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>> i sure do. lou: he's done a hell of a job. [ laughter ] >> charlie, thanks for being with us, rachel, thank you, and thanks for being with us. join us tomorrow, senator luther strange, congressman jim jordan, ed rollins among our guests. please be with us. good night from new york. kennedy: the trump white house is confident replacing obamacare can get done this summer. some senate republicans have their doubts. the panel weighs in, and the president travels to kentucky to push infrastructure plan. congressman massey is here to tell us why he likes what he hears. grab a pen and paper because it's time to get smart. the president is furious at that cowardly turncoat attorney general jeff sessions and i'm happy to fan the flames of his hot anger if it will bring waxy bill bert's reign to an end.
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bled into every aspect of sessions working life with the president shouting act of disgust in a series of tweets, such as the justice department should have stayed with the original travel ban not the watered-down politically correct version they submitted to s.c.. sure, the president signed the revised travel ban after the first was not going to overcome legal hurtles. that's a minor detail. jeff sessions used masculine whiles to sweet talk the president into compromising key campaign promises all while conveniently coating himself in political ky to grease his way out of russia rat hole. the alabama hammer has shown himself to be a flimsy, self-serving rue with fascist tendencies, i think the president is absolutely right to question the moral credentials of a sneaky man with iffy motives who couldn't
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buy an ounce of common sense at the dollar tree. he and the president totally disagree about medical marijuana. >> this drug is dangerous. you cannot play with it. it's not funny, it's not something to laugh about, and trying to send that message with clarity that good people don't smoke marijuana. kennedy: that's right, they use edibles. the president has a more reasonable approach. and he's not laughing at cancer-striken old ladies who could benefit from a little reefer. >> the marijuana thing is such a big -- such a big thing. i think medical should happen, right? don't we agree? i think so, and then i really believe you should leave it up to the states. should be a state situation. kennedy: here, here, well said, freedom and federalism. two concepts that attorney general of ours, the disloyal jeff sessions will never embrace. i have to say, i agree with the president. sessions is not good at his job, he's a poor decision-maker
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and lacks basic life skills. he should tender resignation immediately to move about the country freely and fairley and out of the shadows of the contemptible self-serving authoritarian. i'm forcing you here against your will, and i like it. i'm kennedy. ♪ . kennedy: after the president's travel ban tweet storm legal experts those in support of trump and against him argued he was hurting his case in court. the former acting solicitor general representing hawaii in the lawsuit. he is tweeting it's kind of odd to have the defendant in hawaii versus trump acting as our co-counsel. we don't need the help but we'll take it. a lawyer supporting the president, george conway, you might know the last name, he is the husband of one kellyanne conway tweeted this --
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which is what actually matters. sadly. so is trump hurting his own case? bring in my swashbuckling party panel, gillian turner, former white house security staffer and fox news contribor and host of the new show, you're welcome! michael malice, spelled the right way. excellent. dave smith is here, comedian and host of the part of the problem podcast. so much freedom. thank you so much for being here. a glorious night. talk about this a little bit. i think you agree with me on sessions, right? >> on what, the drug war stuff? kennedy: that he lacks life skills. >> thank you, jillian. >> she's married to the most evil failed domestic policy in modern american history. >> the president is catching heat from people like kellyanne conway's husband, who said he made his case on twitter but
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ridiculous replexion campaign rhetoric and social media equals legal precedent. >> yeah, it is strange, but you know, these are the times we live. in donald trump on twitter is what we're going to deal with. it's not going to stop. kennedy: that's the ceiling, the ceiling is the roof. so does this put us on the fast-track to chaosville? >> we're already there. kennedy: are we? >> washington is complete chaos, ask anybody. the health care debate. scotus will vote independently of the argument. obama administration was arguing it wasn't a tax, individual mandate and said it is, despite all the arguments, and trump said many things that he can't put back in the bottle. yes, he's making it worse but go back and say you referred to it as a muslim ban at many points you were campaigning. there is no way you can erase that. kennedy: and tension, i agree with the lawyrs, once you take the oath, everything anges,
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once you assume the presidcy, everything changes but does this change how presidential candidates will campaign in the future if they know that their stump speeches may come back to haunt them in legal cases. >> they're going to stay off social media, i think. kennedy: you think? or more of it. >> too soon to say. depends how this shakes out. if you put aside the legal component for a second, in this instance when it comes to tweeting about the ban or the nonban, whatever they're calling it, the problem is that whatever the president tweets whether they consider it official, whether they consider it archivable or not, it renders his spokespeople obsolete. meaning no one cares what kellyanne conway or sean spicer is saying at the white house briefing if the president is tweeting what he's really thinking that morning or that evening or in the middle of the night. kennedy: no! >> it eliminates the need for those positions. so if he's going to stick to
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twitter, i recommend you get rid of the spokespeople and go direct to the american people. kennedy: talked about judge jeanine talking about advancing the president's agenda earlier today. the president met with officials behind closed doors. the president tweeted -- that's a ring endorsement. the white house wants to get health care done before summer recess so congress with focus on tax reform in the fall. many gop senators doubting health care plan can be agreed upon any time soon. i'm with them. i don't think there is a miracle in the -- >> you're so pessimistic. the republicans are going to cut government any day. any day now we're going to get the small government, health care repealed. >> ten people at department of defense right now. it's already been cut. >> if you're talking about -- kennedy: $600 billion?
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no, no, no. >> people who are working there. you're cuting -- by not appointing people in position. >> there is an easy way to see whether there's net cuts or net added and look at total spends which it goes up every single time republicans have control of the government. i wish they would take small government out of vocabulary and admit what they are. kennedy: there are some small government republicans, i'm going to talk one of them in a few minutes. >> there's three, and they're all on the show. >> you might get small marginal tax cuts. won't get anything big, 3, 4%, and spending will go way up and they will end up cancelling that anyway. kennedy: michael malice? >> that you might have democrats coming over. kennedy: they have do health care first? that's the total thing, well, we have to save a trillion dollars in health care. >> the majority of the house and the senate when it comes to health care. you have a republican majority,
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there are two huge wings and john boehner had to quit the house, i can't deal with you people anymore and they agreed with paul ryan vilely hated by so many in the base. i don't see how they get that on health care especially with the democrats when they laugh and say you're not getting it over our dead bodies. >> if the system implodes like michael malice expects it will, he's a prognosticator when it comes to anarchy, the free market will reign supreme and health care will live free forever. >> isn't that the goal? >> yes. [laughter] >> they want fame. >> that's why we're all here right now. to be serious about the timing issue of, this i think timing is sometimes everything and that's undercutting republicans when it comes to health care because as the first failed go-around showed, you really can't rush this vote because you're not going to get to where you need to be.
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kennedy: that's what they're trying to do, jam it through before the recess. >> the other problem is the thing is that getting more time is not necessarily going to help them because they're not get anything more votes. >> and get hit in the media repeatedly regardless. >> i don't think they're get anything more votes. kennedy: they're going to go on vacation, i hope they're going in wilderness. thank you for clarifying. >> my pleasure. >> i will see the panel in just a little bit. all right, infrastructure was supposed to be the one area republicans and democrats could agree, but after president trump unveiled his long overdue plan to privatize air traffic control yesterday, the left up in arms. house minority leader nancy pelosi saying trump's ideas for privatizing traffic control would hand control to special interests and big airlines. that's the talking point she squawked it like a parrot. and that was just day one of trump's infrastructure week.
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tomorrow he's visiting kentucky to address ways of improving levies, dams and waterways that are crucial to agricultural exports like hemp. joining me is thomas massie on the coveted transportation committee and the water way subcommittee. he supports the president's focus on infrastructure and joins me once again from washington, d.c. welcome back, congressman. >> hey, thanks for having me okennedy. i hope you don't take away my libertarian card because i like infrastructure and roads. >> a lot of people like roads but liberty minded politicos are excited about the idea of privatizing, many aspects of our infrastructure. is that what you like about it, and is that possible? >> i think it's completely possible. they've done it in other countries. better air traffic control than we do. certainly more modern in canada and australia where they've done. this we've already voted on this in the transportation committee in the last congress
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but delayed brings it to the floor for a vote because they felt the votes might not be there. with the president behind privatization of the air traffic control function, it may in fact happen. kennedy, i've got my own bill i've introduced with the ranking democrat, a transpartisan bill. kennedy: very nice. >> that would enable airports to raise their own revenues so they don't have to come hat in hand begging the federal government for grants. this is something heritage is behind as well as liberal democrats, and i found a place i can agree with them where they can give more control back to the local authorities and maybe we can get that in the plan. kennedy: and what exactly does that do other than pass the nonsavings along to the flying consumer? is it because there's an artificial cap at $4.50 for every airline ticket, and will some airports completely jack up the price to $100, making flying untenable for lower and middle income earners.
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>> that's a good point and a good question to raise. the cap is $4.50. the airport can only charge you $4.50 for you to use the airport. you can't run an airport on the revenues, there is a federal tax on the plane ticket as well that comes to washington, d.c., half of it gets lost here and the airports have to beg for that money back so they can do projects they know they need to do. now, in order to raise their cap in the bill that i've sponsored, they have to forego the grant money, and you'll see more competition among airports and airlines. right now the airports are captive of the airlines. kennedy: of course they're, it's completely overregulated and the free market doesn't have a chance. transportation secretary elaine chao has spoken about privatizing more airports. why not take it a step further and not only allow increase of the fee but allow airports to
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operate privately because the once around new york, they suck. >> well, you know, the democrat came to me and wanted to raise the cap from $4.50 to $8.50. i said i can't be for raising anything, i want to get rid of the cap and let them compete. that's the wait airports generate revenue. you would see more competition between airlines because it would diminish their monopoly on air travel, and i think you'd see tickets go down, the price of tickets. >> i hope so. >> that would be awesome. kennedy: i want us to all be flying on completely green solar-powered planes and first class with lie-flatbeds and a cabin full of servants. is that dreaming too big, congressman? >> way too big there, kennedy. kennedy: fair enough. well, enjoy the president on his visit to kentucky. will you be joining him on the excursion tomorrow? >> i have votes here tomorrow, and i take my obligation to
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votes seriously. he'll be talking about water way infrastructure, we have three locks and dams in my congressional district. it's like a major superhighway. people don't think about inland waterways. those are the first highways the founders had when they showed up. we've been improving them. it's a constitutional function, a federal function, i'm glad to see president trump talking about it. kennedy: all right, cut spending everywhere else. >> there's user fees for that too. kennedy: there's user fees for everything. we get nickel and dimed to best of luck with your legislation, keep us posted and thanks for coming by. >> thanks, kennedy. kennedy: coming up, government contractor charged with leaking classified nsa documents to target american voting systems during last year's election. the suspect wasn't shy about her anti-trump views. what was her motivation? i will discuss with an expert after the break. stay right here.
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believe is behind the leak of a top secret nsa document detailing russian efforts to influence last year's presidential election. 25-year-old reality lee winter, reality winter, i thought that was her screen name. that's her real name. gathering, transmitting or losing defense documents. court documents did name the organization winter is accused of giving the top secret documents too but the intercept published a report on russian hacking just before she was arrested. joining me jim harper, the vice president of the competitive enterprise institute. welcome back, jim. >> nice to be with you, kennedy. kennedy: let's talk about reality winter is. she the edward snowden of 2017? >> barely. she did leak information, classified information, and i think she did the public a service on the whole, unfortunately the service she did was illegal, and didn't have the skills or knowledge
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that edward snowden did or reveal the information as edward snowden did. kennedy: when snowden gave his gigantic trove of documents to the intercept here, did so because he knew the vulnerabilities at the nsa and did everything on a thumb drive which he took with him when he left the building and the country, but this person, i don't think she realized that the nsa has been scorned, and this is a spying agency, and they figured out how to use their internet skills to squash people who will try and snowden them once again. >> yeah, leaking in washington is a professional sport, and edward snowden was a professional leaker. reality winner wasn't playing tennis like the obama administration. wasn't playing hockey in terms of the trump administration, she was playing checkers or tittley winks. she didn't know how to secure vis-a-vis herself, she's been arrested in short joord what's
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going to happen to her? >> looks like she may do jail time. i think that on the merits, she may have served us well. people need to know about phishing attacks, election officials and companies that produce software that go into election machines need to know about the seriousness of the hacks. we can defend ourselves if we know the problems. the service is illegal, and i don't think she is well-advised to put the information out. kennedy: she was an active member of the air force for about four years, she knows her way around government institutions, working for a contractor for the nsa since february, and you know, i think it is a very intoxicating thing to be in this position and leak something to the media to give you a sense of power and control, you say ultimately it comes down to the fact, this is something i agree with you on, the government agencies are too vast and too powerful. they have way too many
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resources concentrated in single places that operate in utter opacity? >> yeah, this episode illustrates a story we've seen illustrated again and again. federal government is super large. the intelligence bureaucracy is super large and classification is overdone regularly. so you've got these huge agencies with lots and lots of stuff that shouldn't be classified. hard to secure that stuff. security should be thought of as a strategic secrecy. you're in a weak position when you try to keep something secret in the digital age because somebody can walk out with a thumb drive, we saw that in the chelsea manning case, edward snowden and reality winner. kennedy: there are too many intelligence agencies. the fact we have 17 speaks to your point. my question is, i'm not surprised to see someone under arrest for leaking. i'm not surprised to see that person coming from the nsa, but what i'm wondering is, is she a
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convenient scapegoat? >> well, she is, and perhaps help the trump administration say they're getting after the leakers. that's something president trump talked about doing. but the serious leaking for his purposes is the stuff that's happening in the white house. it's the people who are skilled at this. people who are at the level where they can do so with impunity. we see that again and again if you're at a certain level in the government and you do that, you get away scot-free. kennedy: not only did she do less than hillary clinton, she will probably see jailtime. there are advisers high up in the information leaking information trying to damage each other and see if anything follows from. that jim harper. thank you so much. appreciate your time. kennedy: my pleasure. coming up, the james comey hearing on capitol hill happening on thursday is being billed as can't miss tv. should we expect fireworks? pop your corn now.
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the party panel returns and rejoins. when the first senate committee hearing was broadcast live on television? the answer is back in 47 when general george c. marshall testified on the plan that bore his name to reconstruct post-war europe. back then, very few people had tv's to watch during the hearing, very few had plasma. millions are expected to tune in when fbi director james comey testifies before the senate intelligence committee and all four networks will be carrying it live. it's a big deal. senators from both sides of the aisle have several bones to pick with comey and you have a recipe for a televised melee could produce. here is mollie hemingway, a senior editor at federalist and fox news contributor. great to have you. >> great to be here. kennedy: a lot of people are expecting big, exciting things from the comey hearing, because
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pretty much everyone is mad at him. hillary clinton won't stop assailing him. president discussed it enough to fire him, republicans, noses out of joint along the way. what's going on here? >> might be good for people to keep expectations in check a little bit. what people want to hear comey say is donald trump obstructed justice, that's the drip, drip, drip in various news reports but he can't say that without indicting himself. if donald trump had obstructed justice and james comey just sat there and didn't do anything or wrote a memo to himself, that would mean he violated his dutand so think people should not expect he will do that, and he's already in fact gotten word out through his buddies that he's not going to say that donald trump obstructed justice but say various other things about how he doesn't like donald trump. that will be exciting enough for many people. kennedy: for many. i have one more prediction i want to get to in just a little bit, but first up, the memos,
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who has access to them? >> the senate intel committee asked a series of questions who had the memos, who had access to them, which topics did he cover, and he's a private citizen now and he's under no obligation to answer, that's par for the course with comey. good at answering questions that make him look good. not so great at answering questions truthfully or honestly that shed light on what's going on. kennedy: he's a grandstanding show boater and perceived by democrats to be protecting the president, democrats are flipping out on him and smell hillary's blood in the water and going to turn sharkey and they are going devour what's left of his carcass, am i right? >> i don't know, everyone is a grandstander here. every single one of the senators and people on the hill use the opportunities for political gain and people would like good answers, not just on the russia investigation but why comey did slow walk a leak investigation. there are a lot of things that we have questions about.
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even a recent reports of surveillance violations by the fbi that violated civil liberties. it would be good for them to dig into that. kennedy: comey said under oath that that has never happened. he essentially denied mass spying or any abuse of power by any intelligence or law enforcement agency, and i think it would be great to pin him down on one of those subjects. is it going to happen in the only thing i can say is maybe at this point comey has nothing to lose and going to go big or go home because he knows he's got millions of dollars waiting for him in private legal hallways or something. >> i don't know, i wish as a country we had more exciting things to do know that watch senate hearings. as a longtime reporter, this is not the best art our country has to offer. kennedy: that's right. >> we should get better viewing options. >> that would be musicals and jazz. mollie hemingway, thank you so much for being here, we appreciate it. >> very good. kennedy: bad news for beer
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distributors, a growing number of american men are deciding not to go college. according to the bureau of economic research. females outnumber males two to one. that's the ratio. some men could do without the massive student debt and others say the campus environment is downright hostile toward men. it's a great time to be a single guy on a college campus but the worst time to be running said campus. the party panel is back to share infinite wisdom. gillian turner, michael malice and dave smith. dave, i read the story with no surprise whatsoever, why would any guy want to go to college when you have tinder? >> or spending yourself into insane amount of debt to listen to how horrible you are. something interesting for decades you have the trend more and more people are going to college and the price of college is super inflated. kennedy: doesn't make sense.
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>> the governmenguarties all loans for college. the two things can't continue, and the fact that more people go means the degree is worth less. the college campus has been completely undermined as the center for intellectual exchange, average podcast has a more interesting conversation than gender studies class does. i couldn't imagine, advising a kid to go college. kennedy: no, it's something that we talk about in our family because our daughters are 8 and 11. it's down the road a little bit but i'm saying if we're going to shell out a couple hundred thousand dollars, my goodness, the environment better change? >> you're a philosophy major. i have never taken a class on being an obnoxious jerk on tv. they are teaching the kids to be disgusting and horrible. kennedy: gillian, you just graduated from college. >> here's the thing with this,
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if you get rid of all men nationwide on every college campus, they're everywhere. you have to talk to them in the street, you're going to have to talk to them at grocery store. they're still everywhere, you can't really get rid of them. i don't know, do you have solutions. >> to getting rid of men? >> uh-huh. kennedy: no. how boring would it be just a bunch of gals running around talking about how they missed lilith fair. do you have any indigo girls? >> i'm going a natalie merchant concert this summer. kennedy: i'm so sorry. >> i love her. [laughter] >> alternative nation up in here. kennedy: we never play natalie merchant. [laughter] . kennedy: spot on impression, if there are blind people in the
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studio, they think natalie merchant is singing and think it's an improvement. >> i'll be sure to instagram the whole thing. kennedy: i'll heart everything less. you guys are amazing. you keep my liberty lamp lit. >> that was the best closeout to a panel i've been a part of. kennedy: thank you, dave smith. because of you, michael malice and gillian turner, great night already. british authorities had their eyes on one of the london attackers for a while. why weren't they able to stop him before the attack? that's coming up next with the londoner. lead to cavities and bad breath. that's why there is biotene, the # 1 dry mouth brand recommended by dentists. biotene. for people who suffer from a dry mouth. ♪
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. kennedy: investigators in paris are tweeting an attack today san act of terror after a man screaming it's for syria smashed a police officer in the head outside notre dame cathedral. british officials identified the third and final attacker in saturday's london attack, it was 22-year-old ding bat swansom. i'm not going to give him glory. the guy was stopped in an airport trying to enter syria. the other attacker 22-year-old charum butt. terrorists involved in the three isis attacks, manchester bombing, london attack were
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known to authorities in each instance. what do we need to do to identify the terrorists ahead of the attacks? joining me is the global editor of riot news, christian steven. how are you? >> i'm good. how are things in london, still on lockdown. is it hard to move around? >> no. hasn't been inockdown at all. i think the "new york mes" said we were reeling, really we were cleaning up the glass and getting another beer. kennedy: as londoners do, they keep calm, carry on. >> carry on. that's right. kennedy: the law enforcement carried on without paying enough attention to these guys. what accounts for that ultimate failure, do you think? >> well, i think ultimate failure is a little strong, you got to remember there are three of the individuals, and individuals is a very strong term for sort of the horror that's encapsulated in the human body that they perpetrated there. are thousands upon thousands of people put on these lists. i'm on one of the lists because
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of the places i've traveled to, and, of course, it's a little different because i'm a journalist. kennedy: i want to talk about your immigration story in a little bit. it's interesting and shows the failure of the immigration system in this country, and i think it's very important, but in great britain, you guys have imposed a mass spying program, the likes of which the world has not seen, and given all of that, it was not enough to target and surveil three men who were once again hell-bent on killing a bunch of people with rudimentary murder items. >> and rudimentary is the right thing. 5 i, if you fight an enemy as if you're in the future, and the enemy is fighting like the past, using a van driving into public, using knives, you know a handgun that you picked up, how can you fight an enemy with futuristic weapons when they
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are using weapons from a bygone era. kennedy: weapons are from a bygone era. the social media and proclamations on twitter and facebook and youtube tend to be a little more futuristic in that there -- >> no. kennedy: about the government. >> of course, the things for the cells, most of the cells we hear about that are using social media, are more flashy and rarely act on anything. the cells that actually tend to be acting on these, the wahhabi which is nothing to do with the koran whatsoever, it's all word of mouth and pass note to pass note. it comes from places, it's verbal and written down in ink. it's not the twitter blowouts. kennedy: yeah, all right, let's talk about your situation. you're a journalist. you have visited turkey, syria, iraq, afghanistan, parts of
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africa where you were nearly assassinated by a war lord. however, you can't get into this country because you visited so many places, so you are in essence, though you want to do the job of a journalist and tell your story and get a visa to come over here, you can't do that because of immigration laws, so you are the victim of extreme vetting, are you not? >> well, funny, to be perfectly fair, i'm not -- on paper, i'm not the most easy candidate to let in. i was approved but it went into different process when donald trump became president. it comes down to the point of 6'2", white guy called christian and a jihadi on paper because of the countries i've been to. it comes down to mostly fear, but 's a basic and not very well thought through system of putting through all of these people through the algorithm of countries, and when it comes through, we decide to put it in limbo for a very long time.
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kennedy: you've been in limbo for a long time, it costs a lot of money and shows you it gives a false sense of security. thank you very much for being here, good to see you again, christian. >> always a pleasure. kennedy: coming up, commercial airlines aren't the only places to witness a good boxing match nowadays. we head out to iowa mcdonald's for a glimpse of the sweet sights. that's in the "topical storm". what is he doing? stay here.
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