i don't think trump might come up, you never know, i'm fine if it does. i'm thankful not to go to an airport. stuart: last thing i want to do now is head to an airport, forget it. i don't have to do that i'm driving elsewhere. neil, it's yours. neil: i thought you travel private jet. [laughter] neil: thank you very much, have a good one, guys. meanwhile it is the dash to get out so we have a live shot, fort lauderdale, we also have new york, more thanksgiving travelers, now we have seen since 2005 51 people will be traveling and all my luck on the road in the same moment. travelers are anticipating some brisk weather. some parts of the country could get snow. warmer when you head more out to the midwest and west.

the backdrop, the strong economy, that is leading to a surge in travel, period, but tax reform doesn't go through then what? let's go to scat martin who has been crunching numbers on the then what possibilities, what happens then, scott? >> neil, i think we see a pullback and i think we see a pullback and a -- surely equity prices, anticipation of tax reform, regulatory reform to some degree we have seen and equity prices have responded positively and you're also going to see pullback in consumer spending. the nice thing going forward for us is the following, 401(k) balances are on record, great year that makes you confident and probably more confident in your job than a year or two ago, that's likely going to make you take out the wallet as you go to holiday spend, without fax reform, that momentum likely doesn't continue. neil: a couple of different

reads on this. you're probably taking them all in. morgan stanley saying, you know, to a point we have been debating, be careful what you wish for because the boom or the buck many anticipate they would get from tax cuts doesn't materialize, short-lived sugar high and after that things dissipate a little bit, do you agree with that? >> to some degree, yeah, with respect how it affects equities, neil, the markets are the best leading indicater around. but i will tell you what's interesting of the notion of whether this is all going to happen for us americans with respect to tax reforms, you have a treasury department now that's receiving record revenues from the american taxpayer for a couple years running now, so the money is there, we've given our share in and so it's about time we get some back and it's about time the capital gets treated well on the business side with respect to corporate tax rates

which are the highest in the world which need to come down, pass-throughs and the like and so if you see those things improved, you will see this equity market rally continue. neil: you remind there had about the fax impact and certainly on states where they have high taxes already, we won't know the final details for a while. i talked to the democratic senate present of new jersey and he's telling he and governor elect, full run of legislative and executive table in new jersey, they can force whatever they want on the state, but they're not too keen now in this environment raising taxes on billionaires or millionaires' tax that would take it more than just millionaires because that same group can't write that off as they have or supposedly have not in the past and might not in the future. what you make of that? first time a state could be responding to anticipated action on that deduction?

>> it appears they are getting some religion, doesn't it? , it's about time, neil. the millionaires' tax as you branded it a tax on say productivity and profitability in a state. i will tell you what is dangerous from the standpoint of the fact that those are the very people, those are the very businesses, my friend that can pick up and leave. illinois, i love this state, the weather is not so good but i do like the state, i do like the city of chicago, do you know what's going on here, my friend, wisconsin, indiana, iowa, they are putting ads on tv, around the state of illinois that thank the state of illinois for all the budgetary problems they have because businesses are picking up and leaving the state of illinois and going to neighboring states, that kind of thing will happen in new jersey, california. neil: the threat of that happening in new jersey, i mean, in this northeast area of new york and connecticut, they are all roughly the same when it

comes to outrageously expensive tax states. but it's different, i guess, in illinois. >> yes, it is already happening, i will tell you what they've done in response, they have raised taxes both individual and corporate side. that's the thanks they get. that's the reward that you actually get higher taxes because of the fact that the state can't get their budget deficit in order, at least budgetary plans in order, so they need to change the messaging, they need to get more appropriate for the individual taxpayer, for the businessman or women and therefore you'll see economic growth come back in the states but if they keep going the way they are going with higher taxes and more regulations in states like illinois, you'll see more people leave. neil: wow, i'm thankful for you. i'm thankful for expertise, priceless edition, so scott,

thank you, have a great thanksgiving. >> i'm thankful every day for you, my friend. neil: if you can add to that, it would really help. scott, seriously, very good job. meanwhile the president is busy working the phones on tax reform and also busy on twitter. blake berman has the latest and all of the above. blake: the white house on the day says the president will continue pushing for tax reform, a white house official saying that the president is going to be speaking with lawmakers, in fact, the president earlier today in a tweet who said he would be, quote, working the phones, howevers a tweet earlier today that the president seems that he just can't get off of a topic that he can't get off of and that is lavar ball, the father of one of the ucla basketball players that was caught in china shoplifting, 5:25 this morning on the east coast from florida when the president sent out the following tweet at 5:25, quote, it wasn't the white house, it wasn't the state department, it wasn't father lavar so-called people on

the ground in china that got his son out of a long-term prison sentence, it was me, too bad lavar is just a poor man's version of don king but without the hair. the president also then went onto call lavar ball, quote, ungrateful fool. president took aim at the national football league earlier today with report as well which suggests they might have players stay in the locker room next year when the national anthem will be played. the president got after goodell, working tax reform down there in florida, he's also on tweeter a bit, at least this morning. neil: don king was a little humor. blake: at 5:00 something in the morning. neil: that won't get in the way of tax cuts. thank you, blake berman, have a happy thanksgiving. do twit errants hurt or help the

president when getting votes necessary for tax reform? maybe they are just a distraction. let's ask former george w. bush ron christie, ron, the laughing, notwithstanding, i just think not necessary, not adding anything, not presidential, i hear from the never trumpers who railed against me for saying that but it's just how i feel, what do you think? >> hey, good afternoon, neil, it's counterproductive. the president at the united states can only afford 52-48 split in the senate, he can only afford to lose one or two senators and when he takes to twitter and he does what he does, you find a lot of people on the senate that are part of the club, they they this is counterproductive, in fact, they think it's demeaning to their members and it doesn't help him. politics is about addition not subtraction and i think the president is reducing the amount of vote that is he is going to get for tax reform bill rather

than adding to the slim margin that he needs for success. neil: i'm just wondering whether -- i was mentioning about the odds passing in the senate, i know republicans that can't love this opportunity, you and i know they have blown opportunity here and furthermore i don't know if they do blow this opportunity whether it's damaging to them because a lot of folks looking at tax cut who say it's not beneficial, morgan stanley with this report saying that it could give a short-term pop to the economy, i think they called it nicotine or sugar high, we are back to kind of so-so growth. what do you make of that? >> well, two things, one i think this is a very significant list for the president and the congress to get this over finish line, neil. they are going to have a lot of problems reconciling. let's just assume they get the votes in the senate, they will have to reconcile through what's called a conference committee between the house bill and the senate bill. i have a hard time believing

they'll be able to pull that off, number one, number two, i'm not quite so certain that they will get republican lawmakers in pennsylvania, new york, california, to vote for this thing because a lot of their constituents are telling them, this is going to hurt me, this is going to hurt my ability to sell my home, this is going going to hurt ability to send my kid to college, i'm not quite convinced that republican's tax reform is such a good thick that a lot of the leaders in washington are telling us that it is. neil: let's say that happens and it is shot down, the -- the argument is republicans are finished then next year's midterms, what do you think of that? >> well, the republicans in the senate at least are in a good shape but they have only a handful of seats to defend, the democrats have to defend 25, let me tell you something, neil, we have the largest republican majority since 1929, if we can't get health reform done, tax reform done, i think the democrats have a very strong

narrative to say, why trust a republicans, they couldn't get it done, trust us again. neil: you know, are you surprised republicans haven't been benefited from improving markets, improving economy, from the personal wealth and optimism surveys which are at or near multiyear highs, on paper at least they should be, you know, ruling the world and then again paper last year they were going to run away with it, i'm surprised that republicans aren't getting more of a follow-through with just that? >> the mets and nationals on paper -- [laughter] >> let me tell you this, neil, we are squanding a historic opportunity. not only on paper should we be looking great, we should be looking great by means and deeds, we should be sending legislation to the president that he should be able to sign that makes good on these promises.

as to how we cannot govern as to how we cannot keep our promises is astounding to me. the house of representatives has largely done their work. paul ryan has shepherd through a lot of good piece of legislation , come on, mitch mcconnell. yet, neil, seems to me they have a very strong chance of blowing this if they don't wake up. neil: yeah. ron christie, thank you, very, much, former 43 bush special assistant. no one is perfect. we've got this uber hack attack, you probably heard already, the one thing that stuck with me on this is the delay at finding out. not just a few months, try more than a year. does that ring a bell? is it happening now somewhere else and we don't know it because this keeps happening and i won't stand for it.

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is requesting hearings, i'm telling you, game over. what happened first off? >> well, first off, 50 million customers globally had a lot of information hacked, i'm going to go down clearly what was hacked ant what wasn't. names, emails, phone numbers and then of the drivers some drivers' licenses, what was not hacked, no social security numbers, no credit card information and no trip location details. so, you know, uber since 2009 has had very uncomfortable relationship with regulators, they have done a lot of stupid things that's why they have the new ceo. neil: this was in the first management. >> ceo travis kalanick, who was led out of the door. he does have seat on the board but at best in the kindness of terms people said he did not

have the maturity to have the position of ceo, at worst people said he doesn't understand ethics as the average person would. neil: but here is the question, this is not the first company to be caught up in something like this and we find out about it months, in this case more than a year later, we all know the targets. >> sure. neil: how did they explain the delay -- >> the difference is travis kalanick, the former ceo paid off the hackers, right. neil: 100,000 to make it go away. >> keep it to yourselves that you got this information, we are going to pay you the money and then hid it, normally also a company is supposed to go to the ftc, supposed to go to state ag, alert authorities, right, so that even that hacker can be brought to justice or at least try. neil: now everybody and uncle is looking into it. illinois and massachusetts are the latest ones?

>> but the point is at the time when the hack happened, october 2016 the then ceo travis kalanick not only did not alert authorities but he actually paid off the person who did this the $100,000. you watch a murder mystery, it's not somebody that you kill but what you did to cover up. it's one more piece of evidence that honestly travis kalanick was not ready to be ceo. neil: that's a new wrinkle here -- >> right. if you hack into my bank account, i'm not going to pay you to keep that quiet. neil: okay. >> my weekend plans. neil: thank you, have a great thanksgiving. gerri willis with fallout of fcc move. they are doing a 180, why don't you explain it?

>> plans to reverse obama era internet rules, providers to treat traffic equally, the plan goes to a vote next month and pai says the change is necessary because the rules con train investment on the web and prevented companies from innovating, this is what he told our very own kennedy. >> part of the reason why we said that these regulations are misplaced, there wasn't a market failure here. it's not like the internet was broken in 2015 and we were living in digital utopia. the best way to do that is to ensure that everybody has the freedom to pursue a business plan that will serve consumers well. >> some say there could be downside, consumers in less than a quarter of the country have access to two or more internet providest, limited competition could make for higher prices or even price gouging, also pull

get away the rules could mean that gateway companies come past, at&t put content rivalling providers. under the proposed rules internet service providers will be able to block, throttle or prioritize web content as long as they publicly disclose that they do so. the federal trade commission would then be able to take action against providers if they're found to be engaging in anticompetitive behavior. now the plan which is set for a vote on december 14th is expected to pass and republicans hold three of the fcc's five seats, the decision would hand a victory to providers such as at&t and comcast. neil, back to you. neil: very good reporting, have a good thanksgiving. gerri willis. despite nfl protestors, very few are protesting, now less than 1%, nevertheless a new idea

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neil: all right, to say that they are getting ready for the macy's day parade in new york city and have been all this week to make sure that it is safe is probably understatement, security everywhere, partitions set ul earlier than they -- earlier than they are usually set up. this is playing across the country wherever public places are going to be enticing crowds specially after thanks giving with the happy rush day or doing their upmost to make sure they are safe. we will keep an eye on that. efforts across the country to keep everyone safe and as well not only this weekend but through holiday season. we are hearing in washington

post that nfl owners are considering a solution on this national anthem thing, keeping players in the locker room for it. never mind the fact that fewer than 1% participate in this by kneeling national anthem or sitting it out, the president is saying that the solution is worse than the issue it's addressing. former nfl player jack brewer, what he makes of this. good to have you back, what do you make of this? i thought this was dying down and they added to it by doing this? what do you think? >> yeah, you know, it is a tough one, roger goodell, the entire league are in tough situation, like you said before, neil, such a small percentage of players that actually kneel every sunday. the men in the national football league respect this country most stand for the flag and that's just, that's facts, you know, i actually agree with what the

league is doing right now. 10-15 years ago when i played, we didn't come out for national anthem. there's nothing wrong with hanging a flag in the locker room, you can honor the flag anywhere, you don't need to be displaying -- neil: that's interesting, jack, when you were playing this wasn't requirement, but it wasn't a feature that all players were out of national anthem? as long as you can remember, you're watching a game or something i would see players out there for the national anthem but that's recent phenomena? >> yeah, no, it's more recent. if you look at particularly early 2000's, you know, i remember definitely a lot of college games where we weren't out in the sidelines, that started coming in probably mid-2000's, either way, the national anthem and the flag, if you want to respect the flag, you can hang up a flag in the locker room, you know, you can do that as a team. you know, the same with praying, i mean, most teams get together

and bring themselves together in prayer before they go out to play a game, so i think we are overpoliticizing a lot of this. i don't think it's as big of a deal as we try to make it. at the end of the day, let's show respect to our flag and , you know, the president saying in this thing he wasn't a fan of this measure, and then we're mentioning at the outset a handful of the players are doing this every week or whatever. is it wise for him to get involved in this? >> you know, i think he rallies his base, and i think that's why he continues to do it, you know? we all know that the national anthem is near and dear to our country. i mean, even though, you know, it has some roots that we don't necessarily want to identify with. i mean, our country has some roots that sometimes we don't

want to necessarily identify with. i think, you know, times like this, we're able to have these discussions and conversations. but we have matured as a nation. we've approved it as a nation. i think there's more opportunities these days than there was, you know, 20, 30, 40 years ago. neil: then what happens at these meetings, jack? if the owners are talking to the players, i'm sure something comes up where the owners will remind the players, look, whatever you think of this national anthem, i'm telling you. it's killing attendance at our games. take a look around these stadiums. they're not full no matter whether we're playing at home or visiting. pick your team. and you guys know how this is all parceled out money-wise. have they had those discussions just a real meeting about money and the impact it's having? >> yeah. the owners had a meeting a few weeks ago. and i think they spoke with a number of key players. and, you know, it's clear, neil. players are paid when we have

bigger tv contracts. players are paid when the league makes more money. we have our collective bargaining agreement has escalated every year because of that, and it's a constant battle over revenue. so all of those things have to be taken into account. you know, if the revenue numbers are down and viewership is down because of the flag, keep the guys in the locker room, you know? let's start building back the league because, you know, a lot of these players are coming from families and communities where these contracts that they're getting are life changing not just for them but for their entire family and communities. so at the end of the day, that's what has bothered me behind this. the nfl changed my life and gave me resources to help my family as well. and so i don't want to see that go away. and the players need to get over that and understand that this is a business at the end of the day and the national owners have to make a good business decision. neil: you can be a fox business anchor.

you sound so capitalized here. i want to talk about gerri jones dropping his lawsuit, but still angry. wants to stay on rodger goodell, whether he deserves a contract extension or one of this eye-popping magnitude. the owners obviously breathing heavy on him. what happened? >> the fact of the matter is back in may, jerry jones approved the compensation committee to go ahead and push along rodger goodell's contract. neil: unanimously did. all the owners did; right? >> every one of them did. neil: right. >> but, you know, whe when elliott got suspended, jerry jones didn't like that very much and jerry jones doesn't like to lose, you know? but this time, i think earlier had to take a seat this time because he already passed that and let that rule go by in regards to the compensation committee.

so he doesn't have a leg to stand on at this time. neil: are you worried that the nfl might not have much of the future or that its heyday has come and gone? >> i am concerned. i'm not just concerned about the national anthem protest, neil. but, you know, more serious issues like player safety. colleagues from the national football league suffering from traumatic brain injuries. and cpe, and you may have just seen last week they actually found the first diagnosis of cte in a living person and those types of things can change the game because players know they have cte, at some point the government has to step in from a safety perspective. especially minors.

. neil: there was another player who didn't want his son playing pop warner football. >> it's a tough sport, neil, but it's a good sport. it teaches men how to play discipline and a lot of other great things. so i don't want to not get too much. but it is one i don't want my son playing. neil: wow. that's wild. jack, thank you very much. hope you have a great thanksgiving. >> same to you, neil. thanks again. happy thanksgiving. neil: all right. we have a lot more coming, including new allegations now concerning congressman john conyers on this issue of harassment, and they want to look into that. congress wants to look into that. it's also dealing separately with this issue with senator al franken, separately this issue of roy moore, should he get elected senator from alabama. what are they going to do about that with him? can you say kind of connotation going on here? after this.

. neil: all right. this one at first confused. my producers had to explain it to me. they plan now to try to let users know if they, the users were following russian pages during the election season. it's their way of saying all right. well, we know what you're getting. we know what you're retrieving. we know what you're looking at, and just to let you know, we know that now you should know, and we're going to keep track of this, which is kind of weird because that just invites a whole new host of issues here. we'll get into that a little bit later. in the meantime, three service men are still missing. the navy plane crash in the pacific could have been a lot worse, though. fox news producer lucas on the latest. lucas, what do you have? >> neil, it has been 12 hours since the crash hundreds of miles out to sea while flying out to the aircraft carrier u.s. ronald reagan in japan. points to a engine failure.

u.s. soldiers aboard rescued eight sailors less than an hour of the crash. the search effort continues although, hampered by darkness since it is well past midnight in japan. the crash occurred about 575 miles southeast of japan in the philippines sea wednesday afternoon local time. the japanese military also assisting in the search for the three missing sailors. this crash comes two days after a air force training jet crash injuring one pilot and killing another in texas. crashes are up 38% this year compared to the same period a year ago. a cargo plane that delivers passengers and supplies including the mail to those over sea. it's scheduled to be replaced by the v22 in the next few years. this is the election action from the japan -- navy's japan base seventh fleet. over the summer, two separate collisions uss fitzgerald and

john f mccain killed 17 american sailors. and once more, there was another mishappen over the weekend near japan involving a seven-fleet ship. a japanese tugboat lost propulsion and jumped into a destroyer causing minor damage. thankfully this time, there were no injuries. neil. neil: all right. lucas, thank you very, very much. in the meantime a second woman now is accusing john conyers for harassment. taxpayers are footing the bill for about $17 million in these. it's your tax dollars here they're using to do so. washington examiner and white house correspondent on all of this. first of all, on conyers, what are we learning now from the second accuser? >> well, there's a second woman who worked for him back in 2006 that alleges he treated her inappropriately during the years of 2015 and 2016 saying that he would frequently come over to her desk, massage her shoulder,

make inappropriate comments to her with be ask her to go back to his house with him and when she attempted to confront him about the situation, confront his chief of staff about these incidents, she was pretty much just hushed and those things were swept under the rug. and i mean, you know, this is grotesque behavior for anybody, but especially a member of congress to be engaging in, and it's the second time we've seen allegations against congressman conyers. but i think the bigger scandal here is that this hush fund exists in congress, and it's being paid for by american taxpayers and virtually reduces all accountability for people who are on capitol hill when we can't know who is or isn't making settlements for sexual assault allegations. neil: the weird thing about these settlements, though, gabby, if i understand them correctly is congressman -- or conyers case was one of them was, yeah, it was paid but no wrongdoing on my part.

i'm oversimplifying here. yet, a settlement was made for some undisclosed sum. so what are the provisions attached to these checks that are issued to women who complain about being harassed? >> well, it would seem because most women who come forward are anonymous or unwilling to or perhaps unable to speak on the record about these allegations that perhaps they are forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement, that they are forced to, you know, keep these details of these settlements quiet and under the rug. we do know that the amount for that first settlement was $27,000, which conyers press office has said was basically in the form of a severance package. but still. i mean, this is happening, you know, it could be happening every day. and because this fund exists and because of the secrecy surrounding it, we don't know which members of congress have

made settlements with interns, with staffers, with other members of congress, and we don't know how much and when these settlements occurred. . neil: but when i hear those in leadership on both sides saying they don't know anything about them, must. i mean, obviously, it has been set up, it's an institutional privilege given to these guys to use. and yet, it's like i don't know anything about it. >> yeah. and neither do paul ryan or nancy pelosi. i mean -- neil: how is that possible? >> i -- that is a good question, neil. it's absolutely bizarre that congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle are unaware of these settlements being made or how this fund is operating. and i do think that it's something that needs to be addressed. and there are a number of questions that need to be answered in the coming weeks about this. and for any member of congress going forward who says that they stand on the side of the accusers or that they want to

protect women or even male staffers in the halls of congress to oppose the ending of this hush fund means that they really can't be taken seriously because i think this eliminates all accountability. neil: abbey, great reporting. thank you very, very much. obviously, you're on top of it. >> thank you. neil: but wow, that's a shocker. here's a shocker too. 4,500 calories. apparently, it's up to that we can consume in a single meal. childs play, america. i can triple that by not even getting to the main course. but apparently, there are alternatives here. and tony little, this guy has made a career out of getting people, everyone to stay. he doesn't eat. he just constantly works out. and now he's urging me to do the same. i'm here to tell you that is so not happening but tony little is. after this

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. neil: this is an interesting statistic. that we as americans consume up to 4,500 calories over thanksgiving dinner for one dinner. naturally if you're like me, a if i sayness buff, you're probably wondering how do i

burn it off? i want to go to my buddy, tv personality tony. he's very inspirational with the words he says, not only the workout. but, tony, very good having you go. thank you for coming. happy thanksgiving. >> thank you for saying that i don't eat. . neil: i'm just trying to figure out how you stay so fit. i guess it's calories in, calories out. >> and exercise. neil: yeah, i keep hearing that. now, tell me what you recommend. a lot of people are going to eat big time tomorrow. what do you tell them? >> handcuffing and puffing for the stuffing. neil: well, maybe. yeah. >> no, what i'm saying. listen, you know what? it's carb loading; right? a lot of people understand carb loading. thanksgiving's carb loading. and the temple theory five days a week, your body's at temple. two days a week, it's amusement center.

that's the best way to eat or exercise. now what you have is thanksgiving but everyone's forgetting what's the second amusement day? leftovers; right? we all have leftovers. you're saying recognize the obvious, it's one of those carnival days, whatever, but you're to get back on the stick. so what do you do? >> well, when you get back on the stick after you've had your carb loading on thanksgiving, and you've had your leftovers on the next day is you go back to the gym. you go back to the gym like you normally would, you know, isn't you do your normal workout, but you have to do at least 30 minutes of cardio,and if you really want to burn cal arise, then do all large muscle groups. instead of arms, do your chest, instead of doing your calves, do your legs. do all large muffle groups so it will drive massive calorie burning.

neil: so does it count if you just pick up a heavier tv remote versus a lighter tv remote? no? >> if you could put it with one arm and go like this. neil: right. >> and then switch it to the other arm and go like this. neil: exactly. >> possibly. neil: possibly. i just want to know how flexure. what do you do? do you -- your mont metabolism must be like a rocket anyway. but furthermore when you're with your family, do you rip them, do you tell them after this, you should run five miles or what? >> no. you know, i'm not hard on anybody on that. it's thanksgiving. everybody out there should be celebrating it. and the pilgrims who brought us everything. but i think you should eat. again, i see no big deal about consuming 4- 5,000 calories on one or two days of the year that is very important to us. it's just carb loading to me. neil: you say it's acarb

loading but turkey is a big part of that, protein is a big part of that. do you not have any of that stuff? >> yeah. of course i do. i mean, my favorite thing -- obviously, it puts me to sleep like everyone else. let's face it. everyone's immediately sleep after a thanksgiving dinner on the floor all over the house. so -- but i get out later, and i start to drink a little bit of caffeine, get myself back up a little bit, go outside, play with the kids, get active again, and then i hit the pumpkin pie later at night. neil: you know, they've got all sorts of new products for thanksgiving. i guess every year we see variations of this. i don't know if you heard about the cheetos folks that's smashed turkey with cheetos all over it. that must be a charmer. and then pringles has these various flavor-related pringles. what do you think of that kind of stuff? i mean, you're not into the junk, junk food; right? >> no. i'm not into the junk,

junk food. i mean, that's nontraditional; right? that's just a marketing campaign to get somebody to eat something that they're already eating bad anyway. and now you have a reason to eat it bad on thanksgiving or another holiday. it's all marketing. neil: you not -- is there one thing that -- go ahead, yeah. >> you see me pulling this in-n-out all the time? . neil: yes, i do. >> that's exercise. neil: let's exercise. let me see what i can do. let me step my check count. it doesn't count as a step, but it's very, very close. it's very, very close. what do you think americans are doing right now? i mean, i know it's obesity epidemic still exists. i know you have worked very hard to get americans to figure out what they're doing and live longer. you actually walk the talk here. but it's still a problem for this country, isn't it? >> it's a huge problem for this country. i mean, huge.

and i don't mean just in people, it's -- it's just gigantic. but, you know, it's also there's a lot of stress out there right now and stress also causes people to eat, so you have to reduce your stress. listen, i believe in exercise. i believe i'm more creative after i exercise. i believe that i'm destressed after a exercise. i believe that by increasing my lean muscle tissue, i actually can eat more because i'm upping my metabolism to burn calories more. so it's all -- there's huge advantage. exercise is medicine for people. and they should be taking it because, listen, it can make a difference in your business, it can make a difference in your family, it can make a difference in your health. . neil: now, do you have basic guidelines for exercise that you pass along to people? there's this big sort of cause in the american heart association try to get people to walk at least 10,000 steps during the course of the day. others are saying, hey, we have to up that to 15,000 steps. the big thing is movement. a lot of these doctors say you just have to move. you have to move. what do you say?

>> i agree with the doctors. you just have to move, you know? listen, if you're going to spend all of your time just lying on a couch in front of a television, then you're going to reap the rewards of that, which aren't very much of a reward, are they? >> yeah. you're right right? >> you have to get out and move. i just don't think you need to be hard-core. i think people aren't educated about the simple things that make a difference in their life. not only the walking but also elevating the walk, so you're bringing more muscle into it. a lot of people would walk, but when you up the treadmill elevation, you start to bring more thigh into it, more butt into it, and you're burning more calories. neil: preaching to the choir, everybody. fitness buff to fitness buff, it was like a bonding moment here. i felt it. i know you did. we'll have more after this building a website in under an hour is easy with gocentral...

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expressway. it is backed up at the moment, total travel for this year, the most since 2005, total of 50.9 million people, planes, trains and automobiles up 3% compared to last year. most of the people traveled by road, 45 million, it was pretty much 9 in 10 people travel on the roads. just as you point out, because of the economy. the factors on the busy travel, one a strong economy, robust labor market, 3, rising incomes, and 4, hire consumer confidence all contributing to it and all that stuff says we don't need the tax-cut anyway. we are doing fine, we blow that off and move on to the next thing. what do you think? neil: i don't think i am hearing a lot of that but it is a distinct possibility.

what is the busiest travel day, you told me yesterday was, but sitting in the middle of it, something was going on. >> reporter: trip advisor did a study on the or survey, people were spreading their trips out more than they have in the past. starting yesterday, flying and driving, it won't be as bad as a specific day. the sunday after, particularly at the airport everyone is coming back the sunday after and people got smart and in the middle of a mess. i want to plan my travel, stay until monday, come back saturday, that sort of thing. neil: it is in a new experience for you driving in the front of the car. usually you are in the back barking orders so it is a nice change. >> reporter: people in the back, i have the whole set up

in the back. i don't know what they are doing. the 20 they are putting their fate in your hands. i guess they do. they almost seem like hostages right now. 's jeff: i will child lock them. neil: i bet there is a. have a wonderful thanksgiving, good bunch all. meanwhile, travel by a car increases in the country, gas prices increase at the same time. gas prices, $.40 higher than they were last time. the highest since 2014, a petroleum analysis. what is going on here. >> prices are higher than last year. opec meeting after last thanksgiving much of the reason oil prices are so much higher today, back over $58 a barrel

close to multi-year highs, so many motorists love to think gas prices go up through the holiday wouldn't you know in the last week the national average is down a nickel with all but a handful of states saying their average price dropped. neil: glad i have you here. the phenomenon i noticed lately, the wider disparity between gas stations even in roughly the same neighborhood or town. it used to be i will say in lockstep with one another, very similar but it could be all over the map. it is it me seeing something unusual? what is going on? >> you are exactly right. it is off the charts. we call that the spread, difference between the chief station and the most expensive. i look at a few cities in michigan, the cheapest stations and most expensive were $.70 a gallon difference. it gotten out of hand, some were due to a -- $2.29.

$2.99 a gallon, good reminder black friday, shop around for deals on big screens but shop around at the pump. of the 20 i thought when i see it outside a gas station, surely they know the guy down the street, 40 or $.50 more than the cheaper place. people beautifully going because it was conveniently near a quick pick, a 711, usually i have seen them in the same range not even close. >> exactly. this is the time of year where you got to be careful when hitting the interstate this holiday season, going through a major city, crossing state lines you have a high propensity to pay more by doing so. not only are we all shopping around, so many people far distances, even when you get off the highway, one station

may charge more. a lot of money left on the table this year by consumers not doing that. adam: q, have a great thanksgiving. the president called on tax reform today, a battle in the senate. alaska republican senator lisa murkowski unlike susan collins of maine, would be open to a measure that would repeal the obamacare mandate, the requirement that people have health insurance, that is an anomaly. normally those two are in sync on things but not this. usa today that the liza collins on where this is taking republicans and whether they can limit to two no votes. that is what it would be. they have to keep it limited to that. >> they have to keep it limited to that and that is including a tiebreaker from mike pence, cannot go over and currently seeing some no votes from the more conservative wing of the

party. we have seen ron johnson already saying this doesn't work for small businesses and we have seen senators bob corker and jeff flake who are retiring and don't feel that they owe anything to donald trump, they are a little more fiscally conservative, they raised concerns so republicans need to wrangle the more conservative wing of the party, having someone like lisa murkowski on board or at least seeming like she is on board is helpful to the republican caucus. the 20 senator corker, a yes vote on a tax plan whether it makes sense or not, not whether i'm having differences, the bad blood between the president and john mccain is out there. what do you make of that? >> senator flake has said the same thing.

they will probably vote on the merits of the bill. they care more about the senate as an institution at a party and sticking it to donald trump, republicans need a win. there will be a lot of resentment of the party if they go against the bill just to had donald from. neil: they can argue back. in corker's case the deficit hawk, wait a minute, this goes beyond adding $1 trillion over the next we 10 years which was factored in and i think he was okay with that but he might just say the numbers don't add up and use that. >> there is a lot of spending in this bill and it could raise the deficit massively, you have fiscal hawks already and they don't really feel they owe anything to th president on their waout. that combinaon makes it more lily for them to be a noote raise concerns. neil: what is your gut on this? they want to get it done before

-- election in alabama, democratic senator too early to say, to avoid that, get it done by then, is that doable? >> doable but it is tough. we have seen the house past their tax bill so far, the senate finance committee, different from the house bill so the full senate has to vote on that. the conference where they reconcile the differences and vote on that bill. is two votes in a conference before december 12th. it is a tight timeline. it is possible. lou: like could lose 50 pounds too. thank you very much, happy thanksgiving. by now you heard about the huber hack, becoming aware of it but the same company that was entertaining, going public, right now the public is serious so bad timing.

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challenge it but if successful here's what media bankers tell foxbusiness, it will severely limit the number of buyers for time warner. time cannot merge with at&t, it will limit the number of buyers, you essentially take out all the distributors from potentially bidding on time warner. they also say, this is where it gets fascinating, a successful doj action with at&t says no deal, because we established precedent and don't want to fight it, could lead to renewed interest from 21st-century fox in buying time warner. if this doesn't go through, you could see what bankers are telling foxbusiness, rupert murdoch making another bid for time warner. which is a fascinating development because a couple years ago we walked away from bidding after initially proposing a deal. we should also check out bankers say cbs has expressed interest in time warner and

here's the interesting thing and here is why this plays into the hands, this really does her time warner if it doesn't go through and does play into our hands, cbs's hands, bankers are telling me tech companies are showing less interest in content that needs to be distributed through cable. they don't want to buy an hbo that they have to do negotiations with comcast to sell the product so that takes the tech guys out of it. the number whittled down to potential buyers of time warner to a couple players, we are on the list, cbs is on the list. i'm sure there are a few more i am forgetting but you have just gone from a slew of potential bidders to just a few, that really does stick it to time warner if this deal goes

through. and 21st-century presupposed on this doj lawsuit if that is successful, if at&t walks away saying they don't want to challenge you establish some precedent, we have a call out for 21st-century fox, they declined comment, cbs has not gone back to us, they don't want to bid on it anymore, this is going on on wall street. is clearly is a major upheaval on wall street in terms of tech media banking deals. it is unprecedented. now let's see what happens with the courts. neil: a lot are seeing heightened interest in their stock until this legal challenge coming back and forth and slowed that down a little bit. what you are saying is things might be delayed but not denied. >> i want to be clear where the bankers do all day, they match

make, based on what they can get done to get through the justice department's antitrust division. if you take out distributors from the list of potential bidders for time warner, is you say that tech is less likely to be a real bitter like facebook, google, apple, they want to be their own content and deal with any sort of negotiations with cable companies which they would have to do, you have taken the amount of bidders and putting 21st-century fox and cbs in a strong position to die twx, there's a lot of presupposing including at&t losing the quarter and walking away but that is where the scenario is heading and what pele are talki about. is is a fascinating developingstor maybe the biggest business story of the year asiderom tax reform is this deal and what it means for

the media business going forward. the gift that keeps on giving in terms of news. neil: tax cuts are bigger, thank you. huge. in the meantime we have illinois, massachusetts, new york, connecticut, the only ones, more could be coming launching probes into huber. what the company knew and when it knew it, who inspired it, trying to cover it up, $100,000 worth of payments to make it go away making it different from these other hack attacks that have become well-known. how big a deal will this be? >> pleasure to be here. this is a really big deal on the consumer privacy front for any company, a cover up for over a year would be unacceptable but for huber who has been under investigation for a data breach in 2014 they have had sec investigations against them, department of justice this is completely unacceptable and unforgivable. even though the amount of data,

look at $3 billion accounts, this is 57 million people we are talking about, people who use huber as customers, email addresses, names, drivers license numbers was the problem, why this is going to skip around is the ceo, travis copernicus was involved and the chief security officer helped in this cover-up, completely unacceptable. neil: if the hacker, to pay them off to an hack you, is that legal, i know companies do that, is that illegal. and what happens is the hacker, the fishing email attack, and encrypt the system until you pay up, cyber security experts

tell you don't pay them because then you are in a list as a pagan victim which is never good and you don't have guarantee they give the key back to the data, shut down the system to get back online. we are not certain this is ran somewhere, it is not illegal to pay, not illegal to pay. is it a good idea? depends what situation you're in and how quickly you can get back up and running for continuity purposes, here the problem is they covered it up. this payment last year was to pay off a bug bounty, they have one to lock out kinks in the system and they gave the money, companies do this all the time in the take industry to stay out of where cyberattacks are going. the cover-up keeps getting worse and worse and we are talking about issues on state and federal level, never mind the international effects as well. neil: a big deal could be not a

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looking like? >> things are clipping along, people have more money, ticket prices down 23% so air travel could push into record territory up 5%, we saw members of the swat team, houston, hobby and which airports are expected to have police officers with ar 15, none related to a specific threat but just the randomness of the threat in the new normal. it takes longer to go through tsa and that follows the inspector general's on it which according to media reports that tsa failed 70% of the time allowing things like fake guns and fake explosives to slip through checkpoints so expect there will be an emphasis on detection rather than efficiency that could involve taking anything larger than a

cell phone out of your bag. aaa is a website that posts when flight times will be busiest, a lot of cities, without getting too boring if you look at chicago the busy time will be 5:00, 6:00, la 315, 6:00 pm, the city is so nice they need it twice, 5:30 to 6:30 p.m.. one more note, despite imperfections with the tsa agents have picked up 3600 guns in people's handbag. and you are not supposed to bring it in your carry-on. people behind you are upset if you stop up the whole line. neil: over what period? >> picked up more in the beginning of november. adam: you. in the meantime increased security in manhattan getting ready for the macy's day parade. one of the bigger holiday

events, connell mcshane with the latest. connell: they are used to getting set for big events, what they normally do when there is a threat or threat of a threat against a large event like this, the mayor is quick to say bill diblasio, no known credible threats against the parade but a larger police presence and there has ever been before. if there were a threat involving from past years, going through what they do, 34th street, two uniformed police officers, that is by design. every block the parade runs, one police officer. and it will be more than that but every block, at least one. is an obvious concern with recent events including the

terror attack on halloween, and the world-famous macy's, the broadway performers, already performing tomorrow morning. and won't be able to tomorrow. the high buildings here, that is another concern. after what happened in las vegas, the nypd tells us look for sniper rooftop surveillance teams, heavy weapons teams, aviation is part of the effort. it is a larger effort and we have ever seen before but it is the same effort we have seen with big events in the city for years. when you think there's a threat or someone might make a threat you overwhelm it with as much force as possible. neil: thank you very much. much more, you might have a chance to listen to what connell was saying, when we chat about these things you

should be aware of your surroundings, if you see something say something. there will be a lot of crowds in new york, tomorrow a lot of crowds sticking around in the city and many others through the holiday season. so many people after this halloween attack in downtown manhattan who were leery coming to christmas, what do you tell him? >> it is interesting, you never want to panic anyone. americans and neil specifically, new yorkers are almost immune to panic, new yorkers are amazing, things happen in new york and people generally go about their lives but my best advice, a lot of military operators and law-enforcement people called the red zone, your heart will raise, got or been something

like this happen. a preplan escape plan. and a couple minutes to figure out what to do. by that time in the impact zone, it is too late. when you come into the parade know the quickest way out, how you go out and no panic, no need to panic, think through what you would do if god for bid you get out of. neil: what are you looking for when you look at the crowd? >> i look for hands. you can shoot or detonate an explosive, you are not superman with your laser beams and one thing with the secret service, eyeball don't shoot, hand do. i always look for hands. the law enforcement guy in me, hands and this is kind of a

blanket statement, general behavior that doesn't fit, it is not always indicative of someone willing to commit a crime, in the secret service event, sitting there like this, hand on knees and turned out it was the agent's family and told them don't do anything so they sat there. in a scenario like that everybody is clapping and cheering and you have someone generally looking around, looking down, they are sweating, it is 20 ° out, those are the things in addition to hands i keep my eyes peeled for. neil: this is coming at the same time the president have traveled and capes getting shot down in different times in different states, the justice department is urging the supreme court to settle this once and for all, a lot of these cases courts come back saying the president is targeting a group, what do you think of that?

>> this is the perfect subject to talk about. it is the holidays and we like later stuff but this is a serious topic. he was a recipe for disaster, you have a radical ideology, a bunch of countries on the travel ban list known to harbor some people, not all but some people who use this radical ideology as an incentive to kill people. you have a cottage industry especially in syria for things like fake passports, you have a group that has already pledged to infiltrate a refugee population with fake passports, finally to wrap up this poison potion here, you have a group that has already pledged to open source documents at this point to attack things like the macy's day parade, we trust in this travel ban, a reasonable concern, being able to vet them. complete political football completely and entirely onboard

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neil: you know what it is time for, octogenarian. millennials who we have had on the show all too often are trying a lot of new things that don't sit well with us traditionalists like flaming hot cheetos turkey and pringles unveiling thanksgiving flavored chips. don't ask but do tell. the country going to hell in a hand basket. elizabeth mcdonald, we have charlie gasparino, charlie

brady is so incensed, he rounded out the fantastic four on this. >> can't believe we are doing this. with ara 66 generation. they are disgustingly sick. look at what they are putting us through, this country, they are leading us -- neil: you do not like the cheetos turkey -- >> it is disgusting and violates all our traditions, people are so angry because millennials, there is no american spirit. neil: if they didn't have stuffing, people said you're doing was, putting what in the turkey? that was revolutionary. >> it was but it was something you can relate to like bread and butter. that is what stuffing is. >> yesterday when the shot of the turkey they were showing was horrible.

that was a millennial camera man or camera woman. neil: before the demo -- it is part of this countertrend to a lot of these established or traditional, something celebrated so it is a big deal. >> mixing up pringles chips too. neil: did you see the collection? liz: you knew it would be cranberry and cubed flavored. lauren: 1 like a metamucil. >> such a regular guy. liz: i don't care. >> know you wouldn't. not come near your mouth.

-- what you are celebrating, really celebrating. neil: celebrated with cheetos? >> people celebrating a harvest, what made the spirit that made america great, not trying to -- this is what america great. do what italians do. neil: crime against humanity is putting sausage in stuffing and oysters in stuffing. >> put sausage, my mother in law makes the best sausage stuffing, so good and doesn't put it -- neil: corned beef. >> the irish do that.

neil: these young people are getting reengaged together investing in homes again. some of them are not thinking marriage. >> the market top. neil: they are reengaged. >> may be they have been watching our show a little bit. >> to the extent that is true it has to be positive. i don't believe it is completely true. neil: buying homes? >> there is a weird stat. >> the faceless generation, it is not possible to have the relatedness -- >> weird stuff a growing number of 26 to 34-year-olds. well aware of that. >> living at home and watching us and we are rubbing off on some of them. warner: the chasing out of the house.

>> i am doing, charlie, charlie -- neil: how crowded the roads are today, what were you saying, your statistics are right but they acted like 2004-5, a lot of those are young people visiting their parents, not the ones who live at home with their parents been visiting. liz: all the stories who is going to fight at the dinner table tomorrow. people in my family, turkey if they would. if you fight on thanksgiving go to the children's table. warner: the young people express their mind. >> a phenomenal cook, lay down the law last year and do it again this year, no-trump talk, no politics. liz: do they not like the president? >> i have family members

obsessed with demand -- rich: julie: are a hater. liz: i would rather put my head in a ceiling fan they listen to that tomorrow. >> we are going to watch football, and going to eat and go to sleep and that will be the day. neil: video -- don't be sorry. >> there is kind of a serious note here. politics this year is very hard to be lethal. you can all be republican around the table and still hate one another. somebody loves mitch mcconnell, someone loves trump, you could be all democrats. neil: i love mcconnell. >> somebody will like the traditional -- neil: i understand that. >> same thing with the

democrats. neil: is a little goofy. >> the democratic tradition some people think hillary was what a shame we didn't elect her and other people say she cheated, thank goodness she is not -- people like a bernie. neil: gasparino table not talking politics. liz: we don't avoid it, people will talk politics. neil: they know where you were. they get angry at you and that fox. liz: i am used to it, it is fine, they are entitled to their opinion. it depends on the family dynamics, some families it is a bloodsport, they -- neil: you have written a book -- do you ever say that? something suspicious about you. what is happening when young people are saying we are

getting to invest again, buying homes again but particularly joining this market not across the board, just a few i talked to, i am sniffing around, maybe not joking, is that a market top? >> maybe to some extent. i don't think it is a market top. i really don't. >> when the dumbest investor class starts buying stock. neil: they are not for them investors. you were young once. i see. how did you feel? this woman -- men's the material. >> i was smart when i was young, i read a lot and worked hard and didn't have the silver spoon in my mouth, the whole thing. i earned what i got. liz: millennial's are working hard. warner: the they are working

very hard. >> the ones that serve in the military a brilliant, the one that go to school, college, a lot of them are snowflakes. liz: the 20 we have a lot of millennials on air, off air. >> the was the went to the military a brilliant, brave. a lot of the ones that went to college are snowflakes. liz: the fault of the university system? >> if they did that to me when i was a kid, all this sort of rampant speech codes, you can't say xy i would of went nuts, i would ever build and gun other people -- neil: got over it. >> i did get over it but something interesting, how pc this world is, my son goes to one of these pc schools, a graduate student who does research and he said we can't eat in town because i don't want them overhearing my conversation. he likes trump. his mother never voted for any republican. >> with scott adams?

>> the one that discovered trump before anybody like him. he said -- liz: where does he go to school? >> he is at princeton right now. my solution to everything is put a wall. neil: those princeton guys, have a wonderful thanksgiving with young people watching if you are still watching, finish those chores, more after this.

neil: amazon is ready to leverage the whole for the ownership to gain an edge on black friday. hillary von has more on that. >> reporter: you don't think about the newest tech devices in the bread aisle but that is what amazon is doing, bringing their devices to their whole foods location. the big idea behind amazon at $13.7 billion buyout wasn't just to get into the grocery store but to store brick and mortar hubs in neighborhoods across america and the latest move is the next step in the company as they integrate their online benefits in stores with amazon is in the process of rolling out their official rewards program using their existing annual amazon prime membership to give shoppers deeper discounts. on average prices were cut nationwide on holiday staples

like turkey, pumpkin and green beans by 20%. this thanksgiving may drop the price of turkeys one dollar but if you are in amazon prime member you get $.50 per pound on top of that but the plan isn't for whole foods to become your bargain big-box grocer. they want to be a lot more. they started selling their tablets in the store, turning into the physical retail arm of amazon but also doubling as a distribution center. you will see these amazon lockers popping up in every whole foods location. you can have your amazon order shipped for easy pickup and they return so you can go ahead and skip the post office but amazon's goal is to make the transition between in-store and online and the other part of the plan is to make it completely inconvenient to go anywhere else. neil: let me see if i got this. when you're dying tofu you can buy technology product at the same time? are those audiences that are

compatible? >> reporter: they want to make it a 1-stop shop. they have their technology here but want to make it sell, you come here sir everything so you don't get anywhere else -- come anywhere else. lauren: 1 we will see if it works, thank you very much in california. i want you to look at apple's current market. it is zooming like crazy. the cash pile is already $2 trillion. apple's share is half. about half. just one company and it is rocketing all the more after this. 0s right in the heart of the financial crisis, and saw his portfolio drop by double digits. it really scared him out of the markets. his advisor ran the numbers and showed that he wouldn't be able to retire until he was 68. the client realized, "i need to get back into the markets-

i need to get back on track with my plan." the financial advisor was able to work with this client. he's now on track to retire when he's 65. having someone coach you through it is really the value of a financial advisor.

neil: all right. we've been following this story all day here. but uber now saying that it has with the number of state attorney general for them now. there could be more. it's cooperating with them, cooperating with the fcc, other government authorities on this idea that the better of its 50 million customers accounts were hacked. a lot of the important private information gets into the wrong hands. you know the drill with that. but here's the thing. they knew about it a year ago. this all happened a year ago, and it was all covered up. now, the new management is saying that the old management paid offer the hackers better than a $100,000 to make the

problem go away. so there could be some legality issues here. bottom line, it is a mess. the markets right now a little less so. they're down about 65 points. but, again, volume very, very light, as is usually the case the day before thanksgiving. markets will be closed tomorrow, reopened on friday, of course. right now to trish regan. hey, trish. trish: thanks, neil. we're just seconds away from the release of the federal reserve last policy meeting. i am trish regan. welcome to the intelligence report. stocks trading a little bit lower, though, off the lows of the session as investors await these fed minutes. they'll basically provide some indication of what the central bank intends to do with its next interest rate hike. we're also watching for some fresh insight into the fed's thinking on the health of the u.s. economy, the job markets as we move forward into the new year, and it comes just days after federal reserve chair janet yellen announced her resignation. paving the way for trump nominee jerome pow he will to

kick off a there at the fed. let's go right now. we're waiting on these fed minutes to be released in just about ten seconds and adam shapiro is live at the federal reserve, and he has those for us right now. how is it looking there, adam? adam: on track for a december rate increase, but low inflation remains a big concern among members of the fomc and a topic of debate among the fomc about low inflation's impact on future rate increases next year. quote many participants observe that continued low readings on inflation. might reflect not only transitory factors but also the influence of developments that could prove more persistent. such consideration suggested that the removal of policy accommodation should be quite gradual. but the december rate increase quote several other members, however, were reasonably confident that the economy and inflation would have would evolve