stuart: this news we're bringing you as of now. there was a spike in google searches for eclipse headache immediately after the eclipse itself. on that note i will give you neil cavuto. neil: stuart, thank you very, very much. we're keeping an eye on the fallout from the president's speech last night. as you have already been hearing it is good for defense stocks. anything having to do with u.s. defense interests most notably bit likes of boeing, with a intercontinental ballistic missile contract with the united states government that could be paying handsome dividend for that company. anything boosting our defenses in light of the president's speech yesterday has been taking off. not so anything having to do, let's say with the government of pakistan. an exchange traded fund focusing on pakistani investments down 1.4%. it was down about 3/4 of a

percent yesterday. it has been dragging on indications that the president cited them as being kind of phony. you say you're with us with the war on terror but you've done more than enough to complicate our venture there. president trump is going to phoenix thursday night. the mayor of phoenix said president not to make the trip. a number of protest groups are expected. those attending and protesting, that the temperature is expected to be north of 100 degrees. might be a dry heat but it is still hot! we have former speaker of the house newt gingrich, best-selling author on the side. you were complimentary of the speech, reagan-like, complimentary terms. i wonder after a speech the

president can step on headlines or at a campaign rally or tweeting something that might take away. so far so good. what do you think? >> so far, so good because he hasn't done it. it will be fascinating to watch him tonight in yuma, and then in phoenix because he had a great speech last night. i thought it was an historic speech. i thought his honesty in his heart he really wanted to pull out, but as he listened to his advisors in his head he knew it was wrong. as president he felt he needed to follow his head to do what is right for america. that was a very, very impressive speech. now he has a chance to stay at that level. my hunch is he won't. i just think, i wrote understanding trump in part to try to understand trump. he has this compulsive requirement for getting in fights he doesn't need. and tonight, will be a very interesting test. you have got senator mccain,

very elder statesman, who is seriously ill. senator flake, up for re-election. both are part of the republican majority which is very narrow. mitch mcconnell needs both of them in order to be able to govern in the senate. picking fights with them doesn't get him anywhere. neil: talking about trying to get a primary challenge to the likes of jeff flake and others who dare to challenge the president. >> yeah. neil: now, look, what message would you send there? post the speech typical republican critics like john mccain, even lindsey graham were complimentary of the message he was sending on afghanistan. >> right. neil: how does he build on that? >> well the president's got a moment here where most of his conference is coming together behind him. he has a chance to be a team builder, not a team divider and let me make one point about people want to rush into these primary fights. if they would take the same amount of money against the democratic senator of north dakota, of montana, of

missouri, of indiana, of west virginia, these are all states that the president carried that have democratic senators. i would rather beat four or five democrats than get involved in these primaries. in fact my newsletter today at gingrich productions will say, republicans should target democrats, not republicans. i would say this to the president. you know, these are people who 95% of the time are with you. you want to be a team leader and if you add four or five more seats next year, it gets to be pretty easy to pass your program. but if all you do is chew up your own base, you have got a problem. neil: you know, newt, i don't mean to blow smoke at you, but one thing i respect you're not sick foe fantish. you said hope he doesn't follow up in a negative way to reverse progress he made last night but you worry. >> right. neil: i wonder, when the president talks to you or you get a chance to chat, what does

he think about, what does he think of your tv appearance when you come on? you're hardly a cheerleader but hardly a 24/7 critic. i'm wondering how that resonates? >> well, look, he doesn't particularly like being criticized either to his face or on television. i get a lot more positive phone calls if i'm busy taking on mueller or taking on the democrats or taking on "the new york times." he likes those appearances better. but i think, i think i have a unique position. i worked with reagan both in the campaign and then in the presidency. i helped create a majority in '94 for the first time in 40 years. i've been around long enough to see this dance on many sides and i try to represent the conservative movement and the republican party. neil: i know you do but how does he react, how does he react to that? how does he -- >> let me put it this way. he hasn't cut me off.

so i can still call him or go see him. but he doesn't exactly thank me for days we explicitly disagree. he will talk straight to you about it. i don't know that i penetrate very much. look, he starts out with a billionaire who beat 16 republicans, beat hillary clinton, sitting in oval office riding on marine one and air force one and why is he supposed to listen to me? there is a certain amount that fits the trumpers in the. on other hand i think he has gotten better. he is more part of a team today. it hit me, something i did not write about but in retrospect i should have, trump is essentially a golfer. golf is essentially a single game, you against the course. he is in a team sport where frankly football or basketball might be a better analogy and that require as very different psychology than golf. i think he is beginning to move in that direction. i'm just trying to encourage him to move a little faster.

neil: fascinating. newt gingrich, good seeing you again. thank you very much. >> good to see you. neil: the president as newt indicated will take off for arizona shortly but last night he resonate ad point on pakistan. take a listen. >> we have been paying pakistan billions and billions of dollars, at the same time they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting. but that will have to change and that will change immediately. neil: all right. it was unusual in citing pakistan as i told you. pakistani etf among other investments related there are not doing very well. former national security council staffer gillian turner. what did you make of bringing pakistan into this mix here? >> well i thought it was a good, strategic move by the president to call them out publicly. a, because it take as certain degree of courage to do that.

no secret to the policy making community in washington, while pakistan remains officially a u.s. ally over the last decade has not been terribly a great friend to us. they have lied to us time and time again about their affiliations. neil: why do we keep giving them money? 22 billion over a decade? >> on surface of things they keep recommitting themselves to be partners with the united states in terms of fighting terrorists, and they do make nominal steps in that direction. again, this is not a secret, when obama had special forces raid compound where osama bin laden was, he kept that a secret from the pakistanis. that is not a move you make when you trust a foreign ally and believe they will not undermine you. this is not a secret. it is time, we really, the united states took a firmer stand on pakistan. >> what does that mean?

we're citing or calling out pakistan, unlike a lot of people i caught the president's speech, obviously we covered it. there were not a lot of specifics. for good reason you don't want to tell number of troops, where they are committed, what they are going to do, i understand that but by throwing in pakistan what was he then implying? we are open to escalating a conflict there or what? >> i don't know that we're open, you know, militarily escalating any kind of conflict with pakistan but i think the president was trying to lift the veil a little bit and really be aboveboard about the fact he knows what is going on and he is not really going to tolerate it. what he does subsequently to follow up on that will probably amount to a whole lot of diplomatic pressure. that is the route you want to take first when you want someone to do something that is in your own national security interests. to touch on the other point about not broadcasting plans, i think the president went further

last night than he has ever gone before though he didn't give us numbers or give us a timeline, went further than ever before in terms of laying out a vision for the region and a strategy as it may be. that was welcome to people like myself who have been wanting him to do that for a long time. neil: you know, jillian, the president will be taking off, we're watching marine one right now, heading to joint base andrews or will take off for arizona, then a rally there, do you worry, after a very big speech sometimes the president can step on his own progress the next day? newt gingrich intimated that much. is this the same situation, gravitas of the speech, no campaign event would wipe the significance of that out? >> to be honest it is a worry. if i was working in white housecoms i would be concerned about today.

once the president gave the first speech last night with his commander-in-chief hat on where he lace out the united states role in the world and the middle east. i think he garner ad little capital jed. if i want were him i might want to bask on that a couple days, like going to a political rally, where there is risk of saying things that are not preapproved and everybody in the world wants to hear. it is rather close on the heels for my taste but clearly something president feels comfortable. it's a risk we'll have to take. we'll see how it goes, gillian, thanks. nice to see you again. >> thanks, neil. neil: stocks are up, defense related issues and boeing the single biggest contributor right now. boeing benefiting from intercontinental ballistic missile repair contract.

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neil: all right. the president boarding air force one. he is en route to arizona today. we've got former new mexico governor democrat bill richard son. governor, good to have you. this is the day after the president's big address how to handle afghanistan and the growing signal he is sending to the region, even north korea by extension. but the north koreans department agitating, recently saying they would use absolute force if the u.s. and south korea hold and continue to hold the military drills. what do you think of that? >> i feel the president of afghanistan yesterday addressing the country, coming through with policy, he should do the same with north korea. put out a comprehensive policy. address the country. i think north korea is more of a threat than the situation in afghanistan. and you know, this is what i would like to see in a president. not tweeting.

not responding after a press conference. not getting mad. having a comprehensive policy after a meeting at camp david. listening to his advisors. you know i have some recent vases about the policy but i would like the process that he followed. neil: back and forth there are a lot of democratic analysts last night, governor, who were saying there is no real clear objectives still from president trump, yet you could just as easily said the same about barack obama, couldn't you? >> well, you're talking about afghanistan and north korea? neil: yes. >> well i think, i think the policy that president trump is following in afghanistan is sort of in between not having troops and an all right troop effort. i think it's a policy that need to be, needs to be explained but at the same time putting more pressure on pakistan i believe makes sense. don't overdo it because they have 200 million people.

they have nuclear weapons, but they are harboring terrorists. don't play them off against inyaw, i sensed a little bit the speech said. -- india. same problems in pakistan, we have to train their people. the president was right saying that. we have to train the afghan forces. we have to find ways to end the corruption there. there is huge corruption in afghanistan. in north korea as long as we don't keep talking about preemptive military strike and talk about more sanctions, diplomacy, lay it out, lay it out to the country. i have been a critic of the president but i will say i thought the speech yesterday well-reasoned. it seemed he knew the issue and that is what i want to do. neil: governor, if you don't mind there, is effort led by nancy pelosi in congress to censure the president. how do you feel about that over these remarks on charlottesville?

>> well, you know, i'm a fan of nancy pelosi. i served in the congress with her. i wouldn't be supportive of this resolution. i think, you know, i think there are better ways to direct our energies, not pushing for the president's health care plan, many other initiatives. but i will tell you this, if the president goes down and pardons sheriff joe arpaio, i might change my mind with you, neil, on that question, on the censure. i think that would abhor rend does message to the whole country. somebody that has broken the law to get pardon? forget the immigration -- neil: wait a minute. presidents over the years, granted 30,000 pardons to fugitives, malcontents, ne'r-do-wells. marc rich comes to mind, host of others. hardly new ground here whether you like joe arpaio or not, right? >> no, no. neil, listen, arpaio would

arrest you and me because we have black hair. that is what he would do. i mean this guy is overextended. he defied courts. he has defied the law. neil: wait a minute. i'm just saying there are degrees of difference here. i'm saying first of all, joe arpaio was not invited to this arizona event tonight. we don't even know if the president is thinking of pardoning him. >> right. neil: but it's a slippery slope when we start judging validity of pardons, right? >> not with this one, not for me anyway. neil: all right. you're stating your opinion. let me switch gears, very, quickly, governor. i want to get your thoughts, i mentioned the effort on part of nancy pelosi to censure the president on remarks. now she is following up wanting to remove any confederated statues in the u.s. capitol. i'm thinking she has been there 100 years, so why now? why is this a big deal to you now? >> well, i, you know, i haven't, i served in the congress.

i remember going through all those statues. i think, you know the states should have a role in this. there should be votes in the congress. these statues are divisive but they're also a part of history. you know, i just think that the congress spend more time on issues, on jobs, on, on infrastructure, on foreign policy. that's what i want them to get back to now that they come back from their recess instead of these divisive issues, but i will say, neil, it was all started, this confederate issue by the president's very ill-advised remarks in charlottesville. he started all this. neil: but they were doing this confederate statue thing for a while. you think it get as little extreme now when they talk about, some extreme, i stress extremes, blowing up mount rushmore or demolishing stone mountain in georgia, they feature, case of mount rushmore,

i was mystified, two of the members there, teddy roosevelt, abraham lincoln i think would get a pass on the slave thing but that is just me. >> well, yeah. that is overdoing it. there is a lot of overdoing. neil: that's true. >> so let's focus on issues. but i will say this, i don't think that resolution, the censure, i wouldn't support it, i like nancy pelosi. she has been a good leader but i i'll tell you -- neil: you think she has been a good leader, do you think she should, if democrats should rethink who they want leading them in the house win or lose next year? >> no. she has done a good job a good policy person. a good fund-raiser. there are a lot of new young guys that have enormous potential but i think right now, i think schumer is doing a good job. i think nancy is doing a good job. i do. maybe i'm old-fashioned. maybe i'm old. i am old. neil: governor, you're not that old. thank you very much.

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neil: all right. welcome back, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. you're watching "coast to coast." we're just learning, coming from sheriff joe arpaio himself. he was not invited, he said to this donald trump campaign event in phoenix. now, again, if that is so, it could put a kibosh on early talk that the president was inclined to pardon him after the sheriff was found guilty of criminal contempt. but again, that, could be another added development here.

the president nevertheless going to arizona to state his case after he made the case to the nation for more troops in afghanistan. just sort of rallying the base there even though the two senators in that particular state, john mccain, jeff flake are hardly huge fans of his of late. john mccain did commend the president on the afghanistan remarks. still phoenix mayor, greg stanton, he is a democrat, urged the president did not make the trip, in light of charlottesville would do more harm than good. the timing is bad. the white house ignored the requests and protest groups are out there, among the president's fans. whether that is trouble, too soon to tell, the president is going regardless. let's talks to gerry seib, "wall street journal" executive washington editor, joins us out of washington and amy holmes. the president is going with this trip when the democratic mayor

thought he shouldn't go particularly after charlottesville timing. >> we should not be inhibited by the freedom of each. we can support the president and counter protest the protest and this is a night to voice that in constructive way. i don't think that president should be in hiding. neil: that might have been political, danielle, don't come, mr. president. >> isn't everything? i agree with amy. i think this should go ahead. i'm hoping that the president himself doesn't ramp up rhetoric too much because need to lead by example. so he needs to say to the folks who are there for him and folks not for him that we can have a dialogue because this is the only way to move forward together for the good of the country. neil: gerri seib, i was catching your comments on "wall street journal" video, which is really cool, gerri -- gerry i mind out pout. >> thank you.

neil: what i harken back if the president can make a grand speech, meaningful, substantive speech, not all the time but ruin it the next day either with a tweet or campaign event where he says something, you know, politically incorrect. you know the drill. i'm wondering how he follows up in arizona tonight? >> well, first of all i don't know. second of all maybe he doesn't even know. he seems to judge the situation by the way he feels at the moment sometimes. i was sort of taken by something newt gingrich tweeted today which he advised the president, this would be a good occasion to look more presidential and a little less confrontational. i think, you know, as was just discussed, turn the temperature down a bit. we'll see. i think it is really hard to predict. some may depends what kind of crowd shows up too. as with anybody who speaks in public, i think president is sometimes swept along a bit by the atmosphere that he find himself in. i think that is a great unknown as we head into tonight. neil: you know, it is funny,

amy, what gerry said, when we had newt gingrich here to follow up what he advised president to do he echoeded again with us at top of the show he doesn't want to step on the message. i'm paraphrasing here. >> right. neil: sometimes he can risk doing that. this is totally different event from what he was doing last night but how does he play it now? obviously markets are up, largely on the idea he kind of righted himself a little bit here? what do you think? >> a lot of people, including myself, watching the speech, thought the preamble speaking to the troop and sacrifices they make, hopes when they come back to this country, they're coming back to a country united in love and mutual respect. that was going a long way to sort of try -- >> that was not by accident, right? >> no. i wouldn't say so. but of course, the challenge for the president is to stick to that. and not being reactive and emotional, particularly if the crowd tonight is rambunctious or raucous, that he has hecklers that he needs to restrain himself. neil: one was scripted speech.

he is very good at that with scripted remarks for second ones after charlottesville to clarify his position. then he went off script in that press conference. but, what do you think, danielle? >> we're going to see whether we'll see trump unleashed or trump sticking to the, sticking to the script. i take amy's point. the speech last night tolerance, diversity, inclusion was very clearly directed at righting the ship based on what happened to charlottesville and his response to it. he is more popular in arizona than many other parts of the country. he attacked both flake and mccain. i wonder if he will do that again. this is campaign rally. we have seen in a way we haven't seen with prior presidents, there are two tracks here, trump the president and trump the candidate for 2020. we'll see which one comes out tonight. >> it's a challenge to his new chief of staff, general kelly, that you know last night i think people also attributed the new tone with the departure of steve

bannon and general kelly being able to impose some discipline again tonight. you never know. neil: gerry, i think, you follow this a lot more closely than i so i will defer to you on this, but i wonder, i think the president really, really wants to have order and sort of a procedure going forward in the white house. intention with putting john kelly in chief of staff role, getting rid of bannon as we were saying to right the ship but it is sort of like i don't know the fat person, use myself, with the trainer, you know, the dietician but lose the weight, right? in other words you can talk a good game, can do everything that would set up the kind of changes you want to make but you can't do it. what do you think? >> i don't think you put john kelly in as chief of staff unless you want more order and i don't think you ask steve bannon to leave unless you think that will add to the sense of order

and process in the white house. and i think everybody on all side agrees there was a need for more order and more process. neil: including the president. >> including the president. i think you're exactly right. everything he has done the last few weeks suggests he wants to move into that direction but not by nature and history a process guy. he is a gut guy. i think you framed it right, neil, that is the tension within. i don't think the president's intentions setting up the new operation, if that is the right way to put it can be in doubt. seems there is no question he wants a more orderly process. whether he gets it and lets it operate that way are still unknowns. that is where we are i think. neil: newt gingrich had his doubts when he was here. he commended the president, thinks very highly of the president. had his doubts whether he sticks to that. >> only 20 four hours later. to extend his metaphor, put the lock on the bridge and hide the key. neil: we'll see what happens.

do you think the president really clearly wants to do it, jettisoned some of his friend and people that took him along for the ride, he wants this to work and he will do his damnest to try? >> i do believe, neil, the addition of kelly was really important way to bring order to that white house. neil: changing his mind on afghanistan. acknowledging something that he -- >> absolutely. absolutely. so many of us watch trump the candidate knowing so many of his positions were really untenable in the real world. i guess full credit to him. there may be a cost to his base frankly. maybe we'll see him rile them up again tonight to acknowledge a man who campaigned on gut instinct, faced realities of the presidency and deaths of soldiers on his hands able to listen to his generals to have a path forward grounded in fact and clear evaluation, instead of gut. >> remember he course corrected during the campaign when that

seemed it was in chaos, he won the nomination. he put kellyanne fitzpatrick, conway, i knew her when she was fitzpatrick, here in charge, got rid of paul manafort. neil: and later on bannon. >> later on bannon correct. neil: president is heading to phoenix. protesters are there we're told ready to greet him. they will put up a lot of heat. we don't know how many protesters. hillary vaughn is there with the latest. hey, hillary. >> reporter: we're hearing 3,000 protesters here in arizona. this is the first trip to arizona as commander-in-chief. he won the state in november but hasn't won every arizonian. both senators from arizona, jeff flake and john mccain are openly critical of the president's policies. we're expecting a lot of protesters to show up and sound off. even phoenix's own mayor, greg stanton, says the president's visit to phoenix is not a good idea. saying quote, america is hurting

and hurting that trump has roused racial tensions with gasoline. with his planned trip to phoenix on tuesday i fear the president is looking to light a match. if the president's first prime time address to the nation, president trump didn't inflame tensions. instead lit a flame of unity. >> when we open our hearts to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice, no place for bigotry, and no tolerance for hate. the young men and women we send to fight our wars abroad deserve to return to a country that is not at war with itself at home. we can not remain a force for peace in the world if we are not at peace with each other. >> reporter: we are here in phoenix for thousands of people will see the president speak at 7:00 p.m. local time, 10 p.m. eastern.

supporters are camped out here. they tell us number one thing they want the president to talk about are the plan for making america safer at boarder. not just abroad. trump has taken heat from people from his own party putting pressure on arizona senator jeff flake, facing a primary challenger in the midterm election calling flake weak on boarders. trump will stop by the u.s. mexican border in yuma, arizona, before he comes here to rally supporters in phoenix. the county of yuma said they have seen a 83% drop in border crossings. they say president trump's executive orders on immigration played a large part making that happen. neil. neil: hillary vaughn, thank you very much. president will make the address to phoenix, 7:00 p.m. their time, 10 p.m. eastern time. fox business will cover it live. corner of wall and broad, the markets are pouncing on president's remarks, lifting defense stocks.

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neil: the issue is not only sanctuary cities but sank wear schools in those cities that shield students and their families from immigration authorities. it is a bit of a cottage industry to protect the kids at all cost, even preventing immigration officials to do anything to move in on them or find out anything about them.

to the center for immigration studies jessica vaughn on efforts to deal with this. you know, jessica, the way it sound like right now, is that they're going to do their darnedest, that is these school systems to prevent a crackdown on these kid or finding anything out about their parents. in 1982 supreme court decision says all children living in america have the legal right to attend public schools regardless of their immigration status. now in four 1/2 million individual students cases one or the other or both parents are not here legally. so where is this going? is this protected in law that they can be right where they are? >> well, that's, yes, that the prevailing view this case, filer v. d.o.e. solidified the right of all children, including children here illegally in

school. children should be in school, but what does this does you know line there is real cost to failing to secure our borders. that is why it is so important to control the borders, keep people from overstaying their visas. one of the benefits of that we don't have so many illegal alien kids in schools. but the idea of sanctuary policies to protect them is kind of silly because i.c.e. and the border patrol do not go around arresting kids at recess. the only unusual scenario where they might actually want to arrest an illegal alien student might be a case like in rockville, maryland, where you have got these students who are 20 years old and gang members a threat to people. they would do it in that situation but i.c.e. is -- neil: wait a minute. if they had suspicions that there were illegal there, illegals at the school, i could see the provocation there if you

have a suspicion that, wait, we're going to a grade school, this guy has a full beard, we have to do something, i understand there is a difference there. in oakland they're going so far to say oakland schools are sanctuary schools. you're welcome here. they're bragging about it. >> this is really a problem of the public school system used to be a unifying force in our country. this kind of message they're sending, it is okay for you to be here illegally, we're here to protect you, this is subversive and troubling to the taxpayers that fund these school systems. that is a problem. if you're sending a message, we'll get between you and the federal government doing its legitimate and constitutional authority, most americans and legal immigrants want enforced, it is important that our immigration laws be enforced and they will try to undermine that. neil: how do you enforce them,

right? if you have one million kids undocumented. those additional born here 4 million one or both parents are undocumented, if, they fear, these sanctuary schools fear that president trump is building up these, you know, immigration forces to crack down on this sort of thing, to go into the school, to get information on the students, can they do that now? do they do that now? >> they don't need to do that. what immigration enforcement is focused on the parents who are here. and, if those parents are going to be deported, then, the logical thing for them to do is to take their kids with them. we want families to stay together, and there is no reason they can't take their children back to their home country with them. i think that is what most parents would do. and so i.c.e. isn't going to use the kids. really activist groups are

trying to use these kids as a human shield against deportation. i think that's wrong to use them as props. neil: jessica vaughn, thank you very, very much. good seeing you again. >> good to see you. neil: mark zuckerberg, big threat to the president, so much so the trump campaign already thinking about to is -- 2020, is making note about the young billionaire that could be a threat, after this. ♪ switch to flonase allergy relief. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. flonase helps block 6. most allergy pills only block one and 6 is greater than 1. with more complete relief you can enjoy every beautiful moment to the fullest. flonase. 6 is greater than 1 changes everything.

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♪ neil: wonder how many likes mark zuckerberg gets because the guy runs facebook? we're told with this 50-state tour he is doing, maybe he wants to run for president of the united states. and maybe the trump white house is concerned enough to have him on a list of worries for 2020? connell mack shen and deirdre bolton, on billionaires running for office, particularly this one. >> facebook stock is up 36% in last 12 months. wildly outperforming the s&p 500. he put this is facebook post on may 21st. some of you asked if this challenge means i am running for public office. i am not. neil: right. they all say that.

>> they all say that. this list of people he has hired, right,, pluff, ken medical men, this is pretty powerful team. neil: reason for donald trump to be worried? >> right. he hired for them to work on his philanthropic initiative but they're in-house now. >> the first video is harvard commencement speech he made. i went back a few minutes ago. i watched a little bit of it. this guy has no plans to run for president. after i watched it, maybe he does. it was the type of speech, i'm not saying, by the way he is not jfk or reagan or even donald trump but the type of speech you make if you're interested in running for office, talking about plans for the future and this type of -- things that government can do -- neil: as democrat, right? liberal views. give everyone a stipend. >> 100%. not only democrat, but he is, we keep having debates about globalist or nationalist. mark zuckerberg for all other things we can say ultimate

globalist. ultimate seen as elitist. after this election we have went through, trump voters, people that made donald trump president, this is the guy, this is stereotypical, but the guy they say, no, no, not him. neil: a lot of people believe it or not didn't know him that well when he first ran for mayor. of course he switched to republican to have open field. and he did but billionaire. he can pay for a lot of very slick ads. he had a pretty compelling message. smart guy whether you agree or not politically with him but it worked. someone like zuckerberg who is arguably a pretty smart guy, has a lot of money to burn. >> he has the cash. forbes put him at something like $76 billion is his net worth. essentially look what hillary clinton spent or president trump spent in the fall, i mean, he could pay 1% of his net worth -- neil: party wouldn't have to raise any money for him. >> that would be all his. neil: that would be all his. >> but they would if they needed to. money matters less in presidential politics, mike

bloomberg become mayor of new york and did largely because he had lot of money and ideas and new york much different place than rest of the country. his ideas were accepted here than they would be. mike bloomberg may have wanted to be president but he wasn't going to be. neil: he put the kibosh. >> he wasn't going to win. >> in that harvard clip was zuckerberg speak about the universal income? >> yes. >> so that will really, people will love that, that is like sanders -- that is what i was thinking cynically. neil: we're told the white house is keeping this list of potential, you know challenges in 2020. >> yeah. neil: among them on republican side a challenge by john kasich who poo-poos the idea. kasich the ohio, governor has been the president's biggest critic. >> consistently, right? neil: i'm wondering whether they have the right to fear? >> well, listen, as far as older establishment is concerned, right, when covering all of this in the pre-election season, i mean he and jeb bush were the most logical picks, right?

he was governor of ohio, a state that many people look to as a bell wetter. i mean he really did a good job there. of course president trump had a few things to say why he did well. neil: bottom line, ted kennedy constantly dismissed the possibility he would challenge jimmy carter in 1980 and he did. what would it take to do that? >> i think case i can wants to run and become president, just reading the tea leaves. the chances of him appealing to the base in the republican party are the same -- neil: big challenge. >> he would face the same problems he faced last time around. neil: president has to be imploding for someone else to pop up? >> that is probably right. neil: thank you both very much. the dow up 152 points. we're keeping an eye on that and the president's big address in arizona after this. that can be really serious... especially for my precious new grandchild. including those around new babies, should talk to their doctor or pharmacist about getting vaccinated.

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neil: all right, it is always dangerous as we look at this take any into a single event. obviously, the biggest catalyst was the market demand right now, defense and related issues and i would say the catalyst for that would be what the president is a potentially expanding in afghanistan. he never spelled out the 4000 number you hear talked about, just that it would be a commitment for troops and beyond that he wasn't going to give any details, but they get into those details later, most notably

bowling and not sort of thing. the fact of the matter is even in the system arena, which is of course the big reason it is up a lot today. pakistan investments not so much. it is not a reliable ally in our war on terror and this could be a war we take command sometimes. started jumping to that is one of the reasons it has been suffering of late and not such a promising investment u.s. is going to crack down. not a big surprise. speaking of all things having to do with the secretary of state, rex tillerson slated to hold a press refrain must than an hour from now. the president about this commitment to more troops, more aggressive timeline to see that we get to the bottom of all of this later on. the former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us on all of the

above. ambassador, i am wondering as i look at the stock surge in defense related issues, whether they are jumping the gun, no pun intended, getting two ahead of themselves. what do you think? >> as you say, this beach was pretty scarce on details. we'll see that come out over the next several weeks and months. remember, the president has said on a number of occasions his initial budget does have an uptick for defense. congress has raised it in his authorizing an appropriation process even further. they are sending missile defense he proposed. to increase defense spending significantly. >> he included this to pakistan and you are worried about the reliability and honestly of the pakistanis.

$22 billion, what have we gotten for that? >> i think pakistan is a very difficult question. if we could deal with those taliban come out connie network, isis and al qaeda have in pakistan. the difficulty is pakistan itself is very complex spirit of applying more pressure would've ended the war in afghanistan, we could've done it years ago. in those nuclear weapons would be iran and north korea on steroids.

how we deal with pakistan is stacy. they cannot be ignored if you are going to do a south asia strategy is china. china made pakistan a nuclear weapon state. china is putting even more billions into pakistan. building infrastructure to make pakistan in what they call the one belt one road project, china's a chinese mercantile investments. unless they help us get pakistan get these terrorists. tree into how do you think the president's speech resonated to the north koreans? he was making a lot of clear references bear to those who wish to fail. >> apart from the lack of specificity, the most important aspect last night was to make it

clear to everybody he's not barack obama when it comes to afghanistan. and he was quite frank. i've been trying to look at examples in earlier presidential speeches or he said i started up my instinct which is usually pretty good was to get out. i've been persuaded not to get out. that's as honest a politician as reversing field in a long time. i think that had to have a powerful impact on people who thought he was going to be as isolationist or obama. the irony here is obama try to turn america in where they gutted our military and needs to send the quandary we faced on so many different places. term project that appeared it may not have been as militarily robust to speak to some of his advisors would've liked, but he gets the basic point. we don't get to decide the war on terrorism is over when they decide it's over. is killing innocent civilians. i'd rather fight the terrorists in the mountains of afghanistan

and pakistan than on the streets of america. train to ambassador, thank you very much geared >> thank you, neil. trade deal after widely acclaimed speech, not everyone is agreeing with every single detail, but the market reaction the president somewhat righted his rickety ship here, and especially after and horrifically collapsed week. again, that can sometimes be undone by common the president makes her the campaign event and that is coming out today in pennsylvania. it might not be an event that will hurt the president come but let's get the rebound that in arizona tonight -- [inaudible] are you still worry that the president will be able to continue the momentum and gravatar buechel abbas made today? >> you saw last night he pivoted off charlottesville and a bad

week he had had the week before. it was a strong speech last night, neil appeared if you look at the ratings around 35 million people watched it. it reminded me when we addressed the nation in february, if he goes to the speech tonight, i would look for a couple things. in yuma, arizona, that would excite the base. they think of the also sticks to national security issues, that would help them as well. i hope he continues to move away from that. neil: sheriff arpaio said he is not going to go to this event tonight. it was found guilty of criminal contempt. i imagine in light of the charlottesville has been put back. what you make of that?

>> i think that is a wise decision and perhaps this is chief of staff john kelly of the communications team being able to take the lead. look what happens when president donald trump follows his communications staff. he gets eloquent, good, strong speeches. he inspires the nation. however, his rallies are his form of stress relief to be showered in love by all of his adoring fans if you will. it will be fairly typical at the rallies we've seen before. however, i do think of course he will be talking at the border, how border walls were, how we need to push that. i think you'll be fairly standard. >> you know, i always wonder the president come i do want to raise this with you as well. the president really does want to take the advice of generals under his initial aversion to extending and a commitment in afghanistan. he's putting john kelly is chief of staff trying to instill an order that is absent in his own running at the white house.

i think his heart is in the right place whether you agree with where that place is and where you want to be going. but he gets in the way of it, right? i am wondering now relying on more stability to provide it and get rid of those who were volatile and others before it. whether he's getting closer to that. what do you think? >> i know if he's getting closer to it, but resonated as a shield vulnerability and i think the american people loved that about him. they wanted to be strong, but last night he said it clearly. i didn't want it to increase troop levels and i wanted to get out of afghanistan but i listen to what is best in the vulnerability really is heartfelt and a resonated with the american people with 35 million of them. that is where he needs to pay that to now and put last week behind him. neil: i'm glad you mentioned

that because the fact that he changed his mind and said that he was persuaded by generals he used to say. what did you make of that is the first time i've heard him ever acknowledge a pivot and furthermore that he was wrong. >> it's extremely important. it perhaps just a minute humbleness we haven't seen in the past. it also strikes a democratic talking point where we are asking all of the cabinet to resign. trump comes out and says no actually i changed my mind based on the cabinet and the staff behind me in a kind of makes you sit back and say no, no, actually we want all of the support structure around donald trump because perhaps those people like bannon leave, those people have an influence to make a much more rational and get him going in a more stable direction. neil: i want to thank you both very, very much.

of course covering the president's remarks live at 10:30 p.m. eastern 7:00 p.m. arizona time. we are getting the as of yet another change, this one involving chevron ceo john watson is to step down on "the wall street journal." this is at a time when the energy industry, when you think of exxonmobil and rex tillerson moving out of that job to become donald trump secretary of state and the energy companies wrestling with finding alternatives to traditional oil and fossil fuel and get ready for more varied energy no matter who's in the white house. no clear transition has been finalized. another oil industry kingpin is leaving. we will have more after this.

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that of course this comes at a time the president of the united states and mitch mcconnell have been going at each other. sometimes coyly, sometimes indirectly, but undeniably and more to the point of too much but obviously in washington there is a way things go and the way things do not go. after seven years of republicans trying to come up with an alternative, it was not none that they had more than enough time long before he came to pennsylvania avenue to do that and they didn't do that. of course he questioned whether mitch mcconnell was all that up to the job to which mitra, ben of course added these common on fake news. gerri willis on all of these developments and what to make of it. i think it is fair to say that

these guys have a fractious relationship and i'm wondering going forward whether it's going to get in the way of getting anything done. >> i absolutely think it's a problem. you have to sit back and think does congress ever get to the bottom line at the bottom line. no, they don't. they never think of the impact of the debt over time. i have to tell you we are looking not tragically. neil: one of the things we do see what the dead is the same issue. you have mitch mcconnell saying we won't have a problem with the debt ceiling, but there were some in the administration, including the budget director who wouldn't mind attaching provisos to that. unlike what you hear out of the treasury secretary. is everyone on the same page, willy-nilly and the question asked question or >> i don't and everybody's on the same page and seven months

now nobody ever seems to get on the same page. i don't see really frankly the white house has been a big conservatory, right? they seem to want to do what they want to do. >> always wonder the white house says congress has been doing enough. congress goes back and says you did little to champion and push for health care effort. mr. president, we didn't even know what you wanted. also hinting the same in taxes. the administration comes back and says for god sakes, taxes should be easier to do than health care, back and forth and back and forth. it's quite a family food fight. >> it's astonishing to me that the party general, the white house, senate, that they've had all this time to craft their personal answers to every quandary we face, whether it's high debt, health care and they have nothing. they have nothing to give, nothing of the floor to sit with

one voice this is what we want to do. look at the democrats. they are just the opposite. they seem to march in lockstep most of the time. >> lockstep is against anything. neil: we are hearing from our capitol hill producer that they're investigating the capitol police suspicious tactics on the steps of the capitol. he has been closed off right now. we'll keep you posted on not. it is what happens inside the capitol hill building or lack of things inside the capitol building waiting on folks. paul ryan has indicated he's very confident taxes get done this year. i don't know, the timetable seems very delicate. >> i don't see how it happens just as a practical matter. whether left or right, get this done. they've got 23 days of vacation scheduled through the end of the year.

all kinds of time offered in the number of days the house and senate are in business in september together is only like 12 i think. >> they've got to come up with the budget and then presumably perform an agreement on the tax policy that moderates like mitch mcconnell has had better be paid for. better be paid for means better not be too big. >> people on the other side said it doesn't matter. we can spread out our debt at the end of the date is going to pay for that? neil: conservatives are the one who say you need a substantial tax cut or tax reform and we will endure bigger deficits in the enron and reagan taught us the money comes in. my fear with bat and i supported a tax cut that once you have a way of spending the revenue and compounding that problem, but no one seems to be exactly on the same page here.

>> is not why we raise the debt ceiling every single year because we spend that money to begin with. there are no brakes on spending then it seems to me at the job of republicans to be that party and they don't seem to want to do it. >> what you make of the fact that mark and sarah. coming often horrific week and maybe he can get his act together with the perception he was in disarray anyway. when you make of that? are they getting ahead of themselves again or not? >> i think it is a tough question. i look at the performance, the circle of time, the many faces of trump that we see. the occasional trump was conciliatory, reaching across the aisle, the attitude and a lot of his comments last night which seemed like a measured, responsible. neil: going to a campaign rally.

>> really? i have my questions and i know a lot of people out there, big boosters of trump i understand that. so when i need some common voice because some voices strained like he showed last night, see that continue over the next days, weeks, months. neil: if he does that, he might he back. thank you very much. we are still trying to find out what the heck is going on capitol hill right now. police investigate what was apparently a suspicious package on the rotunda steps of the east plaza. i believe that is what side the house design. i hope i'm right on not. they are shut down. a little more after this. when you have something you love, you want to protect it. at legalzoom,

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nonpolitical statement here. they just want to see the president is strong enough for viable enough to get a tax cut agenda through. but often permeates the thinking here. while it was unveiling the terror and boosting our commitment of forces in afghanistan, it was deemed to be a speech for the united states and the chance for him to write his political shape after a tough week last week. they are encouraged by that and the prospect they will see the things they been wanting to see. the last seven or eight months as tax reform, tax cuts, the relief they been waiting for. blake burman with the white house and what they might be excited for. what are you hearing? >> this is just around the corner. this big push for tax reform. speaking out with folks not only

here at the white house to capitol hill today. in terms of the white house as it relates to the president, you can expect the possibility of a fairly good intrinsic session the president's speeches, rallies events, et cetera. that is what i was told today as it relates to president trump. inside this building here, and an all hands on deck movement is someone i know you know very well, tony say it now making his way over temporarily for this texture and push, part of his specialty. they are building things up to the white house point of view. people i've spoken with or appearing on capitol hill, there is this sense of optimism they are moving in the right direction at this. i was speaking with a republican source a little while ago who told me they have about 90% of things agreed upon. 90% of health care reform isn't

necessarily 100% in the house and senate, but folks feel this is moving in the right direction. one of the big items with all of this is the corporate tax rate. as an trump campaign on 15%. house republicans, paul ryan talked about a 20% rate. only if the gap there, but significantly lower. white house official telling me in at this point it is in the hands of the committee as it relates to corporate taxes, whatever the committees can get the votes on his likely where this thing is set to settle. neil: even though it looks like mitch mcconnell and others are going to set on something very, very big. they want to address write-offs to address the write-offs. worth is ultimately going? >> mcconnell talked about preferences, these write-offs, deductions you can eliminate.

you can lower the rate even more. i'm told from somebody i was speaking with today that they've agreed to the top line things, eliminating territoriality is, issues involving money back overseas. so they've agreed on a lot of this stuff. this was put to me if they know what ingredients they want. now just trying to figure out how much of this, how much of that to sprinkle into the pot. neil: real quickly. i hate to keep indulging. i don't think these tax cuts are going to be huge. that's my own read. >> in terms of corporate crime a story floated out today that maybe it could get down to 20, 25 with baby with deductions a 35 it doesn't make it much higher than not. folks i was speaking to wait me out for that. everyone you speak to say look, 15 of the goal, 20 years ago,

but everybody understands the reality that this is a negotiation the more people you bring in potential he picks up to 20, 21, maybe 22 maybe 22. they're optimistic this could stay within that 15 to 20 range. neil: blake irvin marion nestlé boycott in all individual rates across the board. again, a battle between moderates and conservatives. supply-siders, go big. moderates, those who want to pay right up front from the beginning don't go crazy. meanwhile, a big fan of making sure the tax cut comes up, but then he got in the way. getting some heat for posting a figure wearing designer clothes on a government plane saying have you given more to the economy in the ni has been, either as an individual honor

intact as her self-sacrifice to your country? i'm pretty sure we pay more taxes than you did. pretty sure the amount we sacrifice for years is a lot more than you'd be willing to sacrifice if the choice is yours. you are adorably out of touch. neil: okey-dokey. where is murray and when that? the advisory board member matt hayworth from ohio, dennis kucinich, welcome to you both. i understand about the rich pay more in taxes. they do. but she could not have been more condescending, elitist or dismissive. >> i know. if you want to turn a tempest in a fine china to a boiling storm, that's just the way to do it. as they understand it, her trip was paid for by the secretariat of personal funds.

she paid for separately by their funds. this is all her money go into her outfit. tree into why tweet about our hashtag about all you have. >> apparently that is something she's known for doing. she's got her own career, her own money and nobody made a fuss. tree into this with macy's. >> in very well-worn and my dad. neil: she just hurts the cause. >> nobody made a fuss when michelle obama went on a shopping trip bring $500 sneakers. neil: we were paying for the sneakers. i know where you're coming from. i know where the treasury secretary's wife is coming from. hey look, we pay a lot in taxes than they do. there is no comparing the two wells as steve mnuchin to the

average joe or joanne, including this woman who sent this message to his wife. what do you think of all of that? >> were coming in the upcoming asp error class tensions in america. we know the reasons why. but i think that the mnuchin should just be given some slack as far as his wife, she's learning about public life i'm sure. this is very embarrassing for her. the question that i have is that president trump's policy is going to be. how can you continue to prosecute war in afghanistan and cut taxes and then ask people to lift the debt ceiling. that is a larger issue that needs to be looked at. it frankly is a diversion. >> one of the things i always think of is this notion of the rich and whether they should pay

more regardless of whether they are very rich by the mnuchin are those that are well-to-do if they are over 250,000. i guess we know the rich pay by far the majority of the taxes but the bigger worry is this gets in the way of the fact that if you were paying into this at all in for some good reasons, been under half, that is not sustainable. >> it is not. it's a very complicated and challenging situation. those of us who have something that stake when tax rates are raised, the likelier it is we will overburden the folks who are especially which we are

striving, stuart varney talking about that. income taxes are the ones trying to climb up the ladder of success. mnuchin made it. i hope secretary mnuchin succeeds in creating tax reform that provides for everyone to have the opportunity to invest in to benefit from those investments into work and to prosper. best but want to see everybody able to do. trained to do you think steve mnuchin and his wife had conversations post this revolution because all of this instagram stuffed was taken down later on. if you think about it, even though he's been a financier, i am curious when you're running for president or in congress, did you have to check what your wife said? did you have to check with family members? did you kind of keep an eye on each other? >> well, yeah, i am fortunate

for my wife has given many interviews and has the sense of what approach to take. i want to go back to this issue as steve mnuchin and his wife. look, it is a diversion. let's look at the real issue. when you have a discussion of cutting taxes, without talking about how the government is spending money, that's an incomplete discussion. i believe we need to start talking about why we are spending hundreds of billions on war, money we are giving away to corporations in various concessions. america has to have a discussion about the government money. you can talk about both. neil: you can talk about both. >> it is up to all of us. dennis is exactly right. look not only at the way we tax, but yes the way we spend. unless this government concentrates on spending as

well, the president is actively trying to do that. tax reform will fail. neil: a step in the right direction. a reminder i am no longer tweeting out. i want to keep you guessing. thank you, neil.

>> i think what is significant here is the president has decided to take the taxes working in feeding isis in syria, put them to work in afghanistan and give the freedom and resources we know our soldiers will be able to win just as much in afghanistan as they've been winning in iraq. neil: the vice president the vice president outlined in this morning about some friends. secretary of state rex tillerson to hold a briefing on the afghan strategy shortly, where tonight he will address a campaign rally. you know how those events can go. after the presidents widely

create speech come even avoided a lot of specifics, which is how the president and his advisers wanted it. those wonder whether he can follow up tonight and not lose the momentum of the gravitas of that speech. whatever that means he has never been attached to me. it has been attached to ambassador james woolsey, our next guest. >> great to be with you. neil: if you had to advise the president after this widely regarded speech and i think you were among those, how would you advise? >> es at this point i think working with good speechwriters, and puts her in his excellent military officers that have positioned themselves for it in carefully crafted speech. he will do that once and in the middle of the night he will wake up i guess and say hey, wouldn't it be fun to tweet and then

something will wander off. neil: what he think his chief of staff john kelly, decorated veteran, four-star general. what do you think he tells them? he must tell the president, you see the good press you are getting. you see the global market reaction. they like what they see. they like what they hear. when that be enough? >> yeah, it should be. he needs to listen to people. >> he has by reversing views in afghanistan. >> is a good indicator. i don't think he can cut and lead the way some people have urged. >> after 16 years. >> i know. if we leave that part of the world completely chaotic, it will in fact a lot of the rest of the world. neil: what would a few thousand more troops do? >> it's not so much the troop numbers but what they will do.

if they use a lot more to be able to carry out orders based on battlefield orders rather than having to go back via internet, to corporate headquarters and listen until things get changed hourly. the people who are running things now really know how to run a military campaign. he needs to stick with that. neil: he's doing all the right things. or reversing his own good view on afghanistan coming years long, listening to his generals, shaking up and getting rid of a lot of people he deeply likes and considered close friends in his own administration in a very moderate, reasonable individual. he's trying to do all the right things. >> i think he is.

so far so good on this new installment. in this new approach. but i think he does have a definite chance of shifting things here. people want him to succeed. a lot of people want him to succeed. this habit of getting darted on something endearing off to talking about it. neil: i understand when it comes from the staff. he is the president as he often reminds people. the markets were running up like crazy, solar, ambassador. i always wonder when i see that reaction, whether that is justified. >> probably not. the market does all sorts of crazy things. you are right. >> they seem to be thinking there's a lot more military spending as a result.

>> well, there may be. i hope not because the country can't really afford respect to financing anything right now in the trillion dollars debt and so forth. but we also can't leave this major part of the world in absolute chaos. it has got to get patted on the right track. i think we are starting there now and we need to do something like what we did in andy barr -- and our province. we need to bring some of the people. neil: ambassador, very good having you here. i'd love to talk to the ambassador even more, but it's got to tweet. a little more after this. non-drowsy allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing

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trained to look at this rally continues after the president addresses many interpreting not just as a statement getting serious about afghanistan but the world breathing a sigh of relief that they would be very serious about correcting whatever problems against the way the agenda that books are missing and they are up. greg rayburn on whether the

president can keep this up. what do you think? >> we will see. i think on the one hand the patent rally like he is doing tonight is the form for him to potential it go off track. however, having said that, i think it's good he's doing now. frankly is not getting much help from republicans in the senate or the house that has been to me more dismayed than any other reissues flying around the white house. with republicans in control. neil: i think you're exactly right. i do think there is bad blood there. i don't know where they started blaming one over the other. mitch mcconnell, you know, should've been able to close a deal on health care after republicans are whining about it for seven years. mitch mcconnell saying those are the expectations.

those two have been going as much like paul ryan the system in a way to proceed in congress. i am wondering if that is coming to the surface more now. what do you make of that? >> well, it is easy for those people to pick at each other. there is blame on both sides. i don't see he's doing the group of leadership to get republicans coalesced around something meaningful in something they should be focused on which his tax reform. i think you are seeing those differences bottle up and of course the politicians without any kind of term limits are always looking in the next election. i think they've been in a constant state, republican senators and representatives at least in leadership center her

finger and holding up in the air every day to see if the wind is blowing relative to president trump. >> they must think if they don't get some taxes and a minimum given all the other problems that they will be in the majority after next year's midterm election. they must sense the urgency of this. or do they? >> i would hope that they would. i think trump is going to have to utilize his bully pulpit a little bit better and have to go and get his base to start getting into and onto their republican leadership in the house and senate. they are not getting the job done frankly and there's really no excuse. as you said, seven years to come up with some alternative to obamacare and they just fell on their face. they should have let the tax reform because -- neil: i agree. that was the lower hanging fruit.

if they don't get it done this year and the talk about revisiting and trying that, if it doesn't happen, then what? >> well, i don't think that they've actually come close to passing any sort of realistic meaningful legislation outside of a think important steps they took with the va to get the va structure changed so that could be approved for veterans. that was a very important step in people have sort of brushed over it like it was nothing and frankly that was a big deal. my advice for trump right now is take tax reform on and stay on message with that. that and pressure on republican in the house and senate is and senate as the desperate and make it happen. if they don't get legislation done while they have control, what did we send them there for? neil: greg rayburn, thank you very much. 161 points.

we've got a lot of issues running back with financial stocks and optimism that maybe this rally still has a lot more steam and it. after this. . . . .

neil: all right. seconds away right now from hearing from the secretary of state rex tillerson who is going to have a state department briefing maybe providing a bit more details on the afghan

strategy the president outlined in broader terms, commitment of thousands of more troops there. nothing approaching 100,000 plus we had at our height. more than 8400 there. trish regan will take you through that and so much more. trish: sure will, neil. we'll mare from secretary of state rex tillerson any minute from now. this is coming of course on the heels of the speech the president gave last night. we could expect he will be asked about afghanistan, our path forward there. maybe asked about potentially number of troops. the briefing comes as i said as the president makes his way to arizona for a big make america great rally. that rally definitely being focused on tonight there in arizona. there has been a lot of backlash. we'll talk about it but here's some good news for you, you have got stocks soaring today after the president laid out his afghanistan strategy and news that white house and gop la