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problem if we don't fix it. lou: that's it for us tonight. thank you for being with us. 2,000-mile wall. now, here's lou. lou: good evening, everybody. president trump today making his immigration stance clear with no equivocation at all. there must be a border wall as part of any deal on daca. his promise to build the wall has been a central tenant of his campaign and his presidency. ths trying to drive president trump in an all together different direction yesterday. among our guests tonight, congressman andy big. congressman bigg says the wall must be built before congress passes any legislation.
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also president trump calling on lawmakers to take control of the witch hunt. none of the investigations have found a single evidence of wrongdoing and yet the continuio waste time and taxpayer dollars. department of justice and fbi simply as he put it off the rails and need to purge the deep state. he will join us here tonight as well. president trump reportedly recertifying the iranian nuclear deal this week. sources tell fox news that's because progress is being made on legislation to fix problems in the deal that the president has criticized for two years. we'll take it up with general jack king our top story tonight, president trump today saying any immigration deal that he signs must include funding for his promised southern border wall. >> h we need the wall for
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security, we need to wall for safety. we need the wall to stop the drugs from pouring in. i would imagine that the people in the room, both democrat and republican, i believe they're going to come up with a solution to the daca problem which has been going on for a long time and maybe beyond that immigration as a whole. but any solution has to include the wall because without the wall it all doesn't work. lou: president trump's comments follow a snran federal judge's ruling barring the trump administration from phasing out the obama era daca program. president trump today blasted that injunction from the clinton-appointed judge saying this, quote, it just shows everyone how broken and unfair our court system is when the opposing side in a case such as daca always runs to the ninth circuit and almost always wins before being reversed by higher courts. the trump administration's next
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move to seek a stay of that ruling from the ninth circuit or go straight to the supreme court. our first guest tonight says president trump was well within his right to end daca and the ruling is the latest example of an activist judge imposing his political views. joining us tonight, congressman andy biggs, member of the house judiciary committee. good to have you here. is it not frustrating to watch usually these left-wing judges try to intervene in the legislative process and overwhelm our political system? >> yes, lou. it's good to be with you. but i can't agree more. i happen to live in arizona which unfortunately is in the ninth circuit and i will just tell you that circuit is out of control. that's why i introduced legislation to at least get arizona out and create a new circuit. but ve to got to bring them to heal. and the other ways we can do that is financially, that's one
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of the checks jens the judiciary. but we can call the judges in to impeachment in we need to. lou: and there hasn't been an impeachment. when i look at the rules, some of it is from a distant and strange land, not one of our most important circuit courts. >> they're so far off of the reservation that everything they do there is viewed by the police that live there is political motivation. we get it. but you need to get off of the bench if everything is based on politics rather than on the law. that's the way it is. lou: let's turn to daca itself, the case at the center of the controversial ruling. kdodaca the president maz moved against it and yet congress has not in the time that he allotted, which was until march 5th, done anything to
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replace daca or to make amends for what is a -- what was an unconstitutional executive order on the part of president obama in what is a very very complicated mess for those brought here illegally by their illegal immigrant parents. >> yeah, you know, here's the deal. president trump did what he had to do. he basically said, look, i can't in good conscious execute a power that i don't have like the previous president did. he's given it back to congress which is where it should be. daca is not what people want. what they really want is the d.r.e.a.m. act. what they want is, if you're brought her illegally we're going to give you a path of amnesty, keep your family here and keep the chain migration in place. when people talk about daca, that's generally what they want. lou: that's what the left wants.
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but that isn't what the american people want who in the most recent polling that we've looked at shows most people first of all, illegal immigration isn't even close to the top of their list of issues and concerns. and secondly, most oppose amnesty period. >> right. that's exactly right. the key for republicans is we promised we'd build a wall so we should be building the wall first. and if the white house says, which it did this week, it would only take a year to build it, let's build it for a year and then talk about additional immigration programs such as daca if that's what we want to do. let's keep trust with the people and secure the border with a physical barrier. >> did you see senator feinstein in the meeting of the cabinet room with the president in the first thing she said was let's have a clean daca bill and we'll guarantee that we'll move on to border security at a later date,
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a much later date. in 1986 with amnesty, president reagan was rolled and there was never any security measure applied to the border despite his full-on amnesty in 1986. >> yeah. you can thrust and who you can't trust. and i'm just telling you right now, you better build the wall and get your security first. then you can start cutting deals on the other issues like daca maybe. but don't give in on this. that's my position. and we're getting -- we're frankly moving to the democrat talking points and putting the cart before the horse when you start talking daca and amnesty. >> it's strange that we're sitting here with all that has been accomplished by this president and his administration the first year, unprecedented results for any president. and suddenly we're talking about daca for crying out loud. the judiciary committee, which you are an important part, of
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the proposal today to end -- i love the concept even of a visa lottery chain migration, build the border wall, moving ahead with that proposal, what are the odds that a crackdown on sanctuary cities and the daca three-year renewable status as you were suggesting there while the wall is being built, what are the odds it can win passenger? >> i think they're pretty long odds if you want to truth. you've got to get it through the senate and i don't think you're going to get anything through the senate quite frankly. to the point, my colleagues on the other side, they don't just want daca, they want the d.r.e.a.m. act. when we want the myriad of things, good thing, e verify, that's a greet thing, but you know what? i don't think that the other side is going to be able to come along. lou: why not? >> they want more than daca.
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the way it's put in there is a three-year renewal dock ka in purpose duty which is a problem for me. they want the d.r.e.a.m. act, a path to citizenship and amnesty. lou: a little history for some of the audience who may not know. two people were in that room, senator durbin, along with senator feinstein, maybe three, i should say, and at the same time senator menendez. we could have had a deal in 2006, in my judgment in what was then called the kennedy-mccain comprehensive immigration deal bill, could have had a deal except the left, in the person of two of those three people, insisted on chain migration. so there was the history of it. and we've got 20 of 30 million immigrants who have come to the country legally, 20 million of
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those, for those in the audience who don't know, were brought in not as immigrants but brought in as part of the chain migration. it's really a stunning impact. most immigrants come to this country as part of chain migration rather than being sought out for their skills, their talent, their education level. >> yeah. you're right, lou. and that's part of a huge problem we have in our country today. that's from the teddy kennedy chain in the immigration policy in the "60s. we've been going for basically three generations now with a focus on fa mealial ties instead of what is in the best interest of the united states of america. that's our problem and i'm sure hoping that we're not going to go that way where we grant this daca where we'll end up being two or three million people because they want chain migration.
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lou: how do you think the president will lead on this? >> well i think that he's going to insist, quite frankly, that we get the fep fence going. and i don't think we should just get money in there, we should see bricks and steal and mortar. lou: how about build too think e absolutely correct. thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks, lou. good to be with you. lou: there are amazing developments today in washington, d.c. and all focusing principally on daca but some on iran and the iranian nuclear deal. all of that and much more straight ahead. we're coming right back with it all. stay with us. president trump blasting the russia witch hunt calling it a democratic hoax. >> there has been no democrat collusion. no collusion. it was a hoax. >> saying the russian probe is
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lou: the biggest revelation out of some 300 pages of fusion gps testimony that was released unilaterally by democratic senator dianne feinstein yesterday is the curious claim somebody, quote, has already been killed over the trump dossier. the fusion gps attorney who made that assertion offered no details whatsoever, no further word whosoever. but the guessing game in washington has already begun. the speculation running rampant. given the discredited dossier that tells a sor link between president trump and the reutions. there are nine russians who were killed or died under mysterious circumstances in the months after president trump has been elected. some were diplomats or
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politicians, at least one standing out to the internet super speculators because of his links to the russian intelligence community. last december, the kgb0 le man s found dead in his car. he was reportedly suspect oded f working with british spy christopher steele as the speculators go. so it goes. president trump taking aim at democrat california senator dianne feinstein because she's the one that put out the gps fusion testimony over the objection and rules of the judiciary chairman. the president tweeted, the fact that sneaky dianne feinstein has stated that collusion between trump and russia has not been found would release testimony in
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such an underhanded and possibly illegal way totally without authorization is a disgrace, must have tough primary. well joining me now, republican congressman from florida, fran says rooney, vice chairman of the foreign affairs committee. great to have you with us. what do you make of senator feinstein releasing unilaterally that document? >> well it's highly unprecedented. i don't know whether it's illegal or not. but you now, the irony there is that she it because the investigation was undermined. but the fact of the matter is she undermined it a lot more and put out a lot more dots, the more of which you connect the worse this thing looks. lou: it is curious right now in washington where you have a number of people that mean exactly the opposite of what they say. a very very complex game is being played here.
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the president said it, in my opinion, absolutely correctly. right now we're watching the greatest witch five congressional committees we have in addition to that, of course, the fbi and the special counsel. we tallied up the amount of investigative time here, it's six and a half years of total investigative time have been spent in looking for some sign of collusion and there is no evidence, yet the speaker of the house, the republican speaker, the republican majority leader of the senate, congressman, they will not stand with the president and say end it. end it now. because it's stupid. it's wasteful. and it is certainly acting in the exact opposite of the interest of the nation. >> it certainly is. and in fact, lou, the more they dig, the worse it gets for them. now what we keep finding out is more and more unaccountable partisan deep state behavior, people that think the end
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justifies the means. that's not what we expect out of our civil service. this is worse than watergate for them. lou: pi think it's worse than watergate right now for the country. this is an instance in which without any evidence, a special counsel was brought to bear against a dually elected president of the united states. and without evidence, after all of these committees, the fbi, the special counsel's investigation. as i said, six and a half years of investigative time they continued to hound this president, to frustrate his policies, his administration and do so with the complicity of the left wing media and, as you say, the deep state as well as the establishments of both political parties. >> if you want to talk about criminality, let's talk about project cassandra where president obama build the dea off of hezbollah just to satisfy iran. let's talk about hillary clinton's e-mail and now huma
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abedin's e-mails. from what i understand, releasing classified documents doesn't require intent. lou: correct. and also extreme carelessness is a synonym for frankly gross negligence, which is actionable in an of itself. the semantic game was immaterial as to whether or not charges should have been brought. they should have been brought. >> and when you connect the dots that it was the agent that came up with the recommendation to comey to reduce the description of hillary clinton's behavior, he's the one that had the, quote, insurance to keep president trump from getting elected that they discussed in a high-ranking doj's office. lou: yet it is the special counsel going after this president, his administration and the republican leadership frankly doing no better than the democratic leadership because they will not, will not stand up
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and say it is enough. and it has to end now. do you think they'll ever find the guts, the integrity to do so? >> well i hope so. i thought senator grassley stepped up last week. i think chairman nunez stepped up last week. hopefully attorney general jeff sessions is going to get in the game and do serious internal review of what's going on in the deep state. lou: one can only hope that the attorney general will awaken. thank you very much, congressman. we appreciate your being here. >> thanks for having me on. lou: thank you. be sure to vote in the poll tonight. the question is this. do you believe the future of daca should be in the hands of president trump and the congress, not activists left-wing judges? cast your vote on twitter. i'd like to hear from you on this question, as we do all questions. follow me on twitter, like on im at least 17 people have been killed, two dozen people are
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missing after the devastating mudslides in southern california. more than 100 homes were also destroyed. heavy rain pounding hillsides stripped of plant life from recent wildfires and on wall street stocks ending the winning streak, the dow down 17 points from a record high set owed. the s&p down 3. the nasdaq big board 3.4 billion shares. investors concern china may slow or stop its purchases of u.s. treasuries. yields on u.s. treasuries rose for a fifth day in a row. the highest yield since last march. 2.5%. a reminder to listen to my reports three times a day coast to coast on the salem radio network. the leftist judiciary one again going after president trump. joining open border dems and rhinos who stand in his way.
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lou: well now we return to the issue of daca and the latest intervention by an activist federal judge, u.s. district court judge william alsup, an appointee of william jefferson clinton. he's acted to temporarily block the trump administration from phasing out daca until litigation plays out or congress comes up with a legislative solution. one of the lead plaintiffs in that case is none other than u.suniversity of california president janet napolitano. she in fact helped create daca in the first place. constitutional law professor slammed the liberal judge's
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decision as an amateur act. the white house calling the decision outrageous and president trump blasting our broken court system, accusing opponents of running to the ninth sir kite circuit, the appe court that will hear the case if it's appealed. the leftist ninth circuit has already targeted the trump administration over its travel bands and funding cuts for sanctuary cities. the supreme court has overturned the ninth circuit court's decisions 80% of the time. let's be clear. the federal courts are filled with dems who are committed to the left and judicial activism. in many cases they're committed to subverting the trump presidency and his administration. and as much as the president wants to work meaningfully with the dems, it is clear he faces what is simply an entrenched deep state aligned with both the dems and the republican
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establishment, who together mean to disrupt the president and his policies at every opportunity no matter does. and let me repeat, the head of the biggest business lobby in the country, the u.s. chamber of commerce yesterday talked with brett baer for about seven minutes, about all the president has achieved in his first year, acababout all of the great thins happening in our country. but not even once did donahue even mention the president by name while talking about 4% economic growth, historic stock market gains, about $7 trillion worth since the president was elected, 4% unemployment rate, historic tax reform. by the way, remember, president trump in tax reform gave american business a 40% tax cut.
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and the head of the biggest business lobby wouldn't even mention his name. the moral of the story is obvious. no matter what this president does, it will never be enough for the establishment and never enough to win either their favor or their support our quotation of the evening from abraham lincoln. he said this. "we the people are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts. not the overthrow the constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the constitution ." we're coming right back. stay with us. south korean president moon says president trump is responsible for the north korea talks. >> i just spoke to president moon. he's very thankful for what we've done. hopefully it will lead to success for the world, not just for our country but for the world. >> we take up the president's major contribution and strong stance on north korea with
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friday. sources tell fox news president trump doesn't want to recertify the deal but will hold his nose and do so because congress is making progress in his judgment on legislation to fix what the president believes is, at the very best, a highly flawed agreement or, as he said on the campaign trail, the worst deal he's ever seen. joining me now, fox business senior strategic and cyst jack deen, chairman of the institute. lou: the president, is it the right thing to do in your judgment, to recertify, holding his nose as the white house put it? >> i think it's about right. you know, what's happening there's congressional opinion and world opinion turning against the iranians. but three years into this deal, and you know, the purpose of this thing was supposedly to get the iranians to change their malign behavior and act as a
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responsible nation. so in the three years their malign behavior ballistic missiles, they killed protesters, put 3500 in jail. this is what the iranians are doing. where we are a few months later is the congressional mood is changing. if they can fix the nuclear deal, that's a better answer. lou: is it your judgment that it can be fixed legislatively? >> here's what they can do. the so-called sunset clauses which gives iran a nuclear threshold capability in ten years, and weapons capability in 15, take that out entirely and make where we are right now in terms of rich u rain yeum permanent. and secondly put into the deal an inspection and verifiable regime. all military bases have got to be no-notice basis. we can't get something like that in there and bring some of the other countries that sign the deal, we may have something.
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lou: it seems incredible to think that an american president created such a deal and signed such a deal without having the ability to inspect those facilities, you know, without the military basis being included and other key areas that could possibly be development sites for nuclear weaponry. >> their major researcher facility is at the military base and we don't have the authority to inspect it. lou: can we change who does the inspection, because the iaea has not been always reliable. >> i'm not certain we'll be able to have that kind of leeway to be able to change who does the inspection. but i think we can put some conditions down that would guarantee that those inspections would be done better than what they have been in the past. if t
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the olympics or not. but the south korean president giving mr. trump full credit for those talks being under way. your thoughts on progress and possibility. >> the north koreans go into it trying to buy time, get some good will to be sure. and also, i suspect they feel some pressure because of the economic sanctions. i do think -- look. talking is better than shooting. that's the reality. and the president's instincts are to negotiate. i think we may see him at some point enter into negotiations with the north koreans and the south koreans. and there may be a deal in the making. and certainly it's a lot better than the two chieses in fron chf us right now, either war or accept a nuclearized north korea. lou: if we can pull that off, the nobel peace prize committee
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our report. >> i came to congress for a four-year tour and i stayed for now going on 18. >> california republican congressman darrel isa is the latest in a wave of departures. he rejected the thought that his district could go to a democrat in november. >> the economy says everything about the policies that my party and this president helped champion. it's a good time to go out on top. >> at this stage, 32 republicans, 14 democrats are retiring or running for other office. the number of republican departures is the most for one party since 1994, during president clinton's first congress in the republican revolution. this year's departures include seven current committee chairman, paul ryan and kevin mccarthy must deal with the substantial loss of institutional knowledge. mccarthy downplayed the significance of the lawmakers
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the main streamed media found itself in uncharted territory praising donald trump for holding a bipartisan meeting. >> lawmakers having to gram with the president in what would usually be closed door meeting about an immigration deal, that's something worthwhile. >> it's refreshing. there is back and forth. i think trump is a negotiator. >> this was a negotiation. i think the bottom line is this is a year ago, this is the presidency that's people thought donald trump was capable of. lou: joining us ed rollins and
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michael goodwin. did you ever think you would see wolf blitzer with bob acosta rinsing intently as he parades the president of the united states? >> must have been difficult for both of them. what struck me, lou, have they not been paying attention until now? the meeting was remarkable by standards. but trump's performance at the meeting was not remarkable. lou: i thought he looked like he was center ring at the circus and every line and elephant was jumping wherever he said. michael: i have not doubt that's who he is anyway. just the idea i'm surprised this is a donald trump we haven't seen before, somehow the way they have criticized him --
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ed: this was not a negotiation, this was a conversation. they didn't even understand the terms. what dianne feinstein was talking about and what donald trump was talking about were two different things. lou: feinstein trying to roll the president saying let's do a clean daca bill. ed: sign here and we'll fiction the rest of it later. i think the key thing here is we need as we talked many times, a comprehensive immigration bill. daca is part of it. security is part of it and immigration is part of it. lou: every time i hear the word "comprehensive i think of ted kennedy and john mccain.
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ed: you can't do it piecemeal. lou: two points. build the damn wall. secure the damn border. >> that's one piece. lou: you decide how many people you want in. ed: that's a comprehensive bill. that's what i'm talking about. michael: i think the thing not on the table is the 11 million here illegally other than the so-called dreamers. >> how many dreamers are here? >> a million roughly. if you talk about the 11 million who are here, adults. then you open the gates to something you cannot possibly resolve. the dreamers you have to do the chain migration issue.
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2/3 of all immigration into this country since 1981 has brinlt of chain migration and illegal immigration. folks, we have broken borders, a broken system and a cowardly, cowardly government. >> it's not going to get fixed piecemeal. i'm telling you. i lived through it in '86. lou: you were one of the perpetrators. ed: i was one of the last republicans to have to negotiate with a sheep herder from wyoming. lou are it's stunning stuff. let's turn to the reality. that is if we don't secure the border, $60 billion a year and
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meth am get means, heroin, cocaine are coming into the country in marijuana. if we don't fix the border the cartels will continue to make all of that money plus what they get for human smuggling. all the contraband that crosses that border. this is not a game. this is a reality and the president campaigned against those. he's the only presidential candidate in history, the on president in history to say to the cartels, you know, you are done. >> i think this is going to be the stumbling block for democrats. they have never wanted -- they talked about this for 20 years. but they never wanted to secure the border. they have under barack obama especially -- lou: that's also the result of the republican establishment. the chamber of commerce and the
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business round table would puke if you said they couldn't har moneyize our borders with canada and mexico. the canadians are worried that president trump will change nafta so it's not been fition to them or mexico. there we are drawing down $70 billion in trade deficits every year. ed: i have never seen a bill all the years i have been around congress, they always want to spend more. i have never seen an immigration bill where they didn't want to let more people in with less security. lou: you know what would be a good test on daca. the president wants to move ahead on daca. the democrats do. why not set the number. we are told the number is $700,000 to 788,000.
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issue the necessary visas to incorporate those people for whatever period. forego the pathway to amnesty right now. it doesn't have to be done. give them that opportunity. but do it by number so the game we are talking about 11 million immigrants. that's bent number since 2006. everybody talks about 11 million as if no one has come into this country. that's bull. there are at least in my judgment somewhere around 20 million immigrants in this country. talk about the 20 million who have come in under chain migration. we are the dumbest country in the world. ed: the added danger is the mexican border is the flood zone. but the reality is with all the immigrants all over the world moving around, and everybody want to go come to a place like
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us is a serious long-term problem if we don't fix it. lou: that's it for us tonight. thank you for being with us. good night from new york. kennedy: president trump surprising some core supporters with new decisions on immigration and the global elite. does he risk alienating his base? will lawmakers finally have the courage to stop the feds from spying on americans? and the left-wing media freaking over the so-called dirty dossier testimonies. what's in it? is it a big deal? grab a hammer, time to smash this thing. bannon is band. sloppy steve resigned in disgrace from "breitbart" news after his remarks about the president and his family set off a
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