i signed a new executive order to nation's badly broken infrastructure permitting process. blogs away is the empire state building. it took 11 months to build the empire state building. but today, it can take as long as a decade and much more than that. many, many stories where it takes 20, and 25 years to just get approvals to startç construction of a fairly routine highway. highway builders must get up to 16 different approval involving nine different federal agencies, governed by 29 different statutes. one agency alone can stall a project for many, many years, even decades. not only does this cost our economy billions of dollars, but it also denies citizens safe and modern infrastructure they deserveç.

>> want to show you this. i think i am going to show show it to the media. both real an fake media by the way. this is what it took takes to get something approved today. elaines you see that. this is what it takes. permitting process. that is a flow chartç. seven teen years. i could have built it 4 or $5 million without the permitting process. it costs hundreds of millions of dollars but it took 1years, to get it approved and many, many,

many, many, pages are environmental impact studies. this is what we will bring it down to. this is less than two years. this is going to happen quickly. that is what i'm signing today. this will be less than two years for highway. it is going to be quick. it is going to be very streamlined process, and by the way, if it doesn't meet not going to approve it, very simple. we're not going to approve it. this is maybe, this one will say let's throw other one away. would anybody like it from the media? would anybody like the long beautiful chart? you can have it. so my executive order, also requires agencies to work together efficiently requiring one lead agency, for each major infrastructure project. it also holds agencies accountable if they fail to streamline their review process. so each agency is accountable.

we're going to get infrastructure built,ç quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking, and permitting process and working very, very quickly. no longer tolerate one job killing delay after another. no longer will we accept a broken system, that benefits consultants, and lobbyists at the expense of hard-working americans. now i knew the process very well. probably better than anybody. i had to get permits for this building and many buildings, all of the buildings i built in manhattan and many other places. and, i will tell you that the consultants are rich people. they go around making it very difficult, theyç lobby congres, they lobby city governments, they lobby state governments, so that you have to hire consultants and take years to pay them a fortune. we're streamlining process so we won't have that process anymore.

no longer allow the infrastructure of our magnificent country to decay. we'll build gleaming new roads, bridges, roadways, railways, tunnels and highways. we will rebuild our countries with american workers, american iron, american aluminum, american steel. we will create millionsç of new jobs and make millions of americans dreams come true. our infrastructure will again be the best in the world. we used to have the greatest infrastructure anywhere in the world. and today we're like a third-world country. we're literally like a third-world country. our infrastructure will again be the best. and we will restore the pride of our communities and our nation. and all over the united states we'll be proud again. so i want to thank everybody for being here. god bless you, god bless the united states and if you have

any questions,ç we have, mick, you can come up here please. come on up. mick mulvaney. if you have have any questions, please feel free to ask. >> why do you think the ceos are leaving your manufacturing council. >> because they're not taking their job seriously as pertains to this country. we want jobs, manufacturing, in this country. if you look at some of those people that you're talking about, they're outside of the country. they're having a lot of their product made outside of. if you look at merck, as an example, look, excuse me. look where their product is made it is made outsiduç of our country. we want products made in the country. now i have to tell you some of the folks that will leave, they're leaving out of embarassment because they make their products outside and i've been lecturing them, including the gentleman that you're referring to about you have to bring it back to this country. you can't do it necessarily in

ireland and all of these other places. you have to bring this work back to this country. that is what i want. i want manufacturing to be back into the united states so that american workers can benefit. >> why did you wait so long -- >> i didn't wait long. i didn't waitç long. i didn't wait long. i have wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians that what i said was correct. not make a quick statement. the statement i made on saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement but you don't make statements that direct unless you know the facts. it takes a little while to take the facts. you still don't know the facts and it is a very, very important process to me. it is very important statement. so i don't want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. i want to know the facts. if you go back to my, in fact i brought it. i broughtç it. >> [inaudible]. >> i brought it.

>> what did you bring? >> as i said, remember the saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. it has no place in america. then i went on from there. now here is the thing, as-excuse me, take it nice and easy. here is the thing when i make a statement i like to be correct. i want the facts. this event just happened. in fact a lot of the event didn't even happen yet as we were speaking. this event just happened. before i make a statement, i need the facts. so i don't want to rush. >> a statement. soç making the statement when i made it was excellent. in fact, the young woman i hear is a fantastic young woman, it was on nbc, her mother wrote me and said, through, i guess twitter, social media, the nicest things. i very much appreciated that. i hear she was a fine, really

actually, an incredible young woman. but her mother on twitter thanked me for what i said. honestly, if the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what i said was very nice. but unlike you and unlike, excuse me,ç unlike you and unle the media, before i make a statement i like to know the facts. [shouting questions] they don't. they don't. they don't. >> how about a couple of -- how about a couple of infrastructure questions. >> was that terrorism? >> say it, what? >> ceo of walmart missed opportunity to brit country together. did you. >> not at all. you take a look. i have created over million jobs since i'm president. the country is booming of the stock market is setting records. we have the highest employment numbers we ever had inç the history of our country.

we're doing record business. we have highest levels of enthusiasm, head of walmart, who i know, is mice guy, making a political statement. i mean -- do it the same way. you know why? because i want to make sure when i make a statement, that the statement is correct. and there was no way, there was no way of making a correct statement that early. i had to see the facts unlike a lot of reporters who -- unlike a lot of reporters. i didn't know david duke was there. i wanted to see the facts. andç the facts as they started coming out, were very well-stated. in fact everybody said, his statement was beautiful. if he would have made it sooner that would have been good. i couldn't have made it sooner because i didn't know all of the facts. frankly, people still don't know all of the facts. it was very important, excuse me, excuse me. it was very important to me to get the facts out and correctly.

because if i would have made a fast statement and first statement was made, without knowing much other than what we were seeing. the second statement was made after, with knowledge. with great knowledge. there is still things that,ç excuse me, there are still things that people don't know. i want to make a statement with knowledge. i wanted to know the facts. okay. [shouts questions] >> two questions, was this terrorism? can you tell us how you're feeling about your chief strategist? >> i think driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and this country. and that is, you can call it terrorism. you can call it murder. you can call it whatever you want. i would just call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict, that is what i call it. because there is question, is it murder, is it terrorism. you get intoç legal semantics. the driver of the car is murderer, and what he did was a

horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing. >> can you tell us how you're feeling about your chief strategist, mr. bannon. >> i would echo her question. >> i never spoke to mr. bannon about it. >> do you still have confidence? >> we'll see. i like mr. bannon. he is friend of mine. he came on very late. i went through 17, senators, governors, i won all the primaries. mr. ban con came on very much later than that i like him. he is a good man. he is not aç racist. i can tell you that. he is a good person. he actually gets a very unfair press in that regard. but, we'll see what happens with mr. bannon. but he is a good person and i think the press treats him very unfairry. [shouting questions] >> called on you to defend your national security advisor h.r. mcmaster? >> i did it last time. >> he did it again -- >> senator mccain, senator mccain, you mean the one voted

against obamacare? you mean senator mccain who voted against us getting good health care? >> senator mccain said that the alt-rightç is behind these attacks and he linked that same group to the traded attacks in charlottesville. >> i don't know. i'm sure senator mccain must know what he is talking about. when you say the alt-right, define alt-right to me. you define it. come on, define it. >> senator mccain defined them as same group. >> what about -- excuse me, what about he alt-left that came charring at, as you say the alt-right, do they have any semblance of guilt? let me ask you this? what about the fact they cameç charge, they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? i think they do. as far as i'm concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day. wait a minute. i'm not finished.

i'm not finished fake news. that was horrible day -- >> protesters on same level as -- >> i will tell you something. that i watched this very closely, much more closely than you people watched it and you have, you had group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. nobody wants to say it. i will say it right now. you had a group, you had a group on the other side that came chargingç in without a permit d they were very, very violent. [shouting questions] >> go ahead. >> you think, what you call the alt left is same as neo-nazis. all of. >> all of those people. i condemned neo-nazis. i condemned many different group, but not all of those people were neo-nazis believe me. not all of those people were not white supremacists by any

stretch. those people were also there they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of robert e. lee. so, excuse me, andç you take a look at some of the groups, you see, and you know it, if you were honest reporters which in many cases you're not but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. this week it is robert e. lee. i noticed that stonewall jackson is coming down. i wonder is it george washington next week and is it thomas jefferson the week after? you really do have to ask yourself where does it stop? but, they were there to protest, excuse me, you take a look, the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee, infrastructure question. to ahead. >> sttée of robert e. lee, stay up? >> i would say that is up to a local town, community, or the federal government depending where it is located. >> are you against the confederacy? >> race relations in america. do you think things have gotten

worse or better since you took office? >> i think they have gotten better or the same. they have been frayed for a long time. you can ask president obama about that he made speeches about it. but, i believe that the fact that i brought in, it will be soon, millions of jobs, you see where companies are moving back into our country, i think that will have tremendous positive impact on raceç relations. we have companies coming back into our country. we have two car companies just announced. we have foxconn in wisconsin just announced. we have many companies, i say, pouring back into the country. i think that will have a huge, positive, impact on race relations. you know why? it is jobs. what people want now, they want jobs. they want great jobs with good pay. and when they have that, you watch how race relations will be. i'll tell you, we're spending a lot of money on inner cities. we'll fix, we're fixing inner cities. we're doing far more than anybody's done with respect to

the i amer cities. it's a priority for me. and it is veryç important. >> mr. president, are you putting what you call the alt-left and white supremacists on same moral plane. >> i'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. what i'm saying is this, you had a group on one side and group on the other, came at each other with clubs. its with vicious and horrible. it was a horrible thing to watch. but there is another side. there was a group on this side, you can call them the left, you just called them the left, that came violently attacking the other group. so you can say what you want but that is the way it is. [shouting questions] >> you said there were hatred and violenceç on both sides. >> i think there is blame on both sides. you look at both sides. i think there is blame on both sides. i have no doubt about it. you don't have any doubt about it either. and, and if you report ited accurately, you would say it.

>> he killed a person. >> charlottesville -- >> [inaudible]. you have some very bad people in that group. but you also have had people that were very fine people on both sides. you had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me. i saw the same pictures as you did. you had people in thatç group that were there to protest, that taking down of, to them a very, very important statue, and then renaming after park from robert e. lee to another name. george washington was a slave owner. was george washington a slave owner? so will george washington now lose his status? are we going to take down, excuse me, are we going toe take town, are we taking down statues to george washington? how about thomas jefferson? what do you think of thomas jefferson? you like him? >> [inaudible] >> are we taking down statue. he was major slave owner. are we going to take down hisç

statue. it is fine. you're changing history. you're changing cult you are. you had people, not talking about the neo-nazis white nationalists because she should be condemned totally but many people in that group other than that neo-nazis an white nationalists, okay? and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. now, the in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. you had a lot, a lot of bad people in the other group. >> you were saying theç press treated wheat nationalists unfairly. >> no. people in the rally, you look night before, there were people protesting very quietly. the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. i am sure in that group there were bad ones. following day looked like they

had some rough bad people, neo-nazis, white nationalists whatever you want to call them. but you had a lot of people in that group were there innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know, i don't know if you know, they had a permit. the other group didn't have a permit. so i onlyç tell you this, there are two sides to a story. i thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. a horrible moment. but there are two sides to this country. does anybody have a final, does anybody have, you have a infrastructure. >> what making us i this you get infrastructure? you didn't get health care. >> we came close to health care, unfortunately john mccain voted against it at last minute. you have to talk to john mccain about that. we will end up getting health care. we'll get the infrastructure. infrastructure i think we'll have bipartisan support on. i actually thinkç democrats wil go along with the infrastructure.

>> mr. president, have you spoke to the family, have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car -- >> i will be reaching out. >> when will you be reaching out? >> i was very, i thought statement put out, the mother's statement i thought was a beautiful statement. i would tell you, it was something that, i really appreciated. i thought it was terrific. and, really under the, under the kind of stress that she is under and the heart ache she is under, i thought putting out that statement to me was really something. i won't foreguesstimate thank you all very much. thank you. thank you.ç [shouting] >> do you plan to go to charlottesville, mr. president? >> i own a house in charlottesville. >> when will you go. >> does anyone know i own a house in charlottesville. in charlottesville. you'll see. it is winery. i know a lot about charlottesville. charlottesville is a great place that has been very badly hurt over the last couple of days.

i own, i own actually one of the largest wineries in the united states. it is in charlottesville. [shouting questions ♪ >> what do you thr done to overcome racial divide? >> job, creating johnson, sub stoppingly more than a million. -- jobs substantially. if we create jobs at levels creating jobs, i think that will have tremendous impact, positive impact on race relations. >> what you said today, how do you think that will impact the racial -- >> because people will be working. making a lot of money. much more money than they ever thought possible. that will happen and the other things, very important, i believe wages will start going up. they haven't gone up for a long time. i believe wages now, becqu"t economy ising do so well with respect to employment and unemployment, that i believe wages will star to go up.

i think that will have tremendously positive impact on race relations. [shouting questions] >> mr. president? melissa: we never know if he is coming back, because he is leaving the stage a couple times here. david: wow. melissa: we want to make sure it was done. that was en fuego. david: unrestrained. that was a new york moment, as opposed to a washington, d.c., moment. frankly the way people talk here. a lot of people don't like new york. new yorkers are pretty frank. i don't think i have ever seen him more frank he was today.ç not at least as president. melissa: frustrated. supposed to be about rebuilding america. president trump looking to revitalize our nation's infrastructure, signing a new executive order which he did at the beginning, emphasis on a lot of things that can make a big difference in the economist. streamlining the process. david: that was interesting. melissa: president coming out swinging after that response to his criticism of comments after

charlottesville and future of white house's steve bannon. that was in there as well. that was packed. i'm melissa francis. >> 22 minutes, 50 seconds past the hour, so glad you could join usç this is "after the bell." fox business's blake burman outside of trump tower in new york with details. one word, blake, wow, did you expect that? reporter: this was supposed to be a talk about infrastructure, but let's skip past all of that right now. david: yeah. reporter: none of that is really in the forefront after the president's comments. just a little while ago, what you just saw played out live. let me give you backstory. we were expecting a statement from president trump. he ended up taking questions and majority of questions as you just watched there were on charlottesville and president's response. on saturday he came out gave a response which he was harshly critical not s(cificallily naming kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacists. fast forward to 48 hours later, yesterday at the white house the

president specifically named the groups, condemning bigotry and hatred like on saturday. he specifically named groups. fast forward 24 hours, what you watched live behind me. the president was asked why he waited so long to specifically name those groups? the president's defense the president's reason was this. he said on saturday he didn't have all the facts. on monday he did. and that is why he gave the statement on monday versus saturday that he did. here was president trump aç little while ago defending himself. >> i didn't wait long. i didn't wait long. i didn't wait long. i wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what i said was correct. not make a quick statement. reporter: now the president though from there got, you know, at least elicited more questions on this topic really than he gave answers. because he ended up saying after that, that quote, he said i think there is blame on both

sides and i don't have any doubt about it. the president was also asked about the alt-right and then he threw out the term theç alt-le, suggesting with that, and the quote that i just read to you, quite possibly there is blame on both sides of the equation here. as you know the president talked about on many sides on saturday which short of started this whole firestorm to begin with. then, david and melissa he talked about the statues of robert e. lee, and stonewall jackson, two leaders of confederacy during the civil war. asked whether or not those statues, whether the statues of george washington and thomas jefferson, revered u.s. presidents should be taken down as well? he asked where is the line going to be drawn from there? the president was followed up on that by a reporterç several questions later asked, what exactly did you mean about that? and the president said, well, george washington was a slave owner. thomas jefferson was a slave owner. should their statues come down as well.

he was also asked about steve bannon, his chief strategist, who many, like nancy pelosi and several democrats today called for firing as they believe that there is a direct line between steve bannon who was once of "breitbart news" and this alt-right movement. the president was asked whether or not steve bannon should go. he was asked whether or not he is a racist. he said quote, he is not a racist. he is a good person. there is whole lot of infighting within the white houseç now. the president said we'll see what happens with him. bottom line here, david and melissa, this charlottesville story, specifically the president's reaction to it, not going away anytime soon, with the president on this day saying he just wanted to know the facts but there is blame to go around on both sides. i'll send it back to you. david: okay, blake. yeah he was fighting back, there is no doubt. bring in today's panel. gary kaltbaum from kaltbaum capital management, fox news contributor, veronica daguerre from the "wall street journal,"

charlie hurt, "washington times." fox news contributor. new yorker, a new yorker who had been sat on and pent up just been ready to burst and he did burst. the pipes were open. and he let it fly. he let it fly being called a racist and about the people in his administration being called a racist. from the mother of the woman who was killed, so despite all the rhetoric that he was, he was defending the wrong people and in fact the mother of the woman who was killed said that he did a good job what he said yesterday. he was, it was just no-holds-barred. he went for it. >> he really did. you know, for 10, 20, 30ç years in washington conservatives and republicans get, they get cowed into a corner every time liberals or democrats accuse them of being racists. there is no evidence of it whatsoever. just use the word. david: right. >> they run away. >> that is, charlie, just as

incendiary calling somebody a communist in the 1950s. has the same effect. >> absolutely, absolutely. for the first time in my years covering politics in washington, here is a guy who is going to stand up say, no, screw you, you're wrong. i'm not. and he takes it back to them. that is why america despises the press even more than theyç despise politicians. it is why, it is why donald trump is president. david: veronica, i got to say, what he was there to talk about, the infrastructure was pretty impressive. when he unfurled that banner of all the various regulations and things that prevent good work from being done, how he would cut that by more than half, he could have stuck with that alones right? >> he could have. so the good part about this press conference we heard him take questions. we heard a little bit about infrastructure but the bad part is, we didn't hear enough about infrastructure. we don't know enough details. we saw the great visual but

beyond that, what are the details? what isç in that plan. how is he about going to the get done and how he will get it through congress. david: gary, the question we ask ourselves whether all this stuff interferes with the important stuff that will change our economy and get it really could being where it should be cooking. what do you think? >> of course it interferes. to this day we still don't have any health care reform. we still don't have tax reform. they're just talking about the infrastructure. and let me just say this. we've all known for very long time to build a highway, to fix a street, take as permit on top of a permit on top of a permit. seven years later it may get started. so it is goodç news. he also does care about costs. that is something that government hasn't cared about in a long time. david: cared about but knows about it. knows about it from personal experience as a builder. >> the two words, fast track, is very meaningful. the same thing should go for the fda by the way mention one other thing. david: quickly.

>> i remember bush getting hit like this, never said a word. what a difference president makes. he is fighting back right or wrong. david: totally difficult character. gang, stay with us. we'll come back to you. we have a special guest right now. melissa: i want to bring in alveda king, fox news contributor. niece to dr. martin luther king. can i get yourreaction to what i heard there? >> hello, melissa, hello to everybody, fox audience, very important, don't forget about the infrastructure. that will be very important. president trump is right. infrastructure is important. jobs will solve some of these problems. he is right about that. there is over a million jobs already created. however, i listened to all of the president's remarks. i was very inspired. my uncle dr. martin luther king, jr. once said we must all learn to live together as brothers, i added sisters or parents as. here in the 21st century president trump was following something i learned in the king family legacy in the 20th century, ynç the 1960s.

get your facts. educate your public. examine your own heart. negotiate, and then if you have to peacefully protest, do that you will get to non-violent, peaceful reconciliation. so he was right when he made his first remarks. cease-fire. stop all the violence. just stop it. he examined all the facts. he began to point out where the evil is, and it is still seeded in violence. he is very correct with that. he has continued to say no matter what color our skin is, our blood is red. americans need to work to haveç money, to deal with their spiritual lives, their social lives, to learn to love and respect each other. so his points are right on as far as i'm concerned. melissa: what he said there is blame to go around on both sides, already i saw people on social media he blames both sides equally. i never heard him say equal. i don't know if you can measure.

>> he said there is fault and blame on both sides. alt-right, alt-left, all that kind of thing, but stirring up chaos and agitation you see? where you find the alt-right, for example, with the ku klux klan and everybody, we know that on the alt "black lives matter," they throw firebombs and curse people out, do that kind of thing. if you have two groups yelling and cursing inciting everybody to be unrest, somebody has to say what president trump is saying. cease-fire. think. and we have to pray as well. when we pray, god anticipates from heaven. so i believe president trump has remained on track from day one. we've watched promises that he made. let's not let the infrastructure issues slide away. i want to commend him for working on the infrastructure as well. melissa: wow. great thoughts, great words. let me ask you, you know when you see people showç up on any side, with weapons, with masks,

with shields, with bats, whatever it is, doesn't matter what side you're coming from, i mean doesn't that indicate you're there for violence? doesn't matter which side you're on? >> we want sanity and peace. we want everyone to step back and peacefully resolve this issue. melissa: it feels like one of the problems is that people are not necessarily trying to fet to the truth or understand the problems on the other side. how do you break through that? because -- >> i believe our president is leading us to do that. he is asking us to sanely examine the facts.ç he appreciates prayer. i want america to pray right now, if you will, and so i believe that if we pray, and we act like reasonable, thinking people, one blood, different skin colors, one human blood in america, we will get to the bottom of some of this. my uncle martin luther king said i decided to stick with love. hate is too difficult a burden to bear. i agree with that. the president is leading us to

sanity. melissa: thank you for your sanity and wisdom today, alveda. we always appreciate when you come on and give us perspective. thank you. david: beautiful, beautiful words. perfect way to end that. here is a look where stocks ow staging a dom back during the final hour of trading. dow turning positive, end up five points, shy of the 22,000 mark. s&p ending in the red. i think i have to catch our breath. melissa: fantastic. she was great. david: she is the best. melissa: the president just responding to questions about the future of the white house strategist steve bannon at the white house. we'll have more what he said about that. plus three more ceos quit the president's manufacturing council, giving up opportunity to help shape policy. is this what is best for their companies. now we're hearing from the ceo of the world's largest retailer, our panel is goingç to weigh i. that is coming up. agious disease

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mr. bannon. david: there is a guy who covers your back. not bad when it is the president of the united states. president trump defending his top aide, steve bannon, just moments ago, leaving door open on his future in the white house. this coming as democratic leaders calling on president trump to take action within the white house, sending him a letter today, reading in part, quote, in the wake of deadly hate crimes and violence committed by white supremacists in charlottesville, we write to requestç immediate removal of steve bannon, stephen miller, sebastian gorka from any positions in the white house. charlie hurt is back. clearly, charlie, making the assumption that these men just mentioned are white supremacists. where does this, there was a guy who was accused being a communist back in the '50s. he said through it back to senator mccarthy said, have you no shame? i'm just wondering these people are in mag charges that could taint the lives of these men for their rest of their lives. and yet, there is no evidence to

back up the charge that any of them are white supremacists. >> itç is really despicable. i thought one of the best questions during that entire press conference was actually not asked by a single reporter but asked by the president himself, when he looked at the reporter, explain to me what a alt-right? i don't know what alt-right is. i don't think anybody knows what alt-right is. if alt right means racist, call them race it. why are we coming up with knew words. the reason it doesn't mean that. means something else. if you're alt right you support donald trump. they want that stink, that stench of racism on that person but calling them alt right. i have known steve bannon a lonç time. thefy is not a racist, this idea as bill clinton called politics of personal destruction, going after people claiming to know what is in their heart and describing moss rotten thing possible, because you're political enemies, how

disgusting. melissa: great point. >> goes back to february, earliest time i could document it, when nancy pelosi said following play the tape. >> will he be gone in a week. >> that is up to the president? what does the mooch think. >> if it was up to me would be gone. >> this is stunning thing, that a white supremacist, bannon, would be a permanent member of nationalç security council. david: white supremacist. wasn't scaramucci. it was second one. there she said it in february, a white supremacist with no evidence whatsoever this man is white supremacist. totally-up charge. he once said, we should mention, he had his "breitbart" publications had something to do with the alt-right, before the alt-right had been defined by anybody as anything specific, right? >> you know, i can't think of anything more despicable in this world than a racist. but possibly a close second would be somebody who uses the term against other people it

shut them áq9ñ david: right. >> among other things, it cheapens the term. it's a serious charge. david: yes. >> racism is serious charge. david: we saw racists on saturday with swastikas. we know what a racist is. >> yeah. david: steve bannon may be a blunt political instrument but he is not a racist. >> i can attest to that on a personal level. i've known him many years. he is not. the other thing is that trump through said i thought was very good, he talked about taking time to learn all the facts before he made a statement. that was something his predecessor never did. on every single time when we had a race situation like this come up, he made it 10 times worse by wading inç without knowing all the facts. david: charlie hurt, thank you very much. good to see you. appreciate it. it is mccarthyism, pure and simple. mccarthyism pure and simple. tainting somebody for their entire lives, that they should lose their jobs. makes me mad. melissa: very true. politics before profits.

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melissa: four ceos are now leaving president trump's manufacturing council, following his response to the charlottesville violence. president trump tweeting this morning, quote, for every ceo that drops out of the manufacturing council, i have many to take their place. grandstanders should not have gone on, jobs. we are now hearing from the walmart ceo. he says the president missed an opportunity, but he is not resigning from the council. gary kaltbaum and veronica dagher are back with us. veronica, the president said in that press conference they are not taking their job seriously as it pertains to shareholders or good of their company, i don't know what the end, everything was flying by so fast in the press conference but there is something to be said

for that. he, by resigning, for what they say is personal reasons, they risk the ire of the president. they also give up a seat at the table where they have an impact. david: bingo. melissa: an impact on what is going on. seems like their duty is to the shareholders and they're not serving them well. >> really complicated situation the ceos are in. as you said, if they back away from this, they risk the anger of the president, and that president has a direct impact on their business going forward, could be regulation, taxes, what have you. also on the flip side though they have some consumers who are angry with them for staying on this council. they may protest them. they may boycott the company. they're doing this calculus and seeing what is best for them. it's a tough situation to be in. but you do bring up a good point. if you don't have the seat at table how do you influence policy. by walking away from something is that really the best thing to do?

melissa: gary, veronica said they're doing a calculation, they're trying to figure out in terms of the company, is it better to leave and make sure that customers aren't mad at you for staying, or is it better to stay and impact policy? they claim that they're leaving for personal, moral reasons, which people out there might think is heroic. but is not, when you are the ceo of a company, your fiduciary legal responsibility is to the shareholders for whom you work, your personal feelings, then you should resign as ceo. if you have to follow your personal feelings over what is good for the company, gary, shouldn't they resign as ceo before they resign from the council for their feelings? >> all i can tell you, if i'm ceo of a company, a major company, and i have a seat at the table at the white house, that talks about policy, constructs policy, and i can have an impact on the policy of the future of the united states

of america, i am sticking my butt in that seat and i am not moving. i do not understand why these people are leaving. maybe they are feeling pressure. you know what? you are ceo of a company. melissa: right. >> you are the head honcho, top dog, big cheese. tell them the best thing for the company is for me and my brains and my smarts to be a part of the process. i completely disagree with these companies moves. melissa: if i'm a shareholder i don't give a crap about your personal feelings, about what is going on. that is not what you were hired. >> exactly. melissa: you are supposed to run the company for shareholders, produce profits. that is your legal responsibility, to let your emotions get in the way is unprofessional, ridiculous. you deserve to be removed from your job. that's it. that is all i have to say about that. >> amen. melissa: veronica, last word? frustrating -- go ahead. >> nobody wants to be endearing their wrath of president on twitter either. melissa: that's true too.

thanks guys, appreciate it. david: you said it. period. that's it. melissa: irresponsible. david: backing down with a nuclear standoff with the united states, why kim jong-un blinked first. chris harmer with the institute for the study of war responding. ♪ got you outnumbered.

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david: north korea backing down on threat against guam. north korea media reporting that kim jong-un is delaying a decision whether or not to fire missiles at guam. here now to respond, chris harmer institute for study of war, senior naval analyst. chris, let's go over the history of what happened. yesterday was very important day. you had those, that op-ed in "wall street journal" by the defense secretary, secretary of state. you had tough talk from jim mattis a little later. you also had the china

sanctions, and i think it was those china sanctions, when china actually saw that president trump was serious signing sanctions, that were related to their refusal to deal with north korea, that had an effect, i think, there was a phone call made to the leader of north korea by the chinese. that is what got things done. what do you think? >> reality senator cree gets almost all oil from the overland pipeline from china. china gets a lot of that out of iran. north korea is dependent on china for diplomatic protection, external military protection. they're dependent of china for 90% of economic activity, minuscule as it is. china has ability to leverage senator korean decision did, by north korea. this is strategic win for him, he desensitized american public reality flout job in north korea has a nucleares weapons. david: that is a great point. you have a nutjob with nuclear missiles. the potential for arming

missiles with nukes and that has a strong relationship with iran which of course is affiliated with terrorists who would love to get their hands on nukes that scares me as well. >> this is interrelated problem. iran and north korea have deep technical and strategic relationship. they share technology on missiles. they share technology on nuclear weapons. anything that north korea figures out iran will get a short time later. reverse is true. we can't deal with one problem without dealing with another. david: i don't want to be pollyannish, do end on positive note. diffuse the current situation. that i didn't hear direct answer, wasn't that because of pressure on china? >> possibly, but we can't be pollyannish here. this is net loss for the united states. we have a guy who is expanding his nuclear weapons program, his ballistic missile program. threatening the united states of america. suffering no consequences for it. that is a loss for us. david: what bothered me about the op-ed in the "wall street journal," mattis and tillerson said we're not for regime change in north korea. i am.

i don't know about you. >> i understand why public figures have to say that publicly. reality we all want regime change in north korea. david: take that with a grain of salt. great to hear from you, chris harmer. we had breaking news. we had to move on fast. >> my pleasure. >> melissa. melissa: mainstream media slamming president trump for his response on charlottesville but president fighting back. david: you think? melissa: more on that. u may havs and could be on the journey to much worse. . ♪ hey. hi. hi. you guys going to the company picnic this weekend? picnics are delightful. oh, wish we could. but we're stuck here catching up on claims. but we just compared historical claims to coverages. but we have those new audits. my natural language api can help us score those by noon. great. see you guys there.

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♪ fly me to the moon ♪ and let me play-- (jet engine white noise) (airline "ding") (bell mnemonic) trump: when i make a statement, i like to be correct. i want the facts. this event just happened. in fact, a lot of the event didn't happen yet, as we were speaking. this event just happened. before i make a statement, i need the facts, so i don't want to rush into a statement. >> i think he had a point. the main point of what we saw today i think, melissa, is that this guy was -- he had been holding so much back, it took new york to bring it out in him. melissa: two other things.

i felt like his support of bannon was tepid. david: he did mention -- melissa: i don't know how full throated that was. also, the infrastructure thing. david: it was very important. melissa: two years to building all this projects. david: kind of overshadowed. melissa: that does it for us. here's risk and reward. trump: when you say the alt-right, define alt-right to me. you define it. go ahead. >> define them as the -- trump: excuse me what about the alt left that came charging at the -- as you say alt-right. do they have any semblance of guilt? let me ask you this. what about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hand, swinging clubs. do they have any problem? i think they do. as far as i'm concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day. wait a minute. i'm not finished. i'm not fini