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feds. >> kyle, sarge, guess what? we are closing at the highs of the session. the numbers still need to settle. the dow is back up above 24,000. we're up 394 points. may go up higher. i don't know, "after the bell" might see that. david: thanks for the hit. we're getting close. melissa: 398. 385, we almost had it. david: we were there about this long. melissa: almost 400 points. this is incredible where we're at. 386 up. we will take that. and liz is talking about this in the last hour, stocks jumping 300 points. incredible. the dow has recooped most of yesterday's losses, closing up again as we're looking at the 386 and change, a gain of more than 1.5%. this is still has been the worst start for april in decades for the markets and the volatility i think i've got a sore neck from all the swings. you know? incredible. all the major averages ending
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up 1% or more. i'm cheryl casone in for melissa francis this afternoon. david: we got spoiled in 2017. used to things going up with no volatility and now we have. this but, look, a terrific day, i'm so glad you could join us, i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." 28 out of the dow 30 closing in the green. ibm and ge were the lone laggards. straight to the exchanges. phil flynn watching oil and goal, but first to my buddy ashley webster on the floor of the new york stock exchange. slightly different mood on the floor today. reporter: most definitely, david. what's new? we were on the upside. we claud back on the dow almost everything we lost yesterday. down almost 400 yesterday, up 387 on the dow. 24,031. the s&p up 1.25% at 2614, which is above that 2900 or
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thereabouts -- i'm sorry, 2590 200-day moving average. the tech stocks took such a hammering. didn't bounce back with a lot of commitment today. the tech stocks, facebook up half a percent, apple also up 1%. amazon, going to get on, that bigger story with amazon today. did recover. netflix and google/alphabet moving higher. up day for the tech sector but didn't bounce back as much as we would have liked to have done. tonight talk about amazon. a surge in amazon later in the day on a report from bloomberg that said citing sources within the trump administration that said that administration doesn't have the intent to use power against amazon, not in the short-term. i don't know how convincing that report is but nevertheless it did push amazon stock higher. finishing up 20 bucks. it did get above 1400 at one point.
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tesla, we saw tesla move higher today. finally put out a report on production that gave confidence to investors. the model 3 sedan, the mass-produced vehicle, they produced just over 2,000 of those vehicles in the last seven days, that gave confidence back to people who believe in the company and tesla will move higher as a result of that, guys. >> the naysayers say that tesla is bankrupt. there you go. ashley webster, great stuff on the floor of the new york stock exchange. relationship isn't always like this, we've got to be clear, oil did follow the stock market higher today, ended above 6350 a barrel. national average prices, regular gasoline up 33 cents from last year. near a three-year high and the epa just announced it's going to be rolling back obama-era fuel efficiency regulations. phil flynn, curious what effect that announcement had on oil today and gas futures today? >> i think psychologically,
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cheryl, definitely a positive, because if you look at these regulations to roll back, you know, increase mileage in the cars, you're using less gasoline. heck, with tesla, if they went out of business, you'd be using a lot more gasoline, right? obviously, the market is looking at the longer term situation. that's not going to impact the market in the short term. california makes their own regulations when it comes to epa standards and they're going to fight this tooth and name. i don't think it's going to happen overnight. automakers are slow to adapt to it, secretly they're smiling after that. oil prices are up on the stock market. gold prices, on the other hand, it was the negative, risk on-risk off, things are looking better, sell gold, buy stocks, back to you. >> adding to your plan on california, they have their unique blends because they're, well, california when it comes to gasoline. david: anything to make things more difficult in the marketplace. california will do it.
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gary kaltbaum from kaltbaum capital management and scott martin from kings view asset management. both are fox news contributors. gary, positive news in the economy. we've had so many positive developments when it comes to gdp growth, people buying stuff in the retail market, and now with regard to efficiency standards being lower, all this is going to help business in america, so if the economy is doing so well, why is the market so unsure of itself? today was great. it's wonderful to have almost 400-point gain. we've seen this so often. you have a 400-point gain and a 400-point loss in the next couple of days. >> from the election to january 29th, we moved about six years of market gains. it is normal to have pretty good corrections after something like that, that's what we are seeing at this point in time, but also remember, there's been good news but also our wonderful government decided to up
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government spending which is not a great thing. so there is good and some bad. i love what they're doing as far as going after the epa and what they did the last few years. i think that helps. the best news i can give you on the market right now is i look at very, very, very long-term support, today it held for now. doesn't mean it's not going to go down tomorrow, as long as the long-term levels hold, i think we could say i am doubtful we have a lot of upside in the near-term, we have back and forth at best. david: scott, every bit of good news in 2017 led to another spurt in the market. not necessarily so this year and, of course, we've got the jobs report coming out on friday. if it's a terrific number like last month, are we going to see a ho-hum attitude by the markets or the markets react positively to good news? >> i hope they do, david. that's data we've been waiting for many years to back up the big moves in 2017. don't forget. the february jobs number in february was the thing that
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kicked off this volatile period, really. david: that's because it was inflation, wasn't the jobs per se. >> sort of. david: it's inflation, right? >> isn't it funny, scared about inflation and wage growth at 2 1/2, maybe 3% and inflation is going to run away? that's the scary thing, david, the economy can't fail us now but can't get too hot which puts the market in a precarious position in my opinion. david: quickly, on two individual companies. first gary, to you and amazon. the president once again talking about amazon. let's play the sound bite? >> the post office is losing billions of dollars and the taxpayers are paying for that money because it delivers packages for amazon at a very below cost. and that's not fair to the united states. david: gary, despite today's speech by the president, a little bit of a speech on amazon, it ended up, i'm wondering if the market is beginning to take this with a grain of salt, what the
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president is saying about amazon? >> it ended up because late in the day, sarah sanders was asked the question whether you are going to do something about amazon? they said not at this point in time. that got market going back up and amazon. the problem is don't blink, i don't know what the next tweet is going to be. if donald trump wakes up tomorrow and starts ripping on amazon, goes down with the markets. amazon is a big influence on the markets and emotion of the markets and you've been seeing it in spades over the last couple of weeks. david: okay, scott, finally on tesla, a big pop today, up about 5%. on the other hand, they still have the problem about producing cars. they're in the car business. they made a commitment to 400,000 people who put down 1,000 bucks each that they come out with the cars but delay the deliveries. what's going to happen with tesla? >> going bounce around a lot. tesla is getting a case of the overreactions to the downside. maybe see elon musk on the
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production line to get the cars going. he had uninevitable tweet and enviable tweet on april fool's day about the company going bankrupt. that wasn't good. the reality is going to set in, great technology, great batteries, they obviously lose a lot of money but there is the demand there. david, if they can get the cars into production, that's going to help the stock. david: gary and scott, good stuff, guys, thank you very much. appreciate it. cheryl? >> speaking of demand, in the spotlight on the floor of the new york stock exchange today was spotify. the music streaming service going public, and kristina partsinevelos is there on the floor of the new york stock exchange. what a day? reporter: it was quite the day. it wasn't your typical public listing, a direct listing for spotify. they had to get all the orders in first. we waited three hours and they decided what the price would be, and opening price is $165.90. seeing it close at $149.
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that is 20 bucks down from what we saw in the peak today. yes, closing higher than reference point, but still lower than we saw throughout the day. and this wasn't your typical listing either. public listing. you didn't have the balloons, you didn't have the ringing of the bell. you didn't have the ceo doing interviews with the press or else we would have had him on. if anything, they tried to do it in a democratic and transparent way according to the company. they wanted to avoid all of that and literally list all of their shares onto the market. so let's recap a little bit what spotify is. maybe viewers are watching, i use cds or listen to pandora. it's a music streaming site. about $5 billion in revenue but haven't turned a profit in 12 years. they do have 71 million active paying users and more than double are active users. i found today there is a way to bypass all the ads so you don't have to pay and block the ads. that is something the company
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said they're trying to mitigate and fix, and available all across the globe. i used spotify in a western african country. the problem is how is it going to grow? turn a profit in the future. >> right now for every dollar they make. 70 cents. 70 cents goes to royalty fees. fees they have to pay, artists, music producers for every single song that they have, but working out the deals. last week, taylor swift dropped her second music video just last week and they have other deals with artists, coming up. yes, it was an interesting day, different type of listing for spotify. >> yeah, certainly was. a direct listing something to watch today. thank you very much. good to have you in the analysis. and bring in more analysis russell holly, russell, good to have youer. >> thank you. >> she was talking about the subscriber issues. it's $9.99 if you're a paid
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subscriber, but the users are finding ways to get around the advertisements. pandora doesn't have that problem but spotify does. does that concern you? >> well, you find ways to get around advertising services for a lot of different subscription based models. similar versions with youtube and i'm sure there is some version happening with pandora. what it comes down to for spotify, needing a way to bypass the licensing issue. >> do you think they should be worried what's happening in technology with the scandals and the wish users' data whether it's facebook or could be amazon, apple, saks fifth avenue. do you think that is a concern for this company? >> a concern for every company. everybody that has a phone should be concerned with the information they gather and how they gather the information. so it could end up being what are we getting from facebook when we use facebook as a login system for example. >> interesting information about what spotify could do. one of the ideas floated around in the analyst community is
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take the netflix model, that spotify could become a record label, a record producer. actually produce original content to bring folks in. what do you make of that idea? >> well, we're already seeing the early footsteps of these systems where things are being published exclusively on spotify to begin with. received warmly. i wouldn't be shocked to see anybody go that route. in order for spotify to make it work, approach a niche successful to how comedy shows on building that content. >> interesting idea. the other issue is talk about the competition whether it's pandora, apple music. pandora is public. has been public for four years. the stock in three years has taken a real hit from an investment perspective, any of these services, you know, apple doesn't have the problem because they've got other products and services. but the competitive landscape
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for just being a streaming service of music seems to be pretty narrow. >> yeah, absolutely, any time you have just kind of that really niche service that's hard to compete with. especially with the ecosystem login from apple, google and microsoft who are interested in having the services built into everything already. >> what do you make of the -- i'm asking this because i wonder what you think of the management of spotify. what do you make of the direct listing? ris risky proposition for the market to dictate. there is no favoritism as you have on investment bank. what do you make of that and what does that say about the company's leaders? >> spotify's leaders has had a well-documented history of listening to people around them. immediate investors and the company that they have built around them, and so this is just the natural result of that. >> russell, thank you very much for the perspective. it is a fascinating way not just to go public but fascinating technology service as well. we'll see how they do.
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thank you, russell. >> thank you. david: do you use it? >> i use pandora. david: i use pandora too! >> and i have apple music, but you know, i don't know. david: it's not that expensive. it's like 4 or 5 bucks. >> i paid to get rid of the ads. you know? david: let's bring in stephen guilfoyle. we loved you so much, we brought you back. bottom line, we're used to seeing the recovery following the next day, by another sell-off. any inclination that might happen tomorrow? >> i hope you're wrong because i'm not long. i have a feeling you might be onto something there. we used to call buy the dip, buy the f-dip. people are saying sell the pop. let's see if the rally is sold into overnight. >> the way you phrase that, doesn't that indicate to that you maybe this is a bear market we're in right now? >> well, the thought has crossed my mind.
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as you know because you speak to me often, i'm pretty famous for buying dips, dangerous dips and getting away with it. last night i took a pass on that dip. i'm still not long so i made out, but not like i would if i bought the dip. they put it in the back of my mind. you know what i did last night? i bought vietnam funds to avoid the exposure. the stock was up nice today. that's what i've been loading up on, a diversified way around the obstacles. they will be here with us for a while. you still have jobs and jerome powell on friday. david: i'm sorry, you do stuff that folks don't do. i don't think many people watching would buy into vietnam. most people are not these short buyers and sellers the way you are. they buy and hold for a while. if you're buying and holding or you okay? >> okay depending where you are. for someone like that with that investment profile, i would say how about looking at defense names? they come in with the rest of
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the stocks the last couple of days but president trump is spending on defense, china spending on defense, europe spending on defense, south america is spending on defense. be it raytheon, boeing, those are the stocks you want to own going forward. david: on the other side are you out of everything involving technology right now? >> no, not even close. no. i floated air out of tires. i have four tires i can ride around on. i just don't have four full tires. >> what are you buying? anything that's been beaten down so much that you're getting back into it? >> you know what i bought last night and this morning before it popped? amazon. david: interesting. it didn't pop that much, not like tesla. only up 1%. >> it popped a little bit. i have almost no fang exposure unless you count apple and the video which most people don't countment and amazon is one of the true four fangs they like the best and sold, it not all of it but hung onto a small
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amount. it came in so far, it was time to reload the stock. >> the most often asked question i get maybe it shows i'm hanging around retired people, which i change my 401(k) to something that's a little safer than 100% stock. what would you advise them? >> well, you know, i don't have my retirement money in 100% stocks. david: is that right? >> oh, no. right now i'm 36.9% cash. i've been at a high level of cash since january because i got -- i got rattled back, i continue sounds like i timed the market right, i didn't catch the precise top but i did feel we were getting pricey in january. i went to 31% cash and during the sell-off i added another 5% in that position. david: to time it right, you had to buy on the night of election. very simple. from that point everything was up until 2018. stephen, good to see you, thank you very much, sarge,
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appreciate it. >> nice to see you. david: cheryl? >> disturbing news out of the bay area right now. live picture from ktvu, our fox affiliate in oakland, california. this is youtube headquarters. sam bruno, right now headquarters are on lockdown. there are reports of an active shooter that stormed the building. now alphabet, the parent company says there is investigation under way. san bruno police tweeting active situation, telling everyone to stay out of area. using twitter to do that. we are monitoring this. one employee that is highly touted on twitter. he is locked inside of his room with other co-workers and tweeted i'm safe, i got evacuated out. obviously, we're following this breaking news out ofux tube headquarters in san bruno, california. we'll keep you posted. david: good-bye new york, more residents and businesses are fleeing the i high-tax state.
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. cheryl: continue to follow the breaking news out of san bruno california. live pictures from ktvu, our fox affiliate in the san francisco bay area. this san aerial shot of youtube's headquarters in san bruno california. headquarters right now on lockdown. there have been reports of an active shooter that stormed the building. alphabet is the parent company of youtube. there's an investigation under way. san bruno police went to twitter to tell people to stay out of that area. fox business' deirdre bolton is monitoring the latest details we're getting into our newsroom. what are you hearing? reporter: cheryl, as you mentioned, this town is about 20 minutes south of san francisco, and while the police have not been able to confirm the report of active shooter, the san bruno police have tweeted out a message from the official account saying police
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activity asked and they gave the address of the youtube headquarters. please stay out of area. there are also presumably employees, i'm reading one off my twitter feed about 20 minutes ago. i did check the person's bio, he does work at youtube. active shooter at youtube headquarters, heard shots and saw people running while at my desk, now barricaded inside a room with co-workers. he tweeted this about 20 minutes ago. so local news, to your point, cheryl, confirming this report of possible active shooter. the police, the local police not yet doing it. we will keep you posted and youtube, this headquarter about 17 to 20 minutes south of san francisco. cheryl: deirdre, if you look at this live shot, you can see the amount of police cars surrounding the building right now, and i believe that's a s.w.a.t. vehicle to the right of our screen as well. obviously, there say huge
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police response to all of this. that same employee tweeted out that he is outside of the building and he was evacuated, that we hope would be a good development. talking about the same youtube employee that used to be at facebook. we're looking to see if the shooting situation is still under way or if there's been a conclusion. we'll come back to you as news develops. let us know what you find out. >> will do. david: want to keep the picture up if we can. one of the developments if there is lightness in this cloud, everybody there is on social media of some kind much we're getting direct feeds from literally in the hundreds of individuals stuck there talking about exactly what is happening. we won't report what we can't confirm but can tell you that every bit of information that is going on right there is now being reported on. as you can see, the various police that are going in and
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out, there isn't this tremendous sense of urgency. you can see the long guns there. they are well armed. the police walking there. not the running or that you very often see in evacuations where there is still a gunner on the loose. cheryl: all right, we want to listen in to commentary coming in from ktvu, our fox affiliate in the bay area to listen to what they are reporting. >> vehicles speeding toward el camino real and heading towards this direction, a lot of police officers everywhere and a lot of workers standing and walking around the property. not clear yet because we just got here about five minutes ago, whether or not they were in the particular building affected by this. trying to gather as much information as we can. as you can imagine. it is active. helicopters flying overhead and i can count just from the distance about 20 to 30 police officers or members of law enforcement gathering in a particular area. can't tell what we're doing but
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heading in that direction to find out what they can tell us about what's happening here. >> andre, you can't hear anything perhaps in the way of gunshots or loud noises from where you are, can you? >> i can't hear any of that. couple of helicopters hovering above that seem to be law enforcement helicopters. i cannot hear much beyond that in terms of if there is any action, if you will, between authorities and possibly what's happening inside that building. no, i cannot. >> what's your sense of how people are reacting to this? frightened? trying to get out of area? standing by and standing around? what's going on? >> great question, ken. we saw people in work gear heading away from the scene. not a fast pace. walking calmly. this is an office park, there could be members, people that work in the surrounding office buildings some, cannot get back into certain parts of the
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parking lot but walking calmly away from the area. i did talk to a man dropping off his wife back in another building on his property, when they just saw all of this happen, the police officers racing past him. they don't know what's going on. checking twitter, checking facebook to find out what they can learn about what's happening here. >> how far away are you? one block? two blocks? is a large area cordoned off? what's the access? >> only a portion is cordoned off with the entrance to the building where the headquarters are located. people are able to get to the parking lot from another location, get close to where police are right now. i don't see crime scene tape or anything like that. daly city police blocking people from entering the particular part of the parking lot closer to the building where this reportedly happened. >> andre singer bringing live reports from the scene.
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we'll bring you in as soon as we have new information. talk about the youtube headquarters. a name known around the world for tech. one of the grandparents here in the bay area. we're talking about that campus at 901 cherry avenue. the most recent information we have is a few years old. when 800 people, employed by youtube working there in san bruno. the 800 number gives you a sense of people working in san bruno. largest private employer. a huge company there. >> and you can see by the pictures from skyfox of the facility, a modern look building. my understanding and someone will correctly that youtube started in san mateo and was its own company and bought by google. now it's part of the google family and moved under the google umbrella into this facility in san bruno. really is a part of google though the brand name youtube is familiar around the world. the most wildly popular video
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streaming service on the internet that we're familiar with. interesting what andre said about people seemed to be orderly leaving that area and makes me think though we have one looks like a young woman running down the sidewalk. may have a phone to her ear. she could be trying to find out something about somebody she knows at that place. you could see in that shot before it went to black, the sign for the youtube building as she ran by. she looks to be in an area within that shelter in place zone if she's right next to that building. >> the only person we see on the street. >> exactly. why is she there and and where is she going? may have just been able to get out of the building and trying to run to safety. it will be interesting to see officers approach her or assist her to find out what's going on that. is a rather unusual striking image. we haven't seen anything like that up to this point. what i was getting at, people being fairly orderly. we're used to earthquakes.
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we're used to wildfires and these kinds of things and so much news lately about the mass shootings. i think in a sense that people are kind of ready for it. >> many of us go through training at workplaces for such an event. a live picture. ktvu's jesse gary, live on the ground. from the scene. bring us what you know from where you are. >> hey, guys, sorry about that. we just arrived here. the staging area. i tried to get information from a staging deputy and they quickly moved us back to where you see me right now where they put up the yellow tape. we've not been told anything about how many shooters may be involved whether it's one or more than one. how many victims there are or where the evacuees are moved to. so we are efforting to get more information from the san mateo county sheriff's department
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which is apparently the lead on this deputy. and if you give me one second. deputy any, indication. is there any news on when you can get someone just to give us an idea? >> no. >> how many shooters, if the shoot ser down, if the shooter -- >> i appreciate you want information. can you move this tripod? >> i'll move the tripod. is there any way can you tell us anything substantive? >> no. >> you guys heard that. they're not going to give us anything substantive right now but moving a van. >> that was our reporter for ktvu, at the fox affiliate there. just to recap, if you are joining us on fox business, the breaking news. 12:57 p.m., an alert went out on twitter, many employees on youtube saying they heard shots fired, barricaded in offices. san bruno police at 1:01
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pacific time, 4:01 part-time eastern time saying everyone needed to clear the area. that is the last update we've gotten. now the san mateo sheriff's office has taken the lead, and many employees to the left of your screen that have evacuated the building that are lined up outside. we are seeing reports employees are leaving the building also, that there's an active shooter situation. we don't have more details on that. but to give you a sense youtube's headquarters, used to be gap's old headquarters about a decade ago or so, and youtube took it over. as the anchor from ktvu mentioned, youtube was bought by the google-alphabet family. 800 employees work in this building. a 200,000-square-foot building again in san bruno. we continue to monitor the live pictures and watch to get more breaking details. we don't know anything about the shooter, if it was one, if
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it was two. trying to get more information as that reporter was trying. david: joining us is joseph, a former nypd sergeant. this is an area, 12 miles south of svment just to give a sense of geography here. well covered, and this particular campus, the youtube campus, cheryl was saying 200,000 square feet. it must make it easier to contain the area knowing that it is a campus and i would assume a somewhat secure campus? >> certainly, you can also, the ingress and egress points should be verifiable. what i'm hearing is it's easy to get on this campus. they were talking about people being able to swipe a card to get in and you follow piggy back right in behind another car. it appears as if security wasn't up to snuff for a location like this. this is just what i'm hearing. issue that you are dealing with
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now, you can see police, it's kind of orderly. searching the workers coming out of building. doesn't seem to be a rush to get anybody away from the building. it's another contained or over with at this moment. david: do you think this is something completely dealt with by the local police or fbi or other officials involved? >> well, i think the local police are going to handle this that would include the fbi. what we see now is every time there seems to be a mass shooting or hint of mass shooting, the fbi is going to come. it's a major city and google youtube, i wouldn't be surprised if we see the fbi trucks roll in here. david: you mentioned a lack of urgency here. it does appear there is nobody running around. we remember those horrible scenes at the florida shooting a couple of months ago where it was quite clear when the situation was quite active. seems that this has either been
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contained or far enough away from where the shooting was so that there's not that same sense of urgency. right now as they zoom down another pocket of people that have been evacuated from the headquarters. but again, if there was an active shooter involved, you wouldn't have people out in the parking lot, would you? >> they're just mulling around here. i would surmise that the threat was over if there was a threat at all. we don't know the exact implication what's going on here. they have piles of people out here in the parking lots and lot of cops standing around. there's nobody running around the s.w.a.t. teams or anything else. cheryl: i want to add, david, we're seeing a tweet from@google communications, authorities will provide official information as it becomes available. that was just tweeted out by them two minutes ago. david: how is there the local
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police involved in a situation that clearly they had security on the campus itself. did they work together? are the police taking complete control of the situation? >> well, they're going to collaborate with the security they have on there, this is a police issue that they're going to handle this. you will see the detectives from the local police department come in here and handle this investigation, crime scene, vans and forensics teams. when you are taking a look at this, you think of a couple things, you are thinking that somebody had a beef with somebody in there, a boyfriend/girlfriend thing. these are the things that the police have to start to figure out now their investigation as they're getting information from people in debriefing people leaving the headquarters. david: former sergeant and nypd, thank you so much, detective. appreciate it. >> take care, dave. cheryl: let's go back to deirdre bolton in the newsroom, gathering more information on the breaking news out of youtube. deirdre, what are you learning? >> i certainly have. learning about more people on
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lockdown who are in business offices nearby. as you mentioned, youtube has 800 employees. the biggest employer in that space. in that small town. but there are gunshots that obviously there are people writhe this on twitter. my office across the street is on lockdown. reading through a few more of what people who are currently barricaded or on lockdown who are sheltering in place, what they're putting out on twitter. there are people even tweeting out photos. much the same. footage that you're showing on screen where there doesn't seem to be a lot of activity. empty sidewalks. another saying we were sitting in a meeting, we heard people running. some of us thought it was an earthquake because we heard rumbling on the floor. first thought it was an earthquake, now understand it may be something else. people are continuing to tweet out on personal accounts. people in the neighborhood who work for youtube directly or
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who work in business offices in the area, and as we were mentioning to this town was about 20 minutes south of san francisco, and as you have been reporting, the local news is reporting this obviously, but the local police has yet to confirm that there is an active shooter have, asked everyone to stay out of the area. back to you, cheryl. david: just to recap. this was 40 minutes ago. the youtube headquarters. about 12 miles south of san francisco. ktvu is interviewing someone from the campus, let's listen in. >> okay. from the shooting scene and tell me what you heard? >> i was in my backyard and heard a series of gunshots. and i don't know gunshots but i could tell that's what it was. it went on, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom and it went on for quite a few seconds. >> when you say you heard gunshots, it was a handgun, a
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bang or another shot or like -- >> i don't know the difference. >> was it rapid fire? >> it was one after another, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and i heard more. and i heard it more quiet like he was going away. i could hear it loud and got like it was moving. reporter: like the shooter was changing positions and moving away. you heard a series of shots and you heard shots and more shots. >> yes, not a long pause, but, yes. reporter: you must be rattled. you live on the peninsula, it's a quiet area? >> i'm having a real hard time. i want to be in tears right now. i'm having a hard time. this is my home. i've grown up here, this has never happened. anything like this has never happened here. reporter: you know they've had these shooting incidents all over the country, every time i go out, i tell people it can
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happen anywhere, even here. >> you don't want to get me started on guns right now. don't get me started. reporter: i won't get you wound up on that. do you have friends or loved ones over here. >> no, i don't. reporter: have you seen anything, any people running. >> my husband said he saw people running out with hands up. he said he saw a lot of people running with hands up. and people were talking, they heard there was a hostage situation. i don't know how true that is. reporter: did you hear any screaming or arguing or fighting before, preceding the shots? >> no. reporter: just the shots? >> just the shots. reporter: thank you very much for talking with us. i appreciate that. and try to -- yeah. ken, that's one witness account of what one person heard. a series of shots, sounded like it was coming from an automatic weapon or semiautomatic weapon but don't have confirmation on that,on. trying to get more information. trying to move closer to the
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actual scene and we'll have an update for you in the next few minutes. guys? >> jesse gary. thank you so much. interesting hearing from robin branford. she was in her backyard, she heard a series of shots that kept coming. skyfox over the scene at the youtube campus. people being frisked or patted down to make certain they're not the threat or part of the threat after reports of active shooter opened fire there at the youtube headquarters in san bruno. interesting, she mentioned she lived about five houses down. this is not a fortress. this is not a situation where you have to pass through gates to access the youtube campus. it's in a fairly open area. there is no fence around it, and with that comes challenges when it comes to security. the buildings themselves have security inside. take a look. you can see multiple buildings. homes right down the street. david: commercial buildings and residential area as well.
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san bruno and the entire peninsula has changed so much in the last year from the tech boom. you have a big tech building company that set up shop in an area that used to be mostly residential. we want to let people know that the pictures you are looking at now are tame. we're not showing live pictures of police activity at the scene so that we don't give away tactics or anything like that, and i want to mention that we did get a message from google communications. they put out a tweet and here's what it says, i'll trade verbatim. regarding youtube situation, we are coordinating with authorities and will provide official information here from google and youtube as it becomes available. it is an acknowledgment that there is a situation going on there, but it is not really adding going this, but i think everybody is trying to get their ducks in a row and find out exactly what is going on so they can share it with us, and it may be it is still unresolved, that there is still
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something we're not hearing. you heard the woman talk about a resumeort hostages, we haven't heard anything like that officially. we haven't heard anything officially about injuries, but we do have word from sf general that ambulances have been bringing patients into the hospital, to the emergency room that appear to be victims from the shooting. there's still a lot of information we don't know at this point and we're waiting to hear. >> just in this live picture on the ground. you see police, you see sheriffs, multiple law enforcement agencies, i'm certain chp is handling access to the area. keeping the people who don't need to be here away from the scene so they can let merge vehicles through. a number of unmarked vehicles were speeding to the scene as well. a lot of focus, activity concentrated here. cherry avenue at youtube headquarters where several hundred people work as of a few years ago, i wouldn't be surprised if it's closer to
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1,000 now. cheryl: monitoring our fox affiliate, ktvu in san francisco. there has been an active shooter situation reported at youtube headquarters in san bruno california. 20 minutes south of san francisco. couple of new pieces of information we've gotten in particular from our fox affiliate ktvu they are in contact with rain showers at san francisco general hospital in downtown hospital. they've had several patients transport. there's also corroborating reports from kcbs radio in california that there are several patients brought into san francisco general. shooting victims, we don't know. patients. again according to san bruno police, active shooter situation. and what we have been watching, many employees, we believe employees, outside the building. many are tweeting they were evacuated out of the building, patted down one by one. want to bring in former nypd detective pat brosnan.
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he is monitoring the pictures. what you see from a layman's standpoint, police, s.w.a.t. teams. san mateo sheriff, very calm, but at the same time, that is how you best handle an active shooter situation like this one, yes or no? pat, are you there? >> i'm sorry, you broke up for a second. what we're seeing on the television screen, not sure if you can see this where you are, seeing s.w.a.t. teams, sheriff, san bruno police, seems calm. it's not a chaotic scene, i'm wondering if that bodes well or if that is standard practice when you come upon an active shooter situation when you for the police department? >> it's difficult to speculate with precision based on the known facts. we see professionals, right? san mateo sheriff's department have the lead on this. they will be very methodical, very thoughtful, measured in their response because as you
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know, the primary concern is to identify whether the shooter had co-conspirators? is he or she a sole actor, we understand it may be a she, in fact, which is beyond rare. that's a unicorn on a rainbow if it's a female shooter, historically speaking, extremely rare. first thing is to identify if there's a co-conspirator. cheryl: you need to find out one shooter or several. one witness on the ground, take this with a grain of salt, this is just happening. jesse gary interviewing a woman who heard several shots, you know, and he was very clear, we don't know if this was automatic or semiautomatic weapon but it was several shots in a row. what does that mean to you? >> correct. well, a couple things. if you take that in conjunction with reports, eyewitness reports of a hospital taking in
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multiple patients and then you hear ear witness accounts like the woman, and i heard her account of what she called rapid fire, it's painting a very troubling picture is what it's doing. you have the casualties on the one side affirmed by eyewitnesses at the hospital and ear witness accounts of rapid fire, which could easily be correct. difficult to say for sure. cheryl: it is difficult. that's why we look to you and your expertise in these obviously stressful situations. when you've got what appears to be, this is at least 800, maybe 700 employees, trying to get the right data from the company as well. that many employees, hundreds that work at these headquarters. how difficult is it to go floor by floor? do you enter the building, yell on microphones telling people to come out on their own? how do you handle this situation, especially if there is still an active shoot or the
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premises? >> well, the very first step is to identify to the extent whether there's another actor involved or someone else involved. but then containment, contain and isolation, establishing east, west, north, south, border lines and moving in slowly and methodically with blueprints, if they're available, lot of times they are available at the entrance of the building. this is a 550,000-square-foot behemoth, an absolute monster. by all accounts, security does not appear to be at the top of their list of design for the building, and that's consistent with what i know from google in new york over at 111 eighth avenue. it's all about fitness and wellness and interaction with the workers and all kinds of full length lap pools and all kinds of other amenities which
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are cool and interesting but doesn't seem like from what i looked at that there's any indication any of type of security that's significant, at this point, but back to your question, it's a methodical, thoughtful, pragmatic, room by room, square foot by square foot assessment of the location, to assess whether there's another player involved in this. another shooter. >> and pat, want to update our viewer, fox news has confirmed san francisco general has received a number of unknown patients from the youtube campus. we are confirming that right now. but unknown number. thank you for joining us on this breaking news and your commentary. appreciate it. david: let's update you what happened. it was about 51 minutes ago, just about the top of the hour when an active shooter was reported on the campus of youtube headquarters. youtube is owned by alphabet, the google company. a big facility.
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it's a campus, if you will, but not a campus perhaps as secure as a college campus. it is a business but it's one of those areas very bucolic area south of san francisco by about 12 miles. lot of people interviewed saying we never thought anything like that could happen here. of course, we're hearing that a lot. we have with us congressman dana rohrabacher from california from the southern part of the state. we had the congressman on to talk about another issue. congressman, i'm afraid, if you don't mind, we'd like to steer to you this issue that fellow californians are going through. this is one of the areas people thought we'd never have to deal with a situation like this? >> well, you were going discuss with me sanctuary cities and the sanctuary state movement, and it fits right into what you're talking about right now. would anyone be surprised? we have a state government in california trying to prevent our law enforcement people from working with the federal law
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enforcement people to get to gather the criminal illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens, anyone listening would think, that couldn't be a criminal illegal alien, it could be. sanctuary city, my foot. we should be making sure we emphasize any illegal should be sent back, whether criminal or not, but especially criminals. david: congressman, you bring up an excellent point. right now we have a situation where there are incidences like this happening all over. let's listen into an eyewitness and come right back to you if you could stay with us. >> 30 minutes ago. reporter: mike, take me again from the beginning. the woman was out here in the parking lot and she comes into carl's jr. where you are working and what happened? >> so i came out the bathroom and she was already in the
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dining room and i was trying to find tools to help her, and i tie that around the leg to stop the blood flow. david: she was shot in the leg? which leg? >> left leg. near the calf area. reporter: was she crying? screaming? >> she was relaxed. no crying, no screaming. she was scared but not in shock. >> how did you describe her? >> a young asian lady probable flee her 20s. >> does she work at youtube? >> no idea honestly. reporter: did she have any idea why she would be targeted? >> no. she didn't even know why. >> did she explain what she saw? >> she told me she was shot, i don't think she saw the shooter, she didn't tell me a name. >> how did you spell your name. >> michael finney who works at the carl's jr. which is on the
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corner of the plaza. david: eyewitness accounting of the victim of the shooter. she didn't appear to know who did the shooting but was severely wounded in her leg, luckily people could help her. dana rohrabacher, congressman from california is with us. you brought up an excellent point, right now what law enforcement, whether it's local, state or federal, need to do is to work together in anything that we do as a country to divide those forces, we do at our own peril, no? >> that's right, and right now when this state is trying to say through and under the idea of sanctuary, that our law enforcement people can't work with the federal law enforcement officials in dealing with criminal aliens, this is a betrayal of the american people. in fact, we're already facing it in housing. there's so much frustration in california. our neighborhoods aren't safe anymore. we've got low-income housing,
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totally used up by illegals. bidding down our jobs, kids are getting a worse education and the health care is being compromised, and now we have these criminal elements, and when you have a sanctuary state, you're inviting criminals from other countries to come here. david: congressman, what is the latest on whether or not the local officials agree or with the state law that prevents them at certain occasions, perhaps ones like this from working with federal officials? >> well, in orange county, we have a revolt going among our local cities in order to tell their police and, of course, their city attorneys to ignore sb 54, which is the democrat controlled state legislature, mandating that they cannot work with the federal law enforcement when it comes to criminal illegals. so there's a revolt going on. i think it's going to sweep this state. american people understand when someone's on their side trying
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to protect them versus this state which seems to be siding with criminal aliens that have come here and not preventing us to get rid of that threat. what we're facing today, what we're reporting on, it would surprise no one if the person doing the shooting wasn't american, yes, that wouldn't surprise anyone either, but certainly wouldn't surprise them if they were here illegally and never properly vetted to have a job or enter legally. david: far too early to know who is involved in the shooting itself, we are ascertaining all the details we can. dana rohrabacher, congressman from california. thank you so much. sorry to jump with you this breaking news, we appreciate you being interviewed by us. thank you very much. cheryl? cheryl: we are looking for more details. let's bring in deirdre bolton in the newsroom. what new details? >> more context and color from people inside that building who
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were in there. people like us coming to work sitting in a meeting, heard people running, heard the rumbling, thought it was an earthquake and the one person tweeting out, after we exited the room, we didn't know what was going on. we headed towards the exit, and said he as we can all imagine if we were in this person's shoes that every single person i saw in my mind was a potential shooter. he then goes onto say someone else said that the person, the shooter presumably shot out the back doors of the building and then shot themselves. so i want to underline that this is not in an official account. this is somebody who work for youtube who obviously is now outside, as you saw the video, you had employees exiting the building with their hands up, but just this kind of personal account of being so fearful even of colleagues and not knowing what's going on. i want to reiterate as well, that google which obviously owns youtube has tweeted out
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officially in a statement, it is coordinating with authorities and will provide official information as soon as it becomes available. so cheryl, just the point of view from some of the people sequestered and lives were at risk. cheryl: deirdre, we've been following the details that we're getting from our affiliate, ktvu in the bay area, a city area manager told a reporter that things, quote, relatively secure. what that means is still to be debated. but we should say we have confirmed here at fox that an unknown number of victims, i'm not saying casualties, victims transported to san francisco general. we did get one report of the employee at carl's jr., there was a shooting victim that came into the restaurant. david: eyewitness accounts are coming in now, when we know there were several people injured. no reports of fatalities at this time but we do know there were multiple shots on the
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youtube campus, 12 miles south of san francisco, and we are going to give you all the details whether the shoot ser apprehended. going to >> and breaking news, san bruno, california police standing to an active shooter at youtube headquarters the area in lockdown. now, this is a fluid situation, new information coming in every single moment you're looking at live pictures of the scene right here in san bruno, california which is hard on the san francisco international airport if you've been to that area you know the area i'm talking about very large campus for the folks at the youtube headquarters who are being evacuated in a fairly orderly manner here as we await details, very few available right now, you should know we have no reports of fatalities at this time, but
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