it's a brilliant title. and it goes a long way toward explaining donald trump's version of the principle 8 powers in the 21st century. good night from new york. kennedy: senate republicans have delayed the vote on their healthcare bill. but what is bet he for republicans? if they vote and it passes or it fails. seattle's experiment with $15 an hour minimum wage is failing and workers are getting the shaft. is non-partisan journalism dead? and might that be a good thing? the cbo score is here. guess what? with the senate healthcare bill now delayed, we are all going to die, but maybe a little more slowly. under the original plan if you make it to 2026 your premiums

would go down by as much as 20%. so really they are still going up but it will feel luke they are going down. it's like having food poisoning after the stomach flu. supposedly 22 million more americans would go uninsured with 15 million foregoing insurance all together because the peopleups are too high. -- because the peopleup premiuo high. high. what's the worst part about this kind of ponzi scheme?

you have to hold a gun to people's head. millions want to opt out of that coercion. but then insurance gets really expensive fit only covers sickos. so republicans are trying to put together another individual mandate. if your coverage lapses you have to sit it out for six months. it's a complete fiasco. so what have democrats been saying about the legislation? >> it's not even a healthcare bill it's a tax cut for the wealthiest americans. >> it's not a healthcare bill, it's a tax cut for the rich. >> republicans cannot excise the rotten core at the center of their healthcare bill. kennedy: the donkeys have no desire to get government out of

the way. obstruction is not an operating principle and propping it up for political gain is no way to fix a system that's dying. obamacare flat lined. do not resuscitate it and put healthcare in a vegetative sta state. i'm kennedy. the white house slamming the cbo score on the healthcare bill saying quote the cbo has consistently proven it cannot predict how healthcare will impact insurance coverage. does the white house have a point? are the cbo numbers inaccurate? and is this why the vote was delayed? joining me, the white house

reporter at the daily beast *. what does the cbo score have to do with the delay. >> it's a baseline we have to measure the effects of legislation. the number of people that might have health insurance. but you see this kind of criticism coming from both side when cbo numbers come out that they don't like. we saw it with the obama white how when obamacare was first making its way through congress. it's not surprising. but mitch mcconnell putting off this vote saying they are going to try to get the cbo to rescore it, they are still paying attention to and putting credence into the cbos numbers. kennedy: does the delay mean the legislation is dead? >> dead, no.

i think it's on life support. at risk of using a healthcare pun, it's in critical condition. they are going to come back after the july 4 recess and try to get some folk on board. you saw folks from susan collins and dean hell tore rand paul and mike lee expressing various objections to the bill. so it's trying to thread a needle while giving conservatives something they can get behind. >> it seems almost impossible to make both parties happy and they don't seem like they are part of the same party. where do we go from here? what happens or the course of the recess? >> you can expect if any members of congress are doing town hall event there will be lots of fun and fireworks going on with those. but leader mcconnell and republican leadership are going to presumably be nose to the grind stone and get the details

of this hammered out. mostly if they have enough time we don't know if the cbo is going to be able to score this again. so they have got a lot of work to do and very little time to do it. kennedy: republicans like mike lee, they are trying to get them on board. both part ideas were unhappy with the thought having to vote on this week. that's not happening. let's talk about mike pence's role here. you say he's the most powerful vice president in u.s. history. do you stand by this statement? >> he's definitely up there. in terms of the white house trying to pursue a legislative strategy. mike pence is doing far more than the president himself is. actually getting laws passed, you have rarely seen a vice president take a much larger role than the president himself.

he's definitely right up there. he's a well liked guy not only among republicans, but his years of service on capitol hill ingratiated him with a lot of folks up there. for political or personal reasons, they don't want to be seen talking to donald trump. so having pence up there -- having dinner with conservative members as he did last night is crucial to the white house being able to get this stuff through. kennedy: donald trump does not speak their dialect. but mike pence speaks the legislative language. maybe that's his most powerful arrow in the quiver, the ability to talk to people in a way a non-politician can't. >> he has legislative experience in congress and as governor of indiana, he has executive

experience. kennedy: do you think pence is a digsing to be president? >> i think he's keeping his head down, remaining loyal. trying not to annoy anybody who night throw a wrench in the works if it comes to that. kennedy: let's take it to my board certified party panel, jessica tarlov, along with national review editor rich lowry,. the delay of the healthcare bill could make an already bad problem worse. 2018 coming up faster than you know. rich, you spent a lot of time talking to republicans in congress. so what are they saying? is the delay surprising to you at all? >> no, it's not surprising.

the delay is better than we heard mcconnell wanted to do, which is have a vote no matter what. if you are a couple one or two votes short, you end up 15 vote short at the end. so if the vote happened friday or saturday it would have gotten 35 votes it's a dog's breakfast of a bill. it's marginally a step in the right direction. it's worth trying to save it. kennedy: that's not enough. take a whack at the pinata. >> i think we need to reform obamacare and i think democrats need to come to the table on that right away. there is an opportunity here. they have to have a healthcare bill.

so beyond the millions of people who will lose insurance whether paul ryan thinks that's just their right to decline is ridiculous. there are medicaid cuts. the numbers show the cuts will happen slower than they would under obamacare. but you have people going off medicaid. and 4 million people on their employers insurance who will lose their insurance. now people getting it through their companies. popular opinion is well against this bill. i think mcconnell was smart to delay it for that reason. the reform package, i don't know what that looks like. when you have susan collins and lisa murkowski who said we are not going to take services away from anyone. and planned parenthood does offer services. kennedy: then the federal government should stay out of healthcare and leave it up to the states. they come from vastly different states who don't want to see

these overbearing regulations. maybe government shouldn't be in the business of healthcare at all. >> i'm glad it will still cover until after july 4 so it will cover people who blow their fingers off with fireworks. government shouldn't be involved in healthcare. i like the idea we are getting to less comprehensive plans and some of them have cutting back. people don't want all that coverage. if you went into a restaurant and said i want a cheese bigger and you said fine, but you will have to pay for everything on the menu. it's ridiculous. younger people of should be able to get streamlined plans. but obamacare doesn't work that way. kennedy: the problem wasn't necessarily with the mandate,

making people sit out for six months if they let their coverage lapse it's with the tax subjects does. >> i think where we have common ground, people should have low premium catastrophic health insurance plans. they pay for the catastrophic illness that is unforeseen. but i think you are going have to subsidize low income people and subsidize the sick. part of problem with obamacare is it puts the sick in a pool with everyone else and charges everybody so they don't want to buy insurance anymore. there is a small population of basically uninsurable people. have high-risk pools and take them out of the system. for everyone else have catastrophic insurance. if you want the maternity

benefit, go for it. kennedy: there should be different times of health insurance like car insurance. a man who never has to worry about paying his medical bills says he has the perfect fix for the healthcare system. warren buffet claims the single payer model is probably quote the best system. he's worth $70 billion maccaroos, so he plus know something about the system. i think it most important thing we can do here is point to a single payer system in this country. this country is unique, and we have the va which has been a catastrophic failure. >> the point is not to provide healthcare. the point is to consolidate

power in washington. that's why it's so hard to re-place this system. it's like a virus has gotten into it. the government isn't good at these things. we need to bring it back closer to where people can mike their own decisions. kennedy: with single payer you will have a buy if you ar -- yoa bifurcated system. >> i lived in the u.k. for six years. i had a breast cancer scare. i went to my nhs doctor. he said you can wait six months or go to harley street where the private doctors are and see someone.

i think in an ideal world we would have a system like that where public education is fantastic. no student debt. we have to look at what we have. we have 320 million diverse people who live in this country. we don't look like sweden or the u.k. i think it's a terrible democrat messaging problem to have both sides of the party coming at this differently where you have one side holding on to obamacare for dear life and the other side saying single payer. >> this is why the senate bill doesn't entirely cohere. so that's a heck of a dilemma. and you have no margin for error. >> it's too narrow. if you give on one side, you will lose on the other.

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kennedy: a tale as old as time. bureaucrats passing a policy that hurts the very people they are trying to help. the city council commissioned a group of diverse economists to study the effects of the law. seattle's minimum wage hike is happening in stages. after raising it from $11 tost 13, low-wage workers saw their monthly take-home pay fall by $113. here to explain why the plans are backfiring is david bose. low-wage workers in seattle are being truly hurt by these do in

gooder experiments. can you explain how minimum wage hurts the lowest wage worker? >> what you learn the first day in an economics class is if you raise the price of something, people will want to buy less of it. we raise the price of sodas and high-fat foods in order to get people to buy less of them. you raise the price of labor, people will tend to buy less. that's what this study found, when they raised the wage from $11 to $13 across the city of seattle, they found low-income workers were losing on average $125 a month. i heard some say that's not that much, but if you are a minimum

wage worker, that's a lot of money. kennedy: that's a full day's work for most people. a lot of these liberal economists and lawmakers tend to rely on a 1994 study that showed the positive effects of minimum wage in the food service industry. is this disproving the 1994 study? >> this is a broader study. it didn't look just at restaurant workers which is what people often look at because it's easy to define. this study tried to look at minimum wage workers across the city of seattle, and they found actually that there was less of a problem among restaurant workers and more of a problem along the larger group of low-killed workers. sow it does assignment many a

better constructed and more persuasive study than the previous one. >> i want you to talk about the long-term effects. obviously employers are getting their employees fewer hours. what are the long-term effects for the city of seattle? >> one long-term effect is if you have a higher min municipal wage in the city then you do in the suburbs or the state next door, businesses will tend to move out of the i where the wages have been pushed above the market and there will be fewer jobs for people who live in that city. but another long-term effect that's very important is nobody ever gets a second job without having a first job. so if you cut off the lowest rungs of the job ladder. if you are a teenager, if you are a high school graduate looking for hour first job, and

employers are not finding you work at $13 an hour in what you can produce, then you may not get that first job. if you have a resume that doesn't show a first job, it's hard to apply for a job and say i learned job skills and now wipe ready for something else. kennedy: which is the point of these entry-level jobs. even though the laws are well-intentions, they end up hurting the people they are supposed to help. the white house delivering a stern warning to syria over the use of chemical weapons. probably not. we'll have that discussion next. okay, i picked out my dream car.

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kennedy: did the trump administration just draw another red line in the sand for syria? the activity are similar to preparations the regime made before it april 2017 chemical attack. as we stated, if mr. assad conducts another chemical attack they will pay a heavy price. typically the state department,

the pentagon and u.s. intelligence agencies would be consulted before such a declaration was issued. joining me now to sort it out, a man who will not be deterred. mike baker. mike, welcome back. >> those are anonymous sources who apparently got their knickers in a twist who are upset because they weren't consulted with. it's speculation on the part of the reporting outlets talking about this, that somehow this was not coordinated within a small group of sensitive intelligence when we are talking about preparations by any country for a chemical weapons attack. so the idea this would be closely held shouldn't surprise a lot of people. at the same time, it also wouldn't be a surprise given past performance if the white

house received these briefings within the intel community and decided to act on it without that broader coordination that some folks seem upset about or that the news outlets are referring to as the main story here. kennedy: "buzzfeed" says they have five defense department sources who are say telling them the same thing. my question is, is this a sign that the white house doesn't trust the state department and department of defense? >> the civilian department of defense and a handful of other government organizations are still staffed at fairly significantly high levels with folks from the previous administration. so the idea that perhaps there are folks in there who aren't aligned with the current administration again isn't a surprise. if this is a self-inflicted wound from the white house, they are slow walking their inability

to if i these various positions. it's a problem of coordination and understanding of how the machinery need to work in washington. this is a continuation of the red line that they established after that early april chemical weapons attack by the assad regime in which we launched 59 missiles at the responsible air base in syria, this an extension of that saying you can't do this. the world frankly agrees, you would hope, that you can't allow it to stand. but way mean is, this should not rattle anybody's cage, the idea we are extending the red lane saying you cannot use chemical weapons against your citizens. the problem seems to be the news outlets reporting this are more

intrigued with the idea of how this is internally coordinated through the administration it's a good thing we are advising assad he can't do this. kennedy: mike baker, thank you so much. president trump has long been hitting back an organization he deems to be fake news. cnn had three journalists resi resign. president trump tweeted, quote, what about cbs, nbc, and abc. what about the failing "new york times" and "washington post"? they are all fake news. what about all the other phoney stories. fake news. politico recently published a saying, an aban don't of the

pretext of objectivity is long overdue. is non-partisan journalism dead? and more importantly is that a bad thing? the party panel has returned. rich lowry, jessica tarlov and joe devito. jessica, what do you make of the cnn resignations? did they jump the gun on their part trying to tag another member of the trump administration with russian collusion? >> they obviously went too far. the fact three well established and well respected journalists. all the coverage i have seen is positive about these pea people and their decade of positive contribution. was it a mistake what they did?

anthony handled it brilliantly. but what i find fascinating about the tweets. it's a break for trump that he gets to talk about fake news instead of healthcare. he says "washington post" fake news, but two days ago he was happy that the obama administration choked on the information we had about russia in august. do you need to pick what your fake news outlets are and stick to them. kennedy: rich, should we give up the pretense of journalistic objectivity? >> i endorse that. "the guardian" does good journalism. the "new york times" does a lot

of good journalism. it's unreitingly hostile to donald trump. there is no sense in trying to pretend otherwise. there is a 20th century model of objectivity that people are disbewholen to and it create a misperception. >> i like how he even put russia in quotes, like is there not even a country called russia. you are making these things up. >> there are plenty of reasons to criticize donald trump. but stop trying to bring your own food to the buffet. it was the obama administration screwed up or they knew and it wasn't worth pursuing. as far as being unbiased. i agree with rich. what i don't like. if you are going to be a

journalist, you don't have to betray your values. otherwise you don't have to be journalists. kennedy: i think that's what most people do. they are making stuff up. >> peter baker has broken stories that hurt donald trump badly and hillary clinton badly. kennedy: some of the coverage of loretta lynch. look back on the obama administration right now, people are kinds of getting bored with the trump pile-on. >> it's such a larger story about what has been going on in washington for decades. kennedy: maybe it's a made-up story because it's fake news. a lovely night. california is claiming one of

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roundup. monsanto is arguing the threshold of harm is arbitrarily low and labels will harm sales. joining me now to sort it, gerri willis. this stems from proposition 65, a 30-year-old statute that allows for labeling. there are 900 items on the list that now have to be labeled. we have a scroll of nearly 950 items on this. it includes some pretty bizarre things including high heels. did you know that's a health hazard. cocaine is not legal. why are they testing cocaine.

kennedy: who is labeling it? monsanto is saying this is not fair, you are not together right kinds of testing. here is the kinds of testing. they have a ridiculously high standard for what can cause cancer. 1 in 100,000 is good enough for them and you have to be exposed every dave your life. one thing you can think about. you have said the law was put in place 30 years ago. you would think maybe people in california have less cancer or don't have as many babies die inutero. not true. they have as many problems at people across the country. they paid bounty hunters to do it.

if you put money out there there are environmental geeks that will turn over everything. that's the enforcement mechanism for proposition 65. people sue companies for non-compliance and they get a cut of the lawsuit. so there is incentive to go out there and meet this ridiculous threshold. there are things like coloring. certain foods like that all of a sudden has a prop 65 label on it. if you get anything that might have a come own end that might some day if you are exposed every day may cause cancer and you get a sticker, the sticker appears so many times it means nothing to you and you don't pay attention to it. >> the health of californians hasn't improved over 3. >> years of this law. this is like a small business program.

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a couple of boaters had a close encounter with that humpback whale. you can tell these guys were a little spooked. watch the breech. look at him. i'm hang with guys jersey. i'm probably going to get stuck in a 6-hour springsteen concert. show some mercy. feed me to the whales. the man who shot his video goes by the youtube handle of wally walnut. first the tsa announced they wanted to screen our reading materials. now they want to screen our shellfish. agents discovered this 2.

>> -pound lobster inside a passenger's luggage rub sac. ruck sack. the guy holding it in the picture now has webbed feet. under tsa rules the lobster would have been allowed to fly if it had been in a plastic container. but because it wasn't, it had to buy a ticket like the rest of us. the lobster doesn't need the cheap thrill of an erotic patdown by the tsa. so i'll take one. mean green charlie sheen is a master of making headlines. a few years ago he had the winning tour. winning, winning. last year he had the testing tour.

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kennedy: quick-tip perked tennis great john mcenroe stepped tonight when he said she was the best female player ever, no question. when asked yes said female, he said if she played the men's circuit she would be 700th in the world. serena was no too pleads. she released a statement saying dear down, i adore and respect

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