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goes away quietly. that passing out in the street. the coughing for 2. >> minutes non- -- coughing for 20 minutes. lou: she won the popular vote, for crying out loud. >> that's why we have the electoral college. you know, this is the problem. that's why the democrats won't be able to win. they haven't been able to learn from their mistakes. they focus on identity politics when the american people want them to focus on border security, their paycheck and making the economy better. instead they want to play the same old game. this is why they can't win. lou: we'll have results for you as soon as we get them in. we'll keep you up to date on the
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scoreboard if those votes are up. the border wall, the president in california, sanctuary state. he's having to explain to california why at the state of the union they have to follow u.s. law. >> i never thought we would live to see a border wall become a reality. i think we are getting closer and closer to that. we need a lawful legal bored. he's right, without a border, you don't have a country. >> it's not just a border wall, it's a border wall system. he changed his language. he knows it takes a lot to get this done. we need technology. a system. lou: border wall drones and sensors. what we need is a border wall.
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>> but this is a guy who has built 100-story skyscrapers in his sleep. >> in some areas it would be a waste of money. this president is bend on this issue but still getting what he wants. >> you put some solar panels on top, then you get your money's worth in some places. lou: he's putting tariffs on the european union. he sent his u.s. trade representative, he has commerce secretary wilbur ross on it. this is a president who means what he says. he's going to be putting tariffs on steel dumped in this country. 25% on steel, 10% on aluminum and the squealing has started worldwide. >> this is where i start to disagree with the president. the president did a great job
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with tax reform. he killed it, he crushed it. i don't think the president is serious about these tariffs. i think he's using it as a scare tactic. he's a reasonable man. lou: a reasonable man would do exactly what he did. we haven't had a trade surplus since 1975. more than $12 trillion have been squandered through trade deficits. and he knows we'll be a debtor nation in perpetuity unless we get this straightened out. we are done being the dumping ground. mark, you get last word here. >> democrats will tax everything that moves. you want to tax a chinese steel company? all of a sudden they get bent
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out of shape. that they can't handle. lou: we are a par country. >> just hope we don't get into a trade war. lou: you are in a trade war. you and a lot of other americans don't realize it. when they are dumping steel at below cost and aluminum. let me finish brother john. let me finish. we have to talk some more economics and negotiating. did you ever read "art of the deal"? me, too. polls now closed in the fight for pennsylvania's 18th conscious at district. rick saccone is pitted against
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conor lamb. it's a district trump won by 20 points in 2016. good evening, molly. >> this district stretches from the liberal suburbs of pittsburgh all the way to the west virginia line. this was once a reliably red district. but the democrats have made this quite a fight. as the polls begin to close we'll get a look at the numbers. will they choose rick saccone, an air force veteran? or will they choose conor lamb, a marine corps veteran. they are at the polls today to vote for themselves. >> there is a lot of democratic enthusiasm. people are voting for me or rick
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saccone. >> thank you for your support. we all love you in western pennsylvania. mollie: the president has visited twice. the trump voters poured out so dramatically in 2016. lamb is pro gun. here is a test of what some of the voters told us today. >> conor lamb is a young guy. he's a veteran. he's somebody that i think will fight for our country. i'm not sure the other guy would. >> i voted for saccone because he's got some experience. lamb is cute. he's a democrat. he's from the city. typical democrat. i'm sorry to say that.
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but he's too young. reporter: lamb is a little more than half the age of rick saccone. the steel tariffs, coal country. unions poured out on the side of lamb. this will be an interesting test of the power of organized labor and the president's influence. a lot of people will be eyeing this. we'll look forward to the mid-term. lou: it will be interesting to see how the union vote goes. the union membership says they are going for president trump. and we are having a test of that in this race between saccone and lamb. molly will be covering it for us
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throughout the evening. joining me once again, former political director for the reagan white house. ed rollins. ed: this is a close race. it should not be. this is a district president trump won by 20 points. there is about an 11-12-point advantage. murphy quit counsel after a scandal and won without any opposition last time. our candidate was not as charismatic and didn't grab ahold of trump as enthusiastically. he didn't move to trump quick enough and didn't talk about trump. if he does win this time, which i hope he does, it will be because of trump's effort in the last weekend. lou: a lot of people are questioning the president because he put his standing, his status on the line for saccone
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when the outcome is according to the polling at least uncertain. ed: they make too much out of special elections. every member has too run hard and know an off-year election is a big dropoff for a montana election race. if he wins, i hope the republicans take note and understand they have to work hard. they are not going to win this just because trump point. they have to hang on to his coat tails, not let his oath tails carry them across. they need to talk about the issues he made front and center. i think that's what successful ones will do. lou: the polls just closed under 10 minutes ago. i want to return to the issues. the mid-terms. the trump agenda.
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the president talking about phase two of the tax reform, tax cuts. the president needs all the help he can get to get those seats, to hold those seats in the house of representatives. speaker ryan isn't helping him a bit. mitch mcconnell did help him by saying there will be no reversal of tariffs as speaker ryan was trying to intimate. ryan is off the reservation. he's not a leader. he's an obstacle. ed: if he tries to lead his republicans to victory with that kind of a speesh it's not going to do well. the president owns this party. the president owns the voters in most of of these districts. our biggest problem is we have 37 members. so you have to make sure you put candidates that run really hard and run on the president's agenda because the ryan agenda is not one you will win on.
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lou: we have not heard from the ryan agenda for six months. we can thank goodness for that. he at least is not overtly competing with his agenda versus the president's. he still acts like a man who wants to run for national office if not president. it's getting preposterous and the republican party doesn't seem to be able to control it. the president seems to be able to tolerate him like he does so many people. ed: the freedom caucus with mark meadows and others have been effective in carrying the president's plan. the tax plan is the biggest issue we have here. the president himself repealing the obama executive orders has gotten this economy moving forward again. the tax tax tax benefits to the american voters. lou: you mention mark meadows, the chairman of the freedom
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caucus, one of the leading conservatives on capitol hill. he and matt gaetz and other conservatives are extremely critical of trey gowdy. bob goodlatte and the house oversight committee for not doing more to investigation corruption that the fbi and department of justice. ed: i can't figure trey gowdy out. goodlatte is also retiring. we now have this attorney general by the throat. 100 members of congress, republican members and the speaker want another special counsel. you will you have to do is name a special counsel and get on with it or her on it. the evidence is all there, we talked about it for a year now that clearly was a lot of stuff going front clinton administration. lou: gregg jarrett talking about the disappointment that he
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referred to the attorney general as the most of feckless in history. i think gregg is absolutely right. something has to be done. there is something that needs to be done with that corrupt agency and the department of justice. ed: under eric holder and his success year the wasn't any better. there is always a temptation to get captured by the natives. and sessions has been captive of the bureaucrats over there. lou: up next, president trump calls out california for shock hypocrisy. president trump: if you didn't have walls over here, you wouldn't have a country. the state of california is begging us to build walls in certain areas. they don't tell you that. lou: we'll have a report from california, from the border, and
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that will be built in san diego. william lajeunesse has the latest for us on the prototypes and the president. reporter: i heard the war with california which the president considers out of control has just begun. don't expect that just was of criticism the president will back off his hard-line immigration policy. let's start with the border wall which the president says is necessary to break the flow of illegal immigration. he inspected the eight prototypes. the president says agents prefer that see-through fence with the concrete panel on top and the anti-scaling feature on top. while they are caller, they are not dissimilar to some of the fences that currently exist
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along the bored that 89 democrats voted for in 2006 with the secure fence act. now they oppose it. trump says his wall makes a mockery of the existing fence that he says is full of holes and 12 feet high. >> these are like professional mountain climbers. they can't climb some of these walls. some of them they can. those are the walls we are not using. reporter: he had a rally at the old top gun school at miramar. he says california is putting the nation at risk with its sanctuary policies. he said governor brown is doing a terrible job making california a gang's best friend.
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president trump: we are asking congress to insure that no federal funds subsidize this dangerous and unlawful behavior. we want to protect you and we want to protect all of our families. we want to protect our nation. reporter: the president is in los angeles at a fundraiser. the bottom line is he doesn't want congress to fund sanctuary cities. we are not talking just grant money. but a lot more money than that. he's saying i need $3 billion to build 60 miles of border wall this year and 64 miles next year. that's the challenge in congress. lou: 64 miles, how much this year? reporter: 60 miles this year and 64 next year with a style border wall he's approving today.
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he said it doesn't need to be quite that high. lou: at 60 miles a year it will take 30 years to get very far. that's sort of a disappointing progress report, william. reporter: you have been to the border many times. he doesn't need it from brownsville to san diego. lou: i want shining sea to shining sea. reporter: i don't know if you will see that in your lifetime, pal. but there are a lot of areas where i know agents need physical structure. he'll start with texas first. lou: there is nothing wrong with shining sea to shining sea. i always got a kick out of people who said we don't need it. you and i have been on the
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border a lot. there are places where the fence, the wall is nothing more than two strand of warbed wire, one of the strand buried in desert sand. it's pretty pathetic. we have to do better than we have been doing. william lajeunesse, great to have you on the broadcast and thanks for keeping us informed. we appreciate it. reporter: okay, lou. lou: rex tillerson's firing coming just weeks before president trump's meeting with kim jong-un. we take up what's next with fred fleitz *.
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lou: the meeting between kim jong-un and president trump reportedly played a part in the decision to nominate mike pompeo as secretary of state. president trump: hopefully something positive will come out of it. we are prepared for anything. great for korea, north and south, and great for the world, and great for this country.
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lou: joining us tonight, former characteristics a analyst fred fleitz,al author of the brand-new book, the coming north korea nuclear nightmare. let's turn first to the president's optimism about those talks. and also the obvious balance that he holds with admitting there is no way to tell what's going to happen. >> well, lou, the president changed the game concerning north korea by throwing out the diplomatic rule book and putting forward a much more aggressive policy than foreign policy experts thought was appropriate. several months ago they said he was going to lead us to war. now they are saying he's being too diplomatic. we don't know if these offers by kim jong-un are legitimate. but we have to pursue it. i think the president has made
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the north koreans change their tactics. lou: i find it interesting that establishment national left-wing media will say anything so long as it's negative about the president, his policies and his direction. so we almost have to begin with the view that what they say is immaterial to the prospect of a new reality. this president is pursuing that new reality and already has achieved more than many people thought possible by throwing out the rule book as you say, a rule book that led three successive presidents to commit folly after folly with north korea. >> that's right. where were these commentators when barack obama was pushing strategic patience? you know who the major people are, they came on television shows and they never talked about it.
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lou: it's embarrassing to look at the level of political commentary and the depth of policy understanding or lack of depth of policy understanding. this president has said, you know, to tell with you all. he's going to do what he judges with his intellect with his values to be the correct thing with this great country. so fare has been right on point on each issue. >> that's why i like mike pompeo going to state. the president will need a secretary of state that believes in his policies and is crucial to the secretary of state's job, filling the state department and the mid-level positions that are crucial for implementing risky policy initiatives. rex tillerson lost an entire year spending millions of dollars on a reorganization plan
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that will never be implemented. that's why he kept the jobs vacant. lou: some of the geopolitical challenges the united states faces, the president was criticized for being too close to president xi jinping. that now appears to be paying off. behind the scenes xi had to be playing some role or he would not be moving forward, in my judgment. >> i think the trade pressure we put on china has made a difference. also the chinese leader does not seem to appear being publicly criticized by the president of the united states. he does not like being called out with data that china is cheating on a major way. i think china is still cheating. but their compliance with these sanctions has increased significantly because of president trump calling them out. lou: also the theft of
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intellectual property, the chinese policies ripping off the united states and they have done so for decades now. the president is making it clear, he'll not tolerate this, whether it's the european union or whether it is china. >> unfair trade deals, cyber warfare, stealing of intellectual property. u.s. presidents have not stood up to the chinese on this and mr. trump is, and i think the chinese get the message. lou: and we get the message from fred fleitz and we always enjoy doing so. up next. president trump firing rex tillerson over policy differences and a bad attitude on the part of secretary tillerson. president trump: we disagreed on things. when you look at the iran deal. i think it's terrible. he thought it was okay.
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with mike pompeo we have a similar thought process. i think it's going to go very well. lou: we are getting the first results from the special election in pennsylvania. we'll have those for you after these messages. we'll be right back. great, another dead end. sarge, i just got a tip that'll crack this case wide open! turns out the prints at the crime scene- awwwww...did mcgruffy wuffy get a tippy wippy? i'm serious! we gotta move fast before- who's a good boy? is him a good boy? erg...i'm just gonna go. oh, you wanna go outside? you gotta go tinky poo-poo? i already went, ok? in the bathroom! as long as people talk baby-talk to dogs, you can count on geico saving folks money. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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tight special election race. this race is very tight because there are very few votes in right now. democrat conor lamb is leading with fewer than 1% reporting. conor lamb with 52%. can we go back to that? 52% conor lamb. 744 total votes. rick $cone with 47.3 and 677 votes. we anticipate these will be swinging quite wildly. democrats controlling 193 seats to the republicans 238. there are four vacant seat and that's what's involved. how many of those seats the republicans can hold and how much the democrats can take. president trump is getting close to naming a new economic advisor. the frontrunner to replace gary
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cohn is said to be larry kudlow. president trump: i'm look at larry kudlow. i have known him a long time. we don't agree on egg. but i want to have a divergent opinion. he has come around to believing tariffs as a negotiating point. lew joining me now charlie hurt the president says that he likes a fella who is a free trader, supply side economist and commentator and terrific commentator. he also is absolutely opposed to tariffs. doesn't want the united states to reverse 50 years of trade policy. charlie: it proves donald trump only surround himself by yes men
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who tell him what he wants to hear. this whole toda whole idea thatd trump on surrounds himself by yes men is preposterous. they point to all the people he surround himself with who aren't yes men. rex tillerson has grave disagreements on issues. he had disagreements with gary cohn. gary cohn or jim mattis in the defense department. he has disagreements with them and listens to all of them. rec tillerson is a guy who lasted over a year in that spot even though he disagreed with him. given the fact we are getting ready to ramp up these talks
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with north korea it became kind of untenable at this point. lou: i'm one of those people, i don't think it will come as a surprise to you. i can't believe he kept rex tillerson around. tillerson couldn't be more disrespectful. the same thing could be said of general mattis. going against the president and publicly doing so. i'm sitting there thinking fire this fine person serving. it's pure propaganda from the left and the gop establishment. he seems to be drawn to argument, to challenge, and to work out dynamic tensions between opposing views. and he's got the comfort, if you
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will, of his intellect and his record. >> honestly, when i look around at the really truly intelligent people that i have ever been around who are good at affecting big changes to things, they are all very confident people who are comfortable in their own skin. and they thrive on that sort of disagreement. and i think that what we are seeing right now -- and you look at the most of ardent anti-trumpers and they are so upset about the way all of this went down with rex tillerson. lou: the little daffodils are beside themselves. charlie: when you say what do you think about putting pompeo in at state, they say we are fine with how it worked out. we have no problem with that.
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it does seem to me part of this argument about defending people like rex tillerson, rex tillerson didn't get elected to anything. lou: he was put in by a bunch of establishment folks who can mark their genealogy back to jim baker. charlie: donald trump is the one who got elected. he's the person whose policy pry sorts are suppose to be carried out in all of these positions. and in someone is failing to do it, he should fire them. lou: i have got a few more names. let's build a wall. charlie: i can probably guess five or six people on your list. charlie, thanks so much. great to have you here.
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up next, president trump cheering the house intelligence committees conclusion of no collusion. president trump: we are happy with the decision by the house intelligence committee saying there was absolutely no collusion respect to russia. and it was a very powerful decision. >> we are bringing in a powerful voice. we take it up with fox news analyst gregg jarrett. did i mention legal analyst? i should have. gregg will be with us liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. non-drowsy claritin 24 hour relief
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lou: we have early returns coming in from pennsylvania. just some to show you where we are -- just to show where we are in the vote count. that's where we are. 5% of the vote, the precincts reporting. 60-39. one assumes on rick saccone's part things will improve. we'll be updating you as the numbers get larger and more compelling. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein offered unfettered
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support for robert mueller's witch hunt. he so "usa today" that the special counsel is not an unguide missile. i don't believe there is any justification for terminating the special counsel. a guide missile has been aimed directly at the trump presidency and has served to subject ever it and frustrate at its best. joining us is fox news's legal analyst gregg jarrett. this unguide missile remark by rod rosenstein bothers me. it suggests trump is his target. gregg: i would not expect rosenstein to say anything else since he appointed mueller. he has a vested interest in
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mueller finding evidence of collusion which doesn't exist and is not a crime. this guy right here, rosenstein, mueller, comey, they are all thick as thieves in with each other for a very long time. they worked with each other, allies, mentor. of all the great lawyers there are in the nation, you would have thought rosenstein could have found someone other than bob mueller. and if he had an ounce of integrity he would investigate comey and investigate comey for obstruction of justice in the hillary clinton case and investigate comey for signing off not once but numerous times on to an unverified dossier which under the law must be verified. lou: a phoney dossier.
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not one, but two of them. we don't know where the department of state is in all of this. we haven't weighed in with the department of state and its relationships. with the former employer christopher steele, the man who was paid over $1 million to come up with a work of fiction. there is not a single investigation under way into the corruption of the fbi and department of justice. gregg: and there should be. if you just look at the dossier. i must have read it 100 times. i laugh every time. it never gets old. it's the work of a bad first-time author in fiction. i laugh. the fbi had to have been laughing, too. but they didn't care. they are going to it's as an excuse to investigate trump.
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lou: what is the possibility -- what are the possibilities that made that thing worth $12 million to the dnc to hillary clinton's campaign and persuade the department of justice to sell out its ethics, its regulations, and its practices. >> i looked into that. when you break count money, it's not $12 million that goes to fusion gps or christopher steele. money was paid. but you cannot pay a foreign national in a political campaign. you cannot receive money from a foreign national. it's evidence of collusion between the democrats and russia and the hillary clinton campaign and it should be investigated on that basis. lou: will we ever see that investigation? gregg: i think you will. i think at some point in time dossier and how judges were
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deceived and evidence was concealed which is six different felonies, somebody will be held accountable. lou: gregg jarrett, thank you, sir. up next, the pennsylvania special election still too early to call. we have only very slight numbers. we'll share all of the numbers as we take that up, the stakes involved and more with our panel next. we'll be right back. maria's always on the go,
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lou: the polls have been closed almost an hour in pennsylvania's special election. the numbers are still very few and far between. democrat connor lamb leading republican rick saccone, 12% of the precincts reporting. gina loudon, national spokesperson for the conference on racial equality, niger innis. gina, let's start with the very simple straightforward matter. who is the better candidate and who is likely to win in your judgment. >> i think this all started with a gop scandal. let's not forget this. by all standards a democrat
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should walk away with this and we should already know that. but that's not what's happening. i think it' interesting that this poor lamb guy spent three months trying to make the rest of the world forget what a democrat really is, and hillary went to india and quickly reminded them. lou: do you believe lamb has been successful in detrumping saccone, taking trump out of the equation? >> he tried very, very hard. but that will be difficult considering the impact the president's visit to the county and region had saturday over the weekend. not to mention his wonderful speech today i believe it was at the academy, the miramar base in san diego. i think he's reminding folks
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this guy lamb may mass today raid as a democrat in name be only. but in reality we all know when he gets to washington, d.c., when he gets to washington, d.c., he'll be under the thumb of the likes of nancy pelosi and maxine waters. and i think these great working class blue collar voters of this region want a trump ally and want to continue moving the country in the direction of making america great again, that they will vote for saccone. with the dramatic lead, if saccone can cut into lamps lead in allegheny county where the democrats are count on a heavy union turnout. if he can cut into that lead and narrow to it 2,000 or 3,000 he
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has a shot to pull this thing out. lou: as you mentioned, labor, most of of big labor quietly if not publicly acknowledged they expect their members to go to trump and the republicans because of the tax cuts. whether it's on steel and aluminum tariffs. the forgotten man and woman in this country. and the wages they are experiencing increases for the first time in 20 years. yet we are hearing very clearly that the unions are saying their membership will vote for lamb. what do you think, gina? >> i'm sure the union bosses will vote for lamb just like the union bosses always vote for democrats lock step. lou: i'm talking about the union members. >> i believe they will vote for saccone.
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i think they are no longer afraid to break ranks with their union bosses. they have seen what it created for them. they are seeing the low unemployment and seeing the work come back to them. and they are no longer completely living this lie that the democrats are one day going to pay off for them. if you look at this race, what happened is saccone had to run a gop polite race because lamb has pretended to be a republican the whole way along. if he wins tonight maybe he should switch parties because that's the way he ran. lou: niger, you get the last word. >> i think gina is spot-on. saccone has been running against a masquerade, a puff of smoke. we know he will be a reliable vote for nancy pelosi. and those voters in allegheny county where the union is trying to crank out the vote narrow
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that vote for saccone so we have a good trump ally in washington, d.c. and not a he localsy clone that operates as a republican. lou: stay with us. kennedy is next. good night. >> breaking news now on another big election night, we are live in new york city. i'm kennedy. we are waiting results in the pennsylvania special election in the 18th district right around pittsburgh and this is hugely important race seeing by many as referendum against president trump. the democrat connor lamb squaring off against rick saccone. lamb in the lead. look at that. very few votes have been counted. very blue collar, suburban and rural, a district president trump won by 20 points in 2016, in other words, this i
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