>> i love paul ryan saying the accusations are credible, but not proved. thank you for being with us. good night from new york. kennedy: senate republicans trying to use tax reform as a tool to destroy obamacare. will it work? another sexual harassment scandal involving an unnamed congressman. wait until you see how much it has cost taxpayers. put on some lip particular. time for a kiss. after multiple political embarrassments and wasted opportunities, senate republicans may achieve the impossible. killing obamacare by turfing the individual mandate.

the supreme court ruled it's a tax. they have to remember the individual mandate is because of that ruling a tax. i know this is suppose to be about tax reform. why didn't you boobs think of this earlier? killing the individual mandate collapses obamacare because now there is no mechanism forcing healthy people to buy expensive understand they didn't need. you knit wit tonight with nitwit think of this? the worry is there will be more uninsured people, up to 4 million the first year alone. but in reality it's just over 1% of the population. and most of of those are

foregoing coverage by choice. that's the freedom issue no one wants to talk about. there are problems with this tax plan that need to be reconciled. this is not one of them. so the cable guy, get 'er done. don't worry, i'm sure wannabe senator roy moore will ride in on his white horse to save the day. maybe not. i'm kennedy. right now we have two utah competing tax plans. one from house republicans and one from senate republicans. there are a lot of differences that will need to be reconciled.

but potentially the president's desk. which plan is better for all of us taxpayers. joining me now, tim carney. welcome back to the show, tim. so will the house convince the senate to not delay lowering the corporate thanks by a year? >> well, they have to play all sorts of accounting games in order to get this to clear. it's got to do -- remember we talked about reconciliation. it has the size of the budget impact of any one provision means it's subject to the 60-note threshold. so if they want to make the corporate thanks cut permanent. one way the jigger it so those numbers work out is to delay the start of it. that's a tricky trade-off here.

>> the one thing in all of these proposals that will have the biggest impact is lowering that corporate tax rate. >> i would argue if the trade-off end up being about whether we make it permanent or starting it earlier, making it permanent is much more important. not like my budget that goes out two or three months. they need to make sure it's permanent. they need to -- in order to make it permanent they may have to shrink the size of it. the problem is when you talk to a guy like paul ryan he says the reason we want to pass it right away is to juice the economy before the mid-term election.

you are not going to juice the economy today by promising a corporate thanks cut in 15 months. kennedy: i don't think any of these people deserve reelection. i think there is a viral strain of incompetence and i'm sickened by it. they have to figure some of this stuff out. if it goes to conference, it could take an awful lot of time. why is the senate ticking with 7 brock ets and not collapsing them? >> it has to do with where you are going to reduce revenue. when it comes to simplification, this is where i agree more with the senate guys than paul ryan. tax simplification is about getting rid of all the complexities. when you do the paperwork and at the end it's one step to flip to

the back of the book to see your taxes. collapsing the number of rates is not the same as making the tax code simpler it doesn't reduce the number of bad decisions you make. what we want are fewer exemptions, fewer reductions and lower rates all around. kennedy: even if theoretical simplification there are a lot of people whose taxes could still go up. >> this is what's going to make it politically nearly impossible. there are so many regular people benefiting from bad policies like the mortgage interest deductions. regular people who aren't doing anything wrong are getting tax benefits, they use it under simplification. kennedy: we need less government. >> that's not on the table right

now. kennedy: they are addicted to it. there is an idiot crisis. the republicans' latest attempt to repeal the obamacare individual mandate, senator john thune explaining the gop reasoning. >> there are things we want to accomplish through the tax reform bill. getting rid of an unpopular, unworkable tax, jonathon gruber said the individual mandate doesn't work. it does tax lower income americans the most of. 80% of the tax falls on those who make $50,000 a year or less. you get rid of that and it enables you to put money into tax relief for middle income families. kennedy: democratic senator ron wyden * says all they are doing

is turning a tax bill into a healthcare bill. should the republicans be trying to kill two birds with one stone? let's go to my eagle eyed party panel. and "reason" magazine's peter suderman. i will start with you. $338 billion savings over a decade if you spike the individual mandate. but it's not just spiking the mandate. it does more than that. please explain. >> what republicans are trying to do is pay for their tax reform while getting rid of a central plank of obamacare. this is a victory but a partial and imperfect victory.

it leaves the preexisting conditions rules in place. we know from watching states that tried to have the preexisting conditions rule. we know from states that tried this, the individual market melts down, there is nobody left to serve individual insurance to people. so that is what republicans are risking here. their argument is actually the cbo is wrong and all of this business about how people are going to lose their insurance coverage because we are getting rid of the mandate. they are probably right about that, but what that means if they are overstating the effect on coverage. they are also overstating the effect on the deficit. this is just a budget gimmick. kennedy: it's a budget gimmick that would allow republicans to finally make good on a central promise of most of of their campaign. but what does it do for people

who might lose insurance because they have preexisting conditions. >> the republicans can't seem to pick a theme they want to stick with. whether it's a humane way it of obamacare. i can tell you from personal experience, but under -- my understanding of all these plans, my taxes, are going to go up. my healthcare is in peril. both myself and members of my family. i don't know how i ended up in this middle class nightmare the republicans claim to be alleviating. kennedy: and you don't get your salt deduction. >> i'm solidly middle class and i'll get hurt back from every direction. kennedy: are they doing it for

the wrong reasons? >> yes. this was as anthony just so eloquently put, it's benefiting the donor class. the gop donors. not necessarily the 1%. just really benefiting the republican donor class. that's it. and what is so upsetting for the gop and so dangerous is that whole very like blue collar, even some democrats, that middle class support that came out for donald trump. they have been promised the largest tax cut in history. when they see it's not that, it may not be for them. kennedy: the democrats fantasy of removing president trump from office. this morning five articles of

impeachment were introduced against the president. >> we have taken this action because of great concern for our country, our constitution, our national surity and democracy. we belve presidentrump has violated the constition. kennedy: his sentiments were echoed by max seen what maxine waters, what a surprise. >> impeach 45! kennedy: the only thing mission from the impeachment parade was how to carry it out. it would make a majority vote to impeach the president and a 2/3 vote to convict him. are they just wasting everybody's time here? you say this divides democrats. >> do you know how absurd this

idea is? nancy pelosi is against it. nancy pelosi is against work on an impeachment project. she doesn't want that to be what democrats are about. she knows this doesn't have a chance. i'm not a fan of president trump. but there is no way that this goes anywhere. >> she is an evil villainest. and she knows they are crying wolf blitzer. nancy pelosi wants nobody more the world than for the president to be impeached. but she also knows this isn't the time or the way to do it. >> i would like to see every president impeached. and i also -- >> i recognize impeachment is large live a waste of time of and grand standing. and certainly the democrats could be divide under this.

five congress people are introducing articles of impeachments. kennedy: or he said something dumb or he did something i didn't like. >> a politician lied. it's been a year and there are three more years in this term. he's mean and misogynistic? that won't cut it. kennedy: does this help them raise money? >> absolutely. they have been raising money on their hatred of donald trump. this is a huge part of that they can take to their base. we have to pause, too. this is where i think nancy pelosi is right. you have to look at how something like impeachment affects the psyche of this country. we are at the cliff edge. you impeach a president or start

those proceedings seriously. you would have to watch it happening. kennedy: i dislike stressful movies. i hope this doesn't happen. >> the democrats just had a huge win last week. kennedy: get some good ideas. peter, anthony and krir step, we'll see you later in the show. did jeff sessions scon extra detective himself? it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does.

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kennedy: turn general receive sessions could be in a bit of a pickle after yesterday's testimony. two separate times this year he denied of knowing of any contacts between the trump campaign and russia. he said he never remembered george papadopoulos discussing the russians. he said his memory came back to him after it was revealed in the paper. >> i did not remember this before my testimony of a few weeks ago. i pushed back against his

suggestion. kennedy: he's saying he didn't remember the meeting prior to being reported in papadopoulos' guilty plea and he says he pushed back against the president meeting with putin. joining me now, senior editor for the "national review" jonah bold berg. jonah, i don't think the attorney general did as well as he had before congress in the past? >> i think you are right. i think it was a bit of a hot mess. but when you are in a messy situation, it's difficult to get clean even when you are trying to get out of it. he made a mistake when he initially forgot that meeting with papadopoulos.

but whenever you have to correct the record, it's difficult and it makes you look like you are lying or forgetful or covering something up. and he's in a bad place on all those fronts. i don't think it rise to the level of perjury. whatever russia tried to do with the trump campaign. i thought only person they surely never tried to flip was jeff sessions. i credit sessions for telling the truth when he says the campaign was chaotic and a mad house. it strikes me the campaign was like a moving cable news green room. puff people showing up, social climbers and losers. kennedy: or manafort and carter page. they are attracted like moths to a stinky lamb.

>> carter page is the cato caelyn of the trump presidency. jeff sessions is a serious button down guy. saying shut up, kid, i am not impress bid your ties to russia then forget being it five minutes later. kennedy: were there people going other places? we focus on russia as though that whether only topic of conversation. but i want to know were there other countries reaching out to the campaign for the very same reason? people want to get into the fox news room or green room? >> that's a good question. it's like announcing in vegas at ceasar's palace the all you can eat buffet will be free. all sorts of people will show up. i think a lot of people showed

you have on the trump campaign because they have realized it was an opportunity. kennedy: i think attorney generals are never popular. >> it sounds like jeff sessions lost the president's confidence a long time ago. >> i think it president is being unfair to jeff sessions. but he's his attorney general. mitch mcconnell wants to launch a write-in campaign trying to get jeff sessions to take back his senate seat it's so tom wolf novel. kennedy: i don't have a problem with that scenario. he's bad on civil libber toughs, but he was never band from malls

as being a creeper. thank you for your time as always. very good. coming up. a congresswoman says sexual harassment is ram pants and victims have even been groped on the house floor. wait until you hear how much money she says has been spent on settlements. that's next. whoooo.

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kennedy: we are finding a new public figure at the center of a sex scandal. it turns out the government spending your money defending these idiots. and we don't know who they are. expire told nbc news the house paid out $15 million in settlements over the last decade. it also includes racial and religious discrimination. paul ryan says he's going to require all members of congress to under go sexual harassment training. welcome back, kristen. we don't know who these

lawmakers are yet. but we know the government has paid out $15 million. do you finds it odd there is a sexual harassment detente among parties where if one finds out the other they would make it public as soon as possible. >> sometimes dig up dirt is a good thing because it's bad for people to have dirt. i mean things like mistreating women. i don't mean you paid your properties tax bill a week late. normally in politics the incentives are to go after people of on the other side who are doing bad things. this something that is so pervasive and norms have led to a mutually assured destruction. you never know what kinds of ugly stuff, rocks getting

overturned on your side. who the bad guys are on your team. but i think the harvey weinstein story kicked off a whole raft of thinking. you are seeing liberals coming out saying they regret their behavior. so the norms are change really fast. the other thing that's sad about this story. this was $15 million of taxpayer money. $15 million is so small you don't notice it in the federal budget. fit was a private company, it would get noticed. but the financial statement for the united states government is so enormous, $15 million is nothing. kennedy: you have presented towards who are supposedly constrained by ethics and supposed to be centered if they do things like this.

and their errors made public. why isn't that happening? >> that is a big question here. i am unfamiliar with the nature of these particular settlements. but i'm hoping what will happen is in many cases in the past when women were harassed they were uncomfortable naming names. when you do that. people judge you, people not believing you. i am homing that when men do bad things to women women feel more comfortable calling them out publicly so people can know exactly what kinds of people they are voting into office. kennedy: the makers of the game, cards against humanity.

they want to make it as time consuming as possible to allow the president to build the wall. nothing says you are worried about racism against mexicans. is cards against humanity just playing games? the party panel returned. kristen, i will start with you. is this just a stunts? >> it's a hi various stunt. i have never laughed harder in all my life than playing cards against humanities. it's most of live liberal millennials and maybe a few gerks n-xers. it's a promotion for the holidays. the government oppose something so there is a business.

people who want to waste money, they are being empowered to change something. kennedy: eminent domain could slow down the construction of the border wall. >> i have done a lot of work on eminent domain and it's cute that they have a lawyer that specializes in eminent domain. but i haven't seen a laureate that can stop eminent domain. so i support the stunt, i support on its merits and theatrics, but i don't know it can stop the wall. kennedy: what will stop the wall? >> normal politics. it will cost $70 billion to build. there will be cost overruns. the wall is the dream kitchen.

we'll throw some drugs over. no throwing drugs over. it would be invisible. it would be made of concrete and steel. you will never get that thing built. kennedy: you never get the spigot to fill your pasta pot. you always have to go to the sing. some day, that's the border wall. what's frustrating for a lot of americans who feel strongly about immigration. this is political theater. and now this kind of reaction is also political theater. it's fine and we can laugh at it. but at the end of the day, this an actual issue. immigration reform needs to happen. there does need to be increased border security.

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