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one. bank of america. you like the financials. and as we look at stocks here, 21,992 with just 10 seconds left before that bell rings. [closing bell rings] the dow does not appear to make it 22,000 or above, but it sure wanted to. crossed the line many times. david: green across the screen. buying continues on wall street. the dow is up 130 points. s&p, nasdaq, russell all climbing as well. good day. hi, everybody, i'm david asman. melissa: i'm melissa francis. this is "after the bell." we have more on the big market movers but here is what else we're covering during this very busy hour ahead. president trump calling out hate groups by name in the aftermath of the deadly violence in charlottesville, virginia, over the weekend. ray system is evil and those who cause violence in its names are criminals and thugs including
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the kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacists other hate groups repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. melissa: seems pretty definitive but is it enough to silence critics from both sides of the aisle? david: no. melissa: who demanded this tough talk, from the president since saturday. we have more on all of that. an update from the congressman representing charlottesville, that is tom garrett. plus the president also just announcing measures to protect u.s. innovation and ideas from threatby china. new details coming from the white house. david: we're awaiting a list press briefing any moment from the charlottesville police. new details from saturday's attack. we'll bring you that live when it happens. meantime the dow surging ahead for the second straight day, led higher by shares of visa, apple, microsoft, goldman sachs. let's go straight to lori rothman on the floor of the new york stock exchange. lori, with all the troubles in
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the world, domestically of any concern at all to the traders? >> always lurking in the background but i think, david, fair to say that those tensions with north korea that really came to the forefront last week were pushed to the backburner today especially as investors considered future of financials. financials led this market. ones leading sectors so far this year. the trump agenda pushing for banking and financial deregulation starts to get traction. look at performance of some of the nation's largest banks. bank of america up two and 1/3%. morgan stanley up 1.8%. wells fargo and citigroup up better than 1 1/2% each. look at the vix this is risk on day. the fear is lower in the last two trading sessions. down nearly 20%. investors feeling very optimistic, confident, bullish on u.s. equities. look at story stocks now. the amazon war, amazon taking over u.s. retail.
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look at this. target today, target was up 1.25% as it announces a same day delivery project that they're experimenting with at stores here in new york city to go head-to-head with amazon which shares were up in broadly strong market today, by over 1 1/2%. you know, amazon is kind of cornered the market getting you your stuff pretty quickly. target is taking a page out of amazon's place book. we'll see what happens. david: thanks, lori. melissa: gold snapping a three-day winning streak as tensions seemed to ease a bit between the u.s. and north korea falling 3 1/2 dollars an ounce to end at 1284. here is another look at oil ending at three-week lowdown 2 1/2%. on the heels of a government report showing expectations for shale output to rise this month. look at that. >> good, good. let's hope it getting a little cheaper at the pump. great day on wall street,
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investors fears about north korea starting to fade a little bit. steve cortes, spokesman for hispanic 100, former advisor to the trump campaign, fox news contributor. lenore hawkins chief researcher at thematic can research. in previous administration market was pumped up by air with the federal reserve members blowing hot air. that made investors happen. seems to be pumped up by real bottom line figures. that is a very different kind of market, no? >> david, so glad you asked the question because you are so correct. previously we had central bank, almost a sugar high, right? central bank easing around the world helping markets. now we have the opposite. central banks are normalizing, at least ours is, the fed is, yet we see the market going higher. why? because it believes in real growth. corporate earnings are growing. personals are growing not as much as they need to but they're
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growing. david: right. >> there is real optimism about tangible real growth on the street, not just the sugar high of central banks. david: lenore, it is not just wall street. the journal had a piece about supposedly permanently unemployed, people out of work for 10 years. one guy out of work since 2008. he is back at work today. a lot of people who had given up trying to find a job is back. main street is well, could do a lot better but it is doing better and that's a good thing. >> doing better, for example we look at jobs, since the beginning of the year we had full-time jobs decrease. job gains have really been in part-time jobs and when we look at the stock market, yes, we're seeing move up to higher highs, but really off a handful of stocks and this quarter we saw something very unusual where we saw the majority of companies reporting beat, beat well the expectations for earnings. the average stock price actually
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got hurt as they beat. now that is something you don't normally see, right, when you do well. normally the stock price is rewarded. only two times we've seen this peak in 2000 and peak in 2007. something to pay attention to. david: interesting points. melissa: back in washington, president trump is ramping up pressure on china's trade practices. blake burman is live at the white house with more. blake. reporter: president trump signed a order to cast a specific eye on trade policies. the specific point of contention here is china's theft of intellectual property. >> ambassador lighthiser, you are empowered to consider all available options at your disposal. we will safeguard the copyrights, patents, trademarks, trade secrets and other intellectual property that is so vital to our security and to our prosperity.
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reporter: this opens the door here for the trump administration at some point down the line to potentially invoke a part of the 1974 trade act that could at some point lead to negotiations or possibly even tariffs. the top democrat here in washington in the senate chuck schumer was wholly unimpressed with this those. he sent out a statement a little while ago reads as following, quote, to make announce mane they're going to decide whether to have an investigation on china's well-documented theft of our intellectual property is another signal to china it is okay to keep stealing, end quote. however the chinese certainly taken notice. a state media outlet said this could quote, poison the relationship between the u.s. and china. melissa, by the way here at the white house right now the national economic council is meeting with the president. that includes the trade representative, i am told on top of the agenda there, china, trade and of course tax reform. melissa, back to you. melissa: please, tax reform,
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this is what we care about blake, if we haven't mentioned to you. reporter: you got it. melissa: steve and lenore are with us. when we talk about china, trade policy or intellectual property i think this is tied to north korea. that is what it was in the beginning. another way of putting pressure on china where they care about it, so they are more helpful than they have been with the situation in north korea. am i reading that correctly, or do you think i'm nuts? >> i think that is part of it, melissa of course. but it is bigger than that even. we have near term problems with north korea but we have long-term problems with china. forever, we have treated china, certainly sips the year 2000, by the way as republican i will put as much blame on the bush administration as i would on the obama administration. we have treated china as though we are equal trading partners, when it is nothing of the sort. we have given them the benefit of the doubt on every trading aspect while they have willfully, knowingly on wholesale basis utterly stolen our intellectual property.
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so i'm so proud of president trump to say enough. this isn't real trade. it is not free trade. it is a theft of prosperity from main street to china and we had enough of it. melissa: lenore what is your take? >> craze ski that we allow any theft intellectual or otherwise. we be careful not to shoot ourself in the foot. we when fit from trade. importing goods that are less expensive and benefit from their exports of we have a trade surplus when it comes to agricultural products. >> interesting. david: back to the situation in charlottesville. there is a business hook to this story. a prominent african-american business leading is quitting president trump's manufacturing council in wake of the events in charlottesville. kenneth frazier, ceo of merck, as a matter of personal conscience i feel a responsibility to take a stand
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against into recognize and extremism. the president, saying at that now that ken frazier merck farm that resigned from president's manufacturing council he will have time to lower rip-off drug prices. >> my goodness. david: steve, on one hand you can appreciate personal conscience on this, he is not just doing it himself. he is taking the whole company and all shareholders with him. >> david, listen, i really believe this is the height of hypocrisy. this is what we see too much in america, whether china, obamacare. there is crony capitalist system that exists for its own self-aggrandizement. companies like merck, big pharma has done wonderfully under obamacare. you know who hasn't? patients and doctors. for him to take the moral high ground and say, i'm going to take a stand against president trump who is trying his damnest to break up obamacare and reempower the american people is ludicrous. on top of that, president today
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could to the have been more clear in his denuon syization of racism in every form. david: he was, but some people say couple days late. pharmaceutical companies depend tremendously under government by medicare, medicaid, va, you name it. on the other hand the big question for me, an individual because of his personal conscience should be able to guide thousands if not millions of stockholders who no longer have a seat at table in the white house? >> well, and on that if he hadn't resigned, did that mean trump was going to allow unfair pricing practices? is it just merck ceo is on there? to me i found that a very strange tweet, because he is not backing me up and saying i didn't say the right thing, now i will go after pharma. david: you see what i'm saying? is it conceivable one person
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right of personal conscience to take a company, if you feel that way, resign, get rid of your multimillion-dollar salary give it to somebody else, but the company deserves a seat at the table. they have one now. or they used to have one. they don't because of one person's personal conscience. >> absolutely but i think it gets really complicated because you're dealing with a president who does have rather high disapproval ratings and rather low approval ratings. it gets very complicated when topics of this come up so polarizing as a ceo. david: i don't know. i want to make money period. as a stockholder i want to make money. steve, lenore, thank you very much. good stuff. appreciate it. melissa. melissa: we're still awaiting a live press briefing any moment from the charlottesville police with new details from saturday essential -- horrible attack, we'll bring you that as soon as it begins. david: al qaeda calling on followers to cause great destruction to the western
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economy in the transportation sector. the terror group is providing instructions. you won't believe what they're talking about in a disturbing report coming up. melissa: the president condemning hate groups by name in the aftermath after the deadly car attack in charlottesville. is it too little too late for some conservatives. david: as we're learning new details on the suspect behind the wheel of that deadly plowing into the group of pedestrians there. we're taking a hard look at possible motives and whether james fields, the man on the left, acted alone. a live update from charlottesville, and the congressman representing that district, tom garrett, will be joining us next. >> to anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. justice will be delivered. ♪
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melissa: we're awaiting a live press briefing any moment from the charlottesville police. we'll go to fox news ellison basher with more and what we can expect from the charlotte courthouse and what is coming up. ellison? reporter: the suspect made first appearance before the judge and was denied bond. that could be revisited down the road. the judge recommended he could have a public defender, because the public defender could not represent the suspect, james fields, jr., he had a relative injured in this incident. we're waiting to hear from the police chief later today. this is the first time he has taken questions. we expect to hear a lot from people asking about the response. we heard a lot of people in community criticize the city and police's response to curtail some of this violence as it
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started breaking out on saturday but let me tell you a little bit where i am right now. this is fourth street where the car crash occurred injured 19 people, left one person dead two days ago, this area was covered and surrounded with police tape. now there are flowers. there is teddy bears. there are notes, some of them written on pieces of paper. some of them in chalk on the ground here. most of them mention heather heyer, the 32-year-old that was killed after police say that man, the suspect, james fields, jr., intentionally drove his car into a crowd of people marching against the white supremacist groups that were here in charlottesville. fields is charged with second-degree murder. the 20-year-old as i said earlier made the first appearance before a judge this morning. fields actually could face more charges because the department of justice and fbi have opened up an investigation of their own civil rights investigation. after days of criticism for what some viewed as a weak response from president trump in regards
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to this attack, he condemned white supremacy this afternoon. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. >> friends of the woman killed, heather heyer say they were not part of any official group but they live in charlottesville, and they wanted to speak out against these groups that had come to their town, in their words, preach hate. they said they felt like as citizens they needed to do something. they were completely peaceful, when they heard the car the doll challenger come screeching down this way. melissa: ellisons thank you. david: joining me now by phone, congressman tom garrett. republican congressman from virginia. his district represents charlottesville. our condolences, congressman, it must be an awful day. i'm wondering if the situation is still tense. >> i'm happy that it is not.
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i spent the day in charlottesville. i left a meeting with mayor signer. it is calm. a lot of people are having a difficult time believing this sort of hatred was visited upon this community but, i guess the good news it took recruiting across the entire nation to find enough people who were bigoted hate mongers to descend upon this bucolic community here. they have gone home. the bad news they're everywhere. what i want to do, we need to focus on commonality. david: i'm wondering if all the protesters were outsiders? i know our own doug mckelway who was there at the time, saw people from both sides who had been bused in. was anybody at either side of this rally local? >> no, there were unfortunately local elements. it is, i mean unfortunately this is a pox that knows no geographical boundary. what was sort of mind-numbing to
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me, this number of hate-filled people could get together in concentration as large as it was. good news there are 323 million people in america and 322,999,000 would judge people not based on color of their skin but content of their character. that is what i spoke about with the mayor today. soon to criticize law enforcement. they would stick between themselves and all that would destroy america and what it stands for. we wholeheartedly agree on the central premise that is america, that we're all created equal. we should judge people on content of their character, not color of their skin. instead of both sides trying to score political points right now, we need to tone down the rhetoric and focus what brings us together. david: couldn't agree with you more. the mother of the victim, exactly to your point, heather heyer was the victim, her mother thanked president trump for
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denunciations of the attacks, ones he spoke of today. she said, thank you president trump for words of comfort, for denouncing those who promote violence and hatred. do you think this will end on president trump's reaction to what happened? >> no, it won't. and that is the tragedy. i made the miscalculation of sitting down with one of the fellows who was responsible for organizing thing before i had any idea he was bigoted hate monger. people on internet are calling me and how horrible i am. i know who i am. i know who this nation is. i will lock arms with everyone who is agreement we're above judging individuals based on a character trait that they can't control and that we need to aspire to the greatest, best good of this country as outlined by jefferson and dr. king. this need to be opportunity to come together. i want to say this. i pardon me for throwing a partisan barb. david: go ahead. >> when the vice president of the united states joe biden says and i quote, they want to put y'all back in chains, don't be
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surprised when people take a militant tact. that we need to change the rhetoric on both sides of the aisle. people need to apologize for comments like that and not make them. we need to start taking each other at face value. sit down with our neighbors of different opinions and understand that they're human beings. and that there are fringe elements that would seek to destroy the sacrifice of millions to include dr. king and abraham lincoln, both of whom died in working towards a more perfect union. this country is too good to be brought to its knees by a bunch of bad actors looking for opportunity to do bad things. the fact that is happened in my district is appalling. david: do you think, congressman, that those views are shared by the majority of people in your community? because it certainly seems so many of fomenters of what happened, some were local, appears most of them were these outsiders? >> we know that i have friend in the law enforcement communitys i was prosecutor for 10 years, i know guys who are on the line
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we're all taken aback. i have friends on both sides of the political spectrum, i feel sort of dumb, because i had no idea there were people who believed these archaic things that were able to concentrate themselves in such numbers. there will always be bigots and hate mongers the fact they mustered such numbers in the town but you have the right to assemble -- david: looks as though the police force from charlottesville are about to address the public. thank you very much, congressman tom garrett. thank you for being here with us. >> thank you, david. pray for the victims. david: we will. melissa: awaiting press conference to get more details on the events over the weekend and details we have so far. this is charlottesville chief of police al thomas. let's listen in. >> thank you all for being here. thank you for giving us the opportunity to meet with you to answer questions. i do have some prepared remarks. following the prepared statements i would like to take time to answer questions that you may have as well.
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before i begin, on behalf of every member of the charlottesville police department i want to take a moment to send our deepest condolences to the families of three virginia residents who lost their lives saturday. as you know, charlottesville resident heather heyer was struck down by a vehicle while exercising her peaceful right to speech. the city-stated earlier while it will never make up for the loss of a member of our community we will pursue charges against the driver of the vehicle that caused her death and are confident justice will prevail. the virginia state police lieutenant cullen and trooper bates were working with charlottesville police department this past weekend to protect our community. these men also gave their lives in the line of duty and our gratitude to them can not be overstated. their loss is a loss for us all and we mourn with their families and colleagues. we are working with the heyer
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family to insure that safety of vigils and other memorials planned for this week are safe. we plan to keep the fourth street crossover closed until further notice as there are thousands of flowers lining the street and that is the location of the crash site. we are also establishing a hotline for any victims or witnesses to contact local authorities and provide information that may not have been reported during the weekend. we understand it was a traumatic weekend for everyone. we're still receiving reports of assaults and additional crimes, and we're working with our state and local partners to investigate thoroughly any criminal or civil rights violations that may have occurred this past weekend that have not yet been reported. throughout the entire weekend virginia state police, charlottesville police department intervened to break up fights and altercations among those in attendance at the rally
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site. this began on friday night and continued through sunday. the city tracked approximately 250 calls for service on saturday alone. many of the conflicts, individuals would strike and disappear back in the crowd. state police medics rendered aid to approximately 36 injured individuals on saturday including several of the traffic crash victims on water street. the early morning hours on saturday, virginia state police an charlottesville police were positioned in and around and across the street from emancipation park in order to readily observe and monitor actions of the crowds and respond as quickly as possible when emergencies arose. there were also state and local police on foot patrols, and at road closures at various locations throughout the parks. so we could respond to emergencies occurring beyond the
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immediate area of emancipation park. law enforcement were staged at mcintyre park as well. you can see we had a very large footprint during this entire endeavor. around 10:00 the unite the right attendees began arriving and entering emancipation park. we had a plan to bring them in at the rear of the park. they had agreed to cooperate with the plan. fortunately they did not follow the plan. they began entering different locations in and around the park. we had to quickly alter our plans to help facilitate that process. other groups also began amassing along the street and in the park. gradually the crowd sighs increased along with aggressiveness and hostility of attendees towards one another. shortly before 11:00 a.m. individuals in the crowd began throwing objection and spraying chemical agents into the crowd. city and county made a declaration of local emergency.
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the crowd size became increasingly violent with mutually-engaged combatants with one-on-one attacks following. unlawful assembly was declared, and state police troopers began to safely move individuals out of the park and through the streets. charlottesville police officers were originally on site in everyday uniform. we were again hoping that the members of the alt-right rally would cooperate with our safety plan of ingress and egress. once the violence began to erupt, we transitioned our officers into their protective equipment. we proceeded with an organized response to insure that we could safely restore order in and around the park. no tear gas was deployed on saturday by any law enforcement officers. there were a few instances where the virginia state police deployed oc, or better known as pepper spray on those individuals refusing to comply with the unlawful assembly declaration to leave emancipation park. i would like to take a moment
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and open the floor to questions, if you have have any? [shouting questions. ♪. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible]. >> i'm not sure that information is credible but we yes heard those rumors as well. no one contacted us directly concerning other demonstrations in and around the state. >> [inaudible]. >> i'm not sure whether or not the fourth street crossing was open. i don't have the action plan with me currently but i am certain that the action plan called for the street to be closed. >> [inaudible] >> you guys were there from the beginning, middle of the rally.
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kept two sides separated. why didn't you take a different approach on saturday? >> this is completely different event from the rally on july the 8th of the entire action plan was different. we did make attempts to keep the two sides separate. however, we can't control which side someone enters the park. we had agreements and worked out a security plan, to bring the groups in separate entrances. again they decided to change the plan and enter at the park in different directions. >> [inaudible] >> chief we heard reports that -- [inaudible]. you did not do enough to break up fights, standing around letting people duke it out. some people -- [inaudible] >> we were certainly not intimidated by the firepower of the alt-right, however it was prudent to make sure that officers were equipped to go out and deal directly with the violence at hand.
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originally we had our officers out in their everyday uniform. we were hoping for a peaceful event. we urged leaders from both sides to engage in a non-violent demonstration. once the violence erupted, once the plan was altered, we had to quickly transition our officers into their protective gear. once the unlawful assembly was declared, we requested the state police, mobile field force to deploy in their riot gear and our officers took a position behind them at that point to guard their rear. >> [inaudible] >> no. >> [inaudible].
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>> we did clear the park and we had, once the crowds were dispersed they went to many locations throughout the city. at that time we had to actually send our forces to multiple locations to deal with a number of disturbances in and around the downtown area. we were, it took probably an hour to gain control of the streets. we had groups that were moving constantly. we were following a number of groups insuring that they were being peaceful. but it was a challenge. it was certainly a challenge. we were spread thin once the groups dispersed. >> [inaudible] knowing that both sides were still agitated at that point? >> we have to focus on behavior and criminal activity, not just
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citizens walking in our streets. >> [inaudible]. melissa: we're listening to a press conference here. this is the police chief in charlottesville, virginia, answering some very tough questions from local media about everything that went on there over the weekend, specifically how they allowed people to enter the park different from the plan they had laid out ahead of time. why they weren't prepared for this sort of pushback and situation. you can see a very defensive police chief here as he answers these questions. david. david: some of the questions are hard to answer because they don't seem to be any real answer. joseph jaclone, retired nypd detective sergeant. first of all, our hearts go out to the people there. it was a very difficult situation when you have two armed groups facing off against each other but once you saw these protesters, both sides came with helmets and knee pads, arm pads, the shields, the sticks, shouldn't you at that
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point have stopped was going on or at least tried to get in the middle of these two groups, detective? >> sure. when you have two groups like this that get together, you know it is going to end in violence. they came prepared. they are wearing masks and helmets f you're wearing a mask you're not a protester. you're there to start trouble so you can not be identified. as soon as police saw that equipment being brought in, they had cans of pepper spray, they should have stepped in. i didn't see many police officers and if i did i didn't see zip ties for big mass arrest or demonstrations or huge arrests. david: detective, because they weren't there. our cameras were there. every cable company in america had cameras there at the epicenter, in the park where the general lee statue was. we all knew that is where the action was. the police were not there until hour after fights began. one local businessman, larry engle saying it's a joke. there was no buffer zone between
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the two groups. i mean everybody, including us, business people, protesters knew there would be dust-ups. why weren't the people and police in middle of it? >> this is something going to be questioned for sure. police are form of social control. when this breaks down, everything breaks loose. the police take their orders from the chief, who gets it from the mayor. the police, if they are given vague directions they are not going to do anything. they don't know what they're supposed to do. this is sometimes i think intended by politicians because they don't want to have a dust-up. saw it in ferguson, militarization. the police brutality complaints. they burned it to the ground. saw baltimore get burned to the ground. charlotte get, you know, losses and everything else going on and charlottesville, people say the cops didn't do anything. message is out there. cops are confused. they don't know what to do.
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david: there were permits given for the demonstration. permits given to groups defending the statue staying. once, as we just heard from the police chief, they apparently violated the terms of that permit, at that point, can you not withdraw the permit and cease the protests? >> well, absolutely. this is hammered out generally during the details of the permit. one of the things on the permit, you're not allowed to carry torches or anything else like that. >> let alone, automatic weapons. >> as soon as they started not following directions going into the park, this is the police's job to control that flow of people. if they're refusing to do so you have to take action. that is what people are for. david: detective, thank you for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to
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everything we hold dear as americans. melissa: so you heard it. that was it. the president condemning racism, violence. kkk following major criticism for not calling out groups by name sooner after the protests in charlottesville. here to respond former republican governor tim pawlenty of minute sew. what do you think about this? is it fair to criticize the president in this instance? >> yes, better late than never, but the fact remains that statement, although good and on point was late, and that is a statement should have been made right after the incident. melissa: why do you draw such a contrast what he said in the first place and what he said now? it is critical that he individually name the groups? i mean they know exactly who it was make sure you include everybody? as devil's advocate, wondering if you make a laundry list of names you leave some out you get criticized for that. >> the groups assembled there, most were widely known, in one case as white supremacists as an example.
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when you see evil, when you see hate mongering it is important to identify it, identify by name and denounce it timely and aggressively. melissa: us did it make sense to focus on this as the issue behind what is going on? do you think it is root of the problem, and causing the problem or should we be looking elsewhere? >> well, certainly the leadership from the president and the tone at the top matters but in terms of root causes obviously this goes back a long ways, has a lot of other component parts to it but as nation now, and certainly we should have for many, many decade and forever before this, denounced white supremacy, racism, hate mongering, and that is not an even a difficult call. that should be easy call, particularly for public leaders. melissa: when you look at the organization of protests all around the country that have been turning violent, this obviously stands out above the others but we have seen so many protests that are well-organized and seem to be organized for
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violence where people are showing up with weapons. how, why is this happening? how is it continuing? what can we do to stop it? >> it shouldn't happen. just as an example i was at the trump inaugural in 2017 earlier this year. there were people there with masks, with batons in their hands that were anarchists and, once you have the rule anything goes, pretty soon it does. you have to have police and other law enforcement keep order. the ability for certain groups to pressure police or police to not act or be afraid to act or not willing to act as aggressively as they should is troubling development. melissa: what do we do about that piece of it? a lot of things need to change within this whole story. we listened to the press conference of the local police chief. the way he outlined it, at very least they were clearly not prepared for what happened, even though it wasn't spontaneous. there was these, they had a permit. there was lot of lead-up.
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we heard moments ago they violated terms they had agreed to on the ground. it took a very long time before police got mobile and got in between. as a former governor, how do you fix something like that? >> well i think, again the men and women who serve in law enforcement and first-responders we want to make sure we give them the benefit of the doubt and applaud and what they do, just on that press conference, once that group didn't comply with the agreement that was established ahead of time, there should have been a response to that. law enforcement response. why when you're dealing with these kind of groups did it take to change into the type of gear it would take to restore order. the fact they were there in plain clothes hoping it would be peaceful, but knowing that these groups and counterprotesting groups would be likely violent, especially they showed up with instruments of violence in their hand, seems like a miscalculation to say the least. melissa: governor, this goes back to that same thing. we heard this argument flipped around the other way, because the police arrived in riot gear,
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they provoke ad riot, because they looked aggressive and looked confrontational with crowd and it was their fault that the crowd got out of control so there is some portion, they feel like they can't win either way. >> you have to err on the side of capacity to restore order because once you lose that line, you see what happens. saw it happen in baltimore. you saw it happen in ferguson. melissa: yeah. >> you have to err on the side of capability and capacity to maintain and restore order. otherwise like you said if the rule is anything goes, pretty soon it does. melissa: tough times. everyone all around we applaud you for coming on to talk to us. it is not always safe. appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you. david: very disturbing news from oversea. french media outlets reporting at least one person killed, five others injured after a car plowed into customers at a pizzeria. this is in a small town east of paris. french police say the victim is
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8 years old and they are calling this an intentional act. the driver has been arrested. we will bring details, more of them as we get them here. melissa: unbelievable. plus taking a stand against north korea, the united states gearing up for all possible outcomes with the rogue regime. lieutenant-general thomas mcinerney is weighing in after the break. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. the toothpaste that helps prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse.
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melissa: the u.s. keeping very close eye on north korea as general joseph dunford a top military official, saying that the united states is militarily ready if provoked. we have thomas mcinerney, fox news military analyst. in terms sanctions, following along with what has been prescribed all along, how much faith do you have in that? >> i think it is good, melissa, but it is not good enough.
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the fact is they created north korea. they helped create and build its nuclear capability. so we have got to be very careful that they think that is all they can do. if we're serious, we'd start putting economic sanctions on china as well. melissa: yeah. i mean, how, what kind of time constraints do we have here in your opinion? some people that you talk to today on this issue, say, well the best we can hope for is sort of where we are, just to continue pressure them to try to pressure china, keep them in control, not going to give up his weapons, some sort of military action which would be catastrophic and that this is the best we can hope for. what do you think of that conclusion? >> i don't like that conclusion. that is basically what susan rice said last week in a "new york times" article. we can not accept a nuclear north korea because it is a
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nuclear proxy, proxy for china, which means they could strike us, china could observe, the missiles that could get through would terribly degenerate our economy, and then, they would be smiling because we would be a third world nation. that is no longer acceptable. it is the same thing with iran and russia. so, these iran and north korea, are nuclear proxies for russia and for china. no longer acceptable. melissa: you talk about the missiles that might get through, i think a lot of americans are under the impression we could protect and intercept anything that came our way. certainly when you hear interviews with people on guam, they think that they're safe. what's your assessment of our, how ready we are for both intervention and, you know, defense? >> well, i think if we could do 80%, maybe 85%, we're going to do very well.
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and my experience in missiles, melissa. and i think, now they may do better, don't misunderstand me, but it doesn't take many to get through to devastate our economy, and that's is what we've got to realize. that is why a nuclear north korea and iran is not acceptable. now the next step, you will say, well we may have to go to war. we may have to go to war. this is president trump's cuban missile crisis, because it will change the balance of power. that is a separate issue, but we may have to and we must understand that we can not accept a nuclear north korea and iran. melissa: general mcinerney, thank you. appreciate your time as always. thank you, sir. >> thanks, melissa. david: sobering thoughts all day, sobering thoughts. meanwhile president trump is heading back home to trump tower tonight but not all new yorkers are planning a warm welcome homecoming for the commander-in-chief. details to come. ♪
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david: president has had a very busy day. he is getting ready to depart washington for new york city for just the second time since the inauguration as protesters are starting to take their places already outside of trump tower, particularly in light of what happened over the weekend. adam shapiro is live outside of the president's building in manhattan. adam, a lot of dump trucks there, right? reporter: i'm here. david: okay. you're on the air live, adam. we're looking at you in front of the dump trucks. tell us what you see. reporter: want you to take a look, these dump trucks came here about noon today. you don't usually see this in security for the president. this is set up today because there are several protests which are planned to start at
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5:00 p.m. now, one protest, gathering is taking place at new york public library. that is at 48th street, 47th street. they will come up fifth avenue. the other protest is starting at 59th street, and it is coming this way. 5:00 protesters gathering, if there is any way, frank, swing around. we see people coming back and forth on the sidewalk. what the nypd has done, they're keeping two lanes of fifth avenue open. so they're keeping protesters on the sidewalk. you see this gentleman here with a sign says, no, no, we want humanity. we refuse to accept a fascist america. you see a ton of those signs. those people are gathering up on 59th street. they will march on down this way, the police right now are planning to keep them on the sidewalk and not allow them on fifth avenue. i want to show you one more time, fifth avenue with the buses, you can hear, do not assistant in one spot. everybody has to move up and down the sidewalk, but they're
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keeping believe it or not fifth anticipate open, just two two lanes, but fifth avenue will be open. very calm, protesters going up and down the sidewalk. gathering at 59th street and the public library. melissa: adam, i love the facism sign, because facism these days is in the eye of the beholder, in terms of protesters are they letting them march through the center of the street? what is the thought behind that? are they going to come up sidewalks? can you hear me? reporter: someone talking to us? david: it was a good picture anyway, when he had something to say about it. we'll see. i guess there are back entrances. melissa: there are back entrances. the dumb trucks were out there christmas as well. it was tough at first. they figured out how to get things rolling along. what are you going to do? that is his home. he has right to go there. david: name is trump, on the
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building, president of the united states. i don't think there is vip more important than that in new york city. meanwhile? melissa: the entire state of california suing the justice department. details after this break. an be . especially for my precious new grandchild. it's whooping cough. every family member, including those around new babies, should talk to their doctor or pharmacist about getting vaccinated.
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taxpayer dollars to sue the federal government over their unwillingness to enforce federal law. david: your former home state. could you live there again? melissa: well, i don't know. anything's possible. david: it's a beautiful place. melissa: true. that does it for us. risk and reward starts right now. trump: racism is evil. and this who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs. including the kkk, neonazis, white supremacist, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. liz: president trump addressing charlottesville are head-on, directly calling out white supremacist, neonazis and the kkk, calling them evil. and major embassies ended the day in the green. the dow up above 22,000 earlier in the day but closing just shy of the mark. still up 145 points.

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