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give it to the passenger. molly, thanks so much for being with us. tomorrow john solomon of circa and tony schaeffer on the deep state. good evening. secrety of state rex tillerson following the president's lead of honest, plain spokenin directness.. tillerson holding open, direct talks with russian president vladimir putin for nearly two hours at the kremlin. at a news conference sergei lavrov said bluntly he and putin don't agree on much. >> there is a low level of trust between our two countries. the world's two foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. lou: putin himself apparently
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agrees telling russian television, quote, one could say the level of trust on a working level hasn't improved, but is rather deteriorated. and relations with russia. one of the issues as the president met with nato general jens stoltenberg. the president said america's relations with russia is at an all-time low.it >> this has built for a long period of time. we'll see what happens. and we'll see about putin over a long period of time. it would be a fantastic thing if we got along with putin and russia. it may not happen. i would love to be able to get along with everybody. right now the world is a mess.rl but i think by the time we finish, i think it will be a lot better place to live.
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lou: the president reversingng himself on nato, saying the global alliance fist quote no longer obsolete. joining me to talk about rising tensions with russia. thee may tos playing and the obvious improvement ingest n relations with china. ed: you have to with the chinese, wait and see what happens. i think they are off to a good start. obviously the goal of curtailing korea's activity is a very positive thing.
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i would much rather see attention paid there as well as the trade and military front. they are very significant. lou: the president is talking about, it could be worth deficits to have china intercede and cooperate with the united states in shooting down north korea's nuclear weapons program. ed: i want to see that happen first before we give up on the trade front. i think the key thing is, it's a good positive first step.ca the critical thing is to make sure they live up to it and they force the koreans to behave themselves. lou: the opposite view could be taken of what is happening with russia. at an all-time low thesi relationship since the days of the cold war. i had a strong feeling as i am listening to tillerson, that there was no movement of any
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kind. and also some expectation there would be movement on the part of putin, t united states unableit to come to grips with the idea that putin could support a bloodthirsty dictator who would use chemical weapons on his own people. ed: the premise they will be good guys is totally contrary to what they have done in the lasts several years. i was pleased that tillerson passed the message forcefully as a former friend. i'm sure he never had that kind of dialogue with putin in the past. i'm impressed with him in terms of passing the message that you have to behave. if you want to be part of the world community. if not you wouldn't be treated well. lou: the president said he would like to see a positive relationship with russia and at the same time across knowledgin
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it may not possible it's one thing to represent exxonmobil. but another to be representing the president of the united states donald trump in those meetings. ed: i have seen no weakness in tillerson. i think he performs well. i think tell be one of the real stars of this administration. lou: let's get to the white house where you spent a lot of time.lo the president coming out strongly saying bannon just j isn't -- i guess the word is he's not indispensable. ed: no one is indispensable but the president.t. bannon represents the people who elected this president. bannon was a critical player. bannon was out there every single day, helping craft a lott of that message and basically crafting the message on the state of the union inaugural speech which was a first step forward.
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the other side, the son-in-law and daughter are a much softer -- there is always part of an administration.n there are people who want to do 80% of what the democrats did. reagan and his people wanted to change the government. bannon wants to live up to the promises trump made. lou: i think the president does, too. ed: it would be very important to keep him. priebus stacked the white house with a people from the rnc that were never for the president. lou: it's frustrating to watch the president. i know he doesn't -- my assumption is that he thinks it doesn't have a cumulative effect. but the weight of all of these establishment figures and left
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wingers, gary cohn, he's left ie wing. ed: he ran on goldman sachs then put in five to six formerhe principals. lou: it will be interesting to watch as this unfolds.s. and we'll be delighted to have your insight. ed rollins, thank you so much. ed: thank you. lou: secretary of state rex of tillerson says bashar al-assad must go. >> the final outcome in our view does not provide a role for assad or the assad family in the future go external nance of syria. lou: russia, however, disagrees. we take up deteriorating relations between russia and the united states. a bombshell report reveals thene f.b.i. obtained a fisa warrant
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so you'rhow nice.a party? i'll be right there. and the butchery begins. what am i gonna wear? this party is super fancy. let's go. i'm ready. are you my uber? [ horn honks ] hold on. don't wait for watchathon week to return. [ doorbell rings ] who's that? show me netflix. sign up for netflix on x1 today and keep watching all year long. lou: we wanted to take a moment to remember someone whose memory and influence in the
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intelligence community willing felt for generations to come. hugh montgomery served for six decades. he parachute into normandy on d-day. he fought and was wound. of and was key to the mission. he earned a masters and a doctorate. he was fluent in 8 languages. he had a working knowledge of even more languages. he worked nearly every important cia station in the world. his honors include the distinguished careerhi intelligence medal. office of strategic services society swaird for service to the profession and the williamam
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j. donovan award. he lost his life of 66 years two years ago.th they are you are swiefd by their two children. hugh montgomery, the cia's longest serving operative.d, he was 94. my next guest calls montgomery a hero of american intelligence. fred fleitz. it's great to have you with us. if you will, reflect on hugh montgomery and his service to the nation. fred: he was a hero of american intelligence, a founding father of the cia. he was a mentor to me.
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he was a big fan of your show. he wasn't doing well the last few years. but he took special pleasure in receiving one of his mentorees appearing on your show. he used to call me after every show. he was a big fan. lou: fred, thanks for sharing that. let's turn to analysis if you will of what is happening first in russia. a low point for relations between the two countries, some say even more than any point. i can't believe that. a lower point than even the cold war. fred: it clearly isn't lower than any points during the cold war. i think of the cuban missile crisis. this is not about the miss soil strike in syria. this is about the russianme government trying to assess the trump administration. they are realizing all they gained from the weakness and appeasement of the obama
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administration and the unserious secretaries of state. they realize that's gone. they have a president who is decisive and stands behind his words. he has a secretary of state who is serious who walks in there and says what he means and means what he says. russians will have to get used to this. lou: they may be sending outss invitations asking for john kerry to around the post. is there an opening here to put some distance between the assad regime and russia and for the united states and the west to move closer to russia? fred: it will be difficult too negotiate an agreement. to negotiate with the russians, they have to take it seriously. they have to see us as credible. that's what tillerson is trying to communicate.
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i have other problems with syria. i see syria as a quagmire. i don't see any american interests in getting rid of assad. i worry if we get rid of assad, we'll make the situation worse. lou: there is always that possibility. the law of unintenldsed consequences and without due thought to what will follow initial success. because we know in the case of iraq and other instances of late what follows success was decidedly failure. so your concerns i would have to say i share as well. let's turn to nato. the president making much of the discussion with the secretary-general today reversing himself saying now that nato is no longer as he put it earlier obsolete, it's now critical. and important. your thoughts on the turnaround.
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fred: i was glad to hear that and i was glad to heart strong statement that other nato members have to pull their weight. we are not going to lecture or shame the russians into changing their policies. but i think we can lecture a shame the europeans to contribute what they said they would contribute to funds nato. the president is right to push this. lou: do they have enough pride to stand up for their own defense for the 2% of their gdp of payment or putting up their own forces and take some sense of responsibility for their own security? let's turn to the obama spying scandal. this is getting larger and larger. your view, today we learn that the shadow government of the trump administration is still at work, and they had sought a fisa
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warrant.t. this is against a trump advisor. what do you make of this and where is it headed? fred: carter page was a low-level unpaid trump advisor. this is another felony it's a felony to leak a secret fisa warrants. either former obama official or pro obama people who were left behind in the government, they broke the law again. why did they do that? because the investigation of russia in congress is not going the way the democrats want it it's focusing on susan rice and they want to try to turn it back towards the trump administration.ut lou: susan rice. but also director james comey's f.b.i. who sought that warrant and he reeve mains the head of the f.b.i. why? >> i don't know. but we have been hearing you can't get a fisa warrant like this.
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you north old saying a clemp attorney could indict a ham sandwich. i wonder if a clever attorney uld get a fisa warrant. loretta lynch was headinthe justice department. the process might have been abused to get this warrant.th congress needs to look into this. lou: do you believe the united nations has now outlived its usefulness? cast your vote@lou dobbs. on wall street stocks closeded lower today. the dow down 59 points. if the nasdaq down 31 points. the dollar falling to session lows after president trump told the "wall street journal" theto. he was the same candidate who
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promised to well remind the world that china is a currency manipulator. but circumstances and exchangece markets do change. the united scandal continuing to hurt the airline stocks. shares down another 1%. listen to my reports three times a day coast to coast on thedie salem radio network. president trump offers better trade terms in exchange for the cooperation and assistance inrel ending north korea's nuclear weapons program. >> president xi wants to do the right thing. i think he wants to help us with north korea.a.ea the way you will make a good trade deal is to help us with north korea. lou: a little horse trading going on. that's the subject of my commentary. another trump advisor targeted for surveillce.
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how deep does the obama spy scandal go?
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lou: more questions about surveillance of president tr lou: more questions about the surveillance of the trump transition team. catherine herridge talked with page today, she has our report. >> i have knowing want to hide. the more the truth comes out, the better. reporter: carter page respond to allegations that he was the subject of u.s. government surveillance last summer as part of the f.b.i. russia probe. to get a fisa warrant the f.b.i. has to have solid evidence. how do you explain it?
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>> we shall see. there was a tremendous amount of false evidence. reporter: the so-called trump dossier -- >> there is various reporting where that false evidence may have come from such as as the dossier. reporter: james comey says it'si a high legal bar to monitor an american citizen. >> those applications are often as thick as my wrist or thicker. it's a huge pain in the neck to get permission to bug somebody the youth and that's the way it should be. reporter: the senior democrat is fully briefed on the probe. >> if a fisa warrant has been issued, it's a very, very serious matter. reporter: in 2013 the f.b.i. issued orders to recruit americans.
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according to these court documents the allegation is you passed energy documents to a russian intelligence operative. is that what happened? >> it was the same energy quote-unquote energy documents i gave to my students at nyu. reporter: did the russians tryo to crow cute you? >> i was never asked by anyone to do anything untoward or otherwise. reporter: he said he had virtually no contact with paul manafort. he says a report that showed man for the received $1.2 million in off the books payment is essentially incorrect. their russian work today was described as routine following lengthy discussions with federal authorities. lou: thank you very much. great reporting. it's interesting to see the number of people deciding to register or report on the
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various aspects of theirf professional lives within a day of revelations coming out about them. thanks so much. reporter: a lot of dots are connecting at the same time. thanks. a few thoughts on our relationship with china in the face of north korean provocations. president trump reversed himself on the issue of labeling china a currency manipulator for a number of reasons. one, the yuan rising against the dollar. that's a good thing, not a bad thing. but in the midst of all of this, president trump offering china better terms on trade saying he told xi jinping solve the problem in north korea. that's where it's having deficits. china. our third largest export market. china the number one source of
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imports to america, cell phones, computers and telecommunications equipment topping our list of imports. all of that resulting in a trade deficit last year of almost $350 billion. so effectively president trump is saying we'll buy a solution with north korea whether it's spending on missiles or mu nitions or continuing with a massive ade deficit th china. the ident is not the first t to make such a barga. he is the first to be so clear and unvarnished in his acknowledgment of exactly what he's doing. the good news is xi jinping signed up with the president to. find a peaceful solution. now the quotation of the evening from pastor robert jeffress. he said when i'm looking for a lead tore sit act negotiating table for a nuclear iran or is intent on destroying isis.
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i couldn't care less about that leader's tone or vocabulary. i want the meanest, toughest son of a gun i can find. president trump calls for the end of the syrian civil war. >> it's time to end this brutal civil war. defeat terrorists, and allow refugees to return home. lou: my next guest warns trump's interference in syria could consume his presidency. these sky dives don't need a plane for a captivatinga plane high-flying adventure. we'll show you their amazing stunt straight ahead in the video. we'll be back with that and much we'll be back with that and much more. stay with us. al pneumonia, it was huge for everybody. she just started to decline rapidly. i was rushed to the hospital... my symptoms were devastating.
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lou: republicans scoring a victory in kansas. president trump tweeted his congratulations to republican ron estes. next week in georgia 32,000 people have already cast ballots in early voting that started monday. he tweeted this about the economy. one by one we are keeping ourec. promises on the border, on energy, jobs, regulations, big changes are happening. tweeting this as well. economic confidence is soaring
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as we unleash the power of private second store job creation and stand up for a senior advisor to three presidents, twice a candidate for the republican presidential nomination, syndicated columnist and great american.. >> a lou dobbs colleagues from younger days..pat. lou: the president says we are not going in to syria.
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you have written you were concerned it has the potential to consume the trump white house. your thoughts tonight. >> we have put one foot into syria with this attack. what i'm afraid of, lou, if he puts a second foot in, we'll be in the middle of a major civil war that will consume his presidency, i war i don't see the end in sight of.end in s i would hope what the president said, that we are not going into syria and what general mattis said, this is a one-off attack, i hope this is a reality.hope ti he will get half your pressure from the neocons and the war hawks in washington. the people who are against him most are happiest about this strike. lou: i share your concerns. but not as i'm reminded in the
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trump white house, not yet.trumh the trump white house is becoming a distraction at least for the national left-wing media. but the bannon, jared, ivanka, reince priebus going on. what do you make of it and how concerned if at all are you? >> i'm a bit concerned for this reason. i read the new york post where>m the president said i love steve but, and i like steve but, but he's got to top taking credit for my strategy and taking credit for my victory. to top he has to stop these internal wars or he's gone. i think that was brutally frank and blunt. gone. it would be a mistake to followh through and what appeared to be
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a threat. bannon is his anchor to windward. he's a populist nationalist america first wing of the coalition. n if he goes, i think the base will be looking hard at who's left behind. lou: these are tricky times here. he could get broadsided. the folks he has relied upon here, they include obviouslyhery most importantly speaker paul ryan. what he did in congress and simply misjudging the voter, misrepresenting the vote any way you look at it. that's malfeasance of a high order and needs to be correctede i don't know what's going to happen with any one of these
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programs give what we have seen from the leadership of the house. and as you say, bannon may be a tough go for the president, butn he is along with a number of other people including steven miller, another senior advisor to the president, these are the people who are the heart andnd soul of the president's spirit he brings to these issues of economic nationalism, populism and not very tone and the lineup" of wall street savants that have been brought in.at ha >> i think that's right. if you take a look at the victoria states that brought him victory. that's where economic patriotism and nationalism. america first. that rallied niece folks. then it provided the president. with the margin of victory that he has.
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if some how bannon left, you are heavy on goldman sachs in the white house. goldman sachs was not the reason donald trump won. with regard to the speaker of the house ryan. my view has sales been you have got the bannon, the conservatives, the economic nationalists and the conservative base of the republican party, they are both wings that you need. if you lose either one, you will be in real trouble. take the president. he has got a problem. i don't know that that healthcare thing is going to go through. apparently that's first in line. and after that you get tax reform. >> he's talking optimistically about both. there are reports that there have been significant progress between the freedom caucus, mark meadows, congressman meadows, and talking about that with the whe house. and whher that's true, we are not going to find out until somebody is ready to take a vote, right?
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>> let's suppose they get through the house. you have got a 3-vote margin there. then it comes back to the house on both sides and vote on the compromise that comes out of conference. it's hanging by a hair. maybe it does get through. lou: it might. >> that's a three-bank shot. lou: but better to have been made, especially after rand paul played a rounds of golf with the president. he has gone from being apecially doubtful fellow to i think a kindred spirit. >> i think he is. good to talk to you, lou. appreciate. please roll the video. a basketful of skydivers taking to the skies in this hot air balloon then doing this.
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a beautiful descent over perris, california. i have been there, skydiving over perris. that perris. not the one in france. it is beautiful. president trump hitting susanau. rice as the house and intel susn committees expands their surveillance into surveillance of the trump team. >> it many such a big story and i'm sure it will continuebi forward. what they did is horrible. lou: chris farrell of judicial watch is here. ay with us.
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on auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. lou: the susan rice unmasking scandal. this is remarkable.
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catherine herridge reporting earlier in the broadcast on carter -- carter page, the former unpaid part-time advisor to part of the trump campaign. he calls everything that's said about him proper began today. what are we dealing with here? >> it's a train wreck. the most important takeaway is you have double confirmation that the obama administration was conducting political espionage using signalswas cond intelligence platforms against trump and trump associates. so with general mike flynn, nows carter page, and you have the wi washington post writing up aner, article that to me was a bigg un nothing.e that t there is no great stunning revelation in the article at all other than the fact that theye i sure as hell were going after
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carter page and generating fisa warrants and doing counter in tell jones against him and general flynn. fisa there is double confirmation and there was surveillance of trump and his associates. lou: double, triple, i don't know what the number of is now. we have every news organization reporting on this. and the senate intelligence committee, the house intelligence committees are expanding their -- theiririntell investigation. it looks like they are committev to getting bottom of this. i just wish we knew of what this was. bottom of >> in my opinion from what i have been able to discern. this is a domestic political intelligence operation run out of the susan rice circle aroundg president obama.
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there are multiple cases ofof tn americans being targeted ande mp unmasked unlawfully. this is very, very damaging. it will be an excruciatingly isy slow process to get to then bottom of this because all the wagons will be circled. no one in the intelligence community will step up and tell the truth on this unless they are compelled by a grand jury or threat of prosecution. lou: if these two committees goh after them and the f.b.i., theyb wouldn't be likely to be talking about threats, they would mean it, would they not? >> i have far greater confidence in the grand jury thanan congressional committees. i want to see criminal prosecution on this. i don't want to see senators and
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congressmen doing season-second sounds bites. i want prosecutions. >> in alphabetical order so they can get their video back to their constituents. we have so much to go back to. we are going to pick it up and c continue the conversation through the week.n get come back as sn as we can get time on your chen and we'll continue the conversation. chris, great to see you. chris farrell, judicial watch. up next, the national left-wing media outraged with white house press secretary sean spicer comparing assad to hitler. where was the outrage when the media compared trump to hitler? we'll take up the hypocrisy wit mike gallagher and mollie hemingway next.
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lou: in our online poll we asked you should the united airlines ceo be fired for the treatment of the passenger dragged off his airplane. 54% of you said yes he should be. the left-wing national media attacking sean spicer after the white house press secretary compared syria's assad and adolph hitler. no doubt a mistake and he expressed a sincere apology. but it wasn't too long ago the national left-wing media was comparing trump to hitler.
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a "washington post" opinion piece. that same no "newsweek" asked, just how similar is donald trump to adolph hitler. the "washington post" ran an article "trump and the slow crawl of hitler's fascism." thew "donald trump not exactly hitler! but his nazi germany comments conceal a dark parallel pattern." mike gallagher and mollie hemingway. where was the backlash around those beauties? mollie: yesterday cnn had a story saying you should never compare anyone or anything to hitler. then i saw three other articlesn cnn has run about how people were making hitler comparisons.
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after 2016 when so many people in the media openly stated donald trump was a bigger threat than hitler, that they would be upset sean spir unartfully made the point that chemical weapons weren't used on the battlefield by hitler. lou: there is nobody, his fiercest critics, nobody thinks he's anti-semitic. we are getting so fed up with this pretend judge rage. lou: and then it becomes a defensiveness on the part of the conservatives when it occurs to them in which they fall in line and simply roll over and say, sorry. but no one says a word about the left. mike: nobody pushes back. lou: i would just say untillmiko
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people can kind some equity and fairness here and expect the eqt same conduct of everyone, what's the point. sa >> we are count rabbit hole. conservative speakers being blocked. i interviewed people who are just this week from the city journal, the lady wrote, the war on cops. heather macdonald. could not finish her speech because she is pro police andpe they blocked the entrances and no one on the right or left should accept this. we have to stand up. lou: the institutions certainly shouldn't. let's turn to united's ceo, carlos munoz. on "good morning america." he's getting his apologies a little more sincere. by next tuesday he will have that down.
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what a mess he made of this. mollie: it couldn't happen to a nicer airline. this. it resonated with many people the indignity of airline travel. they should have hand this very easily by upping how much they were willing to compensateey people for getting additionalsi seats on the plane. they could have offered them more money. plane. instead it will cost them sold much more in how it hit their stock price and how much theyt r will have to pay out to this man and other people on the plane. mike: the federal government regulates how much they can pay out. mollie: they regulate the floor if you are involuntarily bumped. i think it's a poorly writtene l regulation.
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if you want to voluntarily get people out, they can offer more. lou: i love the floor, each time you are ready to take off on ao. flight, somebody with anlou: i l auctioneers voice, someone comes on the p.a.omes it beats the dickens out of this inhuman concept of we are pleadb to tell you, four you have beenn selected at random by random computers to leave the aircraft. mollie: this guy won't fly coach anymore. he will in the front of the plane from now on.n.mollie when you have the ceo apologizing. he's got the lawyers salivating. lou: there is a way to make it smoother, i guess. they can take his salary and give it to the passenger.
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