tv After the Bell FOX Business January 16, 2018 4:00pm-5:00pm EST
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energy and a lot of stamina. i think i first noticed that, we traveled overseas, travel last year and, i was really surprised because i didn't know the president early on when, the days we would get these 14, 16-hour days. the staff is just spent after a while. man, when are we going to the hotel? you have issues of different time zones and things of that nature too. out of everybody there, the president had more stamina and energy than just about anybody there. he said we'll not skip this event. we'll not skip this, we'll do this, do that, stuck to the schedule, to let's forget the rest of the day. reporter: explain to me how a guy who eats mcdonald's, diet cokes, never exercises in as good a shape as you say he is? >> called genetics. some people have great genes. i told healthier diet the last
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20 years he might live to 200 years old. he has incredible betweens -- genes i would assume. if i didn't watch what i eat, i wouldn't have cardiac and overall health. he is very healthy despite those things. i don't think he does that anymore. he is in the white house now. he is eating what the chefs are cooking for him now. they are cooking a much healthier diet. we'll continue to work on that make it healthier. i guess answer to the question is he had incredibly good genes. and that is the way god made him. reporter: thank you. you mentioned the eva. was that the mini mental state examination or, if not, can you tell what specific cognitive tests? >> montreal cognitive assessment referred to as the moca. it is online.
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reporter: do you have a life expectancy range for him based on his results? number two, what is exercise plan. elliptical machine? also any evidence of bone spurs the president suffers from? >> none of that stuff has been bothering him recently. we didn't examine him for bone spurs. he didn't come to me complaining of that. there is no reason in this particular assessment. we're crunched for time with everything we had done. we didn't look at issues like that. as far as life expectancy, i will say he probably won't live to be 200. i don't know i think is life expectancy, is the same as every other american male but certainly no less. reporter: dietary and exercise plan, what is in store? >> we're working that out. one of the thing i'm get agnew tricks specialist to come up to meet with the chefs we have here. they will go over the preparation of the president's
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food, to make sure we're cutting calories and fats and carbohydrates as much as we possibly can, still making a good meals for him. with regards to the exercise, that is something that myself, potentially mrs. trump will work with him upstairs. there is a gym upstairs. we'll get that set up to his specifications. we'll see, we'll see how that goes. reporter: one scoop of ice cream now? >> i don't limit his diet at all. i make recommendations. reporter: one follow-up question, there isn't anything that is a part of the president's health records or his overall physical fitness or any medications that he is taking you're not permitted to tell us? is there anything you're keeping from us for privacy reasons? >> i can promise you have is absolutely nothing i'm with holding for this. i've done the last four or five of these. i've been involved in probably the last six or seven of these, this is hands down more information that has been put
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forth by any other, any other assessment to date. i was, friday was a good day for me. friday made today exceptionally easy for me. when we left friday, it was good for me. it made this much, much easier for me today. no, i'm not withholding anything and i have reviewed the president's past medical records to the ex-extent they are made available to me and nothing at all concerning to me. reporter: doctor, given the president's age, near president reagan was at time of his presidency, given there was scrutiny overlooked at time with president reagan in terms of alzheimer's he was then known to suffer at later date, can you say whether the tests that you ran was exclude any of those things? what is the possibility of overlooking something like that would be? how can you tell the american people this time you're certain? >> i can say that test, you know, i don't know president
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reagan's actual medical condition and i don't know what his condition was like toward the end of his presidency. i have seen things and seen document i interests like everybody here but let's assume he did have some, you know, evidence of cognitive impairment toward the end of his presidency i think that i can reliably say, i think that folks in the mental health community out there would back me up on the fact that if he had some type of mental cognitive issue that this test is sensitive enough it would pick up on it. he would not got 30 out of 30 on the test. i'm confident at this particular stage he has nothing like that going on. my personal experience that he is, he has absolutely no, you know, cognitive or mental issues whatsoever. that he is very sharp. reporter: ask you a quick question about psa. are you confident of his prostate health?
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you recite ad very low psa you're not not a product of masking? >> it may be his psa is very low but we have no indication whatsoever on prostate exam and based on his previous psas that he has any prostate issue going on. a lot of people recommend you don't even do a psa anymore. i did one because we had a long history of psas on previous exams when i reviewed his past medical record. i thought it made sense to do one. if i had seen a large bump in his psa that would be concerning but we're not going down. reporter: president's weight, 239, just shy of obesity. you're confident of that number? >> we don't do mesh sense. height and weight, never put him in the bmi calculator. we have never done measurements. there is not a lot of point.
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he would be healthier if he lost a few pounds. that is what we'll do. doing measurements and getting some other form of calculation wouldn't have really changed anything clinically for us. reporter: cognitive testing in the future because of his age, an continuing his physicals in the future will you continue the cognitive testing. >> that will be totally up to the president like i said before. i didn't feel it was clinically indicated on this round. so i will continue to monitor the president over the next year. i will talk to him on regular basis. i will visit with him every opportunity. i spend lots and lots of time with him next year. if i have any indication we need to do it or come up with anything on any of his exams clinically indicate we should do that, yes i would recommend do that. short of that if the president wants to get one done next year we'll do another one next year. reporter: recommended most baby boomers get tested for hepatitis-c. has he done a hep-c test or one
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previously? >> he had a hep-c test remotely. i found that in his past medical record. i did not do this one this time. reporter: you talked a little bit about the diet here at the white house. can you flesh that out here what he is specifically eating of chickens and fishes, white meats? also does he take any sleep aids? >> so the president, first off, i have to admit to you, you know, that i see what he eats on the plane some, eats same food we eat on the plane which is fairly healthy meals mine news deserts we get. i have not been actively involved in his diet as i will be years to come. i don't have a lot of information on that now. he asked me to get the nutrition it involved which basically given me permission to become involved in that and i will. so i will have more information on that next year. and what was the other question? the president does take ambien on occasion on overseas travel. when we travel from one, you
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know time zone to another time zone on the other side of the planet i recommend that everyone on the plane take sleep aid at certain times so we can try our best to get on the schedule of our destination. he has on those occasions done that. reporter: what about here at white house? >> here at white house? only during travel. reporter: how much sleep does he get on average? >> he doesn't sleep much. i would say that, you know this is just my guess based on being around him, i didn't ask him this question so i could be wrong on this, he sleeps four to five hours a night. you know i think, he is probably been that way his whole life. one of the reasons he is successful. me personally i need a lot more sleep than that he is one of those people that does not require a lot of sleep. reporter: can you say whether your prediction of good health in years to come still holds if the president does not make changes to his diet, does not exercise? is that your professional
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medical opinion? can you tell us how long the examination was start to finish and how many people were involved? >> i don't know i guess it will depend. this time next year we do a lot of same tests, cardiac assessments and everything else. when we get the objective data next year, we'll recalibrate. if he made a lot of changes i assume he will be even better shape than he is right now, if, he's, if he's eating better and lost a few pounds but you know, even if he hasn't, i won't make at that assessment without doing a lot of objective testing we just did this time. so and other question was? reporter: how long was the entire exam and how many people were involved? >> the exam lasted about four plus hours. so i think there are, well, about four hours i think and i had a total of, i believe 12 consultants involved in it. i don't, i don't execute these physicals in a vacuum. i have a lot of specialists
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available it me. just like on a day-to-day basis i'm somewhat of a quarterback with regard to his care. so i spent weeks speaking with consultants and trying to figure out how to plan his exam appropriately and what was appropriate for his exam. so it was a team effort with a lot of physicians at walter reed who did a great job helping me take care of him. reporter: thank you, dr. jackson. was there anything that the president or anyone else specifically said for you not to mention today? >> absolutely not. as a matter of fact of fact there is a lot of things here, are you okay with me mentioning it? absolutely, i don't care. so, yeah, go ahead. reporter: follow up on that, some of the president's friend have told reporters in past they think he is germaphobe. that he washes his hands obsessive i havely concerned about that. do you see that type of behavior being around the president? >> he washes his hands frequently. he uses purell. as many hands he shakes a day he
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would be a fool not to. as long as he washes hand and uses purell i would not discourage that would i continue to be a bit of a germaphobe and make my job easier around the day. reporter: how would you characterize the president's health to average 71-year-old american male? >> based on his cardiac assessment, hand down no question he is in excellent range from cardiac standpoint. that is not me speaking. that is objective data. you look at data that was collected, he will definitely fall into that category. reporter: cardiac or everything? >> cardiac. look at his vision. he is 71 years old. his bilateral uncorrected vision is 20/30. he can drive if he wants to without glasses a lot of people his age can't do that. so i think you know, if you look a lot of things across the board, he is, he is very healthy. so that is why i put out in the statement that the president's
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health is excellent. because the president's over all health is excellent. can he do some things like diet and exercise to, of course he has excellent health. reporter: dr. jackson, taking cholesterol lowering medication and borderline obese, can you characterize that excellent health? >> his heart is very healthy. all things looking at, you're a neurosurgeon. there is stroke issues there too but you we're focusing on his cardiac health and you know, as an indicator what the rest of his, you know, vascular health might be like. he has very, no evidence of peripheral vascular disease. his heart exam, like i said was excellent category for his age and sex. i think despite that you mentioned i think you're doing a decent job with the cholesterol, i would say the dose of his cholesterol medicine is very
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low. he takes a very low dose of his cholesterol medicine right now. we have a lot of room to increase that most cardiologists would put a patients on larger dose of cholesterol medicine to start with. we'll up that and i suspect that his cholesterol will, ldl, will fall even more. if we dot diet and exercise, i just don't think he has got much room to do anything else. reporter: concerns, you said there were strokes concerns? >> i was talking to dr. gupta saying it is not just the heart that he is asking questions about. i understand he is asking questions about vascular health including heart disease and stroke and stuff. i'm saying we're looking at that we're looking at his vascular health overall. it looks very good right now. reporter: what about diabetic changes because of his weight. >> he is good. reporter: what about potential of weight as he gets older? >> that is possibility of that.
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his home globe bin a1c is normal. he has no evidence of diabetes at all. we'll continue to be routine thing we do every year with fasting blood glucose with hemoglobin and a1c. reporter: did you test his hearing? >> we did not test his hearing. the only reason i didn't test the hearing, we didn't have enough time. we had the exam packed and hearing is seemed low on the priority list right now. it is something i can do at any given point of the we will do that. i will get a baseline hearing test on him because i generally do that. reporter: when the president has colonoscopy at next physical will he be sedated? >> that is up to the president. i will recommend that he is because, you can do virtual colonoscopies where you're not sedated. i have patients do both. i'll a big fan of optical colonoscopy. i will recommend if he does it next year he be sedated to do
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optical -- >> part of decision-making process to handing over power to the vice president while he is sedated? >> i will make recommendations on that with the chief of staff and national security council and everybody else. i won't make that decision but i will be a part of that discussion. reporter: thank you. you say that the president was the one who requested that cognitive tests. that it wasn't necessarily needed for someone of his age. did you, did he tell you why he wanted it done? there has been a lot of speculation out there about his cognitive state. was he upset with some of that talk? when were the discussions that you had from what he told you, this is why i want to do it? why did he say he wanted to do it? >> he wasn't upset with it but that did drive the part of the process. this has been the narrative for a while. he saw doing the physical as opportunity to put some of that to rest. he wasn't obviously the least bit concerned that he had
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anything to hide. so he, he actively asked me to include that in it so we did. that i think -- >> was there any one incident that kind of made him you know, say, hey, this is something i want to do or this collection of voices you know, of criticisms or -- >> not that i'm aware of. didn't mention any one particular incident to me. the reason it came up i was going over the physical exam, discussing all the things we would do and giving him a run down what we would do that day and asked me at that point could i include this in the assessment. it didn't driven by anything happened -- >> no outside criticism. >> he didn't discuss any of that stuff with me. he asked me hey, can we do this? so we did. reporter: president's stress level in your conversations and in your examinations did he express any change how stressful this job or lack of stress he has experienced as a result of becoming president? >> no, i talked to him sometimes about stress, you know, just
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because i think it is my job as his physician to bring that up on occasion as i do with many other members of the administration. i have negative seen the president you know, stressed out about too much. he, i think, one thing that i noticed about him i think is unique, this is just my personal opinion, this is nothing to do with my medical assessment i think one of the, one of the things he has that's unique that i think is probably, i would just assume led to some of his success over the years he has a very unique ability to get up in the morning and reset. i've seen it before where things are going on, i think, a lot of people around him, in myself if i were in that situation would get up the next morning, the next day would build on the day before i would get more and more stressed. he has unique ability to push the reset button. he gets up, starts a new day. overall that helped him with his stress level and with his, you know, made him healthier from a stress standpoint.
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>> follow up on that. questions from a few of my colleagues regarding an exercise routine for the president. you said you had these conversations with him. take us through specific exercises that you and the president are considering as you look at this routine? >> i think you know, just, there is a variety of ways to do this. he can do stationary bike. you can do eliptical. you can do a treadmill. i want to do something low impact. i don't want the to do something that the president will have joint issues. how we can do something aerobically and minimal impact on his joints and i apapproach him with that best option. reporter: [inaudible] should he cut back on that? >> i will not comment on that. i would comment on that if my five-year-old. not if you're the president. he can watch as much tv he wants. i don't know how much tv he
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watches. reporter: television watching versus active lifestyle part of isn't. >> i don't know what he is doing when he is watching tv most of the time. he might be in the office. he might be seated. i just don't know. i think he probably spend as much time seated in sedentary role as lot of us do have office jobs. i don't think watching tv really contributes to that much in my opinion. reporter: you performed a cognitive assessment? >> right. reporter: what do you your take of all the doctors and clinicians who said in this president they see symptoms of this, that or other? >> symptoms what way? reporter: symptoms of dementia. symptoms of -- >> i would say the the american psychiatric association said so. people shouldn't make those assessments about the president unless they have the opportunity to get to know him and examine him. that is tabloid psychiatry. i will not address it or fall into you know, to responding to those kinds of questions or
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accusations. reporter: how would you describe his diet before he became president? a lot has been said about too much mcdonald's, too many burgers, do you think it was problematic? >> to be honest with you. i have same information you have. i didn't know the president before january 20th. i never saw him eat a meal before january 20th. i have no information on that. >> thank you. you said you're not sure how much sleeps he gets a night. you assume four to five hours. does that concern you? would you recommend him to get more sleep? >> sure i think more sleep for all of us would be helpful. it doesn't really concern me. i think it is his nature. he has always been that way. it works for him. it wouldn't work for me. but it, woulds for him. if he could get more sleep it would be great. i don't think that is likely to happen. that is the way he is wired. in the back? reporter: tell the current president about his predecessors exercise routine? does this president ask about
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how he could follow his predecessors example to be as fit as barack obama was? and second question, do you keep a tally how much golf the u.s. president plays? that is something the press office repeatedly does not tell us? do you keep a tally and do you consider that exercise? >> no, i have not had that conversation. no, i don't keep a tally. and yes, like everything else being on the golf course there is certain amount of exercise involved in that. next question? reporter: dr. jackson does the president take any medication you haven't disclosed here today. >> he does not. he take any medication that i have not disclosed here. reporter: what is the cognitive exam and does that rule out any other cognitive exam. >> it does. see online what it is all about. you can, it is easy to pull it up on line. montreal cognitive assessment. you can see it right there, what
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all it entails. it rules out the need to do any other cognitive testing that is the reason you do it. it is a screening tool. if you do well on it, i think anything above 26 is normal. if you do certain, if you get 30 out of 30 i think you can confidentially assume you're done on the cognitive workup for now. reporter: do you have any concerns that president using twitter? >> yeah, twitter doesn't involve me as a doctor. i don't have any concern on that. reporter: thank you, dr. jackson. the president is the first lifelong tea totaller and non-smoker to since in the oval office to sit in the oval office since president jimmy carter. can you say that extended his life in any way and makes him unusually healthier for his age? >> i think it has big impact, especially smoking part of it. like i said he has incredible cardiac fitness at this point in
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his life. i think a large part of that is probably due to the fact that he has had a life of abstinence from tobacco and alcohol. particularly tobacco. reporter: thank you. you mentioned a whole bunch of doctors that participated in friday's exam. there are other questions say about the president's emotional health. is there anyone on the president's medical team such as a psychiatrist or psychologist whose job it is to monitor the president's emotional state or watch for potential psychiatric problems or indicators of those? >> no that is not anyone's official duty. i have all specialists at my disposal, both civilian and military, including psychiatry should i need them but that is really my job as his primary care doctor and i'm pretty suited for it in the sense that i see him on a regular basis he have day. so i think that, that that falls upon me to do that.
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reporter: [inaudible] recommendations to the president again medication -- or -- >> recommend any type of alternative medicine. reporter: any recommendations against meditation -- [inaudible] >> sure i think those are all, relaxation methods. i think that you know, in general, any of us that can get in involved in that i think those are helpful. they make you healthier. i'm not opposed to you know, him being involved in those kind of things in the future. reporter: realistically what you do i you will get them to do as far as exercise? i don't know if he has exercise buddies or needs one. >> we will get him to do sufficient. we'll make progress. reporter: like what? >> i don't know.
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we'll see. it will be aerobic exercise. like i said it will be something that spares his joints and healthy for him. so we're going to work on that. reporter: thank you, doctor. will your office be working with the white house chef at all in terms of formulating what kind of diet he is going to need? >> am i working with him? reporter: some sort of like set plan? >> like i said, right, like i said to this point i haven't been as involved in that as i want to be but i'm getting, i will become much more involved in that relationship from this point forward since the president has given me direction to do so. reporter: you made a statement saying that you expect the president to be in good health for the duration of his term or even a second term if he gets it. was there a specific request from the president to make that statement or from nip in the administration or anyone in the
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white house? >> no, absolutely not. someone asked a question regarding fitness for duty. you know, it is a natural extension of the fitness for duty assessment now and for the remainder of his presidency. i followed that up with one term or two terms. no one had prompted me or prepped me to answer in any such way. reporter: you've been answering questions more than 50 minutes according to my take which is really extraordinary. is that an indication for the president's desire to put all the rumors and questions to rest once and for you will? >> absolutely. the president encouraged me to come out and specifically told me and want you to get out there and talk to them and answer every single question they have. [laughter]. he called sarah, told sarah, i do not want you pulling him off the stage, you leave him up there until he is ready to come off. two reasons, one because the president wants me up here. two, because as of friday i was
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pretty excited about getting up here and talking about his health because friday was a good day. and it gave me a lot of, it made me enthusiastic about being up here today. so that is really where we're going. reporter: [inaudible] >> absolutely. reporter: one more question about the montreal exam and mental status exams, they're pretty good but they're not sensitive with someone high functioning. they're not good finding early stages of dementia. if the president is worried about it would you recommend normore sophisticated exams. >> if he is worried about it, but i think they are pretty specific finding subtle cognitive changes. at least everything i read about him, they, you know they will tell you the psychiatrist and school gift that utilize these things will tell you that they will pick up stuff, you know, that even the patient sometimes is not aware of. so i think that they're great screening tools. i think short of having any type
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of issue with that, with a cognitive screening tool i wouldn't recommend doing anything beyond that. reporter: are you saying, this is my ignorance are we saying that because of reagan, we had issues with reagan, and the issues about this president, cognitive testing mental acuity test something not commonly part of an annual physician can with the president of the united states? >> i'm saying, i'm totally unaware of this ever being done before. as far as i know no president ever had a cognitive assessment as president of the united states. this is the very first time it ever happened. if anybody is aware happening it before they have information i don't have. i looked pretty extense. i know most of the physicians taken care of last three, four, five presidents and it never has been done. reporter: with the power he wields should out not be? >> in my opinion as physician, no. if the american public somehow
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thinks that is part of an assessment for a president i suppose they can incorporate that into, you know your ability to run for president or serve in office but that is really not my call. i approach the president like i would any other patient. and he has gone above and beyond what i would consider a requirement to demonstrate his cognitive abilities. reporter: so the question -- [inaudible] >> is it healthy for him? to be outside, you know, it's a good way to you know, relief a little stress. if that is what he enjoys doing, i think it is healthy for him to do it. reporter: thank you. you said he doesn't drink and he doesn't smoke and other than the diet issue, did you test for drug addiction. >> drug addiction? reporter: any other drugs?
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>> he has no drug addiction. [laughter] [inaudible] sarah told me to wrap it up. take one more question from somebody else. one more question. back there. reporter: thanks again. so could you give us sense how involved the first family, first lady, his daughter, others encouraging him to be, step up on the exercise? >> sure, yeah they're involved in it. his, ivanka, and mrs. trump are both proponents of eating healthier and exercising. so they will be partners of mine in, you know working this out. they're involved in it. absolutely. sorry, wasn't trying to be disrespectful trying to spread the wealth. reporter: with all the questions being asked, going back to that issue, everyone asked about mental a cutie and those
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questions, sarah told you stay up here until the questions are answered. going forward would you recommend that presidents undergo that type of testing? >> no, i don't think so, like i said. i'm comfortable with the algorithms that are out there. most of the algorithms out there start with personal observation and observation you know, of physician, you know, the patient and you know the family and the patient and they go to screening questions after that. then after screening questions they go to a screening assessment tool like the one we used f that is, you know, abnormal some way, then they go on to other types more detailed cognitive testing. there is healthy algorithm in place. i think, that in the future that should be a decision between you know, the president and their physician and i would have no problem in the future if someone takes my place, another president here following with that particular algorithm. i'm comfortable with thatal gore rich. had i followed that algorithm to a t we would not have done the
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test. we did the test because the president specifically added to the exam. that is it, twice. all the questions i've taken. thank you, very much appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> that was informative. think we covered just about everything that we could possibly think of when it comes to the president's health because it is late in the afternoon, and we've been in the room for an hour and i know you all have probably stories to write and things to follow we'll keep this last little bit pretty short. i will take a few questions but we'll keep today pretty short and go ahead and dive right in. reporter: sarah, the president still scheduled to release the fake news report tomorrow. when and how will that be done? >> we will keep you posted any details around that potential event and what that would look like. john? reporter: thank you, sarah. widely reported yesterday in contrast to his past three predecessors, the president did not take any part in any
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memorials of dr. martin luther king, jr., or appeared in any public functions on that. any reason why? >> the president participated in an event on friday to honor the life of service of martin luther king, jr. and we would like to continue to do projects and events throughout the year and not just have one day but certainly wanted to recognize that here at the white house through the event on friday and will continue to be involved in efforts and opportunities moving forward over the course of the year, and over the course of the president's term. halle? reporter: immigration discussions that he thought the president was on track to come to a deal with him and senator durbin up to two hours before last week's immigration oval office meetings on thursday. something happened between 10:00 and 12. he said president got bad advice from staff members including potentially stephen miller or
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john kelly. what happened in the two hours? is stephen miller running the show? what is going on? >> to be very clear the president is running the show here at the white house and, look i was part of this process and part of the conversations that went on. the president simply, as he looked at the deal, he wants a good deal, he wants the right deal. he laid out what his priorities were, what needed to be included in any piece of legislation and simply failed to address the things that were laid out. specifically one of the areas that really, really fell short was the funding for border security. they only put in about fun 10th of what the department of homeland security said they needed. not what they wanted, but what they said they needed. this is simply complete failure in terms of a good deal based on what the president had laid out. based on what he wanted to see in a piece of legislation. hopefully we get there. we'll still continue working with members of both republicans
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and democrats a house and senate members to try to make a deal on daca and make sure we include those components that the president very clearly has laid out. reporter: merit-based -- >> i will pop around today on short time frame. reporter: picking off what you left on, a good deal include preferring white immigrants from norway than black and brown immigrants from haiti? >> not at all. it is opposite the by definition the merit-based system is color-blind. it noise the based on race, not based on religion, not based on country of origin, based on merits whether or not the person contributes to society. it erases those things and makes it a much more fair system instead of picking and choosing trying to meet different quotas and different things. it is merit-based system, a system most democrats voted and supported just years ago. now that this president is championing it i think they're showing just absolute signs and definition of what hypocrisy
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look likes. look the bottom line is, we want a deal on daca. they want a deal on daca. we want a deal on border security. they want a deal on border security. they said they support these things. they have also said in the past they support merit-based immigration. i don't see what is complicated here. we all want the same things. democrats need to quit playing politics and doing what they were elected to do, that is governing. they need to come to the table with a real deal based on the parameters that were discussed in the meeting that most of you saw, let's try to get something done for the american people. reporter: he did mention country of origin. the fact of matter, countries he mentioned, one is very white and others are very not white. that is about race, is it not? >> no it is not. the president laid out what he wants to see in immigration process. that is a merit-based system. you can not argue with the priority that he has laid out and what that looks like, how it actually levels the playing field and opposite of what you're suggesting. blake? reporter: pick up from what
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hallly asked, something clearly changed between tuesday, the bring me any deal you agree to. >> he didn't say any deal any two people agree to. i'm confident you will come together and address the situation and concerns we have laid out and you will answer the call that has been made. that simply didn't happen in the deal. reporter: you say gave you 1/10 of border wall funding f more money comes for the wall you have a daca deal? >> we want to see end to chain migration, see an end to visa lottry system and merit-based immigration. those are the components we laid out. president viewpoint on this has been consistent. it hasn't changed but what was reflected in the deal wasn't what the president laid out. jordan. reporter: thank you. is president concerned what steve bannon might say before
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the house intelligence committee? >> no. >> with all con aggression inquiries touching upon the white house, the congress must cult with the white house prior to obtaining material this, is process going back decades. we've been cooperating fully with on going committees and urge the committees to find appropriate -- congress necessary to achieve the legitimate interest. reporter: president said he wants immigrants to come in from everywhere. does everywhere include six countries on the travel ban list. >> like the president said he wants immigrants to come from everywhere, but wants to do that through a merit-based system. shannon. reporter: does merit-based system ending tps program so the u.s. would no longer provide safe haven to countries with natural disaster civil unrest? >> that is different part of the conversation. and i think one of the things to remind people of, tps program,
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look at name of the program, it is temporary. it is not meant to be permanent. we're looking for permanent solutions. we don't want to put a bandaid on the situation. we want to fix the problem. simply doing one piece of this immigration reform isn't enough. it has to be responsible immigration reform and that is what this administration will continue to push for. reporter: can you explain, this is still an open question. how did senators cotton and perdue get here to the white house on thursday? who invited them? >> the president. reporter: why? >> doesn't seem like open question. reporter: why did he invite them? senators durbin and graham wanted to presenter the proposal. why did the president feel he needed other people in the room? >> the president a few days prior when he had a large group of people here the president wanted to have multiple people that have been part of this conversation, that have been part of the foundation that they had worked on days prior to that in the room as part of discussion. it was a decision he made. i guess i'm lost on why the president having two republican
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senators who have been in the midst of this entire discussion continue to be part of the discussion, if anything, i think he should be celebrated for including more voices instead of limiting it to two. he broadened field and brought additional people into the room. not just those two members but several others as well. reporter: [inaudible] why not encourage steve bannon to be completely transparent today on capitol hill an -- >> no one encouraged him to be anything but transparent but there is a process of, what that looks like and what that process should go through and that -- reporter: not answering some questions, right? >> i can't speak to that. that is something that i would refer to attorneys on that matter and specifically steve bannon's attorneys. look, we've been completely cooperative throughout this entire process. we're going to continue to be cooperative but we're also going to maintain some of the executive privileges here at the
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white house that have been practice is ited for decade and that need to be maintained. sorry -- ashley. reporter: [inaudible]. >> go ahead. reporter: in that meeting president reportedly used vulgarity. the white house said he did not use the specific words. president said that as well. number of people in administration used tough language, rough language. can you clear what president did say? >> i was not in the word only go off the who individuals were but term wasn't used and tough language was. no one here will pretend like the president is always politically correct. he isn't. that is one of the reasons the american people love him. one of the reasons that he won sitting in the oval office today is because he isn't a scripted robot. he is somebody tells things like they are sometimes and sometimes he does use tough language of the point that he is trying to make, the point that the entire conversation frankly should be focused on is the issue at hand.
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we wasted five days, fighting over one word but should be fighting over people involved in the daca program. if democrats really want to protect these individuals that is who they should be fighting for. that is what they should be fighting about, figuring out a permanent solution to dacap, not a quick fix. figuring out to secure the our border, increasing border security. figuring out how to end chain migration and ending the visa lottery system. they're wasting time, complaining about the president not doing enough when he is only one really engaging in this process much. hopefully they will get on board, get out of the way and start actually doing their jobs. reporter: two wick questions. one the deal does not look like it is in sight, three days until the federal government doesn't have anymore money. -- >> want to be clear. talking about the budget or daca? reporter: right now there is no deal. the president support short term cr to get it through the next
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now weeks? >> we certainly don't want the government to shut down, but we would still like to see a budget deal that is a two-year budget deal, that is a clean budget deal. we haven't given up on that. we hope democrats will not hold the government hostage and not stop military spending and will not stop allowing our country and our is nation to be protected because they failed to stop using political ploy and they started actually governing. that is it what we're hoping for. jonathan. sorry, i'm, we're tight on time. i'm going to hope. jonathan. reporter: clarify exactly what has been denied here? because the day of that meeting thursday night, white house put out a statement that did not deny what the president said widely reported. we spent five days talking about one word. is that only thing being disputed in the denial, which profanity the president used? do you deny the general
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characterization? do you deny -- >> i certainly deny the general characterization. i go back to the fact sometimes the president does use tough language. i wasn't in the room. so, i can only rely off of the individuals that were and those that have come out and publicly spoken about said they didn't recall those specific phrases being used. look the bottom line is, president wants to see a deal done. he wants to protect daca. he wants to make sure we have increased border security. he wants an end to chain migration. end to visa lottery system. those are the priorities. that is our focus. that is what we're talking about, whether you guys are talking about or not. i will take one more question. reporter: follow up on shannon's question. will the president agree to some kind of deal to trade -- [inaudible] >> i not aware of that particular agreements. reporter: will he trade off? >> i have to look what our
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priorities. it would have to depend on entire piece of legislation. on something may or may not exist. reporter: tough to find on the hill, at one point she was in the meeting she was surprised by the fact that the folks in that meeting were using such profane language s that something that bothers the president at all? how often does he use that language we're talking about? >> you would have to be more specific in terms of, i guess -- reporter: profanity. how often does he use it? >> has he used a word? probably so again i don't think again the basis of what the focus of the ming was. and certainly not what the focus off the white house was. take one last one, aisha has been patient. welcome back. reporter: thank you. i want to pinpoint, i know this has been talked about when you say the president he is not politically correct, so, would the white house then consider if there was some type of der interrogatory language used to describe haiti or africa, or
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countries of africa to say these are not good countries to come from, that is the issue of being politically correct? >> i can speak to my experience. i never heard him say anything like that or similar to that specifically. i am talking more generally, that, sometimes the president can be politically incorrect. i think sometimes you guys have heard him. i wasn't speaking to that moment exactly. i was talking more generally. but i have never heard him make a reference like that and so certainly, can't speak to anything beyond that at this point. thanks so much, guys. have a good day. >> what about the rough language. david: white house press secretary zare are you -- sarah huckabee sanders, tough talk in the white house. she had a hard act to follow. we were treated to 45 minutes of details about the president's health examination by dr. ronnie jackson, a guy who has seen president obama before trump and president gw bush before him.
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and the audience just wouldn't take no for an answer because the question was always, isn't he sick? doesn't he have mental problems? and the doctor had about 100 different ways of saying no. melissa: does he wear dentures? what is his waste size? he is a drug addict? does he have hep-c. he is just shy of obesity and watch too much tv? he weren't on and on. all the answers were truly disappointing to those in the room. david: i'm david asman. melissa: i'm melissa francis. this is "after the bell." joe bother rolly, former -- borelli, former trump campaign and james freeman, "wall street journal," fox news contributor. dr. marc siegel fox news medical analyst. dr. siegel, they were really grasping at straus. they couldn't wrap their brains around the idea, he doesn't exercise, he is not getting on eliptical and he will live
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forever and they started crying. >> you have that about right, melissa. i thought a lot of questions were actually answered today. it is disrespectful to dr. jackson, emergency-room trained, been with the white house since gw bush, worked in combat by the way and iraq. dealt with really sick people. we have adage in medicine, if you can take care of really sick and dying people you can take care of healthy people. he was very detailed on this exam. showed he had a cardiac stress test done. he had echo done. heart is in great shape. his blood pressure is low. cognitive testing wasn't even necessary. here is the key reason. because he spends every day speaking to him. he has been observing him for a year. that particular idea of so much time spent, doctor to patient is a cognitive test. it's a behavioral test. he kept saying entire time he has been with him he has never seen a problem. on top of that he did very extensive cognitive test. of course you saw doctor from
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another network battling him over that. melissa: battling. >> battling. when there is no fact of sign of dementia. bringing up his father who lived to the age of 93. not even genetic basis to be concerned about that i thought all questions were answered. on the negative side, it is interesting that he is on crestor for his cholesterol. needs to increase it. eat more plants in his diet. needs mediterranean diet. melissa: i know it is true, but -- >> i'm going to go out have an eggplant, i'm telling you. melissa: james we were laughing so hard, people who basically, i mean, let's be honest would not be terribly distressed if he keeled over tomorrow asking if he should eat more chicken and fish. it was really special. >> fill disclosure i'm not on regular exercise program either. but i think the, it was remarkably thorough what you saw. melissa: one way of saying it, yeah. >> the white house doctor,
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obviously credits good against against -- good genes, which president is talking about. he is deemed someone with fantastic genes. i think we'll hear more about that. melissa: brad, it did feel like the white house press corps was trolled. because they got out there and they asked every embarrassing -- does he wear dentures? i don't know how that could possibly be important if our leader, our president, the leader of the free world, if he wears dentures or not. they sounded ridiculous. at the end, the doctor even revealed that he was told that sarah will not drag him off. he will answer every question out there. >> look, to me that was the most revealing comment in the entire press conference. the white house press corps was used today to distract attention from all of these other, other issues that sarah sanders and president would rather not have to deal with. they would rather not deal with the homeland hearing security today where homeland security was beat up over what occurred
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in that room last week, relative to the president's vulgarity. melissa: they fell for it. >> they did fall for it. melissa: they did fall for it. joe, now they're going to say that you know, naval doctor, you know was holding things back, was dishonest. they even asked him, what are you holding back? what are you not telling us? does he take ambien? is four or five hours sleep a night too little and does he watch too much television? >> i think we all wish we had a dr. jackson treating us being that thorough explaining so much. what you really saw was a press corps desperate to find facts in support of conclusions they have already been telling us for the past 12 months, that the president was of course mentally unfit and healthy. who can forget the groundbreaking reporting we saw on other networks. there was salacious scandal of two scoops of ice cream. incredibly disingenuous story about how donald trump drinks 12
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diet cokes a day. this is what the media has been pedaling. since this book, fire and -- "fire and fury", they had had the great doctor come out and submit that is the not the case. hopefully it stops the claims and the media from being disinagain just. melissa: dr. siegel. >> that told him i was given a sudafed the day before. diagnosis. breaking news t was dry mouth. melissa: my goodness. it was certainly entertaining for all of us, the press really got trolled big time there in the white house. thanks to all of you. david: we have a lot more news on immigration and markets. we'll be right back. stay with us.
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crossed 26,000 for the first time we were up nearly 300 points of the high so what happened and how are the traders responding nicole petallides is on the floor of the new york stock exchange, nicole? nicole: well an exciting morning right out of the gate at 9:30 dow 26,000 and out come the hats right? wow well i font even know if it's cost efficiency to even print these things maybe they should go straight to dow almost 30,000. ultimately as you noted at our high point of the day we were 0 points but there was chatter and a few things number one you had certain sectors which became weaker, materials, energy, industrials came under pressure and there was also straightout profittaking. people have levels they want to sell and we've seen now eight miles since president trump 2016 was elected and they have levels they say just sell it let me take profits and that indeed was at least part of what was happening today back to you. melissa: nicole thank you. david: on a day when immigration is at the top of the news republicans and a democrat
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introducing an initiative for immigration reform and they think they can get to president trump's desk one of those republicans is here let's bring in jeff denimhad from california congressman only a couple minutes because that press conference what is the deal, quickly? >> well we've got a bipartisan agreement over 40 members both republican and democrat coming together on the usa act which will secure our border both with physical and technology barriers , address our backlog in our courts and most importantly, give a permanent fix to the daca recipients making sure that we get this on the table and fixed. david: so you have the daca fix, you've got a secure border what about a merit-based immigration system the president wants that as well. >> there's certainly opportunities to do amendments in both this bill as well as in the appropriations process but we have a bill here that we believe we can get 218 votes and one that addresses the border security and backlog as well as the permanent fix for dreamers. david: we just heard from sarah
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huckabee sanders and eshe says also it should have something on chain migration getting rid of chain migration, anything on that? >> well this does not address chain migration but under current law, if the dreamer wanted to sponsor a family member the family member has to go back to its prior country for 10 years as well as the dreamer would have to go through the process of 10 plus years to gain their citizenship. david: finally congressman what do you think is more likely that we will have immigration deal on the president's desk or that we'll have a government shutdown at the end of the week? >> i think we'll get this done. this came together over the weekend. obviously there have been a number of bills the dream act in particular came together as part of the usa act, this is really pulling both parties together i think we can get it done by the end of the week. david: congressman jeff denham, thank you very much for coming in sorry we had to shorten it so much but we had to hear about the president's health i'm sure you understand.
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>> absolutely. david: thank you very much for coming in. i appreciate it. melissa: you got it all in. david: we did. melissa: what an hour the white house. david: do you think they will ever live that down? wait until you hear saturday night drive. melissa: here is risk & rewards. >> it has been quite a day the dow judging almost 300 points and bursting through the 26,000 barrier, right at the open of trading today. just before losing all of its gains and closing the day in the red, so what's going on there we'll have our experts weigh in tonight, just while the pressure is still on for an immigration deal with the government shutdown looming the homeland security secretary, kristin nielsen getting grilled today on capitol hill about whether the president was vulgar last week. we have the sound there, plus this hour, we are monitoring a senate vote on fisa the act that allows nsa surveillance we'll bring it to you when it goes down and the white house
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