i take my hat off to him, a live action show, all morning long, great news. thank you everyone for being with us. we really appreciate it. neil cavuto, it is yours now. >> i have seen you sprint around you are fast. stuart: not for a while. >> for an older guy. all right. very busy day, we'll monitor the president, he is in naples. this is a visit that is something we look at our commander in chief to do, and to show empathy, sympathy and support, president getting high marks from democrats and republicans on this push to rally help around a state, they are crunching numbers on relief, and how much it will cost for irma and will be residual cost of harvey, both of those storms could eclipse $250 billion, say some saying 300 billion.

president trying to state whatever either state or governor needs, i am here. i'll get them whatever they are to have. but this happens at a time when president used a earlier appearance at fort myers to say, he is moving on other fronts as well, least of which is the talks against with prominent democrats this for example on daca. >> we're working with everyone, republicans, we working with democrat, i spoke with paul ryan, he is onboard. they want to do something, we're not talking amnesty, we're talking about taking cake of caf people, who were brought here. very personally we want we have to have a wall, if the wall is going to be obstructed. we'll be determine how much we need, then. >> all right makings of deal

there, also some flexibility on daca. on the same day that president was you know explaining again, his position on tax cuts for upper income. they might not materialize, some like charlie gasparino could may more. and if you think that does not have charlie upset, you don't know charlie. he is paving the way for a lot of these agreements could he thinks he can get in a bipartisan fashion. we'll get into later on the show. how it ticking off some republicans. some of the traditional base. >> well, you know i agree with what he is doing on daca, personally. it is kind of senseless and heartless to send kids back. some of these kids i believe serve in the military. military. >> in the military. >> that is absurd. you know one thing to end the program, another thing to end it and you know maybe with a clean slit. >> i believel leahy has -- he hs

always been there, questioning the way that president obama did this in his last year in office. he has put onus on congress. >> this sensible way of doing it, i tell you his hard-line supporters don't. and i think if he is willing to go back to something that was very integral to his campaign. >> the wall or daca thing. >> daca and the wall. he says he is still building the wall, we'll see where he gets money for that. >> did he ever say he would kick children out. >> he was in favor of getting rid of daca, he would say it hurts me, a hard thing to do, he never told his hard-core supporters he would keep them in, he never ran on, they can stay, that is how i would have done it. he never said that.

>> you could argue he is risking his base a little bit. not entire base. >> just look at breitbart, and you know, i think that problem he has, if he loses his base, everyone is pretty much not in his onboard with trumpism with tweeting and firing of comey, you know people, republicans want tax cuts, democrats don't. but if he annoys his base, this where he it can be problematic for him in future, people that stick with him, everyone else like most mainstream republicans won't. they don't like a lot of stuff he does, they hold their nose they voted for them. >> and outside, whatever he comes with will be better than anything hillary clinton would have come up with. >> right, i will say, neil, if you deal with chec chuck and nan tax cuts, you are not getting

much of a tax cut, if that is your margin of victory, dealing with chuck and nancy. >> but attack cut for reach -- >> it depends he already is giving a tax cut to rich, allowing private equity investors, rich private equity byes to keep the tax loophole, that allows them to make gazillions a year, he is caving to to steve at plaque stone, if you don't get rid of that loophole who others do you get rid of. >> that it too in the weeds for many on the left, do you think if he getting their support. mix the tax cut for -- get rid of the tax cut for wealthy, is there much skin he risks. >> hyp hypothetically, if he los

tax for middle class and keeps taxes for wealthy and a 15% corporate tax rate, and maybe capital gains tax. guess what most republicans will say great. >> you saw "wall street journal" today that we might get ahead of ourselves, even president might be over stating the case. that top rates will come down, i don't know who to believe here. >> journal said that it won't come down? >> it will, all rating will come down. i am wondering is this just or what? >> if you think healthcare was crazy, which it was. there is a lot of lobby groups on tax deducts ask loopholes, it is hard to game plan this, most republicans would agree keeping upper rates where they are, getting middle class tax cut, they would say you have to cut corporate tax rate. if you don't cut rich people's taxes, people pay 50% of taxes.

>> a lot of small business guys. >> 50% of all tax paid by top 10%, what type of stimulus to you get. >> fair enough. >> thank you, charlie gasparino. we're waiting for paul ryan, news conference. here is where charlie is dead on, not unified agreement among republicans never been the case here. a lot of these developments of late, including president's strong stance of up are rate not being cut that was news to a lot of powers that be on capitol hill. we're told, we'll get a sense of that in a few minutes. to arizona congress madge congrg with president trump yesterday, thank you. can you accept that unequivocal view that rich are not getting a tax cut, some may pay more.

>> first, i was glad to be invited, it was a good group, bipartisan, an eclective group we had a discussion on a variety of different issues not just tax reform. and in our discussion on tax reform it was not to me unequivocal it was more of setting out principles. >> it sounded like spiking after. what was that about. because, that was as clear as i heard him, charlie and i mentioned this, nixing any tax benefit for wealthy. >> well -- >> if that were the case. would you be okay with that. >> reflecting our conversation in the room, i am part of problem solver caucus could a bipartisan group, we're trying to provide is bottom up solutions from center right out. that are common sense. in the discussions we had with

him yesterday he questiony. we talked about job growth and a cut for middle class. >> that was your priority, not necessarily for wealthy, reason why we go through hoops is there a choir group, counter parts in freedom caucus. largely conservative republican strong, big on a big tax cut, with goal revenue neutrality, they can't be big, right? >> if you look at -- if we can create the jobs and have economic growth come from this major tax reform that has not happened since mid 80s that can make up for additional refugee. depending on how we look at it, if you can go from 3% to 4% growth, that sounds absurd to some people, that can give us a couple trillion dollars extra

revenue. i think there is a way to do this. the focus, i am not on the committees, but focus of meeting with problem solver caucus and white house was middle class focus. job focus. that is what we're really trying to drill down on. i think there was a bipartisan solution there. >> was your sense, democrats who were there, 8 others, democrats who were invited for some reason. i don't know. but they were. and any of them inclined or share with you, i would support an effort like this? >> well, in problem solver caucus we have been talking about tax reform for a while, there is strong support from democrats, these are fiscally conservative democrats, some are new, some of millennials, some are veterans, they really' to govern, they see tax reform as a path for job growth. and middle class support, there

is common ground there. we have been working on this for a while, i think from the bottom up we can provide bipartisan support for a solution that will be what we vote on. >> do you think he will have an agreement by the inof th end ofe year? >> that is our hope. >> would be that retro active to beginning of the year? >> that is my hope, we're working through the details. if you see people filing 2018 tax return, real change, money in pocket, we'll see game changing in q1-q2 if we can get it done. i know we're working through the budget reconciliation process to go that route, working with these democrats i lead effort on health care proposal. we caricaturize each other,

there is more common ground than you think. and i really think we can partner from the bottom up in a bipartisan way that focusing on the job growth and middle class tax break. >> thank you so much. >> absolutely. >> all right, updating you on president in fort myers, we'll visit naples, and just send a message that administration stands behind floridians hit hard by irma. as he told texans hit hard by harvey, that federal spigot, cash, money and support will not just be there now. but every single day they need it. we'll have more after this.

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neil: all right, so. as president arrives in florida, power is coming back to those in the sunshine state, florida power and light report that 70% of customers have seen power restored their their customers, might just be broward county area. 1.4 homes and businesses still without power. all hospitals in the area restored power.

service that appears now to be a thing of the past, things are back and reving up, keep in mind, it is a hot state, 90 degrees and 90 plus percent humidity. he just met in fort myers with republican mayor. he is joining us ons phone right now. president promises aid to anyone and everyone in florida who needs it, did he echo the same with you? >> thank you, neil. we have been concerned with preservation of life, now we met with success with that. we have to be certain that we get people restored to their homes, they are safe, they transition without risk. our hospitals are at capacity, you are right, power grid is back up for hospitals. we want to make sure people get food and water, they are, we

have multiple locations, that have been dispersed throughout fort myers they are feeding people, getting them aid. neil: what was the president's impression of what he saw. what did he say? >> well, opportunity to get out to the ground zero was certainly limited. a process we're trying to rent are aid. -- render aid, they respect, that the message is we got your back, we're here, fema was here yesterday, they met with them, they are staging and mobilizing and moving forward. neil: thank you, mayor. speaker paul ryan, is having a briefing with reporters right now. about relief effort and status of tax cuts, daca and the above. >> we had anmen amendment proces on the floor, we conceived

conservative. we raised pay for servicemen and women, strengthened our border protect, defunded planned parenthood and used our majority to get this done, we set out to see if we could get all 12 bills to the house, take a conservative approach, we succeeded. we have still a lot of work to do we need senate to work with us to get bills on president's desk. this is what people sent us here to do. i want to thank all of our subcommittee chairs, these men and women have done a tremendous job getting work done, of the people's, making the house work the way it was intended to work, get our bills done, on time, it has been a long time in coming, i am so proud of these men and women for their hard work and great vicotries this majority has been able to produce by passing all 12 bills ahead of schedule, with that, chairman.

>> thank you, mr. speaker for your leadership, you have empowered appropriations committee continue its historical work as regular order. i want to credit those who provided deliverables today, we did it in two parts. my committee chairs most of whom are behind me, did a incredible job, delivering on defense, homeland security making sure we have necessary means to do good things with the department of health and human services. nih, we have a incredible group of committed individuals, very proud to represent them, and speak highly of them. without your leadership and support thank you very much.

>> does anyone have any questions? neil: we're going to listen to this. president is visiting one of many homes hit by irma. he goes, if he says anything we'll take you there. we'll keep that there and speaker paul ryan, has talked up majority. >> it was a discussion, not an agreement or negotiation. let me say, i will say same thing i have said for weeks, president and i have been talking about this for weeks, you cannot fix daca without fixing the root cause of our problem. we do not have control of our borders. so we need border security and enforcement as part of any agreement. i think that is something that democrats are beginning to understand and agree with. i said as much to our democratic colleagues here in the house

just yesterday, we have not begun negotiations, we're talking with ourselves here and our majority to make sure we're on the same page before we precede in these. and it is right and proper this president talks with the other party, these were discussions not negotiations there isn't an agreement, it very clear, i want to make this clear, if we don't fix the problems we have with border security and enforcement, and we would only fix daca, we'll have another daca problem a decade from now, let's fix both. people are beginning to understand our position has not changed, it will stay the same, i think that people understand. it is common sense, it makes sense fix root cause of problem while addressing symptom of the problem. i believe that democrats are understanding that as well. >> for daca protection.

>> that is why this was not a negotiation, these are discussing understanding people's positions. >> did the president shed light on what his preferences would be. >> what i am going to do is negotiate with colleagues, get consensus with our members, i am not going to negotiate throughed media. we're going to do get our concensus, we're having conversation with members right now, while we negotiate a compromise, there will be a compromise. we believe this will occur. and this compromise will include border security and enforcement so that we don't. neil: back to florida, president meeting with victims of hurricane whose homes have been destroyed. i want to listen in president is beginning words of encouragement

to some of them. you never know. >> mr. president what is your message to people of florida. >> well we love the people of florida. they within through something the likes of which no one has seen before, they have never seen a category like this come in, it came in at a 5. just look the keys, woe love these people, we will be back and help, job that everyone has done in terms of first responders, and everyone, that been incredible. and by the way that is the people that live here, you see people immediately getting back to work to fix their homes like bobby, and some others. i want to tell you we're there for you 100%, i will be back numerous times, this is a state i know very well, as you understand, these are somewherel people, we love them, thank you. >> mr. president --

neil: president continuing hig tour of florida. a special state, we love them. this at same time paul ryan speaking in washington, interesting that on two occasions paul ryan talked up what party has done and delivered, used our majority to get things done, a proud day for our majority not making a slap of president's overture to democrats but making it clear not because house republicans are not getting things done back to paul ryan. >> it is clear to us, a bottom line issue, i think that democrats agree, they know that getting operational control of our bored ser essential. they know getting proper enforcement is essential, that is necessary for us to be able to find a compromise. does anyone have questions about appropriation process? do you?

go ahead. >> is this democrat -- >> told you that. >> are you prepared to put package this president negotiated with democrats on floor. >> the president of the not negotiating. >> if they do. >> the president understands he has to work with congress come majority. >> in th the back. >> i will say what i have been saying. we're not going to bring a solution to the floor that does not have support of president trump, if we have support of president trump on things that i said, getting security and enforcement along with the solution, that i believe will get a majority of our members,

our members support president trump, thank you very much, appreciate it. neil: we're -- all right that is speaker paul ryan, saying our members support president trump, and saying he sees nothing wrong with president reaching out to democrats. that steve king comments, that president's overtures with daca, risks president losing his base. president has said reaching across aifl wil aisle will get s done. this belief here maybe in trying to settle the daca situation, that he can get funding for that wall. that was the center piece of his presidential campaign. but he argues he is making progress on these developments as he tours florida. this same day we got word that damage. could eclipse those of harvey.

right now two storms together are going to likely carry a 300 billion dollar price tag. the president is speaking to some of the folks, listen in

in. >> this is president with vice president next to him. serving food to relieve workers and residents in naples, florida, most of the power is back on, but the damage is done to that community, and the president working a food service area, just to show his support, and how similar to what he did in texas over a week ago. but the president, is already indicated that whatever floridian need, he and federal government will deliver. and it will be pricey, we'll monitor this. with me right now former

american express chair and ceo, harvey, providing funds and empathy and sympathy, how is the president doing? >> i think he is doing very well. he is certainly has handled federal government activities during these two storms, one my name sake, well. neil: i didn't think of that. normally would not think harvey would b so devastating. relief including a little for irma victims, they will need more, president saying that money is there. they will need follow-up votes to get that funding, as we debate tax cuts and president surprising folks yesterday, but some hearing that wealthy will not be included so far.

>> well, what i make of it, president has said so far, is that we need to have a set of federal government policies, that encourage growth. and growth he dealt with two parts, one has to do with reducing regulations and other with revising tax code. he has done on a lot of regulation, now to tax code. and the issue the question that people ought to ask, is what we're going to do with the tax code, what congress decides to do with tax code, will that incur growth? growth is critical to dealing with your fiscal mess. we spend about 20% of gdp . and raising revenue at about 16% of gdp, over at past 30 years, that 16% or sometimes 15 or 17,

but it is static. and in 1% increase in growth rate, had we had a 1% increase, over the obama years, we would have increased federal revenues by 2.5 trillion dollars more or less, if we get 1% growth over next 10 years, and federal gets 2.5 trillion. neil: we had a congressman earlier. that is using dynamic accounting. but there is bickering as to whether democrats would accept that. do you think that this is going to be a nasty fight? even it lead -- if it leaves out wealth to get democratic votes. >> yes. neil: you do.

>> i do. i think that democratic point of view is we should be raising more revenue by tax rates, not necessarily growth. and they will argue that if we're going to reduce taxes for anybody, or anything, then we need to reduce it for middle class people and poor people. >> you crunch the numbers, argument is you get more bang for your buck cutting wealthy taxes, but i don't know what methodology history proves, just when we had bipartisan tax relief in past. that fact of matter is, it was across the bored for everyone. does that make a difference now, and in environment, only way you can get it through, in this very weird climate where you can't count on all republicans to do it this way, better something than nothing?

>> first, currently latest years, 2013, the top 20% of taxpayers paid 88% of federal income tax. lowest 20% actually got 4% back. it was a negative 4% contribution to taxes. if you are going to cut individual tax rates, at some point, you have to cut for those who pay the taxes that is the most wealthy. but the question policymakers ought to ask, which tax cuts will generate the most growth, and the tax cuts that will are in corporate tax. >> if they are not cut to 15%, they might start in 20 or 23%. that is lower than 35%. but will that move the needle much? >> it will move the needle but i

don't know if it will move it enough. corporate tax rates ought to be zero, the fact that corporations down pay taxes that a way of collecting money. the people who pay corporate taxes are the workers, are stock holders and customers. if corporate tax rates were zero we would have investments and united states and we would have growth. neil: but they could go still lower, maybe not to 15. to your point, and market up against in record territory, market filled with these top 1 percenters, they seem to be resigned to notion, the investment in corporate rates go down, they benefit because the economy booms. their investments soar. do you buy that? because something has to explain this market not giving up.

>> i am in 1%. and really, as you are and you most baseball players. and the fact of the matter is, we would be better off as a nation. that is what i care about, not whether i am affected, as a nation. neil: i would like to care a little bit. >> you will. if we have economic growth, instead of 1.9%, 2.9%. neil: that makes a heap of difference. >> people go back to work. our cost of living government goes down confidence levels are higher. neil: financial community has come to that. i think. soy. >> and every economist will argue we need to lower corporate tax rate. neil: do you think he will get it with overtures too democrats, he seems to have found his political sea legs here. maybe the handling of the storms or meeting with democracies and

surprising people. >> it depends on what he has to pay for it the way that congress does its scoring, the difference between 20% tax rate and 15% tax rate for corporation is like $80 billion a year. and if he has to spend that $80 billion, not really spending it, but, if he has to give up that in order to lower rates for somebody else, then that means we're not going to get a bang out of that $80 billion, if we cut tax rates for middle class, i think, should be down for everyone, but for middle class, that will not have significant economy growth implications. if we cut it for corporate -- >> if you make it retro active it might. >> no. we have all right spend the money, if you do it at corporate

tax level, you will get a full bang for the buck, i would argue that president and congress should stick to their guns, if they get nothing other than i lowering of corporate tax rate. that would be best number zero but any number below 20 is better than where we are now. not buy democrats off. neil: are you worried about that? i get an impression, twice speaker ryan kept speaking to republican majority to get it done. said, it is a proud day for our majority, after that saying, president has to work with the majority to get legislation done. i am paraphrasing there. but, enough to say, and remind president, these overtures to democrats are fine, but this is

the way legislation gets accomplished in a republican-dominated for the time, house and senate. is that planning the seeds for what could be unrest among his own troops? >> well, i think what he is doing is what potentially could be unrest. which would be the freedom caucus in the house, not -- >> conservative group not fans. >> and they are interested in lower tax rates for everyone. and they will not go along, i think, with a really mixed up corporate or tax restructuring that does not put the reductions in areas yield growth. neil: can i ask you, you are willing to stick around? >> yes. neil: i want to continue harvey on the theme and the fallout of to, and bills coming up.

really one of the finest minds in the financial community. and i want to update you on what president is doing in florida, then address bigger points at stake in battle over tax cuts, left or right, it is about a reissuinrealignment to a tax sin to spur growth. even for paying for relief, like we're getting in florida, after this horrific hurricane, real have more.

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over many years covered his career. he used to run american express, harvey, we're talking about need are ineedfor growth and presiden florida talking about hurricane relief, helping as he did last week in texas. a little bit of growth goes a long way, you mentioned 1% difference they could raise trillions over 10 years. that is why he is really pushing these tax cuts. but sitting where you are, last week, was the home depot found are said now is not time to talk tax cuts, we can't afford it. i would argue we can afford not to be talking about tax cuts now. what are your thoughts? >> i think we can't afford not to cut corporate taxes, right now, i would trade off doing nothing on individual taxes. and in order to deal with corporate taxes, not because i think that corporations deserve a break, but american people

deserve a break. what we need to do is make the investment necessary that will create economic growth, that will create jobs. neil: how do you know it will? a lot of people come on the show, assume that you know, corporations will get something back or hire -- they might just buy a lot of their own stock back, they are free to do what they want. but what if it doesn't work out? >> we'll know that quickly and take corrective act. but in the past it is always worked out that way. if corporations did not directly pay taxes, individuals would, they would get money and pay the taxes, it would not be a complete loss. and economic growth, neil, is created over the years by two factors population growth, that is about half, and investments. and investments are made by

corporations, small business, large business and rich people. we need to increase the rate of investment to get the economic growth. we would get half of th economic growth with zero population growth if we just made hire investments. corporation would invest if there were zero corporate taxes people would build plants here, and manufacture here. neil: like in ireland. and the locales that have that. >> right. it is a cost of running a business, if you reduce that cost you increase competitiveness of the companies they be can grow, and hire people. and that what happens. that is what happens that is how you get it. neil: we were talking about before markets anticipating this. there are a lot of other factors, but do they sell-off on reality then. saying they got it. >> i think it will happen.

but the question is how much of it are we going to have to give up? does congress have to give up to buy the votes. when i say give up, if you went to a 20% tax rate, instead of 15, that difference, you buying back. you take that difference, and spending it somewhere else in order to buy votes to get to 20. if you done have to buy it back, you could take it down to 15, we would be better off in growth perspective. neil: are you surprised people talk about rich. and we have to gotten to a point now, we're close to half, don't pay any income tax. they paya but that is a large swath of the american people not putting up money. >> they have no interest, no economic interest in controlling spending. that is true. >> i argue, does not mean they

pay top rate. but i think if you have skin in the game you are much more interested. >> if it was a restructuring of individual tax rate, i think that everyone should pay taxing at some level, some skin in the game. but in terms of economic growth, we would get biggest badg bang s corporate tax rate. as a person it will not benefit me individually, it will help average person in country by providing jobs and increase wages. neil: how is president trump doing right now? >> right now, i think he is doing fine, he is focusing on the right things. he put together i think a terrific cabinet. his regulation regime has been terrific. he it picking good judges, i think of -- you know people have problem with the president, is sometimes, why if we had hillary, what would the world be like?

i think we're much better off with president trump than we would have been with a president clinton. neil: all right, i will pet youu down as a maybe on hillary. harvey thank you. >> thank you. neil: we'll go back to florida, president is there right now, he will make more tours of the assessment of damage. he promise he would deliver the goods to floridians. he says he is making good on that promise. these people he is with today are happy to see him, more after this.

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>> it is important, i believe that congress pass a tax cut, not just tax reform. there are some congres congressl republicans who want this to be revenue neutral, that means if you cut taxes here you jack them up over here, so that net is zero. >> you get revenue. >> i think that is a mistake, we need to cut taxes on individuals, on family, small businesses that is how we create jobs, only way to do that say this a tax cut. neil: all right, that was

senator cruz with maria bartiromo, and that a theme we hear from largely conservative republicans, but they are not a small base in the party. 30 members in freedom caucus in the house, they are concerned the president they think may be dialing back his expecting on a tax cut, the wealthy for example may not see it. that has to be revenue neutral or paid for, and not factoring in longer term growth as a result of lower taxes, everyone or everyone company in the country, would be paying. but it has lead to frustration in other ways exhibited in strong, terse language. steve king of iowa, working on that deal with daca. the congressman arguing that base will leave him, referring

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neil: all right, the president wrapping up his tour to naples for hurricane irma appeared once arriving in florida come he doubled down on comments he made about the wealthy and whether they will get cuts are not in his latest tax generation. it appears they are not. adam shapiro on capitol hill with more on this cross currents. what are you hearing? reporter: you should remember, to come in focus on capitol hill and the administration is tax reform. kevin brady is the key person right now. the house at chairman ways and means in his promise we will get some of the details and that would presumably include the different rates that would be suggested and that would be not lowering the top rate for the wealthiest americans when they talk about not cutting are not helping the wealthy. i know what they are saying is they are going to change the field for them. here's what the president said when he got to florida about all of this.

>> wealthy americans are not my priority. my priority or people in the middle class and that's where we are getting the big tax reduction. it's about the middle class and jobs and about bringing jobs back in the country could right now they are leaving our country. as you know, you look at ohio, starting to come back. but to really bring them back, and we would have to reduce our tax rate. >> the president talking about the corporate tax rate right there. you heard him use the language around 15% the last week he said ideally 15%. members of the administration insist they want 15%. behind closed doors on the hill, what they are seen as 20% to 25%. they won't raise taxes, but when they removed all the deductions come especially for state and local taxes, that is where the wealthy who itemize their taxes, that is where they would take potentially ahead. back to you.

drink you add them come in thank you. a lot to sort out there. signaling a move on the border wall construction as well. listen to this. >> the wall will come later. right now renovating large sections of walls, making a brand-new, doing a lot of renovation. we are building for different samples of the wall to see which one we are going to do and the wall is going to be built and funded a little bit later. >> on them quit provo or salamon daca is time to this wall. it certainly sounds like that. what do you hearing? >> excerpt that the framework aware that may be headed to the white house says there's not a given place but you kind of see how this could potentially involve democrats gain protection for the dreamers which the president now says he is behind that policy as well. however, he also wants massive border security.

that has been the buzzword not just in the president that the administration to kind of pair with it so that's where it could be doing. the bottom line is the president wants the wall built. you heard in his comments and talking about the renovation and how some of it might come later. we reached out to the department of homeland security to figure out where the whole thing stands and this is the best we could decipher from the information numbers they gave us if there's been about 7.5 miles so far this year. another mile in new mexico. two miles of fencing in california and the waiver in that state as well for 15 more miles. all so gates along the strathern border. prototypes currently in the works right now before concrete walls. or more walls of other material and once they get into fiscal year 18 commanders and money for the potential of 74 more miles. he says he knows a campaign pledge for the president and had

been a top priority. >> they cannot obstruct the wall. the walton is vital. if i don't get the wall, we will become -- reporter: there's little bit of interesting gamesmanship for mitch mcconnell. him and paul ryan were not at the dinner last night at the white house with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and the first inkling that there could be some sort of consensus been reached on this. but, as office put out a statement in which they said we look forward to receiving the trump administration legislative proposal. they've been saying congress do this. no mcconnell saying trump administration, we want to hear from you. neil: at the same vibe even from paul ryan talking about what the republican majority is doing in the house and tanks to the majority in the house. there's a little subliminal thing going on there. >> it's like i love my brother

and sister, but also sometimes fight with them and i'm the older brother in that the younger brother. he kind of get that sort of feel here. neil: i do indeed. like berman at the white house. dealmaking to "the wall street journal"'s, american conservatives, democratic strategist andrew feldman. so mary, let me begin with you on the back and forth here come the subliminal or not. i do read republican establishment fires by that and including the speaker in the senate majority leader. i don't know if that is fair or right, but just to say they might be getting a little miffed by this, disproportionate attention of late are the democrats in the deal that may be going on or not. what do you think? >> the president is right to reach out to the democrats because the republicans have behaved pretty badly and they are kind of like herding cats

and is not making much progress with him. if you think about what he ran on, which was boosting jobs and middle-class opportunities, he's got to work with the republicans. they are the only ones that are going to give him the kind of things you need for growth in this country. their whole idea is an equality narrative. you know, they want to make the rich people pay more so that the middle-class people are somehow earning closer to what the wealthy are earning. 3% growth in this country, the only way you look at it is by cutting marginal tax rate. that is not going to come from the democrats. tree into if everyone has their margins cut, and the devils in the details. one of the things that come up is this frustration i heard them

talk to congress and others, part of the freedom caucus who feel they've been left out in there are concerns about the revenue neutral tax cuts, that by definition will not have much bang for their buck. steve king negotiating with democrats to say the president risks losing his base. there is ill will there come a frustration. is that palpable? what is your sense? >> yeah, on the taxi on the taxis first on the taxis on the taxi's first on the taxis first come the neocon republicans if if they don't get a deal done, certainly this year as critical or at least the first couple months of next year. they have very little to go back to the voters and say hey, there's a real region he gave us the majority because we've got nothing done. that will not work very well. that is going to cure some of these problems. i agree with the congressman completely. they should not worry about the tax cut. we'll have the biggest tax cut

possible dispersed the most economic growth. if the economy starts chugging along. they can feel like they have more economic prospects, better jobs, better take-home pay. that's better for everyone on the middle-class. as far as keith king is concerned, this is a tough and nasty topic. >> you're shaking your head dared with a fox alert. you don't share the view on these across-the-board tax cuts let me ask you what you think of democrats who might vote for this package as long as it doesn't include a tax cut for the wealthy. >> look, let's wait and see what the packages. neil: i'm just throwing out what is a very good likelihood. what do you think? >> i don't think -- if the middle-class, at the middle-class and the real working families can get relief, i absolutely think they should

take a strong look at appeared fine. i don't believe the millionaires and billionaires should be getting any sort of tax break. if you cut those for the millionaires and billionaires, how do you not increase the deficit? how do you not do two things republicans don't want to do. the math doesn't add up here. neil: i do want to make it about that. half the people in this country pay no income taxes. but when you add the start, half the people not paying taxes, then you've got a math problem right away, right? to marry first imac. >> for sure there's a segment of people in the middle who are getting clobbered on having them going.

i agree with the president on not. you won't deal with a pity entitlement bills this country has to pay. he wanted to keep up with infrastructure spending. you need that growth in the growth will come from people who have money and put it to work and productive things. not in handing that over to the federal government. we've tried cutting taxes and hoping that spurs the economy and it doesn't happen. the increase -- >> there's no doubt. >> you can't deny they created a huge deficit problem that the republican mics to blame. neil: under ronald reagan that created a billion. >> let me try to fix the debt and deficit spending.

barack obama equals all its predecessors. don't lecture us on obama now makes that somehow that is a good thing for the deficit. the reason my middle-class americans are hurting and hillary clinton is writing books is because they haven't seen their economics increase. they are getting killed on obama taxes and this is not working. we also rewards mall business. they are not going to get better. donald trump's policies are hurting the people that voted for them. they are only helping the wealthiest among us. >> last time you were here you haven't been interested. >> what talk about what gets put forward. those all hurt the that voted for them. >> nothing happened there.

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try and do alright come the president arriving back at fort myers. that is just so cool. he has wrapped up not in fort myers, but naples. he'll be heading back to washington d.c. to deal with the natural disaster that hit burma, and the next -- harvey. dealing with these crises and the federal government and all forces to martial coordination on this day, local level.

that will propel deals. democrats getting the debt ceiling last week. but the guarantee of more aid for hurricane but guns. but two extended to progress on tax cuts, tax reform, whatever you want to call it as it goes back to get all of that wrapped up before the end of the year. meanwhile, meteorologist who's been documenting this time the president was addressing the fallout from all day today. by any definition, it was his doric, wasn't it? >> it was devastated by the storm surge. such a large storm that even though it did reach a category five, category four made

landfall. and especially -- [inaudible] summer winds, the worst-case scenario there. as he had read some highway one, we spoke to a man who rode out the storm and use of the back side, floating by his house is an absolutely terrifying experience. neil: you kind of verified it fair that the keys got the worst of this, so the recoveries will be the longest. >> they still don't have power to check and unloved ones. people are scared.

it is as bad as it gets out there. when i was there a few days ago, and the hotel that we were income of people already started to get nervous they didn't know how long it would take to recover. a bad situation down there. neil: amazing. amazing images. reed, thank you. reed timmer not only covering this, but reporting the images that are pretty historic and memorable. meanwhile, or loss of property value to say nothing of the real economic impact and of course so many tragic injuries and deaths, especially those eight in the nursing home in southern florida. the fallout on a lot of people is an intriguing place to retire or move to. could this have been set up a little bit? people say maybe not. if real estate is an infinite

suffering as a result. what he did, katrina? >> you know coming out, this is so big and has so many different parts of florida that i think in order to have the discussion we have to discuss the different parts that were fact it. southeast florida will rebound within the next two to three weeks because we have the experience is just a lot of fallen trees and so forth. they won't be as effective now if we change the error to the florida keys will take months and over a year because he was hit so directly. there's also naples and fort myers, which are more effective than southeast florida. ultimately people want to be in florida. as we've seen with various hurricanes like katrina and hurricane andrew, we've seen actually realtors and of having

their best years after storms like this, which is very ironic. people rebuild, lot of insurance money comes into the state and you end up seeing a lot of sales. they think it's reasonable depending on what area recover faster than others. i have some closings that are going to get delayed now because you have to make sure the properties are in the same conditions. appraisers may have to go back out there and insurance companies will not be very quick to buying insurance right now and you need insurance if you're going to get a mortgage. overall, the southeast coast is not affected by the real estate, but the key is unfortunately have suffered so much and it will take a long time for the area to recover. >> especially these potentially delayed closing. do you find that the mortgage and banks are seen in a while, when he deserted mess up a little tighter, just to make

sure we are not on the hook should something bad happen to the home where underwriting. drink you know in florida, neil, we have a clause in all of the contract that basically says if there's a mac divide, and that they have to rectify all of the issues before and there is no penalties for the buyer not closing on time. so that i feel is what's going to occur in the keys and naples and fort myers. i have closings taking place in miami and fort lauderdale i'd just got word yesterday they will continue as scheduled because the properties were not damaged in the lot to do a walk-through before hand to make sure everything is signed. that causes really critical and they will deal with the close much faster than people getting mortgages because insurance companies are not going to move very fast in the area after something like this. train to all of the prior cases always comes back. that someone in attributes that

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neil: neil: president trump wrapping up his visit to florida along with his wife, melania. he surprised a lot of folks, not only how it's handling the storms quite well even by some democratic standards, but the fact he's negotiating with the same democrats who used to rip him a new one. some republicans get in their proverbial nose out, which gave the reaction of the same from

big-time supporter robert downey towards those republicans. great to see you, my friend. you are not keen on how republicans are handling all this. no, not at all. first off, day one when donald trump announced it was republican backlash. i know because i was one of the very early supporters when i started to come on your show. neil: and you went away early on. >> every time there is another bump in the road, i defended a certain kind of way of looking at what he was doing in the populist message. gop, all my friends in hollywood beside the left -- neil: how many are there? >> there's a few. a few underground. there is a backlash. i think people are waiting on both sides to sniper him. because it's about america first.

this for some reason, i've said this for years but the politicians call it draining the swamp, but they've become almost the commissars of the soviet union. neil: weather and the writer left to become part of the establishment. >> that's what they are, the latest in the establishment. i'm a blue-collar actor. i don't go with the elite of hollywood or delete in terms of washington d.c. because i'm a trump supporter. they are not going to have a trump supporter -- neil: they raise a lot of money -- >> they do that and they have to expect that. there's another big problems and winemaker at the gop. he had the talent to not denigrate or make myself sound could have gotten praise from quincy jones and other people. i gave my services to the trunk campaign to sing anytime they wanted me to. not once. i've anthony scaramucci o-oscar

maduro, other people ask. not once -- neil: sera amici in the good days. yeah, when he was very close -- i don't know. who knows. neil: are you sure that wasn't coming from trump himself? >> i know he treated some of the articles and i know that he liked me, but i don't think -- i think the inner sanctum. there's always jealousy around the court. some people tell me it was mark bernat. i don't know who it was. it is long because when you have a guy that is coming out for the gop or conservative values and especially for this president and his nomination initially inviting hollywood all the way. they should then say to themselves, you know what, let's give them the spotlight because it only helps them.

neil: why would they do that? >> i don't know. it makes no sense. i wish someone would tell me. i wish one of you people out there would let me know what the problem is. let me say it. donald trump speaks to people and if it was being done to him, he would be quite upset. i want to know, what is the problem? neil: okay. that is scary. you are very good. you are going to have a new role this fall, planing a mob priests. so what is that about? >> is a great film from a new project we've been working on for several years gathering around in your direct air, writer. he came up with this concept and a great cast. luke dawson plays a chaplain coming back from afghanistan. it's a three-part. big deals with corruption inside

certain aspects of the church and outside dealing with the mafia figures, make you work, i'm a catholic. the foundation on sunday. i was scared. neil: the argus is maybe a controversial controversial role, but will do a lot of good. >> anything that brings a church in different lighting deals with corruption. over the centuries if you look at the history of the church. neil: this is based on a moderate come of different things. neil: do you get to sing in it? you really do have a great voice. i wish you well. >> i'll be touring, estonia,

latvia. i go there in the beginning of october and the dom working with david thomas, great group. i'll let you know. have you gone to the white house? >> cadiz chirps, bird chirps. it is just not right. >> have you ever been on lou dobbs show? lou dobbs i've been on one. once we had a great -- ill have to talk to lou. at a certain point, i don't know. he was very nice. neil: a class act. the president loves him. he's not a big fan of mine. that happens. neil: there so many people who love you. you are fair and unified. come on. neil: you've got a go. one of the nicest guys in and outside of hollywood, great voice and now a priest but then

the mob. you can't write this. neil: a lot more after this. henry cuellar one of those with the united states through a kind of deals might've been made there. maybe the congressman will tell us. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. we have to think about not when we expect to live to, but when we could live to. let's plan for income that lasts all our years in retirement. prudential. bring your challenges.

>> we are not talking about amnesty. we are talking about taking care of people. people that were brought here, have done a good job and were not brought here of their own volition. importantly what we want, we have to have a wall. it's a lawless construct did, we will be determining how much we need and then we are not doing anything. neil: the president sort of laying it out there. do i do the children of illegal immigrants in this country through no fault of their own want to stay in this country and don't want to be kicked out of this country, we have to build a

wall. texas democratic congressman henry cuellar with a crucial role to reach out to democrats. among those meeting with the white house last night or yesterday i should say. that seems to be the way the president is presenting it. a wall, we deal with daca. am i hearing it right? >> yesterday he said something different. strong border security and deal with that on another piece of legislation. we can deal with the wall. we can talk about that at another time. we've got to do with the six months the president says he doesn't wait six months. he wants to do that as soon as possible. if we sit down and work with outcome of the members of congress from republicans and democrats can work something out. neil: he was not against these kids who are here, but against the way the predecessor barack obama handled it through executive action in taking the power of congress.

i think you and i chatted at the time because congress had enacted on this. do you think it will now? >> i hope so. keep in mind president trump the day after he received the order, he came back. he got six months if not we'll revisit that. he left that out then. the bottom line i want to make sure that we get this done. i prefer to have congress. we are the ones driving the laws and i prefer to have congress address this issue. neil: on taxes, if there is such a link and now it's part of the discussions yesterday as well, are you inclined or would you be open to supporting the tax cut measure that left out the wealthy? >> certainly. i want to make sure we have tax cuts. i support that. i've been talking to my friend for the state legislature, kevin

brady. we've been talking about this with the blue dogs. we've been in conversation with him, secretary mnuchin. as blue dogs, we want to see something that works well. the question is we want to make sure we don't add to the credit cards. this is something the blue dogs have been very strong on. neil: m1 during war you see it all going. i get a sense that whatever support the president is going to get, held the democratic vote because it is so narrow and especially some of the resistance he is getting from the freedom caucus for conservative republican congressman mayor, video definitely need democratic vote, perhaps your own included. are you of that opinion? >> yes, i am. i brought that up specifically to the president. if he saw every piece of major legislation, not the message and bells, but the final bill

including the harvey relief where they lost 90 republicans. most of the votes are democratic even though we are in the minority and republicans are the majority. one way or the other, the president understands he said. i told them that fact. he said he understood it and we will give this a shot, which is a new strategy out of the white house to be bipartisan. if not, the president said we will try to run over democrat and that has not been very successful. neil: people are so used to each side sticking to itself and may be catering to its base that nothing is ever changing. do you think now it might? >> you know, i hope so. you are right. both parties demonize each other. iran talks about being bipartisan but it never happens.

we have to do what is right and that means bipartisan. they are sick and tired of the excuses we have here. not the perfect bill, we don't like the section. they want to roll up the sleeves and get it done. i want to thank president trump forgiving democrats and republicans together and he got the senators together. i hope if you look at what clinton, george bush, they've brought in democrat to work together and that's the way it should be. it is what the american public wants and they are sick and tired of us coming up with excuses. neil: a lot of people fear on the more liberal wing of your party, congressman, that any tax-cut package that would include, you know, inc. so a 16%, even 20% would be dead on arrival with them. that is going to come at too low.

you have a figure in mind that would be a dealbreaker? >> again, if we can get down to 15% and help the small, medium-sized companies that have individual cuts, i want to do that. i don't want to put this on credit card. it's not only progressives that have a problem. it's also a tea party. the left in the right, how you get moderate democrats and republicans to work together and at the end of the day, that's how the deals are done. that's what history teaches us and we need to learn from those lessons. >> when you look at what is being done right now, is it your sense whatever the president is making that it's possible by the end of the year. we have been working on it. this is not the first time we talk about tax reform. keep in mind, the last time i tax reform in 1986 or even immigration reform, it was a

republican bipartisan. so it's got to be bipartisan. no one's going to run over anybody. stop thinking republicans will run over democrats are democrats are going to do that. let's make a long-lasting. if it's bipartisan that will last a lot longer. neil: the bipartisan initiatives, the historic ones deemed successful, whether people flipped over them or not have agreed to support on the left and right. we will see what happens. can happens. thank you very, very much. republican congressmen speaking here. the record territory of about 44 points. one is a disproportionate reason why i'm indicating contract players are coming past the dreamland that would increase those now. a lot of that has to do with the same week we learned malaysia will be scooping up quite a few of those claims over the next five years or more. we will have more after this.

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>> the wealthy americans are not my priority. my prayer dear people in the middle class and that's where we are getting a big tax reduction to. it's about the middle class and job in bringing jobs back to the country, bringing the company's back so that companies can get a reduction in right now we are

paying the highest tax rates in the world. we want that of around 15%. neil: every time i hear that, i think all the very wealthy people, did he just say i'm not getting a break? i don't know. adding to the confusion, kevin brady of the house ways and means committee saying he does not expect september 25th, the time we are supposed to get the details that the tax plan will offer many specifics about corporate or individual rates. i know this is like an abbott and costello, the september september 25th would be the day you would have all this stuff. maybe not. count me confused. fortunately for me, best guess we've ever had. also a good read of what's going on. that is not what they were saying. the 25th was going to be a day we would get all of the details and now the chief architects on the house ways and means committee maybe not when the

president saying the possibility of the wealthy don't get a break. i'm confused. >> you're confused? i'm confused and i'm in the business. it's like this. what he said this kind of a half-truth. when he said i'm not concerned about the wealthy. i'm concerned about the middle class and working people. they voted him in, but it was the wealthy. he wasn't all do a self funder. he was not michael bloomberg. he had woody johnson, some really good people that were writing checks. neil: >> they did it for the good of the cause, but the good of the cause is the republican platform and that is one thing to believe. we believe that we stand. the republican party, whether what you believe socially, and you do stand for these things in common. low tax and less regulation. we don't get the tax deal right.

we don't get this straight. neil: they argue the markets hold of the way it has come in even we are not going to see. >> understand what it is. neil: corporate rates come crashing down. it's going to help their investments, which is largely very and they will make a lot of money anyway. what do you think of that? >> that's okay, too. the way he's framing it sounds like he doesn't care about the sector. neil: so maybe he's doing it to get democratic support because he knows, you know, so close in the senate getting stuff through. you almost need that. leaving the red side of the tax cut would secure democratic votes. >> you know what come you got me on that because it is true. if you look at it from a marketing trick italian viewpoint, what he is doing is putting it out there to do kind of a false self. the democrats cut the class

warfare. they don't like the wealthy. by saying i don't care about the wealthy, some on the left will say you are one of the because we want to make the common man and we don't like the wealthy they are evil. maybe if he does that. >> your bundler who want money for candidates and causes who want to run for reelection. are they disappointed in this or do they feel the former amex chairman next dress hussein this is still better than it would have been if hillary clinton were here. >> of course. he ran on the right side of the street, and so they like him because he's a republican. i saw the interview and notice what he said and i think a lot of my donors feel the same way. but i think behind the scenes, they are like a donut and this

president. i don't have a good feel for his psyche. i'm not sure what he's doing and a lot of that is attributed to the tweed and the fact the white house will send another message in at 3:00 a.m. a.m. sometimes the messages contradict being. neil: or that it's been more statistic lately. but do you think he's found his sea legs here or that is righting the ship? >> after tax reform, if we get it and we get something good, game on. i think we are back in business because we stumbled on health care. i'm not saying something people are going to kill me with. neil: the war in the republican party. they didn't like the republican congress getting the blame, but the president made a point to say you are the reason this didn't happen. so puts them on the spot. >> to put them on notice. neil: was a counterproductive?

be my guest, it's beautiful for him. he was the whole thing because he basically said i won all these things. you must not because you didn't get it done. i'm depending on you to get it done and you didn't do it. so he kind of walked away unscathed. what is sad is the gop brand. blackout affected. >> he said you can't get everything done without them -- they are sick of hearing from the time the show, except for me to say only democrats have unity. while paul ryan did was try to show unity. whether we believe ryan or not, we need to show it. neil: and exercise it. very good seeing you again. so much of what the president outlines and we are just getting witness said the confusion on the part of the house certainly and kevin brady says the 25th,

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neil: busy couple hours, ben carson will be our guest

tomorrow, hurricane relief efforts trying to get cities ready for the unthinkable in case of a new wave of such storms becomes more the rule rather than the exception. my special guest ben carson tomorrow. trish regan, see if they can go a couple hours. >> the president is on his way back to washington after spending the day in florida meeting with hurricane irma victims, looking at pictures that just came in as he doubles down on his promise to secure the border. build the wall, cut taxes for the middle class. the number one priority is the middle class and it is not the wealthy so what does that mean? welcome to "the intelligence report" the president vowing to bring tax relief to millions of hard-working americans but when asked if that meant raising taxes for high income earners, people paying the taxes,