charles: with john mccain, listen, i don't care what side of political aisle you are on, he is an amazing american, we wish him a speedy recover, thank you, ladies. >> lou dobbs is next. lou: you remember the senate seat that was so important just a day ago? it seems that nation has survived upset and the election of first democratic senator to serve alabama in 25 years. now the swam moves on. -- swamp moves owill republican leadership deliver on tax reform, that is so important to prospect of midterm elections, will g.o.p. succeed in stop stopping effort to shut down government. how about that robert mueller and testimony of the head of justice department deputy

attorney general ron rosenstein? we take up the deep state sorts web of corruption with congressman jim jordan, former federal prosecutor andrew mccarthy tonight, we get into that. top story, justice department clear political corruption at highest levels, question is how far down does it go? american public is being asked to believe that its individual ignorance in justice department. playing the -- plaguing the doj and the fbi. reopen every investigation he has touched. nation's deputy attorney general, does not see it that way. for that matter, he does not see

it at all. rosen stein testified before house judiciary committee today, defending the department of justice. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with the report. >> i think that public trust is gone. reporter: republican say anti-trump -- undermine confidence in russia investigation, pointing to august test from fb fbi agent to lisa page. he writes the path you threw out for considering. andy's office -- strong continue -- i'm afraid we can't take that risk. >> he thought he was super agent

game james bond. reporter: rose rosenstein pointo a review. >> are you concerned that comey fbi and obama justice department worked with one campaign to go after another campaign? that is what it goes through. if you have those walmart shop are trump voters, that peter strzok, so derided in text-messages how to they react to that? >> we have appropriate internal affairs officers who get to bottom of that. >> robert mueller fired strzok last summer when he learned about anti-trump text. on special counsel team. >> straight face, can you say.

unbiased, will give president trump a fair shake. >> we recognize we have employers with political opinions, our responsibility to make sure those opinions do not influence their actions. reporter: defending fbi agent. >> strzok did not say anything about donald trump that the majority of americans were not thinking at the same time. >> reporter: an alleged political bias can go both ways. >> people are allows to have their personal opinions and political affiliation. somewhere counsel mueller and james comey and you are life long republicans. >> they asked rosenstein to keep an open find about allegations again the president. >> to investigate these and other allegations of assault, and unwanted sexual advances by the president of theu u.s. >> any other allegation you think, merits investigation, i invite you to submit evidence and the department will review

it. reporter: on capitol hill, president's son testified behind closed-doors behind senate intelligence committee, we have confirmed it last the hours. lou. lou: thank you. catherine herridge from washington. >> rosenstein today seemed unconcerned with latest overwhelming evidence that bias and political corruption has infested mueller's investigation of alleged russian meddling in presidential elect, newly released text-messages from fbi officials peter strzakrchtionrza paige latest examples. they use the dossier to obtain a warrant from a fisa court, to semion members of -- to spy on members of the trump campaign, we have court documents that show fusion gps cofounder --

nelly was hired for specifically purpose to investigate trump. we learned that mueller's top lieutenant, andrew weisman, praised acting attorney general sally yates, when it she defied president trump on travel ban. mueller prosecutor jeanie reed represented the clinton foundation. and hillary clinton for crying out loud. it was rhee who worked for a time under mccabe, and mccabe a wife pocketed roughly $700,000 in campaign money. aligned with clinton, including clinton a biggest money raiser at one time that is virginia governor terry mccullagh. at least 9 of mueller's 17 attorneys are democratic donors,

5 of them, donating to hillary clinton. not a single republican among them. our first guest tonight says that public trust is gone after rosenstein aar appearance, callg for a second special counsel, joining us congressman jim jordan. member of house freedom caucus. great too have you with us. what was your reaction when you heard him dismiss everything? >> look, you can't make this stuff up, it -- this story gets worse and worse each day, and e-mail that catherin catherine e highlights, she picked right message, that text-message.

whole list, but text-message where he said to lisa page, peter strzok says we can't let this happen, we can't let donald trump be president, that shows he is thinking about a plan to stop one party's nominee from being president, peter strzokrchtio strzok ran the clinton investigation. he is the guy who ran russia investigation, he is the guy who interviewed flynn, picked by mueller to be on his team, i think he is central player, now wwe have this text-message between him and lisa page, he says we need an insurance policy, we need something else to stop trump, that is what he was thinking at level.

at fbi that is what this is about we need a second extinguish counsel should disban the whole mueller toom righ teat now. >> robert mueller, and rosenstein, let's put up quote from peter again. you were not appalled by just anti-trump. >> no. lou: you are appalled this is an active effort to prevent his path to presidency. >> this shows intent to do something to stop donald trump, who was nominated by republican party running for president, they are trying to stop him, i think it had to do withs dossier. lou: i want to believe path you threw out for consideration in andy's office, presumed to be

mccabe, i am afraid we can't take that risk, like an insurance policy. unlikely event you die before you're 40. this is clearly intent, it also is presumptive of some illusion that takes him beyond what youring iss about james bond. and fbi. this is say man who is a political activist who means too have his way, that is only way, it is antidemocratic, anti-american. it is god awful, yet mueller does not call for his resignation and rosen stein does not call. does anyone make a decision in department of justice? >> no kidding. this is -- here is the concern. peter strzok thought he was the saving the world, mr. super james bond in his mind, he thinks he is doing that great

service against the very guy people are going to elect, president trump, he is no different from lois lerner. this is the same mind set, here we have the guy who i think, took the dossier, discredited, disproven dossier, fake news. and took that document that clintons paid for, i think he dressed it up and presented it to fisa court, i think that deputy head of counter intelligence peter strzok did that, it is about 2 questions, did fbi pay christopher steel, did they take his work product, and present it as real intelligence, and take if to fisa court to get war warrants,f it is yes, this is as bad as anything i have seen in the government, and people like peter strzok needs to be held

account in. lou: do you mean go to jail. >> if that what it is. but, we need to and are you mccd lisa page, and oro, we'll say if they take of fifth or answer questions. >> i would love a grand jury impaneled here. i much prefer to see jail sentences for violating the trust of the american people, and working against the constitution and yes, the president of the united states. >> you are tired of it most personally, i am. but importantly the american people are tired of it they are sick double standards, because you are peter strzok some big

shot at fbi there are different standards for you? it did you not work that way. lou: as i listened and you have been asking the questions -- i have been listening. i am interested in quiet chill that seems to be only answer these officials are capable of when you ask, did you pay for the dossier? did you think about the consequences of what you are doing? and they don't answer, there is silence, in the chill in the air is an answer of its own. i don't think it will be pleasant for american people. >> i'm afraid that answer to those questions is yes, deep down, it scares me, if this happens, fbi had a concerted, foot with people at top -- concerted effort with people on the top to help nominee, if that happens in u.s. of america, each day points to more and more

likely that is what took lies that is sad for the country, i think it will did based on what i'm seeing all evidence points to that. lou: congressman jim jordan, always, terrific job today in committee. >> thank you. lou: we're coming right back, there is a lot more. stay with us. >> deputy attorney general rod rosenstein ignoring clear conflicts of interest. >> have you sign good cause to fire special counsel mueller. >> no. lou: we take up need for a second special counsel to investigate corrupt department of justice and fbi leadership with andrew mccarthy. deep state exposed. fusion gps admits it hired a top -- wife nelly orr to investigate president trump, we will have

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lou: deputy attorney general rod rosenstein today rejecting the idea that political donation to democrats by members of special

counsel robert mueller's team shows their bias in anyway against trump. >> not aware of any impropriety we have regulation, issu special counsel subject to oversight by the department. i am not aware of any violation of those rules by the special counsel employees. >> you don't think it creates that appearance. >> appearance is in the eye of the beholder. lou: congressman stick must be pondering, eye of the beholder. as if that is an answer. joining me now, andrew mccarthy. great american, great to have you hire. >> thanhere. >> thank you. lou:ic ar extraordinary performe today by rod rosenstein, i cannot believe how many times i heard, i can't answer that question, i won't answer that

question, sure one who is merely presiding. >> certainly the way that the special counsel investigation that we have came to be was an instance of him being passive in what his duty was. which was to set parameters around that investigation. but i think two things this i come away with from the testimony today are the idea that a justice department inspector general investigation, which is narrow, particularly compared to a regular investigation, is not supposed to be a substitute or a productsy in anyway -- proxy in anyway for congress to do oversight and get answers to these important questions on behalf of the people they represent. that is the way our government is supposed to work. second thing that precious reliance on regulations about

you know, whether people can give political contributions, look. i was a prosecutor, very opinionated prosecutor, i gave donations from time to time too. usually, it does not make a difference. and in most cases the regulations make perfect sense. but you are always supposed to have an independent obligation to avoid appearance of impropriety. if you know you are going to a investigation, that is pull of politics, if you are partisan, that does not make you a bad person, but you should stay out of it, if you don't have sense to stay out of it, they should not recruit you in the first place. lou: why would you not choose a prosecutor who was not so fraught with partisanship. >> all people from outside, mueller came from outside, there are people like me, i am not volunteers, but people who are

just like me, who serve the justice deputy, know how to do this, could get up and running quickly, he did not need to make toes people he took -- need to take the people he took this say bigger problem. because who ought to be investigatedded here is whether the obama administration put the law enforcement arms of government in service of hillary clinton a political campaign, that is the big question. lou: is there doubt at this point any doubt. >> i think that degree to which is happened and whether this was -- they have good reason for some of the investigation, they did. i don't get in sphront o front e know, but i know that we spent a lot of time talking about collusion between russia and trump with very little evidence to rely on. lou: no evidence. literally no evidence by fbi, turned up by any one of 5 investigating committees.

>> and look to his credit, i want to be fair, mueller has released 3 sets of charges be they don't name trump, they don't allege any misconduct. there nothing about collusion or russia. lou: nothing t to do with collusion with russia which is was deputy attorney rod rosenstein was supposed to be confining this special counsel to do. >> we have parallel collusions here there is a lot of attention paid with little result to collusion between trump and russia, no attention, paid to question whether the government's investigative law enforcement and intel jedge inte arms were put in service of a partisan political campaign, it appears there severed that happened. lou: so much evidence. that i think that there is as jim jordan, congressman jordan

said, that there should be an absolute second special counsel, i have some reservation, i am not sure adding more special counsel is the correct answer, but right now it does even request says be we have such an irvetioirk months prob -- immene problem. corruption at top of fbi and department of justice that we need to fix it to me, that means people need to be fired and some of them go to jail. what we're witnessing is awful conduct on part of men and women who are supposed to besetting behaving accord doing highest standards. >> it needs to be scrubbed. >> i am not as crazy about institution of the special counsel, i think there a bet wear to do it -- better way to do it with a strong, independent

judge. someone outside of virginia, outside of washington, who is look at this, and look at conduct of our law enforcement and inteligent agencies through the 2016 campaign. lou: what if i said to you, i don't neat an investigation, i already have the admission, of bruce orr, the come blissty of his -- come bliss ti compliesty, working for fusion gps, for cia on u.s. soil, for what purpose we're told russia but that does not make sense. you have -- as o'connor used to say a desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world, you would think here interests were somewhat more u.s. o oriented. and secondly, the number of times that we hear oig being

deferred to by the man running fbi, what are the possibilities that oig has beenel o told to pk up this corrupt investigation, and take it on, is that possible what we're looking at. >> i don't think we should assume until we hear otherwise that oig is playing it straight, i must say, person here, who could make it happen a lot fast ser president trump. he could compel the agencies to cooperate. lou: that is braided with many imponderables and variables that would run to him. >> can't be worse. lou: i think worth seeing where we're going to go with special counsel, then i think you take that justice department, and everyone one of those sob's, you

intertruce them to con-- infrom deuce them to consequence, is that unfair? >> no, but i think we have a simple question, what happened with the dossier, and fisa application? did they misuse the dossier? absolutely. >> we don't know that. lou: we know. >> we could find -- >> department of justice official whose wife works for fusion gps on that dossier, and who is specific interest is russia, and andrew wood the ambassador, i mean collusion. >> right. lou: andrew thank you. >> thank you. lou: up next rod rosenstein. markets. his advisor ran the numbers and showed that he wouldn't be able to retire until he was 68.

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>> an embarrassing performance today by did he mean members of the house judiciary committee as the question

deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. just listen to some of the did he mean's low lights in today's hearing. >> let me show you some of these individuals here. it says that the trump accusers want a day in court. what -- the department of justice, what intentions do you have to allow these women who are accusing the president of sexual misconduct, what does the department of justice intend to do -- >> i don't think i have any position on that, congressman. if they file a lawsuit, they're free to do so. >> but you're the number two top law enforcement officer in the nation. let me ask you if a person on a train went and kissed a woman. is that a crime? >> if it's a federal train, it might be a federal crime. >> instructed not to say anything about donald trump that the majority of americans were thinking at the same

time. >> can we put up a tweet from donald trump on november 3rd at 3:57 a.m. in the morning. god knows what he was doing at that time other than tweeting. it says everybody -- let me put that tweet up. >> there were more. lots more of only an hour-long broadcast. maybe we'll fix that one of these days. we're coming right back with much more. stay with us. president trump is optimistic that he will be signing into law tax reform and tax cuts for americans by christmas. >> i want to have a very fast lunch so that you can go immediately back and finish it up. >> republicans very close to delivering a legislative victory to president trump and hard-working americans. we take it up with house budget chair diane black. and what happens when a daring pilot meets an adventurous dirt biker? we'll show you one of the most

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lou: house and senate republicans striking a attentive deal on tax reform and tax cuts today. president trump, well, he bought them lunch at the white house. >> our current tax code is burdensome, complex, and profoundly unfair. it has exported our jobs, closed our factories, and left

millions of parents worried that their children might be the first generation to have less opportunity than the last. i'm here to tell you that we will never let bad things happen with respect to the economy. lou: and my next guest at that luncheon meeting with the president and the tax were joined by republican congresswoman diane black of tennessee. she's chair of the house budget committee. a member of the powerful ways and means committee. and like i said, she had a free lunch at the white house today with the very happy president. good to see you, congresswoman. >> good to be with you, lou. thank you for having me. lou: congratulations, and it looks like you're on the way. >> well, we're on the way. i'm not sure we need congratulations at this point. i think we're going to wait until we actually have a signed deal between the house and the senate. but we are getting very close. lou: and close enough that you're going to be able to get

this signed by the president before christmas. >> yes. we're going to give the american people a christmas present and allow them to keep more of their hard-earned tax dollars in their pocket. >> the 21% corporate rate. not quite what the president wanted. but in these things, what was his theme song? you don't always get what you want. you get what you need. >> yeah. lou: it looks like that's going to be the result here. >> well, we are still -- i will say we are still in the process of turning some dials, so i'm not going to say exactly whether it will be that or if it will be something else because we still have a few little pieces that we need to do. but let's just say that we're making great progress and that we do believe that we can give the house and the senate an opportunity to vote on something next week and give it to the president and as i say, give some relief to the american people. look for tennesseeians, this is great. this means additional dollars informed pocket both on what

their tax burden is and also on the amount of jobs. 18,000 new jobs in tennessee are supposed to be created and that means an additional almost 2,000 in people's pockets. lou: when i think the projections about that. i've heard them throughout my career. what i do know is that once you change direction in an economy, open it up, get rid of regulation, open up the pathways for animal spirits in a capitalist economy like ours, free enterprise kicks in and nothing but good things happen. so i can only imagine what would happen to this economy if republicans fail to deliver. i don't think you. i don't think mitch mcconnell. i don't think speaker ryan would want to contemplate would that would do. so it seems to me that those choices are simple for you all. >> yeah. not at all. because we've been talking about this for the seven years that i've been here. you know, chairman camp began this conversation.

and when folks say that this is new and we don't have full disclosure. look, we had working committees. i was part of -- i chaired one of the working committees. but we were able to get some legislation, actually, out of that. so we've been talking about this for a long time. this is not anything new. it's just a matter of -- lou: doing it is what's new, though. y'all have been talking for a long time. >> that's right. i'm so proud of the fact that we are at this point in time where we're actually going to show the american people that we can get this done. lou: and i'm proud of the fact that this president is the one talking about politicians in washington who do all talking and now showing them how to get things done, and i think it's a wonderful moment for all americans. i also want to turn to what could be coming our way. thank you very much to the dems, and that is a government shut down. where do you stand and are you confident that you can avoid it? where do we stand? >> well, right now, we're going to be doing another continuing resolution, which we want to keep the government open until we can get the bca

cap taken care of. but, look, it doesn't do the american people any good to shut down the government. we really don't want to do that. i've been here when we did that previously. and, look, we've got so many good things going on, lou. we want to keep the government open. we want to work with democrats. lou: just like you say, congresswoman, i can't think of a reason to shut it down. where is the freedom caucus? where are the conservatives? and where is the leadership and where are the dems? >> well, i know that the speaker is working with across the aisle and trying to get the democrats to come where we can have an agreement on a bca cap. and that is really important that we get that agreement because unlike the reconciliation where we could do that simply with our own members, that's not something we can do with our own members. we do have to have the bipartisan support on getting that bca cap done. so, look, if we had all of our

members and our house vote on it, we would do it here. but you can't because you need 60 votes. look, we need to work together on this. lou: let mitch mcconnell worry about that part of it. >> we will. don't worry about it. lou: what do you think? what are the odds right now? >> i think the odds are looking better day by day, and there's a lot of conversation going on. and i will tell you as a fiscal hawk. you know how i am, and i did this in my budget are i just say you have got to watch those dollars. and even when we see the economy getting better, lou, we have got to be careful that we don't spend more than what we bring in. and we start using some of those dollars to pay down our debt. lou: when have you ever seen that be the case? i mean, you had a republican administration for eight years. you watched the obama years drive it crazy, almost doubling it. but when -- i mean, you have to go back to the early clinton years,ed mid-clinton years to see a balanced

budget. come on, congresswoman. you don't want to slow this economy down. >> no. i don't want to slow this economy down. i want this economy to grow, and i want those dollars to come in, and then i want us to be responsible when the dollars come in. and with our budget, this is the first time in 20 years that we produced the conservative budget where we actually had some mandatory spending. now, the senate didn't take it. but this is changing the culture around here. there's a lot of people that are a lot more aware of what we need to do because of what we did on the budget, and i'm very proud of that. lou: yeah, i'm very proud of the fact that you guys are close to getting the economy where it needs to be, and that is 4% plus growth and starting to build prosperity for every american. and i don't want some -- nobody's more conservative than me on a fiscal policy. i think you know that. but i've got to tell you. the idea of slowing down this economy with a government shut down is absolute nuts. and with that, congresswoman,

i'm going to say to you thank you for being here. thank you for getting it all done. and i know you're going to give us the christmas present. >> we're excited about that. thank you, lou. lou: thanks for being with us, congresswoman. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. the question. do you believe that by defending robert mueller and the fbi investigators deputy ag rod rosenstein has basically just demonstrated an utter lack of awareness of the depth of corruption that has already ensnared the upper echelons of the bureau? cast your vote on twitter. we need your opinions on that. i don't think he has a sense of how bad what he's looking at really is. watch as this dirt bike does a back flip. whoa. that's pretty impressive. you know, i don't think -- i wouldn't want -- i definitely

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lou: the left wing national media today showing just how far it has gone trying to destroy this president. usa today bashing president trump in an outrageous editorial declaring him quote unfit to clean toilets in obama's presidential library. to shine george w. bush's shows. usa today editorial staff as you can see lofty, lofty exposition. they're willing to stoop that low because they are struggling. circulation at usa today down roughly 30% over the last few years. and if al, the founder were

alive, i believe he would give the editorial board a real -- well, pat on the back for such nuance and sightful analysis. but believe me. he would use his small boot, a low boot, to do it. up next, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein standing by despite obvious appearances of conflicts of interest. we take up corruption at the doj. ed rollins, michael goodwin are here next. stay with us. ♪

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lou: in our online poll we asked last night, do you think a second counsel is the only way to root out the justice department? 84% of you said "yes." now, i think that should have been higher, personally. joining me now, ed rollins, michael goodwin. columnist for the new york post. both fox business contributors and have accolades and plotted horrific beyond all the time we have left. good to have you both here. >> thank you. lou: let's start with -- to me, it's ancient history. roy moore in alabama. gone. >> gone. he's a lousy candidate and ran a lousy campaign. and the other side who ran the democrat campaign, the traditional campaign, and they got the african-american vote

out. lou: so got lucky? >> well, he knew what -- lou: joe trippy is an old friend. and a great strategist. >> he knew he was going to do it and i said on this show, they have to get 95% of the african-american vote out, and they did. >> did you tell him to do that? >> i didn't tell him to do that. i didn't think he could do it. and christian wright didn't turn out the normal numbers. and the candidate didn't campaign the last couple of weeks there. didn't have the money or the resources and washington was against them. >> mitch mcconnell, the establishment. >> and shelby. >> he can look up every day for the next three years and when he cast his vote, he can know that his vote is being offset by a nondistinguished candidate that got elected yesterday. lou: i don't think it bothers him a bet. >> the history of roy moore in alabama is even when he has

won two statewide races, it has been by close margin. >> won by a landslide. >> all the attacks from the media and then the right in look about the same size as the margin. so it was just a bridge too far. too many things and on one level, you can see mcconnell was right about this. luther strange would have been a far superior to what alabama got and what the president gets as a result. the president was right. he also backed luther strange. but the real answer is that strange was the wrong guy and mo brooks was the right guy and why in the heck they didn't get behind him. i mean, this is like people didn't do any thinking here. they just kept reacting. >> the final story is sessions would be the worst pick sessions has made to be attorney general. lou: that's a great point. rod rosenstein defending

corruption in his own organization and the appearance of conflicts of interest and activists working in the special counsel against the sitting president. this is as ugly as it gets. >> i thought rosenstein today often looked like the deer caught in headlights. he seemed not to be prepared for these questions about did you pay steal. was the steal dossier -- lou: oh, he was never going to answer the question. >> but all of these things about the contributors on mueller's team, the two democrats. his answer is more like, you know, 2000. trust us. we have procedures. we will take care of these things. did he not see what happened in this country in 2016? we're past that now. we don't trust the government. lou: andy mccarthy said a terrific thing. a terrific attorney and writer. but he said all president trump has to do here is tell

the justice department to release the documents and give it to the oversight committee because it's ignorant what's being done here by -- >> could not agree more and the president is in a real fight. if he doesn't do that and make some other changes. he's going to have a real long hard fought battle here because they're against him. >> yeah. he has to get ahold of the justice department. i mean, with sessions out of there and rosenstein sort of going by the book, and you see the deep state that's there. he has to figure this out. >> and somebody has to go into that justice department. not saying this moment but rip out the fools who think it's a candy rock mountain for people who would support the constitution of the united states. and a president. gentlemen, it is always good to see you. >> thank you. lou: why don't we go have dinner. >> why don't we do that?

lou: thank you very much. charlie hurt and molly hemingway among our guests tomorrow. we thank you for being with us. good night from new york. ♪ ♪ . >> tonight a political earthquake in alabama. what does it mean for republicans in 2018? plus is the mueller team bias against the president? we've got the simplicity new text messages at the center of the controversy. and how could today's new gop tax plan affect you and your family? brian crunches the numbers in your favor. grab a pencil because it is time to sharpen up. >> roy moore may have lost a sure thing senate seat in last night's special election. but steve bannon is the biggest loser in an attempt to reshape the republican party in his unhealthy image. bannon instead subjected alabama to his personal mitch mcconnell vendetta with disastrous results. the whole thing was confusing