tv Cavuto Coast to Coast FOX Business May 17, 2017 12:00pm-2:01pm EDT
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boating officers. you will block illegal shipments of cash, weapons, and drugs. you will battle the scourge of human trafficking, something that people haven't been talking about. one of the big, big plague of the world. not our country only the world. human trafficking. americans will place their trust in your leadership just as they have trusted in generations of coast guard men and women with respect for your skill. with awe at your courage, and with the knowledge that you will always be ready. you are always ready. not only will our citizens trust in your leadership, your commanders will trust you as well. the coast gua is the gold standard in delegated decision-making down to chain command. just as your instructors have at
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the academy, your coast guard commanders will explain their vision, and then they will trust you to get the job done. just like i as your president will also trust you toç get the job done. it's amazing to think of the adventures that are about to begin for you. across the country this month millions of other students are graduating high school, college. many others are wondering, just what am i going to do? they're saying to themselves, what are they going to do. you know what you're going to do many, many students graduating from college right now saying what am i going to do? where am i going to work you? know it. you picked a food one by the way. you picked a beautiful one, a good one. we're really proud to have you, i can tell you. [applause] years from now some of them may
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look back and ask themselves whether they have made the right choice, whether they made the most of the opportunities they have been given. in the coast guard you will face many challenges and many threats but one thing you will never have to face is that question of what will i do? when you look back, you won't doubt. you know exactly how you spent your time saving lives. i look at your admirals, i look at general kelly, i look at some of the great people in service and i want to tell you, they're excited about life. they love what they do. they love the country. they love protecting our country and they love what they do, is that right? good. i didn't think anyone was going to say no. that would have ruined our speech, right? they're great people.
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you always know just what you'll be, the leaders and officers of the united states coast guard. [applause] and when they see your unform, everyone in the world will know exactly what that means. what standard, and really if you think of it, when you talk about the great sailors and the great sailors of the world, we have them. but what stranded sailor doesn't feel relief when those red racing stripes break the horizon? what drifting soul at sea with only a short time left to live doesn't rejoice at the sound of those chopper blades overhead coming back and coming down to rescue them from death? what poison-peddling
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drug-runner, the scourge of our country, doesn't tremble with are fear when the might of the coast guard comes bearing down on them? in each case we know the reason. america's life-saving service is on the way. the coast guard is truly vital to the united states armed forces and truly vital to our great country. [applause] out of the five branches of our armed services it's only the coast guard that has the power to break through 21 feet of rock-solid arctic ice, right? you're the only ones. and i'm proud to say under my administration as you just heard we'll build the first new heavy
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icebreakers the united states has seen in over 40 years. we're going to build many of them. [applause] ee th. the coast guard stands watch at our ports, patrols our waterways and protects our infrastructure. you defend america in a world of massive and very grave threats. soon, some of you will be leading boards of suspicious vessels, searching for the most deadly weapons and detaining criminals to keep our people safe. others of you will work with partners in scores of countries around the globe bringing in the full power of the united states coast guard, right up to those distant shores. and some of those shores are very far away. to secure our borders, from drug
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cartels, human smugglers and terror threats, coast guard cutters, patrol more than 1500 miles below our southern border. a lot of people didn't know that. when enormous pride hits your hearts, you realize that it is with this great skill and tremendous speed our coast guard men and women interdict dangerous criminals and billions and billions of dollars worth of illegal narcotics every single year. your helicopters launch from the decks of world class national security cutters and they chase drug smugs lettersing smugglers far in excess of 50 knots. at high seas and high speeds, our incredible coast guard snipers take aim atmugglers enginesey. time af take out
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the motors on the first shot. they don't like wasting the bullets, right? they actually don't. [applause] your slice through roaring storms and pouring rain and crashing waves is a place where few other people will ever venture. exciting, exciting, but you have to have it in your heart. you have to love it and you love it. in the coast guard you don't run from danger, you chase it. and you are deployed in support of operations in theaters of conflict all around the world, but not only do you defend american security, you also protect american prosperity. it's a mission that goes back to the earliest days of the revenue cutter service, you read about that and studied that.
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today the coast guard helps keep our waters open for americans to do business. it keeps our rivers flowing with commerce. and it keeps our ports churning with american exports. you help billions and billions of dollars of goods to navigate our country every day. you are the only federal presence on our inland waterways. you police the arteries we need to rebuild this country, and to bring prosperity back to our heartland. and we are becoming very, veryç prosperous again. you can see that. think of the glorious mission that awaits. you will secure our harbors, our waterways and our borders. you will partner with our allies to advance our security interests at home and abroad. you will pursue the terrorists, you will stop the drug
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smugglers, and you will seeing to keep out all who would do harm to our country. all who can never ever love our country. together we have the same mission, and your he deinvestigation and dedication -- your devotion and dedication makes me truly proud to be your commander-in-chief. [applause] thank you. i want to take this opportunity to give you some advice. over the course of your life you will find that things are not always fair. you will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted but you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight. [applause] never, ever, ever give up. things will work out just fine.
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look at the way i have been treated lately. [laughter] especially by the media. no politician in history, and i say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly. you can't let them get you down. you can't let the critics and the naysayers get in the way of your dreams. [cheers and applause] i guess that's why i won, thank you. i guess that's why we won. adversity makes you stronger. don't give in, don't back down, and never stop doing what you know is right. nothing worth doing ever, ever, ever came easy, and the more righteous your fight, the more
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opposition that you will face. i have accomplished a tremendous amount of in a very short time as president. jobs are pouring back into our country, a brand new supreme court justice who is going to be fantastic for 45 years. [applause] a historic investment in our military. border crossings, thank you, to our general, are down more than 70% inust a short period of time, a total record by the way by a lot. [applause] we've saved the second amendment. expanded service for our veterans. we are going to take our veterans like they have never been taken care of before. [cheers and applause] i have loosened up the
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strangling environmental chains wrapped around our country and our economy, chains to sight that you couldn't do anything. that jobs were going down. we were losing business. we're loosening it up. we have begun plans and preparations for the border wall which is going along very, very well. we're working on major tax cuts for all. we are going to give you the largest tax cut in history of our country if we get it the way we want it, and we're going to give you major tax reform. [applause] and we're also getting closer and closer, day by day, to great health care for our citizens. [applause] and we are the something the stage right now for many, many more things to come.
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and the people understand what i'm doing. that is the most important thing. i didn't get elected to serve the washington media or the special interests. i got elected to serve the forgotten men and women of our country and that's what i'm doin. [cheers d applause] i will never stop fighting f you and i will never stop fighting for the american people. as you leave this academy to embark on your exciting new voyage, i am heading on a very crucial journey as well. in a few days i will make my trip abroad as president, with the safety, security and interests of the american people as my priority, i will strengthen old friendships and will seek new partners. but partners who also help us, not partners who take and take
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and take. partners who help and partners who help pay for whatever we are doing and all of the good we're doing for them, which is something that a lot of people have not gotten used to and they just can't get used to it. i say, get used to it, folks. i'll ask them to unite for a future of peace and opposition for our peoples and the peoples of the world. first in saudi arabia where i will speak with muslim leaders and challenge them to fight hatred and extremism, and embrace a peaceful future for their faith. and ty'reooki very much forwar to hearing what we, as your representative, we have to say. we have to stop radical islamic terrorism. [applause]
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then in israel i will reaffirm our unbreakable alliance with the jewishç state. in rome, i will talk with pope francis about the contributions of christian teachings to the world. finally i will attend the nato summit in brussels and the g7 in sicily to promote security, prosperity around peace all over the world. i will meet scores of leaders and honor the holiest sites of these three great religions. and everywhere i go i will carry the inspiration i take from each day, from your courage and determination to do whatever is required, save, and protect american lives. and protect american lives. we want security.
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you're going to give us security. [applause] in just one example we see how priceless that gift of life is to the people you touch every day. a few years ago a coast guard helicopter and rescue swimmer took off in the direction of three terrified fishermen who clung to their sinking and burning vessel. that day our coast guard heros did their jobs well. they flew over the sea, despite emendous dange and extended a helping hand at the moment it was most urgently needed. it was very little time left. but that is not the most remarkable part of that story. as one coast guard swimmer put it, you do that stuff all the time. you do it every hour of the day.
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something is happening all the time with the united states coast guard. you do an amazing job. a remarkable thing happened with that rescue, but when you think of it, you do those rescues all the time. there the vietnamese fishing captain grabbed the swimmer's hand and looked at the coast guard rescuer in the eyes and i was asking god to please let me live, i need to see my kids. please god, let me see my kids. then god sent me you. that is what he said. [applause] to every new officer and to every new coast guard member here today, or out protecting life around the world on some of the roughest waters anywhere, you truly are doing god's work. what a greatful heart you
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husband all have. it is with my very grateful heart and america's cheers for the coast guard and america cheers for you often that we wish you good luck. as your commander-in-chief, i thank you, i salute you, and i once again congratulate the coast guard class of 2017. god bless, you, god bless the coast guard, and god bless the united states of america. thank you very much. thank you. [applause] neil: you've been listening to president trump addressing the u.s. coast guard academy in new london, connecticut. this is a popular venue for presidents. many have gone there, some more than once. lyndon johnson, ronald reagan, bill clinton twice, george w. bush, twice. barack obama twice. this president choosing this venue the day after all this
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uproar and what he knew and what he shared and whether or not he was trying to push the fbi director to lighten up on any investigations involving his former national security advisor. he also wanted to say there that reminder to cadets there look, i deal with problems as well. i deal with the media. and he didn't point out though, he will not let anything get in the way of his job and his goals including the tax-cut package he has been working on with congress and the health care rework that republicans have worked on. whether that was supposed to contain the selloff that had been ensuing since we first got word of developments that some called nixonian and watergate-like, some getting ahead of themselves, the market down appreciate hably down 258 points. there are other factors behind this, not least of which concerns for president trump, whether we're looking at a bummer summer as one analyst
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told me earlier today, complete with impeachment hearings and the like. a lot of folks could get ahead of themselves here. suffice it, very few gainers on wall street and a lot of losers. 25, 26 of the components are down and down appreciately. financial stocks leading the way. goldman sachs, morgan stanley take them out of the equation this would be relatively contained selloff but i stress it is not. bond market enjoying a flight to quality here but some of the laggards you can see largely in the financial arena disproportionally weighing on this selloff. the dollar is down again as those eninvestors abroad seem to be weighing what could be a summer of just distractions here in the united states but distractions that the president promises will not get in the way of doing what he wants to do. so how doable is all of this? we have former goldman sachs senior partner peter keirnen, market analyst, christine short, independent women's forum, gillian melcher.
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peter, on those goals still doable and the timeline is still feasible? >> the market is always a battle between sentiment and valuation. right now people are questioning the timetable. i always felt august was ambitious but sometime? the fall was reasonable. we'll see. the market is not great valuing these kinds of delays but it doesn't feel good particularly when e phrase i thought was sort of losing its steam has regained energy, that is neutrality in terms of impact on taxes. that worries me. neil: what if it is pushed back beyond this year? some are saying, christine, the first thing we'll see is people realizing tax cuts maybe don't happen this year? if it is pushed to next year, i can't see it happening next year. maybe that is what the market is fearing but what do you think? >> yeah, i think that is what you're seeing in futures today. it is interesting me it took look, took this long to see
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investors kind of back up a bit and show there are actually risks out there. look at the vix for the last two weeks, we've been seeing it at all-time lows. today we're finally seeing a spike in the fear index. shows investors will not wait around for this already, mnuchin backed up from the august timeline. sort of hopefully by the end of the year. i think the longest this takes more investors expect out of a tax reform package. we know health care reform has to back that up so we have the capital to back that tax cut. neil: they are not giving up on it, julie, but we do know gary cohn and treasury secretary steve mnuchin are on capitol hill as we speak. >> yes. neil: we heard from speaker paul ryan says kind of full team ahead, i'm paraphrasing here with an agenda they still think it is doable, get that sort thing thugh the house, getting it through the senate might be whole another battle. >> absolutely. with the political drama unfolding that further complicates. we're dealing with a president who has done really well, asking
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unilaterally, appoint a supreme court justice, environmental regulation like he said. neil: starts unilaterally but he has to get votes. >> he has to work with otherç people. that is where this is falling apart. this president will be judged more on results he delivers more than any other president. we're seeing imover promising and underdeliverring. this is difficult thing for the gop to rally around. neil: we mentioned about the run-up in the markets prior to, certainly post the election, that this could be the anomaly, this reaction or fears he is in trouble or his agenda is in trouble is overdone, what do you think? >> i hope that is the case. when you see stocks, bonds and the dollar all going down the same time that moons correlations have gone out the window. i actually take some comfort for that. that means everybody in every market saying this doesn't look very pretty. the fact is the market is no good delivering votes of no confidence. they don't really value collusion. they don't parsing through obstruction of justice.
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once the market gets away from that kind of negative sentiment they will turn to more classic valuations. they will look, for example, what astonishing strong collar we have, extrordinary great earnings but revenue growth at 8%. neil: does it justify this market at these levels? >> the people call this priced to perfection, 22, 23 times that fools pretty lofty. neil: even thousand with this beating down today. >> we're down 1%. ts nothing. neil: we're leading with so you can kind humor us with it. >> there have been many days we were down more than that in the past. neil: very true. >> the fact we're in the early innings trying to figure out how dire this is. i take some comfort the fact that everybody is bailing. that tells me we may hit a point of inflection, thats it me we've capitulated. i don't think we're there yet. neil: peter and i were talking in the green room before the
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show, i don't know how you guys feel, equally if not telling factor for the were comments mitch mcconnell said, whatever we he do on tax cuts they better be revenue neutral. that change ad a perception, that you know, president trump famously told the economist, you have to prime the pump. you have to go ahead and goose the economy before you see the revenues for that. and here's the leader of the senate saying no, no, right out the gate these better be revenue neutral, by definition means they're not going to be maybe substantial tax cuts, right? am i interpreting that? >> yeah. you brought up a great point, we had a great earnings season. neil: peter brought up a great point. >> i meant peter. i glanced over -- you bring up great points too, neil. bottom line has grown 13%. that is the be growth number we've seen since 2011. look markets really do trade on earnings, they get bogged down by some of this news.
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it is important to pay attention to fundamentals. back half of the year is looking strong. we're expecting 10% growth. neil: maybe you don't need tax cuts. >> but corporations are kind of banking on these even though we're -- neil: jamie dimon certainly wants, his comments seem to indicate that. >> they want that. they're expecting this. they have been putting into guidance. they're seeing stronger numbers but year ago numbers were not great. i interested to see if corporations or analysts draw down the back half of 2017 because of this. >> it is interesting, revenue neutrality almost creates a math problem you can't solve. if you look what the impact, for instance of lowering the corporate tax rate to 15% that will be 400 billion a year of economic growth has to come from somewhere. i don't see that kind of growth on the horizon of the so if that is the hostage that they're going to take is revenue neutrality in terms of taxes -- neil: you don't subscribe to that. >> i don't think you can do
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anything near 15% corporate tax rates. and anything near some of the individual tax rates we're talking about if we're going to be haded -- held hostage what the cbo determines is revenue neutrality. that doesn't work. neil: by definition it's a tame tax cut. fits attacd to your view and you're worried thatould mean the secret weapon we're talking about here that would help corporations might not. >> i'm actually kind of glad we're bringing this up. i do think cutting government spending is really important. i'm saying this as millenial. tax cuts are great, but if we don't cut spending as i age i will be hit with and he enormous bill colliding into me. that is not reassuring to me as a young voter. neil: i don't find it toot on just shunnable. >> fair enough. i'm i find it in his speech these would be the biggest tax cuts ever if we get what we want but that is a big if. neil: very tough for a unpopular
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president, for the time-being unpopular to deliver the goods. charlie gasparino is in las vegas at this salt conference. charlie, we were sort of texting each other on the notion how doable all there is if you have a president under fire even from his own party some concern he could be damaged goods. we might be overstating that but would that hurt that agenda and push it back? i think anything pushed back to next year ain't happening? >> listen there is half glass empty and glass half filled here. republicans control congress. there is unanimity on need for tax cuts. you do tax cuts, some serious regulatory reform. if you can get that through, republican majority, house and senate, you know markets will come back. the economy will be okay. neil: is that harder? in this environment is that harder? i don't know. here is what we don't know about the political situation in
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washington. how many republicans are throwing in the towel on him right now? you see people waiver. you see john mccain out there talking about this latest -- neil: scope of watergate. >> watergate-like. i don't know. it is very hard to tell. remember what they did, remember when clinton first lewinsky stuff first hit it, was very dire. people thought it was over for clinton and he smartly bought some time and played it out and rode, basically survived. neil: the big difference, the underlying economy was sound. richard nixon wasn't so fortunate in summer of '73. >> no. that is the point, i made that point with you. neil: absolutely. peter, we no for the summer of '73, talk of hearings and watergate hearings, we have a chart of this, drip, drip, it really hit. it didn't help matters any that the macro environment, oil which you alluded to in the past wasn't very supportive. but a president can dodge a lot of trouble if he has got the wind at his back of a good economy. >> rising tide all that since
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we're talking guard. the problem if you look at both nixon and clinton, if you bought stock on the day that they were impeached, you would have done very well. you would have made money because the market knows that once you get on to somebody new, the market is appreciatingtive of the strength of our economy and ability to outlive foibles of whatever -- neil: point of impeachment vote? >> impeachment vote. you know andrew johnson, you and i know we were covering. neil: don't rub it in. >> you also would have seen a gain because the market believes -- neil: you wouldn't let this to be a factor for you? >> i'm not too worried about this. what i would say the market does not parse through these things very carefully. they will have big moves like this that sort of say we're not happy. but long-term they can't hold a vote of no confidence because they can't value it. >> you know, neil, the real question is this, how much of gdp gets, how much of our gdp does not grow, how much of the market gets shaved down if gdp
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doesn't grow based on the corporate tax cuts? that's a big number. the corporate tax cuts should add a significant amount to gdp. if that does not happen, you have to price that into stocks. the question will that happen or not? i think there is still a 50/50 chance it will happen. republicans are looking at themselves right now saying this, neil, we need to save the party. donald trump is crazy. he does some stupid things, but how do we save the party. neil: the party is getting this agenda through. >> that's it. neil: christie, if you had been hearing noise to peter's point around bill clinton and eventual impeachment you would never bought amazon, right? you would have sat it out but look whatç you missed. >> right, interesting think about potential impeachment and how volatile stocks would be on the back of that. maybe they wouldn't. maybe a pence presidency would bring stability. neil: is that what it is doing? >> career politician, maybe he would be more focused and investors would have a little bit of solace in that.
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charles: you knew this was a matter of time. they asked fbi director james comey in open an closed sessions asking for more info from acting director mccabe. no word whether they will follow on that. intelligence committee asked for comey to testify in closed-door hearing. he would prefer it be an open venue. they gave him the option. also, we've got former united states ambassador for special political affairs at the united nations, ambassador stewart holiday. good to have you.
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where do you think this is all going with the president's first trip abroad as president? this will obviously drag behind him everywhere he goes but how big of a deal is this going to be globally, do you think? >> well i think for the countries he is visiting we have these very important relationships with saudi arabia, of course with israel and he will be visiting the pope as well. this was a well-thought out trip in terms of this message of trying to focus on these big civilization issues, focus on islamic extremism and so forth. i think it is not going to overshadow the trip in terms of what these countries seek, what they want, but they have to be concerd about whether the president's hands will be tied, whether he can fulfill his commitments? what will he bring that in effect will be followed through on in coming months if we're distracted like you say a bummer summer? neil: ambassador, maybe you can help me with the history part of
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this, but presidents who are unpopular, do they have a tough time when they go abroad to g7 summit or nato summit where they're all there together? normally i can remember ronald reagan soaring in the polls, more people gravitate to you when you're doing okay. fewer when you're not. i think even of john kennedy after the success and how he handled the cuban missile crisis, totally different reaction to him abroad, particularly in germany and berliner speech. >> right. neil: what do you make of that? >> i think it used to be that presidents would actually go abroad to elevate their stature. you look at richard nixon at height of watergate issue going to egypt. neil: yeah. >> lbj after he announced in the wake of, the vietnam war, you know, turmoil that he was going to travel around the world. in fact he took a trip entirely around"át world, visited many
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countries. i think presidents get a certain amount of sustenance and reaffirmmation in these trips. really it is the opportunity for them to change the channel. the real question if there will be bombshells, sort of real time unfolding? i don't know what the timing of senate intelligence or house intelligence committee hearings are. but if those hearings are hello during the trip that could be very problematic. neil: this is maybe not the direct question to an ambassador to soil himself in political matters but do you think that a number of democrats have been insisting they want hearings, on and on? one republican blasted, you're trying to run out the clock, you're pushing back tax cuts and health care, all about torpedoing the trump agenda and it will work because if you are pushing it back into next year that makes it much tougher for republicans to do? they don't have a lot of wiggle room in the senate. we mentioned earlier on the
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show, senator john mccain, lindsey graham among early critics to say this concerns us. where there is that little wiggle room to get that done on a simple majority, does that imperil the trump agenda period? neil: it could but, i don't think that's why they're doing it. obviously that is incidental benefit for them politically speaking but you have to look back at view of president trump by these people over a long period of time. it has been very consistent. he is not fit for office. he is unpresidential, all of these things. this is very consistent, now they have a little thread to pull on here but i would have said if this opportunity, if the legislative agenda wasn't even on the horizon they would be taking their opportunity to you know, try to take him down as well. i think that is why it is important to look at the center, to look at people, you know he, i guess you could say senator mcconnell is sort of in the
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center, senator mccain and others, look at people who when they start saying things are, the people who are listened to because they're not senator schumer with all due respect who is coming out, wouldn't miss an opportunity to criticize the president. neil: yeah, right now, if you're hanging your hopes on impeachmen really fbi's director word or notes versus what the president said, he said, he said, you will need something more to build that. maybe they have that, maybe in time they get that we're not there yet. ambassador, thanks so much. >> thanks a lot, neil. neil: let's look at what is happening at the corner of wall and broad. a lot of this is on the belief the fear, whether you're republican or democrat, you're losing green and losing the hope of seeing more green in terms of tax savings this year. that has been pushed off. not everyone buys that. speaker paul ryan saying our agenda is still on. we will want to hear from james comey.
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>> never ever, ever, ever give up. things will work out just fine. look at the way i have been treated lately. especially by the media. no politician in history, and i say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly. you can't let them get you down. neil: all right. president not letting an opportunity to speak at the u.s. coast guard academy in new london, connecticut, to remind those in the audience, particularly young graduating cadets, look, i've been having some battles of my own here in the media.
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slamming the media and where it is going from here in this non-stop attack he says. it isn't fair, isn't remotely balanced or even worse than what happened to richard nixon. bill, is he right? >> no, i don't think so. he is in fact right that he has had a lot of negative press but it is the wrong approach to attack the media, to go after them and to bring attention to it. he ought to stick to the facts. he ought to defend himself without getting combative. neil: he was doing that, katie for much of the speech talking about obviously the long tradition of the coast guard and, the history of that fine place beginning with alexander hamilton who founded it, but when he gets into the media attacks he is serving them up to go after him again, isn't he? >> absolutely. i think commencement speeches are the wrong place for politics even if you are being treated unfairly. i think it is unfortunate, the
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president, thcombanneder in chief chose that venue to again make this complaint against the media. look, the president needs to decide if he likes attention, whether it is negative or positive attention, or if he just wants positive attention. if he wants the focus to be on his agenda, he can't keep fueling the fire, going after the media acting like they're going to change. their job is to hold them accountable. they have been unfair, published things that are not true, but for him to continue to get distracted, but fulfilling number of hiring positions in government agencies to stop the leaks is only distraction to the agenda, only hurtful in terms of long-term goals of the white house. neil: bill, one thing i found intriguing president did not forget about that agenda. he used this speech as well to remind folks in the audience there, those watching on tv, hey, i'm still going full steam ahead with the tax cut thing, health care thing, ease up on regulation thing. so i guess for those who were interpreting this as a sign that
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might be stymied, it might very well be, but as he sees it, not. it did little to move the markets one way or the other. they were down and stayed down. what do you make of that? >> he has the responsibility to keep moving forward with his agenda but if he thinks he can counterprogram against the crises or ignore it will go away, that will not work. they need to address the crises fully still doing the job of the president. neil: do you find it, quickly, katie, doing that whole thing, at this point the fbi director's word or memo versus the president? he said, he said kind of thing? critics want to compare this to watergate they will need something more substantive, they don't have it yet? >> i think they will need more evidence. it is right when the oversight committee chairman says if you're goingo cite a memo as solid evidence that the presint of the united states obstructed justice as they're saying, you better produce the misdemeanor mow.
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we haven't seen a physical copy of that. so i think congress is doing their job to defend the white house in substantive way in terms of asking for proof. but in terms of the what the white house can do, i think that they can focus on stopping the leaks that are coming out of their offices because that is really the main problem they're dealing with. neil: guys, thank you both. getting still more breaking news on this a source close to general flynn, former national security advisor are saying that he never spoke to the president about ending or influencing investigations of one way or another. the president, again, the gist of this dust-up with the fbi is that he asked comey to lighten up on general flynn and that is what prompted the memo. he is denying it. the president is denying it. already the senate intelligence committee wants to see comey and the acting fbi director up on capitol hill to speak with them. markets are tanking on this but not all markets. look at flight to quality being
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neil: all right. donald trump did take time today speaking in new london to talk a little bit about his gameplan and that is ahead of his foreign trip that he is still wog ha to get a tax plan done, a heth care plan done, that his agenda hasn't stopped even those who support him at very least it has been stymied or slowed or maybe delayed. former investment banker carl roth to pick through this i'm glad you are coming because jamie dimon are among those at jpmorgan chase he still supports that agenda, and that was taken as vote of faith at least from the financial community. those stocks among those leading on the downside here but what do you make of that? >> i think jamie is a perfect example of somebody who is very savvy and understands that for the financials to continue to grow we need to have economic growth. they certainly need interest rates to continue to rise. on the political side they need things like dodd-frank to maybe
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be pulled back a little bit and something like key provisions of glass-steagall don't get reinstated so we have a big call to break you the banks again. neil: all that stuff you wish for, he wishes for is in peril? >> i don't think it's in peril at this point in time and i think that jamie's vote of confidence certainly is the right thing to do because he understands that somebody like president trump really rewards people who are loyal and sometimes can be quite vindictive to those who are no longer loyal. i think he is putting out that vote of confidence and actually re-upping and doubling down on the fact he thinks that is an opportunity. neil: carol, thank you. breaking news here. we can tell you the dow down 240 points off its worst levels.
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doing their darndest to have that from happening. adam shapiro on the issue. >> reporter: tomorrow is the all-important house ways and means hearing, the first hearing on tax reform at 10:00 a.m., and fox business from a source close to the house ways and means committee obtained the witness list, people who are job creators of several sizes and understand the need for pro-growth tax reform. let me tell you who's testifying. john stevens from at&t, the senior executive vice president and chief financial officer, at&t, 200,000 employees. zackary model the chief alignment officer. 80 employees. he was obama administration appotee to the commerce department. and davis far, chairman and ceo. 80,000 employees, and then steven ratner, a familiar face in washington. he is the chairman of willett
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advisers. fox business has confirmed the witness list for this important meeting. you know, members of the trump administration, republicans on capitol hill continue to work on the agenda despite the headline distractions over former fbi director jim comey and russia. now the moderate republican tuesday group are finishing a meeting right now with treasury secretary steven mnuchin and economic adviser gary cohn, and again, there is the tax hearing tomorrow in the house ways and means committee. house speaker paul ryan says members of congress must push forward because opportunities like tax reform come around once in a generation. >> there's been a lot of reporting lately. i think that requires close examination. let me tell you what i told our members just this morning. we need the facts. it is obvious there are some people out there who want to harm the president. we're going to walk and chew gum at the same time. keep doing our jobs, keep passing our bills, advancing our reforms we were elected to
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advance while we do all the other things within our responsibility. >> reporter: so the chairman of the house ways and means committee kevin brady is still crafting tax reform legislation. sources close to all of this say they're trying to get in sync with the administration. there's a lot to work out. what you hear paul ryan say is that 80% of the legislation crafted but 20% they need to come together, for instance, tax rates. the administration wants 15%. some on capitol hill said maybe 20% corporate tax rate. back to you. neil: you got mitch mcconnell saying whatever you do, it's got to be revenue neutral. a lot of confusion. adam, thank you very much. my friend. adam shapiro. the battle whether this is a legal mess for the president of the united states comes down to his word versus the former fbi director's word there. were only two of them in the private dining room in the white house, and in that room that james comey said the president urged him to lay off,
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essentially general flynn. president said that never happened. it's a he said/he said thing. what's the fallout? for the time being, blake burman on that. >> reporter: remarkable to follow this on this day, essentially there has been silence from the white house as it relates to the fallout. they put out the initial statement last night saying the "new york times" article, the conversation detailed was not a truthful or accurate portrayal. since then, nothing else forward, no direct on camera comments from the president. he hasn't taken to twitter as well. however, just a little while ago, and you probably saw the comments live, the president seemed to allude to all of the negative headlines coming out his way, and he had t another message as it relates to the dia. this was his speech in which he talked about life lessons he's learned. he talked to the graduates of the united states coast guard academy in connecticut and said fight, fight, fight! and took the opportunity to go
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after the media. listen. >> no politician in history, and i say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly. you can't let them get you down. you can't let the critics and the naysayers get in the way of your dreams. adversity makes you stronger. don't give in. don't back down. and never stop doing what you know is right. >> reporter: that speech there, coming in the context of this "new york times" story. up on capitol hill, lawmakers, democrats and republicans alike are asking for these memos to be produced and the top democrat on the senate, chuck schumer, had this message today for president trump. prove it. >> the president says what comey said was wrong. prove it. it's easy to prove.
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as long as there are tapes or transcripts of what happened. >> reporter: as it relates to jim comey, the senate intelligence committee announced that they want a briefing from jim comey, behind closed doors and in public. that request has been officially made as you know. comey was expected to testify behind closed doors this week, that appearance was canceled. neil? neil: blake, when schumer said it's easy to prove as long as there are tapes.e are no tapes, that was the president bluffing and the zinging director comey, there wouldn't be, you know, transcripts or records or writeouts of a private dinner conversation, would there? >> reporter: it is just believed that these two were in the room. i asked the white house press secretary sean spicer about it. keep in mind, there's a couple different events with comey. there was the january 27 dinner, when i asked sean spicer about it whether or not it was just those two in the room. he told me i assume so. the "new york times" article about a february 14
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conversation here at the white house between the two, and we also know that jim comey here at the white house march 24. there's three documented times of jim comey at the white house engaged with president trump. when you talk about tapes, transcripts and the like, you potentially have several instances where it may or may not be the case. neil: yeah, hard to prove either way in that case. all right, blake burman, thank you very much. in the meantime, the stock market selling off on this right from the get-go in the futures and saw this translate early in asian trading and our own markets. 24 of the dow components are down led by the likes of goldman sachs and jpmorgan chase. they are disproportionate share of this sell-off here, but again, as bad as this looks, a little north of a percent, it could be a heck of a lot worse. to nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange on what exactly is driving this move.
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what do you have for us, nicole? >> reporter: there's this feeling obviously the correlation between wall street and washington. they're worried about the trump agenda, health care, tax cuts and all that goes onto pause for the in a moment light of the latest headlines that we've seen as washington now focuses on dealing with the current issues. that being said, i will say the traders are taking this in stride. don't forget the nasdaq hit a record yesterday. many of the stocks have soared since the election, a little breather is absolutely fine for this group. but what happens going forward? that being said, you see the stocks dragging on the dow. you mentioned goldman sachs and jpmorgan financials are getting hit hard. apple, boeing, 3m, also the laggards there. they're accounting for over half of the dow's drop as well. the vix fear gauge which has been somewhat stagnant was at 93 lose.
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1993 lows recently is surgg, 26%. we're seeing everybody running to gold and treasuries just for the safe haven trade and also comparison everybody is looking back to the early 1970s and watergate. you can see there when the dow went from roughly 1050 to 6 and change, a 40% loss over a couple of years, and we're showing that to give you historical perspective but in no way saying that is what's happening now. on the contrary neil, as you talk to the traders, they're saying look, we've seen a very stagnant market. move of half of one percent in 15 days. we haven't seen that since 1969. we're near the record. a breathe ser just fine. it's what happens going forward. for right now, they're taking it in stride. neil: nicole, thank you very much. nicole petallides. republicans have expressed
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concerns about this and whether it could get much more worrisome for donald trump and republicans in the aggregate. john mccain said this has the scope and feel of a watergate, i'm paraphrasing there, but the first republican has raised the possibility of impeachment for donald trump is congressman justin demosh of michigan. donald trump figured in and went back and said that was appalling. anyway, he was saying on the latest report when asked by the hill, a major read of things on capitol hill that if the details in that memo, the comey memo said that that the president was strong arming him to go light on michael flynn, he said that would merit impeachment if that is true, but everybody gets a fair trial, talking about congressman amosh and added
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it's pretty clear that i have more confidence in director comey. a lot of people interpreted that as the first crack in the republican armor against the president of the united states. congressman doug collins is with the house republican conference. he is their vice chair. he's a bigwig. congressman, what do you think about what your colleague was saying there. they have a history of bad blood, i understand. that but seems to be saying there could be there there, and if there is, impeachment isn't a crazy prospect. >> come on. my colleague can say what he wants to say. in this case, my question comes back to different questions. if comey felt like he was strong armed or pressured why didn't he say something then. he's never had a problem in the past few years of being vocal and inserting himself in areas he felt uncomfortable. he felt he had obligation and
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integrity to do that. if he felt undue pressure from the president, why didn't he bring forward to the acting attorney general or the attorney general to say i'm not comfortable here, here's something that's happened they think needs to be addressed. neil: how do we know he didn't, he was just fired, and you're rit about the timing of that, rather curious how this all comes out now, but do you think that it seems to be congressman one guy's word against another, and hard as it is to prove in either case, then you need more, you need more supporting evidence, more cavalier approach as the president has taken. where do you see this going? some of your republican colleagues are worried that at the very least it's going stymie, stall your agenda. you've heard all of that. what do you think of that? >> you have oversight committee in the house asked for the documents. i believe in asking for the documents. i agree with the speaker, let's
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track this, part of congress' row. i serve on the judiciary committee we have direct oversight over the attorney general and the justice department and the fbi. i'm hoping that chairman goodlatte will be a part of the process going forward. there's a lot of hoopla trying to disrupt, if i was the democrats, i would be very upset that everything that you try to do in the past previous administration, that most of the americans didn't like by proof of the election process in the house and the senate, we're getting back to what the american people want, less government involvement, tax reform, health care reform, focused on that agenda. rest of the talking heads they want to take down and make the president be deflective of something else. we're saying we're looking into everything that may have come up in the situation. but we're going waland chew gum at the same time but make sure we're doing a positive agenda for any of my colleagues or anybody else, the best way to be is on offense. we're going to be on offense saying these are the things we promised and follow through on the promise. that's what gets us back on
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track and let's these things go. we'll track them go, investigate them, five different investigations into russia. what we need now is continue to do what we had need do is provide the business relief, the tax reform and make sure our agenda is positive and the american people respond to that. neil: are you troubled, your support not withstanding that very few republicans have come out with boisterous support. you are quite right where speaker ryan said we'll take this where it goes, he has full confidence in president trump, whenever this leads, we'll go. he add we want to hear from director comey, in other words, that he is fully supportive of jason chaffetz efforts and others to have committee hear and the like that could be a huge distraction whether you find them justified or not, and get in the way of that agenda is important to you. >> i think when we look at this all along. i've always been a strong proponent of free-range
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parenting of the government. congress has oversight role in the white house and no matter who's leading on capitol hill, we have the responsibility for oversight. that is part of our job. to simply begin to believe, and my hope is members won't buy into the narrative, we simply become paralyzed. we've been given a generational chance to talk about the things we've been dealing with for seven years, talking about repealing and replacing obamacare, talked about tax reform, talked about regulatory relief which we have done, we continue to get the issues when wee been aomplishing ings, my hope ise'll focus on looking forward do, what we need to do but we're not a binary chose, we can do both at the same time, i encourage democrats across the aisle, and i encourage democrats look, you won't want things to change based on what you ran on. the american people want an agenda that works for them. >> are you worried that this
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does drag on into the summer, colleagues have expressed concern that the president, there's no discipline at the white house, they need order, needs to fire staff, needs to do something, and he doesn't listen to people, he won't take their advice. john sculley, the former apple chairman says he needs a coo, chief operating officer, someone who can instill discipline much as howard baker tried to fill that role. and i'm just wondering, can he? >> i think he can. look at the speech he just gave and talk about overcoming. we're talking about a man who grew up, followed the vision, made that vision happen. we've seen every administration, the differences of getting settled in fast, making sure everything works. getting the transition of the old administration out, the new administration. in that's delayed by the senate because they drug their feet on the cabinet secretary appointments and others.
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we've seen distractions but i can only control what we can control. doing things on capitol hill, move things to the president's desk and encouraging the president to be a part of that, which he has been, by giving input and focus on the things that got him elected. when that happens, they'll always be detractors, people who want to take the president down. we choose to operate -- neil: should he fire some people? especially of a certain age, young age, younger than me, might not recall that he came into the reagan administration as a former senate republican leader to instill discipline and get order back in the reagan white house, and it worked. >> those are the things that the president himself is going to have to look at this. i think he's expressed frustration. we'll see what he does in his decisions, and we'll see. does that need to happen? i think the focus needs to be there and they need to focus on the things that got them there. if they would do, that that's the message that would resonate with the american people. neil: congressman, thank you
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for taking the time. appreciate it. >> neil, always good to see you. >> same here. i'd be remiss and i mentioned this earlier with my guest, just as potentially damaging for investors was the flippant comment last night by mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader who says whatever tax cuts they ultimately come up with better be revenue neutral. now that might make good mathematical sense, you don't want to worsen the deficits, the trigger phrase, they can't be too big, you can't have that big a tax cut. it's not going to be the largest tax cut in american history, by definition, it couldn't be if you don't want to exacerbate the deficits early on. the president saying he told the economist in an interview, i want to prime the pump. he wants to risk going into deficits early to bring the revenue later on. the man in the senate says revenue neutral right away.
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back at that time dominated a huge sell-off that lingered to 1974, ultimately to richard nixon's resignation. we might want to go slow here. this all comes down to director comey and this is coming up from a memo that said the new york times that he wrote after a one-on-one meeting, a dinner with the president of the united states urging him, supposedly to go slow on taking any action against the president's national secury adviser michael flynn. now, again, barring any tapes or anything else that we're not aware of, that's going to be the president's word against him. in richard nixon's case, tapes emerged, that were damning evidence then for richard nixon. what about now? to rebecca heinrichs and former fbi analyst fred fleitz. it's dangerous to use the watergate analogy, they're already using it. but in this case, it would be hard to prove in either
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gentleman's case, wouldn't it? >> i think that's exactly right. you know, neil, i'm suspicious about this memo. if this was so serious, why didn't comey file some type of complaint with the white house or with the justice department? and if he's writing memos on things he was told while in office, i think the senate should ask for copies of memos concerning hillary clinton, why he didn't prosecute the clinton foundation. why he didn't recommend prosecution over the e-mail server. let's get them all to the senate. neil: you have to question the timing of all, this rebecca. he was fired just last week, and lo and behold this leaks out. fuels suspicions that maybe the fbi in general was leak out stuff that would be damaging to donald trump. we won't know. but what are your thoughts on where all of this is going? >> i don't think there's enough there there, you said it's going to be mr. comey's word against the president's at this point, i think the president, rather than constantly
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responding to a lot of the reporting coming out or the reporting that's reliant upon anonymous sourcing, he needs to truly go on the offensive with agenda the this point. you mentioned timing, i think the timing is very interesting that we hathe "washington postpiece thatamout sa that that the president leaked classified information to the russians, h.r. mcmaster, the national security adviser said that was absolutely not true. all of this comes right before the president is set to go on the five-country tour friday, he needs to be focused on that carrying message there, and i think he needs to ignore the noise happening at home at the mainstream media. neil: easier said than done, fred, at this stage. >> the president is going to be away from the american media. he's going to have an opportunity to i think make some significant achievements in foreign policy with israel and with saudi arabia. the president needs this right
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now, and i'm confident with his advisers he's going achieve some of these things. neil: rebeccah, do you see a connection between the media at home and the media abroad? i guess it depends, but it always seems that it's just a magnification of whatever the media is saying about a president in this country. jfk was popular in this country, goes to germany and he was a rock star times ten. ronald reagan never had a wonderful relationship with the media but very popular. the media noted when he traveled abroad, very, very popular. i'm wondering if donald trump isn't hugely popular with the press, that's always been the case, is he going to be spared with a foreign media that has never been a fan of his to begin with? >> exactly right. we have mainstream media unlike in a previous administration which carried the water for the administration's water week have ben rhodes where the media
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repeated everything they wanted. neil: good point. >> the media turning over every single rock, reporting things before they have credible and meaty evidence and that's the situation here and, you know, reporters are sometimes, they can be lazy and report what everybody else reported doing the homework themselves. i think we're going to see that reflected in the international media. i will say this, the president has a powerful message he's been repeating since the campaign trail which is american strength is back and he's going to carry that message, i think, he needs do that in saudi arabia, going to give the speech to the arab world, very different than president obama's apology tour he gave in cairo. he's going to give inspirational but tough talk according to national security adviser mcmaster, that is going to be powerful to get the administration back on message and ignore the media, ignore the noise.
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neil: foreign trips can do that. thank you very much. the dow down 262 points. the only place the money is going is into bonds. a couple of interpretations of that. i don't buy the slowdown argument, the economy is chugging along just fine. just a safe place to park cash. that's not indictment of the economy or recovery as much as it is, got to put the money somewhere, underneath our mattress, the t-bills, bonds will d after this.
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have to pay it back so it will bite your hieny. i think the former because that is how i roll, america. stocks are down amid fears that the administration agenda is stymied slowed, delayed, stopped, whatever words you want to use here. atlanta fed raising second quarter gdp to 1.1%. heather are, you worried that agenda is at best delayed? >> the agenda has not affected markets in a negative way thus far. perhaps is the straw that broke the camel's back, the investigations as well as russia. the markets are saying despite all the debacles tax reform may not get passed. technology as well as financials are leading us lower today. the dow down 269 right now. neil: what if we're missing something here, not that you
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guys are, maybe that i am, that given that gd can p report in excess of 4% or could be, they're always wrong i understand, we might not need tax cuts as badly? always welcome them, always want them, people prefer paying less taxes than more, but that would be good news for the economy and these markets going forward? >> it would, but the markets have been trading because we're anticipating a better tax environment and because we're anticipating regulatory reforms in the administration. don't forget that is why the market is up as far as it is. perhaps ahead of its skis. we're seeing that today. if we see that the vix is dead. volatility is dead. that was the time to buy volatility. neil: interesting. >> i think a number of reasons that the market has still remained steady. it has been the big sister to the little brother who is crazy in washington, because, of those
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reforms that we're looking for. earnings have been good last quarter or two and they are anticipated to continue. the in addition to that a lot of investors purchasing has become passive that means they have been using technologies in order to buyithout looking. that lends itself to more stability for these markets. neil: there are few stocks. the supply has gone down. it doesn't take a whole lot more demand to do that. go ahead, heather. >> you look at atlanta fed, 4% for the second quarter. that is unbelievable. neil: you don't buy it? >> no. first quarter gdp, .7 of a 1%. we blame it on the weather, too hot, too cold now, it is just right. i can't buy a 4% gdp unless we get an enormous up tick in auto sales as well as consumer spending and i don't see that right now. neil: i was looking at this as well. what if hypothetically, i'm not saying it is justified. if this plays out the summer of
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'73 the last time we had a constitutional crisis, i think that is even over the stating things right now, but a summer of hearings and back and forth, how would that go for the markets? >> as it has gone so far. all eyes have been on what has been going on in this administration from the get-go. it has been driving every headline and market has been steadily pumping away in the background and not created any kind of waves. i think if we continue to have, i really think, market has a lot to do with trump and questions you're talking abo, neil. people starting to say, hey, if there is trouble like that, does that mean the agenda is on hold for another year? so there will be a lot of disappointment about tax reform and regulatory reform. neil: heather, interest rates have been coming down. flight to quality may be something else or ominous read,
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they see a slowdown coming, do you? >> flight to quality, flight to safety. the u.s. may be the best place to put your money, you referenced there is nowhere else to go. with a 10-year at 2.24%, 2.23 now today. that is anomic. neil: yeah. >> that is in terms of growth in the economy. not showing inflation. we're not getting wage growth. it could be impact of people really want to buy the u.s. treasury in terms of safety but i think it might be more than that the bond vigilantes may have it right this time, may be telltaling sign that markets may be headed for a correction here, at least a pause, or use this as an excuse to do it. ladies thank you both, very, very much. very good stuff. not a good stuff at corner of wall and broad with the selloff. it is dominated by financials even though 26 of the dow 30 components down. disproportionate selloff with the likes of goldman sachs and jpmorgan chase, bank of america,
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>> we need the facts. it is obvious people out there wan to harm the president. we'll walk and chew gum at the same time. we'll keep doing our jobs passing our bills and do reforms we were elected to pass and while the other things under our responsibility. >> we'll give you the largest tax cut in the history of our country if we get it the way we want it, and we're going to give you major tax reform and we're also getting closer and closer, day by day to great health care for our citizens.
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>> we've been talking about repealing and replacing obamacare. we talked about tax reform. we talked about regulatory relief which we've done. what is amazing we continue to get the kind of issues when we've been accomplishing things. my focus look what we need to do, we're not a binary choice. we don't have to do one or the other. neil: keeping issue they will still have a agenda they continue to pound. adam shapiro is reporting that treasury secretary steve mnuchin and gary cohn who runs the national economic council had a private meeting with the senate finance committee to discuss tax reform. republicans and democrats were at the meeting. still hope they could cobble something together that will have democratic support as well. does this represent a significant turning point despite all the hoopla and attention you heard about this comey dust-up, whether we have a constitutional crisis or another watergate coming? to turning point usa founder,
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charlie kirk, red alert founder, angela morbido. angela, to you, first time i can see that where democrats were and are involved in the tax process. maybe i missed something that seems fairly significant. >> right. well, you know president trump really needs to pull this off. so far his accomplishments as president pretty much stack up to appointing neil gorsuch to the supreme court and getting border crossings to decrease. he started on health care. he started on tax breaks. if he wants to change the story you now he needs to get those through. it's a great sign reaching across the aisle to work with democrats on a tax plan that will give people, especially young people a break. neil: i'm wondering whether that is a since sear effort? i don't doubt a few democrats want to do something on this but the whole party and leadership focused on one hearing after another. it could be a like a watergate summer of '73 what do you think, charlie?
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>> i'm worried about it. look, our yen generation has to pay for all this nonsense. you and i talked about this a lot, neil. who is talking about the debt. we're $20 trillion underwater? who will pay for it? millenials. not to mention student loan debt. economy is getting better. i will say this president trump's accomplishments are lot more than neil gorsuch and border crossings. he has all-star cabinet, gone through massive deregulation, but real change has to happen legislatively. personally i'm pretty worried that we'll have months of hearings about stuff that doesn't pertain to the majority of the population or the population doesn't care about it. when i go to college campuses go to young people, i'm really worried about russia's potential involvement. that is bunch of nonsense. they want to go to work, have a student loan payment plan that works and government working for them. i think the rest is political grandstanding. i hope that could get fixes but under the current trajectory doesn't look like it.
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neil: young voters, angela are not republican not across the board. are they focused on tax cut agenda or regulatory relief? appears on the surface not to be but i could be wrong? >> absolutely. the tax code affects everyone. but the gop will have a branding problem. neil: young people are suspicious you say? >> exactly. look at all people under age 30 in america, identified at republicans at the very end of 2015, 23% of those people have since left the party. they're gone. gop needs to win them back. so, you might think that hearings are nonsense. you might think they're a waste of time. millions of americans don't. that is why we have all the he said versus he sd what was going on in the meeting with the russians because no one else was in the room where it happened. this is happening because people don't trust the government and people don't trust the media. and if we trusted either one of those things, we wouldn't be at this crisis point but right now we're at a breaking point where
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no one knows which side to trust. neil: yeah. >> or which is more common to trust none of them. so president trump needs to start makingood on his promises to restore public trust. we're a generation of scepticses. they're ace lot of work to be done. neil: so you're young and you whine. i'm kidding. great job, both of you i appreciate it. thank you. in the meantime, this is fascinating. you have the powers that be in washington saying get ready for a long, hot, potentially hearing-filled summer but it is quite different when it is ben bernanke, former fed head hinting that. that is called breaking news. the person who did it is liz claman on that after this.
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♪ neil: seems like everyone has had their chance to weigh in on the latest controversies surrounding president trump but when it is the former head of the federal reserve well, you take notice and so did liz claman out there at the salt conference in las vegas where ben bernanke just wrapped up some remarks. what was he saying? liz: i have to tell you, so i was coming from a workout, it was early, it was before the markets opened he began to make the comments. i dodged in here, i sat down,
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the place was jam-packed, we're at the salt conference here in las vegas. by the way eric schmidt is speaking right now of google but i'm telling you he started in a very calm way to say pretty dramatic things, neil. let me get these quotes directly for you. the former head of the federal reserve said there is reasonable concern that fings of jim comey and michael flynn will interfere with president trump's tax and infrastructure agenda. he did not anticipate how the russia situation would have caused this much uncertainty and, he reaches back to november, shortly after the election and said, you know, i saw a couple of things, i thought, maybe this might be different and maybe the trade situation or where donald trump stands on trade might be an issue, he doesn't see that as an issue. he now sees the russia situation precisely what the markets are worried about at the very moment. he also said the markets are very blase how they interpret
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risk until the last second before it is almost too late. i wouldn't put that in context at the moment. yes the dow is down 1 1/3%. he says donald trump is way more moderate on trade. he says that is a good thing. he says the world is doing a lot better, a lot better, but the u.s. banking system is stable. neil, he was quite clear, if not extremely calm when he said it, he does not expect to see tax reform or infrastructure this year. so everyone was on the edge of their seats. neil: so, what he was essentially saying, washington can't walk and chew gum at same time, that famous line, even though speaker paul ryan said, yeah we'll do this and see where this goes with investigations. if jason chaffetz wants to get document and all of that, so be it, it won't get in the way of what we're trying to do on taxes and health care. bernanke sms tsay i have my doubts about that? >> well, you were going in and out. i don't quite have the right
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audio for the moment. but i'll say this, neil. when you have, this is a hedge fund crowd. this is a very wealthy, sort of, don't let the government get involved in what i'm doing kind of crowd and they were jam-packed listening, and precisely to your point, they're concerned but ben bernanke really calmed the crowd by saying, relax about the banking system. we're actually in a good position. he also said, neil, this jumped up at everybody, he does not think glass-steagall, depression era rule should come back for the banks. but as it pertains to president trump, now i can hear you, remember it was george bush who appointed ben bernanke, a republican, but you never heard ben bernanke speak this honestly before, at least i certainly haven't, and he says he believes this russia situation will hold back the important things i know our viewers really want to see. neil: wow. real quickly, the most important
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question of all is charlie gasparino. is he doing any work at all there, anything resome blink work? >> not at all. not at all. he was sitting there with his fannie pack on by the pool, talking to attractive people. i really -- i'm running in sweatpants to hear bernanke. but we're going to have more at 3:00 p.m. eastern on "countdown." he made a lot more news. i'm talking to people here who were pretty stunned by some of these comments. neil: liz claman, looking forward to that a little over an hour from now. to liz's point, markets still skiddish about this, down 271 points. this is sort of a one-day phenomenon, markets are overreacting this is something that pushes back, something these markets have been climbing on since donald trump was elected, like comprehensive tax-cut package, it does not appear to be happening, after this.
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. neil: all right, we're near session lows, we are, closing in on 300-point loss. we're getting more from adam shapiro with the meeting with the senate finance committee, apparently democrats are saying we want to see more of a middle-class tax cut, the administration has to detail more of the bullet points than it hasnd productive tax
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rerm starts with not making it pt of reconciliation vote, they don't want a simple majority to decide this but come up with something big if everyone gets involved. that would require 60 votes in the senate and get the party going. that would get things delayed more. we'll see. trish regan to take it to the next hour. trish: hey there, neil. president trump out swinging saying no politician in history has been treated worse or more unfairly than him by the media. this is the president's first comment since new allegations surfaced he may have asked james comey tend to the investigation into mike flynn. the white house is pushing back saying this is absolutely, positively false, investors, i guess they're not sure what to think. a market off nearly 300 points amid the turmoil, the chaos, the circus act in washington. down 282 on the dow. more on all of it. i'm trish regan, welcome everyone, to "the intelligence report". democrats and the liberal media
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