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the top of the hour. we have record for s&p 500. another record for the dow. [closing bell rings] we'll wait to see the settlement of the nasdaq. let me send it over to david and lauren simonetti for "after the bell." >> so close. we'll it a couple minutes before we know, david. david: popped into record territory as you were talking. lauren: nasdaq hit a record. dow closing up 6 points. ending brand new record high for the fifth day in a row as investors see renewed hope for tax reform. s&p 500 logging new record as well. nasdaq, oh so close five or six points away from a record. we'll see once numbers settle. i'm lauren simonetti in for melissa francis. david: good to see you. i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." more on the big market movers. here is what else we're covering for you in a very busy hour. an historic day for president
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trump making his first appearance at the u.n. the president teasing some of his ideas for u.n. reform today ahead of his big address tomorrow. steve hilton will be joining us whether we can ever expect real reform from an organization as corrupt as the u.n. the equifax hack, how scammers are taking advantage. situation. how you can spot them. protests in st. louis turning violent overnight. police makes 80 arrests. small business owners seeing their stores destroyed. we saw one restaurant owner who fears he will be targeted again. lauren: s&p 500 to record territory. nicole petallides on floor of new york stock exchange. with big movers. good to see you, nicole. >> take a look. we finish with up arrows across the board after the best week of the year for the dow, up more
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than 470 last week. up 65 points for the dow jones industrial average. any kind -- gain for the dow and s&p was a new record. nasdaq came very close but did not set a closing record high. that being said, take a look at names you mentioned that were all-time highs. we saw boeing as a real winner. caterpillar and microsoft all-time highs today. we did see boeing get an upgrade from ubs, with a $140 price target. look at some defense secretary james mattis stocks. we had breaking news from general jim mattis, u.s. defense secretary. jim mattis basically saying a few things, including a few things about north korea. also about more troops in afghanistan. 3,000 additional troops. to afghanistan, from u.s. defense secretary jim mat cities. we're keeping eye on defense stocks. look at orbital. that is because after 8 billion-dollar deal with
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northrop grumman. nvidia moved to new highs. had intraday new high for the nasdaq. couldn't quite get it across. toss it back to you. nvidia, 52 weeks, 187% gain. that is pretty great. back to you guys. lauren: no record for nasdaq but up 17%. david: but that is pretty good. investors as we mentioned before is betting on tax reform as one key congressman is pushing tax cuts for all americans. >> we're unified around strong middle class tax cuts. i want to lower the rates at every level so people can keep more what they earn and we can grow the economy. i honestly believe washington takes too much of what people earn and they waste too much of what they take while they have got it. david: let's go to today's panel. steve cortes, spokesman for hispanic 100 and former advisor to the trump campaign and. across the board tax cuts from kevin brady.
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he writes tax law and that is important. that is good solid messaging, wasn't it. >> that is great messaging, david in advance of the big event next monday or at least next week when we're supposed to get some numbers applied to those promises. and i think one of the things you have to look at before we get too far ahead of ourselves, david, the republicans have to pass a budget. inside of that budget they have to include some estimates of tax revenue so they can pass the tax bill via reconciliation. in other words, about 52 votes. if they don't do that. they will have to go to donald trump's new best friends, the democrats, chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, and i doubt you will see sort of numbers kevin brady is talking about if you bring the democrats in. david: steve a as you know very well, donald trump doesn't like to get caught in the weeds. he wants something done right now. frankly i want it to be done as soon as possible but not just for my own pocketbook but for
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the good economy to grow. kevin brady will not have a complete tax package next monday as dan was mentioning. that is not soon enough for donald trump. >> listen, beauty of having entrepreneur as president, our first non-government president ever, our citizen president, he wants to do things yesterday. he has the pace of a developer, of an entrepreneur. he will demand quick action here. i think we will get it. don't take my word for it, david. there is much consternation, among the main street media and k street lobbyists who think we can't get it done, who seems to believe in it, financial markets. the stock i watch more than any other is boeing. i view that ultimate trump stock because a combination of defense and infrastructure spending. boeing soaring to all-time highs again today as it has for many, many months. up 80% since the election. investors believe we can and will get this done.
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lauren: there is hope for health care reform. a senior white house official says it is very possible that the lindsey graham, bill cassidy bill to replace obamacare could move forward. the legislation turns control of the health care markets over to the states. dan, i begin with you here. do you think, i know they want to get this done by october 1st so they can avoid the filibuster. do you think they can get it done? >> i think it is possible they can get it done, lauren. they need a win on health care after the embarassment they went through last time. graham-cassidy is pretty good bill. i would support it. it gets rid of tax on medical devices and it block grants the problem back to the states. let's the governors experiment. it's a pretty good solution. the alternative to doing nothing and letting democrats hammer republicans all the way through to next year's midterm elections, along with the obamacare exchanges
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disintegrating as they undoubtedly will. i kind of hope they do get this graham-cassidy bill voted on. melissa: steve, rand paul says he is a no. they can't afford to lose many more votes. seems like senator from maine, senator from alaska, even john mccain, are potential nos here. what will happen? this is the hail mary pass, hey we tried everything we can to get repeal and replace done? >> right. lauren, one of the masterful things president trump did when he reached out to democrats on hurricane harvey aid and daca, part of what he is doing playing chess in washington, d.c., putting the republican leadership on the hill on notice, by the way you failed miserably to deliver what you promised to the american people. if you can't do it i will cobble coalitions that can whether daca, hurricane aid or health care. this is by far the biggest failure of republican leadership on the hill. if they can save it in the 11th hour that would be
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terrific for them. thankfully trump put them against the wall, said do it or else. melissa: they want to move on to tax reform. >> right. david: meanwhile are all democrats socialists? former vice president joe biden may be an exception, coming out against universal basic income, i believe we can, we must build a future that puts work first. my father had an expression. he would say joey a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. it is about your dignity. it is about yourself respect. it is about your place in your community. so, dan, you have bernie socialism versus joe's self-reliance. which do you think will win out in the democratic party? >> that is the question of our time, how progressive are the democrats going? bernie proposed medicare for all which incidentally will be the alternative to graham-cassidy. i think that was a good statement by joe biden. he said we should not make corporations the enemy. pretty clear that joe biden is
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moving himself to the center trying to distinguish himself from bernie sanders's socialism. it was kind of and encouraging thing to see at least one democrat come out against this guaranteed income. david: steve, that is just one guy. granted he used to be the vice president, he is an important guy in the democratic party. all the democrats around bernie for socialized medicine. even liberals in the media like dana nil bank in the "washington post" wrote a piece, democrats are now all socialists. are you worried about the future of the democratic party? it is kind of dangerous to have republicans and socialists? >> oh, gosh, am i worried? i couldn't be more worried. i have a daughter starting college. college campuses amazing to me love bernie sanders. they love him who promises freebies. it is not really free. it matters who is paying. i'm glad joe biden said that he positioned himself to run again. he was first elected to
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washington, d.c. in the senate, in 1972. that is the year i was born. i'm not young. he has been in the washington game, literally my entire life, i'm a middle-aged man. that is pathetic. time for new leadership. as republican please bring on the old guys with old ideas because i would love to take them on in 2018 and 2020. david: a wise old man told me socialism isn't free, you pay for it with your freedom. unfortunately a lot of young people don't realize. dan, steve, thank you very much. lauren: bracing for impact. the northeast and caribbean on high alert as two major hurricanes approach. the latest on jose and maria coming up. david: when will that end. north korea is sent a message as the rogue nation speeds up its nuclear program. will leaders at the u.n. do anything but talk about it? lauren: great anticipation around the world for president
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on the agenda, pushing reform in the global governing body, cutting waste. streamlining efficiency. with more from new york, fox business's adam shapiro. hey, adam. reporter: hey, lauren, they did all that before lunch. the president is very busy as meets with world leaders gathered here for the general assembly. he is at the united nations. they're looking for ways to streamline the operation and make it more efficient. he also met, two hours ago a an hour, rather, the french leader emannuel macron, that meeting he is discussing not only way iran is destablizing the middle east and effects of terrorism on countries like france. in that meeting with him, secretary of treasury steve mnuchin who has been key in stopping the financing of terrorist operations using the power of the united states. earlier today, the president, president trump, met with bibi netanyahu, prime minister
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of israel, talking about iran and its destablizing role in the middle east and also talking about the prospects for middle east peace. the big issue for the president was also streamlining the u.n., making it more efficient because the united states donates $3 billion a year to the budget with the single largest contributor of any nation. here is what the president said about the need to make the u.n. more efficient. >> we encourage all member-states to look at ways to take bold stands at the united nations with an eye toward changing business as usual. and not being beholden to ways of the past which were not working. reporter: now the president will be having dinner this, later this afternoon, early this evening with latin american leaders. we expect they will be discussing venezuela. he is not expected to talk with mr. maduro, the dictator, president, whatever you wish to call him, from venezuela. of course tomorrow, president trump will be delivering a
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speech to the u.n. general assembly, sometime tomorrow morning between 10:30, a little later perhaps. he is one of the people who will be speaking. but we do expect the president to be discussing north korea because that is the other issue everyone is talking about at the united nations. back to you. lauren: one of the themes in that speech, adam is accountability. that will be key. thank you so much. david: here now to comment on the president's inaugural u.n. address is steve hilton, former prime minister david cameron's director of strategy. he dealt with the u.n. quite a bit in that position and he is host of "the next revolution" on fnc. steve, last night on your show you went through a litany of the scandals. you could have spent, one, two, or three hours doing that but the question is whether those scandals are the norm or whether they're the exception? i'm inclined to believe wherever you have international bureaucracy this is going to be the norm. the president says you can clean it up. is it redeemable? >> i think you're exactly right. look, i agree with what the
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president said and i wish him well and i hope they listen to him. but the problem i explained last night, you heard exact same message every time there is new secretary-general, leader of the u.n., this new guy, former socialist leader of portugal. what chance is there of someone of that background coming in and cutting costs making things more efficient. you heard it from kofi annan in 1997, ban ki-moon in 2006. they come in, making reforms and efficient, transparent, accountable, yet the waste and bureaucracy and inefficiency goes on and on. the heart of it, the u.n. is built on wrong foundations philosophically wrong. they're not promoting things which know lead to prosperity and property, rule of law, free press -- david: you will not get human rights from iran and other regimes like that, that are on
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the human rights commission. >> that's right. david: now, we, as president, a businessman. he kind of looks at bottom line figures and tries to see whether we get a return on our investment. he spoke to that point today. take a listen and get your response. >> while the united nations on a regular budget has increased by 140% and its staff has more than doubled since 2000, we are not seeing the results in line with this investment. david: now again, he is a businessman. he looks at it from a business perspective. i don't think you can do that with an international organization because there is no, as lauren was saying there is no accountable. in business there is, at the u.n. there isn't. >> that is exactly right and the problem is that america, we, our viewers are paying for this, around a quarter of -- david: through the nose they're paying for it, absolutely. >> right. with that funding you don't get any control. that is where there is lack of
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accountability. if you really want to see change happen, then in the end, the president and america will have to threaten to withhold funding. that i think might finally get them to take notice. david: steve, the one thing that the u.n. can do or at least has done, once in my lifetime during the conflict with iraq, when iraq invaded kuwait, the u.n. got together as united front to push iraq out of kuwait. that was successful. that is the one time i can remember. we're dealing with a crisis with north korea right now. could the u.n. play any constructive role in dealing with north korea? >> it doesn't seem like that to me. kim jong-un is not interested in those kind of normal diplomatic solutions. there is a couple of things we need to do. one to get much tougher with china. anytime anyone talks with north korea. they say the solution is partly to do with china. you have to put more pressure on. at the moment we're not putting enough pressure on china.
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there are things that could have bigger impact. for example, the chinese regime, the economist leadership, they send their kids to america, stanford university, close to where i'm speaking from you today, top universities, elites send their kids here, if you want to get china's attention, punish elites, put sanctions on them. we need to start being aggressive about the missile tests. we need to start shooting down these missiles, to see if that gets their tanks. david: we'll talk more about that in a minute. steve hilton, great to see you. "the next revolution." on sunday nights. see you. >> see you soon. lauren: a road black in trump administration plans to combat sanctuary cities. what does jordan sekulow think about this? we'll ask him in a minute. protests continue in st. louis. certain business owners see their stores destroyed. the fallout next. >> how much control do you think
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david: chaos in the streets of st. louis. demonstrate protest the acquittal of a ex-police officer in the death after african-american man. mike tobin was in the middle of all of this. got caught up in some of the violence. mike joins us from the streets of st. louis. hi, mike. reporter: the sushi restaurant took a lot of rocks through the window. in this case it came out of this little bit of construction here. we saw a lot of spontaneous vandalism of opportunity. it started after night fall last night. the main demonstration was largely lawful.
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they blocked traffic but otherwise stayed in the boundaries of the law. that was declared over 6:30. a group of young people according to police were hell-bent having a conflict with police or breaking a lot of things, hung around. they took off walking around the city. their march, if you will, grew in intensity. they started pulling things out into the intersections to block traffic. after they knocked over flower pots. they broke up the concrete and put concrete through the windows of these different businesses. now you have all the businesses who didn't have anything to do with the stockily verdict who are out of their money. have to put in a new window. a lot had to shut down because of demonstrations. a lost demonstrators came here intent on sending a message. their message has been overwhelmed by a handful, probably somewhat more of a dozen vandals showing up and overwhelming the demonstrations. david. david: great summary what happened, mike, thank you very much. appreciate it. lauren. lauren: let's big into this,
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st. louis business owners are on edge after seeing their storefronts destroyed. we have here a restaurant owner whose windows were smashed in, three of them by demonstrators sat stay night. thank you for joining us sir. >> thank you. lauren: i hear you're open today. the protests have been largely peaceful during the day but it is at night where they're getting pretty violent. are you closing tonight because you're worried about what might happen? >> well, i am. i'm going to close around 4:00 or 4:30. i want all my employees to leave safely. hopefully will be really peaceful tonight. but safe better than sorry. lauren: you're obviously concerned that more damage could be done to your storefronts, other business notice area. of course your employees. how bad of a situation is this? >> pardon me? lauren: how bad after situation is this for you? >> well the, when they started
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it was really peaceful. at the end, just getting out of control. i don't what happened. they started breaking the windows and stuff. this is the first time it happened in st. louis, this violence. i have never seen it before. i've been here almost 10 years. i've never seen it like this before. hopefully it will be a one-time. that is it and we're done with it. lauren: here at fox business we love small businesses. you're the backbone of the economy. can you explain what kind of costs this will be to you to repair the damage? also to be closed tonight? >> well, the cost of going to fix this place is really high, when i bring somebody they say, high dollar. what is high, i don't know. i'm calling a tomorrow a contractor and they will give us a bid about because they broke for me three big windows. it really hurts small businesses like us. lauren: in your opinion right now what is really preventing the restoration of law and order right now?
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>> pardon me? lauren: when do you think you can feel safe again? what would have to happen? >> well, i think today they are going to demonstrate around 6, 6:30. like i say, it will be safe. people from st. louis, i have never seen violence like this. you know, i mean i think it will be like this time and that is it, kids did it or somebody like they don't know what they're doing. everybody here in the community, helping each other and like we all in the same boat. i think we're done with it. lauren: are other businesses nearby closing tonight as well? are they in the same position as you with the same thought process here? >> yes. they are, i think two or three they're closing too. and tomorrow we'll open like nothing is going to happen. lauren: day four of protests. sir, thank you so much for your time. good luck to you as you repair that damage and open again
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tomorrow. thank you. >> thank you very much. have a good day. thanks, bye. david: good, hard-working people trying to make a living, that's all. they have nothing to do with all this stuff. lauren: a restaurant closed for dinner. that is a big hit financially. david: meanwhile another major storm is strengthening in the caribbean. the entire region already struggling in the aftermath of hurricane irma as another system is threatening the east coast of the u.s. when and where the storms are expected to strike. details coming up. lauren: plus the terror attack in london. police making a significant arrest but the city's major's mayor is urging caution. mike baker, former cia officer, is next. >> so the message to commuters, message to londoners, continue to be vigilant, you need to be alert. if you have any information or see anything suspicious please alert the authorities. ♪
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david: the party continuing on wall street. with the dow and s&p 500 at record highs. this is the 40th dow high. most record closes for the beginning of year through the 19th of september, since 1995. a good year. so far. lauren: sound like a broken record. david: that is a good record. lauren: to london a second suspect arrested in connection with the london train terror
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attack that injured dozens of people on friday morning on crowded train station on wednesday morning. benjamin hall with the very latest. reporter: we're learning more about the two men who were arrested in connection with the attack on friday. both were refugees, one from iraq and one from syria. both were foster children from the same home. one was arrested where he worked. a 21-year-old from syria. he come over from the war-torn country four years ago. both he and the other suspect, an 18-year-old orphan from iraq, fostered at this home which is subject of intense search, and people trying to find out if there were more people involved in the cell. the police visited the house a number of times. meaning they may have already had suspicions about the two. it was largely thanks to the cc-tv trail they were tracked down. this one particular video showing the 18-year-old iraqi suspect wearing a hat, helped identify the terrorist, as he
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waited for a ferry trying to leave the uk. in it he is seen to be carrying what is now named bomb in a bucket which left 29 people injured when it partly exploded on a crowded london subway underground train during a rush hour. had the bomb detonated fully, thought hundreds may have been killed or injured. here in the uk the terror level has been reduced from critical to severe. meaning the government does not believe another attack is imminent. nevertheless there are reports that the police are searching for one more man in connection with the attack. in london, benjamin hall, fox news. lauren: benjamin hall, thank you. david: here to react, former cia officer mike baker. one of those refugees was staying at a house, elderly couple, took in a lot of refugees. they had best intentions. they were awarded a medal bit wine of england, look what happens. you didn't hear a lot about their refugee status on sunday
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talk shows because it didn't fit the narrative trump's call for travel ban is bad. >> they kind of pushed that aside, talked more about the investigation and what it all means, but it is an important aspect. is it the most important aspect of the story? no. except for the fact both of these individuals that have been arrested now, the syrian and the iraqi they fit in a sense the sort of the 30,000-foot, you know, profile of the individuals who were kind ever drawn to the dark side of islam, to the radical extremist point of view. they're disaffected, not really connected to the society. even though this young man raised in foster home to some degree, there is no connection living in the society. david: the connection where their roots were. i want to push back a little bit, what i would say to you, you know better than anybody, terrorists always pick soft targets. the softer the target, more likely you will have a terrorist
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attack. i look a country with a travel ban, at least in the process of dealing with a travel ban like the united states and one that doesn't like the uk, and it is obvious which one is a softer target, right? >> yes. you're not really pushing back, we're on the same sheet of music here. look, we have every right in this country to know about the people that come to our country. every nation in that regard, there is no difference between us and mexico and china or anyone else. we have the same right as every other country to be concerned about that. if we think an aspect of the program, of the immigration program or the refugee program needs to be reviewed or fixed we have every right to do that which is essentially all this travel ban was about. it was simply saying if you're coming from a war-torn destablized environment where there is no infrastructure for us to do decent due diligence on you, we need to step back, to fix that and how do we resolve that before we bring more people
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in. david: look at a place for libya, which is a gateway for a lot of middle earners in europe, it has no governing structure whatsoever. terrorists are in control of some areas. isis is in control of some areas. you don't want to let those people in. the president tweeted right after the terrorist attack took place on friday, tweeted out the travel ban in the u.s. should be far larger, tougher and more specific but stupidly that would not be politically correct. i think he has got a point, no? >> well he has got a point. i would argue sometimes his point gets lost in the way that it is messaged. look, my business, we had hundreds of people in iraq for years and one of the things we did was try to gather information, due diligence on individuals who may be working for u.s. government there, or military or infrastructure companies. i'm here to tell you in a place like iraq or these other countries on this travel ban list, you have to get very granular, meaning if we would
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get any reliable credible information on individual we were looking at, we had to have people go to the villages, try to find somebody associated with them. it is that difficult. david: right. >> i'm telling you right now, when the state department in the past few recent years, no, we're doing this, it is a very robust program, that is the not case. david: that is impossible. you can't do it in a place like libya right now. i think the president has a point. mike baker, great to see you my friend. good stuff. >> thank you, david. lauren: not one but two hurricanes are now threatening the northeast and the caribbean. hurricane maria, she is a category 3 storm and is expected to strengthen before making landfall later tonight. the storm bringing high winds and rain to the region still suffering from damage from hurricane irma which swept through the same areas just days ago. then you have jose, a category 1 storm expected to dump heavy rain here in the northeast. the storm should remain offshore we hope, but bring with it,
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coastal flooding and high surf to the east coast. are you ready, bring the umbrella. david: one after the another after another. lauren: after another. david: preying on innocent consumers, how scammers are taking advantage of millions of americans impacted by the equifax hack. what you need to know to protect your data. made in the usa. how the deal-maker-in-chief is bringing jobs back to american workers. think your large cap equity fund has exposure to energy infrastructure mlps? think again. it's time to shake up your lineup. the alerian mlp etf can diversify your equity portfolio and add potential income. bring amlp into the game. before investing, consider the fund's investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses. read the prospectus carefully at alpsfunds.com/amlp
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if you get a call, do not stay on the phone. equifax has no reason to call anybody. the hackers can make fake caller i.d.s that look like the equifax phone numbers. if you think you should speak equifax, you call from your own phone, you place the call. equifax has a dedicated line from victims. you have to place the call. separately the department of justice launching a criminal probe into potential insider trading at company. treetop execs including the cfo, john gamble, sold nearly $2 million worth of company stock between the time they learned of the hack in the summer and the time they made the public aware of it. so if that is true, we're getting this from regulatory filings if that is true, if that is proven, it is difficult to see how the execs will avoid jail time. there are already 23 proposed
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class action lawsuits against the company along with a ftc investigation. this hack is so dangerous. 40% of americans are affected. names, social security numbers, addresses, dates of birth in some cases, drivers license numbers were stolen. these are basically the i.d. profile pieces for someone to pretend to be you. experts say it is even worse because security companies warned he equifax months beforee hack about weaknesses in their system and equifax execs either chose not to do anything about it or they couldn't, but whether it is idiocy or incompetency, that literally changes nothing for literally 143 million people affected. the best course of action to freeze credit. just a side note, david, you have to do so with three credit agencies. equifax obviously, experian and transunion. you have to do it each one separately.
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back to you. david: god, makes you furious. deirdre bolton, thank you very much. lauren. lauren: not free to freeze your credit file. wisconsin governor scott walker signing a 3 billion-dollar foxconn incentive package into law this afternoon. foxconn is known for making apple iphones. that is contingent of foxconn investing $10 billion of its own money to make a screen display factory. they have to employ 13,000 workers in the state to get money. david: you wonder where amazon will put its headquarters. i bet denver, colorado. taking legal action, the lawsuit challenging president trump's decision to end daca. why are these dreamers so concerned? cracking down on sanctuary cities. a key ruling by a federal judge that could take the trump administration a step back fighting illegal immigration. jordan sekulow, american center
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lauren: there is a roadblock in the crackdown on sanctuary cities. a federal judge in chicago blocking attorney general jeff sessions with holding grant money for sanctuary cities as the entire state of california is on cusp of becoming a sanctuary state. jordan sekulow, american center for law and justice executive director. if california is sanctuary state, aren't legal immigrants and all americans at risk of being unsafe? >> yes. i mean the issue here is obviously, if you take the, what the judge decided here, it is narrower, a little bit of -- he
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says congress has to authorize this. congress authorized a clear law going back to the 1950s who is legal or not. don't take congress's word. the constitution delegates the power to congress. states have no roles, and cities have no roles. if you're on the left, and you argued against arizona enforcing any immigration laws through its local police, laws already exist on the books and you won, now you're saying, the federal government can't authorize laws on the books, because congress has to act again. this is not a gray area. if something is illegal, there is clause in the constitution for the president called take-care clause. take care that the laws are faithfully executed. that did why we have an executive branch to execute the laws, put them into force. we've seen this with the travel pause or ban if you like it, to call it that. it makes it ways through the courts and becomes less partisan as you get up through the courts. it may ultimately be decided by
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supreme court of the united states. notice congress was not filing a lawsuit here saying you don't have authority to do this. lauren: what is the end goal here for democrats? >> i think the end goal as you try to undermine any immigration enforcement by the president of the united states and executive branch. you take that power away as much as possible. lauren: here is another important topic, "dreamers" are suing president trump, after he announced an end to the daca program which protects 800,000 kids who were brought here illegally, protect them from being deported. my question, jordan, why are think so worried? >> well i think, part of it is, we don't like acknowledging that the president did not just end this program unilaterally. he gave six months to reapply, allows two more years and congress get this my desk, sign it into law. i will give you a safety, a safe way to be here. we told everyone as illegal
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organization way back when president obama was doing this, no good attorney should tell anybody who is here illegally to take advantage of this, give the federal government your information and rely on executive order. it is bad legal advise because as the obama administration acknowledged in federal court, when they were trying to defend the deferred action for parents of americans, they lost that. they even said that there is no legal right, you can't, there is nothing to enforce here. it is completely up to the president of the united states. this is another one of those issues. you will get political decisions from lower court judges. may ultimately be decided by supreme court of the united states. very clear-cut though. lauren: now basically the president is ahead of schedule, right? he is already talking with democrats. isn't that encouraging to get something done in congress to protect "dreamers"? are you encouraged he is talking to democrats? >> i do. i think the idea he is being, that nancy pelosi getting protested and that the fact that
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they will sit down talk about, this is one of those issues where the policy is not the big problem. it is just how to put it into law. if you actually care about these people, and i think many of us on the conservative legal world we would be fine if going through, put it on president's desk, legalize the people in appropriate manner as lawful permanent residents with pathway to citizenship. that is the best way to give these folks legal rights in the united states. not treat them like political, like this political back and forth what they're caught up in unfortunately. lauren: or a bargaining chip. nancy pelosi in san francisco had to shut a press conference because "dreamers" were against what they were doing. >> they don't want legal status. they don't want this to be law. they want this continue to be a legal issue for groups like la raza, which are leftist organizations.
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they're getting a little nervous, wait if we do something it, would be president trump who would be first president since ronald reagan, so two republicans in 30 years in between or more, that would have done something to legalize people from, particularly predominantly latin american community, who would actually do something to give them legal rights. not bill clinton. not barack obama, not president bush. but would be president trump. that scares those activists. lauren: got to leave it there, jordan. thank you so much. david: so for every move the president makes the mainstream media finds some reason to be outraged. what could they possibly find to criticize about this cute 11-year-old boy getting his dream of mowing the white house lawn? well you will not believe the answer. they found something. that's next. at baird, we approach your wealth management strategy the same way to create a financial plan built to last from generation to generation.
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