you got anything better than that? >> neil cavuto. stuart: yes it should. >> stuart varney. stuart: i will play james bond for $150 million like that gentleman. we're officially out of time. maria it is yours. >> welcome to "cavuto: coast to coast," i'm maria bartiromo in for neil cavuto. president trump facing fallout for going off script again. is all this reaction a distraction to the economic again today. we go off to the right off the bat eric mcpike, former trump transition team member and cincinnati mayor ken blackwell. what are your thoughts. all of this noise and upset around the president s this once again getting in the way of the agenda? >> absolutely.

>> anything that takes us away from the agenda, he had a response on saturday. had a more expansive response on monday. i would have done a full stop right there. he didn't. what he is trying to drive home is that this is a culture of, at least a threat to our culture, a threat of violence a threat of hate and it is not just deposited, not just the property of one or two groups on the right. it foes across the spectrum to those on the far left. there is plenty of measurable tangible evidence prove it. his reentering the covers -- conversation yesterday got him off the game about talking about infrastructure and putting people back to work. maria: certainly has been more

about that, as opposed to getting down to the work, erin. will we see a tax reform package by year's end? >> no hose. i think it is very unlikely. only way that gets done becomes totally out of congress because it is clear the white house is not doing anything to put a tax reform package together. president trump at some point in marshes had it by the end of the month. he kept kicking the can down the road. treasury secretary steve mnuchin has done the same thing. we have a seen a number of white house officials kicking the can down the road. they're obviously not putting an agenda together. members of congress have to talk about the president and have to condemn his remarks. so really the president's own making that is kicking this agenda down the road. obviously kevin brady today is giving some remarks on tax reform. they're trying to put something together. congress has to go it alone and

can not count on any help from the white house. maria: that is interesting because the white house has been pushing this narrative that tax reform is going to happen, and it is going to happen by year-end. it is also going to move the needle on the economic growth. it has been congress unable to get so much done. let's face it, the house came up with a health care bill and the senate wouldn't even vote on it. >> absolutely. look, maria, i think we'll have tax cuts. i'm not sure we'll have a comprehensive tax reform program in place by the end of the year, but we can cut taxes. i think he is going to do it by making sure that the deductions in terms of exemptions are doubled. i think we i will do it by dropping the corporate rate. and that way he is speaking to the middle class for, in terms of relief and he is talking about getting getting the

economy fueled up by corporate tax relief. i think more reform will be in the making next year but he has to deliver on tax cuts that bring relief to the middle class and to drive job creation and investment here in america. maria: there is clearly an expectation we'll see tax reform, erin. look at this market, up 20% since election day. up 80 points on the dow jones industrial average. once again record territory we're looking at. if we don't see tax reform i would say we're in for a sizable selloff, even though the most recent catalyst for this market has been strong earnings. >> that's right. the business community continued to believe something will get done but to be clear it is not president trump that will be responsible for this. it is congress that will pass anything. i talk to a number of republican strategist who do believe they have to absolutely get something done because you're seeing a number of republican lawmakers facing constituent throughout the rest of this month who will

be very angry that this republican congress is not doing anything. so yes, they might well pass some form of tangs cuts but it is not going to be president trump responsible for it at all. he has been wanting to cut taxes to a rate even republican members of congress say they can not do. but to be clear, it is not the president who will be cutting taxes. if this gets done congress knows they have to divorce themselves from the president to try to get something done. maria: he has been one pushing this with steven mnuchin and gary cohn. i don't know how you can say it will not be the president. we're waiting to see congress actually come together and agree on a lot of these deduction eliminations and the corporate rate but you can't say the president hasn't been pushing this. this is what he campaigned on. neil: >> absolutely. they both have fingerprints on this promise. here is the reality. they need to just go back to take a look at history. jimmy carter had a majority in the house, had majority in the

senate and white house. he didn't get anything done. they kicked him out. that will happen. if in fact we don't get anything done, if we don't make good pros made, we will in see see change. that we don't want to see if we to carry our agenda out. we need two terps of these majorities and the president. maria: before we see that we very well may see changes in congress. we may see nancy pelosi running the house if congress doesn't get anything done about it time 2018 election starts. talk about the press conference, guys. so much vitriol around the press conference. stay with us. did president trump signal what charlie gasparino has been reporting right? >> i like mr. bannon. he is a friend of mine. mr. bannon came on very late, you know that i went through 17

senators, governors, i won all the primaries. mr. bannon came on much later than that i like him. he is a good man. he is not a racist. i can tell you that. he is a good person. he gets very unfair press in that regard, but we'll see what happens with mr. bannon. maria: we'll see what happens. charlie gasparino is here along with erin and ken. >> fredo, i always knew it was you. maria: wait a minute, the last time we heard we'll see what happens, when he said it about jim comey, and what he said about reince priebus. >> fredo, you're a traitor. i think he thinks bannon is the leaker in there. maria: come on. >> he, there are two things going on here. number one i will take a victory lap that i've been reporting since saturday bannon is on the ropes. maria: and looks like. >> looks like he will stay another day. people close to bannon, steeves lives to fight another day. he is on sort of a watch here,

his career dissipation light is starting to flicker here, at least working for the trump white house. number two thing, why does trump, why is he on the hot seat with donald right now and with the president? the reason why is twofold. i think number one there is concern he is leaker. number two, i think it is three-fold. number two he has gotten cross with the generals who are running things, general kelly, mcmaster, mattis, certain extent, they're asserting power, donald is jealous of him, in the book by the bloomberg reporter -- maria: come on. >> take it from me, in the book bit bloomberg reporter, it said steve bannon was responsible for the victory. now how do i know that? i know people inside of the white house, they believe that. think about what he said about bannon. came out and said steve is really good guy. mr. bannon, is really good guy. by the way he came to my campaign very late. already he is suggesting he is the one that won, not bannon. that is direct shot at that book

by the bloomberg guy, seth green, not seth green. stephen green. maria: josh green. >> josh green. that's it. maria: let me ask you this, charlie, the word is bannon were to leave, if he were to push him out, trump's initial base, the very conservative part of his following, will get mad at him. do you think that is sort of going into his thinking, if i get rid of this guy, i will get backlash? >> it was kind of interesting to sort of, it is impossible to know exactly what is in trump's mind right now. one of the interesting things about yesterday's press conference, i think it wasn't a very good press conference, moral equation, between the alt-left and alt-right, i know the left is bad. i've seen the antifa in action. no offense, nazis started this. by doing that a lot of people think he is laying groundwork to get rid of bannon, basically appeal to his base voter.

maria: vitriol is incredible. i talked about the press conference yesterday, on twitter and i got slammed. >> that you have a opinion. maria: i like the fact he came out swinging, addressed fact he got it wrong initially. ken your thoughts what we heard from the president yesterday? >> look, he can't serve up bannon and appease the left. they already called for miller's replacement and gorka. maria: that's a good point. >> you're not going to be able to -- >> ken, i don't, it is more difficult than just appeasing the left. bannon is being served up for other reasons. generals want him out i think. they're kind of running the show. number one. number two, trump himself, he is mad at him. maria: is this a valid.ken brings up, if it is now, get bullied by pushing him out, who will you be bullied to push out next?

>> i don't think he is being bullied to push him out. the strongest points pushing him out are mcmasters and kelly. he gotten cross with them, some extent mattis. other thing trump is pushing him out. trump is annoyed -- bannon was on "time," cover of "time," as the great manipulator. in the book by josh green saying he won the election. you could tell by donald's statement he is mad about that. >> internecessary seen warfare administrations is not unique to this team. they have taken bloodletting to a new level. maria: no kidding. >> as consequence request advent of social media this is not being played out within the family. it is being played out among the much broader audience. that has debilitating effect getting agenda done. >> might i add -- >> it was in private.

maria: you and fredo. erin, did you want a final point in there? >> i was saying next week the president will have a bit of a rally in arizona. that is probably something bannon can continue to do, help the president connect with his base outside of washington. we're seeing it happening next week. bannon might have diminished role but could have a political role divorced from the agenda that kelly will be overseeing. maria: those rallies energize the president for sure. charlie, erin, ken, we appreciate it. up next is the chairman of the house ways and means committee worried about the reaction backlash distracting tax reform? we're up live taking you to california. amazon hit by the president again today, first thing in the morning. we have an exclusive debate coming up you can't miss. back in a moment right here. "cavuto: coast to coast." copd makes it hard to breathe.

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this is on the day 31 years ago, senate and house delivered a bill that became tax reform. president said back then any system that penalizes accomplishment is wrong. any system that discourages work, productivity, progress is wrong. we're back there, aren't we? we even said to me, chairman, conservatives, republicans have to deliver and we're in a quagmire. what happened 31 years? how did we get back here? >> we're here in historical location on historic day, this is where it started the house and senate came together to deliver pro-growth tax reform. but the point i will make today, look, president reagan wouldn't even recognize this tax code or any of the prescription pills in it because sense then our rates continue to be higher, competitors are gone past far us around the world. it is filled with lobbyists loop hose. it's a mess. so the only way president reagan was able to deliver on that game-changing tax reform to speak directly to the american people.

we'll make the case speaking directly to the american people. it is critical that you engage. >> the speech you deliver, 2:30 pacific, 5:30 east coast time, the keys to current effort, administration and republicans on the hill is sim -- simplicity with the cac code and fairness. i have to ask you, headlines nationwide, what is coming as well, debt ceiling fight, health care came back, how does president trump lead given all the other issues? how does he work with republicans on the hill to deliver the tax reform? >> where i know him back is on tax reform. i'm confident he will lead on the issue. this is signature issue not just for him but for the country as well because we continue to fall behind all of our competitors. you can't go online once a week without seeing another company, moving their jobs or research or manufacturing overseas. i think, i am convinced he is fully committed to this. he is going to lead on tax reform? our job is to work with him in

the senate, in the american public to get this done this year. >> i want to get to the core of this which is the middle class, i know that is key for you. one issue might be benefit to the middle class is an issue we talked about, universal charitable deductions. move all charitable giving above the line. everyone gets to claim that deduction as well as standard dedubs. where are you on that? you were looking at it seriously. >> we are looking at it seriously, we want to unlock more charitable giving. america is amazing generous country. we want to do more of it. whether giving to your church or organization you believe in or the scouts. not to encourage for those that few that itemize but every american the we got great ideas from non-profit groups we're working with. >> my last question before i bring in maria. administration wants 15% corporate tax rate. they originally say that was negotiating beginning point. they are insistent. you said 20%. chairman hatch on senate said

said 25%. where is the tax rate going to be? >> the clear answer, as low as we can go. not just for corpses but every business of every size in america. we're working to drive it as low as we can, and, also unlock that business investment that drives so much main street job growth as well. it is not easy task. we have a lot to do. white house with secretary mnuchin, director cohn, tax writers, ourselves, we're making progress toward that goal. >> maria bartiromo no stranger to you, wants to get a question in. maria: my question is about working with democrats or not. the reason it is important because we want to know if the tax reform package needs to be revenue neutral. you did away with the border adjustment tax. that was going to raise a trillion dollars. if it has to be revenue neutral does that mean you have to come up with another tax somewhere, if it doesn't have to be revenue neutral, that means you will

probably work with democrats. do you expect the democrats to participate in governing when it comes to taxes? >> i sure hope so. we'll make the invitation at reagan ranch. truth they bring good ideas to the table. i would love to make this bipartisan. they see the same community drugs bells we do. we want this tax reform like president reagans we want families and businesses especially those that we want to bring back jobs and supply chains from overseas. we want to design this to balance within the budget so it is permanent and we can count on the growth for the greatest number of years. maria: do you think your colleagues recognize if we don't see real legislation, this year, whether it is tax or health care, there is a chance you majorities in the 2018 elections?

is that a possibility that nancy pelosi gets the job next year if voters don't see tax reform? >> the answer is yes. my constituents know this. i had 16 town hall meetings since we got back to texas. they're upset what is going on in washington, frustrated with the health care issue. they know, they know, they're starved and hungry for tax reform. they know we're leading on this we have to deliver in a big, bold way. maria: chairman, i'm a believer. i know you will get this done, thanks for joining us this afternoon. >> yes, ma'am. maria: chairman kevin brady with adam shapiro. nice job there. up next the administration is not backing down from sanctuary cities and a crackdown on them. attorney general jeff sessions will make a big announcement after this. we'll take you there live. stay with us. ♪ ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions,

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maria: breaking news. ceo of 3m with the latest. i am resigning from the manufacturing advisory council.

he is stepping off of the president's council. the ceo of 3m is the latestceo. now we're up to six executives who have left the council because they do not want to work with the president after his reaction, initial reaction to the tragedy in virginia. let's bring in gerri willis right here, talking about this. gerri, this is getting worse for the president. >> more and more ceos resigning from the council, merck, intel, they are important and they don't want to work with the president. think about this, you talked about this yesterday. hey, you're giving up a seat on an important advisory board that could steer business ultimately to your company. but these ceo's are saying no. why are they saying no? we talked about in the break, these folks are getting called and called by democrats, they're told you can't stay on this council. maria: probably boards of directors are saying, look,

we're uncomfortable with the way he reacted to this. we're hearing from our constituents. definitely there is a movement going on where the dems are calling everybody on that council and pressuring them get off. i spoke with one ceo says i'm getting calls non-stop. >> wow. think about this too. these are very public people. these companies are very public. their shares are traded publicly. there are lots of investors out there, who want to invest on the basis are you doing the right thing. that happens all the time. these folks also pressuring ceos. we're seeing it across the board. maria: wonder what the stock market reaction would be. look at 3m stock. i wonder how you feel about taking your seat off the table. if you're representing shareholders, don't you want a voice in policy? don't you want to be there actually to try to dictate what may or may not happen in terms of tax reform? 3m shares are up, right now, half a percent, but what do you think about that? you know, is it better to have a seat at the table so you can

say, hey, mr. president, i don't like the way you're dealing with this? >> right. if you want to get in the president's ear, telling him you're doing the wrong thing, have a seat at the table. at the end of the day i think abscess is important but i also know these guys, they bend in the wind, right? because they're public figures. they don't want to be, under scrutiny. they don't want to be criticized publicly. their public face some ways more important than the access. that is what they're saying today. maria: let's not forget the president has real trade policies that may go against what these global companies are all about, right? they want to be able to have employees overseas, have production overseas. the president saying no. bring everything back here. >> right. so let's look at the flip side of that, right? donald trump with his recent comments, object of a lot of scorn, a lot of criticism from many, many places. the other ideas these ceos may be entertaining is, he will not get anything done anyway.

why would i waste my time on advisory board, right? maria: kevin brady, has a different opinion there, the chairman of the house ways and means committee we spoke with. ceo of 3m, becomes the sixth ceo to step off of the president's manufacturing council. market, strong, up 80 points on dow industrials. up four days in a row. nicole petallides on floor of new york stock exchange. find out what is leading a rebound. nicole to you. >> maria, we're seeing the dow up 80 points. don't forget we had three-day selloff last week with the north korean tensions and we lost 275 points during that time. that monday august 7th we were at a record close of 21,118. we're about 40 points away at this time with the move we're seeing with four days of gains. i have seen stellar moves on particular stock since the north korean tensions began. now we're seeing names like michael kors.

that brand is up 20% since the drop it saw. you see a dramatic move down and up in that particular stock. ralph lauren is up about 10%. as i noted four days of gains here for thedown. four days, 40 points away from a record close. we're awaiting to hear about the fed minutes as well. we'll watch to see if there is any talk about rate hikes, which is likelihood of 50.4% for december rate hike. we'll watch for indications there as well. stocks are moving higher despite all the headlines on washington and trump's comments and like. we've been seeing vix, fear index down for the fourth day. back to you. maria: we'll leave it there. thanks, nicole. attorney general jeff sessions will address sanctuary city crime in miami later today. here is an excerpt from his speech. "i know miami-dade will be example from good of following the law. we've already seen the same independence day weekend when chicago suffered more than 100

shootings, 15 homicides, miami-dade had historic number of shooting deaths, zero. to immigration expert we go, elvira salazar. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. maria: what do you want to hear from jeff sessions today? >> i would love for senator sessions to say from now on the feds want to go after the illegal immigrants that have a serious criminal record. first of all i would like to say hispanic-americans, i want to share with you i always say when i come on fox, hispanic-americans do not like sanctuary cities. sanctuary cities sending a message to our fellow americans, we in the hispanic community we're defending criminals and we're not because those criminals could be killing our children. i think that is the first message. what the feds need to do through senator sessions which happens to be the toughest face of immigration when it comes to the trump administration, from now on, we're not going to be deporting illegals, the cleaning

ladies that do not have a serious criminal record. we'll be kicking out of the country those illegals that do have criminal records. that we're all on the same page. maria: it is hard to argue we want open borders even when people are committing crimes. >> absolutely. we don't want open borders. we want to take care of people already in the united states. maria: how come governors, how come governors and mayors across the country are not acting this way? we're not hearing that from rahm emanuel in chicago. we're not hearing that from bill de blasio in new york? >> i think they're confused, but i'm telling you what the community is thinking. we want to protect the cleaning lady and the pastor, people that haven't had a brush with the law, give them an opportunity in the future to have an immigration reform law that will then decide what is going to happen with them. maybe some type of legality.

maria: yeah. what do you want to say to the california attorney general, elvira? this is intensifying, california's standoff with the administration. the california attorney general is suing the justice department over the administration's plan to cut off millions of dollars in federal funding. what else can the government do than cut off federal funding? if you don't want to follow the law the federal government will not continue paying this money to the cities. yet, you have california now say, no, no, we're suing you? >> i agree with what you're saying. i think we should distinguish here what is happening. what the law says, the law is very confusing because you know the immigration system is broken and we need to fix it. that is the first thing. we wouldn't need immigration law reform in order to fix it. number one. number two, the cities should have clear guidelines from the feds and the feds should say we want what president trump promised, bad hombres are out

but the good hombres are not illegal. being illegals does not mean being criminal. that is where everybody is confused because the cleaning lady can not be put on the same list as the gang member. so i'm not defending the gang member. i'm only saying let's give an opportunity to the cleaning lady or guy picking jalapeno peppers in southern california, getting a job, been here for 10 years, children, kids, cars, church, hasn't had a brush with the law and somebody is using his labor. that is another thing if it is good for the goose, it is good for the gander of the who is giving him a job? that guy is breaking the law as well. sit on the table, talk about all different issues not just one segment. maria: you make important, smart, practical points. good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you, maria. maria: up next, apple reportedly making a big push into original content. they're ready to write big checks. what that means for google

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maria: welcome back. we want to show you this, vice president mike pence will hold a joint press conference from president of chile. we're told he will take actions after an initial statement. reaction to charlottesville will come up. we'll bring you q&a as it happens and go live as news develops. we want to tell you this. apple reportedly making a big push into original content. should netflix an amazon be worried? deirdre bolton is on the story. this is incredible that they're writing these big checks. >> yes, they are. a billion dollars what apple says it has to buy or build original content here. that sound like a lot of money, a billion dollars. stock it up to netflix's plan, netflix has 6 billion to spend this year. another 6 billion out in

commitments. this is how it is shaking out between the three-way race. you have apple, amazon and netflix. apple has lots of time and lots of money, but obviously netflix and amazon already have a pretty big head start. so that is kind of settling down. look at stock prices down, netflix by far the most expensive. up 75, 76% in the past year. amazon, apple all-time high. still lagging past 12 months, something like 50%. what is clear these new media stocks are coming for the networks. maria: yeah. >> and they are coming for hollywood. i mean amazon, right, had the big first oscar with "manchester by the sea," casey affleck. they're just everywhere. maria: i watch "house of cards." i love it. original content drawing viewers here. remember what disney said the other day, disney said i will not give anymore disney content to netflix. treating them as an enemy.

>> they should as you know, netflix just stole away disney-abc superstar producer shonda rhimes. "how to get away with murder," "grey's anatomy" and "scandal." this content war is on. full steam ahead. maria: content is king. content is driving things. you have different distribution. people want to watch when they want to watch exactly when they want to watch. >> we're too busy making appointment television. clear takeaway, companies are coming for the networks and cable. netflix has more subscribers than every single cable station put together. netflix has 50 million. all the cable companies put together have 48 million. maria: wow. >> so these companies are coming for networks. coming for hollywood. now they will have to duke it out in a three-way race between them. >> i wonder how important

content for apple versus hardware? >> that is the question. maria: will it hurt apple if they take their eye off the ball for hardware? >> apple has other tricks, it is not a one-trick pony arguably you could say netflix is. you're right, they will have to manage. maria: deirdre, great stuff. >> thank you. maria: see you a little later. deirdre bolton there. silicon valley claims to champion free speech, but when google employee james damore wrote a memo on diversity he found himself out of a job. former employee james damore is here. glad to have you join us. >> great to be here. maria: a lot goes on after you wrote the memo and first circulated a document to diversity groups and individuals there was no outcry of cry of misogyny. everything changed when it went viral. tell us what happened, james. >> when i sent it to actual programs and individual

googlers, no one cared. it was largely ignored much once it became viral, there was small percent of people that got extremely outrageous, or outraged, and they got extremely angry, started shaming me. and no one felt core rain just enough to really stand up to them. and because they knew that if they stood up, they would be fired just like i was. maria: why did you write the memo, james? what were you trying to say? give us in a nutshell what your point was? >> so, largely i was trying to help google's culture and also, i went to these diversity perhaps, they were explicitly asking for feedback. i was trying to give that feedback to them. they were just ignoring it. maria: so google provided this statement to fox business, and they say this. an important part of our culture is lively debate but like any work place that does not mean that anything goes. that basically you broke a code

of conduct, and you say? >> i, they really have the most flexible policies where they can use their policies to say that any wrong thing in their opinion is against their policies. so we've seen it time and again where they use it just for political means. maria: tell me about that. when they use it for political means, when you say they use for political means, you had said, saw you on another show recently, almost like a cult. when you say that, what do you mean? in other words they have liberal politics and pushing it on the employees? what are you trying to say? >> yeah, there is a certain dogma, left-wing dogma that they have, they feel threatened if anyone shows a dissenting opinion, and in my case, they just fire them. maria: right. i mean there was a letter that larry page wrote, one of the founders of googles said this email, this is the email larry

page should have written to james damore and one of the things he says is, even if you are right that men and women are well-suited to the job of software, even if you are right that more men than women are well-suited to the job of software engineer at google, you are wrong that taking steps to recruit more women is inherently unfair to men. is that what you're saying, they shouldn't be recruiting more women because women are just not well-suited for the job? >> no. i'm simply stating that this disparity from 50%, is not solely due to sexism, which is what we've been saying. that that narrative is actually hurting all of us. it is putting many women as victims and many women just don't want this special treatment. they want to be just a coder like everyone else. maria: could it be that maybe there are some women good at it and they don't know until they get the job? how do we know that? >> of course.

there are many people that are good at it that didn't really know it beforehand. for example, i was very, i'm very good at coding and i never really worked as a coder before coming to google. so, it doesn't have to do with your gender. it is just self-confidence and just working hard for it. maria: so what are the standards then at google in terms of hiring engineers? >> the standards are very high and, in our interview process we explicitly try to never find anyone that won't be great at the job, which causes a lot of very, high qualified people to not get in. but they try to bend those rules for certain people and that is causing a lot of tensions within the company. maria: i see. an you're saying basically that's wrong in of itself. now in your op-ed, you wrote,

how does google the company that hires smartest people in the world become so idealogically driven and intolerant of scientific debate and reasoned argument. a moment ago you said they shame you if you don't agree with their left-wing thoughts. how do they shame you, james? >> by saying that you're a sexist, and a bigot and nazi, we should punch you and fire you. it happens at large-scale for me, but even in small scale, if you make any comment that dissents against their narrative you're labeled sexist. maria: you call it an intense echo chamber. >> right. and they literally can't see any other reason to be against these policies besides being a sexist. maria: are you going to keep working in tech? is this a tech issue? or is this specifically google? >> this is definitely a silicon valley issue. there may be certain smaller

companies that haven't been taken up with this but, many of the large companies are very similar. maria: what are you going to do now, james? >> i'm still trying to work that out actually. i still like tech, unfortunately many of the jobs have likely blacklisted me. maria: this is a big deal. you weren't expecting to get fired, right? >> no. definitely not. i mean, the document was to try to help google and they fired me for it. that is why i feel betrayed. maria: you feel betrayed. but you were trying to help hem in terms of putting this idea out that, that's also bad by just hiring men because you think, by hiring women, because you want to give them the opportunity even though they're not good at it, is that what you're saying. >> i'm not saying we're hiring bad woman. i'm saying i'm just saying the narrative they're push something hurtful to both men and women, and it is only increasing the

tension within google, and it is making us blind to science really. and by, even used science to address the gender gap, how we can change tech to make it a more welcoming place. maria: james, thanks so much for bringing this to our attention and to spotlighting issue. we appreciate your time. thank you, james. james damore. >> thank you very much. maria: we're on north korea staying quiet next. back in a minute.

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>> welcome back. mike pence is taking questions right now. let's take to santiago, chile. >> take same steps for the latin american countries that you're doing today? >> president trump sent me to the asia-pacific earlier this year, and he sent other representatives of our administration to send one clear message to north korea, and that is that the era of strategic patience is over. literally for decade the world community has practiced a patience with north korea in the hopes that they would some day

abandon their nuclear and ballistic missile ambitions. all along the way north korea, has simply used delay and used feignednegotiations to continue in their head-long rush to obtain usable nuclear weapons and a ballistic missile program and the president has made it clear those days are over. we truly believe that it is imperative the regime in pongyang understand all option are on the stable. the night of america will simply not permit a rogue regime in north korea, to possess usable nuclear weapons that can reach the continental united states and threaten our people. but that being said, we believe that the ongoing economic and diplomatic pressure is being brought to bear by our allies in the region, by allies here in

latin america and renewed pressure by china itself, is resulting in what we believe represent glimmers of hope that we can achieve by peaceful means, that which nations around the world have sought on the korean peninsula now for decades. my call today here in chile and, and our efforts with regard to brazil, mexico and peru, call our on our friend in this hemisphere and nations around the world to continue to use the economic and diplomatic tools they have to further isolate north korea. we truly do believe that we are seeing progress which i mentioned the president acknowledged this morning, but more sneads to be done and it is our hope that chile, brazil, mexico and peru will join us in

breaking all diplomatic and commercial ties with north korea. as that isolation economically and diplomatically continues, the hope for a peaceable solution and nuclear free korean peninsula believe becomes more obtainable. >> cutting diplomatic ties, there shouldn't be embassies in north korea or ambassadors to north korea? are you concerned given the threat to guam essentially yesterday, your comment today could catch the up the situation again -- ratchet up the situation again? >> policy of the united states we're working with nations around world to isolate north korea economically and diplomatically. the president of chile, chile has, if i describe it correctly, they have a joint arrangement of their diplomatic relations with china and north korea but to the credit of chile they have not

presented credentials for the last four years, and i requested president bashele simply to terminate that relationship formally. we believe that will facilitate a peaceable outcome. we want north korea to understand there is a cost. among the family of nations, to their ongoing provocations. as the president did today, we welcome the statements of the kim regime this week with regard to guam, but our objective is clear, it's a nuclear-free korean peninsula. we want the regime in pongyang to permanently abandon its nuclear and ballistic missile programs and ambitions. we'll will continue to bring pressure to bear until we achieve that goal. >> next, "washington post." >> mr. vice president, we appreciate you taking a couple questions so thank you.

the remarks made by president trump yesterday about the violence in charlottesville, virginia, alarmed many americans including republican supporters. do you agree with the president that there were good people among the white supremacist protesters, that there was blame to be had on both sides and more broadly, sir, do you believe that confederate statues should be removed as is happening in many cities across the south? or do you agree with the president, that confederate general robert e. lee should be considered in the same pantheon as george washington? >> what happened in charlottesville was a tragedy and the president has been clear on that tragedy and so have i. i spoke at length about this heartbreaking situation on sunday night in colombia. i stand with the president, and i stand by those word.

but today, while i am here in chile, our hearts are in charlottesville, because just a few short hours ago because jus hours ago, family and friends gathered to say farewell to a remarkable young woman. heather heyer. and we've been praying, we've been praying for god's peace and comfort for her family and her friends and her loved ones. and we're also praying that in america, that we will not allow the few to divide the many. the strength of the united states of america is always strongest as the president said so eloquently when we are united around our shared

values. and so it will always be. but let me say it's about the strength of the united states of america that the president sent me here to latin america, and as we prepare to end our trip a little bit early tomorrow, after we stop in panama, i leave here greatly encouraged that across south america and central america, with the united states and canada, that there is a -- this is a new era here in the new world. chile is a shining example of a nation that first chose economic freedom decades ago and now, now is experiencing a vibrant democracy, and it's inspiring nations across latin america who followed chile's lead, and i -- i returned from this trip more encouraged than ever that not only will our commerce grow, strengthening

jobs and opportunities in america, strengthening prosperity across latin america, but i truly do believe that the unity that i have experienced in our determination to ensure that we will not permit a failed state in venezuela in this hemisphere is more true than ever. the determination, phil, that i have heard among the nations they visited about ensuring that we stand with the venezuelan people, that we bring the full measure of economic and diplomatic power to bear until democracy is restored has truly been inspiring. i've made it clear that as the president has that the united states of america has many options. we reserve those options to advance the security of the united states with regard to

venezuela. but i will return home tomorrow, more confident than ever, that freedom-loving countries across latin america, along with the united states, can continue to bring pressure to bear, the kind of pressure that president bachele and i discussed increasing pressure to venezuela and create the conditions where we see democracy restored. phil, thank you very much. thank you, all. maria: vice president mike pence wrapping up there, addressing president trump's response to charlottesville, standing by the president's words. as he was talking, more breaking news, the ceo of campbell's soup denise morrison announcing resignation from the manufacturing council initiative. seven people have stepped down from the president's council, denise morris is reacting to

the president's commentary and as a result, stepping down from his manufacturing council. reaction to all of this. former virginia governor george allen with us along with trump council member, thank you for joining us. let me start with you, javier, your thoughts on the ceos stepping down from the president's councils. obviously, this is a business president, and yet he's having problems with business leaders today. >> you know, i commend those leaders from a variety of corporations who have decided to take a stand. i think in america, they have every right to do so and commend them for sticking to their principles. to your point, we're all disappointed. it seems business yet again has taken a back seat to bigotry. we're hopeful that a business minded ceo in the white house would be helpful to american business, and that's not what's transpiring.

maria: your thoughts on all of this because clearly the president has lots of councils out there, whether it's the ceo council or the manufacturing council, other counsels. are these councils effective? does it matter that the ceos are stepping down or is it just to make a point, that they don't like him? >> are you talking to me, george allen? maria: my apologies, george allen, yes. >> they have the right to make whatever decisions they want to make? we do have a pro-business administration, and every company and every leader can make a decision as he or she fits. however, they ought to take every opportunity they can to fight for the working men and women of the companies and the workers of america want to have more opportunities, more jobs, make our country more competitive, whether it's regulatory reform, tax reform, frat from initiatives, positive productive energy policy, so i hope leaders will try to fight

for the working people of america and find any opportunity to advance their cause. maria: it's an important point iwonder if they are advancing their cause when they don't have a seat at table anymore? >> they'll have to find other ways of doing it. go ahead, javier, i didn't mean to interrupt you. >> no, no, thank you, governor. i was about to say governor, i couldn't agree more with the governor. you know our constituency, 4.2 hispanic-owned firms that collectively contribute $668 billion to the american economy has asked me to remain resolute. we must have a seat the the table. we must have a voice in the negotiations and what happens next. you know, we are focused on, as the governor said, immigration reform, tax reform, health care reform. these are the things that the american business owners, job creators, that have put me in this position are asking me to stay focused on and we will continue, in opposition, i

might say, i'm a member in opposition but will stay on the council and remain hopeful that we can get back to doing business. maria: and governor? >> maybe, javier, points you may make in representing the working people and the companies of your association say they have a point there. why don't we take that into account, it's better to be engaged trying to help out your workers than not. but again, it's everyone's decision. maria: obviously, governor -- >> it really is about campaigning from the inside rather than complaining from the outside. you can't change the game if you're not in the game. this is a difficult time, i'm a member in opposition, but i remain resolute, that you have to have, you know, access to the administration, whoever is running the administration. maria: you would think. governor, your thoughts on just what transpired. the hate -- >> charlottesville.

maria: please talk to us about that. >> the hate in charlottesville was abhorrent, and i issued a statement saturday on it. the hate groups and the neo-nazis are wrong, contrary to the ideal of america. america is a meritocracy where everyone has equal opportunity to compete and succeed based on hard work and ingenuity. on a personal level, maria, when i saw the nazi flags, i thought of my mother. my mother, my grandfather was incarcerated by the nazis during world war ii. she was in tunisia. and she concealed until 2006 that he was jewish, and when she revealed that to me, i said, ma, why didn't you tell us this. she lived in fear all those years that nazis and anti-semitism would prevent her husband, my father from getting a job, he was protecting her babies, and thought of her

seeing the flags in charlottesville at park. i remember telling her the nazis are dead and gone, and she would have said see, they're back, and struck fear in her, and i just think it's so important for leaders, whenever the ugly head of racism, bigotry, anti-semitism rises up, leaders need to deplore it, condemn it. otherwise, if you're silent, people will think it's acceptable or condoned. i think it's important for all people to find things that unify our country. and that's kind of things that make america great again, and that's jobs and competitiveness and energy and so forth, but this -- and i'm not going to defend any of these militant leftist groups or so forth, but the main point is let's stand strong for freedom and justice in america, our high aspirations and high ideals. >> you are absolutely right. the hate exhibited in the last

week is disgusting. do you think the president said it right yesterday, or did he get it wrong again? obviously, there was a lot of criticism about his initial reaction. he said he didn't have all the facts. is it appropriate for the ceos to step off of the council? >> are you asking me? maria: yes, governor, i'm asking you, yes. >> the ceos can make their own decisions. i made my own decision in the statements i wanted to make. a lot of this is very personal but it's what you hear from leaders all across the country. i did hear the president's remarks monday which i thought were well stated. i was busy yesterday and didn't follow the press conference and all of that with it, but i do think americans need to be unified, leaders, whether they are governors, mayors, legislators or the president, i think it's important to try to bring our country together, and i do think it is important, as i have done and i know many others have, is it condemn this

hatred, this bigotry, and really not give it any excuse finishing at all acceptable, because our american dream is one, again, of a meritocracy and should fight for working people and business, and making our country more competitive and need to make sure that we recognize every person no matter how diverse or different the religion or their background or ethnicity or race or gender all have that equal opportunity to compete and succeed. that's the american dream, and the government's voel to make sure you got a level playing field so people have the opportunity, not equal results but equal opportunity, that's the dream of america. maria: that is definitely america. gentlemen, thank you very much for joining us, governor, good to see you, javier, thank you for joining us as well. breaking news as well, a second trump advisory council of ceos is disbanding. charlie gasparino has breaking news right now. charlie? >> i would say, this maria, this is the most important one.

this is the big kahuna, run by steve schwartzman the ceo of blackstone, we understand from schwartzman's office, they will put out a statement shortly and will likely read this, that something known as the strategic and policy forum made up of ceos like jamie dimon of jpmorgan chase, larry fink, this thing in reaction to the advisory forum doesn't set policy, it is important because the president talks to them all the time. this forum is likely to be disbanded following what people in the forum believe is president trump's intemperate, to say the least, remarks following the charlottesville white nationalist rally and riot over the weekend. we should point out, look and see what's in the letter. it will be really interesting

to see where schwartzmann himself has set out. schwartzman is an adviser to trump during the campaign and after, playing a significant role in advising the president behind the scenes, hasn't gotten a lot of attention from what i understand. it will be interesting to see how he responds to this. jamie dimon's comments will be interesting as well. he runs the biggest bank, a moderate, always has been. he's been critical of the president, positive about the president in tax policy. here's the thing why this is important. not like these are politicians, not like they can swing voters with a snap of the fingers. a time when corporate america embraced donald trump because they liked his tax policy. the fact they would do a 180 on him now worried about charlottesville is worried about the infection, what was said, his tone on the customers and business, and run big

businesses that deal with the public. jamie dimon runs the biggest bank in the country, one of the biggest in the world, i believe. i don't know how many depositors but i bet you there are millions. steve schwartzman runs a private equity firm, larry fink runs asset management firm. they manage money for pension funds. manage money for average people as well. these are consumer-oriented businesses and running away from donald trump right now. that is not a good sign for this presidency. maria: so you're saying that this council is being disbanded and you're saying -- >> what i hear, let's be clear, my sources are telling me the press release is going to be released soon. likely to be disbanded. i don't have it fully disbanded. cnbc, we should point out and reuters are pointing out it's disbanged. i want to see it in paper before i say it is.

maria: what do you hear in terms of the pressure the guys are getting? i was on the phone with a ceo yesterday and told me maria i'm getting calls nonstop, step off the board, step off the council. do you think the left is calling all of the members on all of the councils and sort of putting the heat on to say hey, you've got constituent shareholders, here's the board, what do you think? >> i can't imagine jamie dimon is going to be bullied by george soros, i can't believe larry fink is going to be bullied by george soros. maria: and steve schwartzman, too. >> who would put it by the media matters and target corporate america. i will say, this i think there are more responding to what they believe will be a business pressure, customers reacting, because they believe that donald trump's remarks were just not the right remarks given what happened. that's what i believe.

maria: they wanted them to be much harder, of course. >> to say the least. maria: have you more breaking news, charlie? >> i said they wanted to be harder, to say the least. maria: thank you, charlie gasparino with the latest there. the president is tweeting right now, and we want to get to that right away because this is just hitting the tape right now. here's what the president is saying right now -- okay, we got the news, charlie. charlie gasparino, you still with us. president says he is disbanding both councils. >> well, that's because they probably went to him and wanted to get ahead of the news. it's pretty transparent. we're in never, never land here. maria, i would say this, you know, this is -- this is one of the more perilous times in the trump presidency, i don't want to overstate it. if you lose the business

community which embraced him off the bat, which allowed him to basically also, you know, carry on and say that he was creating all these jobs, keeping companies in america that were -- i'm going to keep them there anyway. they let him get away with that because they want the good relations for the white house. one of the reasons they want good relations, they feared president trump's twitter, they also liked his economic plans, lower corporate tax rate is something liberals like larry fink who is a liberal, he wants a lower corporate tax rate. i've spoken to him about this. maria: he also told me he would go for a vat tax. >> i believe that, but he wants the lower corporate tax rate, and you know, he embraces some parts of trump's economic agenda is the bigger point i'm trying make. corporate america embraced it. tim cook was in the white house, he's a liberal. we should point out this means that they are really

recalibrating the relationship with the white house in such a major way following these remarks that there is some taint that these remarks have given or that corporate america is worried that these remarks will give them if there is any association with an administration that doubles down on what they believe was rhetoric, that was not right. that was totally off the wall, and listen, i'm not saying this is going to cost the republicans the 2018 house and senate, i'm not saying in four years or three years from now, donald trump is not going to get re-elected. i'm telling you this is a pretty deep, this is an issue. maria: this is a serious thing, i agree with you. >> very serious. maria: what are they going to do? are they going to start whining when he comes out with policy without their input? i know that corporate america wants to see a lower corporate tax rate, certainly small business does, i don't know about large business, large business hasn't paid the 35% corporate tax rate in a long time but smaller business --

>> they pay 27%, they'd like it down to 20, that's an average. maria: some of them are not paying in the 20s, let's face it. but the point is now he's going to do policy without their input. is that a good idea for them? >> i don't know. we're in never, never land with this presidency. maria: this is extraordinary, i agree with you. >> listen, i think they're going to have to want some seat at the table. you know, i think you can always see them backchannel it through congress. the real question is do guys like gary cohn, head of the nec, tight with corporate america, the number two guy at goldman sachs, there is mnuchin, do they resign? that's where this thing, there could be a snowball effect. the popular backlash to trump's statement is picking up steam, it can't just be george soros fueling this flame. it's got to be more than that.

maria: wonder if it's pension funds. >> probably. maria: see you later. charlie gasparino with the breaking news. stay with us, right after this.

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ending both. thank you all. he says. get reaction from the former ceo of mcdonald's usa, always a pleasure to see you. what do you think? >> well, this is a tragic moment in our history. i had the good fortune of having lived through carter and the embassy takeover in iran. the clinton impeachment, watergate. different presidencies have had different problems. donald trump, our president, is creating a lot of his own problems. this situation that developed over the weekend in charlottesville is abhorrent, we cannot tolerate that, we cannot have that kind of thing ever again. like we could never have another holocaust. i choose to lead from the inside, not outside, and i'm sorry that all the executives had to leave, i believe they had to leave because board of directors and key constituencies and stockholders said get out of there or our

organization is tainted by this president. maria: yeah. >> when the phoenix crashes and burns, we're going to have an opportunity to regrow our organization, our companies, our country, particularly, and start talking to one another in the civil term. it's time for the head of the senate, the head of the house, the president and all the important leaders of america get their heads on straight and quit acting like a bunch of children and deal with the real problem in this country. you cannot pit the voter against each other to get re-elected. we are not going to be politically correct going forward, the citizens won't allow it. we need engagement with african-americans, hispanics, asians, talk about the future of this country. reagan said it, we need to be the shining light on the hill. we have to get back there. maria: the president did denounce the hate groups one by one yesterday. i assume he recognized that he

fell short a couple days earlier and came out and did the press conference, supposed to be about infrastructure. yet he came out and went through where his failings were, and yet these guys are still stepping down, and girl, from campbell's soup. do you think they're getting pressure, you say they're getting pressure from the board. what's happening here? because as i said earlier, i spoke with a ceo who said i'm getting calls nonstop to step down. is the pressure coming from pension funds or shareholders or just boards? >> all of the above. i'm sure there are stockholders in labor unions, stakeholders in investments, board of directors, employee groups and saying the same thing, we don't want our company, our institution tainted with what's going on right now. we believe in civil rights. we believe everybody is equal. we can't have this. everybody better take a deep breath, back off, cool off, and trump needs to be a great leader and great leaders need

to listen to their team. and i don't think he's listening to anybody right now. i'm angry. maria: you're angry at him. >> i'm angry at my president right now. i voted for him, wanted for him to succeed because he's not a political animal. but he's got to behave himself in the sense and listen to the people around him, and he doesn't listen worth a damn. maria: what do you want him to listen to, how do you want him to act differently? tell me that? >> we need religious leaders, philosophers and business leaders to say what are we going to do to fix this? we need the guys in the senate and the house to come together and talk about what we're going to do to fix this? what are we going to do with president trump for the next three years? this country is going to be in shambles if we don't rally around a point of view and strategy to grow the country. we need jobs back in america. we need a great employed middle class. we need to deal with the crime in the city of chicago, drug dealers, we've got to have a

strong leader to get it done and need the support to help him. maria: that's the thing, there is not the support you would expect coming out of congress. you saw what happened with health care. saw what happened in the senate. some of the guys and gals are fine if he doesn't succeed. senate, they're for six years, they'll outlive him, they're thinking. how are you going to get them to come and help the president. if you say he needs leadership, what does he need to do to show leadership and corral congress to help him get things done? >> well, i wish pence were in washington instead of south america because he could be a gentle hand on the tiller right now. donald trump really likes vice president, and i think he could have an influence. i think that's one of the reasons he's coming back early from south america. we need him right now to be a steady hand on the tiller and again, i want to say, it we need to get the leadership in the house and the senate to come together with the executive branch and say okay, we've got a mess on our hands,

what are we going to do get back on track? if they want trump to fail, they'll keep doing what they're doing. here's the thing we ought to think about, when the horse barn's on fire, the horse runs back to the stall because it's the safest place than i, the most dangerous place to be right now. we need to stick our neck out a little bit and talk to the president in an honest broker way. maria: we'll leave you there. ed, we know can you do it. ed renesi former ceo of mcdonald's usa. next, the very latest on that press conference. back in a moment.

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options are on the table, and the united states will continue to bring will full range of american power, economic and diplomatic, until north korea abandoned its nuclear and ballistic missile programs. maria: vice president mike pence saying all options on the table with north korea. he is in chile today. let's go to former central command commander during iraq war. thank you for joining us. >> hey, maia, busy afternoon. >> for sure. maria: your reaction to mike pence's comments on north korea and now this idea that it feels like kim jong-un is backing down on those plans to hit guam. >> i think what we're seeing is the continuation of what's been going on for many, many years with north korea, whether it's kim or his father or grandfather. we see all kinds of statements, up and down, all over the place, he's very mercurial. however, there are some common threads here, and one is they think it's good in a way that

the nations that have come together in the latest round of sanctions to apply hopefully universal pressure on on north korea to convince them that the rest of the world is watching and is not appreciating they're behavior. on the other hand, i think we need to be able to be careful about isolating them too much. the last thing you want to do is have them feel they're in a corner of a box with no way out. answer to that we've seen from secretary of state tillerson that indicated that we stand ready to talk to these folks, to negotiate a way ahead. and reality is that's going to have to happen sooner or later. remember, this situation in korea is the result of an armistice from a war that was stopped in 1953. never been a formal end to that war, and i think one of the challenges is that the north koreans feel that the word they

hear most frequently from them is hostile, they say we, the u.s. are very hostile towards them. there's still a state of war that's only been ended by an armistice. at some point in time, we need to figure out a way to sit down and work out a way ahead. it's not only our interest and theirs but all in the world's. this area, this is a business channel, and the business of what goes on in northeast asia is critical to this country. take japan and china and south korea and all the economic activity between those countries and ourselves, really important. and to have an unstable regime in the north that is continuing bellicose behavior, and i think primarily because they feel that the u.s. really is trying to eliminate them, that we're going to force regime change, and that's the biggest concern, and i suspect that's a critical motivation for them to come up with a nuclear weapon as a

deterrent. all this is very complex, but the end of the day, i think we need to be careful, take his backing down, if you would, statement, as a good omen and working quietly behind the scenes to get something moving between the two countries. maria: what about japan and china? talk about the neighborhood for a minute because the u.s. has been counting on china to help rein in north korea and nuclear ambitions and the u.s. and japan conducted air drills today as north korea watches japanese jets conducted air maneuvers with u.s. bombers southwest of the korean peninsula. north korea obviously had had considered firing missiles towards the u.s. can japan and china be doing more than they are right now? >> well, the japanese -- very different relationships. longstanding alliance with japan, they've been treaty allies since the end of world war ii, and we're the guarantors of security for that

country. china, on the other hand, has now become certainly our biggest economic partner, and with their long border with north korea, very sensitive to what goes on in there. i think the idea that we push to china and say you fix this is nothing. that's not going happen to. we need to be engaged. the chinese can be very helpful. maria: quickly before you go. what's the iran connection? people have said, look, north korea did not create the nuclear missiles and increase nuclear stockpile alone. how does iran fit into this? >> actually, i think iran's been a beneficiary of north korean technology particularly in missiles. i think the nuclear programs probably got a little impetus. but if you go back and remember that the north korean nuclear program was plutonium based and the iranian is uranium centrifuge based. two different ways to get

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hours, i informed our clients on the forum as well as the forum's chairman on the decision to resign. and johnson & johnson ceo saying he also changed his mind to be on the council, as you see there, the stock market has dropped as we learned this news. the news of the councils disbanding. former trump surrogate jason meister and market watcher hitha herzog are with me now. thank you for joining us. what's your take on the councils being disbanded and all the ceos abandoning the trump administration? >> there's two things happening here. clearly trump wants to get ahead of the curve. he wants to make sure he is disbanding something so every single ceo doesn't completely leave him and he's left in the lurch, and looking quite frankly stupid about this whole thing. all the ceos have more than peers to answer to.

they have shareholders. i follow under armour, the stock is in theility to, they are eliminating 2% of workforce. having been part of the council that is getting so much bad press, he cannot afford to lose anything more here. maria: you are saying there are more issues than just trump and his language, you think the ceos are under pressure because of the stock prices? >> definitely, definitely. maria: okay. >> i think this is the new left. i think this is peer pressure, the corporate peer pressure, if you take a step back and look at what the president said, he said there was blame on all sides and there was blame on all sides, maria. we have a black lives matter violent group, we have a group funded by george soros and others, and they were armed to the gills. they were beating people up with pipes. i mean, we denounced nazis, we denounce kkk, denounce blm, we

denounce anti-thug. what's wrong with denouncing the hate in the world right now? maria: i think as a country, we are still very raw about this. takes us back to slavery and thinking about the horrific happenings in world war ii, and that's why i think people wanted him to be stronger in his statement initially. i think he addressed it yesterday but obviousliesa the ceos are getting pressure to step down. i think you are right, there is shaming going. >> it's a big shaming going on, and few people are happy about it. george soros is happy today, barack obama is happy today. the alt-left is happy today. >> it's not a left thing, look at stock prices, look at under armour. maria: it's not just kevin plank. >> there's a lot of politics involved in this. >> sure, i do think there is some sort of corporate peer pressure going on here but has nothing to do -- you can't just say, oh, just because these

corporations somehow stew more to the left that they're pressuring the ceos to leave. >> but look at the left, look at the liberal mainstream media, look at hollywood, pop culture, all anti-trump. every day, 24 hours a day, there is news that is negative, negative, negative. maria: here's a headline -- >> there's a chaos. let's jump on the opportunity. maria: here's headline from larry summers, former treasury secretary from the obama administration and clinton administration, he wrote an op-ed in business insider and said walmart ceo is not fit to be the ceo unless he quits the trump council. >> but that's shaming. maria: that's what larry summers did, that's the pressure you are seeing. >> but we, listen, we're taking a little power away from the american people and the shareholders. if you're going to say that people are swayed just because larry summers put an op-ed out there, that's crazy. people have the ability to -- maria: somebody is shaming them. >> and i don't disagree with

you, maria. >> the court of public opinion. >> they can buy the shares. listen the ceo did not take off of -- he did thot leave the council yet. trump disbanded before the ceo left. he has not left. he didn't leave. we can't say larry summers made the ceo of walmart leave. >> the ceo of walmart did not leave. he did say he wished the president was stronger but never left. >> he never arrest. >> this is the new left. this is pressure, corporate pressure. >> i do not agree, this is not the new left. this is not the new left. maria: we will agree to disagree on that one. attorney general jeff sessions about to make a big announcement. we're on it after this. thank you, both for being here. appreciate it. stay with us.

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. maria: welcome back. in just over an hour from now, attorney general jeff sessions plans to hit chicago's political leadership in sanctuary city speech in miami. acting director john sandwig is with us, thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. maria: what do you want to say in terms of the border and sanctuary cities? is there something the government can be doing now so that these cities follow the law short of taking the federal funding away? >> well, i think we need to get together and talk, right? the problem is some of the

policies make sense, at the same time, the problem is that the federal government is taking a zero tolerance position to it. the truth is in the middle. we need balance, when have you places like cook county saying we're not going to let i.c.e. take anyone into custody. that is dangerous. have you cities like texas to get all the information from the immigrant communities we need to restrict the access we provide to i.c.e. it makes sense. problem is like all things immigration, everyone takes extreme positions and the public loses. maria: can you tell us what it is like at the border right now in terms of immigration? in terms of what we're dealing with? >> to be honest with you, the border is more quiet than ever before. maria: it is. >> numbers are way down. overall numbers coming into the united states are at lowest levels in decades, frankly. listen, i'd like to see additional investments into infrastructure at the border.

i don't think we need to double the border patrol anymore. i think we need technology that is proven to be useful. but, look, we have a real opportunity with the border under control to solve our nation's immigration problems, and again the problem is just the politics make it so difficult, when i think folks who are different sides of the aisle who are experienced in the immigration enforcement world, we could down and craft a bill that would solve the nation's problems quickly. maria: how do you solve it? >> look, you need make sure there is proper workforce to handle employment needs which we definitely need. it's not just about identifying american workers, it's about us competing with farms internationally in mexico. secondly, crack down on employers who cheat. put teeth into worksite enforcement laws. you hire undocumented immigrants, we're going to punish you. make it meaningful punishment. there are 11.5 million of them, the most i.c.e. can deport is 200,000. we can't get them all. ones who have criminal records,

safety threats, deport those. >> you values to have the contribution or the help from the local enforcement, right? and if the governor of a state or the mayor of the city is not following the law, and hiding criminals even, what does the government do? what does the federal government do? >> yeah, the reality is mostly sanctuary policies are window dressing. a lot of this is rhetoric and talk. i.c.e. is able to be in every state in america. state and local mayors can't stop them from enforcing the law. the issue is the jails, have you counties that have taken extreme positions, saying nobody, i don't care if we have a convicted felon, a murderer, illegal immigrant. we're not going to let i.c.e. take them into custody. obviously, that is ridiculous. but on the other hand, have you jurisdictions that are modest restrictions and say look, i'm a professional police chief, i know my community. if we take somebody arrested for speeding or driving without a license, we book them into

jail. i can't let i.c.e. grab them, it makes it harder to get informants, victims to come forward. maria: makes sense. >> defer to the chiefs on those issues. >> good to see you, thank you so much. >> good to see you. maria: back in a minute. parodontax, the toothpaste that helps prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. help stop the journey of gum disease. try parodontax toothpaste. ♪ . .

maria: welcome back. the well the president is set to head pack to bedminster, new jersey any minute. he will be leaving. we reported earlier the president said he disbanded his two ceo councils earlier this hour. we're looking at market

reaction, down, from the highs, up just 30 points right now on the dow industrials. fox business will have continuing coverage of fast moving developments. more coverage on tomorrow on "mornings with maria" at 6:00 a.m. on fbn. trish regan is here. trish: president disbanding his business councils after multiple ceos quit. president tweeting out moments ago, rather than putting pressure on the strategy councils i'm ending both. trying to get ahead of things here. you know why? none of these business leaders want to be associated with him right now because of that terrible performance at yesterday's press conference. that is what this is all about. there is no room for racism in america. there is no room for cover in america, for the latest i'm going to blake burman, outside of trump tower with more. blake, the business community is saying we've had enough. >> they a