tuning in. always a pleasure. i'll see you tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. on the intelligence report where i am he day. good night from new york city. kennedy: the president doubling down on the wall and border troops. should we cut the handouts out first? nancy pelosi suggests reversing tax cuts. we'll talk about why that would be crazy. did you hear what robert de niro said about conservatives? dennis miller weighs in. that dissolving caravan is creating quite a stir. and it's gig the president an opportunity to build a symbolic wall of national guard troops on our southern border. now we are caught up equitabling about a thousand travelers

caught up between activism and authoritarian i am. let's start with where these wanderer started, mostly central america and why they left. central america is overrun with corrupt black marketers cutting off their supply chain is fruitless and deadly. so they stay in power and help those people flee to america's once open arms. it's costlier to fuel the entitlement state that props up asylum seekers. democrats want both, republicans want neither and an all or nothing approach either way is a losing proposition. we have to constantly ask, what

is the function of our government? people should be preto move about the world. but not when they are infringing on your freedom by zapping resources that should never have been under the control of government. letting them in or keeping them out. we'll get into all of it. i'm kennedy. the president said he want to send 2,000 to 4,000 national guard troops to the border. shouldn't we first stop the handouts that some illegal immigrant take advantage of once they get here? joining me, tim carney.

obviously the president has put this brand of immigration on the front page. what do you make of his west virginia con tab today? >> i think sending the national guard down to the border reeks of all the stunts i have seen politicians do over the years. it doesn't involve an actual reform of the broken system which lead to the problem that's illegal immigration and broadly dysfunctional immigration system. kennedy: who you let in, who you keep out, how you do it. there are so many loopholes and so many way throughs because government has proven its inability to properly vet people. and it's really bad at deciding winners and losers by coming up with things like merit-based

immigration. i don't know how much that adds to the best kind of of people who could possibly be here. >> one of the reasons donald trump had this unique appeal. both the elites of the democratic party and democratic party believed in open borders. a liberal immigration policy. but usually the talking points and the messaging came from the u.s. chamber of commerce and business tries who wanted cheap labor. it wasn't just open the borders and let people in. it was guest worker programs. if you get fired, then you get sent home. that's not a free market in labor. we have a hong pong of a system where you can bring -- a hodgepodge of a system. kennedy: it's a system that

doesn't know what it is and doesn't know what it wants. >> one of the things trump tapped into that is true, saying if we don't have a border, we don't have a country. if we don't control who comes in we are not practicing self-determination. kennedy: here is my problem with that. it's one thing to say the system is broken and people are coming here illegally because there are flaws in the system. it take too long in you go the legal route. it's a lot easier to bust your ass and come through the southern border. maybe that's not fine. but also saying we are going to have this immigration prohibition doesn't figure anything either. that creates more i will hill immigration the same -- more illegal immigration. it's the same way shutting down begun sales and a ban on assault weapons won't do anything about

hatred and gun violence. >> i agree. there is a pressure equilibrium between how many team want to come in and how many we let in. there are 7 billion people in the world. 300 million are here. i will bet half of them want to come in here. we have a situation where you can't let in everyone who wants to come in. kennedy: you also have to ask what is the incentive. they want to come here and work because they want their children to have a better life and have the opportunity to go to school or do they want free stuff? maybe they want religious freedom. i don't have a problem with people coming over who want to start businesses and want to work. we can't have open immigration and open entitlement state. i think people should be able to travel and work where they want.

you are not entitled to free stuff from a government. >> the wrinkle to that is the compromise position i hear in washington is let ebb in but don't let the immigrants get the same welfare everybody else gets. i think that's also disastrous because then you are creating a cast system. immigrants, including illegals pay taxes. to say they can't get the same benefits you and i are getting would be creating a terrible society with two didn't classes. an original sin is the safety net that's handing it out not just to the poor and needy, but to everybody. i will say there is no easy compromise solution on this. kennedy: people are good, governments are bad at doing most of things. governments should get the hell

out of the way and that includes with immigration. tim carney, i love your wisdom. thank you for stopping by. president trump went on a tax cut tear today. >> for 40 years they couldn't pats anything and they didn't know why. i said why is it so hard to pass tax cuts. it turns out it wasn't that hard. being a person who has on the been doing this for 2 1/years, i said don't use the word reform. use the word tax cut. when you talk about reform, your taxes could go up. and your taxes went down a lot. kennedy: at a town hall nancy pelosi said her party will work to repeal the entire gop tax plan if they win control of congress in the mid-term. saying quote it's not about chipping away at this piece or

that piece it's about a comprehensive look at what our tax policy should be for the future. is nancy out of her mind? let me ask my number-crunching party panel. katie pavlich is here. and the host of "you are welcome." , and michael malice * is here. and guy benson. i think the on thing republicans are going to get done. this tax plan, it feels most of people are happy with it. do you believe nancy pelosi when she says democrats if they win back the house will take the thing out by the root? >> i think they might try, but they might run into problems. if you uproot the republican tack law that no democrats voted for by the way, that would mean massive tax increases on 9 other

* increases in the country, including almost everyone in the middle class. she doesn't want to use the word repeal. the deputy leader of the dnc keith ellison was asked directly will you repeal the tax law and he was dancing around and didn't want to answer the question. if they say yes or no they are admitting there are middle class tax cuts which they denied deceit any during the entire debate over it. kennedy: people are looking at their paychecks saying i make more money. i want to be relationship like nancy pelosi. >> bee repeal equals an increase in taxes on the middle class and families.

so what do we do here? what do we dough with taxes to get the economy growing even further? >> i think it's interesting you didn't play a clip from nancy pelosi. she has gone the so inarticulate sounds like a blender trying to talk. i think it will be have much they will try to nationalize trump, he's not normal. it will work to a lot of point. a lot of my republican friends are being ostriches. if you look at what happened over the weekend in scott walker's state. these are trending blue. historically the mid-terms go against the president. he's an all naight and divisive president. kennedy: i think people love their money more than they hate the president. >> the idea nancy pelosi is

still running with this after all the backlash with her crumbs comment, today she is saying if we take back the majority we'll make sure people's pay checks are less than they are now. they are talking to their accountants and the accountants are telling them how much they are going to save this year, and it's thousands of dollars for people. today at the town hall a woman broke down in tears talking about how impactful the tax reform bill has been for her family. if nancy pelosi wants to continue to tow the line saying republicans are elitists. go for it, nancy. but i think people are seeing the tanningibility results and they are paying attention. -- tangible results. and they are paying attention. >> is the economy in good shape

or not. kennedy: people know when their bottom line is bolstered. and that actually might breed complacency in some voters. the president today reaffirmed his confidence in embattled epa chief scott price telling reporters he has done a fantastic job. the deputy press secretary had harsher words about the secretary. he said i can't speak to the future of scott pruitt. i can just talk about where we are now. that is that the white house is aware of these reports. what about this? pruitt is said to have scored a sweetheart deal on a lobbyist-owned condo, and gave two of his employees significant

raises without permission from the white house. and he spent your tax dollars on charter flights. should pru it stay or go -- should pruitt stay or go. >> when this started brewing. i thought this is an effective conservative that is implementing an agenda that the democrats are horrified about. but as we learn more about some of the details of numerous allegations, there is something everything a stench that's starting to waft. it's too swampy. even if i like some of the things he's doing as a matter of policy, we shouldn't dismiss what may be corruption. kennedy: it seems like he's putting chemical lobbyists in charge of chemical regulations. i love that he hates the epa.

and i appreciate that he puts people in charge entire agencies that they despise. >> and they have no clue about. betsy devos is great in the department of education because she is opposed to it. he might as well put up the most of extreme people he can find. but they have a long road to hoe. you have hogan hugly say not on what he did on the quotes you did. you have president trump say i think he's a great guy. kennedy: despite his haggling on the apprentice, i don't think he like firing people.

>> he never fires them directly. >> you the president's alerts for his tweets. >> you are tweeting and firing people without telling them? >> it, much dirtier when you are face to face and you have to interact with them. >> this is not a corporate look. >> i did it for you. kennedy: michael malice -- we have breaking news on the tariff battle with china. plus do you support president

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kennedy: president trump officially lost the dirty grandpa vote. robert de niro says things in our country are so bad, and it comes from trump. he went on to say it's beyond trying to see another person's point of view. colorado democratic governor raised him one and told the political podcast quote we are seeing a divide in this country that's as significant as when we had slave states and anti-slavery states. the god may be guilty of a little bit of hyperbole. let me ask the man who wants to bring us all together. comedian dennis miller. >> how are you, kennedy?

i was just going to say, hickenlooper exhibiting an adherence to the talking points. showing no attempt at constructive interpretation. there are people who believe when they say that, i think are you kidding me? this is nowhere near bull connor days. but some people see racism and you can't equate the what it was then with the wait is now. kennedy: i rinse to someone like robert de niro. he says he's even sconsd in such

a formaldehyde bubility that he doesn't even want to hear someone's points of view if it's different from his own. >> when i hear robert de niro speak on these issues i turn into travis pickle. are you talking to me? when i'm watching that woman in west virginia talk about how the tax return has aloud her to buy an archery set for her kid so he can be on the archery team. i can't believe he doesn't hear the absolute irony of that. i guess de niro hates trump. and if you don't shade trump, he hates you. as an artist, that is a really bad look. kennedy: here is someone who is

supposed to through osmosis inhabit the skin much other people and feel their emotions and understand the human conditions. hugh caconditions. how can you do that if you are so pie opennic. >> i have seen perform answers he has give where you shake your head. saying that's so per tbeact's doing, i feel like a invoice. it doesn't make them bad people or hicks. the mistake hollywood makes is they always back people who are comped. now they have turned on people who have to get up out of their chair and go to the mall to see

their films. artistic expression should be all encompassing. if somebody disagrees with you, they are not evil. but the curtain comes down on the left. the people in north carolina say they want to keep the status quo with bathrooms. they are not bad people. they all want to go to havana, cuba, but they don't want to connect through charlotte, north carolina anymore. let people believe what they want to believe. we don't all have to be on the same page. kennedy: a basic lack of curiosity. you don't have to agree with or condone what someone says or believes in order to try and understand where they are coming from. i think that basic curiosity, when you lose that, you lose decency and you lose touch with

other human beings, and the line that separates life and death, not too to get too dramatic, that's what's so easily crossed when someone can't get enough views on their youtube page. >> i wrote something down in the hickenlooper article. this quote amazed me. if you told george orwell this quote. he said when i meet with people i disagree with, i want to listen aggressively and ask questions. i was thinking, do you even hear that? what about you listen passively and concede sometimes there are good people who do not shoot their goodness through the prism of being hick or lubriun.

kelly: he needs to mellow his voice. >> the hickenlooper theory. he needs to lighten up. kennedy: dennis miller, thank you for being here. i always appreciate being here with you. if you are in spokane, washington, you have got to check out dennis. he he'll be at the fox theater. you may have noticed the stock market has been nuts the last few weeks. how can you protect your hard-earned wad. you can start by sending me a check. scott martin helps us out. a beginner's

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kennedy: president trump may be escalating the pending trade war with china. the president is considering an extra $100 billion in tariffs. what will that do to the market? we have seen ups and downs all week long. volatility is the key as president trump and china face off. and there is the standoff over amazon.

how can you protect your dough. scott martin is here. what do we do here, scott? i want your money to make money for my money. how do we do it? >> even though inside i'm smiling, inside i'm crying. we already had to volatility overnight because of the new tariff news. it's important to know what you own in times like these. buy companies that you trust that maybe you work with. if you buy stuff on amazon and you know how they operate. that's a good reason to buy them. if you like that airliner you fly buy things you know and things you are familiar with. don't go chasing crazy ideas you may read about in the paper or

read about on the internet. buy stuff you are familiar with. kennedy: it is a form of gambling in a sense, and everyone wants to ride the unicorn. can you blame them? i understand we are going through a volatile period. in the meantime, are you telling people to shift to like brazilian utilities? >> i stay at home because things are safer and they are more regulated and easy to track. but i think it's going to get worse. i think it's going to get more bumpy. i think china will throw more sand back at us in the sandbox. my advice to you at home, one of the things i read in the last few days and weeks, in this market volatility turn a blind eye. don't look at your portfolio.

kennedy: easier said than done. if you are close to retirement. >> knowing how you feel about it, kennedy. if you see the market drop a couple hundred points tomorrow and you see stocks or mutual funds drop by a couple% and it bothers you, you probably shouldn't own that stuff. wait for the market to calm down and then get back in. kennedy: thank you, i feel richer already. >> it was free. you can pay me in meatballs. kennedy: the virginia tech student organization condemning conservative speakers.

the student government claims it would leave marginalized communities feeling unsafe. isn't there a time when kid went to college to learn about free speech and different opinions? let me talk to people who are no strangers to campus backlashes. they have all seen campus riots. you have written an entire book on this. >> just today, kevin williamson formerly of national review was hired by the atlantic and fired by the atlantic because of some thought crimes he had, he had opinions that are offensive to many people which i happen to disagree with. this is what they fired him to do. there was a liberal outrage mob and now he's out. people are inculcated into the

mentality that this is okay, and words are tantamount to violence. this unsafe thing is so orwellian and insaidous. -- insidious. you can justify violence to stop words. calling a rickture from somebody like charlie kirk a discriminatory incident on campus waters down the real definition of discrimination and racism and actual things that make people feel physically you can safe. in some cases it seems like it keeps getting worse. >> it's getting worse. this has been the message for 100 years. the book how the soviets won the

cold war, they don't send everyone to prison. all you have to do is pick up one person at a time. it's things like this. you make charlie a target. others follow suit and you have a complete monopoly on thought and what people can say and do. there is a backlash. kennedy: but they want to activate a mob. mobs start in classrooms and they grow. all of a sudden berkeley is spending $600,000 on security because somebody like ben shapiro or milo come to campus. >> it used to be that i could go to a college campus and it was

normal not to have security. but now security is provided because of the mob mentality we are seeing. it comes to a head on college campuses, by the starts in kindergarten with teachers with a leftist ideology indoctrinating children. every single year of their life until they get to college, anybody you disagree with you have to squash their speech because they are bad people you don't want to be friends with. kennedy: if they say something you don't agree with, you are unsafe. >> the solution to this is more conservatives continuing to go on campus. when they make proclamations to say conservative speeches on campus are discriminatory events. i meet students all the time who disagree with me who come to these speeches.

kennedy: guy, michael and katie, thank you for being here. coming up. what started the russia investigation? one lawmaker taking on the fbi to find out. jason chaffetz has details on the inside scoop. he'll be here next.

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kennedy: how did the russia investigation begin? devin nunes just picked a fight with the fbi and doj to find out. he's threatening legal action if he doesn't sift by april 11. does that mean we'll get some answers. good evening to you. we were on the five, now we are here talking about this memo that launched the investigation. what do you think is inside of it? >> when you have serious people like devin anyone's and trey gowdy look at this file for a long time. every time they want to see interesting parts of it, they are redacted. in order for the fbi to start

any investigation there always two-page or 1 and a half page sheet they fill out. they will not allow the senior-most of people on the intelligence committee to look at it. trey gowdy has gone over there twice to look at it than is an entire paragraph that is blacked out. kennedy: obviously trey gowdy has higher security clearance than most of civilians in this country. can he have christopher wray arrested? >> what i would like to see, i think they should bring up the attorney general and the director of the fbi, raise their hand and try to answer this question. what else it you think congress should not look at. when the american people find,

their representatives get to look at these things. kennedy: let us sight of and figure out why you are using resources to go after this administration. there is something there? is our country in jeopardy? are we on the brink of a constitutional crisis? if so, then tell us about it. we deserve to know. >> my experience is most of of these things they don't want you to see are terribly embarrassing or they expose something within the deep state. ken is that what it is, just trying to ensconce themselves. >> the irs scandal, the benghazi situation, the collusion supposed stuff. never do you get to where the administration allows the to you see 100% of the documents. they will say we have given you thousands of this or thousands

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kennedy: for years the nypd has been urging new yorkers to speak up if they see anything strange or unusual. with that i would like to point out the mets won three games in a row. if you see something, say something. this is the "topical storm." topic number one. we begin in augusta, georgia where jack nicklaus let his grandson tee off at the masters. watch this. >> look at that swing.

no way. i love the little white jumpsuit. 15-year-old gary nicklaus keeps his end of the bargain. drills a hole in one. the internet was stunned by the incredible shot but they shouldn't be, gary's grandad is the masters all-time win. was ted cruz born on another planet? the short answer is we don't know. the senator was doing a q and a when a woman told him to take a dna test to prove he's human. when you google senator dna

test, every story is about elizabeth warren. but unlike dizzy lizzy, ted never claimed to be something he's not unless you count the time he claimed to be a good presidential candidate. though he did last longer than jeb bush. but most of goldfish last longer than jeb did. the senator refused to answer the woman base said he wasn't going to engage in insults. at that point he got in his vehicle and left. his vehicle is a jarring sight to the people in texas baits was the only thing on the road that didn't have a gun rack. the cast of dancing with the stars has been announced and the lineup includes some of the

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