that means that's the death of vat. lou: be with you us tomorrow. senator david perdue joins us. ken report horrific attack on a concert full of children and their parents. we'll have the latest on the manchester bombing. with the busy memorial day weekend just days away. how can you protect yourself. tim carney crunches the numbers on who are the biggest winners and losers. freedom is sacred. there is no greater display of freedom than an american pop superstar singing at the top of her lungs to a crowd arena full of preteen girls.

this was not indiscriminate killing. it was very deliberate. some disgrace of a human meat sack found the highest concentration of women. the pop singer is devastated to be the mag tha -- to be the magh oror. the president -- such horror. the president was right when he described terrorists in the these terms. i will call them from now on losers. because that's what they are, they are losers. kennedy: 60s sociopathic --

sick sociopath i can bastards. some had the night of their life which turned out to be their last. i'm kennedy. police identified the attacker as a 22-year-old brit of libyan descent. experts say he planned it that way to create maximum cas carna. i was reading from an mi-6 former official who said this was a more sophisticated attack than they have seen recently in the u.k.

was this coordinated with isis? >> one is isis inspired and isis does claim that on its own. someone can act out and say they are essentially a member of the virtual caliphate. there was a remote controlled attack where the islamic state will get specific directions in their home country about how they should go about the surveillance and plotting. isis operative. we don't yet know thought it' most likely this is an individual who probably radicalized on his own. in terms of the investigation, a lot of it has to do with the sophistication of the device. kennedy: not dissimilar to the device used at the boston marathon. although given the level of casualties here people are

concerned there will be a broader cell at work that will help this individual construct this. an could have gone the the knowledge online. kennedy: how do you get something like that into an arena like that. is part of the postmortem look at the security arena? >> the point where you have first contact with security can in fact be a place where a successful attack will occur. once you set up your barricade and say this is where we are going to start checking people and look for weapons. if you create a queue, there is a long line of people. kennedy: american airports have a long line of people waiting to get through tsa. >> as long as you are dealing with choke points they look at that as a target rich environment. this individual chose the end of the concert.

clearly because that's when you have a predictability of congestion. kennedy: the artery of the arena itself and the tube it's an active train, and a lot of places including barclay center in brooklyn, new york, with it's a big transportation hub. you have people leaving a venue going into the subway at the same time. is that part of the sophistication? >> it could be somebody in contact with an isis handler online. kennedy: more forethought on what we consider with lone wolves. >> with lone wolves you are oftentimes dealing with individuals who aren't very adept at what they are trying to do. so you have had many attacks with low or no casualties.

i worked as part of the nypd terrorism division. here is an instance where somebody had a better sense of the timing and a better sense of bomb con truck and chose among the softest of soft targets. so they will be looking for additional individuals who are part of that bomb process. there will be a digital fingerprint. there always is. that will give us information how connected he might have been. he could have done a lot of this on his own. there was someone connected to isis directing him into this. kennedy: are they focusing on so many suspects it's impossible to narrow it down to people who are

about to commit acts of terrorism? >> there is a difficult process of allocating your resources among the diverse array of individual who may be saying things that would concern any normal human being. they may be rooting against the anti-isis coalition. that's not actionable. certainly not in this country and the european partners as well. so they have to take a step that would cross over into illegality. people who may be returning back from a country, and bordering syria, you have to allocate resources that are finite. the security services have to say, this our primary threat. kennedy: after the attack, ariana grande echoed what a lot of people were thinking. she tweeted.

broken from the bottom of my heart. i'm so sorry, i don't have words. more do we. -- northbound d -- nor do we. welcome, everyone. let's talk about this a little bit. you can react to what buck said and obviously it may force us to change how we look at some of these big events in this country. are you surprised something like that hasn't happened here? >> i kind of am because of the shock factor of hitting a venue like this is so extreme. there is no such thing as a good terrorist target. but deliberately targeting a venue where young girls will be

gathered is monstrous and cowardly. you can't make every public venue in the western world a bunker. so you have to try to kill as' of these peopleover seas as you can and over time discredit this hateful ideology. kennedy: it's pretty unbelievable. but sitting here going over the news reports. it's getting hard to keep track of all the thing that happened in europe. the bataclan theater. 90 people were killed at the eagles of death metal show. >> i'm surprised we are not tired of it yet. i go on twitter and all night long i have been discussing this. i see a lot of people say well the terrorists win if. then we put our flags up on our

facebook pages. we go about our business. let's not let them interest fire. then more people die. first thing i believe is political correctness needs to be thrown out. this guy was known to law enforcement authorities. why wasn't he looked into deeper. i believe it's because they don't want to offend people. there is a certain community -- this guy didn't come up with this overnight. this should have been looked into. if they need to go into mosques and see where this stuff is being put in cauldron and cooked up, so be it. kennedy: there are people who point out a lot more people die of car crashes. should we change the way we cover them? >> i don't like saying the names

of these people, a lot of them do it because they want to be hero to the sick ideology. i am tired of it. and i'm not going to go so far as to speculate why these people aren't followed up on. but that's my chief complaint. we look at cases going back to san bernardino. they are constantly on f.b.i. lists and under surveillance. and somehow they fall through the cracks. so we are doing something right on the front end and something terribly wrong on the back end. kennedy: ask judge napolitano said we are look after too' people in mass surveillance. this is what happens when you have too many dolphins in the crack pot. president trump had strong word for militants branding them as

you saw earlier as evil losers. he long vowed to defeat isis and he urged the pentagon to annihilate them on the battlefield so they don't escape and return home. will the president's strategy work? i like what the president had to say in saudi arabia about radical islam, though he didn't use the phrase, i thought that would have been a bold move. i think he's right to put it in there court. how can you do that. without the u.s. spending so much money and sacrificing lives of brave warriors, so go out there to preserve freedom. how do you defeat it? >> i think it has to be multi faceted. part of it is going in on the ground and killing people abroad and destroying the so-called caliphate. it helps the cause when it has

the prestige on the battlefield. but it's a broader ideology, and a lot of these attacks in france and england. they are not people coming from overseas, they are homegrown extremists attracted to this ideology and defeating this ideology will be a generational evident. kennedy: the president has proposed through executive order the travel ban. but a lot of the people who are the most radical and murderous are the ones born in the u.k. and belgium or go there as young children. they are not terrorists who sneak in and come over with syrian passports. >> i'm going to say a dirty, filthy word here. profiling. it works. for some reason when you apply

it to radical islam, it's the filthiest thing you can say. we can narrow down the scope of these investigations if we profile it down to who are doing these horrible acts and investigate that. why look at that whole little pot of crabs. >> if i can jump in here. there is two types of profiling we do. criminal profiling. and racial profiling, discrimination, unconstitutional and a big problem. so what you are proposing makes complete sense. if and when we make a distinction between effective criminal profiling on a reasonable suspicion someone has a criminal propensity as oppose to being profiled based on the color of their skin or their religion. they can b -- can be

distinguishable. kennedy: i have friend who are profiled in airports. >> a well-informed, well-trained investigator knows the difference between criminal profiling. kennedy: i think you are making the case for privatizing the tsa. some of these employees do not reach that level of intellect. the panel returns later. but first up, president trump's budget proposal revealed today. does the plan help blue collar workers who helped put him in the oval office? tim carney breaks it down next.

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kennedy: donald trump road a populist wave all the way to the white house. but some think today's budget takes direct aim at the people who put him into office.

>> the folks out there who are on food stamps and wants to work, we'll be able to work with them to solve the problem. they are not causing the difficulties. it's the folks on there who don't want to work. kennedy: democrats are saying this is the latest in a long line of trump betrayals. >> the great irony is it hurts many of the people who supported him in the campaign. there is no clearer example of this irony than his budget. when you add it up, it's comic book villain bad. kennedy: who are the winners and losers under the president's new plan? tim carney, welcome back. let's talk about the reduction

in snap, the food stamp program that ballooned under obama. the recession had a great deal of impact. what does a 25% curtailing mean for lower income people in this country? >> it brings us back to where we were in say 2007. i don't have the exact year. but we are going back, not to the stoneages or a time in history when people were starving on the streets. it's a level of spending that we are good with but a few years later it has to be much higher. the hope from the trump administration is this will be bringing the program back to its purpose, that when you have a single mom and she needs to feed her family, that she is getting help to feet her family and it's

not keeping somebody from going back to work. i have my food food stamps. can the federal government mike that distinction without driving off people who need it or keeping on people who don't? i'm not sure. kennedy: of course when ther president clinton reformed welfare he was widely applauded by the left. how different is this reform in budget cutting from president clinton's 1990s work fair? >> we don't have a framework for how the reform is going to happen. it returned things back to a state level. different states had -- it's a different sort of a rural poverty you have might get in one place and an urban poverty in another state, or it might have to do with cyclical changes.

and another virtue of federalism is more experiments. right now what they are talking about is it's not that sort of federalism in this regard. in this regard it's more a question of the federal government is going to cut back on wasteful spend. and that's something where i lack the con any dense. one of the' arguments against putting the programs in the federal hands, it's hard for a bureaucrat to tell the difference between who nieftds and the person you made the program for and on the other hand the sort of person it may be hurting by keeping them from returning to work. kennedy: that's the problem of the safety net and too much government. sometimes the people who need it most are the last to get it when you make the program so much bigger. i want to shift gears and talk about some of the cuts to agriculture.

this is something republicans don't do a great job of explaining this is a business government sluntd been in the first place. >> this is direct corporate welfare where money is taken from taxpayers and goes farmers. some of it goes to family farmers. but most it goes into the hands of corporate farmers who don't need the money. and it distorts prices. it can change what people are planting. so what we have got, state by state would and reasonable way to look at it. it's something that was more in the skinny budget than this budget. you can see mick mulvaney's hands on this. he said this is not properly a federal role. to say washington shouldn't be

in something, doesn't mean it's something states shouldn't do. people guide food and there is tins for the ups and downs. and it's distorted. kennedy: that that's what happened in places like venezuela. last night's terror attack in england comes a few days before an upcoming holiday weekend in the u.s. do we need to be on high alert? we'll discuss next. es? what did you have in mind? i don't know. $4.95 per trade? uhhh. and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we're not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering? what's with all the questions? ask your broker if they're offering $4.95 online equity trades and a satisfaction guarantee. if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab.

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kennedy: security is being beefed up as memorial day weekend marks the official start of summer. police will undoubtedly have their hands full where people are on edge after a man drove through times square. but how will they keep us safe and what can we do to help. a counterterrorism professor at liberty universities. ryan mor morrow is back. jnmd and boston p.d. are

stepping up their efforts. what changed should we expect? >> i think you will see public shows of force. it's to reassure the public, the economic activity can continue. seeing that presence, and for an operative who wants to have maximum impact, it may deter them for a little while. we have ramadan coming up. kennedy: i think a lot of people assume ramadan is a high holiday in islam that takes place over a number of days, and because of that, the faithful would be less likely radical islamists, less likely to perpetrate an attack, but you are saying the risk goes up. >> it's the opposite. islamists, and especially isis.

they preach that during ramadan, you are under 10 times the obligation to engage in violent jihad. if you die doing so the reward is 10 times greater. so those people thinking of carrying out an attack, they would wait until the time period of recall dan because they are incredibly selfish. they are saying i can get 10 times as many if i do it during ramadan. >> does the success of the manchester attack. the fact that it's such a high profile attack. are we at a higher risk right now? and what should people do? >> i would say if you are nervous to be a patriotic act, go about your life. i don't want to have our economy hurt and reward the terrorists,

given the terror they seek. if you are nervous and concerned about this issue. you have being present at these events helps protect other people because you are not complacent. but it's very important that we don't give in to the terrorists. kennedy: more concealed carry? >> sure. especially as the threat continues to grow. when you talk to counterterrorism personnel, everyone agrees this is continuing to growth over and over. the future looks more and more like this. one of the things we can do. and trump hinltsd at this. call them losers. we are wage taken ideological war. i'm not saying trump had a lot of an political thought behind calling them losers. when they succeed.

that's allah's blessing. we need to do a better job of saying we are kicking your ass. kennedy: ryan, thank you so as much, i appreciate your time. attacks in manchester brought out the worst in social media users. but we also got a rare chance to see the positive impact social media can have with many people using twitter hashtags to find out information in real-time about their kids, and rooms in manchester for people who needed a place to sleep. is social media a blessing or a curse in situations like this? eboni, what do you focus on most? do you look at the social media signs that were missed or do you

look at the people who reached out and helped each other and showed the most decent side of humanity. >> i appreciate the decency, but it doesn't outway the price tag we pay around social media's role in helping peoplegrove this ideology and the price is too high. kennedy: are some of these social media sites too loosey goosy with terrorists. they can kick off somebody like isis, but it's okay if you long to isis. >> these venues are being used for terrorists who get together, plan things. something has to be done about it. if we are going to take people off like to milo or gavin mcinnis.

who is exercising freedom of speech and who is doing things that can harm people. kennedy: law enforcement will say sometimes that's the best roadmap to the worst people. they want as much ex piece our as possible and that's why they use social media so effectively. >> if i were running one of these social media platforms and it was being used for propagandizing by extremists. they would have to make a case why it should be shut down. but in a case like this it will be the worst of people and the best of people. that's the world we live in. everyone has a platform and you will see the best in human

nature. kennedy: the fact that parents circling the venue who couldn't find their kids. the trains and trams had been shut down and that was the fastest way for them to find people. for that, it's an absolute blessing. but it is a double-edged sword. thanks so much for being here. i know it's a heavy night. but great great discussion. the president's first overseas trip overshadowshadowed by the r attack in britain.

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kennedy: helene welcome back. president trump arrived in the middle east with the third stop of his first foreign trip. and so far it's gone off pretty well. he gave a well-received speech on terror in saudi arabia and became the first sitting president to visit the wailing wall in jerusalem. the terror attack in the u.k. changed the tenor of the trip. so what can we expect next? joining me now is the co-host of

"fox and friends." let's talk about this. how does manchester change the rest of the president? >> how phenomenal a time are we living in when you go to saudi arabia and israel and you are worried about your trip to the vatican. saudi arabia i got it. israel. now the vatican i'm worried. we have a history. which is true. for the most part it's interesting, but when he scripted this trip he knew a muslim stop, a jewish stop, a christian stop. in between there was a muslim extremist attack on anybody that isn't them. so they killed children, they terrorized people, a western i that happens to be a major ally of ours wonders when the next attack is coming. i don't see a change in the tone much.

terror existed before. christians were being tortured before. >> i think it gives him an opportunity to point to his speech in saudi arabia. he says you have to get a handle on it. you can't just look to the west and say it's your fault and youific it. i appreciated a lot of the things he had to say and it echoed what a lot of the people are feeling. if you contrast some of his past statements on islam, there was a marked difference. but a better tone for him where more people will be receptive. >> the people in the islamic countries get donald trump better than americans get donald trump. they said no problem, we get it. there is a candidate, that's his objective. then there is the president who need to keep his cards to himself. the hope has come out very

aggressively against america, and he came over here and he was would youd to a degree. i look at this pope for the first time. i look at a pope for not what they represent, but what country they are coming from. a rich guy -- ken are's a very structuralist pope, he's very anti-capitalism. for that they will look to the heavens and be thankful their lives are all vastly improved. kennedy: we can all learn from each other. we are all human beings and we are flawed from birth. >> why are you look at me. oh, i'm only one here. kennedy: this trip is well organized. there don't seem to be a lot of leaks and gaffes. why can't they run the administration in the united

states? who is in charge? brian: hopefully donald trump is learning something. a lot of the problems have been his fault. he's has about a thousand people down iterms of persoel. some are empty desks, and some are people who don't like him. he's bent head of his communication team the entire time. word is he wanted to nameio lieberman f.b.i. director. they said let's take our time. one thing about president obama he's president trump because he learned on the through. my hope is he's sitting around with his family and they said dad, you are blowing it. you are making things bad for yourself. you are making yourself look bad. don't do it. my hope is he regroups. reince priebus is back, they sent him home from saudi arabia

which i believe is a punishment and he's supposed to organize from here. look at your folder it's color code. i know where to go for organization. who taught you that. where do you go to school for thing like this. kennedy: micha my my caligraphy teacher. i'm sure the president will have a chance to look back on this trip. i hope that's what they take home, that and lovely slippers from the vatican. brian: hopefully nato turns out well. kennedy: i love my persian friends, the iranian regime, horrible. brian kilmeade thank you for being here. brian: what color will you put

my note card on? kennedy: a nice blue. done. i say nice word. coming up, the republican's push for tax return promises to lead to opposition. the gop have plenty of disagreements among themselves. where does that go? libertarians on the rise. nick gillespie is next. hi, i'm gerry beckley

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[♪] kennedy: with healthcare step prayerly out of the house, paul ryan turned his attention to tax reform. he might fumble that even worse than did with the first pass in healthcare. he's pushing for a border adjustment tax that would tax all imports at 20%. he argues this will incentivize businesses to bring jobs back home. but the white house,en the koch brothers and anyone who has taken economics 101 realizes it's a tax on consumers.

here is the ceo of target testifying on cap til today. >> we believe this new tax would hit families hard. raising prices on every day essentials up to 20%. we are not talking about luxury items. but instead the basics american families need. kennedy: i don't like the bored adjustment tax. i like buying stuff. >> the on thing we know for sure, because this is something that hasn't been tried in the united states. it's definitely going to be a tax on imports. economists will say that the value of the dollar will change so it really -- that tax will be absorbed in a higher value for the dollar. it's not clear that will happen. the other big thing about this is it's immensely complex it's a

way of taxing goods and services coming over the border. we have an insanely complex tax system. we don't need it to be more complex. this is new, untests and untried and it probably won't work the way it's intended. kennedy: somof the sugary soda tas and sin taxes th are it posed on people, when you are talking about places like walmart and target. there won't be crony capitalism to shield their consumers from an increase. >> part of the way paul ryan who has been talking this up for 15 years or more, the idea is it plays to a populist base. if you are using products that are from the united states, farmers like this, because it gets rid of export taxes. you are free to he can port stuff.

the idea is people will work in america more and use american-made products to make their stuff. places like target and walmart, they are the two biggest importers in america, and they go to the people who populists represent. if you increase the cost of under weig --underwear and groc. all of this is dynamic. this is going to be perceived by other country as an import tariff. and they will monkey around with stuff like that. for me from a libertarian point of view, part of it is the idea of demonizing imports versus exports.

there is nothing wrong within imports and exports. they are necessary and part of a dliefing economy. because paul ryan screwed up on the healthcare bill, he lost the nfidence of trumwho would have been interested in something like this. kennedy: he said i'm not quite certain about this. but now since they screwed up healthcare, it seems that door is closed. especially with the koch brothers standing over his shoulder saying we have -- 300 million reasons why you should get on board. >> we need tax revenues to pay for services people want. tax everything equally and let the economy work with as little distortion as possible. kennedy: coming up, i'll explain why the manchester attack makes

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kennedy: with so many terror attacks across the globe it's easy to grow numb to the details and forget which bomb went off in which city. my daughters are 8 and 11, and they have yet to go to their first big concert.

chances are they would choose ariana grande. killing children in a moment they least expect is suppose to have an emotional impact. thought it's never good to craft policy and react when you are caught up in emotion like this, it's impossible not to feel boiling total hatred to these zombies. my daughter is reading "to kill a making bird." i'm doing my best to flannel and let my inner cooler head prevail. but i'm hoping there is something that gets stirred up in all this emotion that somehow allows freedom to prevail. thank you for following me on

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