and remember -- you can't take it with you. [ gunshot ] [ thud ] otototototototototototo. here is lou. [♪] david: good evening, i'm david asman in for lou dobbs. shocking new text messages between fbi officials raising questions about former president obama's potential involvement in the hillary clinton investigation. lisa page texting her lover peter strzok saying potus wants to know everything we are doing. but at the time, president obama insisted he never got involved in fbi investigations. >> i guarantee there is no political influence in any

investigation conducted by the justice department or the fbi. not just in this case, but in any case. full stop, period. full stop, nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the justice department because nobody is above the law. david: president trump reacting to the revelations tweeting quote, new fbi texts are bombshells. we'll discuss the corruption. the president deciding whether to release the democratic rebuttal to the memo released by the intel committee. and senate leaders announce a two-year budget deal that would avert a government shutdown. but the proposal calling for

$300 billion in new spending. house conservatives are slamming it as fiscally irresponsible. we take it all up here tonight. our top story, new texts calling into question president trump's involvement in the fbi investigation. they raise serious concerns about how involved president obama was in the clinton investigation. associates of peter strzok and lisa page claim the texts were about obama wanting information on russian meddling. >> those texts totally candid, unvarnished, just raise an awful lot of questions. reporter: republican senator ron johnson's committee released another report that brings the

attention to obama. then fbi agent peter strzok texted lisa page using bureau shorthand. talk points for director comey? , yes, potus wants to know everybody we are doing. in an interview on "fox news sunday," president page sift he was not in the loop. >> i do not talk to the attorney general about pending investigation. i do not talk to fbi directors about pending investigation. we have a strict line and always have maintained it. catherine: the early drafts said emails between obama and clinton probably had been compromised.

strzok writes, hope so, just left bill priestap. in mid-november page writes, i read "all the president's men" thinking i need to bush up on watergate. senate investigators question whether there is a connection to this august text where they discuss an insurance policy. the white house press secretary says the reservations remain. >> it further shows there are reasons for us to have great concerns in this process. catherine: clinton aide huma abedin was shown a text exchange. and continue said it had be

classified, then asked for her own copy. david: peter strzok's role in clearing clinton and attempts to damage trump cannot be underestimated. he was the fbi chief of counter espionage. he led the bureau's criminal investigation into the hillary clinton email scandal taking part in her july 2016 interview. and it was strzok who changed fbi director comey's conclusion from grossly negligent to extremely careless. whether the trump campaign played any role, strzok then joined special counsel robert mueller's team as a key investigator. strzok finally was demoted after

his anti-trump texts were revealed, banished to a human resources position. joining us, gregg jarrett. i not it was important to put together how important strzok is. he's not a small cog in a big wheel. to juxtapose the president's statement about never interfering in any way, shape or form, positive, end of sentence, then seeing that memo between strzok and page is disconcerting. gregg: first of all, president obama is wrong when he suggests there should never be a president involved in investigations at the fbi and department of justice. that is one of the great myths person pet waited over the last 40 years since water d mirths perpetuated over the last 40

years since watergate. now he has a conflict of interest if it involves him or one of the people directly under him. president trump doesn't seem to understand the law. david: these two people strzok and page, we know clearly hundreds of thousands of texts that were anti-trump, out to prevent donald trump from ever becoming president, if he becomes president, they had some kind of insurance policy to prevent him from staying president. in that context, for president obama to be dealing with these two people one suspects there was something being done that was untoward gregg: the latest text appears to belie the president's claim. peter strzok and lisa page are the last two people at the fbi

who should be anywhere near an investigation connected to politics. but you would think peter strzok was the on guy who works at the fbi. he's the guy who launched, he signed the papers investigating trump-russian collusion. these newest emails underscore the hatred this man has for the guy he is investigating. and if you look at the laws that dictate when the fbi opens an investigation. he violated those laws. there has to be some sort of a crime, they had none. you have to have articulatable facts, they had none.

david: chris steele, the man behind the trump dossier. it was one of the main sources of information that led to the fisa warrant and the ability to spy. and it talked in great detail about the state department's involvement in some of this. and how sid blumenthal who worked with the clinton war machine was one of the sources for chris steele. gregg: this is so ugly inner way. this latest document by grassley and graham shows the department justice actively concealed vital information from the fisa court and deliberately deceived the judge. they knew the dossier was a phoney document politically motivated.

they knew steele was untrustworthy and he had lied. none of this was conveyed to the judge. nunes sent a letter to the presiding judge of the fisa court asking for all of the transcripts of the fisa warrant applications and hearings. that's four different hearings, to find out exactly what was misrepresented in court. david: mr. nunes is also gramming with the notion of going to the chief justice of the supreme court because the supreme court is involved in deciding who those fisa judges are. some question about whether this would violate rules of conduct between various branches of the government. should there be some reexamination of the process by which we get these fisa judges? >> they rotate every 30 days, so

with four applications on 90-day intervals, you probably had four different judges. so a lot of different felonies committed here. but this needs to be reviewed. this case underscores the flaws in the system. dawf * we are coming right back with much more. please stay with us. shocking new text messages between anti-trump fbi officials revealing possible involvement from president obama in the trump-clinton probe. >> this idea the president of the united states was asking what the heck is going on. real cause for concern and why we need a thorough investigation. and why we need a second special counsel to look into this entire affair. david: we'll take up the latest fbi bombshell with ed rollins. a top clinton ally accused of

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>> the white house still reviewing the democratic memo on pfizer surveillance. there is a mountain of granular detail that has to be evaluated before can be approved for public consumption. adam schiff accused by some by intentionally adding information regarding sources and methods that would force the white house to make significant changes for joining me now is former congressman jason shea fits of fox news contributor. it's called the trump trap. he of all people, adam schiff knows and he knew that some of that stuff that may have to be redacted would be so if you put it in. he put it in anyway because we can claim if it's redacted there is a cover-up. >> i think trey laid out the best, you can't reveal sources

and methods in the memo that came out from the republicans was clean and void of that type of thing. the democrats are probably savvy enough to put something in there that they no caps agrereleased and they can throw their hands in the air and safety, they are hiding something. that is not necessarily the case. >> what you think is in the democratic memo. >> i don't know but i don't think it will be able to refute the greatest degree what the republicans laid out. adam schiff just has no credibility. remember, before looking memo came out, he said it had sources and methods that would dismantle law enforcement and the fbi. then it comes out and the democrats switchgear and say it's nothing. there's nothing in there. you can't have it both ways. >> i think we got a little taste of it from jerry from new york, a liberal democrat who came out with a memo of his own a couple days ago. essentially, backing up the trump dossier, going back and

suggesting the republican memo did nothing to discredit the trump dossier, as if that's what you have to do in order to prove your point. when in fact, now we are getting all kinds of information to discredit it. they are sticking with that, it looks like it's a pretty thin read that they have here. >> can you imagine the tables were turned, if trump had done this to clinton, the world would be ending and every news outlet would be covering it. i still believe the most definitive word on this, compared to the dueling memos is going to be the inspector general. michael, 450 employees have been working at it for about a year, within the 60 day window and when he goes to testify, i believe go to the oversight committee. when i was a chair he said he come to us first and i think he will still. [inaudible]

that will be the most definitive. >> it sort of related to all this. it's related to the hatred, the. hatred that people, some of the people in the fbi have for president trump. adam schiff was apparently., to use a phrase by a bunch of folks who were russians, who claim to have information that included photographs of donald trump naked, et cetera. i believe we have a portion of that tape. can we play that tape? >> compromising images on trump after their short relation. >> what is the nature. >> there were pictures of naked trump. >> okay. >> and so vladimir putin was made aware of the availability of the compromise material. >> yes of course. >> thank you very much. we will be back in touch through our staff to make arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and the fbi. appreciate you working reaching out to us.

>> would only play a portion. it went on for seven minutes. would you have spent time, seven minutes of your time with such a flimsy excuse for information that these two russian youngsters had. >> evidently got right to the seniormost member on the committee. what is most striking is the duplicity from adam schiff. on the one side he is critical of donald trump junior for hearing summary out for a brief 20 minute meeting and saying the world is going to end and that means there's all this russian collusion even though he released all the transcripts, 23 hours of grilling but adam schiff, meanwhile is doing this himself it shows how hungry these people are for anything salacious and why so many

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still be no. i think it's fiscally irresponsible. >> we are joined now by a member of the house freedom caucus, scott. pennsylvania who sits on the foreign affairs homeland scary and transportation and the structure committees. he is a proud veteran of several conflicts. it's good to have you here. have a son in the military. i'm very happy that the military is getting more money, but at the expense of paying for all kinds of things that the democrats are clearly going to waste money on, they are going to increase their potential for that spending up to $1.1 trillion. are you concerned about the economic consequences. >> absolutely we are concerned. that's why we are against it. we been for militaries bending since september. we told our leadership this plan was not going to work and this is where we going to end

up so we wanted to fund the military to the end of the year since this whole thing began yet here we are, we are going to do another one next month and that's a whole other story. just wait till that want to feel that turns out. we want to fund the military, but you can ask the american people to find another 13% increase in washington spending. that is not draining the swamp that is bankrupting the country. the minority party in the senate, about a week and half ago held the country hostage for illegal immigrants and now they're holding our military hostage to bankrupt the country. there is no reason to do this. >> do think the message is getting across? i think it did the last time, the schumer shutdown, but i'm wondering if the same masses,

if so many voted for the bill, if that message is getting out there. >> i don't think it's going to get out there. unfortunately, the untold story, you must ask yourself, why are we going to do a continuing resolution until the 23rd period you spend all this money, bankrupt the country, fund the military till the end of the year end another domestic until the 23rd of march. they think they will try to throw the in immigration think on it. >> you're also on homeland security committee as you should be, you are general in the reserves, let's talk about the pfizer court. it is absolutely clear that allowed themselves to be used by political operatives, not to investigate as well they should have or investigate the information on these applications. where do we go from here? do we have to completely revamp the pfizer process? >> you think we do. unfortunately we just reauthorized it days before the memo. >> it's ironic timing. >> exactly, and suspect as

well. that being said, it absolutely needs be revised. we are waiting on the ig report as well as all this other stuff coming out which will prove that we need a special counsel or federal grand jury. there needs to be a con ability and further investigation and prosecution. >> have you seen anything in what has been presented so far that would lead you to believe that someone needs to be sent to jail. >> i think america has seen quite a bit that would lead them to believe that but we need to follow due process. let's get the facts. in my opinion, yes there are people who need to be held accountable. we don't know how far the rat hole goes. >> is a due process. it's almost humorous to use that phrase in light of the so-called due process that was supposed to have taken place in the pfizer courts.

have they suffered a blow that they will not recover from? has this become so sorted and the more we found out about it, whether a lot of people say this is an excuse to just get rid of it. >> i don't think we should get rid of the pfizer courts but i think they need to be readjusted and understand that you don't get to go in as a defendant, it's just one side of the story and that leaves the integrity of the individuals involved. you have to have strict and strong oversight measures to control it. we can keep it but it needs to be revamped in the fbi and the department of justice that are bad actors need to be cleaned out so american had faith in those institutions. the longer you wait, the worse it gets. >> is good have you. thank you. >> be sure to vote in tonight's pole. do believe leaving peter strock and lisa page in their

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>> devon nunez told radio host hugh hewitt he is considering calling supreme court chief justice john roberts to testify before congress about pfizer abuses. take a listen. >> the chief justice appoints the pfizer judges. have you had a chance to chat with him or any of the pfizer judges about what went on at the pfizer court with regard to the page application. >> this is something we grappled with through this investigation. our next step over the courts is to make them aware that

they, if they're not aware already that this happened by watching the news so we will be sending a letter to the court. if somehow this case ends up at the supreme court, somehow, someway, by sending a letter to roberts, do you conflict the court. >> joining me now is chief political correspondent byron york. kind of an interesting suggestion on the part of nunez, and it does get complex because you have this very important separation of branches of government for the congress to be demanding something of the justices might be difficult. >> it is. there is separation of powers issues, there's the existence of the house judiciary committee which might be a more appropriate place to do this and as a bigger thing, it's kind of a side issue for a committee that wants to continue looking into the behavior of the intelligence agencies and the fbi and the

whole trump russia affair. >> but for the pfizer courts to have suffered this humiliation, and must have an effect. no judge wants to be responsible for a case that is dealing with tainted evidence, right. >> one thing we really don't know in this case is what the pfizer judges, i believe there were 444 separate applications. >> they rotate all-time. >> what they think about what they were presented. two they believe they have been deceived and the fbi was dishonest? you would expect they would be angry. i think we can all say from our own experience trying to report things that it's kind of a black hole of information. >> let's talk about another legal avenue we've been covering which is that criminal referral put together by lindsey graham and senator grassley which specifically talk about the state department and its involvement

in the trump dossier which was used by the pfizer court as evidence for the right to spy on american citizen. what about this. the state permit getting involved, hillary clinton was at the state department when she was a good have state, her people, i assume, played a role in some of this. >> one of the interesting themes is that we've been finding out that knowledge of it spread further inside the obama administration and we originally knew. further in the fbi, further in the justice department. two or three weeks ago i wrote a piece saying it appears there is something going on inside the state department and there was purchased a couple days ago victoria newland who is a top state department official said she knew about the dossier in july of 2016 which is actually pretty early. so now we've heard kind of an amazing chain of information in which there some foreign

source who gives information to cody who is a clinton associate who then gives it to sidney blumenthal who is a legendary defender of clinton's past two then gives it to the state department who gives it to steal because it's the fbi. there are a lot of people involved in the obama administration with this dossier. >> and it is the essence of what the clinton war machine was. of course you have the members of the old bill clinton team but it just shows, i'm wondering, to what extent are we going to find out that perhaps what this was was a diversion, hillary clinton campaign diversion to take attention away from hillary clinton and bill clinton's connections with russia. >> i don't know.

i don't know about that, but obviously democrats felt that donald trump was a target rich environment and they had this guy saying he had the spectacular intelligence which was salacious and unverified, and i think they were all just hoping. as a matter of fact, as september comes in october comes, they clearly become more frantic to get the information and the dossier out, some of the people in the press are not actually cooperating because they look for some proof and couldn't find it but they were very anxious to get that information out before the election. >> and after the election, there was a lot of spreading of the dossier after the election, and clearly that's when fbi director call me who was still in charge was involved with all the somehow so we'll have to see. there are a lot more legs to the story. >> absolutely. >> byron york, good to see

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ploy to distract from the growing scandal over corruption at the d.o.j. and fbi. 98% said yes. joining me now is editor-in-chief vista for bedford and defense attorney rebecca rose woodland. good to see you. christopher, what have you heard, what's the latest from the beltway about the democratic memo. will it get released, if so how much redaction will there be, et cetera. >> the memo we know they put together as a last minute thing. republicans have been working on their memo for quite some time. everyone had a chance to read it. when the democrats found out the republicans were going to vote to release it that's when they went into overdrive to try to get theirs together and say we want there's two. republicans is very different from the way the republicans treated the democratic memo. the white house doesn't have to do anything to release this memo. they just have to sit there for five days now that it's been released by the committee and then it comes out. i expect it's going to be

pushed come out and it will be pushed unless there's something in there that so beyond the pale that the intelligence committee convinced the white house that it needs to stay hidden. >> rebecca, one thing that nobody knows exactly, but one thing i can be sure of is that the media will play it up for all it's worth. they will have the biggest pr department in the world which is 90% of the mainstream media, no matter how the contradictions are in it, no matter how lacking it is in any significant regulations, et cetera. >> that's true, the media will do that but the bottom line is we have serious situation that the republicans and nunez are saying released the memo, please release it because we released hours and hours we are supporting with very clear facts and the facts have come been continuously supported. we have a surveillance of someone in america under a court that has no proper person to defend this man. this is a very, very serious

issue so let's get the memo. let's see it. >> christopher, now the republican memo is getting verification from the criminal deferral of christopher steele by senators graham and grassley. it is getting support by some very serious senators who have some new information to bear on this okay. >> i remember when it was a few weeks earlier and the senator suggested that a crime had been committed and it was committed by an englishman. it was committed by steel. them in the memo came out it was like here's the crime. he lied to the fbi. at least that's what the accusation is from the fbi. the democrats, to your point appear to be in lockstep with their talking points after the gop memo came out. republicans are being pretty fair saying the democrats should have their say in the republicans should have their say and let's bring this to light. the democrats are saying we released our memo now, the republican memo is a threat to the public credit was completely insane and over and over these really important issues have been brought to light and seem to line up with

facts we knew and seem to be checking out and being verified. >> rebecca, what is a threat to our republic is the demise of the rule of law regarding spying on americans. we are now seeing all kinds of revelations about the political process by which a spy warrant was obtained and everything that was involved in the process which included all kinds of misrepresentations about who was providing the information, it wasn't coming from mr. steele, was coming from his sources, they were not verified by the fbi as they should have been, i mean this is outrageous and i'm wondering if washington cares about that outrage. >> you think everyone should care because look, the basis of our democracy is that everyone has the right and has constitutional rights that we have outlined. we have a fourth amendment that requires proper searches

but we have a fisa court that allows that's really be stepped aside so there's a thought that you could be a spy within domestic, the borders of this country, then the fisa court can make decisions not with anyone present other than the fbi, and that is scary. >> doesn't frighten anybody inside the beltway that may be in the democratic party these abuses have taken place. >> very few people. the democrats have really maintained a lot of message discipline but reporters with our outlets and other outlets have been talking to high-ranking democratic sources and they've actually been helpful on the stories. i asked, why are they talking too. i base was be against it but it turns out some of these people are legitimately worried about the intelligence is being spread, the unmasking of attacks beyond a partisan level. if you walk down the sidewalk or go to a nice dinner party in georgetown, you won't hear a single break in the lockstep

message they are putting out. >> the chances of me being at a dinner party in georgetown is a real high. good to see you both. thank you. that's it for us. thank you for joining us. john bolton isotototototh ways. here is lou. [♪] david: good evening, i'm david asman in for lou dobbs. shocking new text messages between fbi officials raising questions about former president obama's potential involvement in the hillary clinton investigation. lisa page texting her lover peter strzok saying potus wants to know everything we are doing. but at the time, president obama insisted he never got involved in fbi investigations. >> i guarantee there is no political