words. and i believe next year we're going to see a lot more people than anyone could imagine right now understand just how grateful they should be for this president. pastor, thank you for being with us. we appreciate happy thanksgiving to you and to everyone. >> i'm dagen mcdowell in for kennedy. tonight, republicans unite over the tax plan and skeptical over the proposal. mr. robert waltz is here. plus, is hillary clinton really blaming president obama for her election loss? we'll have to explain that coming up. and tech companies behaving badly. uber and google in the spotlight for trying to pull a fast one on users. how can we fight back? all that and more. the gloves are off tonight on kennedy. ♪ ♪ . >> first tonight, texas.

say it like we hate it. as the white house and the gop leaders continue to push their plan for tax cuts, some firms on wall street appear to be growing skeptical. and that could spell trouble to president trump's signature issue. according to the washington post, bank of america economist are calling the republican proposal a quote fiscal sugar high for somebody who drinks mountai mountain dew, i kind of like that. morgan stanley claims any positive effects from the tax cuts would be short-lived and ahead of goldman sachs saying that the economy is doing well and tax cuts don't need to be a priority. so what would the tax cuts mean for normal folks? well, independent experts have been analyzing the senate bill and the predictions are clearly split along some partisan lines. the left-leaning tax policy center is out with a study that says under the first year senate plan, 9% of americans will see their taxes rise. 50% of americans will see their taxes go up after a decade. but the conservative tax foundation points out that the senate plan would lead to

higher wages, nearly 1 million new jobs, and enough economic growth to generate about $1.2 trillion in federal revenue. so who should we listen to? politicians, bankers, or the bean counters in dc? joining me now is former economic adviser to president obama fox news contributor robert wolf. we kind of have you wrapped up all in that. that's -- you're kind of all of those things. >> i am. >> and i mean that as a compliment. >> well, thank you. >> you didn't think they would get tax reform by the end of the year. you still stand by that? >> i stand by that and as you know, i'm for tax reform. i would have split it between business tax reform and personal. i think comprehensive is just too difficult, and i think that's what they're finding in trying to mix and match just doesn't work. you have a lot of people arguing why is corporate tax reform permanent and personal not permanent? >> that's where the 50% of people's taxes go up after ten years is because tax cuts expire. >> exactly. and then i also think we're

just in a situation where there's a misunderstanding about how corporate america works in many ways. just because you get more money, that doesn't mean you invest more money. okay? you can have -- do dividends. you can do stock buy backs. you only invest if there's an roi. >> return on investment. >> return on investment. so a lot of the corporate ceos are saying, you know, it's great if we get our taxes lowered. but as gary cohn found out when he asked how many ceos raised their hand when actually reinvested, there was a de minimis number in the audience. >> do you hear that that they won't invest? and would bump up the stock market and president trump would like that. but at&t ceo randall stevenson clearly not a fan of president trump now that the justice department is trying to put the kibosh on at&t buying time warner. but he said that 20 to 25%

corporate tax rate will make us step up our investment level. so are they not telling the truth? >> well, i think, first of all, the economy feels better globally today than when he made that statement. i actually do think that they will take the money and spend it hopefully on capital expenditure and people. but that being said, the economy has been doing a bit better on a global basis. and what i would say is one of the concerns that all of the corporate ceos had is debt and deficit. because at the end of the day, that impacts inflation, that impacts the economy, and if you recall when president obama was looking at tax reform -- >> well, he proposed 2012 -- >> 25% for manufacturing, 28% for corporate. >> and 2012 and 2013. >> but the fiscal, you know, hawks, mainly the conservative republicans, forced to be revenue neutral. which was fine, but you can't really do tax reform revenue neutral unless you take away some things. and that's why this is not tax reform. this current plan by the gop is just a tax cut.

we should just say what it is. it's a tax cut. >> it's certainly a tax cut on -- well, it's a tax reform on the business side somewhat because we do go to a territorial system and try and prevent some corporate tax shenanigans that go on now and a number of the tweaks in it. >> but i would review tax reform as impacting revenues. okay? and expenses. this is not impacting revenues. >> well, the tax foundation with we use that statistic if it raises revenue 1.2 trillion, that comes close to paying for it. >> yeah. what i would say. >> you're going to argue. >> well, no. listen, i'm a reagan democrat. i was brought up in wall street in the '80s. we all believe trickled down economics worked in the '80s. it's not the same today. when reagan was president, taxes were 70%. okay? corporate taxes were north of 50. it's just totally different, and it wasn't a global economy the way it is today. we have not proven. okay? in the last decade that trickled down economics has worked. so i'm a little more skeptical about that. that being said, be i think we

should simplify the tax plan. i would just do it separately. i would do business tax reform, i think you can pass it, and then work on the hard personal tax part. >> steve moore who worked with before the inauguration. >> both sides 32 advisers, and they both think it should be separated. >> that's a party over there, i tell you what. >> yeah. >> those are some fun people. >> a lot of arguing. >> good to see you. >> thank you. happy thanksgiving to you and everyone at fox. >> back at you, my friend. in the meantime, the prospects of getting the tax plan passed just keep getting murkier. a small number of undecided gop senators could ultimately decide its fate. according to reports, that includes bob corker of tennessee, jeff flake of arizona, and susan collins of maine, among others. the problem is every time gop leaders try to appease some senators, they risk alienating others. ron johnson of wisconsin says he's voting "no." and this is over the way small businesses are treated. and as we all know, they can't really afford any more

defectors. so will they unite? one of my favorite people walking on planet earth. she's a reporter for fox news headlines 24/7. she was in a cranberry field a little while ago. town hall.com editor guy benson, and former white house security counsel staffer jillian turner. >> her absolute favorite. >> yes. absolute favorite, and i like her hair better than yours, carly. >> she's got the best hair i think on fox news. >> it's so funny because i hate my hair. >> we all agree here that something that senators and the republican party got -- cannot. did they get this done? i can't imagine senator john mccain coming out and giving this thing a thumbs-up just because it would mean a victory for president trump. >> i mean, if that's the mentality of senator like mccain or susan collins or bob corker, that would be so petty. it would be throwing away a long-term victory and conservative goal just to

stick it to trump, and it would be just as petty, if not more so of trump being on a regular basis. i think that there's some positive signs on this. i'm not convinced that ron johnson is a hard no. i think he's saying no for now and moving. lisa murkowski -- it doesn't seem like you can take it to the bank that he's going to be voting against this thing. murkowski, who is a real pain on health care is making some noises that seem optimistic about certain elements of the plan. >> if she says it, she'll -- >> we're not there yet in terms of a whip count. but the republicans have to recognize they need to get something done. there's a lot in this bill to really like. it's time to finally govern like a majority. >> but murkowski says that it seems like she'll be a "yes" if they repeal the individual mandate that that's her condition for the -- >> well, she's okay with the plan of getting rid of the individual mandate, as long as they pass something else like a stabilization package to basically bail out insurers

because of the disruption that that would occur. if both of those are balanced out, she and possibly susan collins have indicated that they would get onboard for something like that. >> all politics is local, like personal relationships, but i want it, and i want it now. they all have these individual wants and needs, and i think it's disgusting to the american people, quite frankly. >> well, the other thing -- so let's say there's a christmas miracle and the senate passes their version of this bill. they've still got this massive uphill battle ahead with the reconciliation process because we're still left with a situation where the house and senate versions have some major, major discrepancies. i mean -- >> particularly with the state and local tax deduction and the senate plan. they completely do away with it on the house plan, they have -- right. they have the $10,00 $10,000 exemption for property taxes. but i think a bigger point,

carly, is that the senate and the house -- the republicans in both chambers do a horrible job of communicating this, and they do a horrible job of fighting back against the criticisms from the democrats. some of which will express. >> and some concerns that politicians are expressing now have been expressed for years and largely because of a lack of communication and inability to get things done. but enough about politicians. the american people are not completely onboard about this either. there's a recent harvard poll that says 54% of americans oppose this bill. a majority of conservatives agreed with the way that this tax bill was laid out. but small business owners are concerned. there's this overall sentiment that this benefits the rich over the poor. so also is president trump doing enough to get more people onboard? i don't really know if he has been. >> one thing is that part of the reason health care failed

according to capitol hill is that president trump didn't really have enough skin in the game. he did not go door to door like he should have to try to sell this to members and senators. i think he's tried to reverse course correct that error with this. he's been much more hands on in delivering tax bills on both sides of the aisle on both chambers. to both chambers. for everything -- >> you're making a face. >> 70 points. you don't think so? >> no. no. >> quickly. the 70-point plan that he had the white house come up with to deliver to the hill was, like, an opening show of, like, look. >> we're serious. >> we're serious about this. we put thought into it. >> yeah. and i think to your point about polling, there's reams of other polling showing that the major elements of the republican bill are very popular with the american people. what republicans ought to be saying constantly is that independent sources, independent analysts have found that the tax reform bill that just passed the house would cut taxes on average for every income group in america. >> right. >> that it will grow the economy, create hundreds of thousands of new jobs, and the

biggest one being 70% of americans right now file taxes and take the standard deduction. they do not itemize. >> and we get to double it for you, people. >> double standard deduction. that is at least 70% of americans automatically winners right off the top of this thing. republicans don't point that out. >> make it easier. we're going to increase your child tax credit, and we're going to double the standard deduction, and we're going to stick it to those liberals in those blue states. sorry. that's what they're doing. >> that's where you live, though. >> yeah. i'm sorry. i'm getting the -- never mind. >> twitter's going to be -- >> i am getting the -- moving on. speaking of -- well, hillary clinton, once said it takes a village to raise a child, but it's going to take several vigils to keep track of all the things she has blamed her election loss on. yesterday she went to excuse number 900 this time bringing president obama into the mix saying this: quote when you run to succeed a two-term president of your own party, you have a historical headwind

blowing against you. the nerve that obama winning a second term. hillary also went on to say she had a difficult time running because this election was the first reality tv campaign, which is amazing given that here we are a year later, and she's still not accepting reality. so has hillary gone mad? or did she just have too much hot sauce at lunch? carly, this is -- i understand -- because she was trying to -- she couldn't really run on president obama's record in terms of people in the middle of the country, the very people who turned and voted for president trump because their wages weren't growing, they felt left out, they felt left behind, ignored by washington. so how are you doing -- how are you going to basically blame president obama but then also -- >> yeah. like, can you help me win? i actually think she made a really good point, given everything that, you know, you just said. it's obviously going to be

more difficult for her to convince unhappy people that she's going to make them happy running as a democrat after obama. but i mean, the funny thing here is that the excuse train is, like, 150 cars long now. and it's rolling down the tracks with no end in sight. >> i actually view it as an excuse as much as i see it as, like, this is a moment where she was actually being very truthful because the way -- >> where? >> because the way that i see it. >> over on the campaign trail. >> a lot that she has thrown around about it's bernie's fault. that stuff was a little -- >> russia. >> but i think this is actually -- she's being honest, and it's true. because one of the things her campaign failed to do at a national level was to really hammer out how she overlapped with and differentiated herself from president obama's policies. it's something that they fail on the campaign trail from day one all the way through to november. >> and they were doomed to fail. . >> but, well-- >> on that point. because if you look at the

exit polling. >> they could have done a better job of hammering out from the beginning. >> sure. >> the areas of this is where we're with president obama, and this is how we're different. this is how we're better, and they never did that. >> i think your point is well taken. but if you look at the exit polling and the polling leading up to this election, people were not happy with the direction of the country. it was on paper a change election. she was right about the history at play here. and there's not a single person on the planet who could be credibly convinced a change maker after eight years of barack obama. nobody's going to believe that. so it was a tall task. trump, say what you will about him. big, big change. hillary clinton, more of the same. >> there wasn't eight years of obama that was the problem. it was eight years of bill clinton, and she was being in the white house and what she tried to do there that was -- much further left than what barack obama did, i would argue. >> a lot of badge. >> a lot of baggage. >> it was a lot of baggage and a personality that was fiction or at least she tried to be

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>> just when it seemed like president trump had widely side-stepped the controversy surrounding roy moore and other washington sex scandals, he don't have right into the muck with white house reporters and seemed to suggest that he, well, supports roy moore. trump: look, he denies it. i mean, if you look at what is really going on, and you look at all of the things that have happened over the last 48 hours, he totally denies it. he says it didn't happen. >> well, some political say the president should continue to stay quiet on that issue with some calling the off the cuff statements an unforced error. same going with his on going twitter spat on the nfl along with basketball dad levar ball who trump referred to as a poor man's don king.

so what will it take to avoid the political third rail or could it be in his best interest to just keep stirring the for the? let me bring in former white house press secretary. also a fox news contributor. i have said literally for -- since the president declared his casino, he shouldn't be on twitter. he shouldn't be saying that, but he still does it, and he won the white house, and he is still here. >> yeah. and i don't think anybody should ever think he should get off of twitter. he won't. he has used it to his benefit many times. sometimes he has gone too far. the levar ball thing is a silly distraction. i don't think there's anything that's going to upset the ship of state here. but it's a fight that if you're the president, sometimes you want to elevate, you don't have to be in every fight that's out there. >> the communications director, though, the comments that he made on the fly about roy moore, it was the way that he said it that seemed to be the problem. and as if he did not have kind of a prepared response to

those questions. whose fault is that? >> oh, no, i think he had a prepared response. he knew what he wanted to say, and i think he's been inching toward this for weeks. look, you can't keep silent on this forever. the election's not for another three weeks. he's going to talk to the press within three weeks, and he made his point. and he is in an impossible catch 22. play it out. if donald trump had said that moore needs to step down, immediate next question is then what about you, mr. president? why should we believe him when we didn't believe yours? so he can't say that. and that's the pickle he's in, so that's why he said what he said. >> does it distract and take away and even damage his agenda as the senate is now trying to move forward on massive tax reform? it will ultimately, if he can get through the senate, go to conference. does this hurt that? should he be communicating more about that versus everything else from basketball to football to the color of the sky?

>> well, look, i think that nothing is going to impact tax reform in this election. either republicans are going to be able to pass it before this election or they're not. and if you lose the seat in alabama, then it's going to be more precarious when it comes to final passage if they don't have that done in time. so i understand that incentive to want to have somebody who votes your way. but, again, you know, there's not as if you can just avoid reporters for three weeks. i suppose he could clam up and do that. but it's very hard to do when you're the president, and he's asked by the press about roy moore. and they're never going to let it go. >> and he did try to make it about a political choice about are you going to choose a democrat? he mentioned the candidate was weak on crime. or are you going to choose a republican? and i thought that that was the kind of lane that you want to stay in. >> you have to be consistent,

and i said the right moral thing would be for moore to step down. but in the democrat's case. take what happened with congressman conyers who has also been accused of sexual harassment and paid off a settlement. one of the leading democrats in the house leadership congressman names james fellow democrat said this about congressman john conyers that the charges against him don't have any real substance. quote you can't jump to conclusions with these types of things for all i know all of this could be made up. so if the democrats are going to jump on donald trump for not believing the accusers of roy moore, they need to jump for defending conyers, you can't have it both ways and democrats are trying to have it both ways on these issues. >> take care. happy thanksgiving. >> thank you. >> coming up, a damning new report claiming uber's new hacker stole data from nearly 60 million customers and drivers but kept it under raps for more than a year. should you be concerned if

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is the latest in a long list of uber screwups that date back all the way to the company's founding. so why are we just finding out about the hack now? and should users be concerned? here with me now fox business network deirdre bolton. deirdre. it is the latest screw up. but this is kind of even more -- >> i was just going to say. uber's past ceo former ceo travis had really set the bar pretty high for bad behavior, immaturity and as many people would say even questionable ethics compared to other average human beings. but this actually takes the cake. so uber got hacked, you mention the date. october 2016. so more than a year ago and didn't tell anybody. okay. so that's actually a problem as you alluded to following a long list of problems. uber just flouted -- you're supposed to pick up the phone and call the new york attorney general, the ftc, and say, hey, this is what happened.

customers' accounts and bat were breached. also, some of our drivers. >> something like 600,000 drivers i think. >> 600,000 license numbers were taken from seven million drivers, dagen. and if you want to take a look at the numbers for worldwide customers, it's above 50 million. this is a big hack. i just want to underline that point. that ceo no longer has his job, and this is just one of the reasons why. but what is really egregious and lots of companies have gotten hacked in the past few years. this is the only one, at least, that i know of from being on the business where the ceo was, like, oh, you hacked our database? okay. here's $100,000. zip it. >> and there's no way to know or we don't know at this point what the hackers still have in their hands. >> i'll go over the list with you. i mean, now, what i do want to tell you is that the list has been provided by uber itself. so we're going to have to trust, in other words, no social security numbers, i do know that. no credit card information,

and no trip location details, which is obviously a great privacy concern. >> but they're asking us to trust them when they didn't tell us for the last year that they got hacked. >> yes. and they sort of just released in a blog post saying, hey, this just happened a year ago. i think you should know about it. one thing i do want to say is the new ceo very long last name seems extremely competent. he is just trying to cleanup these messes left, right, and center. honestly by all accounts, he's a very good leader. he's very strong and said, hey, listen, there's no excuse for what happened. i'm not even going to try to explain this. but what i can tell you going forward, every single ambition decision that we're making at uber is made with the idea of integrity. so i do give the new ceo a lot of credit. i just think he has such a huge mess. it's like two monkeys cooking in a kitchen, and he has to go around and cleanup. >> misogyny and sexism that was well-known throughout

silicon valley. there was one executive had the personal medical records of a rape victim in india. >> and he actually flew to india illegally obtained those medical records with the idea of discrediting a customer at the hands of an uber driver but discredit her story. no, there's nothing that was correct or noble or done properly at this company under the former ceo. i do want to highlight. he's still on the board. so there are a lot of investors, in fact, one of their biggest investor is in an open lawsuit right now trying to, basically, get more board seats. so i'm going to make this face in the camera and relay in respect to that news. crazy. thank you, deirdre bolton. >> you're so welcome. >> you're fantastic. always good to see you. so how evil is technology? that's a question that was asked in new york times op-ed that compares the tech industry to big tobacco.

the piece i don't tell lines three ways big tech is hurting users. number one, social media is having a negative impact on young people. two, the tech industry is encouraging addiction to products to make more money. and three, monopolies like facebook and google are using their market power to invade our privacy. privacy invasion has proven to be a valid fear. google just admitting that they have been able to track the location of users even when the setting was turned off on phones. so how do we fight big tech? the party panel back. carly, guy benson, julian turner. this is what you cover. you cover social media. how do you fight this? >> you can't fight it. but you have to realize that this is what's happening, and there is nothing that you can really do about it. even if your location, you know, tracker is off, even if your microphone is off on your phone, always assume that people now have your information. now, i don't think that everybody should be very

concerned about this. i personally am not. i like to think that my life is so bland that somebody in, you know, a tech company isn't tracking me, personally, but they -- >> but there are a lot of perverts online tracking you. >> that's true. one look at twitter, and you get very terrified. >> i've read this new york times op-ed, and i think about all of the information that people give to these technology companies and the way they choose. this is personal responsibility. this is where parents need to step up and where all of us need to step up. because ultimately if you're worried about it, then don't use your phone. take charge. >> the landline. >> right. >> totally agree. and a lot of this does come down to what you allow yourself to do and your devices and your choices that you make and parenting and so forth. but to the example that you just gave about google, these were people being responsible turning off features that they didn't want on and google is exploiting it anyway in a way

that i think was a betrayal. and then uber was in trouble in the last couple days revealing that there was a huge hack that compromised millions of people. yeah, and what do they do? they covered it up by hiring basically more hackers to make it go away. and now we're just finding out about it. >> it was shockingly easy for them. >> very easy. >> good thing that google a couple of years ago got rid of its original motto. don't be evil. that used to be the motto. because they couldn't -- i want to get jillian -- jillian, what were you going to say? >> i was just going to say that there are some parallels on the national security front which carly was saying about how do you regulate silicon valley and big tech? you can't, really. you can't really rely on the government to do this. we're only now for the first time getting donald trump to dump isis content off of it. >> and that was through shaming. because i shamed twitter years ago because they were literally not policing it at all. but i think that the threat of

regulation will get them to do a better job at protecting people's information. the threat of it because they don't want the government coming in. it's looking like some holiday spirits may be running a little dry this year. many offices will reportedly be banning alcohol from their year-end parties while some firms are canceling the parties all together. amid sexual harassment allegations coming from work environments. and some don't want to take the chance of the incident. but is sobriety really the answer? guys? you're giving the me the death stair. >> it's such a depressing story. some of perv nato is ruining everything for everybody else. if you have too many drinks at the office christmas party, you probably shouldn't be doing that to begin with. >> or take yourself home. >> to have everybody ruined because of these bad apples. and moving to alcohol-free

lunches. which is fine but less fun. >> i'll drink some booze at lunch because noon is like my 5:00. >> yeah, exactly right? >> yeah, because i get up at 2:00 in the morning. >> to have a glass of wine at noon. >> your solution here. i'm, like, oh, some companies are moving these to lunches. you're, like, great. let's drink at lunch. undeterred. >> here's what people are going to do at the christmas party. >> looking like high-schoolers, you know, drinking at a school dance. >> this isn't going to happen, though. there would be so much outrage if they don't serve alcohol at company christmas parties. people would just bring their own. >> here's a pro tip. no one's going to go, so don't bother to hold the party. would you -- i wouldn't go. >> that's true. and then the company would save money, though. >> which some of them. >> but do you know what? that's what they're doing. the companies are using this as cover to cancel the christmas party. >> cheapskates. >> so the war on christmas. i tell you it exists. >> this is the real war on christmas right here.

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>> the death of four u.s. soldiers in niger last month, people started to wonder why we had such a big military presence in central africa in the first place. turns out, america's military presence in africa extends far beyond just niger. it has expanded this year following trump's april decision to grant new authorities to our military leaders in africa. and somalia alone, 29 air strikes have been carried out this year to combat islamic extremist. more than double what was carried out in 2016. military personnel in somalia have also more than doubled this year from about 200 to 500. it's the largest american military presence in that country since the black hawk down disaster in 1993 when 18 u.s. soldiers died. now, somalia is a war-torn country and there seems to be an endless supply of bad guys there but can america really patch things up? let me bring in former cia

officer host buck sexton with america now. it is buck sexton. good to see you, my friend. >> good to see you. >> what's going on, particularly in somalia and why the increased presence there? >> the trump administration i think has seen what's gone on in iraq and syria as a template for what they're going to try to do against the affiliates of the islamic state going forward. use local, on the ground allies, work within the political realities of the various tribes and factions and give them air cover, have a limited presence of u.s. special forces or special operations command personnel who will be training, providing intelligence, and other assistance if necessary. but let indigenous forces carry most of the fight. that has been the -- that has worked to -- that has worked well in iraq and syria. somalia, they are upping the air strikes. this is where the trumpian aspect of it i think comes

into play even more. they're taking a more aggressive stance with those strikes. they also did this in iraq and syria, i should note. but that means you will have an increase in casualties and not just casualties of bad guys, but i think the administration's calculation is look what happened in iraq and syria. we have a half million people dead in syria. you have civil war there in iraq. tens of thousands killed at a minimum hundreds of thousands wounded, displaced, injured, enslaved, and that was because there was insufficient action taken on the ground by -- there was a u.s. presence, and there were u.s. options at hand. so i think what they're trying to do is the antiisis model from iraq and syria elsewhere around the world, and that means more air strikes, and it means that we will have people in harms way. that's part of this. >> right. they're putting the hammer down for lack of a better phrase. what about, though, because it's the military operation. but that comes out of intelligence gathering. do you have any sense as a former cia officer the quality of the intelligence that we're getting in order to execute on

some of these missions? >> well, you need it to be for counter insurgency purposes, which is really what you're dealing with in a context like somalia, you need it to be granular. you need it to note down to the tribe and village level who the players are, good and bad, and that means that on the ground allies are absolutely essential, which brings me back to what the template is now. look, we did go back in iraq. we did go back in afghanistan. for bush and obama's terms in office. obama pulled down in iraq but actually surged in afghanistan. i think there's a recognition that it's not ever going to be possible for us to build a country and want it more than the people who live in the country. he can't want it more than they do. so that's why using the forces on the ground in the case of somalia, in niger we're working very closely. the mention -- the raid, very important raid where we lost some u.s. special forces personnel killed. but they're working with

indigenous forces there too. we're using air cover and our specialized operators and in some places -- >> but ultimately, we see as a nation. and this sounds very simplistic. these terrorist-affiliated groups in these africaian countries is a threat to the united states security. maybe not here at home but overseas, that's a question rather than a statement. >> well, you look at a group like al al shabaab. >> right. >> and you look at nigeria, for example. these are same as al-qaeda. i think the separation between these groups. they change, they're all working for the same thing, which is a global caliphate and a global jihad. but they have engaged in cross-border attacks. al al shabaab has gone into kenya and been responsible for mass casualty incidents there. so we know that that's already on offering for them. that's something that they're trying to do. and i believe that one of the

problems we've seen is that with, for example, the obama administration iraq and syria, they took a hands-off approach, they allowed the failed state to become the launchpad for jihadism, and then it was our problem anyway. so trump's team is looking at this problem set. and, look, it's very, very complicated and no one can fix this easily. but losing the problem set of what's going on with jihadist in sub-saharan africa more now even air strikes which involve more casualties. that will happen if you're taking a harder line. that prevents us from dealing with. okay. now there's a civil war in somalia, which has been happening over the course of recent decades. but now there's the complete implosion and hundreds of thousands of people killed. >> buck sexton. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> happy thanksgiving. >> eat well. >> that, i can promise. >> coming up, they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. but you can teach him new exercises. we'll tell you about a police dog who's trying to work off

>> president trump is keeping with a family tradition and spending the holiday weekend in palm beach, florida. and president clinton is keeping the tradition and spending it at hooter. pass the bleu cheese

dressing. this is topical storm. topic number one, we don't normally cover serious topics in this segment, but we begin tonight with a police exercise that's so intense, they had to bring in the canine unit. any dog can give you a paw, but it takes a serious shepherd to drop and give you 20, and that's exactly what nitro learned to do after gulf shores police taught him how to do push-ups. or is it the other way around? nitro looks like he has better technical ncaa than that auto guy on the right. over 1 million people have watched this video. but, unfortunately, the news is not all good for nitro. earlier today, he was suspended from the police force after he got caught making deals under the table. topic number two. the legendary rap group would you tang clan is suing the dog-walking company for copyright infringement and could be headed to court because the lawsuit disclosed an unknown amount of cream.

boy, these are would you tang songs which i only point out to you because the producer's just pointing them out to me. anyway the dog walking company is called the wolfgang clan and aside from having a hilarious name, they also claim to have the full hip-hop treatment for your dog, which means the dog's getting walked to a pot dealer and barking at female dogs. topic number three. let's head on down to florida where the holiday traffic is so bad that everybody is trying to use the hov lane, including airplanes. a police dash cam captured footage of a pilot trying to fly on the roads after his engine failed on his plane. look out. amazingly, nobody was hurt during the fiery crash. but florida police say that passengers are still expected to suffer from the flames. they're all miami dolphins fans. you want to talk about crashes. topic number four. up until now, if you drank whiskey out of a capri sun you

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>> it's just about the time of year when millions of americans go out to buy christmas trees. but now the national christmas tree association is claiming that there's a shortage. and they're going to be more expensive this year. it kind of reminds me of just how right before the super bowl there always seems to be a national shortage of chicken wings and prices suddenly skyrocket at the supermarket. well, the christmas tree folks claim it's because of droughts and wildfires. but here's an idea from a southern person. if you don't feel like shelling out more money for a shortage, you can always do the next best thing. buy a saw, go cut one down in your neighbor's yard, and run. thanks for watching the show tonight. you can follow us on twitter and instagram at kennedy nation. on facebook, e-mail us

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