for us tonight, we thank you for joining us, congressman sean duffy, and general jack keane01. i will put hundreds staff in field. charles: here is lou. >> i am stewart varney in for lolou dobbs, a tragedy in south florida, a pedestrian bridge, still under construction collapsing in west ern miami, killing people. we'll have a full report in moments. >> also, top republican senator joining the cause for a second special counsel to investigate deputy of justice, and fbi corruption. >> and embattled former fbi deputy director mccabe making

his case for why he should not be fired days before his pension kicks in. we'll take it up here. >> our guest congressman ron desantos on effort to purge the deep state and the fbi and justice department. congresswoman martha mcsally, discussing president trump's track down on sanctuary cities. dr. sebastian gorka on new pay-to-play allegations involving former vice president biden. and best political analyst in country, ed rollins, on president trump's insistence that reports about white house staff shake up are bunch. >> search and rescue, forth in south florida we're still awaiting numbers on fatalities after a bridge collapsed. fox news correspondent phil keating in miami with our

report. reporter: there are 10 patients in a nearby hospital, they are currently treating two in safe condition. -- severe condition, you can see one of the 8 vehicles, sticking out from under the pancaked second of the massive pedestrian bridge, just put straddling the street saturday. supposed to open on the public, pedestrians only in december. miami-dade fire and police officials here, briefed reporters about 4:30. this is a catastrophe. >> we're in a full search and rescue mode, we'll give you more information as it becomes available. we have multiple victims, final number has not been determined yet. >> we had a national tragedy on

our hands with the collapse of this bridge. what was soon to become a iconic staple part between the city and university has turned out to be a national tragedy. reporter: bridge, 174 feet long, it was assembled on florida international university property on the road, saturday they hoisted it up, rotated it 90 degrees to drop it on support beams on south and north side of very busy artery here. we spoke with a man whose friend was crossing the street when this brin -- bridge collapsed. >> it hit him, he was rushed to the hospital, i don't know, i'm so worried. he was crossing at the moment the bridge was coming down. i don't know really, he was just severely injured. reporter: this was a pedestrian bridge on scale of landmark status as skyway bridge in

tampa, the same construction company involved. fyi on the left, and sweet water on the right. it was supposed to be a bridge to the future, today it is a catastrophe. >> thank you, phil keating. >> trump administration issuing sanctions against russia for meddling in 2016 u.s. presidential elections. also accusing russia of a concerned operation to hack u.s. energy grid and critical infrastructure, targeting 13 russian nationals and antis charged by mueller. >> glowing cause for second posh -- growing calls for a second special counsel.

your republicans, today sent a letter to attorney general jeff sessions saying a special counsel is needed to gather independently the facts. facts. >> senator say that author of discredited crum trump dossier mislead the fbi, it is critical to know if fbi mislead the fisa court. >> and our first guest has been leading the charge for a second special counsel since last summer, congressman ron desantos, a member of several key committee, welcome to the program. >> good evening. >> spell it out. why do we need a second special counsel? >> for a couple reason, department of justice cannot investigate itself, it has a conflict if it is called upon to investigate act of high officials from james comey to mccabe to people like bruce

ohr . the other reason, there is evidence that federal statutes may have been violated. you look at christopher steel, whether he was honest with fbi, and jim comey leaked his memos, wok of which very likely included classified information. you take this start from hillary clinton investigation, take that through conclusion, and so fall russia investigation, all the way to appointment of mueller, yes, the fisa abuses are a big part of that. but i don't think it is exclusive to that. >> the only way too get at the truth, correct? but the problem with it is it stretches out over a long period of time, this is round the country's neck are in for a long time to come. >> issue is that sessions said he would appoint inspector general. the inspector general would work much slower than a actual special counsel, the inspector

general does not have subpoena power, he could not bring in steel, or mccabe or comey. so, you would get it done quicker, then also, yes, there have been special counsels that have run amuck. that is fault of those supervising it, there is nothing to say, you can't give a special counsel narrow grounds and say, look at this stuff, charge people if they violated the law, if not stop, we don't want it a fishing expedition, that is what the mueller thing has become. >> who makes the call? who says yes there will be a special counsel? >> attorney general of the united states jeff sessions. >> are you expecting him to say yes? >> well he is moving in that direct, i think he should have said yes, a long time ago, he announced he appointed a prosecutor from outside of the

dc within the deputy of justice -- department of justice. so i don't know if he has gone all the way but he has gone further than he was willing to go just a couple weeks ago. in that sense, i am somewhat encouraged. now he has 4 significant u.s. senators writing to him, i hope he does the right thing, get someone from outside the swamp, put them in there bet the truth, if people violate the law they need be to accountable. >> subpoena today, for the trudge administration to turnover documents. it is first known time that special counsel ordered documents directly related to president's be be turned over. what do you make? >> hard ton, we don't know what they are doing. but i think if you look at this investigation, most of all of the changes that have been

brought have nothing to to with trump campaign and collusion. it is things that happened long before campaign with manafort or process crime, like, michael flynn, and papadopoulos. to me because when rosenstein appointed mueller he did not identify a crime to investigate,ly just said investigate links, that pretty much gave mueller a mandate of just find something, i think this is part and parcel, he is trying to fine something, that is not the way that investigations are supposed to go. there should be a bases for doing it, i am not sure that the case. >> a grand fishing expedition, right, let me go back to jeff sessions, he is considering, the use of word there, whether to fire mccabe at the fbi. can you spell out for our audience what mr. mccabe has allegedly been up to. >> inspector general, investigating how hillary case

has been handled for over a year now, his conclusions is that mccabe was engaged in misconduct during the context, the course of that investigation. and his recommendation, this is a nonpartisan ig, he has recommended that mccabe be fired. so my view is that, if that is who inspector general recommends if you think that mccabe has committed misconduct, then i think that sessions needs to fire him, american public are sick of people in government who are not held accountable. you can bet your bottom dollar if a citizen got out of line they would be first to pounce on them. >> mr. sessions has a lot of big decisions to take, and soon. >> congressman ron desantos thank you. >> thank you. >> coming right back with more. stay with us. >> president trump slamming the national left wing media over claims of chaos within the white house.

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stuart: house minority leader nancy pelosi said she does not think that conor lamb the special investigation by run -- elect by running an anti-pelosi campaign. >> i think he ran on a positive agenda. i don't think it had that much impact on the race, he won. stuart: a tough sell considering that lamb ran this ad for nearly a month. >> my opponentments yo my open e biggest issue in this campaign is nanc nancy pelosi, i have aly said on front page of the newspaper, that i don't support nancy pelosi. stuart: ed rollins here, former reagan political director. >> i have been fighting nancy pelosi forever we grew up in the

bay area. i think she should retire, it is boost her time, she is 3 years older than i am and i am going to be 75 next week. in some district, you don't want to advocates the. project what you are about, what he projected very well is he is not going to be a left wing liberal san francisco democrat, he will represent the trump supporters in pennsylvania. stuart: is it an -- not not opet large scale revolt at this time that challenges pelosi. >> i think vast majority of members who appreciate all she has done, raised a lot of money, and eye good speaker for democrat perspective they would be happy if she retired. stuart: what is your judgment of president's speech in pennsylvania, saturday night, on for an hour it was trump unleashed. >> president closed gap, this is

say race down 12 points in polls, he closed gap. we're not going to win majority of republicans in fall based on president alone. we'll make it the candidates who are running beat their opponent by arguing the president's programs will be successful, the best argument i can make any candidate, elect me i'm going to washington to work with donald trump. this man, who won, said, there will be times i am working with this president, he was a democrat that is powerful. stuart: the economy is growing nicely, thank you. there is now talk of second phase of tax cuts, whether we get it or not we don't know but they are talking about it president running in midterms, republicans on his record. in some respects, i think that republicans will walk away from trump persona. >> trump alone cannot carry all of the members, he can help in

some cases districts not as much. but the economy is what he is architect of, that is what they want to sell. stuart: do you think it is chaos in the white house? as described by media in. >> i think any white house having worked in two, and 3 administrations is a hard place to work, i don't think it is chaos, i think that president is trying to find a team he is comfortable with, he did not know a lot of these players, people were recommended to him, he is discovering whether tillrr tillerson has opposite views than he has you don't want him to a plane -- he gets to pick his team, and have anyone he wants in there, it is his decision. stuart: do you think that frequent change in top level stand does that affect president's ability to implement positive program. >> not this president, he

thrives on chaos and everything well, he is functioning well, she comfortable. stuart: you can't say he as grown into the job. >> he is comfortable. what he has learned, you realize how it works, when you get in there, you are not really -- then all of a sudden, you say, i can do this just make decisions people help me put packages together, 1 i make the decisions, i want them implemented, he is comfortable with that now. stuart: different from any other president in my lifetime. >> i teach a course of american presidency there are 44 men who have been president, he is 45th. and his never been one like him, i said to the -- we have to redo the course because trump is separate from everyone else. stuart: do you think we'll get used to him? >> i think soafer overtime, i te are getting used to him now, he

will never be as popular as reagan but at the end of day people will say he made things work and fixed economy he was aid good president. stuart: does he win in 2020. >> i think he could, bottom line is them democrat, always a game of what is running against the you, i don't think there is no one that is beat him in primary. stuart: ed rollins, good to see you. >> thank you. stuart: vote in tonight's poll, do you believe the fbi, have be investigating rogue employers involved in corrupt subversion of president trump? cast your vote on twitter @loudobbs, and it will lou on twitter @loudobbs. on wall street stocks closed mix, dow gaining 115. volume on the big board 3.5 billion shares. >> optimism among

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subsidiary of bank of china just 10 days after he visited with his dad in 2013. joining me now dr. going t goino worka going tgorka, whereoutragi have not seen any. >> could you imagine if a fraction was this story was alleged against jared kushner. the book is just out. in a nutshell, story as you said, stepson of john kerry, son of joseph biden, when they were cabinet members ofs obama administration, they created a company called seneca, and inked a deal with china, then bought a u.s. manufacturing company, hennings making sensitive equipment crucial to american

military at home. i am rarely at a loss for words, but this is potentially one of the biggest pay for play scandals outside of uranium one. stuart: if they were sons ofs chinese leaders they would be called princ -- princelings. i can't imagine anything like this before. this is really a bombshell story. >> it is. we expect this in a country like china that pretends to have a free market and most impressive, biggest companies in china are intertwined with the communist party, and leading families of the party. this is happening in america.

not just linked to government, this is when john kerry is chairman of the committee which has to approve these deals with communist china. oh, and by the way, he does not recuse himself, they approve the deal with communist china, this is stunning. stuart: before we went on air, i was talking to you indirectly about the story, you said, you are gob smacked. i believe a british expression, i am familiar with it you used to accurately this is an extraordinary story, i have to move on. if jeff sessions, attorney general, does not fire mccabe. if he does not appoint a second special counsel, should president trump fire sessions? >> look, i made a promise to my old boss the president i would not attack sitting members of

his cabinet from outside of the building, but at the end of the day this is not about one man's pension, this is about felonies, we have senior individuals in u.s. government, highest levels of doj and fbi that are clearly, there is reasonable suspicion these individuals were involved in felons such as illegal surveillance of u.s. citizens, action has to be taken, i don't care if it is sessions or the president but we must restore law and order. stuart: i'm not that familiar within legalism, i am familiar with a cabal operating in fbi to exonerate hillary clinton and due down the incoming president, president trump that is extra extraordinary to have senior

members, working against and undermining an incoming president. that is another thing i never heard of before, period. >> not only that, that in itself is a real blow to the integrity our way of government. but look at back story to how the fisa warrants was acquired, hillary clinton financed a russia propaganda campaign, the steel dossier was knowingly built on false russia propaganda material, christopher steel was in contact with russia agents, she pays millions for it and that is used to justify the secret surveillance warrant. wear in had a presidential candidate pay millions of dollars for a hit piece in a secret court to spy on americans if we read this in a tom clancy

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program project grant advisory committee. >> i don't know what is going on in california these days, every day they are defying federal law. responsibility they have, to keep their community safe? to represent their is thes citizens this an example, i am a strong 10men 10 amendment right person. but enforcing the immigration laws, is responsible of the federal government, and state and local government cannot go against that they should not be picking this fight, they should spend more time focusing on creating jobs, and help the homeless and other flawed policies in california with high taxes, they are moving to arizona. stuart: i am sure you are glad to have hem them. it seems that california is

seceding not really part of the union. i feel that president trump is confronting that head on, are you pleased to see that. >> we're a republic, you know we have different states. you know mississippi, maine, alabama, california. but what is going on in california right now, they are defying complying with federal law and federal responsibility, they are choosing to put all their energy into this issue instead of addressing real issues of the people who live in california, the citizens. it is appropriate for trump administration to take them on. for, that think about kate stai- kate steinle's family, a criminal alien deported 5 times was let out of prison, because of california policies, they were not allowing i.c.e. agent to go to prison and pick him up to keep the community safe, he was then allowed to be in a

position to shoot and kill kate steinle this makes no sense, they should allow the federal agent in prison, as opposed to finding them out in communities again. the public safety issues are real, and the grieving families deal with them every day. they need to stop picking this fight, this is appropriate for federal government to challenge them on this. and focus on keep their community safe, provide better opportunity and jobs, you know clean up their act. stuart: i see that president is pushing back hard. and is winning some rounds for example, a court in texas said it is okay to ban sanctuary cities. this is say significant win for the president. and that ruling, could actually be applied in other states and sanctuary areas. >> is a big win. this is federal law, this is clear. the law of the land. this ruling in texas, i think will reverberate on other places, it is unfortunate that there has to be that lawsuit for

california, but i think they will prevail. because it is the responsibility they cannot thumb their nose at the important issues, with the sanctuary state they have. not the city. but, you know i have long supported a border wall system, i said the other day maybe we need to build a wall between california as are and arizona their dangerous policies are going to affect the rest of us, their criminal aliens do not just stay in california they impact tho other communities ths that is not there right. stuart: i believe you are going to white house next week, discussing wall, pushing for it? >> yes, i am we had officials from. in all representing the border patrol agents, talking about imporimimportance that has comer request for a border call

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stuart: the united states does not have a bloody nose strategy for a preemptive strike against north korea. hairivharris testified today abt military options being considered. >> i'm charged with developing for national command authority a range of options, through the spectrum of violence. i am ready to could cute whatever the president -- to execute what president and national command authority direct he to do, but a bloody nose strategy is no contemplate. we have to be ready to do the

whole thing. stuart: all right the whole thing. joining me now, former cia analyst fred, also author of new book the coming north korea nuclear nightmare. this is say title. -- there is a title. >> why ha hasn't kim jong-un saa single word or put out a single statement about the proposed meeting since it was announced. >> can i comment on bloody nose strike. someone in -- leaked it to news media, according to south korea newspaper it had a real affect and may have convinced it open negotiate with south go to olympic, i think that trump administration backed away from that. basically because the south korea government hated the idea. but let's not pretend no one in tripling string wa trump

administration, i think someone was, but idea that kim government has not responded to the president agreement to a summit, i think that president, by throwing out diplomatic rule book surprised kim government as much as he surprised everyone in the world. i don't know if the offer of the serious or if kim government thought that president would accept so rapidly, i think they are now trying to figure out what to do. stuart: kim jong-un has never faced an american president like president trump. mr. trump always keeping his opponents off balance. that is what he does. and i think he is good at it. but this meeting. where might it take place? i hear sweden is possible, but i cannot imagine kim jong-un wanted to travel overseas, he does not know what is going to happen at home. >> i don't think that is going to happen. the north korea foreign minter travel to -- minister travel to squeeze en. there were some discussions

about improving relations. i would not be surprised if summit is held in beijing. i would like to see it take place in seoul. i would like kim jong-un exposed to the prosperity and freedom of south korea. i also think that there are aligned forces behind the scenes that manipulate kim jong-un, i would like to see him less suspect to them -- susceptible to them, and meet with the south korean and u.s. in seoul. stuart: is it possible that at end of the day we'll get a deal, denuclear jaidenuke -- is is th. >> there are no american nukes in south korea right now, i don't think that u.s. troops would withdraw, and i don't think this offer for a sum sit

legitimate -- summit is legitimate. they will have to go along way to convince us they are sincere, we have to assume right now this is say ploy, this particular set of talks probably will be inch - inconclusive. stuart: president trump has made the point that everything is on the table. you never know what he will do next. >> use of force by this president, is what brought the north korean to the table, fact that this president, he said at united nations, i'm prepared to destroy north korea, if it threatens u.s. and its allies, i think that put the fear of god in government of north korea, at least forcing them to change tactics. stuart: i am smiling because, i can't imagine any other world leader, certainly no other american president saying anything like that to kim jong-un before. >> at the u.n., it really had --

remember how outraged world diplomats and foreign policy experts were, now kim is asking for a meeting. stuart: it worked, fred are all right, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. stuart: up next. pelosi in peril? more democrats likely to aboone doabandonpelosi after the pennsa stunner. we take with up with our panel next. pssst. what? i switched to geico and got more. more savings on car insurance? a-ha. and an award-winning mobile app. that is more. oh, there's more. mobile id cards, emergency roadside service... more technology. i can even add a new driver... ...right from her phone! geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. smile dad. i take medication for

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stuart: president trump today meeting with bill gates at white house, it was closed to the press. >> we provide country up lifting them. >> we made the world's more stable richer place. stuart: well soy why was he at the white house? i have a theory, joining me now defense attorney rebecca rosewood land, and new york radio host, mark samoan, i don't think they were talking foreign policy, i think that bill gates grinding his acts --ax about china steeling his software -- stealing his software am i wrong? >> no, i didn't know they had microsoft. stuart: i do own microsoft

stock, i should declare that fully. but, i think that could have been a serious topic. >> the the reason stated that bill gates foundation, trying to give money to third world country, he was there to discuss some ways to do that in conforming with government, and president. i think that while he was there, he gave his information he gave his ideas his thoughts to president trump on some of the taxes. on some of the steel issues, the tariffs. i am sure bill gates did offer them. stuart: i would be prepared to bet to president did most of the talking and talking right at him. >> having watch the president innese meeting -- these meetings he probably asked a lot of shrewd questions. about theft of intellec intellel

property. stuart: we have so-called news robert mueller is subpoenaing. special counsel order documents directly related to president's business being turned over. >> so far we have not seen much, he is just continuing. we're not getting answers, just more investigations to lead nowhere. stuart: are we tired of this? a year into this, no collusion, no evidence. he just goes on and on. then looking for something, they are looking for anything to justify their position. >> the year, 12 million dollars later and they have not found anything, i know they will say there are indictments and guilty 3 pleas. none of them have going to do with russia.

>> this is ongoing, i don't know what it will stop do you? >> no, i don't think any of us do, he has free range. >> do you think that president should fire him. >> that is where it is -- that is where it is difficult because, even for him, in terms of his how he looks, if he fires someone who is conducting an investigation into him and his group of people, what does that lock look like. keep looking. you are not going to find anything. >> 30 daytime limit, wind it up, mueller has screwed up some investigations before, the an anthrax investigation, stephen hatfeld, he got the wrong guy, government made a settlement with him. >> i love that timeline. stuart: if attorney general jeff sessions does not fire mccabe, soon, and if attorney general, jeff sessions, does not arc appt

a second special counsel some the president fire jeff session. >> i think that president should actively seek attention to the matter, that is a nice way to put it. stuart: i am just sitting in for lou. what do you say? >> jeff sessions is symbol of government. he talks, nothing happens, he doesn't get anything done. stuart: is this chaos, in the white house? the media all over this, they keep using that word, is it chaos or is president organizing his team the way he wants it. >> absolutely, everywhere i work, someone is leaving there is a cake a party every tuesday. iit is not chaos. it is just a change. stuart: i asked this question, so many people on my show, and on lou's show. do you think we'll ever get used to this president? the way he conducts his office?

>> i think it his management tile. stuart: but will we get used to it. >> doesn't matter. as long as government works, and the people in the country are benefiting from that. does this matter how he manages? >> politically, did yo does it . >> that different than good of the people, that is what trump is saying good of the people will benefit from li his style. >> he surg he is under a minuteo minute microscope. stuart: does his persona get in the way of him putting in place his growth agenda? my sudde-- it is in place no mar what. >> people will look at final score on scoreboard. stuart: okay, i think we have to wrap it up, mark and rebecca rose thank you. >> thank you. stuart: that regret abily is it

for us tonight, we thank you for joining us, congressman sean duffy, and general jack keane tomorrow. you can catch me 9:00 tomorrow morning. reporter: let's go live to miami where a press conference is in play. let's listen in. >> we have worked together on this situation. we have significant numbers of men, women and equipment committed to this. and we'll be here until the job is done. at this time on behalf of the mayor i would like to introduce and welcome governor scott. >> on behalf of everybody in our state, including my family. our heart goes out tobo