passengers resumed watching the innight movie "get up." topic number two. the bromance between bill clinton and george h.w. bush continued with our1s president visiting our 41st president at his houston home

and presenting him with self pairs of socks. the socks which were most likely purchased at a hooters gift shop. witnesses to this heartwarming spectacle saying clinton likes the picture so much it's now his profile pic. it's nice to see two people can be suchr such great friends. donald trump decided to visit hillary in her home. that's so nice. nice to see her out of the woods. she looks great in that pants suit. she is so secretly hot. you should see what's under her burka. have you ordered food delivery during a rooftop party and then realize you were way too sauced to make it downstairs to meet

the delivery guy? cheer up, a group of of partyers just solved our problem. watch this. she can be seen hearing basket on a rope down to a delivery guy. they are going to take it money out and send the food up. first there was the come knows. now it's hit the road. onlookers can be heard aflawghtd background. it turns out the delivery guy was once a basist for the cranberry. that's a mean joke. but we don't have to let it linger. we don't have to let it linger. topic number 4. my mom i hope is not watching

because if she hears this story she'll cross herself and bathe in liquid salt. a dead bat was found inside a packaged salad at a florida walmart prompting a recall by the fresh salad company. to be fair this is probably the 98th craziest thing to happen at a florida walmart. but the news still sent shop waves through the florida community. several shoppers were so appalled they stopped eating out of the bags in the store. there was a woman in a motorized wheelchair who was able to calm everybody down. it's believed the bat was trampled while trying to buy a flat screen tv on black friday. a local police officer ticketed a man for driving without

mullet. a felony. topic number five. new yorkers say the rent is too damn high. but resident at a houston apartment building say the pool is too damn high. that's the infinity fool located 40 store -- pool located 40 stories up. it was meant to give people the sensation they are walk on air. but it on gives them the sensation they are tinkling in air. it's 500 feet above the ground. the only thing higher in houston is jim harden. you can contact me on twit ear and facebook @kennedynation. and email me at kennedyfbn@foxbusiness.com.

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