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ed: fortunately for our country we have a leader who believes there is terrorism and there are bad people in the world and he will do everything he can with hissal lives to root them out. that's a big place from where we have been the last 8 years. lou: that's your nice way of saying the 8 years of president obama were a today tras as trophy and waste because we did not fight for purpose and design for victory against the islamic state and you are right. mike: part of what you have saw, the jubilation in saudi arabia, is this idea that america has reversed the obama policies. we are not interested in courting iran. we are fighting iran. that's the message the sunni arab world wanted to tear because they have been alone. each of these countries has been fending for itself as islamic
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states and others like it pick them off one at a time. now if there is a united front led by the united states with the majority muslim countries, 50 of them or so. then we would be picking the spots, not being on defense only. lou: the president calling for his plan as we have been discussing, his plan for the generals to show how to win to destroy the islamic state. we haven't seen the tempo improve. we haven't seen them rolled up. and we still see the strange policies being pursued that do not support refugees in a zone somewhere safe in their homeland. supported by u.s., western european militaries. it's fall without resolution and
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the president has only been in office four months. but that promise is an important one to keep. ed: i think's making gigantic steps forward. and it will make the tough resolve. this kinds of tragedy is not again. there isn't a parent in the world who can think of their kids going to a concert or shopping center or basketball game and having this happen. lou: you say there isn't a parent. there must be parents who don't think of that. i'm sure they care. but they have dismissed the threat of terrorism so that they -- to the point that they don't regard it as a national imperative on the part of the united states to destroy the anies of civilization and --
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enemies of civilization and western were youture. this president, until he articulates. until president trump said he would actually go after them and destroy them, we heard that from a president before, hadn't we? but that president did nothing. but separates this president from previous presidents is it's clear he means what he says. now the next question is, is there sufficient political will that can be brought up through his leadership in this country to actually get it done? mike rrp it almost seems elementary. but it was grounds break when trump used the word "evil." that's what this is. it's a battle between good and evil. remember how george w. bush was mocked for talking about
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evil-doers and the exk and the . here is president obama -- and i agree with you -- approachiately. >> this is about our civilization. it's just blood lust. it's for nothing other than blood lust. there is no political motive other than conquest. to frame it is even important thing that president trump never did. he never framed it properly. his framing always seemed odd and the results were almost predictable. lou: the president of the united states becomes the first president to ply directly from riyadh to the holyland. he's the first president to orchestrate a half a trillion in deals with saudi arabia or any
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other country. these are extraordinary things he's doing. this is the president who has bent only one as a candidate who set the agenda. none of the other candidates even entered an item on the agenda over the course of the presidential campaign. now he's talk about constructing an arab nato with the purpose of driving out and destroying evil itself which is radical islamic stare terrorists. ed: he performs well on the big stage. going on the world stage, he knew of what he wanted to say, and he said it. i think he's getting a great response in that part of the world, and my sense is he was very disciplined. it was a very important message he laid out there. and to a certain extent this is all part of his learning experience.
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i think he had a monumental trip, and this will add one more entity here. it reinforces the message that there is bad people out there. lou: how often did we see this nap the presidential campaign. he would talk about illegal immigration. and the next thing, kate steinle is murdered in san francisco. he would talk about fair trade and the next thing a report of historically high trade deficit with china. and here he is in the seat of radical islam jihadist terror, and this happens. it's remarkable the coincidences that do occur. nuke * -- mike: the british election
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coming up, this will strengthen the hand of the brexit movement. this being one of the clearest, lieutenant colonel tony shaffer was talking. sovereign control your own borders which the brits have not really had. ed: if you don't control your own borders you will have more incidents like this. britain, the foundation of democracy in the world doesn't want a police state. and to a certain extent, the terrorists know that. the irish terrorism that went on for a long time. now they are seeing it again. there isn't a person who won't wage and say we have to do situate takes to stop this. lou: we are going to take a quick break. we are following the breaking news from the u.k.
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the bbc reported that british police are treating the blast in the manchester arena as a possible terrorist incident. there are fatalities. there are injuries among the 21,000 or something approaching that number in manchester arena at an ariana grande concert. we'll be back with more details in just a moment. and indeed we'll return with more news on this extraordinary day. the president of the united states tonight in israel talking about peace with the palestinians and a future for the entire region. stay with us. more details. we'll be right back.
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but authorities have not called it a bomb, certainly not yet. we'll roll this video, and if you will listen to this dash cam video you can hear what appears to be an explosion. [♪] a lou edmotion i would say. joining me, lieutenant colonel tony shaffer. ambassador james woolsey. the director of the central intelligence agency. we have just gone the our first fatality report. it's been over two hours. we are told by manchester police that at least 19 people have been killed in that blast.
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your reaction first to the fact we don't know at least it hasn't been declared@as such by authorities that this is a terrorist incident. but i think we can use our god-given faculties and come to a reasonable surmise that this is an act of terrorism. >> it would be good to be wrong but the odds look like it is a terrorist attack. lou: this comes, instead of talking about what has been an extraordinarily successful trip for the president in the middle east in riyadh, presiding over what will be a half trillion. $110 billion arms deal with the saudis, this is a deal no one managed a year ago. and the first flight from riyadh
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into the holy land. this doesn't look like an accident in terms of timing, does it? >> no, it doesn't. that's what's interesting, the confluence between this fit is a terrorist attack, and it's highly likely -- the confluence between this and the very rapid and fascinating evolution of president trump toward recognizing that we are at war which we have had a hard time doing certainly for the last 8 years and to some extent before that. when you are at war, you take the gloves off, and we still certainly for the last 8 years did not have the gloves off in dealing with radical islamic terrorism. we were very nice. lou: i pointed out during this
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broadcast, one of the most to me compelling sense of evidence about the lack of seriousness of mind, and passion to bring these evil-doers to justice is the fact that the taliban are taking over afghanistan 16 years later from which we had pushed them within the first year following september 11. we haven't destroyed their poppy fields. tony, as jim point out, this has been a time of war for -- this has been a war that lasted 1 years and we have yet to have our blood up to destroy the enemy ton tone. tony: to your point, lou, we have to have the political will
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to achieve victory. this has been looking in the psychology of our military. fighting to a law is good enough. that's not the answer for the young people month have to go fight. it's not the answer for those who choose to challenge us by prolonging this. i'm sorry, you must be decisive, you must be cruel, you must defeat the enemy. that was a political choice, not a military choice. it's his intention to give the military guidance and support so they can eradicate isis. we have to go two ways militarily as well as psychology, going after the message. one of the things jim and i have been working on is how do we defeat the long-term message. it's important to lay the
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foundation for that and we'll be working hard to find a way to remove from religion as president el-sisi has said we must find a way to remove violence islamic faith. jim: we have to get rid of the idea just because we are oppose to one evil segment of a religion, that we are opposed to the whole religion. there were i'm sure a lot of nice people in the spanish inquisition times that thought it was terrible people were burned at the stake. but there was a subgroup who would burn them at the stake. we are in a war and have been for 16 years and we refuse to answer to it.
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you cannot fight a war and fiddle around with how you are describing it. it's debilitating. lou: what jim woolsey is saying will be a shock to some of the generals advising the president of the united states even tonight. we'll take up that issue as we return as well as updating you on the latest from the tragedy in manchester, u.k. where at least 19 people have been killed in an explosion, and at least 50 injured. we'll be back with more. a live report from manchester is coming up here next. more details when we come back. stay with us. ♪
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fidelity, where smarter investors will always be. lou: fox news senior foreign affairs correspondent gregg palkot is in london with the latest on the explosion in manchester arena, including the number of death and fatalities in what appears to be a terrorist incident. gregg? greg: we are just hearing from the great manchester police department that they are putting the figure at 19 dead at this incident and at least 50 -- we have seen 55 injured. and they are saying definitively
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they are at least look at this and treating this as a terror incident unless otherwise notified. that's the strongest wording we have seen yet. a lot of us at fox were careful not to label this something when weren't sure it was. but the authorities are indicating that what's they think it is. they think it was a terror incident. we are also hearing reports about national counter-terrorism figures here in london, here in the capital a gathering to plot the next move to figure out what happened here, and what we have been reporting and what the eyewitnesses have been talking about. at least one louse massive explosion just outside of the concert arena. there were 21,000 mostly young attendants at this ariana grande
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concert. they were leaving at the time of this explosion, and then there was a stampede it's more than minor jiecials that we initially thought that might have been related to some kind of russia people. it seems to be at the point of the explosion, at the point of the blast. there were serious casualties. there were fatalities. we have been reporting that a bomb and disposal units have been sent to the scene. they have been there for at least an hour or so. and that gave us the background and context for this, and we of course have been talking about the entire city of man classer being on absolute alert, that the hospitals taking in fatalities, and we have been seeing the streams of emergency vehicles going there. it looks have much like the u.k. is facing something that we sadly have been reporting about here on fox from a london and
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from across the continent of mass enoughive terror attacks in paris, nice, brussels, and it looks like the u.k. officials are approaching this in the same vein. these are early figures, the 19 dead and at least 50 injured. these are early e69 mats while the police and emergency attendants there, emergency workers get a grip on the scene which absolutely was a chaotic scene, lou. lou: a chaotic scene. but it seems the authorities are saying this was designed to be a dwiestles some sort that exploded as the concert-goers were leaving the venue. is that a correct inference on my part from what you are saying? gregg:rrl absolutely. we are putting together a little bit of this information, the
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context we know about these incidents. one of the incidents that it personally covered was over in paris where the attackers could not get into the national stadium just outside of paris. so what did they do? they blue their devices just outside the stadium and caused the damage there. for the context of your viewers, next to the arena is one of the main train stations in manchester. it is a public area there it's a box office area. they call it the foyer area. so there is public access and this could be the way the person or people responsible for possibly this terror attack gained access to a large number of people streaming out. what we have heard about is scenes of terror from the people who were leaving, running, and again injuries related to that as well.
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emergency workers at the scene teething multiple casualties across this space, and it was quite a scene of carnage according to some eyewitnesses giving it accounts, lou. lou: we are back with jim woolsey, former cia director. i'm emboldened when you are sit hearing to surmise from the evidence that this is a terrorist attack. it's being treated as one. one can hardly imagine an alternative. jim: there is an old saying the race is not always to the swift, but that's a good way to bet. lou: gregg palkot pointing out this explosion happened while they were exiting. there is no level of viciousness, there is simply
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viciousness, but this is terrorism that is destroying innocent people, maiming others like the boston marathon. jim: and like the ex floating paris discoteque, going after young people, projecting fear in their being able to get together and the sporting event. the terrorists are really quite nasty. lou: and evil. there is no question about that. jim: absolutely. lou: there is another coincidence here. and it maybe something more. march 22, the attempted attack on parliament, perhaps an attempted attack on parliament. that was the last incident. and here we are 22nd of may.
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these things are a coincidence, but it looks like a drum beast violence and terrorism picking up in the u.k. as we go through this list of incidents, they are just getting more frequent. jim: the terrorists pay a lot of attention to symbols. sometimes they go after young people getting together and having a good time. they go after the marathon in boston. that's annually on the date to commemorate the beginning of the american revolution. lexington and concord. they generally look for something that will particularly twist the knife as they push it in your back. and i think that we haven't done nearly as good a job as we
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should in the last 16 years in outthinking them. we have got to get some shrewd people who can get inside their heads and make life miserable for them by what we broadcast and what we say and how we deal with them. we need to focus on not only killing terrorists, but on messing with their minds. i'm not sure we are doing a very good job of that. lou: tony shaffer, are you still there with us? tony: yes, i'm here. lou: unof the things that overwhelms. you saw jim woolsey, the former head of the cia, i can see it register in your face, almost disbelief's been almost 16 years. the money we spent, trillions of
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dollars, the lives we lost in iraq, iran, and frankly around the world, for not acknowledging that sacrifice and that cost, you know, you have to almost label yourself a damn fool. but we have got generals instead who are still at this date who haven't been able to win and destroy the enemy and telling the president of the united states that we have to still in 2017, even though you watched the disasters of the long war doctrine, saying you have got to be sensitive about what you call the enemy. you can't say radical islamist. and you watch the people bleeding in the streets of manchester. our troops, our cia, all of our -- all of those who defend this nation, and how can you not
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say to someone like general h.r. mcmaster who counseled the president not to say radical islamist and a general knows more about semantics than a lina linguist. tony: you had a generation of flag officers brow beaten by the lib rams, by the left, into believing we have be kinder and gentler. that's the way to do it. we'll give them jobs, they will be fine. it's that kind of thinking that's been inculcated in their heads at the academies and war colleges. there are a few officers with courage who speak out and say that's not the case. i have been in the room with
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senior four star generals who say we know radical islam is the issue but i cannot say that outside my office because i'll be pilloried by the left if i do. it's not acceptable, and -- lou: maybe we should be strong mind and principled about truth. jim: there is one man who could make it happy and relaxed for a general or anybody else to call it straight. and to call it by its name, radical islamic terrorism. jihadism. how you want to say it. and that's the president of the united states. if he takes the lead in calling it straight, the next time that issue comes up among the three and four stars you are not nearly as likely for somebody to say i can't say radical islam. somebody might call me an islamaphobe and that would not
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be good. if you can't call it straight, you can't win. louwin.tony: we need people with moral courage to do what's necessary to win. i talked on air and off air, as jim said, you have got to go after the message and make their life miserable. the idea of rewarding bad behavior is not acceptable, and that's what we have done. i was meeting with a congressman today who on his wall outside of his office has all the fallen in this war. it's time to get serious to stop that. to win we have to go at this bothways. we have to make life miserable. we have to take the there out of it and do the military thin lou: straightforward in simple
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terms, this is simple mathematics. we are a nation with $20 trillion in debt. we spent $4 trillion in years pursuing a primitive enemy with limited weapons and technology. and the calculus is very straightforward. if we project ahead, we'll be the ones downtrodden look for water in the middle of a barren environment for our if philosoy and lack of principles and failure to maintain fidelity with our values, this nation, and to understand that the simplest thing, these people mean us harm and there is only one way to respond. and that is to destroy the enemy. we have become such a -- i don't know, the british have a great expression.
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too clever by half. we have a bunch of people almost with the snuff boxes in one hand, and gym smoking jacket. lou: and their hands on their brow talking about the difficulty of getting through. >> the day. i mention h.r. mcmaster very seriously and openly called him out because that is a dangerous, dangerous counsel that he has given the president of the united states. jim: he did write a wonderful book called "call it straight." lou: he served his nation it's a shame to me he would be more interested in semantics than victory. somebody in the general staff has to be more interested in victory. especially of the awesome kind u.s. generals and admirals hold.
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jim: there is an old saying i think from st. thomas aquinas, the devil, the proud spirit cannot endure to be mocked. we have to mock those piddling around with this war. there are lots of ways to make them look clumsy. we need good humorists on our side tony: and we need a general patton. general mcmaster, as much as he wrote a good book. i don't see him being in his element right now. i say that with all due respect to the general.
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a lot of us have been in this war for the last 10 years and we have seen them make mistake after mistake. when is the last time we saw a general fired for being incompetent for failing? we have not seen that. lou: another point, the american people voted for a president who attacked the establishment, the ossified thinking of the military. he said he opposed the war in iraq. he said he would destroy isis. he opposes orthodoxy in business, politics or government. and anyone who would dissuade him from his course, blunt his instincts, they deserve a very special place, and i won't articulate that place.
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thanks so much, jim. we appreciate it. and as well, tony, we appreciate. we are going to turn now who to fox news middle east and terrorism analyst dr. walid faid fair -- dr. walid phares. i want to share a quick anecdote. i brought together a half dozen of the best scholars, arabic scholars and middle eastern scholars and ridge scholars from the middle east in the months following september 11. by the spring of 2002 we talked about what to call the enemy.
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i was annoyed with the president who chose to deliberately delay attacking the enemy and also who refused to name the enemy. his white house was calling it a war on terror and nothing beyond that. these fine mind in two weeks of air on my broadcast decided very clearly and directly and remarkably short time for an academic. and i know you are across dij, walid. the term was radical islamist to crib quieislamist --to describe. now we have a general in the white house leading the national security council advising the president saying radical islamist is offensive, and therefore we should not mention it. i want you if u will, as one of the country's leading experts
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to tell us what you think. >> this is a great question, the greatest one since 9/11. you just mentioned one of your experiences. i will remind you of something both of us remember. we were at a dinner in new york with members of the egyptian parliament. they basically said, if you do not use the actual terminology that with let the public know that you are dealing with jihaddists and islamists, you will simply lose the war. i base my assessment on the speeches made by the president. he went to saudi arabia and riyadh. he used the terminology. i think between congress and the administration, they have a way to alert the american public that we are dealing with an ideology.
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if you want to deal with an ideology and identify it, you have to say what it is. it's not just calling it jihadist islamist. you have to say what they want, so the public who is our first line of defense, when they hear this terminology they will deal with the jihadist. lou: radical islamist. serviceable terminology to call out our enemy? >> i would say radical islamist. islamists already wants the caliphate. but they are not all engaged in violence. so radical islamist orgy haddi t is the same.
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lou: i'm so thrilled this man decided to run for president. he could have done other things with his time that would have taken far less of his stomach lining and his patience, no matter how strong he is, and he's plenty strong. the insults and nastiness from the left. the expression tonight, that they, the islamic state so fear this president with what he's achieved in three days in israel and two days in saudi arabia, one day in israel, three days in the ridge, i think they are -- in the region, they are so afraid of him they don't know what they could do. and this was the best they could do to take attention away from an immensely successful period of negotiation and success on the part of this president in so
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many ways, in such short order. >> this is very sophisticated thinking. i was about to venture there. but you went ahead of me. if i am in the war room of the jihadists and i see the u.s. president is changing history. not just by the use of narrative that he's done here in america. but going to the region, addressing from saudi arabia 50 awill be and muslim leaders and telling them you need to crush the jihadists, you need to do more, the next day an army of 34,000 troops is announced by this coalition. obviously you have to respond. the way to respond is in the weakest area of the west which would be in civil society. bataclan and now manchester. your analysis may well be true. lou: occasionally i get lucky when i take time to think. but not always certainly. i want to have join us now a man
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who get lucky with a high percentage of his thoughts, and that is ambassador john bolton. former ambassador of the united nations. fox news contributor. this president actually said god bless america in riyadh at the end of this speech. he is a man who said he want to send the evil-doers to hell. and none of this language was objected to by any of those in the audience when he gave that critically important speech in saudi arabia. i happen to be one of those whose heightened expectations for what can be achieved, whether it be a nato among the arab state, whether it be a new order, in the coalition, if you will, to fight radical islamists. i think all of it has possibility, and the pictures we
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are looking at tells you how terrified the terrorists are this president and his ideas. john: if we learned anything in the short time of his presidency, the will to fight the terrorists and the understanding it's an ideology we are oh posing are critical. our former president didn't have the will or the understanding. no wonder we were self-limiting in what we did. we were afraid of the phraseology we used to describe what the terrorists were doing. it's been absolutely incredible. i think the fact that he speaks the truth about this threat in an assembly of arab leaders likes he did in saudi arabia is incredibly important so people know the president of the united states understands what the threat is. that gives enormous courage to the people in the region who should be on our side. i think now have a much better
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reason to be on our side. lou: i think so exactly. m, your views here. what is the appropriate response for the u.k., their government. what is the appropriate response now against the islamic state? are the generals going to be told to advance your thinking and advance your address against the enemy? >> i think it longer time goes on when the islamic state isn't brought to it's ins, the greater the opportunity to continue to recruit and train terrorists. we don't know what the cause of this particular attack in man classer was. i note and hesitate to say this even given our last discussion, man classer has one of the highest islamist patch laightss of any city in england.
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it's second or third. larger than paris and france. most muslims in the united kingdom come from the subcouldn't in the. it's possible it's pakistani in origin it's possible it's isis. but even given th president's performance in saudi arabia, this is still a global threat. it highlights why the timid response we have seen the past 8 years has put us in such a defensive position. as one of your guests was saying earlier, it's only 15 years since 9/11. it's like we have forgotten how bad that was. like so many, we lost too many people in new york city and friends whose names were
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inscribed on bombs being dropped by our military over targets in afghanistan. it seemed to me it took forever for us to do that it was on truly a matter of weeks. we just learned the police are now and their authorities are investigating the likelihood we are told that it was a suicide bomber. we are also told another device has been found at manchester arena, and they have checked it out, and as i understand it, that has been confirmed to not be a bomb. is that correct? okay. they had to controlled explosion just to make sure. it's always good to trust but verify, especially with explosives. your thoughts, jim?
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where are we head? it seems we have the best possible leader we could have in the evil office to carry out this war. jim: the first thing we need to do is destroy isis and do it in a way that hugh mill a yates the members of isis in their quest for a caliphate. the caliphate is essentially a growing small empire as it gets larger and larger. a the theea theocratic empire. we have to owe bit rate that. lou: the president is recognizing that and saying we need to work -- we must have the awill be muslim nations take responsibility for destroying the cancer that exists within their society.
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and in some measure their religion. jim: generally speaking here, we are the forward observers, we are the trainers, we are the specialists in certain kinds of artillery. but we are not from the main front line. i think that the next thing is that we really do have to get inside their heads. we have to begin the side their organizations. we have to spy on them. lou: if we have not done that in 16 years, what are we to do with that? it seems to me that what president obama is proposing -- and i would like to know what email of you thinks -- we haven't been very good at throng war. we haven't been good at understanding the enemy to the point we could forestall his efforts to kiss and destroy us. so let our friends in the arab
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states take on the role that is properly theirs. morally in the most emphatic way. gym they can do a lot particularly going to war with them. but we have to undermine their staying power in the 30 to 40 countries of the world where there are islamist terrorist groups and organization of different kinds. i think the heart of that probably first and foremost has to be those sponsored by iran. lou: tony shaffer? i'm told tony is gone. walid? walid: following the great discussion, i would say three things. number one is to dismantle the actual physical caliphate in iraq and syria. a piece of it is at the edge of lebanon and libya and beyond. second we have to dismantle
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basically the network that is behind the caliphate. this is the intelligence network which can recreate the caliphate. and thirdly, very important. we have to dismantle the ideology. so we need to wage that confrontation at three levels. it has to be led with us by our new allies in the arab world. the president going to meet with nato leaders soon, america, the arab world, and europe. lou: ambassador bolton? john: i would add this it's time to give up the illusion of nation building as a response to radical islamic terrorism. i think the physical defeat of the terrorists has to take the top priority. you have to do it through an ideological prism. but let's get past the idea building schools and hospitals
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is going to wane people away from -- wean people away from terrorism. it does not. they have to be physically defeated. and we do need the islamic states to do it. let them build their own nations. lou: andrew peak, former army intelligence officer. have we gotten too fancy fan forgotten how to fight the american way? andrew: no i don't think we have gotten too fancy. i served with general mcmaster in afghanistan and know him pretty well and he gets this issue. the issue of radical islam,. lou: if he guilt, why doesn't he want to name the enemy? he's in a different role than leading a force in afghanistan. andrew: the argument would be,
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you can take all the steps necessary to treat the enemy as radical islamic terrorists and link it to radical islam. you can take all of those steps without coming out in saudi arabia or elsewhere saying radical islam is the problem and you have need to look inside yourselves to do that. we don't know they haven't done that privately. you can get all of the benefits of a policy that focuses about radical islam without incurring the costs of shouting it in their faces. jim: if you talk about is lambists, you are talking aboutn people who want a caliphate. they are adhering to violence.
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lou: the idea there are a caliphate is a necessary casualty and target. to destroy this enemy, we cannot play any more games, we don't have time to put 4 trillion dollars over 16 years, we don't have money or time. we're destroying ourselves by the way in which we're responding to a clear threat. if we're going to -- you know something darwinian about people who with all that america has become would throw
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away our young lives, a great potential of this country's future. think about how important those young men and women are to the future that we lost. we don't top do we have been fools, fools in veet vietnam as mcmaster notessed. who were lessons? destroy the enemy with as much force as you can. >> i think correct. that makes sense. i think only issue, what about the people who believe in a caliphate, but are not violent? do you kill them? or do something to them to change their ideas that is where -- -- >> we have a soldier, in the field, i would love to worry what you say waleed, a soldier, with a m16 in his
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hands, i am very leary of people who try to turn that soldier into an agent of change for a people in a far away land they don't fully understand. if i want that kind of thinking about on, i think i would turn first to the cia. but waleed your thoughts? >> very quickly, i think that debate has been more refined as we understand the terminology much better. we'll have a consensus soon. like during the cold war, you telecom -- tell the commoners they are wrong in their view, t you have to explain. yes today there are those who do not engage in violence but believe it is legitimate, you have to ib plain i explain it to them. lou: thank you so much.
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