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this is what a team looks like. this is a great day for republicans. this is a great day for our country, and lou dobbs, you owe it to paul ryan. lou: i have eaten all the crow i'm going to have tonight. i have to say that if this continues at this level, it is delicious. >> we are going to get sick of winning. lou: we are. the president of the united states shows paul ryan how it's done. charlie, let's turn to you. i expect greater magnanimity, if you will. what do you make of the day? it was as the president said, a day when the party came together, i thought. your thoughts? >> i think it many an absolute victory for donald trump and a victory for paul ryan.
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but i also think it' the beginning of a difficult time for republicans. republicans now as usual donald trump's instincts on this were so right on from the beginning when he said the easiest thing for republicans to do would be to step back and let obamacare fail and blame democrats for it. now republicans if it gets through the senate, republicans own obamacare after that. they own federal healthcare after that. and that's going to be a tough thing to defend in future elections. lou: buthat's the wait should be. it should be the responsibility of the party in power that moves legislation and creates law to take responsibility for it. charlie: i wish democrats had the spine to fix the mess they created. but that's expecting too much. lou: i'm glad you are joining
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me in lofty expectations. rachel: charlie is right. the republicans own healthcare, but they will also own something else. the pathway for healthcare is the pathway for tax reform. it's the pathway to jobs and prosperity and it's the pathway to a great reflects mid-terms and the presidential. when people feel good about their families, economically, that's where the sweet spot is. we are about to see pent-up economic energy be unleashed. lou: i'm going to have to interrupt for the introduction of the president of the united states at the u.s.s. intrepid. celebrating the battle of the full sea. there he is. entering the room with the first lady.
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i can't see who is behind him there. but obviously warm applause as he enters the room. and that's mall col many turnbull and his wife behind. they have been in discussions the last half-hour. and the president a very affectionate admirerf australia and australians. and he had to delay his meeting with the prime minister for just a bit. he's been prime minister for just about two years. and the two men we are told have a great chemistry and regard for one another. so let's see where we are. it look like the photo-op is under way. it will be interesting to hear what the president has to say. this is the first time he has been back to new york in 10 days.
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marking the longest period the president has been outside of new york city since he was born. you knew he hadn't been back to the trump tower, his residence for a long time. but not that long. here we go. >> officially launching the first 100 years of the makeshift campaign. i'm andrew zi berks rous. it's my great privilege to welcome the 45th president of the youth, donald trump and his wife melania. the 29th prime minister of australia, malcolm and lucy turnbull.
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[cheers and applause] honored australians and american veterans of the battle of the coral sea. [applause] many distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. the bombing of darwin with its
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loss of 243 lives and the possibility of a subsequent invasion was not an abstract fear to my parents. they listened to the five days of battle in the coral sea with deep anxiety. not knowing if their homes and their lives would soon be in peril. thanks to the heroes gathered here tonight, i was given a peaceful childhood breathing the air of australia in freedom. since those days a grateful australia has not only fought and died alongside americans come what may, but we have proven what freedom, democracy, and the rule of law can produce. a century of unparalleled economic growth, space exploration, medical advances, educational exchanges and trade
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and investment in excess of a trillion dollars. tonight we honor the courage and valor our soldiers. thank you. [applause] to commemorate the fallen and celebrate their victories. le color guard is the u.s. marine from the 6th battalion from brooklyn,ework. this is a great crowd tonight. the american and australian national anthems shall be sung. please rise and remain standing for the national anthem.
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[♪] lou: part of the ceremony leading up to the president's remarks. we don't know to what degree they will be extensive or succinct, but we'll be bringing those to you. colors are being presented. i want to go back to our guests, if i may.
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rachel -- i'm sorry -- rachel campos-duffy is with us and charlie hurt. thank you for staying with us as we await the president's remarks. rachel, i want to turn to you first. this is a president now who is taking the measure i think of his office. he is without question the president. he is projecting command on every issue that is before his office in the nation. doing just an extraordinary job' in dealing with criticism from every square including from within his own party which seems to be abating that within his own party and even to a degree at the margins from the dems. your thoughts. rachel: the more he wins the more people will get behind him and accept his leadership, and frankly on the part of the dems and some of the republicans
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accept his presidency. he's a leader but he has had a rough start. i don't think anyone has been more mistrted or obstructed than this president. he's showing he has an extraordinary sense of learning. he is a quick learner. he's learning on the job. this is as man who came from the business community. government all its weird, arcane rules and all the delays. these are things a ceo isn't used to. people execute. it's a little bit different. lou: i would think he would have the same expectations. we still have to work with 430-some people in the house, and you have to work with the members of the senate. lou: tell that to barack obama. he wouldn't even say hi. charlie, your thoughts.
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charlie: one of the most interesting things about this first 100 days is what he has done in terms of talking to foreign leaders and reestablishing relationships with foreign leaders, and his engagement with a lot of them in areas that have been quite frankly neglected by the previous administration for a very, very long time. what we have found is over the past 8 years, things have gotten a lot worse around the world because of that lack of engagement. because of that lack of strategy that was missing from the obama administration. and now you have got a guy who is genuine think trying -- i'm not saying he hasn't had missteps, by is working his strategy. and he's trying to establish. relationships with these world leaders and try to get things done. and the shock of all shocks is
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that that has actually been so unifying that even democrats have been praising him for some of his actions on the global stage. lou: it's interesting that republicans have come together now. he's also made it through the generosity of his nature. he's bringing people into the white house and whether it's a football team or advice towards on a tour, whether it's media or the republican conference, people are going in and being shown the oval office they have never seen. democrats who were never invited to the oval office under president obama can tell everybody about the grapes and carpet it's a different fella. and he's bringing even the
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people who oppose him, the freedom caucus, for example, even though we learned the tuesday group was moifer an obstacle than the freedom caucus. mark mef dos -- mark meadows ans are perfectly welcome in the white house. rachel: my husband has been in congress over six years and he had never stepped if foot inside the oval office. he had never stepped inside the oval office until now. his democrat colleagues are also being invited. this is win of the most under reported, under. appreciated things about donald trump. he's a people person. we are seeing the difference between a president month is cold and isolated and in his little liberal bubble, and a president who is trying to be the president of america. one of the best the moaments i
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have had since the election was seeing coal miles an hour and seeing trucks on the white house lawn. he's making the people house something that's actually true. it was something that was said in the obama administration. they never reached out. they passed obacarwi no votes, no input. there was a lot of reaching out. but donald trump did reach out to them in this negotiation and he's certainly bringing his team together which is imperative while they have the majority. lou: mark liveries, the ceo of the dow chemical company. this is a man who is a people person. but he's also a man of lofty
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ambitions and extraordinary vision, and isn't afraid to drive forward. it's pretty clear. when he's with people, whether it's the head of unions hound a democratic president never saw the inside of the white house, or whether it is the republican conference members, the freedom caucus. this is a president talking about ideas, he's talking about this vision. he's listening to people, he has listening periods with these folks. that's why they are there, and people said to me that the thing that astounded them about donald trump is that he actually listens. and it's a remarkable quality. we are starting to see this all begin to co-stlels with the shape of his presidency. charlie: when you go back to the beginning of the primaries, the big hit on donald trump is that he's dangerous and doesn't listen to people around him.
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nothing could be more untrue. we saw it throhout primaries. and rachel mentioned it earlier. he's a fast learner. and he's an intense listener. he listens unlike any politician i have ever seen. he thrives being around people. he genuinely loves being around people and feeding off their energy, unlike the previous occupant of the white house. and i think it showed base was completely tone deaf. but, you know, it really is -- it's been fascinating to watch him sort of learn the ropes of governing and learn the roams of what the limits are of what he can do and what he can't do. my biggest concern about the healthcare vote today again is just back to the basic thing, that democrats sat on the sidelines, sat on their hands while it fell to republicans
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alone to clean up the mess they created. that's a very disturbing thing. and i hope they don't get away with it because of the way they played this strategically. it's very possible they do get away with it. rachel: i think he's doing things in very unexpected ways. you mentioned the labor union leader who i think he's perfectly triangulating and stealing away from the democratic base. there was a large gathering of latinos in the white house to celebrate sing o cinco derks de. remember today he did the
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religious liberty executive order, totally appeals to latinos and also the obamacare repeal which killed hispanic small businesses. businesses that had to lay off workers and turn them into part time workers. he's doing things that make a difference. he's not trying to appeal to them emotionally. he's doing things that change people's lives. i tell you what, they care about regulation and care about taxes and they care about what obamacare did to so. small businesses. lou: you are making a terrific point. and he's doing so without engaging in group and identity politics. which is the architecture of the democratic coalition. this is one of the reasons the left in my opinion is so venomous attacking with their
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politics of personal destruction against him and anyone who supports him. they just simply cannot stand the fact that his vision, his agenda, whether it's border security or whether it's waging a war on drugs, creating jobs, all of this is putting the lie to the passive foreign policy of his predecessor into the unproductive destructive in point of fact economic policies that he pursued. the left is screaming because they are look at what is their outline of their bankrupt agenda that has proved daily to have bent wrong path forward. and this president with his agenda is lighting up the future for millions of americans whether they are latino, his
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bank, african-american, it's not outreach. he meant what he said. he's going to lift the lives of every american. gas report thing the democrats. charlie: the thing the democrats have been doing for so long is political racial profiling. they do it shamelessly. if they would stop for a minute and listen to what donald trump says about policies, this healthcare bill today as a pretty conservative guy, i don't like it because it's basically obamacare light, but it's exactly what president obama promised he would give people. and how it is the democrats didn't get on board with that proves all they care is electoral politics. lou: the process is halfway on capitol hill. next up. u.s. senate. we are coming right back. we are awaiting the president's
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lou: we are awaiting president trump speak at the u.s.s. intrepid. we'll be bringing you the president's remas i prise you when he takes the stage.
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isn't that beautiful, on the hudson river, on the west side of manhattan. it's a lovely, lovely sight. and we want to say first if we can go please to rachel campos-duffy and charlie hurt. thank you for being with us. we appreciate as always your insight. rachel, thank you for serving up a light, light meals of crow throughout the experience. rachel: you are welcome. i'll pass your love on to paul. lou: give him a big hug and congratulations. thanks, charlie, thanks, rainfall. joining me now, rnc national committeeman randy evans and lee carter. good to have you here with us as we await the president. rachel was making me eat crow is
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a promised i would. the speak per moved the bill through and the president is talking about a unified party tonight, which is a wonderful thing. lea: that's right. he had a party in the rose garden to celebrate it. i don't think anybody expected it to happen this week. we kept saying it gets kicked down the road, it will never happen. when donald trump came out and said it's going to happen next week, ebb thought no way. lou: when you say everybody. lou: this is a president who is starting to say things, and people understand no matter how radical and unlikely, they are going to happen. it's a real confidence building. randy: winners know how to win. and he's teaching the republicans how to win. they have been out of power and
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they are suddenly coming to grips with the idea that way you win is you keep pushing and pushing. you don't give if you have a setback and pushback. you just keep marching forward. they learned this tt isn't going to accept anything other than a win. lou: i think there is another important meaning in this that i know you are aware of and respect. when you are representing 63 million people who voted for you, and 315 million americans of every size, stripe and persuasion, you have got a special representation the people of the united states. this man is the president. they have got a lovely job.
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paul ryan received only 30,000 vote. the president almost 63 million. lee: i think it's hard for politicians in washington, d.c. to understand they keep their promises. one of the things about president obama has has been so refreshing. he's not saying i'm trying to get 75% approval in the polls. he's saying i'm trying to liver to the american people what i said i would deliver. he saying it might not be popular with everybody, but it's the right thing for our country. lou: it's visible to watch chuck schumer after that display of some of the most awful, ugly moment in senate history as he owed posed the president. i understand the opposition of the democratic party. but he took it to a level of
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combat. and nasty -- he broke every geneva convention there is when it comes to proper treatment of a respected president. >> the president rose above all that. did we hear about a government shutdown this week? not from the president. did we hear about the pass and of the healthcare bill? yes. >> we did hear from the president. he used it as a threat against his own party to say maybe what we need here is a good government shutdown to break the nonsense and the orthodoxy and this ossified attitude that's groin. frankly you were just describing. politicians in the house and senate -- you were used to being elected and promises being forgotten. the great jest surprise i believe on the part of the
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left-wing media, this is a president that made promises and by god whatever you think of him, no matter how much you hate him, or jealous of him, resent his success. he says promises me, promis ke. and he delivered le t american people who voted for him -- that's why 97% of the people who voted for donald trump would vote for them today. he stood by his word and making things happen. a lot of people say he set up paul ryan to fail the first time. he said you do it your way, and now we'll do it my way randy: behind closed doors he's a no more excuses kind of guy. and there is a toughness that really comes through when he
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talks to the whip team or the senators. it is a tough and very direct and very real. which is i'm hired to win. i'm hired to produce. anything else is unacceptable. lee: the democrat are continuing to lose. they didn't learn anything from the election. hillary clinton clearly showed us that this week. there was a losing strategy in hillary clinton's campaign. that was run against donald trump. all the democratic party is running against donald trump. calling him evil. people aren't voting against. they are voting for. people are tired of inaction and obstructionism. they are tired of the whole thing. this is a losing strategy for the democrats. lou: tom perez, the new head of
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the dnc with all of his profanity and vulgarity and his senseless petty attacks without raising even once an idea that represents the new democratic party in which he is the head -- >> it's the incredible shrinking party. are they even relevant at this point on healthcare? are they even relevant? lee: are people drawn to anger? people are not drawn to anger. they are frustrated enough with their lives. they are looking to politicians to solve their problems and couple with answers. not to echo how frustrated the american people already are. they don't have any voice that's reaching the american people who need help right now. lou: i think most americans right now -- we expect this
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president to succeed. he's raised expectations for himself. and i think that for the first time in probably 30 years, the middle class that has watched its wages decline, jobs shrink and the number of americans and citizens within the middle class shrink, i think they are hopeful. i not was barack obama who ran and hope and change. but this president has been talking about creating a reality, creating wealth for all americans. and he takes the trouble to say for all americans. he doesn't talk about one group of americans. one special interest on the part of the constituencies. it's fascinating to see that reflected in consumer confidence or reflected in investor confidence where we are watching markets. the dow jones industrials for crying out loud of 14% since
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it's an extraordinary event. we have to say this. i have been told by my prove dyers, we still don't have a run of shows as the great veterans take the stage to commemorate this moment. the the president will be saying a few words tonight on board intrepid it's located on 46th street on the west side of manhattan. it's a terrific place. if you haven't been to it, i would urge you to do so. you don't have to be a fan of the military, military hardware, giant aircraft carriers. wonderful jets. all of that, it's a terrific place to go and you will love every moment of it. i want to return to lee carter and randy evans. as we are commemorating the
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battle of the coral sea, we are going to hear from a president who has put a strike force into the sea of japan. a show of force. he has not hesited at all, randy, to take the united states into conflict directly firing 59 tomahawk missiles in response to a despot's chemical attack on his own people. it's something that previous presidents couldn't bring himself to do, even though he threatened with redd lines for almost five years. randy: he says what he means and means what he says. to lean over dessert and say, by the way to xi jinping, we just
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launched 58 tomahawk missiles. i just wanted you to know. ways so amazing is the degree the media so micromanages, they forget the big picture. the first phone conversation with prime minister turnbull was cut short over refugees. all of us knew it was ridiculous, and here he is with prime minister turnbull. you will see how close our relationship is with australia. he's building a coalition using vice president pence, secretary tillerson and his own diplomacy with xi jinping on north korea. lou: he's acting unilaterally with the u.s.s. karl vinson. but he is doing so with multi
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lateral engagement. not a member of a coalition and not yet an ally. the president xi jinping and the president have created a relationship as we are watching turnbull and the president shake hands at the conclusion of their bilateral talks earlier. your thoughts? lee: i think we are seeing a true leader. as i have been watching voter reactions since he was elected and even before. his base has been strong. independent and those people who weren't so sure about. when they saw his strengths in syria and see his strength coming together. when they see him bheeng says and saying what he means. they are getting behind him and feeling more and more confident. i'm seeing his numbers bump back up again. this looks like a true statesman. >> it's been weeks.
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and the reason why we have not done so. these polls were not -- with the exception of the "l.a. times" in particular, worked very good, to be honest with you. the tracking polls are not certain of. but i am certain of the straightforward relationship that this president created with what is it, 30 million people on twitter? another 15, 20 million on facebook. he has a direct relationship. he goes to pennsylvania and has a town hall meeting and the rest of the country forgets about a white house press corps dinner where he was suppose to be industrialified and nobody cared because he didn't go there to give it importance, and therefore the people of this country for the most part or those who support him dismissed him. lee: i'm a researcher, that's what i do for a living.
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i don't believe in just using quantitative data. you have to look at what people are saying. in an environment where people are calling trump a fascist. people were emtbiersd say out loud who they were voting for. lou: shame on all of those people. i understand it, but no longer do i put up with it. you are watching a man now who has been in office for three months. three cotton:picking months. that's all. and people are acting like he should be delivering on the basis of a year or two years' experience. first the left-wing media trashes him, then create the highest possible expectations. lee: what we should be look at now are the implicit things.
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do you feel more confident in your future? do you believe you will be better off next year than next year. those numbers are improving. that is in large part because of the president of the united states. that's the what leadership does. leadership inspires confidence. lou: we should be talking about the number of people trekking into the white house to see the president, talking about important ideas, talking about change the orthodoxies about corporate america saying we don't have to outsource those jobs. we can invest part of that $2.5 trillion we have? overseas accounts. we can bring it back at a lower rate for corporate america. we can invest in the country's future. randy: the other thing you don't hear about on the news, the
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number of people who want to see this president succeed versus those who want him to fail. increasingly we see that number grow and grow. you had it on your show last week. they said we want him to succeed. people we never would have thought of before wanting those kinds of things. that momentum starts to build. the moment you want somebody to succeed you become invested in their success. lou: by the way, we saw this with president trump. where there are some people that are so anti-obama that they couldn't imagine him succeeding. but after five years of not succeeding, it became clear the problems were vast. that he was creating rather than solving.
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lee: republicans didn't make president obama evil. the democrats are saying republicans are seefl people. when republicans say things they don't like, they should ban that speech. he is what - angry, nasty fellow. there is such an inner on the part of the left right now, that it is unreasoning. randy: do you trust anger? lou: anger is a natural reflex. randy: i react to it. a country turns angry when it's
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attacked. that's what you are watching. the middle class turns angry when its jobs are stripped from it. when the ideals of the country are ignored and attacked and insulted almost daily. i trust that anger because it's natural and understandable. anger -- it makes you unreasoning. an anger that is reflexive as it is on the part of the left, he don't comprehend at all. lee: i would defiant as hatred. randy: you don't follow anger, you run from anger. this president is positive. he offers a better future and better hope. you are much more willing to follow that hope than anger. you will run from anger as we saw the electorate do in the last election. the electorate were sick and
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tired of being ignored and their problems being at the bottom of the list. lou: you are postulating that makes it too abstract for me because i'm a simple fella. when you talk about working men and women and their families who watched their wages stagnate while the 1% income has risen astronomically, 70% in gain in wealth for the 1%. while the rest of the country was not participating. that should call for a calm objective analysis of why. >> we saw from the polling data that voters concluded the democrats were the party for the rich. lou: what does matter is both party, republicans answer democrats participated in ignoring the interest of the middle class.
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lee: it was the establishment that left them behind. lou: this became a populist elect for the first time in modern history. doing just exactly what the president is about. he's tryg to dra the swamp. the swamp wasn't created in a year, it won't be drained in a year. he's putting law enforcement first. he has the jobs first. he's talking about not shipping jobs overseas. not one president has had that conversation with corporate america. lee: we haven't seen the american people say in a generation that they believe the jobs will stay here. for the first time in a generation people are saying there is hope for us. we can bring jobs back and we are seeing a path forward. all of these actions we are talking about have brought that back to the american people
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randy: one voter said we don't want somebody to go to washington and rearrange the pieces on the table, we want them to kick the table or. law * it's stacked -- lou: it's stacked against us. but there is only one president that put hashtag america first forward for the american people and had the guts to deal with this archaic establishment whether left wing, right wing, republican or democrat, liberal or conservative who would say you can't say america first. that's just not done. this is a world of a one in world government. we'll all be socialist and be stronger together said one candidate. and no one could comprehend what she was talking about because she wasn't speaking to anyone who truly mattered.
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when you are taking my job, you are allowing my wages to stagnate and not applying to participate in this economy. much more coming up. lee carter, randy evans here with me. patiently awaiting that moment. stay with us. we'll be right back.
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lou: we are back. we are talk with randy evans. the prime minister, andrew turn bul is speaking in advance of the president's remarks. we'll be going to the u.s.s. intrepid museum, the aircraft carrier is now just an extraordinary museum. we'll be going there and the president will be talking we are assured in a matter of moments. with us, randy evans and lee carter. let's talk about the judgment that's being made. we are looking at a lot of polling, there is a lot of noise out there. people, i would guess it to be 50-50 right now, don't know where we are going with this
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economy. the 1 percenters are benefiting from an extraordinary rally in the stock market. a tremendous contribution to their personal income. the people working day to day, the middle class, working men and women, they are not participating yet in this newfound direction and explosion of optimism. we are starting to see the indexes move up. we are starting to see some jobs come back. but so many have to follow. where do you think we are in terms of a reliable poll. is there one that you actually pay attention to, a public poll, that gives you a sense of where we are? lee: i never look at just one. i think all polls that are telephone polls are fundamentally flawed. if you look at nationwide polls, it's hard to make a judgment on
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what's going on in this country. it's a combination of that and other things i look at. lou: rupert murdoch stepping to the podium. he will be introducing the president. rupert murdoch. >> one of the few old enough to have been with men who fought with such courage. we are all here on this day because you were there on that day 75 years ago. thanks to you we still have freedom of speech, press, worship and all the rights we cherish. we owe it to especially those who lost their lives. young americans and australian for their potential to the future generations.
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it's figure it the american-australian association with the understanding between our countries is establishing a scholarship for veterans in gratitude for those who served. welcome to the representative from japan. your presence is testament to the healing power of time and the nourishing power of democracy. [applause] these are dangerous times. and we must be in this great carrier is called intrepid. fearless and bold. in our resolve to advance the freedom and the events on our nation's shores, we must also be
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bold and unafraid to think differently in dealing with the challenges we face. the man i'm about to introduce to believes as i do. and importantly all have a debt to

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