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listen to what ted cruz said about getting to yes. >> if premiums continue to rise after we hold a press conference claiming to have repealed obamacare, that is a disaster. it is a disaster politically. it's a disaster substantiallily. it would be a failure of the mandate we've been given by the voters. reporter: take a look at three senators who are not a no, but they're not yeses, they're somewhat unclear. that obviously would be susan collins of maine, lisa murkowski from alaska, and rob portman from ohio. neil as you do the math, it is simple, 48 democrats will vote no. mitch mcconnell needs at least 50 republicans to say yes. then he can get this through with the vice president voting in favor as well. if he loses just one more, because if he loses more than the two, if it is three, this thing doesn't go forward. negotiations are underway. everybody has different concerns.
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some like portman are concerned about funding for opioid at diction. collins from maine is concerned about impacts from on poor individuals. if they can placate concerns. we can see this thing get through the senate. back to you. neil: adam, thank you very much. those four republicans include senator rand paul, who are telling me this is more than obamacare light, but obamacare plus. mitch mcconnell wants a vote before the july 4th recess, is that doable? >> it could happen if the people that wrote the bill are willing to negotiate. conservatives want a repeal bill. i want a bill that looks like, feels like and is a repeal bill. when i keep reading this, it sounds like obamacare to me. doesn't sound like obamacare light. in some areas it may be obamacare plus on the subsidy side. we can't have a bill that spends more than obamacare in the first couple years and call that a repeal bill.
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so, yes, we should be for repeal, but we also have to have sufficient confidence in capitalism, competition, and free markets. and i don't think we do. i think we're replacing it with, here is little obamacare. here is another little obamacare. we don't believe the market will work, because what we're doing is, the death spiral we've talked about so much, we're dumping a bunch of federal money into the individual market, saying prices would be lower. you could do that for new cars. why don't we propose a new car stabilization fund or a college stabilization fund, or an iphone stabilization fund? those would not be republican ideas and laughed out of congress. the same should happen for stabilization fund where we dump taxpayer dollars into insurance company's covers making $15 billion a year. neil: you know what is interesting about that exchange with senator rand paul, normally when i chat with someone who goes against the grain or the leadership or someone who feels
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that republicans are rushing into something a bad idea, usually i get a lot of critical response from viewers say they're wrecking it for the whole team, et cetera. not so with senator rand paul's comments, many of you, most on social media commenting what he is saying, it makes perfectly good sense. a smaller government program isn't necessarily a better government program. it is still huge. to bush 41 economic advisor todd buchholz and "washington examioner" emily lashinsky. it may be a timetable to vote on it before the july 4th recess. do you think mitch mcconnell will force a vote either way even if he doesn't have the votes? >> no, i don't think he will. there is room here. look what happened on the house side, pretty much echoing what ted cruz, rand paul, ron johnson, mike lee are saying here. all it needs to do to get to place lowers premiums to get them on board.
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they may need longer than july 4th recess but it is doable. smart to take the time, take his breath, to get there if he thinks he can at all. neil: todd, what do you think? >> look they unveiled this bill on a thursday. today is friday. folks in washington are already leaving town for the weekend. i think there is precious little time and very little momentum at this point. republicans are feeling not quite panic-stricken but i don't think that the spirit of compromise is in the air yet. now understandably, president trump feels as if he was burned by paul ryan on the house side, made a slew of phone calls. ultimately that failed on the floor. i don't think president trump wants to do that again. so i think that it won't get done by july 4th, at least that is my bet. neil: the fear always is in that event, emily, other things that hinge on this, tax reform what the markets want to see, many republicans want to see, for
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more agreement on that than this? do you find that to be the case? are there plenty of fights to be picked with that one as well? >> i think tax reform is tougher than we think but would be easier than health care. tax reform bills has things that are not necessarily related to tax reform. it is a little stickier. talking about the postcard size tax brackets. being able to do your taxes on postcard size, that is easy pitch to the american people. it would be politically easy to do. i think it still could get sticky. what we see, when you need someone like susan collins can accept and someone like rand paul can accept that is much more difficult. neil: todd, when i look at this, they're not that far apart, if you think about it. on some of the key issues, republicans with democrats, despite democrats call hag mean, heartless, republicans are
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maintaining basic structure of the affordable care act. it is less omnibus government program, right? >> well the bill does repeal all of the taxes which were pretty darn onerous. neil: not all of them. cadillac stays for premium plans. >> well, the tax on investment income comes off. million device tax comes off. but it is kind of a ironic situation where rand paul and ted cruz says it is obama care lite, prong page of "new york times" has two articles stacked on top of each other saying it destroys obamacare. neil: that is a very good point. they go on to point that out, all of sudden point out the fact that it is not that different as well. so the headline belies something else. go ahead. >> well, neil, you know what? president obama, almost like a character, almost like bruce willis in the "die hard" movie, leaves office, slapping
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this incendiary device on the side of ship of state called obamacare, leads to higher premiums, higher taxes, people losing insurance. then it is left to the the republicans to try to solve it. of course the republicans took on this challenge, and they have to deliver. that doesn't mean, they're not the excused from this extraordinary, extraordinarily difficult task but let's face it, it is extraordinarily difficult to repeal an entitlement. i kind of wonder, mcconnell should say, sentence number one of the senate bill, we here birepeal obamacare, we'll see in the details that in fact it is not entirely done but enough to placate 50 u.s. senators. neil: emily, both of you are much closer to this than i, this does not, we may slightly disagree on this, repeal obamacare. when push comes to shove, todd, you're right, with all the taxes taken out or most of them, you're right, it doesn't mimic
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it in that respect, but it keeps it in large part. democrats who were concerned about republicans acting on repealing it outright, they need isn't worried. republicans hell-bent assuring their base they would repeal, they didn't. emily, i guess what i'm saying, republican cost have saved a lot of trouble getting enough republican votes, agreeing we'll not repeal this thing or junk it entirely. that would is have assured a few more democratic votes to offset whatever ajita they have now? >> i don't think they will do that. they are spinning something that will not repeal obamacare root and branch a quote from mitch mcconnell. they will spin it as repeal. senators, ted cruz, rand paul, ron johnson say this is repeal enough. it will not get root and branch appeal, government takeover of obamacare, it will not happen. we understand this. this is realists, this is the game we're playing this is what we're working with. neil: todd, if this doesn't come
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to pass or get delayed, they don't get to a vote before the july 4th recess, let's say it is pushed back further, are there any options for republicans to say we tried but we failed? rand paul telling me that is not an option. tough do this, do it right before you can entertain the whole tax thing what do you think? >> no. i think president trump at that point would be quite frustrated, want to move on to cutting taxes, tax reform. then let obamacare implode. blame it on the democrats. then the republicans will have, will have a mandate to actually do something that is root and branch and radical. about i don't think donald trump can risk his presidency on the patience of squabbling in the u.s. senate. neil: all right. >> he moves on. neil: we shall he see. guys, thank you both, very, very much. have a good weekend. all right is the president beginning to tip his hand about the fate of robert mueller? not exactly saying the guy is out of there but he is open, to
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neil: all right. just a few minutes ago, the president as promised signing a bill that would protect whiles sill blowers at the -- whistle-blowers at the veterans administration. this was a key concern of is. if there were warts and problems at the va against our veterans that should be protected, not hunted down. whistle-blower scott davis will be my guest on "your world," what he makes of the move when people want to share with the american people what is going on with our heroes. the president making that happen moments ago through an executive order. curious comments from the president regarding robert mueller. that might be raising eyebrows among some who are saying is he laying groundwork for firing of
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the guy? that might be a bit of a leap here. people noticed he had rather unique comments, to put it mildly about the chief counsel investigating all of this, the former fbi director as well. closeness with a former fbi director comey. blake burman following it all at the white house. hey, blake. reporter: the comments came in an interview that president trump gave in an interview with ainsley earhardt that aired on "fox & friends." he described robert mueller as an honorable man and hopes he comes up with a honorable solution. but he took issue with the several aspects of the mueller-led investigation. the fact that bob mueller and jim comey are close with each other. the president brought up an issue of some of the hires that mueller already made. >> he is very, very good friends with comey, which is very bothersome. i can say that the people that have been hired are all hillary
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clinton supporters. some of them worked for hillary clinton. i mean the whole thing is ridiculous, if you want to know the truth from that standpoint. reporter: neil, the president also suggested that the may 12th tweet he sent out about comey and the tapes some 42 days ago was essentially a bluff to get jim comey to tell the truth. earlier today the white house press secretary sean spicer was also asked whether or not that mounted to a form of intimidation. he pushed back on that notion. >> quite the opposite. i think the president made it very clear he wanted the truth to come out. he wanted everyone to be honest about it. he wanted to get to the bottom of it. he succeeded in doing that. the reality he wanted to make sure that the truth came out. reporter: neil in this interview the president also reiterated fact as he sees it there has been no collusion and there has been no obstruction, and he ended quote, virtually everybody agrees with that. neil, back to you.
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neil: thank you very much, my friend. president trump, even though the fact he is saying what he is saying about mueller and inserting himself in a controversy when he has other good things to talk about the economy and progress out of the senate now, on at least a measure a health care draft, that might not be popular, but at least the kind of stuff that people like to see, charlie gasparino own all of those disruptions. >> i ran to be with you, ran. neil: why you just at work? >> i was out reporting. got up a little late today. did you? i think i slept through that. neil: okay, fine. i do want to raise the fact that you created a little bit of a firestorm. >> what happened? neil: on social media. >> oh. neil: you engage your viewers. >> i call them trolls. i'm sweating now because i ran here because i post, sometimes when i get trolls attacking me, do we have it? i post a sweaty picture of
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myself. neil: yes. is it your way of saying because i know my producers are getting nervous because they want to talk about news. i prefer to talk about this. i am the same way after a big lunch. do you think that sends a signal to your loyal base who love you, if they don't say something nice, you're going to beat them up? >> listen, i despise bullies. one thing that twitter does, this is one of the reasons why they can't sell the damn thing. if you want to know why it is trading below the ipo price? neil: you tweet just like the president. >> despite the fact you have me on there and president trump. neil: in that order. >> who should be boosting earnings like crazy, in that order, you have so many anonymous trolls attacking people for no reason. they gang up. neil: they can use handles, right generic. >> it is not them. like deplorable george or liberal jack. neil: deplorable george is me. >> they attack you.
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attack everything about you. attack your looks. neil: you don't accept it. >> what i generally say i stopped using the blow-up doll, sometimes when they said something nasty, i would send a trump blow up doll. i was told to stop using that by management. yes, what i do now, prove to me in five seconds that you don't live in your mother's basement, i won't block you. neil: really? >> yes. neil: that is doing well. can i ask you about what is it going on with diversions and another major twitter user, president of the united states. he seems to be laying the potential groundwork for maybe getting rid of mueller? am i overexamining that? >> no, i don't think so. i talk to a lot of people with friends of donald trump, who believe that he will get rid of mueller. find a pretense to do so. neil: won't that be disasterous? >> probably will. they probably don't have anything. one the problems with
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donald trump, if you covered his business career like i have he is pim pettous. he can't -- impetuous, i can't imagine that flynn or sessions having collusion meetings. maybe it is there, i don't know. he won the election fair and square. there is no way that he didn't. i think what he can't take is the constant negative drumbeat. it drives him crazy. he is not a guy that can disengage from social media, or like you. >> when people attack me, i attack back. i know the feeling. but donald trump watches tv all the time. he is watching cnn and a bunch of doofuses on msnbc, basically calling him every name in the book. his head is exploding. he thinks that maybe one way to get rid of it to fire comey which i think was dumb, particularly when he did it. neil: right. >> another way to do it is to fire mueller. neil: fire mueller. who will do the job? this might be a nixon "saturday
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night massacre." >> over nothing. neil: it is true, not the deputy attorney general who appointed him. who will do -- by the way. we're making this leap only because we're reading between the lines of stuff -- >> why is he saying that that? all i know the market sup 14 today. we're at record high. that is not a huge rally. i wrote a column in the post, channels some of my thoughts with you. donald trump has amazing economic agenda. stick to it. because the markets believe he will get that through. neil: i'm all for tweeting. he can tweet as much as he wants. when he goes off topic, when those tweets stay on topic on this stuff, a lot of good, promising stuff. >> suppose the markets, if he gets tax cuts through, particularly corporate tax cuts, markets will move forward i believe. if that happens, guess what, who is going to care whether jeff sessions said hello to somebody, some russian dude in a restaurant before the campaign? i mean that is what this is is
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coming down to. this is bizarre cover-up of a bizarre story because donald is crazy. other people will tell you he is acting guilty. normal people don't act like this. if you know donald like i do, this is how he acts. he is sick of hearing it. his head is exploding. neil: can't blame but nor can you let them see you sweat? >> i'm sweating now. all the time. you're right about that. i think that is the weak underbelly of donald trump. he can't take any criticism. listen, obama, say what you want, he was attacked vicious by people on this network, by others. i mean i used to read editorials about him in the "wall street journal." they were not pretty. relentlessly every day i think for good reason. he didn't sit there and like, go nuts about it every day and start tweeting about it. i think -- neil: but he did it in other less obvious, maybe more on seekous ways.
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>> smarter ways. donald trump has amazing fiscal again day, indeed. >> bill clinton was nearly impeached over a blue dress stuff. and, nobody, but he wasn't impeached because the economy was going pretty well. neil: if i send you a nasty tweet right now, how quickly will you get back to me? >> usually within seconds. i don't let them lie much. you have to prove to me -- neil: entire staff starting right now. >> you would have to prove to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt you don't live in your mother's basement and eat hot pockets for lunch. neil: thank you, my friend. >> anytime, you're the best. don't mess with this guy because he will kill you, he will kill you. it will not end nicely. >> thank you. neil: not exaggerating, by the way, he will take out your entire family as well. senate gop cuts to medicaid are getting all this heat, i should point out that those cuts are in a different vernacular. this is just slowing the rate of
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neil: senate gop plan getting a hit for critics talking about deep cuts. medicaid services administrator seema verma. help us what is true and what is not. is the program being gutted or isn't it? >> this program has been around 50 years. it is supposed to be taking care of most vulnerable populations. age, blind, disabled. we can all agreed that the medicaid program has not performed the way it should.
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instead of focusing on improving the program, what obamacare did was put more people into a broken system. what we're trying to do is to have the medicaid program focus on the most vulnerable people, reframe the partnership between the federal and state government. the way it is working today, the federal government making all the rules, putting out lots of regulations and states are stifled. they can't innovate with their programs. they are closer to the people that they serve and they have a much better sense of how to make these programs work better. so -- neil: but a lot of them like the medicaid part of that, right? they like having medicaid money and doing what they will and want with it. john kasich of ohio comes to mind. is the message to them, be, don't get too used to this or what? >> i think there is a couple of different pieces when we talk about the medicaid program and the bill. so the first piece is to strengthen the program for what the program was originally intended to serve which is
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vulnerable populations, aged, blind and disabled. we're talking about taking individuals that are currently in the medicaid program an putting them into private coverage where they will have more choices for coverage. just because somebody is poor, doesn't mean they shouldn't have choices about their health care coverage. we're strengthening base program and focus on most vulnerable to improve quality and the out comes and taking the program, moving people from medicaid into the private market where they have more choices. neil: the idea of more choices seems to be read on the left by having no choice or all of sudden, all options off the table here. if anything some conservatives, administrator come out to say, this is just a slightly, and stress slightly smaller omnibus government program. who is right? >> well, you know, i think when you bring up the issue of choice
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what we have going on here is declining choice. we have a pathway to a single-payer system. we have counties in america that have no choice of coverage, so even if they want care, even if they want insurance. even if they could afford obamacare double-digit increases, they can't even buy insurance. on top of it they will pay a penalty. we have the situation where in some areas there is only one offer. so that means, one carrier. you don't have a choice. might not see the doctor you want to see, because the doctor is not there, providers that are not there, waiting in long lines and long distances. that is real issue in terms of choice. the other areas of the country where there might be a couple insurers, we're seeing double-digit increases. after three years of obamacare we have almost 100% increase in premiums. it is going up by more double-digit increases.
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early filings coming through. we heard from maryland and virginia and delaware. all those premiums are above this year. not a choice for americans. neil: not sustainable. >> not sustainable. neil: thank you very, very much. good having you. >> thank you. neil: the congressional black caucus turned down an opportunity to meet and spike with donald trump twice now. one prominent democrat who was once the head of that group, on what's going on, after this.
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little bit chagrined that the congressional black caucus was not keen on meeting with president trump. take a look. what did you make of that? >> that is unfortunate. here is what we have, we have the president of the united states willing to meet with a powerful group of congress members to find ways to improve the quality of life of their citizens, the answer can't be no. if you don't like the direction of policies on the president, if you don't like the president it is not abouthim. it is about the policy positions represented in the administration that could bring relief to citizens. neil: so are democrats, particularly congressional black caucus missing out on a rare opportunity to work on the issues and work on the economy? democratic congressman, member of cbc himself, emanuel cleaver. good to have you. what do you think of your old colleagues not meeting with the president. >> i don't know about two
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requests that we turned down. we did meet with the president, at least our executive committee met with the president on march 22nd. it was a good meeting and during that meeting we presented the president through our chair representative richmond, a list of issues we were concerned about and like to work with him on. so when the letter came from omarosa inviting the cbc back, all of the members, it was declined not as an act of disrespect but, we thought that we would have gotten a response from the president from the earlier meeting with the executive committee. additionally, i think i need to add, that, what we did, we're talking about leader of the free world, realizing he didn't have time to meet with every group. we requested opportunity to meet with appropriate cabinet members to further deal with issues that
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we had left with him. none of that happened. interpretation of the letter, this was for a social occasion, a social event and we didn't think at this point, that that was needed. neil: but you must have known the impact this decline would have, right? >> yes, but keep in mind, that the congressional black caucus was engaged in a high level of dispewtation with president clinton. what i hope we never do as members of congress who are african-american is decide we're not going to work with someone on issues that are important to us. if you go back and look at history, the caucus met long before my time with richard nixon. never was there a time when they did not meet. there was never a time they did not meet with president reagan or with george bush. neil: but congressman, is it fair to say, i don't want to
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generalize here, but the congressional black caucus is more willing and eager to work with democrats than republicans? >> obviously, there would be a greater inclination to have some agreement on issues. but make no mistake. this republicans, would do the same, in the other situation, other direction. so. neil: i don't know about that. i think there is a lot of pet you lens on either side and tone on washington. >> yes. neil: with all a the uproar and extreme emotions, to your credit, you don't fall prey to that. that this was time to give benefit of the doubt to any exchange, even more on the side of pleasantries to start off. >> i can appreciate that. i appreciate tim scott. he is right in almost all of what he just said. when i say friend, i don't mean
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political congressional kind of friendship you say it. he and i are actually friends. i got into some trouble speaking very kindly about in his home state. what we are understanding is that the cabinet members will know much more about what we want to talk about. so, meeting with the president, again taking up his time, would not be valuable. we also thought he would send a response. now, the tone is bad. in that first meeting, the two things that were asked of the president immediately was, would you please be aware of your tone because it has a negative impact on people, and it can hurt this is on march 22nd. neil: right. >> the second one was, your cabinet, can you make your cabinet members available, to which the president said yes. but we had no follow-up. we had a falling out with the
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president of the united states three years ago, four years ago, when i was chair over something similar. so, this action is not reserved for republicans. bill clay, who was one of the founders of the black caucus said we should have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies, just permanent interests. i said publicly and others have, if the president wants to sit down to talk about a infrastructure program, he will have to push us away to keep us out of the white house. neil: that could be promising. let me ask you, congressman, since all especially congressman scalise's shooting, a lot of people thought tone would improve, people would be more amenable to hearing each other out. then we have release of senate draft plan on health care, immediately disparaged by the way on the left and the right, specifically by the likes of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, that it was mean and heartless.
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now, there are a lot of ways could interpret something but it does continue to spend hundreds of billions of dollars over the next decade, maybe not a trillion dollars over the next decade, is that mean and heartless? do you think that is fair characterization? >> we all should be careful about the adjectives, including the president, who also said it was mean, and that is why we said -- neil: talking about the house version that was being -- you're quite right. a lot of strong words. >> so i think that we need to understand just because a person has a different opinion doesn't make him or her evil. neil: you ever wonder, congressman look at cost of health care and talking about being mean or heartless, losing sight of those who are paying into this and trying to understand you how the costs have gotten out of control now, there doesn't seem to be a lobby for them?
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>> yeah, there are people, republicans who are very strong strong lobbyists for it. i believe we could have much better bill, i hoped and prayed but republicans in the senate, but would sit down and craft a bill that could pass because see what is going to happen now, when this is passed, and i think the senate is going to pass it. neil: you do? >> i do. neil: even with four republican. >> absolutely. absolutely. i think what will happen, because the way it went threw without any participation on part of the democrats, democrats will jump on merry-go-round, when we get in power, we'll do what they did. that is why this town is becoming more and more toxic. neil: tit-for-tat. >> that's right. neil: i'm curious post this georgia election, that a lot of
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democrats are calling for nancy pelosi's head. are you? >> no, i'm not. the reason is we're in middle of a term. we're months away from beginning of campaigning for the 2018 elections. i find it absolutely ridiculous for us to kick a leader out at this point. i think there is period that comes where we will debate a new leader but maybe select a new leader. that is after the 2018 election. i think this is premature. neil: don't think given this, number of democrats declined since she took over, that doesn't mean she is the rhine, i understand that, but you know in football or baseball, they get rid of the coach, is it time to get rid of the coach? >> as a united methodist pastor, i can tell you when church
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membership begins to dwindle the bishop starts looking at moving the pastor. neil: could be the homily. >> could be. neil: right, right. >> but you know, naturally, when we have the kinds of losses that we've experienced, there will necessarily be debate. people who believes there is need for change will be able to express it in front of the entire caucus. i don't think this is the time for it. we have a health care bill on the floor that we think needs to be debated and hopes, needs to be defeated. why in the world would we say okay, pause, we're going to argue and fight over who will -- neil: need a better messenger? maybe she is not it. heim not close you have no to know that, maybe you need someone can unite folks or used as prop in ads to galvanize the opposition.
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>> i don't know if you saw my comments on "the new york times." neil: i did. >> unless we elect blue dogs like ike skelton, god bless him. neil: why not you? >> i represent a district with nine rural cities. neil: i know. >> and i think -- neil: you bridge a divide. >> yeah. but, i don't want to be anybody. i'm not sure i want to be anybody. neil: story of my life, congressman. we'll watch it very closely. but sir, always a pleasure. thank you very, very much. >> sure. neil: all right. emmanuel cleaver. a lot going on. oil oversupply and gas prices going lower. a lot of people in the stock market hate it but you as a driver this summer, man, oh, man, you are going to love it. y, trades are now just $4.95. we cut the price of trades to give investors even more value. and at $4.95, you can trade with a clear advantage. fidelity, where smarter investors will always be.
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neil: notice gas prices are dropping fast, 21 days in a row. oil glut is part of the reason, not the sole reason. bottom line for you a summer to remember with cheap prices. jeff flock at gas refinery in illinois with very latest. jeff? reporter: citgo refinery back there, neil. see smoke coming out of stacks. these refiners are going crazy.
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oil is so low, they're driven to produce a lot of gasoline and that means low prices. national average is 22.27 a average -- 2.27, average. this refinery i'm at right now, they burn canadian tar sands oil, that is now trading at about $32 a barrel. so you know, there is every reason to kind of up production and in the u.s., production, 9.35 million barrels a day last week, which is a big increase over what it was just a year ago, 8% increase. you know, it is energy independence. we are making a lot of our own oil. the problem is, as often said, the cure for low prices is more low prices because that is going to potentially, once we get below 44, below 40, start to drive some people out of it.
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but right now the only people getting hurt in this, i would say the oil companies. if you look at a company like marathon oil. there is a lot of them out there taking a hit, they're down about a third over the course of the past year, an if oil prices go much lower, i think that stock probably takes a even greater hit. enjoy it while you can, this is time of the year, neil, as you know, gas prices usually rise. right now, headed in the other direction. neil: i like that the cure for low price, generally low prices. thank you, my friend, good seeing you. up 2.9% in may, follows jump in existing home sales. this appears to be across the board advance. we've seen this trend many more months. room estate executive on if this really confirms what seems to be the case, that housing is back, maybe with avenge against. what do you think? >> housing is definitely very strong right now. it is regaining steam. numbers came you out on wednesday and earlier today show that there is increased
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confidence and very solid demand bit consumers. neil: across all price points? >> primarily the mid-markets from 200,000 to $700,000. that is the strongest market we've seen this past month. neil: what about new buyers coming in? obviously that feeds everything. what are you noticing there? >> new buyers are really important and they find that mortgage rates are still very favorable. and they find also that strong jobs market is important to them. so, they're buying. and they love new homes. we've noticed that sales of new homes went up by 3%. there was great surprise. also the existing home sales on wednesday showed they went up to 5.62 million. neil: you wonder what could get in the way of this, increase in rates doesn't appear to be in the equation, if tax cuts don't go through, things delayed in
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washington, would that have any effect at all? >> it is more how people feel. whether they have certainty and whether they have stability when it comes to jobs. the biggest problem i think, that potentially can affect their confidence is, what is the supply like? because, a lot of builders, right now, are facing increased costs of land and labor. so they can't produce at prices they want to at many homes the demand wants to absorb. neil: thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, neil. neil: housing on fire for the time-being. we'll see how long that lasts. meanwhile look at tax cuts in the senate health care land. even if we don't get to the tax cuts per se. what if i told you this plan goes through you got them or good chunk of them? watercraft on the market
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if they're honestly willing to make this look more like a repeal bill, i think we've got a chance. but all we have seen is the house bill they kept plussing up with more money. so they sprinkled money on top of the house bill to encourage people to be on it. but allowing medicaid expansion to go on and on and on and on and on and then repealing the taxes that actually paid for it doesn't make any economic sense. so everybody wants to get rid of the taxes, but they're wanting to let the expenditures go on and on, which there's no way that ends up being or making any sense with regard to the debt or not adding new debt. >> i think we're going to get there. we have four very good people that -- it's not that they're opposed, they'd like to get certain changes. and we'll see if we can take care of that. neil: all right. so the president is optimistic that this can all be put past them and a vote could be on and approved.
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how likely is any of that, hill national political reporter kate martell. what do you think? >> i think the chances of a vote next week are fatherly high. republicans -- are fairly high. just remember in the past spring how volatile the town halls were when we saw these senators go back and talk to their constituents. republicans are going to force this through. whether it actually passes, i think there's -- i don't see rand paul moving over. neil: yeah, i agree. >> the chances of that happening are fairly slim, but i think there's a decent chance that they could end up with a 50/50 tie, and we have vice president p mike pence breaking the tie, and if that ever happens, it's going to move over to the house instantaneously, and i think it's going to be some chaos right before the fourth of july break. neil: really? okay. one possibility is, with your scenario, is that it's not rand paul, one of the other three will bend. that could be ted cruz or ron johnson. i mean, any feeling you have
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likely who would bolt? >> i could see ted cruz a little bit. my reasoning for this is that ted cruz on the campaign trail was big about obamacare, obamacare, obamacare. this is his time to do it, and if it doesn't go through, the chances, i think, are fatherly slim. i see -- are fairly slim. even though this is more of obamacare lite, he's going to try to push it through just to get something done. neil: one thing that's a little different about mitch mcconnell than, let's say, speaker paul ryan in the house is in the house if ryan doesn't have the votes, he pulls the vote. i get a sense that mitch mcconnell won't do that. he'll go ahead and have it. >> yeah, neil, i agree with you. i think the way i see it is they want to force a vote, and if anything, it just continues to push the conversation. and whether they go back to the drawing board, i don't see mitch mcconnell doing what paul ryan would do -- neil: why is that, by the way? i get a sense that speaker ryan
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is trying a lot harder to please president trump whereas mitch mcconnell -- it could be my read, and i could be very, very wrong and rude, by the way -- [laughter] but i don't think mcconnell is that indebted or inclined to do anything and everything to make president trump happy. >> you know, neil, i agree with you on that. yes, paul ryan has, you know, yeah, he wants to please the president, he wants to help get this, make happen and push this through and promise what he had promised to all of his members at the beginning of the term. i think that mitch mcconnell kind of looks for it and sees these other issues that they want to work on and doesn't necessarily want to hedge on just thish -- hinge on just the issue of obamacare. that's how they continue it and to try to work in the meantime to hope they can get these 50 votes. neil: yeah. i always get the impression is his view is i've been here long before you got here and long after you leave here. kate, have a good weekend. thank you. >> thanks so much. neil: all right. a lot of people are talking
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we've got to get this done, right? republicans say so we can get right to the tax cuts what if i told you you've already gone a long way to addressing the tax cuts? gerri willis looking at that aspect. hey, gerri. >> hey, neil. the senate health bill puts the kibosh on 2021 obamacare taxes and the amount of money the government will have to forgo is estimated at $900 billion over ten years. and that's according to americans for tax reform. that means the senate bill's tax cuts are similar in size to the george w. bush tax cuts passed in 2001 and 2003. weighing in at 0.4% of gdp, that's how we made the comparison. now, here's a rundown of taxes that will go. most notable, a 3.8% tax on investment income including capital gains andtive depends. the tax only applies to incomes exceeding $200,000 and married couple making more than $250,000. like in the house bill, that tax
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would be repealed as of january 1st, 2017, dropping the top capital gains tax rate to 20% from 23.8%. a separate 0.9% payroll tax which only applies to high income households as well will remain in place until 2023 just as in the house bill. but that's not the only taxes that will be struck. check out this list. an indoor tanning tax, limits on contributions to flex spending accounts, psas, higher -- fsas, taxes on pharma and health insurance premiums and an excise tax on medical devices. now, americans for tax reform said this to fox business about the tax cuts, they say it would be pro-growth, americans will have more purchasing power. health care will be more individually owned and controlled on big picture repealing these obamacare taxes clears out the underbrush, sets the stage for comprehensive tax reform. neil, i guess we'll have to wait and see on that last point, but you can see it's no small thing,
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the taxes that are being cut here. and regardless of who wins, it looks like the economy broadly could be a big winner. neil: all right, gerri, thank you very much. gerri willis. president obama and democrats calling this old republican idea a big old transfer of wealth from the rich to the poor. that everyone's going to be hurt by this, but the rich will all of a sudden get everything. so in reverse. republican strategist ashley hayek and shelby holliday. what do you make of that, the former president inserting himself in the debate? i can understand, this was his significant piece of legislation, and he potentially sees it falling apart, but is that an overstatement? >> you hear the president and a lot of democrats accusing this bill of pulling the rug out from people who need health care the most and, you know, republicans have to say, come out and say, well, you created the transfer of wealth in the first place, we are just trying to right a wrong that was created by the democrats.
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and it is true, you know, this new bill repeals taxes that were imposed on the wealthy. it sort of evens the playing field. it phases out the medicaid expansion. but overall 9% of americans, only 9% say obamacare is working. so everyone agrees, almost everyone that the law needs to be fixed. and not just premiums going up, they're not just pointing to drug prices going up, but insurance companies are pulling out of exchanges, more people are relying on subsidies, fewer people are actually paying that fine even though they're forgoing health insurance altogether. and the biggest question here is what happens to insurance markets if things stay the way they are. it's not looking pretty. dozens of costs are at risk of having no insurer in the next year -- neil: you know, i think you're right on a lot of key aspects there. ashley, one of the things that republicans have been, i guess, surprised to discover is that they're getting the blame for the problems with the law the way it is now, and i find that remarkable because whatever you
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think of the measures they've come up in the house and the senate and whatever problems they may face, none of it has come to law. none of its has come to pass. the problems that are out there, the higher premiums, the costs and all that, that's a present law phenomenon. so how is it republicans got tarred with that one? >> had the republicans not been blamed for anything since the president has been elected? absolutely not. are the democrats going to throw tantrums to make sure that nothing that the senate or the house do gets passed? absolutely. it's a resist movement that we're seeing across the board. this bill is going to sink the obamacare ship. of course, he's going to be very unhappy with that. it's going to empower individuals, it's going to give rights to states, and it's going to be probably the biggest shift in entitlements that we've seen since the 1990s -- neil: but it keeps a lot of the obamacare features in there, right? there are some republicans who look at that as if it's a we
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fought like crazy for this? >> it's imperfect, it's an imperfect bill, but it's definitely an improvement upon what we have. you know, right now as she just pointed out, there are so many problems that are basically bankrupting companies, and companies are actually closing down. my own personal doctor left the business because he couldn't operate under these rules. they're going to be offering tax credits, and it's going to be an opportunity for us to pass something that's going to reform and sink the obamacare ship, as i just said, and move forward with something better for our country. neil: do you get a sense if republicans fail at this effort, some of them might vetly be -- secretly be happy about it because we failed, but look what you're left with? >> it wouldn't be pretty they're happy about that, because at the end of the day, this is about americans' health insurance. obamacare is squarely on the democrats' shoulders. so they do have that argument.
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and i think that's why you hear president trump say, look, democrats, work with us on bill. please get behind it. something needs to change. and we have heard some democrats say, yes, we're willing to work with you, but republicans say you're not being genuine enough. i interviewed governor kasich of ohio yet, and he said he hasn't seen a good faith effort by either side to meet in the middle. neil: i think you're right. >> republicans are criticized for doing this too quickly, and i would add there are incentives because insurance companies have to decide in september -- neil: that's right. no, you're right, the reality is, you know, everything hits in the fall. thanks, guys, very, very much. >> thanks. neil: in the meantime, in the light of all these terror developments, a lot of people are not only concerned about traveling anywhere, but even avoiding crowds. even avoiding crowds. here, anywhere. after this. ♪ ♪ [ indistinct chatter ]
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♪ neil: if i were to send you a nasty tweet right now, how quickly would you get back to me? >> usually within seconds. i kind of don't let them lie that much. but you would have to prove -- neil: the entire staff is starting it right now. >> you would have to prove to me that you don't live in your mother's basement. neil: all right. but if you do live in your mother's basement -- anyway, we tweeted, we put this in. we're hearing reports that charlie gasparino still lives, indeed, in his mother be's basement. [laughter] bill tweeting, what is wrong with that? free food and the coolest part of the house. mike tweeting: did charlie go for a run before the interview? well, he says he did. does he demand hot pockets and viewed ca in the green -- vodka in the green room? yes, he does. marty tweeting: followed him for a bit until be i noticed anyone criticizing him was called a dummy. sophomoric. oh, you are so going to be
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hearing from gasparino. [laughter] and if there's a black limousine that stops by your house, that's the guy who's going to come out there. and he sweats. it's whatever. i just want that image to stick with you. [laughter] in the meantime, the supreme court is going to decide maybe any hour, any day on the president's travel ban. connell shane here with the latest on that -- connell mcshane here with the latest. >> reporter: good follow-up, neil. that ability to do so. we're not exactly sure what we can expect. the court has a number of options. they have to decide whether to keep the current objection in place, also look at some broader questions, so we'll try to outline it as best we can. first of all, in short, this is what the administration wants, basically, via the justice department. two things. number one, they have that injunction in place that prevents the ban from taking effect, so they want that lifted. lift the injunction. they'd also like the court to hear, agree to hear oral arguments in the fall looking at the bigger picture, the constitutional issues out there.
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basically, the president's authority, generally speaking, over immigration. so they want both of those things what the court will do is another question. it's where things get complicated on that. remember, the ban on the six countries, the travel ban, is only for 90 days. theoretically, that time frame could expire before all of this is decided which makes just about everything we're talking about a moot point or points. they could put part of the order on hold, they could strike it down altogether, they could decide to hear or refuse to hear the broader constitutional questions. we talked about that part should be decided by the end of the month, we should hear from them on that. as there is a lot to go through here, neil, the big picture does essentially remain the same as it was in the lower courts; is this really a muslim ban. the administration has been saying no all along, but the lower courts have cited those statements by then-candidate trump and his advisers including a press release that called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states.
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that has been the basic question, still is. neil: connell, thank you very much. well, you know, speaking of these fears, there's a new poll out that there's a record number of americans are feeling anxious about travel at all. and furthermore, being around crowds ever. lee has visited every country on this fine planet, he was the youngest to do so, he joins us right now. >> good to see you, buddy, how you doing? neil: all right. what do you make of that? i guess it's not a big surprise, but a lot of folks feel this way. not only am i going to avoid going to europe, any place where there are a lot of people congregating. >> first of all, on the poll it was conducted 1100 random americans, and if less than 50% of americans actually have passports, there's a pretty good chance a lot of the people interviewed wouldn't be traveling anyway. neil: the crowd part would till apply.
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>> of course. but at the same time, as we were just discussing, if you alter your plans can be obviously, be vigilant. but at the same time i'm a big believer that if you change your plans, if you don't travel, if you don't go to a concert, you're in a little bit of your own part letting the terrorists win, and i totally don't agree with that. neil: all right, when you traveled all around the world, it's remark because you say -- remartial bl because you said growing up, you didn't have access. obviously, the more you traveled, the more you were coming and going to dangerous countries. how did you handle that? >> you just be smart, use common sense. just like if you're going in a bad neighborhood or new york or any other big city in america, you just use vigilance -- neil: what's the most dangerous place you went to? >> i actually got shot at, got caught in the crossfire of libyan rebels and chinese smugglers, that was my last country to visit every country in the world, and, you know, i've been to north korea and iran, pakistan, somalia, all
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these lovely -- neil: you've been to north korea as well? >> three days. i spent a birthday there. neil: was there any problems with the authorities? >> at the time, no, what's happened recently is just devastating. neil: but in libya, you obviously got out of that. >> yeah. i got in, and it was a great story, but at the same time, you know, you have to be smart going into these types of countries. obviously, attacks in paris or london or the u.s. will get all the headlines because they're western nation, but at the same time it happens all over the world, and you just have to use the same smarts you would at home. neil: what are those smarts? you know, i had a guest saying watch it with the headphones so you can hear what's going on around you, especially if a truck is barreling behind you, the off chance that happens. what else? >> of course. be aware of your surroundings. pay anticipation. don't text and walk -- pay attention. don't text and walk just like here in manhattan -- neil: everybody texts. >> right. but smart and aware of your surrounders. like you said, that's the most
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important thing. neil: what are you watching? >> listen, look, be aware of people who might be looking at you or talking to you or shouting at you. and if you hear a loud noise or or maybe people screaming behind you, take notice. look. but at the same time, don't put yourself in situations that you're asking for trouble, like don't walk down dimly-lit streets late at night, etc. just be careful and be smart just like you would anywhere. neil: americans feel that they're always targets, when they go abroad particularly, that they're targets. you know, it's legendary that americans were taken captive in colombia and all of this other stuff. things have stabilized there, but are americans targets? >> i've never forget targeted as an american, and i've been to some of the worst honeymoon destinations in the world. but at the same time, i you understand that americans would be targets in certain places. again, a lot of those are where you're not supposed to be. and i don't really think that a
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lot of these terrorist groups are necessarily targeting just americans, they're targeting all western nations as you see with the attacks in europe. neil: right. >> i think with that type of randomness, it could happen anywhere. it could happen on a new york city subway, so you just have to be careful. i don't think it's just an american thing. neil: real quickly, john mccain said no american should be going to north korea x if they do, they have to fend for themselves. if you're that dumb -- i'm paraphrasing -- to go there, you get what you ask for. >> again, it's a horrible thing what happened to that young man that just came back, and i actually have a couple of friends who have recently gone. i went about nine years ago, and it was one of the first trips that they allowed americans to go. i would probably think twice about going now especially with -- neil: would you be safer in a group? he was in a group. >> it's the only way you can go if you're an american. at the same time, with all their missile testing and the issues with china and south korea right now, obviously, i'd probably think twice -- neil: and you have to know the
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culture and how to act. >> well, the culture is you see what they allow you to see, because they only show you -- they take you on routes where they preplan activities. you'll walk through a park and you'll see a wedding, and you can take pictures with the bride and groom. it happens in navy when you're a tourist there. neil: you still like to travel? >> love it. i just got back from costa rica last night. neil: what's the place you least like? >> i like everywhere a little bit. [laughter] neil: you didn't want to put dirt on anyone. not afraid, just using common sense. just be aware, be vigilant. all right, amazon -- it's probably an understatement to say it's on fire, but have you thought about all these amazon-linked companies? if you feel that amazon has already run its court, it can't get much more expensive -- and a lot of people disagree on that -- then maybe all the companies that feed that amazon run, maybe you can benefit from those guys. after this. ♪
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neil: boy, time flies when you're having fun. the brexit vote, one year ago today. a lot of doomsday predictions that markets would go into the tank. well, now the ftse, for example, is at an all-time high, and our own dow's been surging a lot despite the initial fears with the election of donald trump. to nicole nicole petallides on who has benefited the most over the years that the populist waves started with brexit. >> reporter: well, there are plenty of winners, the presidency at a high. don't -- ftse at a high, a lot of those stocks get their sales numbers abroad. so they're not making their money in the united kingdom. how about the u.s. market? everybody was so nervous about presence sit, british exit from the european union. the dow up 19% during that time, s&p 500 15.5% and the nasdaq
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27%. and stocks are looking to clock in another week of gains. the the dow, for example, right now is looking at its fifth strait week of -- straight week of gains. here's a look at part of the issue, and this is the pound. the pound has plummeted, in fact, it moved to 30-year lows, sold off, and with weakness it's brought tourism to the u.k. but big picture that is one area that really has suffered. but stocks, no problem there. don't forget, this is also trump's administration too, so we have multiple elements happening here, neil. financials have done so well here at home, goldman, jpmorgan up 42% and 35% respectively. the banks abroad, terrible. names such as royal bank of scotland, european banks did not do what our banks have done. and we know technology and health care have done so well, but since the british exit that was announced last june, you can see apple up 52% and microsoft a win or. and i toss back to you with that tourism there in the united
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kingdom because the pound is so low has now hit the highest record level since 1961. neil? neil: whoa. that, but that's not surprising then if that's the case. thank you, nicole, very much. well, you know, amazon's been in the news once or twice lately, but there is this view all of a sudden that maybe it's trying to take over the entire world. keep in mind that it's charging $2.8 billion for nfl ad buys, directly selling nike shows on its site, it's got a prime wardrobe thing where you can pick out clothes you want or don't want and return the rest no charge. and a week agoing the whole foods bid announce. back to this notion that amazon isn't hiding it,s it is trying to take over the world, to market watcher john layfield on what he makes of all of that. you look at that and say, all right, well, maybe nikes run far and fast. i can't take advantage of it in amazon's stock, for example, but
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maybe i can in those that feed amazon. what do you think of that approach? and who benefits in that case? >> i think amazon is the one, and i think you're right about this. i'm not sure why there's not a monopoly charge going into amazon that's more prevalent in the world. they do seem to be taking over. when they bought whole foods, you had cvs and walgreens down 5% that day. nike, one of the reasons that nike made this deal, there's 72,000 listings on amazon. they're trying to get rid of a lot of these third party sellers and counterfeit. it really benefits night. ethan allen is another one. amazon is going to get boo furniture shipping -- into furniture shipping. the other ones that are going to benefit is who is potentially they're going to buy next? under armour, kevin cher's? i believe they're trying to get into apparel.
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neil: do you worry, john, when, you know, you always can look at amazon and said, boy, i should have gotten it at 100, 200, 300, 500. so you can always play this game, and it's like chasing a ghost. but that you have more potential bang for the buck looking to the ancillary players attached to amazon's success than amazon itself? >> yes. i agree with that completely. because amazon has gotten so far so fast. i think the next thing they get into is sports. i think they're going to bid for something like the nfl or nba rights similar to what stocks sports did in the '90 -- fox sports did in the '90s. it's tough bid on these ancillary revenues because it's much easier to short them. foot locker are going to get killed by this nike deal. there's not a lot of ancillary bets except for a nike or ethan
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allen. neil: all right, real quick i ask every market guest this question when it comes to how much of a role washington and this progress on the health care or lack of it on tax cuts works into their market predictions. does it? if none of this comes to pass this year, then does john layfield have a different view of this market or what? >> no, not at all. i don't believe it's going to come to pass this year, and i believe that is what most of the market is believing. the biggest thing as far as these big tech companies is the repatriation of money. if these guys can actually get something passed at a decent rate, you're going to see a huge acquisition spree going on, a lot of capital infrastructure spree. that's the biggest thing i think they can get done. i don't believe they're going to get health care done, and i don't believe they're going to get a full, comprehensive tax reform package. they need to pick which choose what they can do, repatuation and probably -- repatriation and hopefully corporate tax rate.
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neil: all right, tesla hitting an all-time high, not the least of reports that a streaming music service could be coming from the company. what to you make of what they're up to, what they're doing, their runup in the stock? what do you think? >> i think he's trying to get vertically integrated. he meaning elon musk. he did that were. neil: you're talking about elon musk. >> you have the factory itself, i'm just not sure why he's going after streaming music for the cars. i just don't think it's a big enough market and why he doesn't just license something with spotify. it seems like a massive start-up for very little return, but elon musk is now beating nasa, so i don't want to bet against the guy. neil: yeah. if he started a streaming service for his rockets, that would have been -- [laughter] >> you've got to have something to listen to on the way to mars. neil: absolutely. we've got some good news to pass along, we're getting word that congressman steve scalise is out of icu.
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>> i hope she doesn't step down. i think that it would be a very, very sad day for republicans if she steps down. i'd be very, very disappointed if she did. i'd like to keep her right where she is, because our record is extraordinary against her. neil: all right. the president's way of saying don't go anywhere, nancy pelosi, even though the democratic leader in the house is under some pressure i said this georgia -- since this georgia and south carolina elections that produced republican victories each though we should
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point out democrats scored more votes in all of these special elections than was the case even last fall in the general election. democratic separate jiu-jitsu jehmu greene says -- strategist jehmu greene says she should stay where she is. garre lapp, your view is someone's got to take the fall. >> they're probably going to fire the coach and the general manager. the bottom line is it's not just a matter of her taking the fall, she is the member of a leadership team that has not been successful over the past few years. she had a time where she had a lot of success, but recently things have gone bad. and as is evidenced by what's going on in the house, there are a number of people in the party losing confidence in her and in the party, and i don't think you can have that and be successful, particularly going into the 2018 midterms. neil: you know, i think a lot of this pile on her is a little unfair, but the general rule of thumb is if your opponents are
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using you and your image as a campaign vehicle against their opponents in race after race, then maybe it is time to go. what do you think? >> look, i certainly agree with that, and i think that nancy pelosi -- if it becomes really understood to her that she is impeding progress of democrats, she would get out of the way -- neil: do you think she wouldsome do you think she would? that her fists wouldn't be clinging to that power? >> in just looking at her success raising money for democrats, it's astronomical. and the fact that trump has not passed any major legislation since he became president, she's clearly doing something right. but at the end of the day, neil, if we are talking so much about kind of inside baseball, nancy pelosi, that's not good for any of the hard working americans out there. i don't want us to be talking about nancy pelosi as democrats. i want us to be talking about
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how this health care option that the senators have given us is going to decimate communities -- neil: but it does get in the way of that message, right? >> it does. neil: one of the things that comes up is whether she is the right person to deliver that message. >> and i think it's greater than just her, because she's had some successful times during her career. but i think a very important point she's raised a lot of money. by what standard does the democratic party measure success? because it's starting to appear that they don't measure success by winning and losing, they measure success by how much money they get from their wealthy donors, and it's starting to appear -- >> that's not true. [laughter] >> -- you have a party that's so feebled by corporate money that they can't be effective in addressing the policies necessary -- neil: all right. well, again, it's always conjecture, but for now she's not going anywhere. we're getting some news that the judiciary committee is now probing loretta lynch and this
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move, apparently, or to investigate whether she was trying to stifle the clinton e-mail investigation. of course, this on the heels of james comey saying when he was testifying on capitol hill that she had told him to refer to what was going on there as a matter, not an outright investigation. he felt uncomfortable with that. jehmu, what do you think of all of that? >> look from what i heard during comey's testimony, i thought in general the attorney general was wrong to make that request of director comey at the time. but the biggest thing that we all should be concerned about whether you're a democrat or republican is how russia tried to interfere in our election. not -- neil: but you wouldn't ignore this, you wouldn't ignore this, right? >> i think that sometimes people make bad decisions. does it rise to the occasion of, you know, hearings on the hill and taking -- neil: jehmu, if this were a republican and this was a charge
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against a republican, you'd be all over it. >> okay. but, neil, in the scheme of things which one is of greater risk to -- neil: both. both are. look at both. you're picking and choosing your problems. >> you're comparing russia's interference -- neil: no, no, no. i just said, i just said -- whether to a messaging request of the attorney general? neil: the ability to look into both. this came up in the course of that investigation. >> when congress starts to adequately look at the interference in our elections from russia, then they can, like, add on these other things -- neil: garre lapp, what do you think of that -- garland, what do you think of that? >> i could not disagree with jehmu more. right now the democratic party is losing because the people -- people who don't have jobs, people who don't, who can't pay their college loans could give a crap about the ukraine and crimea. the democratic party tried that russia, russia, putin stuff and lost the protection. what they need to start doing focusing on our strength which is policies that help the
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working class. jehmu, you're out there in space with that russia stuff -- i actually started this conversation by saying we're all losing by talking about the inside baseball politics of this all, and we need to talk about this health care plan is going to take, rip away health care from tens of millions of americans -- neil: well, you know, there are far bigger issues right now that we're going to get boo, and johnny depp is one of them. and johnny depp is a big story right now. but i'm going to get into that after this. guys, thank you for your insight. >> thank you. neil: after this.
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duck: quack! call to request your free decision guide now. because the time to think about tomorrow is today. >> i think he needs help. when was the last time an actor assassinated a president? i want the claire fire, i'm not an actor. [laughter] i lie for a living. neil: okay. you probably have seen those remarks out of johnny depp, and he's going a little too far here actually referring to john wilkes booth, of course, the actor who famously shot and killed abraham lincoln x. a lot of people are sloughing this off saying that's just what actors do. but does this go too far, especially in this environment and everything that's been happening? gayle, what'd you think of this?
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>> entertainers have a disturbing fixation with assassination fantasies each time a republican is president. you mentioned the history, neil, but i'm not sure that johnny depp knows enough u.s. history to realize that this actually happened in 1865, because if he did realize that, he might have thought twice because his unintended example, abraham lincoln, was one of our nation's greatest presidents, and things didn't end well for john wilkes booth, as you know, neil. neil: still, given all of his troubles and everything that's going on, i know he's had financial problems and other stuff, but what keeps happening is their devotees, people who love these actors whether it's kathy griffin and some of these others, they laugh, they enjoy it, they get a kick out of it. so it's almost the reaction that kind of scares me as much as what they're saying. what do you think?
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>> he's cowardly. so when you think about that, there have been allegations of violence against -- him committing violence against his, wife. and when you think about that in relation to this kind of threat that was put out there, it's not humorous. and i think people on the left are power hungry, they're transmitting that to hollywood and to our entertainers, and the entertainers are just going along with the bandwagon. but they go too far like we saw with the kathy griffin example, like with madonna saying she wanted to blow up the white house. this is, i think, the 11th entertainer who has made these kind of comments. it's not acceptable to say about any american citizen and certainly not about the president, the leader of our country whose charge is to defend the safety of the nation. neil: you just don't say that about anyone, especially after what happened to congressman scalise who fortunate lay --
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forchew naughtily is out of intensive care just now. the white house's response, president trump has condemned violation in all forms. i hope that only of mr. depp's colleagues will speak out against this type of rhetoric as strongly as they would have if his comments were directed at a democratic official. they do raise a good point. if this had been said about barack obama, i think the response would have been a later different. >> well, neil, i'm glad you are covering this because a lot of people don't even know this story. it's going to be mostly ignored by the mainstream media or taken up as a humorous thing. and if it were reversed, it would be wall to wall coverage. you'd have people being asked for comments about it, leading people asked for commentses and there might even be a documentary down the road if it had been a democratic president, for example. neil: you know, eric trump had a chance to sit down with maria bartiromo, and he's been responding to these threats, this is just the latest from
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johnny depp, and these general attacks from the left. i want you to react to -- >> it has to roll off your back. i have a pregnant wife, she's seven months pregnant. if you saw some of the comments that she receives from people, i couldn't even say them, honestly, on the air because they're so ghastly. but they're willing to attack a pregnant lady, an 11-year-old boy meaning my brother barron who's in the white house and at a fragile age. if they're willing to go after my half-sister tiffany, 22 years old who's going to law school, i mean, there is no borders for these people. neil: you know, it's just interesting though, gayle, because there's so many people who say we, you know, the donald trump campaigned as an enthusiast, accuracy, loud, argument tiff and created these fights, but they have been that on steroids and then some in their response to his eventual emergence as president of the united states. they make obvious, but they go to extremes. even what they think are
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humorous death threats to make their angst known. >> there's never a humorous death threat. but i think this is why you see americans are supporting trump, and they love trump because they see what a brave man he is to subject his family to this kind of treatment in trying to do what's right for our country. and i think the important point, neil, is that people who didn't vote for trump or didn't support trump, they see these kinds of unhinged attacks on him, and it makes them sympathetic. he is not backing down, he's going to continue to do what he promised. and i think it has the unintended effect of creating sympathy and support for president trump which will ultimately help him get through his agenda. neil: yeah. it's just sick. it's sick. gayle, thank you very, very much. the point is regardless of whether you like the president or dislike the president, you draw the line at this kind of stuff. because some people act on it. it's weird. it's wrong. it's sick. more after this.
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president signing a bill to protect whistle-blowers at the veterans administration. at 4:00 p.m. today whistle-blower scott davis, a receiver of a lot of nasty treatment both inside and outside dare out speaking against the treatment of our veterans, he will be on 4:00 p.m. see you then. trish? trish: the senate launching an investigation into former attorney general loretta lynch's alleged interphones in the hillary clinton email investigation. just a few weeks ago, former fbi director james comey, testified on the hill that lynch wanted the probe to be called a matter. president trump is feeling optimistic on the senate health care bill. i'm trish regan. welcome to "the intelligence report." the news coming to us, bipartisan group of senate judiciary leaders is seeking details right now about lynch's communications with a clinton aide, as well as documents and information about whether the
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