business standards change. >> popular carole king album name but terrible name for a bag maker. stuart: sharp and to the point like this program. our time is up. neil cavuto, sir, it is yours. neil: you know there is a coach guy here at the street corner, sells coach bags for like $10. stuart: yes. okay. neil: they're not real, are they? stuart: you're asking me? neil: if you could get away with giving knock off coach bags for 10 bucks, you would? stuart: no. neil: i bought two. thanks, guys, very, very much. we're following the president of the united states, making the tax pitch as division within the republican party is growing. a lot has to do with treatment of senator bob corker and back and forth those two are having. regardless how you feel about senator corker or the president, here is business of the fear they think it will get in way of

tax cuts getting done. adam shapiro at white house. they do beg to differ? reporter: they do beg to differ. all quiet on front of battle between senator corker and president trump. let's get into where we're going and how senator corker is reacting. we have a fresh article on foxbusiness.com that addresses these issues. first the president will speak in harrisburg, pennsylvania, earlier this evening about tax reform on the middle class. he will address truckers. it is about tax reform. here are tweets president issued in anticipation of that speech. stock market increased $5.2 billion. lowest unemployment in 16 years. and this is the second tweet, if congress gives us massive tax cuts and reform i'm asking for, those numbers will grow by leaps and bounds. make america great again. the president went on in another tweet saying the democrats want massive tax increases and soft

crime-producing borders. the republicans want biggest tax cut in history and the wall. republicans on the hill, some who have not lined up behind the president. senator bob corker raised issues with tax reform. here is what speaker of the house paul ryan said about unifying republicans moving forward with tax reform? >> free country. people can do what they want to do. i think best thing for the republican party to stay upfied and focus on the shared agenda. best way to help people and advance our principles we say unified and advance this agenda we're working on like tax reform. reporter: regards the battle between the president and bob corker yesterday, he said he did not think bob corker would not stand in the way of tax reform, and even senator corker said he would not support tax reform that would add to the national deficit and national debt, he has done a texas sidestep, he is open to different measures of economy, which would essentially

close $1.5 trillion of senate version of budget resolution would be allow to be added to the national debt. he would open to be new measures close that at least on paper. back to you. neil: adam, when you talk to people there even off the record, if they had their druthers i can't imagine they would not prefer the president not have been dragged into a twitter fight with a united states senator, of either party, given what is at stake here? reporter: what is at stake is crucial. you bring up a good point. on the hill they would rather this didn't happen and advisors to the president would tell you they rather it didn't happen. the president has incredibly strong support among people he will be addressing in harrisburg. they want change and tax reform and want the way president outlined it during the campaign. so president trump struck to that. president trump talking to the base. people on the hill, they're just talking. neil: adam, thank you very, very

much. to that issue, whether the president could be the one getting in the way of his own tax reform goal, former bush 43 deputy assistant, brad blakeman, democratic strategist jehmu greene. brad, my view on this, not that it matters, the president hurts his cause when he steps on it, gets into a fight with a republican senator. he doesn't need that right now? >> he certainly does not. this shouldn't be about personality. this has to be about policy and it is good policy look at markets, neil, on anticipation of bringing real and meaningful tax reform both to individuals and to corporations? it is going to unleash the power of the individual in our country. it is not how good wall street is doing, which is doing great. it is how good main street will do. i believe senator corker, other republicans may disagree with president's personality will join the president on policy because it makes sense not only for their home states but for the country. neil: jehmu, what is the read

democrats have on this? some were embrazing tax reform or tax cuts. it is not so much reform as it is tax cuts. they were open to corporate tax cuts, maybe not degree president president wants to cut them but can you envision democratic votes? >> i think he will probably be able to get democratic votes for it, because that is what we should be doing as political leaders but really to your original question, kneel, i think the president is really stepping on his message. it is one of the reasons why he hasn't been able to have any significant legislative accomplishments, and perhaps, i'm starting to think from a conspiracy theory standpoint that this actually may now become a tactic. that the administration, the folks behind the scenes, gary cohn, secretary of treasury see president trump being able to get all of the oxygen out of the

room, distract, shiny objects. secretly crafting tax plans that are basically going to benefit trump millionaire and billionaire candidate. maybe -- neil: now you're being very, very jaded. brad, i will go another argument that kind of feeds off of that, the president doing by what he is doing, might be prefabbing toring in getting defeated on this, pre-blaming people for that, were it to happen. what do you think? >> i think at the end of the day, neil, november of next year, donald trump is not on the ballot. republicans are, entire lower house, a third of the senate. not a very good plan. i don't believe in conspiracy theories. what i believe in republicans have the opportunity to reach across the aisle with democrats to have meaningful tax reform. there is no doubt in my mind, this will be attractive for cooperation and compromise on democratic side. they should not dig their heels

in. reach across the aisle. republicans should do the same. reducing corporate burden on taxes i think something republicans and democrats agree, highest taxed corporate entity on the planet is not good for growth and continued prosperity for america. there is a lot of room here. i believe the president will get it done. i happen to believe democrats in the senate will find this attractive, like senator manchin. and i optimistic. neil: really those three, right? those who didn't sign on to the original democratic letter put out by chuck schumer, some 45 democrats, that not one penny go to the wealthy. so, jehmu, let me ask you about those three, including manchin, heitkamp of north dakota, donnelly in indiana, how likely is it, any one or all would vote for this, if no other reason pressure they feel in their own states, state has went overwhelmingly for donald trump? >> look, i don't want to be

cynical but i do think they will probably make their decision on how it is going to affect their re-election chances versus how it is actually going to affect their constituents, and a lot of these changes, at times, the constituents don't even really understand that the plan that we've seen so far does nothing for the bottom 35%. it is unclear what it does for the middle class. it is crystal clear what it does for the wealthiest amongst us. but i have to go to you, brad, you're a brilliant strategist, and you know that donald trump is going to be on the ballot. his name will not be on the ballot. his policies, his, you know whatever type of blustering he is going to be doing at that time. this is going to be a referendum on donald trump. if he is not able to get any sort of tax package through, like he wasn't able to get through with health care, what is he going to have to offer? i think democrats do have a

really good chance in 2018 and it will be because of donald trump. neil: brad, what do you think of that? it will be the president, success or failure that will gauge how people vote next year? >> i think, knowing this town as well as i do, it is law of the jungle here in washington. it is self-preservation. those people who are running, their names will be on ballot will do what in their selfish best interest in many cases. good news if they vote for health care, not only selfish interest, it will be in the national interest. it is a good thing to do whether republican or democrat to provide kind of help the average american needs in tax reform. neil: guys, i want to thank you both, very, very. did with very little bloodshed. that is always a positive development. meantime, the bob iger, runs disney, overseeing a aing bc, overseeing espn, is his reaction , sure sign of anything,

that he is running for something, president of united states? i'm not mickey mousing around with this.

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the ready. this is how smart they are, they i will immediately pointed out, kneel, we'll put flashing green arrow. not for a sale. just to let you know stocks hit intraday record. there you go. you're welcome, america. meantime they're still looking into who knew what when it came to harvey weinstein and his abuses but apparently a good many were keeping quite secret. lauren simonetti. on latest. hey, lauren. reporter: neil, this is now taking down movie mogul harvey weinstein and engulfing other hollywood a lizzers. ben affleck got to know weinstein on "goodwill hunting," released a statement that the allegations make him sick. rose mcgowan called him a liar. he told her about weinstein's behavior, at the time i told

weinstein to stop doing that. three charges with rape. eight settlements with women. "tmz," reported that weinstein jetted off to europe for sex rehab. here at home, his former company, weinstein company feeling heat in his absence. reportedly a major film financeer, aei and known for the butler and "hacksaw ridge," pulled plug on $45 million loan. his wife 10 years, georgina chapman calling it quits, her heart breaks for all the women that suffered tremendous pain. they have two children together. neil. neil: lauren simonetti, thank you very, very much. meanwhile disney questioning, handling of the whole jemele hill situation, suspension for two weeks, don't know whether paid or unpaid. in eyes of many deemed a slap on the wrist. she said horrendous things about president trump a few weeks

back, didn't get any punishment, save a. what dowhat do you think means? >> this peculiar move, jemele hill is driving consumers away from the very product her company is trying to push. the company should have come out more strongly, given her a longer suspension. if you go on air, politics is not that important to follow, don't keep up with the markets i imagine there would be consequences you as well. that is the same concept. she is deliberately driving consumers from the product her can is promoting. it is strange to suspend her now, who is she pleasing? left are angry, they stood by her, those on the right, happy she is suspended, made up by espn a a long time ago and libel bias there are putting out.

conservative people like curt schilling were fired moment they put out conservative beliefs. american people are realizing they're not on our side with this issue. they're much more on the side of president trump and those supporting the flag and the national anthem. neil: i think in any venue where you go after the people who feed and support you, your advertisers, without, you know, good reason here. that is a slippery slope. so whatever my viewpoints on politics or markets, to your example there, i cross another level when i say, don't, don't honor our advertisers or boycott our advertisers, the lifeblood of any network or what have you. so, certainly the guy who runs the network, in this case, bob iger, to give a relatively, you know, muted punishment for that, makes me wonder what is going on there? there was a great deal of talk he might be entertaining a run for office some day, maybe even president some day. that might explain his rather

tepid response here, not to stir the pot by being so tame in his response, he might have stirred it anyway? >> exactly. look, if he had come out and strongly supported jemele hill and said, we'll stand by her, we believe in these comments, he would have kept happy the people already happy with jemele hill, those on the left but for him to come out, only people he is pleasing those on the right again who can't stand what is going on here. almost like too little to late if he is trying to please those on the right and crossing line for pleasing those on the left. if he is considering a political run, this feeds into narrative all these wealthy people seeing president's trump success getting elected, wait a second, i have money, i have name recognition, maybe i can use my business experience to get elected. i don't think it will happen. i don't see him running. he said he would step down in 2019 as ceo of disney. neil: your thoughts using this as weapon anyway, going after advertisers, boycotting these companies? profan groups are boycotting

advertisers on espn and nfl games as a weapon. ironically using same thing this broadcaster was recommending but for different purposes? bottom line, it would seem that espn and the nfl remain targets? >> absolutely. we're going -- only thing that will really win this war is market forces, consumers themselves. they have the power here. by seeing roger goodell send commissioner of nfl telling players they have to stand, seeing suspension from espn, one thing is clear, president trump is winning the culture war. the american people are on his side. it would be foolish or any advertisers or people running corporations to continue to go against what the american people clearly want, clearly support. if their purchasing power will ultimately win this culture war. neil: very well-put, cabot. what do you think, quickly happens if the nfl owners rally around a plan apparently barn did id about by the commissioner, make standing up for the national anthem stick? you can do presumably whatever

you want prior, but you better stand when the national anthem is played? where do you think that will go? >> players don't have too much power. if they want go play in canada or arena football league. i don't see that as viable option. nfl or bust for these guys when it comes to money or note right. they don't have too many options. i don't see the players have options. go whatever the owners or people paying salaries go with here. neil: it will be interesting, cabot, thank you very much. you've seen these images coming out of california, 115,000 plus acres destroyed by wildfires. all of wine country literally up in flames. forget about the damage to the industry but wait until you hear how long it will take to recover from what is happening here, after this. ♪ can i kick it?

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california with so many going out of control so fast, just getting a handle on how many there are has gotten to be an issue. hillary vaughn with very, very latest. hey, hillary. reporter: neil, the fires are growing and moving quickly but i want to give you a snapshot. to my right, you can see, this is what people expect napa to look like, besides the smoke hovering over the vineyards. if you move to my right, see the devastation and destruction behind me. this was a tasting room at winery here. now you can see it has been burned to the ground. to my left, you can look over here see where the fire tore through this acreage right here, still black. a lot of plants have been burned to the ground as well. two big fires that are currently affecting northern california. the atlas fire is only 3% contained right now. we just got an update, it jumped

to 42,000 acres. the tubbs fire through northern california, has grown to 28,000 acres. those two fires combined are putting 21,000 businesses, homes and other buildings at risk. the calfire chief says they have dumped records amount of fire retardant from the area, 266,000 gallons. they deployed just about every firefighting aircraft asset they have in the country. we also got word that they are continuing to do heiress cues. at least 50 people were rescued from their rooftops in some of the mountain areas because they weren't able to get access to some of the roads leading away, out of those neighborhoods. as many have 17 people have died. over 25,000 have been evacuated. at least 28 new evacuation orders for several areas rolled out overnight. the sonoma county sheriff says 200 people are still missing. neil, 11 of shelters are at capacity. the largest veterans home here

in napa valley, actually had to be partially evacuated last night, as fires continued to move through. neil? neil: hillary vaughn, thank you very, very much. anaheim's mayor is with us right now, tom tait. mayor, thank you very much for taking the time. how are things looking? >> well, we're down here in southern california and things are looking certainly much better than they are in northern california. our fire, had harrowing couple days. it is now 45% contained. we're looking for weather to turn for the better here. we have the santa ana wind here are very tough and those diminished. we're looking much better, we lifted most of our evacuation orders, and folks getting back into their homes. we lost about 15 homes but, certainly our hearts go out to our friends in northern california because it is really rough up there. neil: it is really incredible. i don't know where and how they

connect, but some of them do. i'm curious, some of the images we're seeing even from disneyland nearby, mayor, seem surreal. did it affect attendance there? was the park closed? what can you tell us? >> really no effect on disneyland. the fires in anaheim were out in the eastern part of our city, that is the hill and canyon area. neil: okay. >> the park is maybe 10 miles away, a little more than that to the nearest fire. a lot of smoke but certainly no risk whatsoever to, to any fire, that far, that far west. neil: mayor, you haven't put out any recommendations or reminders to those visiting, not to go to the parks in that area? >> no, absolutely not. through mess of anaheim, business as usual. that is most eastern side and we're making great progress

getting that under control. neil: mayor, do you know why this spread so far so fast? drought conditions are over. you had a great deal of rain. the parched conditions that are normally at play were not here or i could be missing something. what happened? >> we have aot ofue fl because of rains, then itries out. ne: right. >> the santa ana win whi rough the canyons. these fires are hard to stop. they move through fast. a lot is weather dependent. we had something like 1100 firefighters, come from all over southern california, so quickly, these strikes teams, really, it kept the anaheim fire from being, could have been much, much worse. really, really heroic actions on these firefights. neil: on your part as well, mayor. thank you very much for taking time. we wish you well. hope you're safe. tom tait anaheim, california mayor.

this all literally jumped into the scene here. people, a lot were caught off guard. they quickly reacted. we'll keep an eye on what is going on there. this springs through more quickly through the entire state. eminem added his names to those that don't like donald trump. he took it to new level, going after fans of his that are trump fans. that might change things. after this. >> that is awfully hot coffee pot. should i drop it on. today we're going to talk about trucks.

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is happening across the world. we'll keep you posted. walmart shares getting a big boost after announcing a 20 billion-dollar stock buyback, but a promise to test out 30-second return policies in some stores. 30 seconds, it takes me that long to get my walt. deirdre bolton on how this will all work. it seems incredible. >> it seems incredible because bigger picture, walmart versus amazon. walmart used to be the biggest dog in the yard. had a lot of people's retail money. amazon chipped away past 10 years, especially buying more than $13 billion for whole foodses to encroach on walmart's grocery territory. it used to take you five minutes, that is their claim, to return object. neil: online. >> or even in the stores, taking

five minutes that was their foal. now they're saying 30 seconds. they're trying to be faster, cheaper, smarter to keep up with amazon. neil: for each person? >> that is their goal now. neil: that is impossible. that is impossible. >> here is how it works, as of november if you order something from walmart.com, obviously online, you decide you don't want it, there is a code. can it with their app, a store knows coming back. go into express lane at physical walmart store, put the item back on counter, flash little app with the code, in theory -- neil: that express lane if there are other people on it, your 30 seconds is being eaten up there? >> this is going to be a challenge for them, for sure, but this is what they're stating. as of november, any item that you buy online, this is what they're saying, 30 seconds to return it. 2018 they will expand the program to even be something, you go to a physical walmart

store. you come home. you don't want whatever it is. you can with the app. bring it back. again the same concept. neil: no questions asked? >> no questions asked. if you bit part of the cookie, i'm right there with you, neil. i don't know. neil: this applies to all items or only certain items? >> this across the board, dot-com for november and december. neil: what about people, buy clothes, wear clothes, bring it in there. >> neil is asking for a -- what if you buy a halloween costume? neil: guy buy as halloween costume on november 1st comes in -- >> doesn't like the cookies. neil: you see where i'm going? >> i see where you're going. asking for a friend. neil: asking for a friend. >> one thing i feel like we should notice is that walmart's stock, if you look over the past year actually has been doing better than amazon's, which many people might be surprised. neil: doing better than amazon.

>> past 12 months. neil: interesting. >> amazon up 19% year-to-date, different story. if you look longer picture, walmart is hanging in there. neil: do ask about the halloween costume. >> i will. and cookie. neil: costume and cookie. deirdre, thank you very, very much did you hear about this? taking celebrity outrage to a new level. eminem is lashing out at donald trump. listen to this. >> any fan of mine, support of his, i'm drawing a sand in the line, you're either for or against. neil: a lot we chose not to play there, uses nasty words. eminem, i told you many, many times you can't do that. this was interesting to me, because he is going after his customers, his fans, and delineating look, if you like this guy, with this guy, i essentially don't want to be with you, which is pretty bold but independent women forum pat

trees lee on that, and alley stuckey, fox news 24/7 reporter carley shimkus. i don't believe, while certain entertainers you know what they're coming from, this is leap saying i don't want you with me if you're a fan and you don't like this guy. >> yeah. neil: that might balance small part of his loyal base that is a leap? >> hit the nail on the head, my big take, what a bad business move. like you heard in the last line of five-minute long tirade fence the president, he doesn't want trump supporters as fans. usually when celebrities make political statements it is up to the fan whether to support that celebrity. eminem did the work for trump supporters. i know many will not buy the upcoming studio album he will pretty moating soon.

was this political or promotional move? possibly but not a good one. neil: he just probably figured my base wouldn't like donald trump. i don't know that how he would know that. maybe this is heartfelt he had enough, but rare is it the entertainer goes ahead and goes after his, his own base of fans here. what do you make of that? >> well that could be bad for business. i personally think it is great for republicans. i think the more that we can get eminem to freestyle rap liberal talking points, the more likely donald trump will win in 2020. this is hilarious. you have one ever the most vial, most perverse, dare i say misogynies i can letterry its out there, taking a moral stand. female empowerment left, are hailing him as a hero. unfortunately we kind of see this trend among the left that they really own care about morality when it comes to judging conservatives.

i don't think eminem is any different. neil: patrice, what do you think? >> i think it is interesting, celebrities in support of what he said, sean "puffy" combs, colin kaepernick, lebron james, but what is interesting a lot of rappers have interesting history. snoop dogg was on "the apprentice," was he helping one of the projects he was working on. it is ironic everybody is #resist in the music init dangerous -- industry. i don't think what eminem did was courageous. he was speaking to the crowd. there are rumors that he has a upcoming album and has music on pink's next album coming up on friday. >> uh-oh. neil: carley, would be brave if he had a rap in favor of the president, but i wouldn't hold my breath. >> that would be the real bravery here. we've seen this some times where

celebrities and politicians are considered so brave for making political points when they're making them, in a room full of people that feel exact same way as them. that is not necessarily my or traditional definition of bravery. it is also not smart. why we're seeing nfl ratings decrease, award show ratings decline as well, because a lot of times people say, you know, celebrities, stay in your own lane, dance, act, play football, but leave political talking points to political people. neil: you know, used to be in the old days, hollywood, this was late-night show hosts were free to bash a sitting president, whether republican or democrat. you always had a feeling it might be disproportionally so against republicans and democrats, but johnny carson would leave you guessing, jay leno would leave you guessing,. >> not anymore. neil: i'm worried about, ali, what this might signal? what other entertainers take the leap, where they're coming from, but now they're going to go after their own base of fans for

not sharing where they're coming from? what do you think? >> yeah. absolutely. i actually don't have any problem with someone using their platform to criticize policies or even a politician they don't like. but when you go after supporters, blatant disrespect for people who made you who you are. we're actually seeing this not just with eminem but with the nfl too. players saying i don't care, don't come to my game if you don't like i kneel for the anthem. this kind of haughty arrogance we're seeing throughout liberal hollywood right now. they think they got to the pedestal by themselves and not through their fans. people are tired of seeing arrogance. i think we'll see market correct itself. neil: i always wonder about a entertainer say be fair and balanced. i don't know if you can put that to a rap version, i neither see good or bad, i see this. wouldn't make a tightly-knit song, but that might be welcome but we're not going to be seeing that, are we?

>> we're in such a polarized society. i think these entertainers want people to draw the line. i thinking nor the fact that we are as individuals, we may agree on one issue, disagree on another. that doesn't make us any worse than anyone else. but they themselves, they feel that they have the moral high ground. they don't necessarily have that. we'll see what happens with emmy emmy -- eminem's sales and pink's sales on friday, maybe he will rally more people to his base, maybe other entertainers will try this foolishness in the future. neil: they know by going after donald trump, they benefit ratingswise. that is fairly obvious. >> eminem is number one trending topic on twitter. neil: we're feeding the beast. we're feeding the beast. >> we are feeding the beast. i don't think eminem will create bipartisan rap anytime soon but maybe you can do it.

neil: i can't even rhyme. >> we'll leave the singing to the shower, i understand, it is ugly. guys, thank all very much. >> thank you. neil: we're getting more questions surrounding exact timeline of that los angeles shooting. it matters for a lot of reasons, not least of which for victims families now feel they have ample ground to start calling lawyers. we'll explain.

neil: want you to take a look what is going on with media stocks. they are all selling off here amid the president suggesting, just suggesting, maybe their media licenses should be challenged over their coverage disproportionately unfair to him, originators of what he calls fake news. maybe we should start thinking twice whether you renew the licenses. just the comment alone, enough to send those stocks down. some appreciably. we'll keep an eye on that. keeping eye on mgm, questioning the vegas police department's timeline leading up to the mass shooting saying might not be accurate. what they have been looking at when the security guard jesus campos was shot. it used to be thought he was shot after the shooter already inflicted all his carnage and

damage. turns out he was shot before that five to seven minutes before that. does that mean the venue was responsible or hotel might have been derelict in its duty to inform the police or not quickly enough, whatever? we have robert strang. robert, what do you think of all of this? >> neil, it es so early in the investigation to be able to come up with a timeline that is so accurate, no way the police or fbi, all the federal agencies involved in the investigation, would try to cover up something like this. this is information being brought in, that the security officer got there before the shooting, this is all new information. no one really known this before. neil: yeah. >> let's see what happens. let's see what really ends up happening here. neil: people can read into it. obviously if you have a loved one, someone near and dear to you is dead now as a result, if

you're looking if this happened before this ensued, my loved one could be alive. i understand how this changes them and might get lawyers pouncing. for mgm to say the same line ising long what do they know that we don't? saying that this new timeline is accurate and the old one is it? >> mgm has no incentive to give the information out on its own. when i worked in the department of justice and i was an agent, the real timeline was important there are so many different facts in the case you don't want to give out too much information. you've got witnesses. you have got potential cocould cocospurtores. you may have have other people with an active government investigation. they will not give exact detail,

while they're doing interrogation, investigations, questioning individuals, until they have completed everything they have done. you might get other information from cell phones and other witnesses outside of the government investigation that contradict that investigation. neil: do you think that is what mgm is saying here when they said, there might be a different timeline to this timeline? because i'm confused on these timelines. i mean going thinking was that jesus campos, the security guard in question, went up to the 32nd floor and was shot by richard paddock, but after, after after the carnage, gunned down all those people, killed 58, wounded over five hunt others. if it is reverse of that, and shot prior, might have sped up the time which paddock was planning to shoot, how would that change things? forget legally, is there an

argument to be made, security guard disrupting that sped up shootings he would follow up on, how would that change things? >> because we're not inside of the investigation we don't know. the thing is, neil, we don't know enough about the security guard or enough about his background. that is what is going on in terms of the investigation. that is the first part. the second part is, perhaps, he was able to save lives by getting radio contact ahead of time, and getting police moving quickly to that location. that could have been part of the result here as well. so there are a lot of end results, if you will, if this actual timeline is correct. they could have saved lives. it could have been better. neil: right. >> it could have caused the police to react more quickly. on the other hand, it brings up questions about who was involved, at what time. was there other witnesses? so, this is a very strange case all the way around, you know, there is no real evidence so far as what -- neil: robert, do you know

what -- i may be going outside of your kind of expertise to the procedure of this sort of thing, a security guard, if something happened like that, would probably tell his central security office or security right there at casino who would entail, i assume, call police but do you know what the normal procedure would be, or what you recommend it should be? >> oh, sure. everybody knows if you get shot, you call the police, number one, right. neil: right away. you bypass the security office. >> yeah. that is an emergency. shots fired. you have got a security guard injured, possible -- you have guests in the hotel, you do an immediate 911 call. no question about that. that is like security 101. neil: so if he called security first and said i have been shot, and they waited on calling police, again, we don't know any of this, i mean that would not be the wise direction to take?

that'sight. neil. police alws, when shots fired, 911. it is an emergency. you try to save as many lives as you can. everybody in the business knows that. neil: all right. so real quickly, the last dumb question i ask you about paddock. >> never dumb. neil: he had planned to get out of there alive. his car was loaded for bear, 1600 rounds of ammunition, fertilizer compound that could blow up on detonation, he was planning to get out of there alive and do more damage, do you agree with that? >> i do. i think there is more to this case. i think everybody in our business, everybody that has been working for the department of justice that has seen cases like this, knows al qaeda, isis, that knows these types of organizations, everybody thinks there has to be a link here. this was just too perfect, too well-planned, too long term. there is something more here. it's a conspiracy. what kind of conspiracy, we don't know. neil: robert strang, investigative management group,

ceo, knows of these type of tragedies, how they ferret out. thank you very, very much. >> thank you, neil. neil: the president will make his tax pitch today. he is going to hearriesburg, pennsylvania. that is state he won no one expected him to win. he is speaking to a base that is passionate about what he wants to do, no matter dust-up with a u.s. senator, including one that will lead how he is going be doing this, after this. ♪ approaching medicare eligibility? you may think you can put off checking out your medicare options until you're sixty-five, but now is a good time to get the ball rolling. keep in mind,

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neil: all right. you might have heard that president trump is going to be making his tax pitch in pennsylvania in i believe harrisburg; right? that was a state he won by about a point. it was very close. but no one expected that to happen. and when it did, it set a cascade of events that very well made him the president of the united states. we're told he's going to say the typical american household is going to get a $4,000 raise as a result of these tax cuts. jiffy fund-raiser is here. dagen mcdowell is here as well. >> i'm angry and tired. neil: for no reason at all. white house correspondent gabby. gabba, we end with you and begin with you. on what the president is going to outline, despite on what you heard and read. you, middle america, you my harrisburg base are getting a big tax cut. it's going to average 4,000 bucks. will that be enough to close the deal with americans who are skeptical? >> well, it's certainly an

important pitch that he needs to be making, considering there's a lot of criticism over the past week since that tax reform outline was released. as so whether or not it goes far enough to in fact middle class relief or to give tax reform relief to middle class americans and to families. so i think that this is an important time for him to be out there, especially in an area like harrisburg, pennsylvania. he's visited numerous times before and really has a strong connection with the people there. and it will be interesting to see, you know, what specifics he gives in his speech later this afternoon to outline where there are benefits to the middle class in this tax reform framework. neil: because all of this is happening in the backdrop of comments by democrats elsewhere and even ad campaigns that have popped up on this network and fox news saying that the middle class isn't going to come out ahead on all of this. it's in the head of the beholder. and will he be able to get the upper hand on this? >> i hope so because it seems

like a lot of the republicans are giving into rhetoric from the left that you can't cut taxes for upper income families and upper income individuals. when the top 10% in this country pay more than 70% of all the taxes and nearly half this country pa i no federal income tax at all when you net it all out. the bottom 40% actually receive money from the government through the income earned tax credit. the president said, well, my rich friends don't mind paying more in taxes. well, i might not be your friend, but i do mind paying more. so keep your eye on the job creators in this country giving this entities. mom and pop shops, if you will, that 25% rate. stop giving into the rhetoric from the left. >> well, she's right about this. that they are very afraid of looking to give anything to the rich here. and i do know some of the more successful tax cuts in the past whether jfk, or ronald reagan or george bush, everybody got a tax cut.

so if it's ultimately republicans fear about looking like they're caving to the rich, that will decide the rich not getting one, where is that going to go? >> well, as far as tax reform, as far as what we're talking about and what you just said, i feel like donald trump right now is crazy as a fox, and i'll tell you why. the truckers. doing this on the backs of the truckers. this is brilliant, you know? this is back to the working man base and what better way to do it with these truckers? i used to do some work for the arkansas trucking association. we handle walmart trucking, titan trucking, whatever. and one of the things that i think was criticized in the first place is that paul ryan didn't come on with infrastructure. this thing actually hints towards some of the money that's going to be coming back with tax reform, money coming back in the united states. he wants us to do it on infrastructure. he is saying -- he is giving credit to a group, the

truckers, that a lot of credit isn't due. goods and services moving back and forth with the truck. so he in pennsylvania is going to have a backdrop of all of these big rigs, these hard-working men. these truck drivers, which is kind of the red, white, and blue america, you know? he has already ticked off the nfl. he has all of that going on, and that represented apple pie in america. so now he's moved to a group that will embrace him and, you know, represent kind of the red, white, and blue america, which is, you know, the truckers. >> well, apple pie and america are the people who watch the nfl. that's what he -- he remembers that, and i don't think his focus on that or any other distraction takes away from the central message that he needs to put out there, and that is i don't think the government spends your money better than you do. . >> but if we get tax reform done, it's going to be i think because of this twist that hinting at infrastructure and some of this tax money is going to go towards infrastructure, and that means that some of these democrats are going to come onboard because -- trucking is the -- neil: and, gabby, my worry is by going after senator bob

corker and i don't care who started it. sometimes i feel like i'm separating my teenage sons here. >> i know you are. what am i? neil: exactly. really. and i'm just wondering what good does that do, whether you feel you were genuinely cited or not. what good does that do to get away from the arguments that noel and dagen just raised here that are all legitimate, workable reasons to support tax reform, to support these tax cuts when you're getting in potentially a pissing match with the senator and your own party? >> i don't think it does much good, and that's why we're seeing this frustration by republican party leaders like mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. you know, paul ryan said earlier today, these two need to work it out amongst themselves, and i think that's exactly what needs to know here because by further dividing the republican party, you're not helping aid the tax reform effort in any way, shape, or form. but i do think that, you know, to the other end, the white house is doing things that will ensure that there are probably going to be some senate democrats who support

this tax reform package, like including the expanded child tax credit looking although different -- >> beyond just the three who didn't sign on to the big letter. i mean, could you get more democratic post? because he's going to lose some republicans. corker, by the way, just given his views not one more dime to the deficit. so that was not a slam-dunk anyway prior to this. but what do you think? >> i think he can get some democrats on. i know that the white house is currently working behind the scenes to try to convince some vulnerable democrats to sign onto this tax package. but ultimately, it will see -- it will depend on how many they can get and how many republicans they can lose. they don't have a major majority in the senate, and maybe to walk a fine line on this. >> if these republican senators don't push this through just like we saw with the health care reform, it will fall squarely on their spineless back. because the president knows this. the president will sign

anything that comes across his desk. and he knows. he's, like, okay. lose when you run again. go ahead because i'm not going to support you and the american people won't either ambushed be in the office in the first place. >> but it doesn't even affect's brand as much as it does the gop's brand. because we've got the house and the senate. but he's kind of separating himself saying, look, i want to get these things in. it's you people. >> what brand? the gop flag right now is this. this is what the gop flag looks like with john mccain and the thumbs down and obamacare repeal. >> here's the argument. the argument is -- >> puts you in a bad mood. >> thank you. >> you know what? i group up the child of small business owners, and they have had politicians wagging their fingers in my parents faces for 40 some odd years telling them that we've got your back. we know small businesses are the job creators, and they have done jack all in this country. >> well, yeah. any -- i think that a lot of

times the gop is in trouble. you're right. but a lot of it is not the gop's fault, as much as it is when donald trump came, they couldn't figure out do we want to be the golden-crusted elephant? or do we want to be the same old elephant? >> he ate those republicans up like a bag of m&ms, and they're mad about it. >> well, there you go. neil: speaking of the president, he's been tweeting on media coverage. not necessarily dagen's. but with all of the fake news coming out of nbc and other networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their license bad for country? that has a lot of media stocks down, thinking that the president is going to run rough shot over them or at least have their licenses called into question. what do you think? >> about? neil: that. calling their licenses into question. >> probably going to. yeah. that's what -- neil: you would support that? having licenses revoked? >> that's what you would when i thought the segment was over, and i'm just staring into the camera. and then you turn to me. that's my biggest nightmare.

>> that's red meat for president trump, and he knows it. but, again, that's a symbol of big government, which actually the people voted for him hate. so maybe you don't -- >> go that far. >> i think that these tweets, they're idle threats. >> he likes to make the mainstream media mad. . >> but, gabby, by doing it, what he's saying, calling into question coverage that he feels is not fair, it's fake news, all of that, so he is saying maybe we just question their licenses period. now, that was enough to put the fear of god into their stocks today. what do you think? >> i mean, i think it's exactly what dagen said. this is just an idle threat. it's not necessarily something he's going to follow through on, but he does need to be careful here. i mean, he can restrict access and boycott in some ways these outlets that seem to have certain proclivities that he isn't a fan of. but by threatening to pull their license or ban airwaves or something like that, that is a big government problem.

and something that would really be subject to significant first amendment scrutiny. >> yeah. it's, like, you're only allowed to follow one twitter account. and it's mine. >> just pass tax reform. neil: i want to get -- this just came in our newsroom. i don't want to get blindsided with this, but, dagen, i'll bounce it off of you. the boy scouts of america are now expanding programs to welcome girls from the cub scouts to the highest rank of eagle scout. so girls can go all the way up to eagle scout. >> i think it's cool because i hated the girl scouts. i was kicked out for bad behavior. neil: well, that's a shock. >> because they took me to hear jimmy carter speak when he was president, and i didn't want to go and made a stink about it, and they kicked me out. so i would have been in the boy scouts. i think that it's -- i don't know if they're -- neil: but there is a girl scouts; right? and the highest honor there is a civil award or something like that?

>> the gold award. neil: the gold award. i should know this because my daughter is a gold award. >> picture the girl scouts and not -- that's right. that seems a little weird. >> there are two genders. there's not one gender. neil: so why don't the scouts go to the gold award? >> the boy scouts are cooler than the girl scouts. >> girl scouts rock. >> hey, listen, i went to an all girl school, and it was awesome because i didn't have to give a fly's flip what i looked like. i didn't care a flying flip. neil: don't repeat it. all right. >> i didn't care what i looked like, so i loved being in an all girls organization. neil: that's interesting, dagen. i learn a little bit more -- >> what? neil: it just concerns me. >> i did not curse. neil: you did not. but i len more about the past and the wounds that are open

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but i digress, the nfl owners are meeting in new york next week we are told to resolve this issue. goodell says everyone has to stand for the national anthem. just deal with all of the other stuff maybe prior. but where is this going? the editor, national review contributing editor deroy murdock. what do you think? that is the message that the commissioner is going to send, i'm sure owners will embrace it. but a lot of players won't be too happy about it. what happens? >> well, look, i think the simple comment here is time and place. if these overpaid crybabies. the to demonstrate whatever the cause is, great. they can hold press conferences, do it outside the stadium, they can't do it while they're at work. a gridiron is a work place just like this studio is a workplace and just like the assembly line is a workplace. and they're workers. so the bosses should tell the workers do your jobs. you're there to stand during the national anthem. not to insult our flag or the soldiers fallen and otherwise,

and they need to follow the orders from their employers. they're getting paid a lot of money, and they should do what they're told. neil: i'm told it's not universal written that they need to stand during the national anthem. it has been accepted as a given in the past that it was written is that they just be out on the field for it. now, if they tighten that language, and it's -- to deroy's point, make that the policy here, there are going to be players who say, no, wait. just because they didn't back into a corner, then what? >> well, of course, it's going to be the owners and rodger goodell, they're going to have to enforce that. if they choose to change that language like you said and make it more specific that you need to stand for the anthem, then they better being to back up their words with some form of a punishment if players decide to go against that and neil and sit. neil: well, jerry jones punishment to that end, katie, was to not play them that game. in other words, to bench them. whether that's benched without pay, that's a whole 'nother issue, i grant you.

but then that could book rang on the owners then if their favorite players regardless when they're kneeling or standing, want to see them take part in the game, especially if it seems they're not taking part in the game, means they lose the game. what do you think? >> right. this seems like an awkward tug-of-war for the nfl, the whole and, again, the owners because it took them so long to get to this point that, to me, it speaks to it of more of a monetary issue with them with what's going on with directv and packages and refunds and lower ratings. but seems like a monetary issue as opposed to some deeper conviction on their part about whether their players are sitting or kneeling or standing for the flag, and i kind of think i'm getting the impression that they would really rather this just all go away. neil: but it's not going away; right? >> no. neil: and now, of course, in the latest case, it's targeting advertisers, whether it's espn analyst who was saying that go ahead and target advertisers if you don't like the way cowboys' players are being treated. and now a lot of fan groups that are getting tired of the

nfl blame games on the national anthem and protest sponsoring companies or featuring products during nfl games. so both sides, if you think about it, are going to use boycotts to make a statement. and i think the nfl is getting very nervous either way; right? >> well, they should be getting nervous. they've seen their ratings fall i think 17% for monday night football. they're losing a lot of money. it's a massive distraction. remember, it's the national football league. not the national protest league. if these guys want to make their stance, great. they should do it outside the football arenas when they're off duty and they're not at work, which is what a football arena is if you are a football player. neil: that's well put. guys, we'll know in about a week or so what it will be. but it's sounding like that's going to be -- someone is going to be tempted to disavow that and the fight will ensue. thank you very, very much. all right. the president of the united states meeting the prime minister of canada. they're going to discuss trade. you know, in canada,

you know, you don't read much about it here. they are apoplectic that they're getting the shorter end of the trade stick right now, and you have a u.s. president walking away from an agreement that has benefited canada and canadians are not one bit happy about it. not one bit. after this this woman is laughing because she's listening to audible. and this woman is pretending her boss's terrible story is funny. experience the comedy, not your commute. dial star-star-audible on your smartphone to start listening today.

>> hi, everybody, live on the floor of the new york stock exchange. i'm lori rothman with this fox business brief. i want to direct your attention to general electric trading at a two-year low today. down 6%. the story here, the analysts in particular are pointing to some real trouble with this company, and that shows a little bit of inconsistency there. so you basically have just pricing everybody retiring early. that came last week, that news. and then the chief financial

officer jeffrey is leaving along with a couple of vice chairs. so jp morgan is cutting its price target by $2 a share to $20. and jp morgan is also questioning now whether we will see dividend cut in ge shares. ge currently paid 4.1% in its dividend. that is the second highest in the dow component company. back to you. . >> all right, lori, thank you very, very much. well, the president, meanwhile, will be meeting with justin trudeau. this might not seem like a huge issue with everything else going on. but north of the border, it is all they're talking about. again and again and leading broadcast that we are abandoning nafta and getting out of deals that have been deemed beneficial to canadians. so they're concerned everything from goods and all products are going to be caught up in a trade war with perhaps the country we're most friendly with on this planet. scott martin on that.

scott, that seems to be the read you're getting from a lot of the canadian press that something that we're not even thinking about is something that they're very, very worried about. should they be worried? >> yeah. they should be, neil, because like you mentioned, the relationship with canada is one that's very important. i think to both countries. but this could be one of those things where this is the art of the deal from trump. this is the strings of the negotiation from trump with respect to his tact with mexico. which don't forget, mexico, abincredible trade surplus that they have with the united states. over $130 billion and certainly a great situation that mexico has with exports with canada as well. so this could be one of those things that trump is laying the ground work for. more with respect to what they want to do. what we want to do with mexico versus the particular attack on canada. >> you know, john, of course, we've had such a long established friendship with the canadians, even when one government is liberal as in the case of the canadians now,

another deemed conservative as is ours right now. but we've been always able to hunker through. but this is causing real friction between the leaders themselves, and i'm wondering how that plays out. what do you think? >> well, you know, i have no doubt that scott's right that trump think so he's got some grand plan to get some amazing deal out of what he's doing. but let's remember. it's not conservative to be antitrade. the sole purpose of work. the reason we get up and go to work every day is our expression, our desire to buy things, to get things from across the street and around the world. how it hurts us when we have open markets so that the world can compete to serve our needs has never been explained, and i don't think trump has explained that helps his base to drive up the prices of foreign goods that they're relying on. >> you know, john mentions a good point, scott. because if memory serves me right during the clinton administration, they have more of a republican support for these trade deals, as did barack obama for his deals

than democratic support. and i'm wondering if we're turning the world upside down here, renegotiating pacts that were deemed beneficial to largely our guys at the time. now, maybe it played out that they weren't or deemed not to be. but it's like the roles have reversed now. >> sure. and i'll tell you. the fall out is one that can be devastating. i mean, neil, we talked about the border adjustment tax, you know, many months ago. and thankfully it has fallen off the table. we talked about, you know, maybe some import tariffs on mexican goods, and let's face it. goodness. there's electronics, there's appliances, agricultural goods that are coming over from mexico that benefit the american consumer. so to john's point. if you go to this unilateral approach where a, we're going to tear up all of these trade agreements just for the benefit of saying, hey, mr. and mrs. american worker, we're going to save your job in the process, that tax -- or the increase in price is going to go right to the american consumer, so it's not as easy said as it is done. so it's something that trump's

got to take very seriously when he goes to the table her h. >> let's say that this -- they get these differences settled. a lot of people say, john, in the end, the president just puts all trade, you know, nations on notice that we're looking at the eyes and crossing the ts, and we're not likely to do much more than that, but we want to honor agreements and encourage manufacturers to do more stuff here. and that is as far as this goes. what do you think? >> i think that's what the markets are signaling. if they really thought trump was going to take us in a massively-protectionist direction, they would be in major correction mode, but they're not. so i think that's the market's way of saying this is all bluster. let's hope so. let's be very clear that if foreigners can't sell to americans, americans also can't sell to them. protectionism always hurts the country imposing it because it

impoverishes its people. our most valuable companies in the world are companies like apple that are relying on the global market. why would we shut them off like this? real quickly, guys. i know my producer is going to kill me. but i did want to get your take of what's going on in the market right now. scott, do you think this is in anticipation of tax cuts getting passed? or is this above and beyond that? >> i think it's tax cuts first and foremost, neil. we've seen the plan relatively laid out with some details to come still. about had i think it's the hope that we're going to get some reform that we've been looking for for many, many years and things are going to help s&p 500 companies. neil: john, what do you think? >> i love tax cuts, but i think this is ultimately about gridlock and investors love gridlock. trump is distracted. that's beautiful to markets. neil: that's interesting. guys, thank you, both, very, very much. all right. if you raise taxes, will the revenue come? well, there is a revolt going on against the soda tax in illinois that might prove that

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. neil: all right, a week ago, this didn't seem like an issue. 17 killed by the california wildfires. in fact, according to one fire official, 3500 homes and businesses have been destroyed statewide, going on in the north, in the wine country and as far south as anaheim. not far from disneyland. keep an eye on that. cook county board voting on soda tax. jeff flock is there with the breaking news on that. maybe not quite what we think, jeff. what's happening? >> reporter: yeah, just came in. they just voted, neil. 15-1, it appears, and last time when they passed it, it was 8-8 with the county board president breaking the tie and approving the tax, now 15-1 against. you look at the polls on this. it was widespread public outcry

against this. most every poll that was done, nine out of ten voters. and several people spoke here today, and i'll tell you, lot of them like this gentleman here who said i don't mind maybe a little tax, but a penny an ounce? you can't pay all the bills with taxes. >> you can't pay all the bills with taxes. never be able to pay our bills through taxation. what was wrong with a half a penny. i'm a truck driver, we deal with half of pennies in my industry. instead of penny for an ounce, what's wrong with 8 cents, half. at $85,000 a year we pay for the commissioners. reporter: the salary, right? >> the salary, which comes to like a million and a half. another $1200 a month per commissioner, let's start with some of the cuts right there. they live off of $80,000 a year. reporter: you make a great point, sir. i appreciate your time. he came and he's one of the

fellas that came and spoke today, neil. this stops this momentum, you had multiple cities across the u.s. even voting for it, but not here in chicago, which some people think maybe the tax capital of the nation. they finally said no. neil: was the problem, jeff, and that guy was fascinating and right to the point. reporter: i thought he was great. neil: did they just not raise the revenue they thought? or not worth the headache or both or what? reporter: well, a number of things. one they didn't implement it very clearly. not only did they tax sugary drinks but drinks that were artificially sweetened. the other thing, they exempted all the folks get anything kind of food benefits, food stamps and help, so in some sense, these are the people you'd like to target and have feuer sugary drinks, well, they didn't get taxed on it.

it wasn't implemented very well, and the problem is, though, they have a $200 million shortfall in the budget now, so they're going to do something, cut services or as the gentleman suggested, maybe reduce the salaries of the commissioners. neil: he knew the salaries, jeff flock, thank you very much my friend. reporter: sharp guy. neil: as are you. the president saying he's perfectly willing to tweek his own tax proposal. to brian babin and if he does, what he would like to see tweeked. congressman, good to have you. if you have your druthers and knowing what you know about the overall blueprint of this, what would you like change or add or cut in or cut out? >> well, let me put it this way, i'm not in leadership, neil, i'm not sitting at the table with the president. but i will tell you this, i was a small businessman for 36 years, and as a dentist, a practicing dentist.

and i know what the burden of a complex convoluted tax code does with a ton of regulation. we've got to lower the tax rates. we've got simplify the code. our tax code is 70,000 pages long. many, many times longer than the holy bible but with none of the good news, and we've got to simplify it, we've got to make sure that the average working class american gets a big tax cut. we've got to lower our pass through taxes, lower our corporate tax rate so we can compete in a global market, and then finally, let me say this, we're not going to balance our budget by taxing our way out of it or by cutting spending to get our way out of it. we have to grow our way out of this 20+ trillion dollar national debt that we have, and the only way to do that is to give people, unleash, unshackle

american business and the american worker and let them prosper and create revenues and it's a proven, it's a given. we've seen it under president kennedy, under president reagan, you cut taxes and you're going to increase revenues. neil: you know, congressman, there's been this concern among a lot of your colleagues. you say you're not in leadership, a lot of your colleagues look up to you, i can certainly understand why, but they're feeling the pressure to not make this look like it's a giveaway to the rich, though the rich pay most of the taxes. you know the drill, i'm not playing off your dentist background, that's what i do. but the thing i found interesting here is that they might be sort of accounting to including a fourth rate for the very rich, above the 35%. if that were the case, to get democratic votes presumably, how would you feel about that? >> you know what? i really -- look, we're going

to get rid of the estate tax, the death tax, get rid of other taxes and lower the tax rates. decreasing the corporate tax rate and pass-through taxes, so i think the ultrawealthy are going to be benefitting. so if that is what it's going to take to enable us to get this tax reform, then you know what? i will certainly entertain that in a very serious way. neil: really? >> yes, absolutely. i think, i think what we have to do is get a tax reform package through the house, and i think we're going to get it done, i really do. i can't predict what's going to happen over at the u.s. senate. we sent them 260+ bills, they're still sitting there. they have a way of doing things, there the filibuster rule. neil: right. >> yeah, we basically give the democrats a veto over what, you know, our agenda is, and -- neil: maybe can you threaten like a root canal with no

novocaine if they don't move fast? >> we want to drill down and see what we can find out. that's for sure. neil: congressman, you're a good man, thank you very much. good seeing you again. >> thank you, neil. neil: congressman brian babin. takes a lot to lead from the lucrative business, a very successful dentist and go to washington to shake things up. all right, speaking of shaking things up, one thing for entertainers to best the president. common place, but eminem took the extra leap to go after fans who do like trump, that he wants nothing to do with them. really? how? after this. who knew that phones would start doing everything?

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. >> that's an awfully hot coffee pot, should i drop it on donald trump? probably not. that's all i got until i come up with a solid. gotta plan and now got a

hatchet like a damn apache with a tomahawk. neil: that's eminem, the entertainer, and what raised eyebrows to cite some of the language that we bleeped out a little bit here is that he was going after fans, particularly those who might still be fans of donald trump, they were really not welcome with him. and that is a leap that we rarely see celebrities take. you kind of know where they're coming from but don't get that blatant to say if you're not agreeing with them, they want nothing to do with them. to actor, comedian, radio host joe piscopo, "saturday night live" legend, the greatest individual player on "saturday night live" history in my book. very good to see you, sir? >> hi, neil, how are you? can i do something first before we go to business here j. neil: sure. >> the cannolis got lost. there is a cannoli conspiracy in the building. neil: right, when you and maria -- >> i said i'm going on neil's

show after the columbus day parade, i got to give mr. cavuto cannolis, i call robert at vinneros, they disappeared. i did tucker later that night. neil: he is lying. >> no. neil: your son came on, i don't want to say dad is a liar. >> michael is here. on the radio this morning, i stopped at vinnero's myself, drove through an hour traffic and look, neil, this is happy columbus day. neil: whoa, whoa. well that is. >> this is for your lovely wife, please, and look at these, look at these cannolis. neil: my gosh. >> are those heart healthy? >> they are. after you had the surgery -- neil: could you close the box, my staff is watching, and these ingrates are going to think i'm sharing. >> we've got cake. they love you. neil: my gosh.

oh, man, you, you -- i'll be back under the knife. that was very nice of you. >> i was so upset with the cannoli conspiracy, i'm getting, it and i gave it to tucker, i was going to give it to tucker carlson and he would have said and what is a cannoli? [laughter] >> hold on, we got a call here. no hannity! [laughter]. >> thank you, that is very nice. >> happy columbus day. neil: let me ask you about eminem, i don't know if you are getting cannolis for him right now. you are free to think whatever you think. he took the extra leap, i thought, which was unusual to saying this. the president is out right now with the canadian prime minister, we're going to monitor that as he makes his arrival here. the eminem thing, he doesn't like this president, he made it

very clear. what's more, whether he's president of the united states or not, meeting with foreign leaders or not, he doesn't like people who do, like donald trump. what do you make of that? >> i don't know why but i didn't mind the eminem thing. when they go after donald trump. neil: they're free to do that. >> you know, exactly. if you make fun, listen, i made fun of presidents before, so what eminem did, i can say, i don't like the language, the language is unnecessary. when i have my 15-year-old son michael with me and we got to watch the eminem stuff to prepare for here, the foul language is so unnecessary. neil: they are raving about it. >> but the fact of the matter is he is free to do it, the guy is an artist. this is the way it hit me. you know what it reminded me of? dick gregory in 1960. neil: really? i like eminem, he is political, i'm not surprised, but i guess i took exception of the fact, wait a minute, are you saying that they're morons, the people

who like trump or i guess that's the rap against your old home "snl," it will leap at any chance to criticize them. i can remember when they were fair and balanced arbiters, go after everyone, when they went after jimmy carter, bill clinton and all, now it's not quite the same. >> they go after him. to eminem's behalf, it was like, i'm older than you, all you needed was bongos, like a beat nick rap. bongos and eminem. this is cool like scooby doo. or shaggy. [laughter] >> it was a brilliant piece of art, when you listen to jay-z, the cat is brilliant, you can't take that away. now on "snl," are they going to make the leap to weinstein? neil: that's the next thing. they had a weinstein sketch,

lauren michael said when you and i last chatted they didn't think it was good because he is a new york entity, now the press resigned for them to do it because so many have come out since. do you think they do something this weekend? >> they have to, someone should player, harvey. neil: were you ever censored out. skits back in the day that they said no. >> i think i mentioned what i did the ronald reagan piece was too severe, i did it because i was mr. democrat back then, before i met ronald reagan and dick ebersol working with lauren michaels, they killed the piece, they said it's too slanted. neil: what were you doing? >> a video, i likeened reagan's policies to outer limits. he's in control of the television set. i thought a great piece. i spent two, three days in the edit room. neil: they scrubbed it? >> killed it. dick ebersol said nah, this is

are too slanted. met the man, changed me politically, and i would think that if donald trump wanted to make a change rather than tweeting it, respectfully i could say bring out baldwin, bring the cast to the white house. neil: flies in the face of -- these days all the late-night hosts and you love them all and they love you, having great ratings success going after him, right? >> the president means numbers, the president means numbers. neil: let's say you had a late-night show and didn't do that or did skits making the other side look bad. how would it do? >> that's a good question, on the radio show, we keep it nice, objective, pragmatic, i don't want to let the viciousness take over. the meanless take over. bill o'reilly came on the show, he goes, bill, are you going back on tv? they are so mean now, joe, it's so mean, the whole tenor has to

change. i think it can. my little radio show in new york -- neil: the little radio show is very big. would you entertain that? because i think there might be a market for a late night comic who doesn't follow what the others do? >> you look to what jimmy fallon does, jimmy fallon is where we should be. jimmy's numbers in the right demo are huge, huge. neil: he's singing the president -- >> it is fun, jay leno and johnny carson, they took shots on both sides. stop the hate. we are one country, man, onward and forward. leave the statue and take the cannolis. [ laughter ] >> joe piscopo. a lot of people are aware of the cannolis and their presence, i know what you're thinking, neil, it's not healthy. again, no. a little more after this.

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neil: getting a lot of dietary advice from people. don't touch the cannolis. that is from my wife. canadian prime minister justin trudeau talking trade with the president of the united states. they have had kind of nastyiness and political nastiness. president saying canadians get better part of the deal and setting up lumber war.

talk about how it will be good for trade and talking largely to truckers in harrisburg, pennsylvania. fed news is coming it. i wore this silly thing. i didn't know. trish regan did. she take us to next hour. trish: we're minutes away from release of minutes from september federal policy reserve meeting. canadian prime minister justin trudeau at the white house to kick off the next round of nafta negotiations. i'm trish regan. welcome to "the intelligence report." investors wait for further inside into the central bank interest rates plans for remainder of the year. very big balance sheet. they're working on getting that down. wall street closely watching after fed officials expressed concern about weak inflation, despite a growing economy and

very strong job market. economists expect one more interest rate hike before 2018. our very own adam shapiro is standing by live at federal reserve. he has the minutes for us. going to him now. >> persistence of low inflation might result in the federal funds rate staying uncomfortably close to its effective lower bound. the fed is worried about low inflation. there is disagreement about policy members about the pace of future policy action on rates. they go on to say that a few participant thought additional increases in the federal funds rate should be deferred until incoming information confirmed that low reads on inflation this year were not likely to persist. so the fed, divided on why inflation remains low. how quickly to raise interest rates. many participants worried about low inflation persisting.