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kennedy: a couple of white women who use their legal connections to wiggle out of the noose. it became obvious server was the washing machine in the clinton foundation money laundering scam it was obvious hillary was guilty of something.

comey laid out a slim n slide right up the white house lawn. he must have had it the grd idea of a trump presidency so much, even th -- maybe got cold feet n october when he reopened pandora's box. if god forbid she ascended to the highest office. you win, i'm kennedy.

does this prove the fix was in? joining me now, she is the co-host of "the five" on the fox news channel. was the fix in with comey? >> there were many that surmised that before and now there is some evidence to be able to support that theory by the drafts of these emails. it shows the fbi may be two different departments not communicating with one another. they requested the information, there was a mention of it. they don't have it as it relates to the clinton email investigation. when you put two and two together. who is lying, show is covering up. it shows comey may have perjured

himself. this guy has a book coming out. this is something he should have to everyif every -- he should he testify about. the emails suggest that specifically he was formulating his conclusion prior to even interviewing hillary or any of the other witnesses. kennedy: two months before. they had not come to the conclusion or the truth. but it seems as though he already decided in may of 2016, july 2, 2016. july 5 is when he came out and said she is reckless. kimberly: and no prosecutor would brit case. his job was to investigate it and the charging decision is suppose to be made by the attorney general at the time,

loretta lynch. he had already freeformed that conclusion two months prior at a minimum. that's at least we know when he did this draft to come to a determination. how do you do that if you haven't even interviewed the subject and the target of the investigation? kennedy: there are so many ways they could have proven she was not telling the truth. not to mention just flat-outlying. there are so many i statements she made publicly. she would have perjured herself. we don't know if she would have done that because we have to rely on her testimony and some of the notes. did i'm perjure himself when he talked about notes in regards to the conversation that he had with loretta lynch debriefing him with that tarmac meeting. what kind of conversations did

they have when he was briefing her on it. did he have notes that were contemporaneous with it. what exact chicago was the subject of those conversations. what was the conversation that that -- that they had during the time he was drafting these emails coming to the conclusion there was no wrongdoing. i any she is in trouble because the tint kalts of this of dragging her into it as well. jim comey has lot of explaining to do. he came off like was holier than thou. kennedy: it looks like he's protecting here. kimberly: it does look like he's protecting her. limits see what she has to say about it at this point. maybe she wants to clear up a

few things. he hasn't maid her look very good at -- he hasn't made her look very good at all. what more proof do you need that he determined this was not going to be prosecuted or go any further and he thought there was no wrongdoing. that no reasonable prosecutor should bring a case against her. the fix was in. kennedy: mueller should expand the investigation to include comey and loretta lynch. there has to be some justice here because so far it has not been served. kimberly guilfoyle, nice to see you again. twice in one day. obamacare is as good as dead. president trump said it's just about time to bury the carcass. president trump: obamacare is virtually dead want best you can see you it's in its final legs. the premiums are going throughed the roof.

the deductibles are so high they don't get to use it. obamacare is a disgrace to our nation and we are solving the disaster that's obamacare. kennedy: real why it many just a big windfall for profitable insurance companies who take the handout and pocket the money. republican senator lamar alexander and patty murray struck a short-term deal on healthcare after the president pushed congress for bipartisan reform. but what does it look like? let's go to my certified party panel. katie frates is here and the host of the next revolution sunday nights at 9:00 p.m. eastern, steve hilton, and fifth column podcast host kmele foster.

welcome, everyone. i don't like the subsidies to obamacare because it goes to insurance companies. >> obamacare is boorly designed. redining a healthcare plan that will require us to figure out how much taxpayer money goes to insurance companies to keep understand affordable is a poor design. but the president isn't going far enough. it seems he's willing to settle for a situation where they find a short term and long term fix. but we are doing effectively the same thing. kennedy: chuck schumer and the republican senators want to do the same thing. you are from england. the healthcare system is an

abomination. >> we certainly don't. but it's a cheaper abomination. it costs half as much. but the thing to the taxpayer. kennedy: you are an american citizen now. steve: the thing is, the problem is that none of these policy conversations with farm a care or healthcare insurance get to the real point, why it costs so much. that's because of the corruption and the crony capitalism, the hospitals and the insurance companies. kennedy: all they do is watch each other's stinky backs. it's gross. i think it's awful. i don't want to see democrats and republicans working together

on immigration, infrastructure fine. back washing, no. katie: i do agree trump is being a little dramatic about this. clearly this isn't working. i'm of the mindset if we can get something done that can help even baby steps that will help is better than this perpetual stalemate of nothing happening at all. i don't think anyone will get everything they want all at once. but if you can start on that path, it's better. kennedy: i will get what i want if government gets out of healthcare. today. >> that would be dramatic.

steve: bert quality for a lower price. you don't have it in the healthcare sector because necessity bribe people to protect their markets. kennedy: they line their coffers and it's disgusting and repellant and that's why people will get sick and start dying. steve: in sill could be valley where i live there are people working on that. so be careful what you wish for. kennedy: mark zuckerberg on his 7,000th birthday. president trump on the african nation of niger. >> the toughest calls i have to

make are the calls where this happens. soldiers are killed. the traditional way if you look at president trump and others. i like to call when it's appropriate when i think i'm able to do it. kennedy: president trump's photographer said he documented the former commander-in-chief with hundreds of such families. a former spokesperson said bush 43 may have met with thousands of families of fallen troops and they are speak out claiming past presidents comforted them in their time of grief. sarah huckabee-sanders said he wasn't criticizing predecessors, but stating a fact. was the president caught lying or is the media twisting the story again.

i want to give the president credit where credit is due. steve require' part of how he does things. even he knew he was screwing it up when he was talking by the. he said i think, someone told me, he knew he blundered. and the thing people like about him, he's not a professional politician, he doesn't speak carefully. kennedy: it's a sensitive issue because of the fight he got in during the again election.

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formalize his august 10 declaration of a national emergency and send it to congress by the end of the week. there is no indication of who will replace marino. do we need a drug czar at all? the answer is a resounding no. peter suderman, welcome back to the show. we talk about healthcare and drug addiction. including the opioid crisis is of course a national health concern that has become a criminalized effort. so how does criminalizing drug use, specifically opioid drug use actually exacerbate the problem. >> the answer is it doesn't help, it makes it worse. when he throws someone in jail they don't get the treatment they need. the medicine-assisted treatment

you need when you are going cold turkey when you are on opioids. instead you get a harsh cold turkey situation and no one's shoulder to lean on. you have taken an addict and not helped the person. we made it much harder to get prescription pain medication. the opioid crisis is not primarily a crisis of legitimate maintain shents but recreational users. kennedy: that's one of the big myths that grandma takes percocet for her back pain and the next thing you know she is paying junkies in trl park. >> most of of the people who ause opioids are not chronic pain patients and they did not start by getting legitimate pain medication. they get from a friend and the

real problem comes when they use them in combination with other drugs. that's where you see a lot of the mortality issues. they are also abusing other substances, alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine. that's where the real problem comes in. in many cases young men with mental health problems and low income. that's what the opioid crisis is about. we made a mistake deciding it's a criminal issue related to prescription pain medication. the other thing happening here, we made it harder for people who are truly in pain to get the medication keeping them from feeling that pain. that's another unintended consequence that we have seen of this misguided criminal war on opioids over the last decade or so. kennedy: when we have the flames

of hysteria fanned by reinstituting a new drug senator -- drug czarand restart. it makes it difficult for people who truly need clinical help for the drug addiction and the mental illness which goes hand in hand in this country. when you treat people like that as criminals, all you do is fill up prisons and make more tragedy. >> what we want is less addiction and less pain. the way we have treated the opioid crisis by cripple fallizing it rather than treating it as a medical issue has created more pain and more addiction. kennedy: florida declared a state of emergency. it's not over a new hurricane. just richard spencer. he's the white nationalist who organized the deadly

charlottesville rally. emergency management will help keep the peace while the national guard gets put on stand by. officials estimate the security at the event will cost $500,000. the university president said he was shocked to learn that spencer was speak on campus. the party panel returns. katie, i'll start with you. obviously when student groups hire people like richard spencer, they want publicity. they know what they are getting. they are fighting free speech on the offense. what do you make of the state of emergency in florida? katie: i'm of the mind that an unnecessarily large response is better than not enough, especially in the minds of the police. so many times now whether in

baltimore or charlottesville, we have seen the police refuse to do their job and refuse out of concern or backlash or whatever it may be, to assert themselves and keep people separated. i would rather see them be there en masse and making sure nothing like charlottesville happens again than not have enough of a presence and see this blow up. kennedy: i sight as appeasement either way. this is a public university. you have got kids on grants and scholarships and financial aid, and they are having to pay some of the costs. so you have this massive police state or you appease the people who want to a squash free speech. steve: i agree with you said. but in the end you have to stand up for free speech. that has to trump everything else. what was interesting in this argument over the last few

months is what happened to berkeley where you had a real change in their attitude to this. where previously they gave up and let the people a who want to squash speech do that with. but they went in and spent the money and allowed the right to speech be upheld. you can't let speech be crushed. kennedy: you can't. you were part of an event where black lives matter protesters stood up and tried to shout you down. what's it like being in one of those moment? >> bizarre. there was a gawntd let of security guards had to get past to get into the room. it's one of those situations where i suspect most of of the people who showed up didn't think kmele was going to say some things i don't like. the event itself was strange

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>> the good news is that isis has lost control of its stronghold in rocca. the syrian forces said the city had been a terrorist organization defective capital since 2014. it has been liberated with only about a hundred fighters hanging around town. the bad news is that two of the closest allies on the ground, they are battling each other. as i racking national troops have moved into the kurdish controlled city. the kurds in the north voted for dependents in iraq in september.

two of our friends potentially starting a new war. maybe it's time to sit this one out fellows. let me bring a former un ambassador to the un. welcome back. >> as always, we may sit at different ends of the spectrum with regards to foreign policy, but here i agree with you. i think the state department claiming neutrality in this issue as far as kurdish independence is doing a great disservice to them. why are we standing in the way of the kurds having their land? >> we shouldn't be. it's important to understand that what the kurds are facing in this attack in the very near future is not a civil war inside iraq, this is the iran dominated government along with their regular forces attacking our allies. the president gave a speech on

friday saying we need to do more to stop the belligerency in the middle east. and now let's be clear, this attack didn't come because the kurds voted for independence. that isis capital has fallen to the caliphate and is essentially finished. that's not to say isis is finished. terrorist activities will be conducted from elsewhere. this allows the regular forces of the government and the shiite militia to turn away from dealing with isis and attack the kurds. >> they have been treated so horribly by different countries including turkey. i don't know why were still allied with turkey because they're awful they been horrible to the greeks and they are bad for the turks. the turks have been our most

solid allies what should the united states be doing to support them if anything right now? >> this goes back to the first persian gulf war when we provided refuge and in effect created a safe haven that's come to kurdish independence. we were not paying attention, we didn't see it coming although the head of the revolutionary guard directing everything, we didn't do enough is an hour on the back foot. i would give armor and artillery to the kurds but they've cost some problems by internally sentient. there's a bunch of commie kurds running around. >> i think it would be helpful for the united states to say that we believe the kurds are entitled independence.

we'll take the steps we need to help them but if iran continues to direct this offensive against the kurds not only will it be curtains for the nuclear deal things will get worse, i don't think that think we have the spine to stand up to. >> their running proxy wars in the middle east and they, like russia are looking for hegemony in that part of the world. >> moving right along, that's not our problem, we should not be militarily intervening there and it's a very on appetizer soup. coming up, the staff and sea otters did they share an adorable viral video or fight to the death in front of horrified

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