and recon. lou: what would prohibit them from doing so under federal law. >> military is prevented from arresting through law enforcement. kennedy: five people wound and the female suspect is dead. it the happened at 12:46 local name san bruno. we are told there was a party at the youtube office building then shots rang out. somebody pulled a fire alarm in the building. workers had no idea there was a shooting in progress and of course chaos follows. >> i was there when this first started. s.w.a.t. pulled up, then camouflage s.w.a.t. pulled up. the lady actually came -- she

had been shot in the foot. that was about the time the police were starting to come in. >> there was a guy on the ground who had been shot and the shooter was within 20 feet from him. he was yelling, come and get me. i saw to my left, his right, there was somebody on the ground on his back with what looked like a red stain on his stomach which i am going to guess is a bullet wound. he shot that person like 10 times. did not stop. it didn't stop. it was massive. kennedy: according to police they don't know a motive. the suspect may have attacked her boyfriend. trace gallagher is with us in los angeles. reporter: you have an active shooter inside a 200,000 square foot building with 1,700 people

inside. the initial barrage of 911 calls came at 12:16. police also say the female shooter did make her way inside the building. here is the police chief. >> it was chaotic as you can imagine. we did encounter one victim with a gunshot wound toward the front of the business as we arrived. several minutes later while conducting a search of the premises officers located a second individual with a gunshot wound that appears to have been self-inflicted. we are work on confirming that. reporter: now the working theory is the shooter came to the youtube headquarters targeting a male. police have not said if he was

the intended target. others were also injured, including one person who sprained their ankle as they were running out of the building and two others who were shot and made their way to nearby businesses like a person who ran into a carl's junior restaurant next door. >> i was in the bathroom. i didn't hear the gunshots. i came out and she was in the dining room with a couple people taking care of her. i tried to get something to stop the blood flow. i got a bungee cord and tide it in a knot and tried to make it as tight as possible. reporter: her injury is not considered life-threatening. and the short who is dead. we do not know if the shooter was associated with youtube, no motive. but her victims were on campus at the time.

san bruno on the northern edge of the silicon valley. the shooting is generating huge reaction. the president tweeted, was just briefed on the shooting in san bruno, cal. thank you to our phenomenal law enforcement officers and first responders currently on the scene. apple ceo tim cook wrote we send our sympathy and support to the team at youtube and google. youtube band all gun sales in all the gun videos about how to involving guns. this appears to can domestic violence. police have not yet confirmed that but all evidence point in that direction. kennedy: i'm hearing about domestic violence. what are you hearing about the shooter?

do you know that she worked at youtube in the chief of police in and brur know didn't have an answer -- the -- the police in san bruno didn't have a motive. reporter: people keep asking, what do we know about the shooter? we know it's a female which is odd. google is having a celebration brunch and there was a female shooter involved. you think back to the san bernardino shooting two years ago. that was at a holiday employees also involving a female shooter. there is no name or idea why she was in the building except she

was look for a man. kennedy: still a lot of unanswered questions. we don't have it yet. reporter: i'm sure there is video. there will be reames of video. there are surveillance cameras all over. kennedy: i want to go to the san francisco chronicle reporter dominic picassa. what are you hearing? >> haven't the same. to give you a sense of the scene. it's close to the airport. planes are going overhead. things are winding down on the scene. the san bruno police chief indicated this moved from an active shooter situation to a long-term investigation on the part of law enforcement. google and youtube of course

are shuttling hair employees -- their employees where they need to go. and providing credit for ride hail services. apart from a barricaded area on cherry street, there is not' going on at this point. kennedy: is it the kind of city where there are tech companies that are involved with law enforcement? >> i don't know that there is a deeper relationship with law enforcement than any other business. but we heard police responded in two minutes. san bruno is a little bit south of san francisco. it's home to a lot of office

complexes like this. some folks saw people look out their windows and running into the cherry street building where we believe this all went down. there are a lot of office complexions like this. the real estate is a little bit cheaper than san francisco and they can house a lot of people. kennedy: how do they know this was potential domestic violence dispute? is it because the woman worked at youtube along with her boyfriend? did someone recognize her? >> that's something the police are not divulging. none of the youtube workers i spoke to would talk to me on the record. youtube has an intense policy of keeping a lid on things. they are orchestrating how their employees talk to the media.

people heard second and third hand this was domestic in nature. the woman who is believed to be the shooter knew who she was looking for but it's not confirmed at this point. there is no official motive or even anyone's identity. >> i'll be curious to know how that shakes out. and hot other people were who were injured. three injured. a fourth hurt their ankle escaping the building. tons of unanswered questions. the san bruno police chief addressed reporters. >> i don't have any information. i don't know that at all. we are not even close to that yet. >> what kind of weapon was used and the name of the shooter?

>> i don't know the name of the short. but it was a handgun. kennedy: where do investigators start. chad jenkins, former army ranger, welcome to the show. what do the facts tell you about the shooting so far? >> the active shooter goes against the anomaly -- is an anomaly, a female. when you look at it, overwhelmingly a single active shooter is typically a male. so it does portray there is probably some type of domestic dispute, workplace violence. but the police chief said he won't disclose that until they do a thorough investigation and can solidify that. >> you bring up some good points. seeing what happened in the parkland massacre a month and a half ago and seeing what

happened in the wake of that, and the response to that. now you have people in northern california who have to decide as you put it whether to run, hide, or fight. so as a civilian, we all think about the worse case scenario, whether our kid are in school or are in the workplace. how do you decide between those three. hugh do you assess the situation? >> you have to make that assessment. so often we go to the run, hide, fight because it's simple to remember. but initial assessment, you could have to fight your active shooter in order to save your life rather than running or hiding. it goes with the psychological response that we naturally have in a survival life or death situation which the fight,

flight or freeze. but there is that 3 to 5 second initial assessment that need to be made. that's what we do in the military and law enforcement to short be that time so we can get toibt fight quicker. as a civilian you will probably have a longer freeze moment before you can make that decision. >> it doesn't unfold the way you think it's going to. time even speed up or slows down depending on your brain's and body's response to a situation like that. how can we better prepare ourselves to assess? >> it's going through the mental preparation. that's what's being missed. we put on seat belts to go in our cars not expecting a car accident. we buy understand for floods and fires but oftentimes don't have that. until we start planning and preparing for these events, we

mentally have to go through those reps to shorten that gap of the freeze setting. you also point out the law enforcement response was two minutes. and that is nice and quick. obviously a smaller town where police were able to get to that scene very quickly. but we can't always rely on law enforcement. do you think more people should arm themselves in the workplace? >> the's going to be dependent upon the policy. i would be interested to hear what youtube's policy is on that front. i think owners and executives need to make that decision. i am of the opinion that the best defense is a good offense. but i don't think, if you don't have the training and you aren't willing to put forth the effort

to go forth with a firearm, don't bring it there because you would be a danger to yourself and everyone else. kennedy: if you don't know how to use it and are not properly trained, don't take it to work. because it could easily be used against you. we have to prepare our families, our children, and we have to be vigilant because if at some point we may have to run, hide or fight. thanks for your time. i appreciate it. good talking to you. we are going to have more on the youtube hq shooting in just a moment. plus south carolina senator tim scott and trey gowdy join me live in studio. i will ask them how the overcop the crippling divisiveness in d.c. that's coming up.

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senator dianne feinstein says my stomach sinks with yet another active shooter alert. i'm praying for the safety of everyone at youtube headquarters. dierdre: i want to bring up this tweet by the ceo of twitter, jack dorsey, saying we can't keep being reactive to this think be it won't happen at our schools and communities. he linked to the march for our lives agenda talking about funding, gun violence research. eliminating funding for the atf. and limiting firing power on the streets. these high-powered weapons go

only toward the military. there are a lot of people to point out the hypocrisy. because youtube actually ended up banning firearm demos after the parkland shooting. it remind us that silicon valley is functioning in a gray area as well. kennedy: they are also incredibly inconsistent. jack dorsey should wait for the facts before he weighs in with a bunch of talking points. so far this whole thing is weird. it doesn't follow any pattern. this wasn't an ar-15. this wasn't a 17-year-old. there is still a lot outstanding. we not was a handgun. we not was a female. other than that, all the other things he's talking about like so many other shootings.

they don't apply here, and it's very convenient for people in silicon valley to abstract and pick and choose. they don't have answers, and sometimes they are part of the issue, but we have to decide if we are going to again abstract elements of the constitution. >> you have a similar kind of stone to your point, one foot in, one foot out from the uber ceo saying on behalf of the team at uber gratitude toward the heroic first responders. another tragedy that should push us again to #gunviolence. kennedy: that's fine and this all well intentioned. and we have to point out they

live in the ultimate guilded bubble that is silicon valley that is so incredibly removed from the rest of reality. i would love toned gun violence. i would love to end hatred. but there is no legislation for doing that. there is no way we can pier into people's -- no way we can peer into people's souls to tell if they are black as night. that seems the to be an impetus for some of these violent expressions. dierdre: it does inside. there is no algorithm soul detection. on a personal note. so many of the employees at you can tube were tweeting thing that i identify with 100%. one guy said i was in a meeting,

i heard running and thought it was an quake, then realized it was an active shooter situation. i think how many times we come to our offices and think it's going to be a standard day. kennedy: we think the biggest decision of the day is going to be what should we have for hundred'. i hope all the people who are victims today are recovering. we have to continue these conversations. thank you so many. always good to talk to you. coming up, congressman tim scott and trey gowdy. the latest on the mueller investigation. hey! we didn't have a homeowners claim last year so allstate is giving us money back on our bill. well, that seems fair. we didn't use it. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back hilarious. with claim-free rewards.

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country. we are going to get to the book in just a moment. a shooting brought the two of you together. a roar hi figure tragedy. where guns tearing us apart? >> i think you could argue the gun issue is. our approach to debating this is you don't support the second amendment, and you support mass killings. how will redoing enforcing the panoply of gun laws we have. even under president obama gun prosecutions are down. if usual look for a group of laws to enforce. the question is how are you doing with the current crop of laws. kennedy: but there are a lot of laws on the books, and there are

a vast majority of gun owners in this country are trained. they are self-aware, and they are very cognizant of those laws and gun safety. it's disingenuous when we have tragedies like this to immediately spew talking points. how do we elevate the conversation? >> there is a common denominator we should pay attention to, that's the mental health of these shooters. mass shooting after mass shooting, there is a mental instability that is a part and parcel to the actual conversation we are not having. we are run to go the weapon of choice. the one thing we see consistently are suicide that follow a lot of these shootings.

we should spend more time on that common denominator. kennedy: but we also have to be careful not to paint mental illness with a broad brush. i look at the person who tried to mow down and kill as many people as he could on a bike path. i look at the austin bomber and the parkland short. these are people who are automobile to dehumanize other people. and they are so disconnected from human nature. the common band that we have, as -- the common bond that we have. that worries me. >> it's difficult to see into the soul to see how dark that soul is. you have to look at things that unify our country. i think the common demoninators are an important part of the equation. less than a month ago we passed

an expansion of the background check system in the last legislative vehicle that got through congress. without addressing the fine points weren't issue, it's not popular. kennedy: saying we don't have any background checks, that's not true. i think people want to us come together. i think people want commonality. when people seat president sitting down with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, they want something positive and constructive to come from that. you guys wrote a book. you said this was the thing that made you realize you wanted to leave your job. >> hide old job in the courtroom facts matters and the process mattered. if 1 people haven't made up their mind, winning was not the ultimate objective. the objective is not to win.

in politic unfortunately he days didn't election cycle and the objective is always to win the next election. in the pack of someone's mind is how do i become the majority leader in the senate the next election cycle. kennedy: for those of us who watch the news and analyze it and talk about it, that's what's so frustrating. it's all about a win. it's not necessarily how do we get the country moving forward? how do we win in the mid-terms? how do i stick it to the president? how do i serve my base? en that gets really frustrating. >> the reality it is having a mission first objective allows us to be a public servant. thinking about winning versus losing makes us part of the political vehicle. kennedy: did they become that

when they get to washington? >> i think there is a role for term fliments this country. washington has a corrosive environment. one of the reasons we wrote the book "unify," if you stay in mission you can make an incredible difference. i hope we have more folk like trey gowdy who want to stay in washington because they believe this country need someone who doesn't want the job but does it really well. kennedy: in benghazi hearings i remember you asking the questions, and i understand there is a role for skeptics like you. i look at people running for president now in 2020. i think they are out of their minds. i don't blame you for leaving.

but i wish there were more people with that instinct who were staying. did you seat fisa warrant application? were you able to read the actual warrant application? >> the initial warrant application all of them. kennedy: should the american people be able to set eyeballs on it like you did? >> that's a tough one. this is the most of fisa in the history our country. we are balancing people's natural desire to not know what's in it. i would probably come down in this fact pattern -- i wish none of it would have happened. i wish we weren't having a fight over fisa abuse. in my judgment it's because the fbi made missteps. if the president were to

declassify this fisa warrant, i would hope future presidents wouldn't do it. it's just bad precedent. i think the first time you do something, the dam kind of breaks and you can point and say you did tonight this fact pattern, why aren't you doing this here. bad facts made for tough decisions. 2016 was a tough year for the department of justice on self different fronts. this may be wildly unpopular, but i would probably try to persuade my fellow americans let horowitz and the new quasi special counsel look into it. not quite special counsel, but more than the doj. kennedy: he's a u.s. attorney with subpoena power. you said there are two dozen people the inspector general cannot subpoena but the u.s.

attorney would have greater subpoena power. i don't think we need to have a second special counsel. i know you feel that way. i worry this first special counsel has gone side waids. if paul manafort's business dealings are the target somehow we are off base. my worry is the surveillance tape is ripe for abuse of power. >> we need the subpoena power. it appears the utah u.s. attorney is a good choice. so i'm look forward to the process unfolding. i hope we find the facts as quickly as possible and bring more clarity to the american people. kennedy: would you guys have been friends in high school? he was an athlete and i was a nerd. neither one of us went to the library so we wouldn't have

bumped into each other. kennedy: what was your supported? >> football. kennedy: should kids as young as 8 start playing football? >> a lot of kids are getting into flag football. the nfl is change the rules to make sure we are better prepared for the future. if i had a kid, soccer is a good choice or golf. kennedy: college football is my favorite sport on earth. are you best friends in congress? >> it's more than just congress. i will ask him to preach at my funeral. and he is a remarkable human

being whether he's in politics or not and i'm going to follow his career. i hope he runs for president one day and i'll thereby to support him. we'll be friends the rest of our lives. >> this book unify was written as a point of inflection. there is a church shooting in a state like south carolina. it gets to the evolution of the human heart, the southern heart. we still have a ways to go. but we have done amazing things. kennedy: we do have our challenges as human beings. there is redemption and that is a beautiful message. thank you both so much. coming up, president trump says he wants to pull our troops out of syria. is that great news or certain disaster? -if you told me a year ago where i'd be right now...

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kennedy: president trump shocking a lot of people saying he wants to pull all u.s. troops out of syria. >> i want to get out and bring our troops back home. i want to start rebuilding our

nation. we'll have as of 3 months ago, 7 trillion dollars in the middle east over the last 17 years. we get nothing, nothing out of it. kennedy: donuts. he's absolutely right. the special envoy said troops will stay there until the mission is complete. should we pull out or keep going until completion? i will ask my battle-ready party panel jessica tarlov, anthony fisher and cabot phillips. welcome words from the present. bring them home. jessica: this is a tricky one. i feel like syria is a tricky

case party because of how horrible assad is and what he's big to do to his own people. this something that should have been dealt with during the obama administration. >> we want to hug him or kill him. love jessica: i always err towas kill him. i tend to disagree with the president not because i don't like him, but because i think our presence is needed as a stabilizing force. and there are hundreds of thousands of people who died at the hands of this man. so i would stay for that reason. kennedy: syria devolved into a hell hole. what can we do to stop it. >> there were plenty of bad

actors there. and there wasn't a good solution there. you can say that all the choices were bad and we left with something bad. hillary clinton promised a major road buildup in syria. we don't have many troops there. i don't know if a complete and total pull-out is the right thing to do with iran being complete lire entrenched there. if we do leave iran in charge there and they start creeping towards the border of israel and john bolton gets in trump's ear, that kind of concerns me. if we kept it a cool war. kennedy: we have a lot of problems in the middle east. you have got the iran deal that is a bit of a stinker and so many secret components we still

don't know about, and rains enriching themselves and preparing for hegemony, and you have the situation in syria. what do you do? >> if you turn up the volume from the trump speech you can hear john bolton screaming, no, stop. some people would be surprised to hear this rhetoric from trump. but this goes along with the america first narrative. but what is the end goal? any time you have a military presence. there needs to be a clear end goal. no one has an end goal. kennedy: john bolton may be a hawkish person, but he's also really smart. the great jettest dane injuries spending way more time there. >> john bolton has never

reckoned with the cost of occupation or exit strategies ever. we remember when he would refuse to apologize any mistakes the united states might have made policy-wise with iraq. we missed our opportunity to nation build if that was the mission. kennedy: maybe with a commander-in-chief who pivots towards let's spend the money over here instead getting zero return on investments. it will be interesting to see how they reconcile that part of this his world view. this is campaign trump. we are not the world's policemen, but you listen to him on ker north korea or iran. the john bolton hire will be interesting. >> the rhetoric had a lot to do

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kennedy: president trump is not backing down in his amazon feud. president trump: the post office is losing millions of dollars and the taxpayers are paying for that money because it delivers packages at below cost. am zone is going to have to pay much more money to the post office. kennedy: the accuracy of that claim is debatable. but how far will the president go in this battle? chris stirewalt is here. i was a little -- all day. let's talk about this. on one hand amazon found a way to get the cheapest shipping

possible by jumping through government loopholes through this communistic system that is the united states postal service. so the president should say good jock or they negotiated a great deal. either way the president should have more props in his bag. >> if the goal is to arm amazon and hurt the company, those things don't matter. their stock price for a time reflected thap that. if he's trying to punish jeff bezos and hurt amazon, that rhetoric could help. donald trump never said he's a conservative in this way, and he favors government interventions and planning as it relates to the economy, picking winners and losers as the republicans used call it. if he wants to bridle the tech

center and prop up brick and mortar retail, it's within a world view that he has outfliend his political career that that falls weren't purchase view of his world view. that's what he says. the question is, would republicans, especially republican -- conservative republicans support him to rig it against amazon that way. kennedy: i come from a place in southern indiana that used to have a sweet main street. since i was a kid my dad would point out, these businesses are dying. these towns unfortunately are dying. what becomes of them? i don't know if we can go back to that idyllic version of the small towns we grew up knowing and loving. i would like to think on some level we can if we have broad economic prosperity and people

get creative with their choices and nostalgia. i think shutting count evolution our economy, that's a much great and unrealistic task. i think the president has to possibly acknowledge that. >> i don't think he has to acknowledge didley squat. he feels grievance against amazon and it's something he thinks works for his voters or helps him in a grudge match with jeff bezos. and jeff bezos is richer than cr around, sus. and. in the end, i am going to assume in this case this will add up to nothing and it will just be rhetoric. but these become testing moments

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