please. we'd like to sigh more often. that's it for us tonight. thanks for being with us, tony sayegh, tammy bruce and historian doug wead amomomomomo the lauren: breaking news this morning. the white house firing back hours after president trump reached a daca deal. the issue whether excluded key campaign promise, which is the border wall. train to the president saying the tax reform bill will not cut taxes for the wealthy. in fact, they may pay more. lauren: another day of new records on wall street. all three major averages closing with all-time highs given a little bit back this morning. dow futures down three points. cheryl: europe opening stocks lower. lauren: let's check out how asian stocks ended the day tension down from 10 year high.

the nikkei down a quarter of 1% pay the kospi and south korea up three quarters of 1%. cheryl: marcus crowley is headed to the slammer. headed early. "fbn:am" starts right now. lauren: 5:01 a.m. in new york. good morning, everybody. thank you for joining us lauren simonetti. cheryl: good morning. i'm cheryl casone. martin shkreli just lost three months of freedom. cheryl: centered on social media. cheryl: a lot of breaking news this morning to start with top democrat leaders announcing they made a deal with president trump to protect so-called dreamers after last nights dinner at the white house. chuck schumer and house minority leader chuck nancy pelosi.

we've been trying to get daca quickly and work up border security excluding the wall acceptable to both sides. lauren: file in the statement, this is a fair huckabee sanders tweeted. while dr. and border security were discussed from excluding the wall was certainly not agreed to. senator schumer spokesperson traded this pick the president made clear he would continue pushing their wall just not with this agreement. what exactly is going on? oracle consultant harlan helen democrat strategists parlin heldman. cheryl: now we move onto the latest of tax reform. the gop tax plan will not in the scope of the americans. blake burman at the white house with the details. >> wealthiest of americans may not be getting a tax break and might even pay a little more. that was the message from

president trump wednesday as he met with the parade of democrats at the white house. >> the rich will not be gaining it all with this plan. the wealthy will be pretty much where they are. pretty much where they are. if they have to go higher, they will go higher. reporter: the president hosted a dozen house members. democrats in the afternoon. the main course was later in the evening as chuck schumer and nancy pelosi joined the president for a white house dinner to talk taxes. they have been demanding no tax relief for the wealthiest of americans. the white house press secretary swatted away in the idea president trump is leaving by the wayside for a meeting with the top two democrats on the hill. >> the idea you try to distort this into a bad thing is exactly what the president was elected. they wanted somebody who would break up the status quo that would bring people from both sides of the table together to

have conversations. the president's done for bipartisanship in the last eight case in the last eight years. he meant they were told to expect further details on what a package might look like at some point starting the week of september 25th. back to you in new york. cheryl: in an issue here with, the tax code in a fit the rich. >> the idea that the system already is more generous to the very wealthy then it is to this is something that is very real. i hope he means what he said about taxes for the rich not going down. >> treasury secretary on fox news special report saying the tax plan would not add to the deficit under the administration's growth assumption. >> when people talk about revenue neutral, whether you looking to. the answer is we're not going to score through 2% growth and

assume there's no economic changes. we are concerned it's gone from 10 trillion to 20 trillion under the last eight years a just cause 20 trillion. we want and make sure we are careful. cheryl: this is that the president treated, reaffirming his goal of lowering the corporate tax rate. china has a business tax rate of 15%. to learn with our economy, jobs and wages. 15 is low, but maybe there's a compromise. cheryl: but i daca, tax reform. now we will talk about health reform. senator bernie sanders on build his health care plan. details from adam shapiro. >> tax reform is center stage, but so is health care. senator bernie sanders introduced legislation which is gaining support from some

democrats. this legislation, essentially medicare for all this for a single-payer health care system. >> when we all stand together, we will take on the insurance companies and the drug companies and wall street and everybody else. to do what we should have done. and finally guarantee health care for all americans of the right. >> democrats joining forces that includes corey booker from new jersey as well as kirsten gillibrand from new york and a few others. but then there's the republicans. lindsey graham who introduced legislation along with republican senators to fix the affordable care act. you might say this is a return to repeal and replace. >> are in a come of this venture dream of a single-payer health care. so we need people on board now to stop but i think it's

inevitable if we fail, which is single-payer health care for all. >> while there's a big push on tax reform, health care is right behind it. back to you. >> also continuing to follow the damage of hurricane irma. a criminal investigation is underway after this horrific story. eight nursing home residents died in sweltering heat after the hurricane knocked out the air conditioning. the victims were as old as 99 years old as did officials at holly hollywood hills closed. some of them in critical condition. florida senator bill nelson says these deaths are inexcusable. >> let's don't let this happen again another nursing homes because they are out of power and not going to have power for another week or two. let's get those elderly frail out of fair and into a care

where they have some comfort. lauren: there is a hospital a few yards away. president trump is scheduled to visit naples as part of the damage from hurricane irma. he will be joined by first lady melania trump and mike pence. cheryl: to your point to how horrific that story is, there's actually a violation. >> they were on the radar and the radar and then this happened. some of those residents in the nursing homes could rise even more. for army deaths, it's at least 30 at this point. cheryl: we continue what is happening in florida. another story happening in new york that we've been following for you. martin shkreli is back in jail. a federal judge revoked his bail after shkreli offered a $5000 for on facebook for a strand of

hillary clinton's hair. the author was political satire or strange humor and shkreli apologize to the court that claimed the former drug company ceo was a danger to the public. >> we are obviously disappointed, but we believe the court arrived at the wrong decision. but she's the judge and right now we will have to live with this decision. cheryl: shkreli is due back in court january 16th 2018. so he just lost three months. lauren: coming up, we would tell you i wanted the biggest for-profit companies in the u.s. may be putting itself up for sale. a new survey shows half of millennial would give up their right to vote if they could wipe out their student loan debt. we will have the results of this surprising survey coming up. you are watching transcendent.

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armored vehicle caught fire. officials say three are listed in critical condition. five in serious conditions. shares of health care rose almost 12% in after-hours trading. much higher in the premarket as you can see in your screen there are reports they are exploring options including putting themselves up for sale. pink advisers are facing pressure from their largest institutional shareholder for at least the sailor may be new leadership. finally, the national student loan debt sitting at $1.3 trillion in millennial say they would go to extreme lengths to get rid of it. new surveys from a website called credible says 50% of millennial say they would give up their right to vote during the next two presidential elections if they could just wipe out their debts. of course they would. that is what is happening. lauren: i get it. it is paid off for years and look for a high-paying job to be paid off.

president trump strikes a border security plan at the top democrats last night. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. there's a lot of questions about the deal. let's bring in michael tobin and political consultant harlan hale also a member that donald trump for president advisory board. good to see you, gentlemen. if you could just explain what happened last night with trump, pelosi and schumer. what is the deal they have to protect dreamers look like and is the low part of the deal? >> well, i believe that a prerequisite for a deal to provide any amnesty or relief to a daca recipient on a permanent basis would -- a requisite would be something with a border wall and i would be unfortunate if the president's campaign that he could provide to his base as justification for sending on the deal. i know the president wants to

make a deal because to his court is a good man and he wants to show compassion for the million or so daca recipients who through no fault of their own are basically americans that don't have the rights you'd expect. so he's trying to do the right thing. he wants to balance that responsibility as president of the united states with his base. it is a tall order. lauren: do you think the president is placing his priority on the agenda and maybe protecting dreamers in this case over party alliances? >> no, i don't think it is either or. i agree with the harlan hill in so much there's a deal and that everyone compromises and compromising of in policymaking and governing is strength, not a weakness. i don't see this as capitulating, turning the president's back on his base. everybody gets something in border security is important,

but so were protections and civil rights and freedoms and protecting daca students. >> what you think republicans can get if they don't get the wall in terms of border security? do you think we can see extra surveillance of our targeting of the growth country? >> i think this will be something colorful and will be able to be referenced as a success. ultimately, what speaks to voters and people that put their trust in the president and those that selected senator schumer, my former boss is the senate democratic leader is the ability to get things done. everybody came to the table with the best of intentions. cheryl: we are so ahead of the deadline here. congress had six months to do this. they had until march. >> that is because the president has put this process into

receivership. they have proven they are totally incapable are willing to govern. if mitch mcconnell and paul ryan can do the job, then i'll step up to the plate and do their jobs for them. that's what he's done. that's how you invited nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to the white house to have dinner and work through this issue. i will push back on something that was just said. it is important that the president is giving a really big item to democrats here. it is important that whatever they come to the table an offer had, whether it's the wall or something else matches back. this is a big political win for democrats. they need to give him something of at least as much value to his base. true into speaking of democrats here, i want to move onto what's going on with health care. bernie sanders had a plan of becoming reality, but basically a single-payer health care system he's proposing. a quinnipiac poll says 51% of

people that they ask that they ask of the respondents it's a good idea to replace the current health care system with single-payer. is this the way the democrats are trying to position themselves for the midterms? can you really see this going through? some even distant themselves. >> i'm sure i'll get a lot of angry tweets from my colleagues. i don't see this as practical. this is about jockeying for the democratic presidential primaries in 2020. i think this is the activist tailwagging a larger democratic dog. last time i checked, we still live in a market economy and i believe they're preparing a keeping the aca obama cared is more important than pursuing something that is i think not tenable and doesn't speak to the totality of the democratic party and swing voters.

>> you are absolutely wrong. the democrats are going to win on this issue in the long term looking 10 to 15 years out. we are in a collision course for socialism because both parties have proven they are unable or unwilling to come up with health care reform. lauren: i wish we had more time. thank you so much for debate this morning. >> coming up, a wants small-business happening in silicon valley. to ask google employees monica to put it out of business. the plainest rainout rage on the internet. meteorologists reportedly baffled by the losing pattern of hurricane josé. janice dean is not confused. she is next. you are watching "fbn:am." ♪

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road to a calendar and i'm pretty sure we can rebuild texas and florida. lauren: that's a good point. all the money goes to victims. speaking of the hurricane. the strange looping patter of josé is pummeling some meteorologists, but not janice dean. she's been tracking the story with the latest. >> it's in between two areas of high pressure. weak steering patterns really doing these kind of meandering loops. we've seen it before, but it is a little bit weird on the satellite imagery. there is the track of where joée came from and a little loopy loo that it made an error cone of uncertainty has a pretty uncertain over the next five days. one thing i can tell you is the northeast needs to watchers say. here's our latest computer models that is made a loop to

loop caught between these two areas of high pressure. one across the east coast coming together across the atlantic league said in depending on high pressures, cool wins is going to need when they can turn on the potential for this high-pressure to get stronger in the atlantic and back into the northeast. that is my best description. i will tell you the computer models are coming too close for comfort in the northeast and new england. this is wednesday right here and obviously folks across the northeast and mid-atlantic need to pay close attention to the storm system, make your preparations. someone says it's not a big deal, right? but we remember sandy and andy was one. tremendous impact across. we need to be prepared and we've got some time. lauren: we were warned. janet, thank you. cheryl: the start of bodega

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the point in the dax and germany down 37. cheryl: take a look at asia as you can see down from 10 year highs. in china, stocks .3%. lauren: will the new iphone can turn it into the first trillion dollars company? we will ask that to adam johnson coming out. "fbn:am" starts right now. cheryl: 5:31 a.m. your new york. her stake in the september 14th morning i'm cheryl casone. lauren: hi, everybody. i'm lauren simonetti. i think they will be a trillion dollars company. cheryl: looks like an excrement say it like attend. top democratic leaders announcing they made a deal with the president to protect so-called dreamers during a dinner at the white house last night, senate minority leader

chuck schumer and house minority leader nancy pelosi issued a statement. we agree to an trend of protections to daca quickly and work out border security excluding the wall that's acceptable to both sides. >> file in a statement, white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders quoted this. while daca was discussed, excluding the wall is certainly not agreed to. senator schumer spokesperson also treated the president made clear he would continue pushing the wall, just not part of this agreement. cheryl: also a lot of confusion about the tax plan. a republican tax plan will not benefit wealthy americans. blake irvin at the white house with details on that. >> wealthiest of americans may not be getting a tax break and might even pay a little more. that was the message from president trump from president trump as they met with a parade of democrats at the white house.

>> the rich will not be gaining it all with this plan. the wealthy will be pretty much where they are. we can do that, we'd like to. they have to go higher, they will go higher. >> the president hosted a dozen house members. democrats in the afternoon. the main course was later in the evening as chuck schumer and nancy pelosi joined the president for a white house dinner to talk taxes. democrats demanding no tax relief for the wealthiest of americans. however, white house press secretary sarah sander swatted away any idea president trump is leaving americans by the wayside by meeting with the top two democrats on the hill. >> the idea you distort this into a bad thing is exactly what the president was elected. they were sick and tired of business as usual. they wanted somebody would break up the status quo, bring people from both sides of the table together to have conversations. this president has done more for bipartisan in the last few days

than the last eight years. >> they were told to expect further details on a tax reform package might look like at some point starting the week of september 25th. lauren: so pretty soon. former treasury secretary jack lowe agreed the current tax code >> the idea that the system already is more generous to the very wealthy is something that is very real and i hope he means what he says about taxes for the rich not going down. cheryl: meanwhile, treasury secretary stephen minich said it would not grow under growth assumptions. >> when people talk about revenue neutral, where he's going to? the answer is we're not going to score 22% growth and assume there's no economic changes. we will explain to the american

public how this is safer because we are explained his gun from 10 trillion to 20 trillion under the last eight years and we want to make sure we are careful. >> this is where the debt ceiling has become such a hot button issue. president trump reformed its goal of lowering the corporate tax rate. china has the business tax rate of 15%. we should do everything possible to match them to win with our economy, jobs and wages. lauren: senator bernie sanders has unveiled its new and controversial single-payer health care plan. details from adam shapiro. >> tax reform is center stage on capitol hill, but so is health care. senator bernie sanders introduced legislation, which this morning is gaining poured from some democrats. his legislation, essentially medicare for all his proposal for a single-payer health care system. >> when we all stand together, we are going to be able to take

on the insurance companies and drug companies and wall street and everybody else. and to do what we should have done decades ago and finally guarantee health care to all americans as a right. >> democrats joining forces with sanders. that includes corey booker from new jersey, the senator there, as willis kirsten gillibrand from new york and a few others. then there's republicans. lindsey graham who introduced legislation along with republican senators to fix the affordable care act. you might say this is a return to repeal and replace. >> this ends your dream of a single-payer health care system for america. so we need people on board now to stop what i think is inevitable if we fail, which is single-payer health care for all. >> while there is a big push on tax reform, health care is right behind it. back to you.

cheryl: it continues to be. thank you. now to south florida were criminal investigation is under way after eight nursing home residents died in sweltering heat after hurricane ermine not that the air conditioning. the big guns as young as 71. state officials ordered it closed. police say 150 people were evacuated, some in critical condition. florida senator bill nelson said these deaths are inexcusable. >> let's don't let this happen again another nursing homes because they are out of power and not going to have power for another week or two. let's get those elderly frail out of fair and into a care where they have some comfort. cheryl: we should have the facility was by state regulators. president trump will be visiting

naples as part of the tour damage from hurricane irma joined by first lady melania trumpet vice president mike pence. lauren: martin shkreli in jail. provoking the bail after shkreli offered a reward for hillary clinton's hair. i guarantee it was political satire and did apologize in a letter to the court. in a matter, the government claims that ceo at the danger to the public. >> we are obviously disappointed and we believe the court arrived at the wrong decision. but she's the judge in right now we will have to live with this decision. lauren: shkreli is due back in court january 16th, 2018.

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american chipmaker lattice semiconductor. the $133 billion is one of their largest takeover attempts in the u.s. connector sector. last month an 11-year-old boy wrote a letter to president trump saying he was -- he had to go in a neighborhood lawn care business and they wanted to know the white house lawn. white house press secretary sarah huckabee sandor said frank from virginia is now getting his wish. >> i would like to announce that frank from virginia whose letter i read last month offering his services to mow the white house lawn will be here on friday. he will work with the groundskeeping crew here at the white house in the hope that the grass in the rose garden. lauren: in that letter, frank said it would be his honor to mow the white house lawn in is which just came true. train to get the tv cameras ready for that one. lauren: i can't believe he has his own business basically at

11. cheryl: love it. apple in the spotlight with the long-awaited iphone 10 will be $1000 for the company into the first trillion dollars. adam johnson, founder and author, good morning. >> good morning, sheryl. the answer is yes, i love this story. it is cheap and we should all be buying it. cheryl: there's your answer on that. samsung has this new eight coming up. the american consumer loves the iphone, but the global consumer is starting to take sam's son over apple. does that worry you at all? >> it's a fair point in the new product in the first five days is on sale outsold to something like 2.5 times. demand is hot for this thing. remember the case of samsung they have the whole problem with the exploding phone so you could argue there was some kind of

demand. focusing on apple, some of the technology, yes. it's the same you had on sam's son. the facial recognition thing is a really big deal. i'll tell you why. it's not just a neat thing to do. it is about pixelated images where you actually take an image, chop it up into a bunch of little boxes and send it digitally. why this excites me, sheryl, that's how you start to make images possible for people who are blind. i'm not saying the iphone will help the blind see, but the technology and that it is incredibly exciting and we are tipping the iceberg with this thing. train to look at small children using ipads and some say it's a learning tool. let me ask you about the device itself. the device itself at the iphone, the components of this found is almost becoming a super computer in your hand.

that's how they can justify the thousand dollars price tag. >> think about it this way. the iphone, not the new one coming out, the one a generation ago had 5000 times the computing power of the apollo 11 spaceship. so yes, you are right to call this thing is super computer. it's a super computer in your hand. if you're worried about the price, this is the cheapest thousand dollars supercomputer you are ever able to buy. >> is there ever a point where you can wait and let it pull back a bit. but there is also concern is overvalued. >> it trades at about 18 times earning right now. you say that is the same price as the s&p 500. it's not cheap, yes. remember they've got 300 billion in cash. this thing is actually trading at 11 or 12 times earnings. i'm sorry, but it's cheap but the growth we see out of apple. i get guys in the stock a year

ago at 95 bucks. any dixie five. cheryl: adam, thank you very much. good to have you on the show. >> thank you, sheryl. cleveland indians make it one for the history books. we'll also tell you about a 7-year-old girl who has an artificial hand and she will throw the first pitch in the world series. unbelievable. garrett max coming up with sports for you. a new hybrid supercar, top speed over 200 miles an hour. can you afford it? maybe with the gains have been seen on wall street on wall street coming today to record highs for all major averages given a little back this morning. the market down one point right now. you are watching "fbn:am." ♪

lauren: check this out. unveiling a mercedes supercar. like a formula one race car that puts out more than 1000-horsepower and can raise about 120 miles per hour in less than six seconds. the concept first introduced at the international motor show in frankfurt. here's the problem for some people. you need at least $2.7 million to buy their supercar. cheryl: i always wondered what the concept cars. can i drive back? >> may be an especial racetrack. were you going to park it is the question. cheryl: from cars to baseball, history was made in cleveland.

lauren: garrett max was here with those highlights. >> the american-made joint baseball 116 years ago, in 1801. in this time never before had a t. 121 games in a row until now. the first inning against the tigers yesterday. a three-run home run for the indians. cleveland does have three to one. in the fifth inning, is five to one indians in the malfunction. cooling down. nothing can stop the indians, though as they would go on to do this. >> it's over. 21 and zero. they set a new record in american league history. >> the indians haven't lost since august 23rd. one says that the good times roll. >> keep it going.

cleveland pride, man. cleveland indians -- i might want a trademark bad. >> lebron james closing in on the night team who won 26 straight. within that street was a tie score to the street has an asterisk. i like that. they lost 11 straight and now the los angeles dodgers have won two games in a row. cody belanger's 37th home run helped clinch the nfl west. botch what happened at fenway park at a loss to oakland, but the story everyone is talking about unfurled over the green monster. racism is as american as baseball. and then it was removed from the stadium.

the martin's amber is scheduled to begin instead is going to be in miller park in milwaukee. houston texans kick off the season tonight against the cincinnati bengals in addition to five players in the protocol. texas will be without brian cushing. next indians suspended. performance-enhancing drugs, second time in his career. thursday night football means we get these uniforms as texans will be wearing tonight the cincinnati bengals at bright colors. hailey dawson. i don't know if you've gotten to see her story. she was born with only two fingers on her right hand. thanks to engineers at unlv who created a hint for haley, she's able to throw a baseball, which he has done. she throws first pitch for the nationals and orioles, wants to do every major league park. they are going to make it

happen, but for now hayley dawson is focused on game four of the world series. she stared at the first pitch a game four of the world series. what a great story. she's going to do hopefully all 30 major league baseball teams get to do it. cheryl: it's amazing what's happened with technology. let's just go back to that for a moment. that's incredible and she's out there throwing pitches. >> i still don't understand the concept of 3-d printing. >> the medical world it's really life changing. lauren: of course you can catch jerry that fox news headline on channel 115. cheryl: with got a lot more coming up. there's the numbers out this morning that might determine whether wall street as well. we are going to go to london for more. when you have something you love,

you want to protect it. at legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way. with an estate plan including wills or a living trust that grows along with you and your family. legalzoom. legal help is here. lauren: to record closes in a row on wall street. again in energy prices. the big reason why investors are waiting for inflation numbers that could show the gas price increase from hurricane herby creep into the economic data. good morning to georgie from "the wall street journal." good to see you. what is the significance of today's cpi numbers?

>> is key because they will give us clues about what the federal reserve might do next. they have been running pretty soft this year and has the 2% target. the numbers are high, that raises the chances for the fed hiking interest rates in december or vice versa. this coming this morning is key for the market giving the markets flat right now, but they will take a cue from those data points. transfer georgi, there is to 11 month high, but what does that mean for gasoline prices here in the united states? >> well, oil is rising because of strong demand, especially in china. you know, some are speculating they have been keeping prices low for the past three years and is finally coming to an end, which will raise gas prices. higher oil prices incentivizing

shale with more and keep prices low. lauren: supply certainly not at issue in the u.s. cheryl: that does it for us here at "fbn:am." now we turn to maria bartiromo. maria: hey there, girls. thank you very much. happy thursday. i maria bartiromo. thursday, september 14. 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. president trump strikes another deal on border security. senate minority leader chuck schumer and house minority leader nancy pelosi says the deal excludes the wall, but the white house says that was certainly not agreed to appear for public and curing up for tax reform and the new rollout, reiterating his call for 15% corporate tax rate to warning the wealthiest americans might pay more. >> we won't be able to compete with anybody. nobody will be able to touch us. we would like to see 15%. the rich will not