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sounding off on the white house's latest response to this dramatic diplomatic victory an historic turning point after the 20 years and four administrations trying to get china to lean on north korea. the commander-in-chief is getting the job done. how is kim jong-un going to respond? plus puerto rico still in the dark. president trump approving a disaster declaration as the lights remain out on the entire island. a live report from san one coming straight ahead. melissa: the dow seven-day winning streak coming to a end. nicole, what happened? i can't say record close. i can say intraday record. we saw some financial jitters.
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we talk about the rate hike at end of the year. names like proctor & gamble and apple i will get to right now weighed on the dow jones industrial average. the dow finished near the session lows. taking a look at apple, down 1.7% today. closed at 153.39, down 3 1/2% for the week. there are concerns about the watch, connectivity, about making phone calls which is one of the big things accessing data. they themselves says there is a glitch and working on it. how many preorders for the iphone 8? there are concerns that they may wait for the 10. will there be lines tomorrow at stores? we're watching those defense stocks. you twice hit it at the top of the show, all about north korea. president trump, noted, china and praised china for cutting north korea off financially. now saying at home signing an executive order to do much of the same to target individuals or companies or financial institutions that do business
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with north korea. defense stocks moving to all-time highs. looking at boeing, lockheed martin, raytheon, all-time highs. back to you. melissa: nicole, thank you. david: china finally caving to pressure from the trump administration. here's the president. >> china, their central bank has told their other banks, that is a massive banking system, to immediately stop doing business with north korea. david: let's bring in today's panel. scott martin from kingsview asset management, and guy benson, townhall.com, both fox news contributors. guy, this is tremendous news, tremendous in a big sense. we'll see how it all plays out. this is essentially a financial embargo of a country. that is actually an act of war, an embarring poe although technically we're still at war with north korea. that never ended in the '50s. this is significant. what made china blink? >> i think part of it has to be
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the leadership of the president and the tone he has taken which has caused a lot of hand-wringing in washington but getting a lot of people's attention. in the past where u.s. presidents said we might do this or could do that, the north koreans and other important players in the milieu, yeah that is empty talk. there is at least talk about how empty that talk is with president trump, which may have spurred some of this. this is clearly type of movement that u.s. foreign policy experts and diplomats have been trying to get, trying to achieve for many, many years. the caveat always has to be put in when it comes to china and north korea, a heavy dose of skepticism and circumspection is in order because -- david: because, quickly. we're running out of time. >> because of the history here and history of china, making some moves and sometime backtracking but on its face it is big news. david: scott, i'm looking at the executive order though. it is very specific.
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this is very different from anything ordered concerning north korea in the past. it really does differentiate. it shows why this thing was taken so seriously by the chinese. but sometimes what is good for our national interests or international interests not good for the markets. you see there was not a big selloff at end of the day, down 53 points. the market didn't take it well. >> david, you're right, longer term what is good for the nation's interests and stock market as interests. you mentioned this could work out a lot of different ways and a there is a lot of wrinkling that will go on. look at the market last 45 days since north korea acting up sending missiles over japan and the market is flat or down. the tone i agree than it has been in previous administrations which is encouraging. still last a lot of impact on the market short term. melissa: the white house stepping up pressure on gop
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lawmakers to support a last-ditch effort to repeal and replace obamacare. fox news's mike emanuel is live in d.c. with latest. mike? >> good afternoon, melissa. the message in the white house to republicans it is time to keep the promise they made to the american people for seven years to get rid of obamacare. >> the question people ought to ask is, who do you think will be more responsive to the health care needs in your community? your governor and your state legislature, or a congressman and a president in a far off nation's capitol? this is the concept of federalism upon which our constitution was framed. reporter: there are a number of gop senators to watch, whether they are a yes or no, the first three are ones that defeated health care reform in july, mccain, collins and murkowski. one senate republican had this message for the undecideds. >> there is no free lunch and
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you're not going to get one with this bill. there are tradeoffs but if your litmus test, as is mine, is it better than the affordable care act? clearly the answer is yes. reporter: conversations continue but sources on capitol hill suggest we won't know for sure if they have 50 votes until early next week. on the other side democrats are attacking this plan for variety of reasons. one says it reflects misplaced priorities. >> as the president and many of my republican colleagues want to substantially increase military spending, they want to throw 32 million americans off of the health insurance they currently have because supposedly they are worried about the budget deficit. reporter: sanders of course wants to go left of obamacare, to a medicare for all type plan. melissa. melissa: mike, all right, thank you. we'll go back to our panel. guy, it is not perfect obviously
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but it is a step in the right direction. better is better, no? >> i would agree. i just want to respond quickly to that sound bite there. melissa: please do. it was really something. >> so he is very upset that the republican plan would throw 32 million people off their plans which is not true. that is a gross distortion based on cbo stuff that we could get into if we had more time but the bernie sanders single-payer plan he put out would throw 156 million people off their plans, put them into a government plan like the va with no way of paying for it. $32 trillion over 10 years. it take as real set to attack republicans for throwing people off of their plans when your plan would do that for multiple, you know, orders of magnitude more americans. that is, that is breathtaking. melissa: scott, i don't know how you will follow that, my friend. go ahead. give it a shot? >> gosh,.
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melissa: that said it all. >> it takes a lost onions to do that, that is what bernie sanders does. he goes out to make history -- history on nicks. people trust him. melissa: guy, should they go for it? should we get it? is it a step in the right direction? >> my understanding they're sitting 48, 49 yes votes at this point in the senate. rand paul sounding like pro-chuck schumer no. susan collins in that camp. comes down to murkowski and mccain. i don't love the plan. there are a little time to get the tweaks. >> we have focus on tax reform. we have to focus on tax reform. a lot more bipartisan agreement there. get that done first. health care after that. melissa: gentlemen, you're both brilliant. david: they are brilliant. i think mccain will come over. i think lindsey graham will talk him into it. that is my opinion. melissa: you're on the record now. david: i am on the record.
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that is scary. financial embargo against a nuclear north korea. the white house just announcing punishing new actions against the rogue regime unlike anything we've seen before. how president trump is hitting kim jong-un where it hurts most. melissa: new timeline on tax reform but will dysfunction in the nation's capitol come between you and your tax cut? no! karl rove is putting the spotlight on republicans who might be to blame for this. you each drive a ford pickup right?
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a very important executive order, blake. >> really the message with this one, david, it is either business with us or it's business with them, no middle ground pick, choose. that is the threat of this executive order regarding north korea that president trump signed earlier today as he met with the leaders of japan and south korea in a meetings on the sidelines of the united nations. this executive order really works twofold. first it targets individuals or entities that engage in certain kinds of trade with the rogue nation along with financial institutions who facilitate that cash flow. >> foreign banks will face a clear choice, do business with the united states, or facilitate trade with the lawless regime in north korea. reporter: the president also revealed that china's central bank has decided to lock out new north korean customers. however the treasury secretary, steve mnuchin, insisted that the
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new executive order is not geared largely toward china. >> this action is directed at everyone. it is in no way specifically directed at china. this is targeted at north korea, and anybody that wants to trade or do business with them. reporter: the president is still leaving open the avenue of dialogue, potential dialogue with north korea. when he was asked about it earlier today he shrugged it off a bit but why not. back to you. david: we'll go for it. if that works. blake, thank you. melissa. melissa: some americans are lashing out at president trump about his handling of north korea and everything else by the way, some foreign leaders are praising him. >> show my appreciation to president trump. i like to say korea will closely coordinate with the united states on this matter. >> thanks to donald's leadership we have a summit meeting between japan, u.s. and korea.
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this meeting is indeed quite a significant. i would like to thank donald's leadership. melissa: here now to react, karl rove, former deputy chief of staff under president george w. bush. he is also a fox news contributor. karl, welcome. so it was very surprising, interesting it me to watch, you know, newscasters and political commentators around the country talk about president trump's speech and say he was doing name-calling, he was threatening them with obliteration. then you hear reaction from others outside the u.s. who need help against north korea and they're praising him. what do you make of that? >> well look, the president's speech was trumpian when it came to blustering but the speech was pretty darn good and foreign leaders heard him call the leader of north korea "rocket man" but they also heard him lay out a deliberate, strong, agenda for america's foreign policy and to challenge them on important issues. and look, this issue, that the
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action i bet chinese government directed to the central bank to open no further new accounts with the north koreans was a, was a really important move, because what it said, was, we want to get out in front of the president. we hear that trump is going to come with strong new sanctions on north korea, not sanctions on people doing business with north korea, but sanctions on people doing business with north korea, whether they are financial firms or trading firms. they wanted to get out in front of that take a little bit of steam out of it. can't open new accounts. you watch them, they will try to keep the existing financial relationships in place and keep loans, rolling them over and over. this is the start of a process getting the chinese to back off further, not the end of it. melissa: only a start, but, karl, david and i were pouring through the specific details of the sanctions, it is more than an embargo. it is really tough.
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the article you wrote 30 republicans holding up tax reform. they threaten to side with democrats to block the gop majority. you wrote that came out. since then the freedom caucus members are firing back at you in a new article. they say, karl rove, stop blaming us for dysfunction in congress. what do you have to say about their response? >> good. just stir it up. look, that was a piece appeared in the "washington examiner," signed by four members of the freedom caucus, saying don't blame us for dysfunction. remember what my argument was. my argument was the freedom caucus said, 30 members, if you don't show us the tax bill, if we don't approve of the tax bill in advance, we'll not vote for the republican budget resolution that would allow it to be passed by 51 votes in the senate, as well as to allow the rest of the budget process going forward. they said stop blaming us for dysfunction. here in fact they said this, don't blame us for the leadership of, for being
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dysfunctional and bucking the leadership. that is not what we're doing. well, you know what? the same day "the wall street journal" had a piece in it signed by the chairman and former chairman of the house freedom caucus, who admitted they were doing exactly i said they were doing. they are holding back their votes on budget resolution until they approve taxes. jim jordan and mark meadows, house freedom caucus will gladly start process for voting for budget red solution if we're confident that the tax plan will cut taxes. you need to tell us what personal rates are, corporate rates, repatriation rate, how you treat small business. we get to see the plan in advance and decide whether or not it actually is what we want before we vote for the budget resolution. show us a tax plan and we will gladly vote to pass a budget. so they're doing exactly what i said they were doing, we'll with hold our votes from voting for the republican budget resolution unless and until you let us have veto power over the tax bill.
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melissa: yeah. >> pass the budget resolution. if you don't like the tax bill. vote against it. don't leverage everybody else. melissa: karl, i always get nervous when you get your ouija board out. i'm terrified of what is going on. you accuse them of same old shenanigans in washington what everyone is frustrated with, this idea, congress is constantly stumbling and bumbling, befuddled by problems they created. >> this is the second time this year we've seen this they threatened to vote against the health care reform bill in the house, repealing and replacing obamacare unless they got to approve every detail. fine. don't hold up the action. let the action go forward. vote for the budget resolution so congress can function. if you don't like the tax cut bill voight against it and explain why. melissa: karl, don't use your ouija board ever on me. >> it's a whiteboard. a ouija board --
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melissa: i'm teasing you. thank you for coming on. that is not a ouija board. i'm sorry. i was just teasing. david: spotlight on the world stage. melissa: i love karl. david: we're awaiting u.n. ambassador nikki haley. she is expected to take the stage any moment. a very big day for her. we'll take you there live as soon as it happens. new developments in obama administration unmasking a disturbing number of americans who might have been at risk. jordan sekulow, american center for law and justice executive center is all over this. he is sounding off here next. ♪ (beeping) we're on to you, diabetes. time's up, insufficient prenatal care. and administrative paperwork, your days of drowning people are numbered. same goes for you, budget overruns. and rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. we're coming for you too.
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does this shore up president trump's conviction that the previous administration was actively trying to subvert the campaign and transition team of the trump administration? this is jordan sekulow, american center for law and justice executive director. 270 unmaskings in 2016, most of them during the final months of the obama administration. looks like the deep state to me. does seem to shore up the president's contention there was surveillance against the trump campaign. >> absolutely. we know from susan rice, she admitted it to some extent but this goes into greater details. samantha power top role was amount ambassador to the united nation. she did serve on national security council so those on the left don't think we forgot that. she had the ability to request unmasking but as you said, people in her situation like her, ambassador on the national security council, this is more than double, more than triple, they are used to do a few on average requests for unmasking.
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260, that is more than one every calendar working day. but most of these came david in the final few months of the obama administration. what time was that? that was the time that the trump team was transitioning from winning the presidential campaign to becoming president of the united states and establishing a government. david: the thing about samantha power, she is a political animal. i hope you don't mind if i use that, i say that about people on the right as well, she's a very active political player but effected what is known as the deep state. people who are career intelligence people, people like jim clapper by the way, who back in march was refuting what president trump was saying about surveillance, but he had to correct that last night based on this reporting from fox news. let's play two clips, one from march, and then from last night of jim clapper, former head of national intel. >> for the part of the national security apparatus that i
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oversaw as dni, there was no such wiretap activity founded against the president, president-elect at time or as a candidate or against his campaign. fisas are classified. even if i knew something about it i couldn't and i don't. david: but he did, that's the point. he did in march. last night he said something very different. jordan. >> yes. no, i mean what we've got is a situation where you have the obama administration officials, who have completely targeted this, the trump team and we know that through what has come out about paul manafort as well, which may have included, may have included conversations with the president-elect, president trump and even president of the united states. now, this unmasking, remember, ultimately led to a flood of leaks. now those kind of stop, remember these people are no longer in those positions of power. whether or not it was susan
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rice, i don't suspect it was here, or samantha power actually doing the leak, they were providing information to the deep state, david, so it was available. it was being passed around to be easily leaked to media. remember the barrage of leaks that the trump administration faced in its first weeks of office. david: most of it clearly from the people left over from the obama administration. >> absolutely. david: we have just about 30 seconds left but the heart of the matter is this. you can't have u.s. intel agencies used for the political purposes, the partisan political purposes of any administration. that is what nixon did. one of the things they brought up charges of impeachment on him about. you just can't allow that to happen. it seems that was happening at the end of the obama administration. >> there was completely, david, targeted to undermined the trump administration. i think they were successful in the early days with resignations of trump officials they didn't like. they were able to leak
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information about them and now we're finding out more and more it may be that the president was correct. i'm so sick and tired of people on the left, said it wasn't exactly him wiretapped or maybe not wiretapped, but electronic surveillance of his former campaign chairman, who was of course having conversations with him and likely have conversations with -- david: trump said i was wiretapped, trump tower was wiretapped. in fact this guy, manafort was living in the trump tower at the time. >> yeah. david: if anything it is pointing to the president having been correct back in march. we'll have to see how -- very worrisome. a lot of this stuff is very concerning. i'm glad you're on it as well. >> dangerous. david: jordan, glad you're on it. melissa. melissa: breaking news, the fiance of former patriot star and convict aaron hernandez is suing the patriots and nfl, claiming that hernandez killed himself as a result of severe cte from his football career. cte is a progressive
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degenerative disease of the brain, which is found in people with a history of repetitive brain trauma, including football players. the lawsuit claims that the league and the team were aware of the link between suicide and the disease and they failed to share that information with hernandez. david: interesting bank shot. that will be difficult to make. more reasons we need that tax cut. merit pay and annual bonuses are projected to drop to 12.5% of a company's payroll budget in 2018. this according to a new survey by human resources consultant syaon hewitt. that is lowest in five years. the salaries raises are expected toking meager, with companies budgeting 3% for raise increases. we need more tax cuts. melissa: we need juice in the economy. representing the u.s. on the world stage. ambassador nikki haley expected to speak any minute in new york
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to address the new sanctions against north korea. we'll take you there live as soon as it happens. david: meeting of the mind. president trump and world leaders making tough decisions on the growing threat from north korea. more details. breaking news coming up. hey hun, huh! we gotta go. come on. ♪ "grandma! grandpa!" ♪ thanks mom. here we are. look, right up to here. principal. we can help you plan for that. and life's beautiful moments.ns get between you flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. it helps block 6 key inflammatory substances
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>> the brutal north korean regime does not respect its own citizens or the sovereignty of other nations. a complete denuclearization of north korea that we seek. our alliance with south korea and japan has never been stronger than it is today. we share a commitment to creating a world where strong and independent nations honor their people and promote peace. melissa: president trump today meeting with the leader of south korea as well as japan, expressing our commitment to working with one another to denuclearize north korea. at any moment we're expecting ambassador nikki haley to make remarks after the united states imposed new sanctions, very tough sanctions on north korea. here is jesse jane duff, retired marine gunnery sergeant. thank you so much for joining us. a lot of action today. i mean if you just look at details, dave and were pouring through details of those
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sanctions, it's tough. it is an embargo. if anyone who does business with anyone who does business with north korea. >> yes. melissa: they will stop and take anything. what do you think? >> amen. it is about time. the u.n. sanctions were not strung november. they allowed them to have enough oil they had in the last 12 months. it was basically business as usual. i stated we have to put sanctions against china. china will not solve this but let's solve it for them. the u.s. treasury did a hard look at bank of china, found out they were laundering money with north korea and doing shady business deals. essentially they declared this was illegal under our own patriot act. we basically said, you don't do business with us or you will do business with them? which one is it going to be. china had a wake-up call, this could collapse their banking system if we shut them down. melissa: we are looking at nikki haley right now take to the podium. let's go and listen in. >> a productive and strong week
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at the u.n. the united states had a very strong presence with the president and vice president. many members of the national security team and economic team. the united states was out in full force and i think the u.n. felt it but i think it was extremely. look at those at beginning of the week. we started with u.n. reform. president and secretary-general rolling out massive reforms for the u.n. when was extraordinary, 130 countries signed on to the reforms, that was 2/3 of the general assembly which is who will vote on this at the end. so that was a great start to the week. then you saw the president's address to the general assembly. i think it showed the strength of the united states but also asked the world to come together. it asked all countries to come together as we fight these rogue regimes, mainly north korea and iran. what you saw a lot of countries responded. they were very positive to the speech.
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they appreciated how blunt and honest he was. how straightforward he was and how refreshing it was, as they heard him speak. today we met with our allies, japan and south korea. obviously a lot to talk about with north korea. assured with japan and south korea, and they talked about strategies going forward for north korea. on iran, that was a topic of conversation throughout the week. i think everyone was talking about the destable aiding activities that they continue to do throughout the middle east. whether it is in syria, iraq, lebanon, yemen. and the list goes on. so it is something we will continue to talk about and continue to move forward to make sure that we're stopping any of their reckless behavior as well. we also co-hosted a meeting with secretary boris johnson as well as the dutch foreign minister on
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human rights reform. we really talked about the fact that it needed to be representative of its name. we have a lot of bad actors on that counsel. both president and vice president spoke about it in their speeches, the need to see better quality countries that are on that council in order for it to be effective. obviously for the united states to stay on it. if we don't see changes in the human rights council we'll continue to advocate for human rights but we'll do it on our own if we have to. the vice president attended security council meeting yesterday on peacekeeping reform. we have made great progress this past several months in terms of reforming peacekeeping, so that it is actually going towards a political solution, it is transparent, it is accountable. but we're also giving the troops the equipment they need and the ability to have be trained in order to do their jobs. we're seeing smarter peacekeeping. i think that came together in the peacekeeping reform vote we
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had yesterday. one of the topics that everyone had to talk about this week, all had opinion on was burma. as we're dealing with the crisis in burma, we're seeing how much migration has taken place from the rohingas are going out of burl ma and they're concerned that the military continues to be aggressive and the government continues in denial. you will see the international community get active on that going forward. the security council took a great step forward. it was a measure the international community had been working on a long time. we certainly worked with our british friends on it, and that was isis accountability in iraq. if you look at the fact that there are massive mass graves. there are all types of terrible conducts to women and girls in those areas, whether what
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happened with the yazidis or the christians or sunni and shia muslims, what we now have is a part of the u.n. body that will be able to go in there and actually collect evidence and make sure it can be used in trials so the victims finally have their say and get their day in court. so or at least their families do, if they have lost loved ones. that was a big day for the security council today. with that there was obviously a lot more. i think the president met with multiple countries. there were lots of bilats. there was lots of talks and planning and productivity. over all we can say it was a solid week at the u.n. this week. it was highly successful. with that i will answer any of your questions, yes. >> thank you very much. why do you expect this latest round of sanctions will not work when an array of sanctions fade in the past against north korea. >> in reference to what secretary mnuchin talked about, this is pretty amazing because when you look at the sanctions we have in place, north korea is
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already feeling it. you can hear of lines gas stations they have. the fact they're having severe reductions in revenues, that the sanctions are working. what this does take it a step further. this says anyone that deals with north korea, any financial institution, that deals with north korea is going to be punished. that is important. like secretary mnuchin said, if you will support north korea, you have to be prepared to be sanctioned as well. >> you said the sanctions are working but north korea has not stopped the provocations. do you these sanctions will get north korea -- >> we always knew the sanctions may not work. what the goal of sanctions was always intended to be to cut revenue, do less of their reckless behavior, if they don't have funding for nuclear production and they can do less of it. that is goal of sanctions. that doesn't mean it will change kim's attitude or belief what he
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wants to do but it will slow down production of the nuclear process going forward, yes. >> ambassador, thank you. when the president had spoken in his speech about totally destroying north korea, if forced to defend ourselves or our allies, what exactly did he mean? under what circumstances would he consider totally destroying north korea. >> that is just common sense. if you look at it, we have said multiple times the president said it, members of his team said it, we don't want war. that is the last thing anyone wants. we don't want loss of life. that is the last thing anyone wants but at same time we're not going to run scared. if for any reason north korea attacks the united states or our allies, the u.s. will respond, period. that is what is going to happen. what you're seeing now, we continue to go through diplomatic measures. we continue to exhaust everything we have. the key right now, other countries actually support the sanctions and follow through with them. they also continue to isolate
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north korea. until we can get them to come to the negotiating table. until then, that is just the reality. if they were to strike the united states, of course we would have to respond back. >> to clarify you're specifically saying that is if north korea attacks first? >> i mean we can't play out scenarios what will happen but obviously would take something very serious for the president to make a decision to do something back. there is a lot of things between where we are now and that situation that can be done. there are a lot of military options that can be done. the president will not spell out specifically what he will do and where he will do it. there are many options he discussed with his national security team. should north korea do anything irresponsible or reckless that he has to choose pro. >> ambassador thank you, a quick question on sanctions with north korea and quick question
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on iran. the administration said this was not aimed at china. but you heard the president today china told its central bank not to do business with north korea. secretary mnuchin said he called the chinese, so how is this not -- especially you talked about how china is really the main financial backer of north korea. how can this not really be directed at china? then on iran, is there a way to talk about, to ramp up pressure what you were talking about iran's destablizing activities throughout the middle east with a lot of your allies agree on without violating the agreement per se as secretary tillerson said. is there a way to get allies to rally around more terrorism types and other sanctions while keeping the, you know, nuclear provisions in place. >> first of all with the sanctions on north korea, it only impacts those that continue to do business with north korea. so, if china does business with north korea, yes, it will impact
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them. if there are countries in africa that do business with north korea, it will impact them. really depends on countries that choose to continue to support north korea over the rest of the world that is asking them not to. in reference to iran, you have a couple of processes that take place. on october 15th, the president has the decision to make on whether to certify or decertify. and that is u.s. law. that has nothing to do with the jcpoa or the iran deal. that is u.s. law. u.s. law requires the president every 90 days to decide whether iran deal and other elements of the u.n. resolution, which would include ballistic missile testing. which would include arms smuggling, and support of terrorism if asks the president to look at all those things. if you think the deal is in the best interests of the united states, then he certifies. if he thinks that the deal is,
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that the situation is not in the best interests of the american public, then he doesn't certify. at that point it goes to congress. and he works with congress on how to reshape the situation. but the. the iran deal and u.s. law are two different things. >> he could decertify without getting out of the deal? >> that's right. i tell you from a u.n. perspective, what you will hear us very vocal on, is the fact that 2331 the resolution that was in place, what we saw it basically wrapped in with the nuclear deal. it said, if iran did any of these things, it would be in violation. since then the secretary-general has come out with a report that said they have violated all of those things. their support for terrorism are, their arms smuggling, the idea they continue to do ballistic
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missile testing. they need to be called out for that. that is something you see us do as we go forward in the united nations. to make sure we know that because they did this nuclear deal it doesn't give them a pass on all the other things they're doing wrong. yes? >> madam ambassador, you said in your opening remarks, one of the topics people were talking about this week was burma. the president gave a 4600 word address to the global body and didn't mention burma or myanmar at all. did you have any input into the speech or were you disappointed that burma was not mentioned in the speech. >> he was very concerned about burma. he asked the national security team. why the vice president speak about it in his speech and why the vice president has and he has been involved in the decision making. he like every other leader we're all scratching our heads over burma. all this happened in three weeks. you have almost half a million people who have left and the
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tragedies and, the abuse that has happened there is something that a lot of us can't stomach. so, no, it is mainly, if you listen to all the leaders, everybody is just trying to figure out who can move the officials in burma and where to go. so -- >> [inaudible] hasn't spoke publicly about it. >> he is very concerned about burma. i did talk with the vice president bit quite a bit. that is why he was very passionate about it. really he was speaking because the president asked him to. >> did you or the president -- spoken directly with -- [inaudible] or anybody in the administration talk to her about what is happening and would you press her publicly to do more in her role? >> not only we pressed her but we pressed the military. we had go things happening. secretary tillerson called her and discussed the situation with her. general dunford is calling the head of the military to say look, we had a relationship with you. this can not continue and we need to know what you're going
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to do about it. yes? >> madam ambassador, you've been very vocal on the shortcomings of the iran deal and iran's behavior. perhaps beyond the strict confines of your job here. where does that come from? are you, your own, sort of direct opinion have hearing about iranian behavior here? or through conversations with the president, or just talk a little bit about that? >> i had conversations with the president. he was very concerned about iran. he was very concerned about the deal. so i went and, i went to learn about it and find out from the iaea, to look at the resolution, to look at the violations. so it was just digging deep on the situation we found. that is why i gave the speech on the scenario that the president is faced with on decisions to be made. this situation, it is not an
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easy situation by any means. you look at north korea. you look at the fact for 25 years, we were looking at bad deal after bad deal after bad deal and broken problem miss, broken promise, broken promise. here we are again. we don't want to be dealing with the next north korea. that is why he is taking it so seriously and why we need to look at every aspect of this to make sure it is truly in the best interests of the american public. david: that of course is nikki haley, our ambassador to the united nations. a lot of activity there. from that venue that the president announced the executive order with very strict, almost embargo-like sanctions against north korea. after the chinese told us they will stop their banks from anymore banking activity with north korea. this could be really crippling. with us is gunny jesse jane duff, and carl higby, former may have very seal and trump 2020 advisory board member. carl, let me talk about the
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connection between north korea and iran. both are coming up in what we just heard from nikki haley. they're connected. yes, iran may have been adhering to the specifics of the iranian deal that is supposed to stop them from nuclear research but they have been helping the north koreans. they don't need to do research on nukes in iran because they can do it in north korea right now. >> yeah. let me first cover up my official duties with americorps i was recently appointed to on a personal level. i think the approach the president trump is taking at the u.n. is unprecedented at least in the last 25, 30 years, it is totally new approach we're taking to the world and any potential enemies of america because i can tell you receipt now that north korea has never seen anybody talk back to them in these type of strong terms, especially iran and any other foe we possibly have. i'm looking forward to it. i look back on history. when has appeasement of these radical nations ever worked out in favor of everyone.
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david: right. gunny duff, we used to talk about an access of evil. there is clearly axis right now between iran and north korea. they are helping each other. moneywise, iran has the money. north korea as technology. together they are very dangerous duo. i think the trump administration is trying to split the relationship right down the middle. >> of course, north korea is getting 2 to $3 billion a year from iran. they have basically merchandised all of their warfare. they provided chemical weapons. weapons of mass destruction to syria. all backed by iranians. they even provided reactor to syria, that israelis destroyed in 2007. they're very aggressive with their nuclear technology. with that 2 to $3 billion a year, coming from iran, this has a direct impact on why these sanctions with the united states have not been working. this is the first step with the bank of china. david: carl, i got to ask, what
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happens if north korea, i think leader of north korea is unhinged a bit, or totally unaware what is considered normal in the world. what if he continues to test these missiles, do we start shooting them down? >> well, david i think the president made it very, very clear what is happening right now. he says, if you leave us no options, we'll be forced to wipe you off the face of the earth. what he means by that we'll not tolerate this junk. david: but would the first salvo on our part shooting down a missile? >> that would be the first step i would take. david: carl, i have to ask you related to your americorps percent sown n you're involved in efforts in texas and florida but now puerto rico. texas and florida are vibrant state economieses. puerico is basically bankrupt. we will have bail them out in more direct fashion, are we? >> we have americorps members
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standing by. they have entire island without power saying months won't come back. they don't have the resources to sustain this. unfortunately american taxpayers will have a huge bill. but they are a u.s. territory. we have to back them up. david: do we have fund. we're spending 100 billion in texas and lord knows in florida. bailout in puerto rico, we know how bad the island was hit but it was completely devastated. >> before and after were insane. trees stripped of leaves. this is american territory. we have american citizens down there. this is american territory. we will find money and fix that, jesse jane duff and carl higbie. a monumental moment in our history. medical list. melissa: turns out dictators don't pay for marking. north korea's latest jab, and how much it is costing the united states.
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melissa: acting above the law, a new report founds that north korea owes new york city more than more than just a headache. david: owes the big apple in guess what? unpaid parking tickets. north korea's not the only offender, by the way. syria, iran, russia, and china together owe more than $1 million in unpaid fines collectively. it's just awful. melissa: there should be some way that they can get that money back, you know? when they come into town all the time for the un and everything else, you know? everyone's -- david: well, our current mayor of new york de blasio who we are both a huge fan of, he probably would end up subsidizing their parking tickets even more than he already has. i mean, he's been a big fan in
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the past of some elements of these regimes anyway. it's a great place to visit. just thank heavens that you don't have to live here like melissa. melissa: here comes risk and reward right now. trump: rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> that borders on the threat of committing a war crime. >> the united states has had representatives working on this problem for more than 25 years, they've done anything nog. that's why we're in the problem we're in today. >> why does he have to be so provocative all the time? trump: today i'm announcing a new executive order i just signed that significantly expands our authorities to target individuals, companies, and national institutions that finance and facilitate trade with
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